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Speaker 1: He is drink chess, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary

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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip pop pioneer put up as d

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Speaker 2: some of the biggest players you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 1: Moy Days New Year C's It's time for drink Champions.

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Speaker 1: Drink up mother mother? Would it good? Be hoping? Wa supid?

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Speaker 1: This is your boy in O R What up? It's

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Speaker 3: This mid tap crazy war YEA make something.

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Speaker 1: And right now I want to tell you arguably this

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Speaker 1: of all time. The man can make anything. He can

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Speaker 1: produce movies, make scores. He can produce your producers, producer, producer,

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Speaker 1: the producers, the other producer. They look up to him.

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Speaker 1: He has put together one of the most legendary groups

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Speaker 1: never one before and there will never be another one after.

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Speaker 1: They are the alpha and Omega as a person that

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, this is his show, regardless

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Speaker 1: what he's talking about, talking about Bobby, motherfucking digital Chris raheem,

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Speaker 1: motherfucking the rhythm. I ain't gonna lie to you. We've

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I went. I was in Paris

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Speaker 1: and I tried to like be like incog Negro right

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Speaker 1: That's arguably the best show, not hip hop show, the

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Speaker 1: just recognizing me. I was like, not tell you, motherfucker,

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Speaker 3: So what I didn't know was y'all shared the stage.

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Speaker 1: It really it's really a Wu Tang nas showna's Wu

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Speaker 3: And now you guys are going into the new tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the new tour, which we called the Final Chamber,

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Speaker 1: You know, like all the cases that my WHU brothers

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00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: had is because being young, right, and so you don't

429
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: know that. Yo, you knock this dude out, you starmped

430
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: this dude out. That could stop your whole career. That's

431
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: because your physical aggression. Yeah, so we took advice from him.

432
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: But wait, hold up, but how does it get through

433
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 3: to you guys in that moment?

434
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: No, no, because while I still negotiated, he had he

435
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: had a studio. It's okay, you know what, pay us

436
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: back in studio time. So we had to. So we

437
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: found the we call it a diplomatic solution, which was

438
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: pay us back in studio and they did the song

439
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: method Man that became the next single was because it

440
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: was done in that scene in that studio. We went there,

441
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: and it sounds a little better than protecting that sonically

442
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: because I'm now in a real studio with a little

443
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: SSL and all that. So it had it, had it,

444
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: so it was explains a lot. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

445
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: so so so so that was So that was a solution.

446
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: But doing business with him was like it almost made

447
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: me say like fuck the fuck your game, you know

448
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, because it's like I didn't, I don't.

449
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: I didn't expect somebody to do my package like that,

450
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like your package to

451
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: give him a package you bunk bunk bunk. So so

452
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that to happen. You know that, none

453
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: of us, they're me power, you know, divine at the time,

454
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: move all of us. But the solution was a show

455
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: diplomat solution, right yeah, So Marsko Selly was I like

456
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: what you went with it? You said cred but you

457
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: once you put that, trying to put the yeah take

458
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: a shot, it can't you can't take a shot. And

459
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: we can't take let's gip him for for for for

460
00:24:51,560 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: the for the game, expensive album and nice. So this

461
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: to me is genius as well. Right, how does this happen?

462
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Because this guy step to you and say, I want

463
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: to will they created it? Okay? Yeah, I'm asking you know.

464
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, So we talked about this a lot already.

465
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: So I'm okay, I want to hit. I got so

466
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: much time with you. Okay, let's go.

467
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: Let's go.

468
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: I will say this though about it. Right. It was

469
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: an idea that one of my students, and you know,

470
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of germinated, right, and it was kind of cohesive

471
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: with the idea I had, which was, to me, music

472
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: is art. It should be treated as such. Right. At

473
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: this time, music was being devalued, right, right, So it's like,

474
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: now we got to find a way to put value

475
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: back into it. And people mostly value what they can't have,

476
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: all right, Sorry, then they can't have this, right, only one.

477
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: We're going to make one copy and it's gonna you

478
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: gotta go to a museum to hear it, you know

479
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. That was the ambition of it. Uh

480
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: So we started to listen and and and the funny

481
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: thing is different millionaires and even billionaires was acting like

482
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: they was going to buy it, you know what I mean.

483
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: It was like it was because that's the auction business,

484
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Southerby's and Padaway, that's what they do, right. But then

485
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: I met this kid. He was still a kid and

486
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't famous yet, Marsh Grelly. Maybe at the time

487
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: he was probably worth a couple of hundred mil so

488
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: he was really a baby compared to the other bidders. Okay, okay,

489
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: all the bidders had bills. But he had came to

490
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: the little listening and he heard it. He heard like

491
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: a little twelve minutes and he was like, yo, whatever

492
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: he heard. He needs that album. He needs the Enigma

493
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: time code machine exactly right in the in the turning

494
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: papers and this is awesome historical ship. Wait, the Enigma

495
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with listen that's from World War Two. Yeah,

496
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: he's getting the last one they got, like the one

497
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: that's the last living listener. He's getting that. He's getting

498
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: the tuning papers of the guy who designed this ship.

499
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: This is the guy who made the first computer arguably,

500
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: and the Wu Tang album. He's all three of these ships.

501
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: And so I told her, I said, yo, you know

502
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: this album is like, you know, all albums like our babies,

503
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So you got to be

504
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: treating this thing with the highest respect. And that's when

505
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: he told me, I'm gonna do all that and when

506
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: you get all three of these things, he said, he's

507
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: going to become like a powerful man in the world. Right.

508
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, wait, you know what I mean,

509
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Bung bung. And I didn't hear about the other things. No, no,

510
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: And so he does it right, and I kinda I

511
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: kind of make the make the deal with him. Right

512
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: then I'm home my wife and ship we chilling. She

513
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: knows about it and all that. And then he's on

514
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: the news and she's like, uh, maybe isn't that the

515
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: guy that's that's uh that you made the deal with

516
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: the guy disclosure or it wasn't it was also NBA.

517
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're still working out the deal, you know,

518
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: all the paperwork.

519
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: Ship.

520
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: But then he shows on TV as the evil lest

521
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: Man Alive. He was in medication.

522
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so but I'm like, oh, ship boom, but aldi

523
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: shook hands with him, already made a deal. So so

524
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: I could you know, your world is your bond, you

525
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you know with it. But

526
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: I did say this to him. I said, Bro, you

527
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: got a lot of bash it on you. I would

528
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: advise that you take this whole album and do something good.

529
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: I said, maybe just give it to the people. Wow,

530
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what to do. I said, it's

531
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: a chance for you to do good. He smiled at

532
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: me and doubled down on bad ship. He went, he

533
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: caught be for ghost faces and everything that great, he

534
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: went in anyway, Yeah, yeah, but it is. It is

535
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: on record right now. The album when it was resold,

536
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: it was resold for over four million. He bought it

537
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: for two resold it for over four or the government

538
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: took it. Then they auctioned it all. So it's it's

539
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: one of those it's like it appreciates like a house

540
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: or some shit. It's like it gets more and more

541
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: valuable over time. And it and it didn't make the

542
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: Guinness World Records as the most expensive single album in

543
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: the history. You know what I mean? He said to

544
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: it earlier, he said, give it to the people. Is

545
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: that an option in the contract that they could actually

546
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: give it. You could give it.

547
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 4: You can't sell it, can't sell it. But the government

548
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 4: didn't make that contract with you so they could auction it. Well,

549
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: the government, you know, they know because they got it

550
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: from him and then they were able to it.

551
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: They can only auction it as a single unit, like

552
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: a painting. It's almost like an n f T. That's

553
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: what That's what I thought. I was the first NFT.

554
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: I was will to say, Yeah, I say that. Yeah,

555
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: you can say, like the first n f T. It's like,

556
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: even if somebody's playing you gotta it's only one moment,

557
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Lisa yo, right, you know what I mean, And that's

558
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I mean, you got people that

559
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: got the T shirt, but the real more release of

560
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: that is like this more like what I'm going to

561
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: Monica on Sunday, Monica. How many people? Because the documentary, right,

562
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: everybody was mad as your brother and then I got

563
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: to see brothers kicking at wakec On's weather. Okay, so

564
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: like that that was the part of the documentary. Obviously,

565
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm outside of looking in. That was the

566
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: part like because was known to keep family business in family.

567
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: This is the first time everybody coming out. It's the

568
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen that. But then I see

569
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: so for me as a person, that's like like, you know,

570
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: I got to see that. It's it's love there. Of course,

571
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: all that Showtime documentary, it looked different, looked at contentious.

572
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: What's your explanation for that? For the for the way

573
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: it looks on the documentary. Yeah, okay, we got the

574
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Japanese cups from the Japanese look somewhere Japanese try to

575
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: redeal you got so. One other thing was saki. Okay,

576
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: if you're drinking heaven sake, which is actually a saki

577
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: that's polished. The rice was polished fine for this, like

578
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: it's all about how you polish the ris to get

579
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: the best fermentation. And then also a French wine master

580
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: finished this all that's why it's so smooth. But this

581
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: one you can't pour your own saki. Yes, so I

582
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: need you to pour miss that's right. Never okay, don't

583
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: do that.

584
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: Let me take this shot.

585
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Over that. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, Bomber, Yeah, I'm sorry

586
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: if I'm doing all the rule. See like she's like

587
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: this guy, no, we need to learn, No, we need

588
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: to learn, you know. So when we have motherfucker Jackie

589
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: Chan come here together, I turned together, said Yo Rizzard

590
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: told us motherfuckers exactly I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, so real quick.

591
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: In the Showtime documentary, it was talking about how some

592
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: of the brothers was angry with Divine based on business, right,

593
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: and every artist may have been through this, and you're

594
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: an artist or you may be able to play to this.

595
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: So the argument with the with the Vine was saying

596
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: the ghost face was y'all of coach said, if I

597
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: make a million dollars, how much you get? Right? I

598
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: think Divine said, you know, twenty percent, ten twenty maybe

599
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: ten percent because we kept we kept that modest. Most

600
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: managers take twenty percent of your money, right, your agent

601
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: takes ten percent. Right. If you make an m thirty

602
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: percent is gone right, right, and go say I fucked that.

603
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I want my whole ill. So what happens is the

604
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: artists don't realize that your art definitely creates value. But

605
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: it's music business, right, and so the business side has

606
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: to go and what these that. So if an artist

607
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: is only if a manager's only getting ten percent, you

608
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you're getting nine hundred down right.

609
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: You may want your whole joint. But it's like yo, nah,

610
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: this is business. And so when you're in that business

611
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: position in the way you're gonna you look almost you

612
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: look down upon in a way, right because the artist

613
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: is thinking, like yo, I signed for a million dollars,

614
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: where's my million? It's like nah, yo, And to forget

615
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: what the manager taking with the agent takeing. The lawyers too,

616
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: the lawyer don't man my man Uncle Sam, and I

617
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: ain't talking about Sam Jackson. You know they're coming in

618
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: like right down. So the Vine has always been the

619
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: business savvy one of us. So when he got out

620
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: of the system, right, he got a job at the

621
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: World Trade Center cleaning carpets. But he was reading all

622
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: that shit, you know what I mean. So, but he

623
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: was studying all that shit. So he was doing quick books.

624
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: I'm making beats on my computer. He's doing the counting shit.

625
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: He's learning and managing shit, you know what I mean.

626
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: And his deal if you go back and you check,

627
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not just bigging him up because he's my brother.

628
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: But if you go back and you checked, you know

629
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: every company besides WU Tank Production, So WHU Tank Production?

630
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I started at myself personally took my last ten g's.

631
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: I had a choice. Let me I say this with you.

632
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: I had a choice, bro me and Tony had twenty

633
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, right, and the plan was to go hook

634
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: up with my uncle Joe and get a break. I

635
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: just knew Uncle Joe wasn't good from there thought out

636
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: what you said.

637
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: It's a way, he say.

638
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe told my pops that's my post, my brother,

639
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: my pop's first cousin. So we so we go down

640
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: and we we we see uncle Joe. But at the

641
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: same time, I got a seed in the oven. I

642
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: got nalls of self that's clear now because I'm not

643
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: smoking a drink, and so my brain waves are super clear.

644
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: And we down and I'm not a vegan knocked out

645
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: like seventeen chicken wings that you know what I mean.

646
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm going there and it's like and we're talking about it.

647
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: It's like you're boom, we'll get it to North Carolina.

648
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: I'll get it from North Khaki and bring it to

649
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: the package eh. But on that trip, Yo, I decided

650
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: to leave without it. M hmm. Came back to New

651
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: York empty handed. You had the money, right, and it

652
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: told Tony like, nah, I'm done. I'm done negative, right,

653
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: Because every time we did something negative, something went wrong.

654
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: Somebody got locked up, somebody got shot or you gotta

655
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: you gotta get your biscuit, and it says negative breeze negative,

656
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: and the Bible with says for every negative action you do,

657
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: I give you one in return, he says, but for

658
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: every positive action you do, I multiplied you by ten.

659
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, I gave ghost his hat,

660
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: took my half, and I actually told him, I said, yo, bro,

661
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: love you go on with your life man, because ghosts

662
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: is so real that the way we was going, he

663
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: would have jumped in front of the bullet, you know

664
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I was like, nah, God, I

665
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: appreciate everything, but go ahead. I gotta figure something outside.

666
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: And I just walked. I walked for days and days

667
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: and days. People thought I was going crazy a little bit,

668
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: but I was form a lady and I realized what

669
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: I had to do it. I'm gonna give a shout

670
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: out to mister James Smith. He's the father of Mel Kwan.

671
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: Mel Kwan was my first manager. I'm giving him a

672
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: shout out because I sued to go to his crib

673
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: and he believed in his son, mel Chwan. So he

674
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: started a record label called Your Maker Records, and that's

675
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: where he had a group called the divine force on it.

676
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: So I boring all of them right from my pink houses.

677
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: But I always went to his house because I was

678
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: signed as an artist. I used to fall three hundred

679
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: dollars for the rent. I stopped scrambling and all that

680
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: at this time, right, but he always had boxes of

681
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: records stored in his crib, and I realized that the

682
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: record company was his house, the Brownstone was the label.

683
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: So I took my tenzis and went and sat down

684
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: with him, played a few games of chests, and said,

685
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: I want to start a company. He said, Yo, you

686
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: go talk to mister Warren. Mister Warren to help you.

687
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: I went to talk to mister Bill Warren. We formed

688
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: the Wu Tang Production. I put the money in the lawyer,

689
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: put the money in the bank, formed the company, formed contracts,

690
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: and then took this idea and stepped to my brothers like, Yo,

691
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: this is what I this is the plan. So before

692
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: you form the company, you didn't have to fully signed

693
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: to you No, so you had to go to them

694
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: and convist them that, yeah, that's I had a former company.

695
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: And then they're not gonna say convinced my brothers, I

696
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: would say that advise my brothers gonna go anywhere, whether

697
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: I caught you or not. Yeah, okay, but let's go together,

698
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So look, by myself at

699
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: the end of the day, no disrespect to nobody. And

700
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm a guaranteed gold artist, right, I got gold, Bobby,

701
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: there's your those gold grave daggers with my Wu Tang brother,

702
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm multi platinum, right exactly. You know what I mean?

703
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: So you Yeah, by myself, I'm a but together the

704
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: community eats. Right. Look how many families eat off of

705
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: this record tree?

706
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: Yo?

707
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I want to share

708
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: that share that peace with you, because what was the

709
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: date that you that you made the company? Like around

710
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: what year? This is probably the company's ninety two, right,

711
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: And then protecting that comes out. I make the company first,

712
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: and then after the company, uh started gearing up equipment.

713
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: When got powered to join me help gear up equipment.

714
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Gave him a divine control of management. I told him,

715
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: nobody takes nobody's publishing. Publishing always stayed with the artists.

716
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I read the book, you know what I mean, And yeah,

717
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and and and and built it. So the point I

718
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: was saying by saying that with you is that the

719
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: idea to do wrong was trump by the idea to

720
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: do right, and then the idea to do right multiplied

721
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: my entire family, my entire team, and to this day.

722
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Right you think about the Wu Tang series, right, yeah,

723
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: you know I've taken Now, I got ten new young

724
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: men actors, some of them is their first gig, right,

725
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: turning them to millionaires. That's a just to remind DMX

726
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: on the show, right And DMX So I said something

727
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: to him, and DMX said, I stopped this in rack

728
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: rack rappers And I said, oh yeah, watch and he said,

729
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: because every one rapper can feed sixteen families. So let's

730
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: think about that. Think about what I experience, right right,

731
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: right right? You funded a whole, the whole, at least Connecticut.

732
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: You argue that Wu Tang had its own economy. You

733
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: created an economy that was Wu Tang. No, that's crazy.

734
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: So let me tell you a story that's that's funny. Right.

735
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: I met you one time at the Woo store. I

736
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: came to an opening, and then I think one time

737
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: in Mystic studios and that right, But then one time

738
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: we was in a hip factory studio. This is our

739
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: fire getting hot. I finally like hot, like I was

740
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: all one of the times I met you, I was

741
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: coming up. I'm finally hot. I'm finally hot. Like it's

742
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: like the NR albums. I'm steping, I pull I pull up.

743
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: You already in You're already I think you would leave it.

744
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't tell. But it was like fifteen

745
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: of y'all and I can tell you was zooted out

746
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: your mind. I look, but this is Missa right. He's like,

747
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: but I gotta be cool about it. I gotta be cool.

748
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: But I'm still this is Middler. So you said to me,

749
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: you said to me. He's like, I made the beat

750
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: exactly how you wanted it. And I was like, he said,

751
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: exactly how you told me to do it. I made

752
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: it and I'm like, world up.

753
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 5: But it wasn't you.

754
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: I wantn't make it.

755
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: With me.

756
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: But he was like, if you want to hear it,

757
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I came upstairs. You played me

758
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: the most amazing BF the fuck I had. Track Master

759
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: Jones said, Yo, Nord, give me one second, and I

760
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: went outside to get one second, and it was crazy

761
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: about that crazy tone introduced me to fifty cent Wow

762
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: as I turned around. Your man, that's crazy. I got

763
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: to beat man. That's crazy. You don't remember, you know, yo,

764
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that I tell that story all the time because so crazy.

765
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: You know here back in those days, I just saw

766
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: the sort of gizzl will always be filming us, right,

767
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, he was going to let's let's take a

768
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: shot for that beat. Okay, shot that we never heard

769
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: of it? Hey, yo, bro, Yeah, I realized this is

770
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: really good though, by the way, hold on, hold on

771
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: because now because you know, first I was, you know,

772
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna like it, whether because because you know

773
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like that, no matter what I want

774
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: to believe, No, no, no, no, I was with the program.

775
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: But this is actually good. No, no, this is this

776
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: is This is especially if you drinking in the daytime.

777
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Bright you could drink this at lunch and still go

778
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: back to the office because you said, this is an

779
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: upper exactly. We're not getting socky face here, okay, yeah,

780
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: we getting like the big back. What's up with the

781
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: V one? Like I mean, you know what I'm saying,

782
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: We got die a little bit, you know, to live

783
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: a little bit. Sometimes you got die a little bit.

784
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: You see. Great, see great, hairs, great hairs, great hairs,

785
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: like colonists, Okay, colonists trying to get this you're like

786
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: a colonists. But you know what, you probably as an artist, right,

787
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: and your artist suggested, right. But I think, like, I mean,

788
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I gotta say this ship. I think like when you're

789
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: thinking about like our image are look and all that,

790
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, like as an artist you kind of

791
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: almost like how with responsibility to try to keep your

792
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: physical physical and everything almost the same if you can,

793
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: because like that's the that's the that's the image of

794
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: your that's your commodity. You know what I mean. I

795
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: mean if you look at this box right here, I

796
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: mean you got the smile and ship I mean, and

797
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I'm proud of you. Got to send a

798
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: couple of you're good.

799
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: I told them last time I was res here. I'm

800
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: trying to get Ris down with the crew.

801
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

802
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: Oh goddamn it, So I want to go in the

803
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 3: box something for a little bit.

804
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: Acting. One of my favorite roles you did is with

805
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: uh uh, what's that ship? When Adam Sander's sick and

806
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: you and the funny people. Funny people, Yeah, like.

807
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: Is acting something that attracted you to that world?

808
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: Or is it scoring the movies that bring you there? Yeah? No,

809
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't Like I didn't. I didn't forecast

810
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: myself being an actor, but I forecasted. You know, being

811
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: an actor is almost a dream, right kids watching TV? Unattainable. Yeah, yeah,

812
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: you don't think you're going to be on that silver screen.

813
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: But what happened, I think for me, unfortunately, was when

814
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: I was scoring movies, I had a chance. I got

815
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: this gentleman name usually don't give good she you know

816
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, because he he he, he made a

817
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: lot of big mistakes in our business and and he's

818
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: in jail for but you know what I'm talking about that, Yeah,

819
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: but he he he met me when I was scoring

820
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Kill Bill, and he.

821
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 3: Saw my charisma. Tarantino ship.

822
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he saw he saw that I had like

823
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: a magnet is like an actor has to have a

824
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: madnessys in my thing? And he so then he was

825
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: doing this movie called De Rail. It was him and

826
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: his other producer name of Lorenzo, Lorenzo the brother no Dams.

827
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm a drinking so I can't even say Lorenzo's name, right,

828
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: so I was just to my brother Lorenzo. Let's say

829
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: to a shot to Lorenzo. Lorenzo, but do something mate,

830
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: I Joe and all what the the the vatura? It

831
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: gets better? Yeah, every every every second Lonzo name Okay,

832
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: his name is yeah, let me say I said again,

833
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: Lorenzo d Bonnivataura. Let me say Lorenzo's name right, well,

834
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: Lorenzo d Bonnivatura. And uh and uh and mister bank

835
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: Bong was doing the movie and uh he caught my crib.

836
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: Yo.

837
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: He's like, Rizzo, I'm doing the movie. You still got

838
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: a cryb This is this is, this is this is.

839
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: I sure got a qlip fun You gotta have a

840
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: qlip phone? What to sound like? Go wow, you can't

841
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: hit nine one one?

842
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: You like this slow battery radio joints just in case, no,

843
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: I got I.

844
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Gotta we keep a hard wire Plus we got an

845
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: elevator in the crib. And and you got no. The

846
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: law is you have an elevator in the crib, you

847
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: gotta have a hard wire phone. Okay, that's a law.

848
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: That's not why I got the phone. Okay, but but anyway,

849
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: but he calls the crib and he just says, uhre's

850
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: do my movie. You have a new career. Now, that's

851
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: like that. I was like, but I had to go

852
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: to London. And so I told my wife and said, well,

853
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: I got to go to London. They want me to

854
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: do this movie. You know what I'm saying. Bunk bom

855
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: can say bunk bom. But and so bam I went

856
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: to London. It was called Derail mh and check this

857
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: it out. So I do this movie right, in this

858
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: particular film, this is when you acted me actings and

859
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: Clive Owens is the is the star and John Carlo

860
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: Esposito right, and my character is not gonna make it

861
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: through the movie because you're black. I'm sorry. Okay, Okay,

862
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: that's a question. I don't know that's rhetorical. It's definitely

863
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: still a typical this particular film. Okay, okay, right, my

864
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: character ain't gonna make it well, and I know that

865
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: I read the script right, but I don't know how

866
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: movies work. Okay, this is your first one, yes, okay,

867
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: your film. Okay, So I'm thinking when I get there,

868
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: everything is linear, like my character, Shit, you're gonna do

869
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: it ship you filmed back, We're gonna do it ship.

870
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: You know, you know which way it's gonna go. But

871
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: on day one they did the shot where they do

872
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: me dirty, you take it out and they gotta do prosthetics.

873
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: They put all this metal ship around my head, put explosives.

874
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: This ship is, this ship is, this ship is traumatizing,

875
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I mean? They put the

876
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: quarter load. Okay, so this is not like this is

877
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: like this it changes my life, you know what I mean?

878
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: They want Bob. I mean, first first shot of the day,

879
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, they prepping me like, yeah, we're gonna do this.

880
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: And then so so then the movie goes on and

881
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm exactly they want. But then the movie goes on, right,

882
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: And then I said to myself, was shit, the character

883
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: definitely ain't making It's no rewriting of that ship. So

884
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: I better do something to make the character remembered, rememberable, memorable, right,

885
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: And so I So there was this dude in my

886
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: hood that's always whistled every time he came around it.

887
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: And he whistled so much that even when he returned

888
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: to the essence at his funeral, one of his son's

889
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: whistled and the whole everybody just broken. Tears because he

890
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: just had this whistle, and so I said, I'm gonna

891
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: whistle every time my characters show up on screen so

892
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: that when it happens in the movie, the audience gonna

893
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: fil me, right, So sat it out. So I do that.

894
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: And when they do the testing, when they put movies out,

895
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: they test, They test like who you like, who you

896
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: don't like. So my character test is so high that

897
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: they gave him another scene and it caused the casting

898
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: agent to call me for American Gangster. But I went

899
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: into that director later though. He's the police and the

900
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: American gangster. Yeah, exactly, you played a good police, Don't

901
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: give me honest I did. I thought you was the boy.

902
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: I was almost almost called you, like, man, I'm glad.

903
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: I did that good right?

904
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: That would chase the most by the.

905
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, you know. I got nineteen the

906
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: rest on my sheep. Damn when they when they when

907
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: they when they pulled it out one day, and I'm

908
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: not bragging about this. I just saw it hit the floor.

909
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: This is this is this is this. When I was

910
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: like nineteen, and the judge was like, yo, bro, you

911
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: got to go shut down for a minute, no matter

912
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: what this. This is a petty it's a petty crime

913
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: right here waiting the floor. But but let me go

914
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: back to this director real quick. I know you gonna

915
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: chop this check it out. So now I'm with the

916
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: director years later, and you know I must have some

917
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: success in the in that field. I said, Yo, let

918
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Why on the very first day

919
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: did you cure my character?

920
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 3: Like, why can't you let me get used to the set?

921
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: He said? And he's he's a he's a sweetest guy.

922
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: He's like Bobby. Actually, I didn't know if you was

923
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: going to show up for the rest of the movie.

924
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: You know, rappers, they are volatile ship es. Seriously, they

925
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: don't come on time. So I knew I needed that shut.

926
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Once I got that, I say, whatever he do from here,

927
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: I could cut around. Oh that's crazy, you know, but

928
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: that was a stigma for us. You got to think

929
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: about it. Hip hop comes to Hollywood, the trailers smell yeah.

930
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying, when I realized that, I made

931
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: it my business right, because I'm notoriously known for being late,

932
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: I made it my business not to be I made

933
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: it my business to start being a reliable entity for

934
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: all of us so that when they call somebody know that. Yo. No, no, no, no,

935
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: these days, okay, you know what I mean, they'll show

936
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: up because a lot of hip hop is when we

937
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: was coming to the film, we bought out hip hop,

938
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: so we didn't really have the respective time. Oh it's

939
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: a different, different anyway, bunk bomb, But goddamn, I want

940
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: to go and.

941
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: Dive into Grave Diggers copy? Can you can you like

942
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: what spawned that project? Was it already something in your

943
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: mind in the Wu Tang beginnings?

944
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: No, the Grave Diggers is a brainchild of Prince Paul. Okay,

945
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: so the Grave Diggers Trince Paul super producers. Hold on,

946
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: let's let's let's toast Prince Paul. Look, genus, I don't

947
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: think you get enough. You know, we need him on

948
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: drinks here? Yeah, because because what's Grave Diggers. I'm sorry,

949
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm rushing the question. But what's Grave Higgers considered

950
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: the first horror rap considered? Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, were

951
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: you considering it that? Like hardcore? Was it a thing

952
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: to you guys doing that? No? I think like, we

953
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: don't name my ship. We didn't even name hip hop.

954
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: Hippo media media media called the horror core. We don't

955
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: name it, you know that, but it was it was

956
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: his brain child. He worked on Tommy Boy. He had

957
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: a lot of success and things like that. But I

958
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: met Prince Paul when I was doing Prince Raking The

959
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: High Hats, my first single was done by Prince Paul.

960
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: I never used to use high hats. Even if some

961
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: of the wou you'll go with this dude didn't pick

962
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: the high hats set right, Paul was like, no, you

963
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: need high hass. You know what I mean? They keep

964
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: the time. But he thought about it, and he said

965
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: four of his favorite them or three of his favorite

966
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: them seeds was fu quan for stuff to sonic right,

967
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Prince rock King, who didn't make it at the time,

968
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: and too poetic from too poetic right, he thought he

969
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: thought as lyricists that he just loved us as that.

970
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: And so this is before Wu Tang. I'm working on

971
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: Wu Tang, my own business, my own company, all that.

972
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, but I'm going to Long Island three

973
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: times a week to Prince Paul's house. It's parallel. I

974
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: don't even know. I don't know what's going to happen,

975
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: but I know that Prince Paul is Prince Paul I

976
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: admired him. I think Prince Paul, out of all producers

977
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: and all reality, he's the He's the father of the

978
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: hip hop skit.

979
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, seriously, his albums are crazy.

980
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: So even though we did our skits would come through

981
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: movies and Wu Tanger is known for their skits. Doctor

982
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: Dre is known for his skits. Prince seriously, he d albums,

983
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: those Daylight albums, yeah and all that. I forgot that

984
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: those albums so the ass were they were journeys within themselves.

985
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, so he thought of bringing us together. Now

986
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: far as of being grave biggas, that wasn't what it's

987
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: going to be. He don't. He don't know what we're

988
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: going to create it. But at the end, but at

989
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: that time, I was in a revery dark space, right,

990
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: So if you go back into that hip hop, I

991
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: created the fangs, all right, but the fans came from

992
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: a dream, all right. When I was young, nine ten

993
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: years old, nigga, the vampires kidnapped me care They threw

994
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: me in the bag and they carried me and the

995
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: dude had a crazy dog with him to His dog

996
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: was Silver. That'sing a silver dog, right, and he was vicious.

997
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: Yoall with a vampire. With a vampire, I like the

998
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: vampire women, you know what I mean? Because might like

999
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: vampire women, but you know, and they threw me in

1000
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: the they threw me to the women. And then when

1001
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: I became a vampire, I had metal teeth and so

1002
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: and so now I'm doing this and like, I got it.

1003
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring that shit to reality, you know what

1004
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean? And so I told the jeel to make

1005
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: the fangs were going grave diggers. You're going a resurrector,

1006
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: so me Paul fu Quan and poetic. You know, we

1007
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: we brainstormed on it and we thought about what it's

1008
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna be. We said, yo, the grave diggers. But the

1009
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: grave diggers had another con context. It was like, why

1010
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: be a grave digger? Well a calling to According to

1011
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: Malcolm X, he said, our people are mentally dead. So

1012
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: if our people are mentally dead, that means we got

1013
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: to dig them back up and bring them to life.

1014
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: So that's why you see the pic the sickle and

1015
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: the shovel. The sickle cuts the grass, the pick breaks

1016
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: the wood, and the shovel digs them up. You got

1017
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: the grim Reaper, the Gatekeeper, the Undertaker, and me, I

1018
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: bring it back. I bring you back to life. The

1019
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: Resurrector brings it back to life.

1020
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: You want to say, just to reiterate, I think it

1021
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: was dope, is that it was parallel to Wu Tank.

1022
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: It wasn't like, uh, Prince Paul came in and said, oh,

1023
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: because of.

1024
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: Wu Tang, let's do No, it was parallel. It worked out.

1025
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: It looked like from the outside looking at it looked

1026
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: like Grave Diggers came after and even that second album

1027
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: when we did Wu Tang Forever, we had the whole

1028
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: studio complex American Studio and in California. Yea, yeah, yeah,

1029
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: so we so no, we had We did both holburs

1030
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: at the same time. This album and Wu Tank Forever

1031
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: is done at the exact same time. Every I got

1032
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: everybody living at the oak Woods and okay, yeah, yeah,

1033
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: yea yeah. So we got twenty thirty apartments in the

1034
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: oak Woods, Grave Diggers flying and tire Woo flying, sons

1035
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: and man flying, and we just kill up priest flies

1036
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: and were just in the studio just making music, making music,

1037
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: and then Mutank Forever becomes the album and the Grave

1038
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: Diggers be coming down, and to.

1039
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: Be fair, Prince Poel was already a legend too, Yeah,

1040
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 4: super legend. Yeah yeah, yeah U.

1041
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: Kwan made that. Then they's nothing like hip hop. Yeah,

1042
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: so we want you to know. Our show is about

1043
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: giving people their flowers where they could smell them, they thought, so,

1044
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: where they could tell them, they think, where they can

1045
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: ding them, and they drinks while they can drink them.

1046
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that Snoop Snoop said is better than Grammy

1047
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 1: because it comes from your people.

1048
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't think so, right, So.

1049
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: I take this. Yeah, that's the point of them. Let

1050
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: me say this real quick, and we're not doing that.

1051
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: We're not done. Early earlier we got another bomber. Let's go,

1052
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: let's go. I do want to say this out loud now.

1053
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm proud of you, Yes, proud of what

1054
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: you're doing. See, hip hop gave us a voice, and

1055
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: for a moment, we thought that voice was limited to

1056
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: the beat into the ROMs you're showing improving and some

1057
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: other brother but you really kind of pining it in

1058
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: a certain way. Yes, that's right. That that that that

1059
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: that the voice and the magnetism doesn't have to be

1060
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: with the beat in the club. You know, just us,

1061
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: just hearing you talk us, hearing you talk to us, us,

1062
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: hearing you talk to the to the audience. It's a

1063
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: magnetism which you already had when you was doing, but

1064
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: now it's just and for for us, you know, sitting

1065
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: back and watching, it's like, Wow, the guard just went

1066
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: and made foot crunch to a new path, and many

1067
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: many people doing and many people following my footsteps. You know,

1068
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: they called me the Clarence X a motherfucker mother. But

1069
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about that.

1070
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that real quick.

1071
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: Because the other day, uh, well not the other day,

1072
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: but like you know, like last month, you know, I'm

1073
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: going through New York City and what I saw was

1074
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to say heartbreaking, but it was it

1075
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: was I don't want to say disappointing neither. It was

1076
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: different for me, right like going through a hood that

1077
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't know and hearing people say saying, Yo, what up, cuz,

1078
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: what up? What up? What up?

1079
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: Blood?

1080
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I ain't never used to hear

1081
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: that before a days here. You know what's crazy. Even

1082
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: if a person came up to you wanting war, you

1083
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: know what, the first word they's to say to you

1084
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 1: peace like like you can actually use the word piece

1085
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: in a negative way back then, but peace. And you're like,

1086
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: oh man, you know what I mean. But when And

1087
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: I want you to answer this, when did the gods

1088
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: take the back seat and negativity take the front seat.

1089
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have that answer right right,

1090
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: because I don't think negative ever really takes the front seat.

1091
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you know what I worded that wrong?

1092
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: You're correct, so so yeah, and I don't think God

1093
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: never takes the vaccie. But I'll say that you're saying,

1094
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: like when has that? When was the presence of that

1095
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: energy right not present? And now you got this other

1096
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: energy present?

1097
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1098
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: Like for is this not to be long winning? But

1099
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: let me just say, like when I used to go

1100
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: to Harlem, it was a thing I wanted to stop

1101
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: it in law schooling back like like I wanted to

1102
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: I want to go get some I wonder would get

1103
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: some oiels like I don't even see the instant man

1104
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: out there no more, like you know what I'm saying,

1105
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: so like I don't even know if a law of

1106
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: school with Mecca is still there, like they're still there, Okay, Okay,

1107
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: it's still there. Well, I'll say this like I'm sorry,

1108
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think no.

1109
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: A couple of things happened in New York, you know.

1110
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: First and foremost, I think it was when Juliani he

1111
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: made everything get off the streets. Remember that he made

1112
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: everybody go inside the building and pay and pay rent

1113
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: right right right, and and so that took away the

1114
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: street culture for a moment. The gentrification of that probably

1115
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: really put a big because you can walk in New

1116
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: York and you can find rare books like the iis paper, right,

1117
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They came by the call.

1118
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: They came before Columbus, the final call, you know what

1119
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean. So now you can't find that, you know

1120
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. So but also it's like the you know,

1121
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: the brothers also went out too, to the world, right,

1122
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: So it's almost like, you know a lot of a

1123
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: lot of brothers went. You go to DC, you go

1124
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, you go to different places. You see that

1125
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: brothers have kind of spread out, I mean atl But

1126
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: in our day, all that energy was concentrated, you know

1127
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. And then the magnetism of it has

1128
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: changed because of what magnetized the people. Now, people who

1129
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: are more magnetized by money. Right, So the mathematics teaches

1130
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: us about the twelve jewels right, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, freedom,

1131
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: justice and equality, food, clothing and shelter, love, piece and happiness.

1132
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: But most people right now, their concerns is food, clothing,

1133
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: and shelter. The other jewels almost irrelevant. And then for

1134
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: our community, the only way to get food, clothing and

1135
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: shelter is with money. Then the only way to get

1136
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: money in our community is that which we see is

1137
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: shining with money, which is our artists, our ball players,

1138
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the talent like we don't

1139
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: know that that, or we don't see the doctor live

1140
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: next door to the ball player. We don't know that,

1141
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So our image of what

1142
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 1: we think that attracts us and could get us those

1143
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: three major jewels is the artist point of view. And

1144
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: then the artist point of view have changed. So in

1145
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: our day, it's rock Kim's cars, one Big Daddy Kane, right,

1146
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: or it's Woutang it's nots right, you know what I mean?

1147
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: You know is that? And then it becomes more and

1148
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: more people that don't have this knowledge of self right, right,

1149
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: and and yet they're getting richer and richer. So the

1150
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: young mind is like, yo, why why would I like,

1151
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: why would I study when all I could do is

1152
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: do this and get it? And so the so the

1153
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: magnetism have changed, and then the brothers themselves. It's almost like,

1154
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: I think men get scared to talk to young men. Yeah, yeah,

1155
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't think that's

1156
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: that's that's unhealthy for us. Yeah, you know, I think.

1157
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: And then you know, like, look, let me keep it

1158
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: raw for a moment. You can censor me if you need.

1159
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: You know, we at that age right in our power ciphers,

1160
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: right when I mean by power sycles, Yeah, most of

1161
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: us who are there, right, power is the truth, right,

1162
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: It's a magnetic attraction. Right, he's fifty years old. I

1163
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: just turned congratulations. Can you remember that? Can you remember that?

1164
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: As of course that threshold? Let me let me get

1165
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: your flowers to man, I was like, no, good, no, okay,

1166
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, it's like, okay, so everybody got podcasts,

1167
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: everybody's talking, but most of us are talking about glory days.

1168
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: Most of us are talking about the darkness of it.

1169
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: And I unders ain't talking about the light. There's nobody

1170
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: sitting there saying like, yo, when I first read Message

1171
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: to the Black Man, or when I first read The

1172
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: Circle Seven, when I first read Malcolm X right, or

1173
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: or or any great books. You know James Allen as

1174
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: a man thinker. You know what I mean, The Art

1175
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: of War sun Zoo. You know what I mean, The

1176
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: Book of Changes to Each Ching, Right, nobody's talking that, right.

1177
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: We're we all trying to prove who's the most gangster.

1178
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: So we are trying to prove who's the most gangster

1179
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: whatever our children want to be trying to do, prove

1180
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: who the most gangster so and so so, so that

1181
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: has to change. We got to be listen, bro.

1182
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Gangster.

1183
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: Seriously, Malcolm X okay, walking talking that talk at the

1184
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: time when you couldn't talk it, traveling, pulling up to

1185
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: your city to teach you how to be better and

1186
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: and to teach you the power of a black man,

1187
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: and to teach you the the the revelation that the

1188
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: system is actually being plotted against you. And the system

1189
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: is like what you're saying, you know, Doctor King Marching

1190
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: turned another tee hit with fire holes and dogs, knowing

1191
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,479
Speaker 1: they were going to go into that noo. They walked

1192
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: into it. They knew it. Yeah, so so that that

1193
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: part of us. And ain't just saying I don't want

1194
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: to make this. It's not even a black thing. I'm

1195
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: just saying an American thing. The American Revolution itself, bro,

1196
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: was people saying, yo, son, I can't pay taxation with

1197
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: our representation, sir. You know they was. Let me just

1198
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: give you that jewel. Imagine this, bro, in the in

1199
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: the old America, if you made some nice cotton shirts

1200
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: in America, you had to ship them to London and

1201
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: then London package them and sip them back and sell

1202
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: them to you. If you live next door to me

1203
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: in the old America before the revolution, you can live

1204
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: next door and I could write you a letter and

1205
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: mail it to you.

1206
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 3: It will go to London first. Oh, because London had control.

1207
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: To get back you say in London, I'm thinking London

1208
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: When you say you mean, you mean, I'm thinking like London. Okay,

1209
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. No, but think about that, right,

1210
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: so so so people were brave enough to be vote

1211
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 1: against that. It was to we vote against taxation without representation,

1212
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: to we vote against tyranny, you know what I mean.

1213
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: And so triviny manifests itself in many forms, and people

1214
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: weren't food and diluted to accept it. And so then

1215
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: we go back to this is not going into the

1216
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: hip hop culture. It's like yo, of course it should

1217
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: be fun and it should be ruggedness, you know what

1218
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: I mean. We came with ruggedness, we know what we did,

1219
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: but still it should be substance, right, you know what

1220
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean. And until the substance come back, you're going

1221
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: to definitely be dealing with, you know, the eighty five

1222
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: mentality and what I mean about the eighty five mentality.

1223
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: So the eighty five they say people who are easily

1224
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: let in the wrong direction and hard to be let

1225
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: in the right direction, you know what I mean. They're

1226
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: also poisoned animal eaters, it says, people who don't even

1227
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: know their true origin in the world. They don't know

1228
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: their own power. I think about you know, someone who

1229
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: this thing about a community, you know who gets up

1230
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: and everybody got to dollar and they take it out

1231
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: of the community instead of keeping it in the community

1232
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: and rotating and recycling it. So those times it's changed.

1233
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: But I'm optimistic, but not pessimistic. And knowledge is not

1234
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: what they call it. Intelligence is always relevant because people

1235
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: are like, oh, you ain't relevant no more. Listen, bro,

1236
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: intelligence is always relevant. And anybody who gets too far

1237
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: away from that, all he's going to do is get

1238
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: up to a certain height and he's going to distill back. Right.

1239
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: So water never ridses above six miles from the Earth's surface, right, because.

1240
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 3: It can't get heavier than gravitation.

1241
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 1: He said, So when the water rides up there, and

1242
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: you could put that to a person, he's rising up

1243
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: and he's having these attracting powers, and he's getting up

1244
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: and then he gets up and now all of a sudden, boom,

1245
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back down a m for hell, right,

1246
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: hopefully snow because the snow was light, pure and fluffy,

1247
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But this is the same

1248
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: thing in the personality of the people, the same thing

1249
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: in the celebrity I watched some of us, Like I'll

1250
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: use myself as an example. It's like when I became

1251
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: like the number one, Like it was like number one,

1252
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I call it a complex.

1253
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's a high, it's a drug.

1254
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: It's like I'm number one nigga and can't tell me

1255
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: ship yo, He couldn't tell me nothing serious. I was

1256
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: with Quincy Jones and wasn't even listening to him. You

1257
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: was with Chrissy. I'm number one, you know what I mean?

1258
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: Knowing no, But even when Tyson was number one, he

1259
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: was I'm the best in the world. I'm I'm a

1260
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: Zodie at cancer. So maybe no, it's but it's an

1261
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: ego thing that kicks. I know you felt it, and

1262
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: so now all of a sudden, do you believe you?

1263
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: Believe you it? You would have chosenhim, you know what

1264
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, And everything you do is right, But it

1265
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: ain't I'm saying in the law. You know, he's merciful

1266
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: and if and if you're meant for his grace, he'll

1267
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: smack you with something. He threw Jonah in the belly

1268
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: of the well and sit down and think, homie, you

1269
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He had to sit there and

1270
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: meditate for a moment, you know what I mean, and

1271
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: then realize, oh, I better do what I'm ordained to do,

1272
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: not do what my ego is leading me to. You know,

1273
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: I talk about Jonah a lot to my buddies and

1274
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: ship right, because not Jodah hell no, now Jonah hell

1275
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: Jonah in the water on you and they say that

1276
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: tak it. Imagine this though this don't imagine this and

1277
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: this is not the funny part. Drank champs.

1278
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 5: Right.

1279
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: Imagine you on a boat partying with homies. A storm

1280
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: is coming and you kind of the new guy there,

1281
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: and they go, yo, we've been kind of cool before this.

1282
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: This guy is something might be him, and they take

1283
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: you and throw you off the boat. That's what happened

1284
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: to him. Wow, he goes in the water. According to

1285
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: the story, right, whether it's myth or magic whatever, but

1286
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: let's just take the story. He gets swallowed up by

1287
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: the well. Now, imagine you inside a well. He closed

1288
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: his mouth, and two hours later, you're still there. Now

1289
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: two hours you in there like, oh shit, what the fuck?

1290
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: You ain't dead though, this is my life, right, you

1291
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: ain't dead, but you trust me. You're thinking you're gonna

1292
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: be dead any minute now. But now it's four hours. Now,

1293
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: it's six hours. You ain't dead. But now it's twelve hours. Now,

1294
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: it's twenty four hours. Nigga, you fall asleep, nigga, Now

1295
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: you wake up, you're still there. Now you're hungry. Right now,

1296
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: you gotta smell it, you gotta feel the flesh. You

1297
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: gotta it's dark now twelve hours later. You don't know

1298
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: what time you lost time now you don't want to

1299
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: sleep right now, you don't know. But there's another twenty four.

1300
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: Still ain't getting nowhere, Still ain't eating, You don't piss,

1301
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: you don't took a shit. Listen, is deep? You like this,

1302
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: but you're alive. And then on that seventy second hour,

1303
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: the Mercy Issue and he opens up the spitch. The

1304
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: fucking man Jonah went right to his job. Boy, you

1305
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean? This is a life will humble you. Yeah,

1306
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: and that's a blessing. You know that happened to me

1307
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: in a different way, you know what I mean? When

1308
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: I thought I was the greatest and at the top,

1309
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, something happened in my life.

1310
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1311
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: Always in all my shot that's with your audience. It's

1312
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: like my mom's passed away. In the year two thousand,

1313
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: while I was at the photo shoot for the cover

1314
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: of the Sauce and the cover says where the Wu

1315
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: Tang Empire Rise again, And we had some preme clientele.

1316
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, definitely about to fuck these

1317
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: motherfucker's up. This album is is it. This is a

1318
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: five micer, you know what I mean. But yet, Bama Lama,

1319
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: you see what I mean. So and what that do

1320
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: for you is like okay, you realize, okay, your calling

1321
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: is more serious than the art. But be an artist, right,

1322
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: be an artist, That's what I am. But make sure

1323
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: you stay in tuned. So I took the time from

1324
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: that point, I visited many temples around the world. You

1325
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I went to Shiling Temple, Wu

1326
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: Tang Temple. Me and my wife did. We went on church.

1327
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: We go to churches, bro all types of churches. Went

1328
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: to Mecca, went to the mosque, went to the Blue Mosque,

1329
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: Abu Da. He went to pyramids of Egypt, all these

1330
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: spiritual things. Right. So that so me as an artist,

1331
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: when you do get something from the riza, you're gonna

1332
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: get that, You're gonna get this element of like, Okay,

1333
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: it won't be just without cause, without bloods. It will

1334
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: be peace God because God is a Greek word that

1335
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: means wisdom, strength, and beauty. And it's just three attributes

1336
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: of a law. It's not the whole ninety nine. It's

1337
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: just three attributes. But yet when we look at each other,

1338
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: we should see that wisdom. We should see that strength,

1339
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: We should see that beauty. We should see that and

1340
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: you should try to radiate that. You should try to

1341
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't got if you got strength,

1342
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: gains some wisdom, you don't be a strong, dumb motherfucker.

1343
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: If you got wisdom and strength gains some beauty, don't

1344
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 1: be a strong, smart, funky motherfucker. So these things you

1345
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: know are important. Bump bump, God, damn, let's take a

1346
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: shot for that. Well, tell about quick time with slime works.

1347
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

1348
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 4: This is our drinking game. We're gonna give you two choices.

1349
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 4: You pick one, we don't drink if you say both

1350
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: are neither. So basically, you don't really want to answer it.

1351
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: I want to be politically correct. Then we all drink.

1352
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 3: But really, the two the two choices we give you

1353
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,799
Speaker 3: is not about this and anybody.

1354
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 4: Really, we just want to bring up conversations about the

1355
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 4: people we're mentioned here.

1356
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: All good, cool, going to the second bottle? Yeah, oh,

1357
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: this is done.

1358
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: Lead that.

1359
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna leave that for the brothers way here, okay, cool, cool,

1360
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: this is long, y'all, y'all went in ready.

1361
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: I'm always tupoker d m X in which way?

1362
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 4: If this is okay, So everybody asked that question, this

1363
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 4: is whatever criteria in your mind.

1364
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 3: It could be you were closer with one person.

1365
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: One person make better spaghetti, one person was a better rapper,

1366
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: better producer, whatever whatever in your mind.

1367
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well, I'm gonna break the rules of

1368
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: your game, and I'm gonna drink when I drink. And

1369
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: but you mentioned Tupac and d m X, right, but

1370
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,799
Speaker 1: actually mentioned two of the most spiritually and tuned artists

1371
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: of hip hop prolific. Yeah right, I'm serious. I mean

1372
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: they weren't toned spirit a little bit more, you know

1373
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? So okay, they don't seem like I

1374
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: just know they both had that had that spiritual energy

1375
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: that just exuded out of them, you know what I mean?

1376
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: So both Okay, Okay, played the game.

1377
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta take the shot I took.

1378
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: I took my shot. Jamie is gonna be running around

1379
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: next Okay, Yeah, Nasa or Jiz in which way? Just

1380
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: the way? No, that both very powerful brothers. Right, But

1381
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: look for the MC, and my favorite best MC is

1382
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: the Juster. Okay, I don't think no MC could beat

1383
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: the just I think with have written for hip hop.

1384
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: No other MC compare. Even if you go to rock Kim,

1385
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: who is one of the greatest, right and most people,

1386
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: he is the greatest, and NAS is most people is

1387
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: the greatest, right. Right. If I go back and I

1388
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: look at what offered to hip hop, right, and then

1389
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: look at what US spawned right, Us spawned me right,

1390
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: dirty meth ray ghosts, these are all from us, is

1391
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: the enlightener, and you go get all your top MC's.

1392
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying this with a little EGO on my back,

1393
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: for ego won't get he won't leave Naje what what

1394
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: the war? All pholytically right is Actually no one has

1395
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: mastered yet, you know what I mean? Now outside the

1396
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: world with NAS did is this to me? Nas is

1397
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: to me? This is my own only analogy. I call

1398
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: NAS a Bobby Fisher of MC's because Bobby Fisher was

1399
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: the youngest MC to the youngest chess master to master.

1400
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: He became a grand master at the youngest age. There's

1401
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: a few that beat him over the years, but he

1402
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: was the first one at that age to be and

1403
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: NAS was a master at the age of sixteen seventeen,

1404
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: where most of us because you met us we was

1405
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: already in our twenties, but he was at the age

1406
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: of seventeen eighteen dope at somebody that was twenty five

1407
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: thirty true and you know, serious due he was a

1408
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: he's a he's a prodigy child of MC in you

1409
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But the just is already there

1410
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: by the time we meet, he's already writing ideas. You know,

1411
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: that's just one day.

1412
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1413
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm our challenge hip hop to do this. Get every

1414
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: MC lyrics and put them in a book and then

1415
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: measure it that way and see what you gain from it.

1416
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: Right if some make you smile, laugh or teach you

1417
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: game like you know, some rappers they give you the game,

1418
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: you don't even teach you how to hustle. You know

1419
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The Rule's gonna teach you how to

1420
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: love and all reality. And you saw going through some

1421
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: of these lyrics. Bro. First of all, the quantum science,

1422
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: the dude that built the Internet motem, you know, the

1423
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: Internet motive is No, you don't have you know what,

1424
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: Let you go the box. Listen, listen to the thirty

1425
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: six A talk about that. I'm saying that hit his

1426
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: brain cells opened. So that's what we do we open

1427
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: up your brain cells? We cause that. See, when you

1428
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: burn wood, you get fueled. You brain burn brain cells,

1429
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: you get thoughts. You put the right kind of wood,

1430
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: you get better fuel. Let's smoke. You put the right

1431
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: type of thoughts and energy, you get better ideas. You

1432
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, so Judah said in one

1433
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: of his lyrics, uh, something about via satellite from the

1434
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: Woo mansion, looking at all the branches that came from

1435
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: his tree. He wasn't talking about just the Woo. We

1436
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: were just talking about all the MC's that the Woo inspired. Now, right,

1437
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say last thing about the Jist because

1438
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm so he's my enlighten up. So what is for

1439
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: hip hop? And he won't never say it because he

1440
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: never comes out. He's pretty humble, and we need him

1441
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: on drinks. He's the one last member of After You. Okay,

1442
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: he drinks. But what he is for hip hop? He's

1443
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: actually the bridge. So when hip hop started in South Bronx, right,

1444
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: some would say nineteen seventy three, right, right, there's a

1445
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: project called Soundview Projects. Right, he's his cousin lives there.

1446
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: He's learning it from there. Wow. But he's the he's

1447
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: the thirteen year old. He bought hip hop to me

1448
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six. I was bought in seventy seven. Okay,

1449
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: he took me to the Bronx, to the Jams, right,

1450
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: but we the kids, though. I got my ass whipped

1451
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: from staying out again on the train here. Okay, okay,

1452
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: check it out bus bus note from the shallon bus

1453
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: boat train. Jesus seriously. So I got to talk about

1454
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,480
Speaker 1: that because because hip hop got all this great godfathers

1455
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: and pillars, right, and and it may sound egotistic to

1456
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: say that, but Wu Tang became one of those pillars.

1457
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 1: And that's because we have not the founding forefathers. We

1458
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 1: have the first generation from them who was amongst them

1459
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: as as as a spectator. So maybe only then it

1460
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: was only at best. I wouldn't even say one hundred mcs, right,

1461
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: you said it gets diluted after that? Yeah, right, you

1462
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When I learned how to MC,

1463
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't five hundred of us, you know. But anyway,

1464
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: keep going, Okay, so he pictures, Yeah, okay, bum bomb.

1465
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 4: I don't got to drink then, okay, you don't have

1466
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 4: to drink cool fourth disciple or true Master as producers

1467
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 4: as whatever.

1468
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: These questions are made by these guys.

1469
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: Just I'm saying, well, no, no, true master, the fourth

1470
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: is the disciples, the true masters, a master. He was

1471
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: already a master before Fourth became in the slight. But

1472
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: Fourth is dope though, but true mass the Uh yeah,

1473
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: if I was a pitt the measure, if I was

1474
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: to measure them from my camp of who was the

1475
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: wh who laid it the illess, they had true mass,

1476
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He has, He has the

1477
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: proof of it is he has more songs on the

1478
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: Wu Tang album than Fourth. But Fourth was young young

1479
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: man and he was special, special young man, and he

1480
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: did his thing for us. Yeah.

1481
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 4: DJ muggs are large, large pro and which way I

1482
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:38,560
Speaker 4: guess it could be whatever, but playing waves on it because.

1483
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Like yo, that's my mass. Like yo, he made me

1484
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: ill macaroniy one day. No, no, no, both my man,

1485
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean mugs. First of all, lost professor. Once again,

1486
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: we don't talk enough about lost professor. That's another one

1487
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: that want to die. His heir neither he don't want

1488
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: to die. Yeah, man, we're showing you how to gratefully exactly,

1489
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: beautiful bro but let me talk about them. I mean,

1490
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: Muggs is Mugs, right, and you know so much to

1491
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: the culture, Soul Assassin, you know, but you know, Lost

1492
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: Professor there's the pioneer. Yes, Like so it's like I'm

1493
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: sure that I'm sure that.

1494
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 3: That would probably exactly.

1495
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Lost Professor inspired Mugs. Muggs inspired Lost Professor.

1496
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: That's a good way to look at this ship the time. Yeah, so,

1497
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and I would say that, but I just want to

1498
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 1: say that that that he needs we need more light

1499
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: on him because he's like, uh, he's like one of

1500
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: those Red Bentley's, Like you know what I mean, Like

1501
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: you know some people got a Bentley like you see

1502
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: that other he's a vintage car bro he's Lost Professor,

1503
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't and I don't

1504
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time spend I didn't even get

1505
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: five days in life with him, you know what I mean.

1506
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,839
Speaker 1: When I see him, I just automatically have a reverence

1507
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: for him.

1508
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: And probably one of the first producer slash ms.

1509
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with with his lyrics.

1510
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't like them sne part was was not

1511
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 3: as good as the producing Like he was just good.

1512
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So sounding like you pick it laws from. Yeah, okay, Hice,

1513
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: we don't got a drink we can make. So this

1514
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: is a two part question. This is a two part question.

1515
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: All right.

1516
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 3: The question is Ellmatic are ready to die?

1517
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: Right right? But I also want you to address this

1518
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: lifetime rumor that there was a rumor that Meth got

1519
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: on the record were big, and that you did not

1520
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: want that to happen. You did not want so, so

1521
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: first the first madic or ready to die? First, I'm

1522
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: going emadic. Okay, all right, we got yes, let's talk

1523
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: this rumor rumor. Okay, no, No, I don't want on

1524
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: nobody beats wasn't the beast. It was just it was

1525
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: just like it was our time, and it was just

1526
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: like I didn't want nobody else sharing that in that moment,

1527
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I will super But

1528
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: Tracy Rapus, first of all, an os just another unsung

1529
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: hero of hip hop probably you know she she pitched

1530
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: that idea, you know what I mean? And and and yeah,

1531
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: I said, yes, she pitched the idea. She pitched the

1532
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: idea of of of Meth and Biggie doing the song together.

1533
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: And she was already smart, like she's she's the one

1534
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: that changes. Let me see what she did, bro Seriously,

1535
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: she came to stand alan to my apartment that had

1536
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 1: the records in the box. Okay who the album was

1537
01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: not out? Only protect your neckers out wow okay? And

1538
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I played her the demos of Method Man Dirty and

1539
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: I had a couple of demos that of songs. She

1540
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: didn't pick me from the demo they wanted, Yeah, get

1541
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: she wanted Meth and Dirty. They wanted both of them.

1542
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 3: For a BIGS album.

1543
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: No, no, listen, listen, this is to sign the Depth

1544
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Jam they jam. Oh so so she so I ended

1545
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: up signing myth the Depth Jam through her. By the

1546
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, her that that n R pen

1547
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: that signature, who took us to Wissell Simmons and all that,

1548
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: that was a big moment for us. So and her

1549
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: her vibe and and uh paper on the post of

1550
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: culture was was undeniable. And so when she said it,

1551
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: of course the biggie, Yeah, she said Biggie and Meth.

1552
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Of course I disagreed because I was very I wanted

1553
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: nobody fucking with the woo was this woo? But but

1554
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: I trusted her. I believe they trust her and I

1555
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: trust her, her her whole cultural posts, and she was right.

1556
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: So so let me ask you, was that the first

1557
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 1: feature who did outside of wolves that like, like you

1558
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: know what meth was, Meth was hopping featury me was

1559
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: the early feature So he did because no, because Meth

1560
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: is that type of MC right, Meth love it. Look,

1561
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: he loved rappings. To this day, he's gotten better.

1562
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm not I think he's gotten better listen, but I

1563
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 4: feel like he's he's gotten better.

1564
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: He was always dope, right, he's great, Right, He's he's

1565
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: at a level and nobody's talking about him in that degree. Nobody,

1566
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: nobody niggas talking about.

1567
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 7: What they didn't take those lists and like they like,

1568
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,440
Speaker 7: it's ridiculous with his wits and his liverical ability.

1569
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Right now, Yo, it's like it's almost uncanny.

1570
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: It's like he went backwards in terms of like being

1571
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 4: the youthful Meth again, like he's just.

1572
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Gonna hold other chamber. He's free to just fuck you

1573
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: up on the mic. But anyway, I'm glad that they

1574
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 1: did it right, and I'm glad that I was proving

1575
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: along on that one. Right.

1576
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but but I was super duper fuck that, right,

1577
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean.

1578
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: In retrospect, I believe you're right, But I believe in

1579
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: that situation you were supposed to let it go because

1580
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: that did you know, by the way, when biggest actions

1581
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: for this feature, what level of big is he? He

1582
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: is he already Biggie Smalls or he's he's becoming that

1583
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: guy he's coming at coming. That would be the first

1584
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: that No. Look, he had. I mean, first of all,

1585
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: he had party and party, which is already it's fun.

1586
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: He's bubbling and ship. But this is his album right right,

1587
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: and this is going to be on his album. But

1588
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: but we're already we're the man already, you know what

1589
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: I mean. He's going to be the man though he's

1590
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: about to drop the medical megaton bombs, you know what

1591
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean. But we don't know that, right, but we

1592
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: just I was just really selfish about it. Somebody told

1593
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: me to do that too, somebody clear, No, somebody told

1594
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: me to be selfish. It was Daddy or from stept

1595
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: to Sonic. He came to me one day, ran into him.

1596
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, God, y'all killing it. The wood is

1597
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: just and this everything. Say, y'all gonna tell you something.

1598
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Don't let no other producers producer mcs I said, why,

1599
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I said, don't worry about that, don't do it. Don't

1600
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: understand mo size too. Like I'm like, I think, I'm like,

1601
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: you know why he might. I think he's I'm gonna.

1602
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 3: Go with his many ms and like that's too crazy.

1603
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: If you take a look at it. Right.

1604
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 3: Of course, over time you did keep it the beginning,

1605
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, we did.

1606
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: We did. Listen who did seven platinum back to back

1607
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 1: as a producer single Wu Tang goes platinum, multiple platforms,

1608
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: method Man double Plat, Gray Kwan Platt, dirt Plat, a Platt,

1609
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: ghost Plat, then another rule multiplats, back to back, protective.

1610
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't Jesus.

1611
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 3: They come with Kappa go gold, right, he come home

1612
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 3: go gold.

1613
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Then come back plat again. Not the so so keep

1614
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: and that was that was you know, from one leadership.

1615
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 1: So that was good. Right. So anyway, anyway, let me

1616
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: get off me. This is this is I say, that's

1617
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: that's that's, that's that's. I didn't when I looked at

1618
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: it one day, I said, damn son, but y'all I

1619
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 1: never left the basement. I'm serious because I want to

1620
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: get back to that.

1621
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 3: But before we leave this question, I want to ask

1622
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: one more question.

1623
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: Okay, you clear this record because you had to clear

1624
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: this right, you had to clear math right, So you

1625
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 1: clear this record. Then the very next album you guys

1626
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: drop it's Ghosts and Ray actually going at Biggie like,

1627
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: what was your mindset saying, wait a minute, did I

1628
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 1: did not make a mistake or how was you feeling? Period?

1629
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 4: No?

1630
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 3: Well, but first of all, Big is my man, right,

1631
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1632
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: Like you knows in peace, rest and peace? You know,

1633
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: like like Big is my man, rest in peace? And

1634
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: was my man? Like he was happy for me. I

1635
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: was happy for him. We seen each other not on

1636
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: we seen each other on right. So that's how New

1637
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: York was back then, you know what I mean? When

1638
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: he got on though, every time you see me, he

1639
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: saw me hit me with a bottle of champagne. That's

1640
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the kind of man he was, which is only a

1641
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: punch does that? You know what I mean? But as

1642
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:20,799
Speaker 1: he becomes more and more than man and all the mcs.

1643
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: My crew is a crew of em seeds. We and

1644
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: my crew is is vicious at this time, and now

1645
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 1: he get enlightened, and so it's like Yo, du was

1646
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: ready to eat that, you know what I mean. That's

1647
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: the energy of m seeing right. That's why every time

1648
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: you see a nigga want pop pass a bottle, I'm like, Yo,

1649
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that's he blessing me.

1650
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 3: Don't get mad because he passing me a bottle.

1651
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: Right, But that's not fun all that right because we

1652
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: was vy also at that one point, is like he'th

1653
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: the abbot to ourselves. It's another thing we was. We

1654
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: was it was it was like no, it was us

1655
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: and nobody and that was our energy. That was It

1656
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: took a long time for us to get out of

1657
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: that energy, you know what I mean. So you know

1658
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: when they said it, it's like they're gonna. I don't

1659
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: We can't sensor what they want, what they feel, because

1660
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 1: it had to be something because if you think about

1661
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: what they actually said, they was like they nigga bit

1662
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: non ship like this actually had nothing to do with them.

1663
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: If you think, but you've been another man and hip

1664
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: hop had one rule. Yes, it's true, still rules. Yeah,

1665
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: the rules still stand. It's just still standing. But you know,

1666
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: biting is is like it was just it was just

1667
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: the forbidding feud of hip hop. You know what I

1668
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: mean and and and when you hip hop and you

1669
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of you know one thing about hip hop, knowing

1670
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: that people don't remember you couldn't just wear your cago. Kid.

1671
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: The dude who had the cano had more than the

1672
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: cago wng. But you know what I mean, he had

1673
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,560
Speaker 1: he had a spect, you know what I mean. He

1674
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: was able to walk through that with that can go

1675
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: and get back, you know what I mean, whether they're

1676
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: on the ferry bus train, you know what I mean.

1677
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 1: So we we we those kids that we came from

1678
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 1: Staten Island to lie in quarters I mean Red Part,

1679
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Union Square. It's like we're

1680
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: in there, you know what I mean. And then there

1681
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: you can't be in there. It's not easy to be

1682
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: there and not be from Brooklyn, right, you know what

1683
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: I mean, not be from Queens, you know what I mean,

1684
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: if you're from Queens. It's like back in those days,

1685
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: the rapper, the rapper. Why do you think rappers have bodyguards?

1686
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: They couldn't even come in like that. So hip hop

1687
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: had this this this heavy culture of being strong, pier

1688
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: and they had a heavy culture of not biting now

1689
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, I guess that's how the

1690
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: brothers felt like he bet and we and they interviewed

1691
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 1: Ray and Ghosts right here. They spoke up on it.

1692
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: What they say about it there was they were like

1693
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: that's how they felt at the time, but they regretted it,

1694
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: you know because they said Ghosts actually because I believe

1695
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 1: we had way con talk about it. It was the

1696
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: first time we had ghosts talk about and ghost was like,

1697
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, he made peace with him, like he had

1698
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: got to see it. That was good, you know what

1699
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Oh that's good. No, No, after the piece

1700
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: came before that internally, okay, right, the vine in power right,

1701
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 1: they already was like, nah, remember I produced on BIG's album?

1702
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Was right? Because no, yo, they was they like they

1703
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: they was. They didn't appreciate it. We we we we

1704
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: squashed that though, because it was like like like they

1705
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I play that cumulation all the time.

1706
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 1: So it was like, but hip hop is that. And

1707
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm glad that because because you know, we don't talk

1708
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: about ship because uses just to keep moving. But I'm

1709
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: glad that Ghosts had a chance. So if he deemed

1710
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: that with him, Big was a special, special special dude.

1711
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: We all know that, but some of us didn't get

1712
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 1: a chance to shake his hand, laugh with him, you

1713
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, be up in the studio with him,

1714
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: and none of that. So they don't so they wouldn't

1715
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: know what they don't know. He he was like a

1716
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: prince like you know what I mean, like a like

1717
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: like a very rare you know what I mean. Then

1718
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 1: when they when you go, like you said, illmatic and

1719
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: ready to die, I'm saying for me, lyrically illmatic. It's

1720
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: the masterpiece of lyrical talent. But of course ready to

1721
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Die gave us some of the best songs that pop

1722
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: ever's going to get, right, bring us back.

1723
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 3: To that skit era you was talking about.

1724
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Prince Paul. So anyway, ys move on, look

1725
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: at let's go. How am I doing over here? Mama? Yeah,

1726
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: stap your feet through times like zone out to pieces

1727
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 1: or Brooklyn and which way the way you are saying

1728
01:39:54,920 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 1: both because both dank right. I was just trying get

1729
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: you to drink, that's all.

1730
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 4: You know what.

1731
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. We're here to celebrate

1732
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: you tonight.

1733
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 4: Brother.

1734
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 1: I know you're a humble brother, but Lipsen, we're here

1735
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: to celebrate you. You are arguably one of the smartest

1736
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: people in hip hop, one of the people who invented

1737
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 1: the lane that has never been duplicated and will never

1738
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: be duplicated. And I want you to know how much

1739
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: we appreciate you here. So we're gonna all night. We

1740
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 1: are here, we are residents. I mean, look, his eyes

1741
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: is getting shy, so he don't remember this. You do

1742
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: remember this? You don't remember when we was in France. Yes,

1743
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: you had that, I had what happened to it? Yeah?

1744
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna y'all? Yes, And that night I told you.

1745
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I did you I kind of I kind of

1746
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: you tilted that you didn't gonna You know what, Let

1747
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: me be honest with you. It doesn't taste like like

1748
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: it creeps up one.

1749
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 3: It don't take it was dangerous. Are you drinking with

1750
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 3: the support?

1751
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 1: With the support?

1752
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 4: Which I think I like that. I like that's a

1753
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 4: that's a that's a nice bearing. I mean, well, Japanese

1754
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 4: being and sake they just go great together.

1755
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: Yes, themature, but you got another bottle of that's the last? Yes, No,

1756
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: we got one more good good. The temperature is getting right, okay,

1757
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: okay to feel good, so I'm gonna move on. Okay,

1758
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: you said both right, yep, all right, cool, I'm gonna

1759
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: keep it going. He went to the bath. Okay, you

1760
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 1: said something about hold on hot sake. You said you

1761
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 1: only drank hot sock No. I used to only drink

1762
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: hot socky because I thought it with cold beer. I

1763
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 1: thought that goes together. Wow, I don't know. Well, hot

1764
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: sake is usually bad socky. So so you make it

1765
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: hot just to kind of like to get rid of it.

1766
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 1: You would never heat does something? This is you know

1767
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: what's crazy. I've never drank hot saki wolf Japanese people.

1768
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: Only drink it with my white friends. Okay, so is

1769
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: that bad? It's no, no, no, no, no that man,

1770
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,679
Speaker 1: you've been no no, no no. Hot saki is usually

1771
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: going to be a lower grade. Right. So this is

1772
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: here right here, and you'll see right this is a

1773
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: jumai okay, right, So the jumai is a special way

1774
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 1: they make it. So so that's like a gave like

1775
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 1: in tequila. Like there's different thing. Yeah, exactly, it's like

1776
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 1: a Nate hole okay, okay, and blanc hole.

1777
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 8: Right.

1778
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: So even know this is not stuffed in the barrel. Okay,

1779
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: The point being made is that you will never heat

1780
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 1: this up, okay, you know, I mean that would be

1781
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 1: like destroying if you have some saki, like you know,

1782
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: some fot out of saki okay and you just kind

1783
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: of going to the hibachi spot and they.

1784
01:42:47,200 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 5: Be like, yeah, yeah, you know, I ain't gonna lie.

1785
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 9: I swear to go.

1786
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 1: I thought I knew every drink etiquette in the world.

1787
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: Just fucked me up just now, because that's what who

1788
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 1: I spoke to today, Diego. I used to always drink

1789
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: hot sock, right, so I didn't know. I didn't know

1790
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: that that's that's the.

1791
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 3: Cheap ship because if you ask them to heat this up,

1792
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 3: they ain't gonna heat.

1793
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 1: It up for you. They're gonna be like no, no, no, no,

1794
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, are They're gonna charge you price of

1795
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: what they costs heat it up, and you're gonna lose

1796
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: what you paid for. Right, Because I used to drink

1797
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Japanese whiskey, right and jamming Yamazaki eighteen, ordered Yamazaki eighteen,

1798
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 1: and you order it with the ice, they won't give

1799
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: it to you, right, They were like no, right, Like

1800
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: you go to wiki with ice, right, You're not that,

1801
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: You're not that, not that. So maybe you put one

1802
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: drop of water in it though, just so some some people,

1803
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: the ice is only to open up, the open up,

1804
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: the open up the flavor of it, right, whiskey. Yeah,

1805
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:58,560
Speaker 1: but most of you ever you ever went to a

1806
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: whiskey convention? No, yo, dude, anybody want to a tasting

1807
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: where they taught us that everybody at the convention they

1808
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: have an eye dropper, okay, and they go they just

1809
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 1: put one drop of water first and then because it

1810
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 1: opens it up. Remember this nake has been distilled and

1811
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 1: it's inside of a bow. So a little bit of

1812
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 1: hydrogen oxygen looses those atoms up, you know what I mean.

1813
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: So that's why you get the big solid rock that

1814
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: don't melt.

1815
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 3: That's the reason.

1816
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, could the drink

1817
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: just good? All right? I do a curve w after

1818
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 1: after what Ready to die?

1819
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 4: Man?

1820
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: All right?

1821
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 3: Buck Wilder diamond D in which way, we don't know

1822
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 3: what you are.

1823
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: So I don't know those brothers right personally, I spect them,

1824
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: but I can't say I know them, man. But I

1825
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: would say that diamond D once again just offers so

1826
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: much to the culture. He he he bought in another

1827
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 1: chamber that that was that was needed, you know, I mean,

1828
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: are they both in the the I T I believe

1829
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: both the I T C. But it's like and and

1830
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: and it's just the when Diamond had like he's like

1831
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,520
Speaker 1: the gristle on the chicken.

1832
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 3: Another rapper producer had, the ROMs.

1833
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: Had the flow. It's like, it's like, what's the other dudes,

1834
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: we don't talk about enough. We don't talk about foul

1835
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: monk or not nose piece we go up, yeah, we

1836
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 1: go piece, We wait and but yeah, so I'm gonna

1837
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: go diamond d on that and let them fight that out. Okay,

1838
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: wrapping up that just just in just in the chambers,

1839
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: like like like the full the full package. Would you

1840
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: like better wrapper or produce it me? Yeah? Yeah, oh

1841
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: what you mean? I mean?

1842
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 3: This is this is question that's both both. I'm not bullshing.

1843
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 3: This gets better as you go. Way you stand up,

1844
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 3: and they don't try to take a beat, you know

1845
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Once you stand up, I know it's

1846
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 3: a different life.

1847
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: You check this out, right, So a lot of people

1848
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: know me for my beats, and a lot of the

1849
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: look a lot of the industry, you know, it was

1850
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: it was inspired by my beats. You a ready, right,

1851
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 1: and all phrases do that. Im able to add inspiration

1852
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 1: to anything. But they overlooked me as an MC. You

1853
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But and it's my lyrics. If

1854
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 1: they were to pay more attention to my lyrics, the

1855
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 1: kids would be better, But the kids wouldn't be on

1856
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: the route there on. I don't write for myself, yo.

1857
01:46:55,040 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: I write scriptures so that you could hear the chill

1858
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: with the feedback. We don't need that, right, ten o'clock,

1859
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: where's your see that right? See that right? Because women

1860
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 1: run around chasing shit? But where's your kids at? Baby

1861
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: feeling Matt Hostel wearing at all postile? That was a

1862
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 1: style back then, flowing like Christ. When I speak to God,

1863
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: I'm bringing gospel, bro, you know what I mean. So

1864
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: it's like my mission was to instill inspiration like I

1865
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: wanted to be. I'm lyrically, I'm serious. So you go

1866
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: back and listen to my lyrics, bro, and take time.

1867
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: Fusion of the five elements to search for the higher intelligence.

1868
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 1: Women walk around cellar and live in irrelevant the most

1869
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: benelevant king communicate through your dreams. Mental pictures have been painted,

1870
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 1: but the law is heard, is scene everywhere, and you're

1871
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: surrounding the atmosphere, thermisphere, stratusphere, trappisphere. Can you imagine from

1872
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: one single idea everything appeared here? So understanding will make

1873
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the truth crystal clear. We got innocent black immigrants locked

1874
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 1: in housing tenements eighty five dependent where phair recipients. My

1875
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: neighborhood has been stamped like a concentration camp. For at nighttime,

1876
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 1: I would walk through my throat. I was bright as

1877
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: a street lamp. Electric proles right, electric proves, robotic strolls,

1878
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: taking telescopic pictures of the globe. Babies being born now

1879
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: with Michael Chip stuff inside their earlobes, examinated vaccinated lies,

1880
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: fabricated food, and drug administration testing poison in prison population.

1881
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: My occupation is to stop the inauguration of Satan. They

1882
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 1: thought it was Ronald Reagan. That's why I come to

1883
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 1: slave men like Bartholomeo, because every particle of some physical

1884
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: articles is diabolicals down to the last molecule. But anyway,

1885
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: but anyway, it's like I was doing that because shot that.

1886
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 5: You do the work.

1887
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, you said, producing m C And yes, that's why

1888
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: I said both. I love the way, yeah, okay, by nature?

1889
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Which way you're that's going to probably be now And

1890
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm getting clown im drinking and keep saying which way,

1891
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 1: but I can't help but say which way good? No problems,

1892
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: is my man? Man?

1893
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 4: I think it's under I don't say underrated, but I

1894
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 4: think he deserves to be higher.

1895
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 3: And everybody's top list of them CS.

1896
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: Like Sticky as well. Yeah, yes as well. Yes, they

1897
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: both inspired culture flows and identity for a lot of rapplets.

1898
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: A lot of their stuff is embedded in a lot

1899
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,719
Speaker 1: of em c's like it's like it's their sheet cold

1900
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: that they won't admit, right, you know what I mean?

1901
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: But for me, think you Treaches is both a special

1902
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: because I would say both okay, and I'll tell you why.

1903
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 3: You think that show.

1904
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Wait till you get up both they both like New

1905
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 1: York is such a special place and shout out New

1906
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Jersey as well, and Philadelphia and Long but New York

1907
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 1: long asters that's us were together. Somebody trying to say

1908
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo wasn't New York. Buffalo is New York, New York.

1909
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: You're not going for that, veron all, that's New York, bro.

1910
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: But for Trench and and any and them, Mamud Tommy boy.

1911
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: That's right. I was tom Boy too, and we wasn't

1912
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 1: nobody made it yet, so they sending us out together

1913
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: to the radio with which came in at my name.

1914
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, like this they make it though.

1915
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: I remember going to see him after Apollo, after they

1916
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: made it, and I ain't seen him like my five

1917
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 1: six months. You know, I'm still trying this ship. But

1918
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: you know it's my mass you know, they oh shit,

1919
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: let me, he's my brother. Trech is like that type

1920
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 1: of guy. He's a special guy. He's just he's one

1921
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 1: of the once again another special entity. But but I

1922
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: seen them. He came off stage sweat, he took his

1923
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: shirt up, muscles everything, It's like bunk bunk ship And

1924
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship, my my dude. We were

1925
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,560
Speaker 1: still a limo together like this falling out, like just

1926
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: going to the radio, just doing freestyles, hoping, and now

1927
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: he he was platinum. Yo, bitch is going crazy. You

1928
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: know my song is about business. They're not going crazy,

1929
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but but still the

1930
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 1: brotherhood was like that, you know what I mean? And

1931
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: when WU were opened our first store, this that and

1932
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 1: the other. Right, yeah, okay, he came through basically basically

1933
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: almost bought it out. Wow, you know what I mean,

1934
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 1: that's how much. But then you go about the Sticky,

1935
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: it's like Sticky and Onyx and fucking Frasro. That's my

1936
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: those are my party homies. Were the dudes in the

1937
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: party before nobody's on. We're the real dudes in the party,

1938
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like whatever, you know

1939
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 1: what I mean, if it's a vic, if it's something

1940
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: going down, we were the real meat, dirty, sticky me Frasro.

1941
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: If you if you was in the party, in the

1942
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: street party, those are the real motherfuckers. That how they

1943
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: got in, we don't know. Is it dangerous now in

1944
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: this party a little more dangerous, yes, you know what

1945
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean. So sticky in them all they was like

1946
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: when they got on too, it was like I was like,

1947
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 1: oh shit, all the real niggas is getting on now,

1948
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:48,560
Speaker 1: like some of the real people that wasn't just like

1949
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: uh just kind of like the streets was getting in.

1950
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: Specs as an example of the streets getting in. Sticky

1951
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: is an example of the streets getting and who is

1952
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the entire community straight up? Though? Anyway, love what you got.

1953
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 3: Karas one on rock him in your way, I say,

1954
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 3: which way?

1955
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Wow, Jamie, Look, that's that's that's even though it sounds hard, right,

1956
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: rock him, Okay, right, they both gave us so much,

1957
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1958
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 3: And caras One, you know his type of dude.

1959
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: Nobody ever wanted to get on after caras won. You

1960
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 1: never did a show. He's with caras One. You better

1961
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: go first. And he gave a speech in between and

1962
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: ship and everyone shuts up and listens. Yo, he did

1963
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: one show. Yo. He dropped back to back bangers. I'm

1964
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 1: talking about ten, twelve, thirteen, back to back bangers and

1965
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 1: then like, okay, that was the mic check didn't wait

1966
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: into the ship. That's something. There's how many bangers he got, right,

1967
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: because he made albums that was full of bangs listen til.

1968
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1969
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: So in that capacity you're gonna not find really not

1970
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: nobody that could do that. But when you when you

1971
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 1: mentioned it to me, my mom went to the argument

1972
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: of those mcs who was the best and what rock

1973
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: Kilm wrote in his two albums.

1974
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and that didn't curse exactly

1975
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 3: for most part.

1976
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Of the most part what he wrote, bro, no MC

1977
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 1: of that generation compete compared to that. You know what

1978
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They could try and argue it if you want.

1979
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: But if you go, what did you say when the

1980
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: Earth gets further and further? He said? Follow me? Right,

1981
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 1: so you thought you was first, Well, let's travel at

1982
01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a magnificent speed around the universe. You thought you was first,

1983
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: will follow me, and let's travel at a magnificent speed

1984
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 1: around the universe. And what would you say when the

1985
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: Earth gets further and further away, and the planet seems

1986
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: small like balls of clay, and you straight into the

1987
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: milky way, wells out of sight as far as your

1988
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: eye can see, not even a saddle lighte. But then

1989
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 1: suddenly you see a star. You better follow it because

1990
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 1: it's the all from the to triple darkness, and then

1991
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: appeared for you. So his lyrical content and abilities were

1992
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 1: just now incredible. So even caras One gave us a

1993
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, like what's beef right? Or

1994
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 1: even when he talked about you know, your diet. The

1995
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 1: teacher Jimmy my philosophy is Jimmy great great great, But

1996
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the concentration she what makes her dope.

1997
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: Em See, this is the way you could could taking

1998
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 1: the throat in the garbage. Some mcs are a container

1999
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: of juice. You ever get that good apple juice, like

2000
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: that whole fucking Martelli's apple juice. That ship is good, good,

2001
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:22,879
Speaker 1: it is good. But some MC's it's the concentrated apple juice.

2002
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 1: You gotta add water to this, nigga, my chemist, dad,

2003
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: you gotta add water, all right, Okay, I be asking that. Okay,

2004
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: now this one I already because I bet, I bet

2005
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: you will be on time. And I lost that bet.

2006
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 1: But I bet on this this question too. Hold on,

2007
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: that's a good guy. But no, I bet on you.

2008
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: I was on time.

2009
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 3: We thought as much as we were talking, you were definitely.

2010
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 10: We were here two hours early just to make sure

2011
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 10: because we knew he was gonna be on time.

2012
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: I bet on you. We do this with every artist

2013
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: like we bet right, and I got to afford thirty

2014
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: sucked up.

2015
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 3: We only say because we told everybody he's gonna be

2016
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 3: on time.

2017
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: But but but hold on, but I'm not. I'm not

2018
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna lead the witness. Analog or digital bought me digital

2019
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: that well, if you'd have asked me a few years ago,

2020
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: I would have I would have chose this time I

2021
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: got to say both, I love again. I thought you,

2022
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: I know, if you had some years ago reason why

2023
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: I would have said digital a few years But first

2024
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: of all, digital is where we're at. But you can

2025
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: still use this. There's things that you can still use analog.

2026
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about while I saying analog, bro,

2027
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: because now we're in the AI world.

2028
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 3: It's a whole different world now.

2029
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 1: So now that we're in the AI world, you're gonna

2030
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: wish somebody just played the guitar for you. You're gonna

2031
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: wish at the resonance of that. You wanna want to

2032
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: wish that the that real physical sound is real. Watch

2033
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: when you get a porter, a porter shorty. When the

2034
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Porter Shorty is the robot. Yeah, Watch when you get

2035
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: a porter shorty short Yeah. I hope, we hope. We

2036
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: don't need them. We got wives for some dudes. People

2037
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna get Porter Shorty. It's gonna, it's gonna it's gonna

2038
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: lyric about it. The Porter. Yeah, the Porter, the Porter Shorty.

2039
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Right when you do it, she's gonna click her eyes

2040
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 1: and record it for you and then hit it and

2041
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: then she's gonna play it back. I don't even know

2042
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 1: what the I don't know. That's the play. When you

2043
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 1: got your robot shorty recording you. She's gonna film that

2044
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: you're doing. She's gonna be filming you as you're doing it.

2045
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 1: But you want her to film, You want her to listen.

2046
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: Bro's having it on his own. He gotta take his data.

2047
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 3: It needs data.

2048
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,919
Speaker 4: I see just a sign note. I've seen this billionaire

2049
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 4: on It was something I saw online. But he said,

2050
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 4: you know, the future of investing. He wants to invest

2051
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,839
Speaker 4: in sports because AI is going to take over everything,

2052
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 4: and everything's gonna be so digital that the physical people

2053
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 4: that actually do sports is gonna be a commodity running man.

2054
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2055
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's investing all his money. This is a

2056
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 4: guy that invested in tech supposedly, now he's gonna invest

2057
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 4: in sports. He's going analogue. He's going analog.

2058
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he's doing.

2059
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 3: So he said, both okay, okay, I like, hold on,

2060
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 3: I got interrupt you.

2061
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 1: I like that listen. You know, is he taking all

2062
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 1: these shots? You hitting these dudes going back to back

2063
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 1: on the Bone Show? Yeah, okay, okay, oh no, this

2064
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 1: is all no, no, no, no, it's a good thing.

2065
01:59:56,440 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm press he got the low let

2066
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 1: me see that. Yes, yeah, I'm smoking later, Yeah, okay

2067
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 1: for yoll how much time? You know we kind of

2068
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 1: the hour, right, Yeah, I'm happy. Listen. Let me just

2069
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: want to make it all the way through. Yes, yes,

2070
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. Bro, I'm gonna be honest.

2071
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 1: If we've done it's part of the show. Yes, but listen,

2072
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: but let me just tell you something. And you know,

2073
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: we've had other people on this show, we had other legends,

2074
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: but we have never had the abbot on this show.

2075
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 1: And you know what, I am so happy, I'm so

2076
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 1: honored and we he asked me if.

2077
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to say is, man, this is

2078
02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 3: this is a blessing.

2079
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Man. So in case I ain't saying earlier or we

2080
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't say it earlier, I just want to say to

2081
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: you and your beautiful wife, thank you. Man. You know

2082
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying because I know I know you ain't

2083
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know at the end of the day,

2084
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 1: like you know, I you know, I live this life,

2085
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 1: so I understand, like and our culture, what we were

2086
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 1: trying to do is, you know, so many people say

2087
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: that if you have ten years in this game, like

2088
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: you washed up and so many other and so many

2089
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 1: other coaches. I've never even heard that word be spoke

2090
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: of washed up or your time is up?

2091
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 3: Like what the fuck is that?

2092
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 1: Does that mean?

2093
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 3: Other than boxing and sports and like that? But what

2094
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 3: other genre of music?

2095
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers Martley Crewe and them niggas, they tore fucking

2096
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 1: them niggas nine hundred, Like I just saw the Grateful

2097
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 1: Dad in Vegas two weeks ago. I don't even know

2098
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 1: those people are still lying. I love them. I think, Bob,

2099
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 1: Where's eighty two? And they're still killing it, killing it,

2100
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 1: beautiful show. So why they can't hip hop? Why why

2101
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: we can't grow with that? Why we can't? And you

2102
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: know what's crazy about I'm sorry to make it all

2103
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 1: make sense, but let me make it, make it, make

2104
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 1: it all make sense. That was then illest thing about

2105
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 1: You're watching you and nas, you guys and knaves in

2106
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 1: Paris together was I was looking. I was like, look

2107
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 1: at the audience and the shit was packed, it was

2108
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,400
Speaker 1: sold out. But I'm looking, and there was some there

2109
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 1: was there was a lot of youngins in there that

2110
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 1: you thought were with their parents. But then I was paused.

2111
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: I was watching their mouths and they knew the words,

2112
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, their parents.

2113
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 3: I rememberated like, you.

2114
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 1: Know, at first, at first sight you're looking You're like,

2115
02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 1: all right, cool, but then you look at you like,

2116
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:35,839
Speaker 1: wait a minute. These are good parents. These are parents

2117
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 1: who who let their kids listen to the right music.

2118
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 1: And the kids were actually it's like Bob Marley. It

2119
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 1: just it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. So it's know,

2120
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. One thing I did see and hip

2121
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 1: hop is a beautiful thing. I was in Australia and

2122
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:54,720
Speaker 1: the day in Australia that bugged me out is that

2123
02:02:55,160 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: the audience was actually forty percent or young. Wow. Yeah,

2124
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like it was weird a little bit too.

2125
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:08,680
Speaker 1: I had to I had to like lecture them. I

2126
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: got back to the hotel. It was like twenty eighteen

2127
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 1: year old as a hold on seal, girls listen due

2128
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 1: this we did not this is but it's not a

2129
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: boy band, it's he's a grown man. You guys, go home,

2130
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 1: this is weird, take a picture and go home. I

2131
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: how to tell people, get them home. I had to

2132
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: get girls out of vans right. But but the point

2133
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm making is that the attraction of our culture. The

2134
02:03:35,800 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: attraction of the music is timeless, and that's what it's

2135
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be. That's beautiful. It's beautiful. And what we

2136
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 1: got to do and hopefully if we can right is

2137
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 1: not be shy or brave enough to circulate back around

2138
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 1: the globe and touch the people. Because the thing that

2139
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 1: happened is it ain't It won't be because the guys

2140
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 1: said ten year a wash up. The guy who accepts

2141
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 1: that makes his self wash up. He won't come outside,

2142
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 1: he won't show up because he don't you know, he

2143
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 1: hasn't preserved hisself. He don't feel the chi you know

2144
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 1: what I mean? There was recently. So if you do say,

2145
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 1: they don't wan, they don't want to do videos no

2146
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 1: more because because of the physical appearances like nah nah yo, gee, listen,

2147
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,320
Speaker 1: you're still appreciated. You remember least you know least grass Peiri.

2148
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: He might know what that is, yo. You see Lee

2149
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:35,160
Speaker 1: Scrass Prairie Yo. He was he I went to a

2150
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 1: Jamaican festival. Oh his roster ship, that's why he knows.

2151
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 1: He looked like a prophet, right, he was super super

2152
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,960
Speaker 1: great out just you know what you wanted to see him.

2153
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: You wanted to touch that. He was like, yo, hold on,

2154
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: I want to that that's real, but you know so

2155
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 1: so just saying that that the culture will continue to

2156
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:58,480
Speaker 1: attract younger generations. The industry itself thought they could write

2157
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 1: it off, but they thought it was a fat It's

2158
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 1: not a fadest fifty years. It's fifty years old, you know,

2159
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: and it's international, and it's international. It's going to continue.

2160
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 4: And one thing I've said on this show a bunch

2161
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 4: of times is it's the number. It should be considered

2162
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 4: that it is the number one cultural export of the

2163
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 4: United States to the world, and we are not really

2164
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:19,200
Speaker 4: taking advantage of that.

2165
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 3: The culture didn't take advantage of it, right, We didn't.

2166
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 4: And what happens is each region now is saying, all right, well,

2167
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 4: because I've traveled and they in the hip hop heads

2168
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 4: in these countries and said, you guys lost your way

2169
02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 4: hip hop wise, you guys are corporate and you lost it.

2170
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 4: So they're creating their own vibe within themselves, which which

2171
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 4: is just good. Yeah, but we should pay attention and

2172
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 4: keep in touch because it.

2173
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 1: Got from here, right, well, they will come back here too.

2174
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 1: There's the artist called I did an album with an artist.

2175
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 1: Her name is a witch out of Okinawa and she

2176
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 1: kind of Yeah, Okinawa, Japan got a song featuring asaf Berg.

2177
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 1: Who else joined it?

2178
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 3: That's where mister Miyagi from Yeah yeah, hold.

2179
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: On one of the biggest the home of Saki Yo Okinawa. Right,

2180
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 1: check this out, love, they got a saki Okay, check

2181
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 1: this out. So they had a snake that was killing

2182
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: all the people. Oh ship they put the snake in. Yeah,

2183
02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:29,920
Speaker 1: snake was poisonous, killing all the people. They went and

2184
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 1: captured them, all the snakes and they put them in

2185
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: in saki bottles and you drank it. They fermented the

2186
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 1: snake and it's an apple dsiac. I believe that. Let's

2187
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: be drinking and you'd be like, yo, what up? Anyway? Okinawa? Okay?

2188
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 1: This this we at We got.

2189
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 3: Full time slime, Primo a p rock. Now you skipped

2190
02:06:57,520 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 3: a million.

2191
02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: I know that's why you're gonna do it. No, No,

2192
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 1: we can added this, we can we can go back,

2193
02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: we go back. Yeah, you add all this, but Primo

2194
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:11,800
Speaker 1: Pete rock in which in the producer way, that's the

2195
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 1: deep even though Peple Rock do rhyme too, that's that's

2196
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 1: that's deep rock rock. That's that's deep. That's a deep one.

2197
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say both. I'm in this takes really better.

2198
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 1: It's getting better.

2199
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 5: Is different?

2200
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 3: Is it a different one? I'm saying, is it like,

2201
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 3: what's the mixture of this?

2202
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? So so this one here is also. I like

2203
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 1: this one the best. It's still a jumi, but so

2204
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 1: not to go there. This this particular brand makes about

2205
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 1: five levels of saki, all premeal. She's getting more, She's

2206
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 1: moving more and more.

2207
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 3: She didn't even know that, did you know that?

2208
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's moving up and off. Is that the left bottle?

2209
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: We got the ceramic? No, we don't get the ceramic.

2210
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: It's the only one we could. No, No, there's a ceramic. Yeah,

2211
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 1: so that's that's we have it. Yeah, yeah, we move

2212
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: it up the ladder. Okay, okay, let's go.

2213
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 3: Start passing people, I think.

2214
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me let me speak of those who brothers.

2215
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna chop you up anyway. So whatever.

2216
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 3: So p Rock, you know, he pioneered so much for

2217
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 3: us and hip hop.

2218
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 1: Always.

2219
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 3: You know, I love his horn chops was very interesting.

2220
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 1: It was he was an m C. He rock and

2221
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 1: see all smooth, crazy, his his his his his ideas,

2222
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, and then Premiere.

2223
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:53,839
Speaker 3: Premiere actually created a formula.

2224
02:08:56,040 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 1: Premiere made a formula that works every time MS if

2225
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 1: you pay attention to that. A lot of producers wasn't

2226
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 1: able to do that. He created his own formula. You

2227
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: check Pete Rock, you check Residue, check dras. None of

2228
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 1: us don't have a concise formula. I'm trying to figure

2229
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 1: out where you're going with.

2230
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 4: This, Like he's consistent in his formulas. What you're saying

2231
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 4: his formala his fault. Yeah, you don't mean a sound,

2232
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 4: not a sound.

2233
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean it is kind of. It's not a sound

2234
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 1: because this sound was inspired by all his sound changes as.

2235
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:33,600
Speaker 4: We change, right, Okay, okay, but physic it's drum pattern

2236
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 4: is his formal.

2237
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what you mean. Okay,

2238
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 1: his formala.

2239
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:44,959
Speaker 3: Okay, you're saying it's a chop like he has a form.

2240
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 1: He has a formula that you know it is a Premiere.

2241
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's a signature sound for sure.

2242
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not just the sound. Bro if he don't

2243
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: scratch in the hook, but you can still know it's

2244
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,800
Speaker 1: for me, No, it ain't Premire. You're not going to

2245
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 1: find his joint.

2246
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 3: Without a scratching it that he doesn't incorporate his DJ,

2247
02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:10,880
Speaker 3: his his his his his.

2248
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 1: He also keeps I think he keeps one of his

2249
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: old machines still right, he keeps keeps his old equipment

2250
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 1: and he uses that in his formula show every time

2251
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:26,440
Speaker 1: you played one of his tracks, right, you know, Okay,

2252
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 1: that's what you could tell it's Premiere right, right, right,

2253
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 1: But Pete Rock. You got to Michael old p Rock

2254
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 1: did that? You can tell him that. No, Okay, did

2255
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 1: you know Pete Rock when he did? Okay, wait, who

2256
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: did Above the Clouds? That was that's Premier's people. All

2257
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 1: the way they did was the one when it was

2258
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 1: with the racing ship, Start your engines? Yeah, yeah, that's

2259
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:04,440
Speaker 1: Pete Rock.

2260
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 3: Right, But wasn't you on that?

2261
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 1: I want to make it is that Pete Rock, Pete

2262
02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 1: Rock digging. I'm alright, let me say this has made

2263
02:11:18,080 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 1: a formula. Pete Rock is a master. But similar to

2264
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 1: me in a way. We've we've played in multiple chambers,

2265
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:27,800
Speaker 1: you know.

2266
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:28,160
Speaker 10: What I mean?

2267
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: So so Cuban Link, even though it's Riza, it's nothing

2268
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 1: like Old Dirty's album. If you really look at it,

2269
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:43,760
Speaker 1: the sonic quality could be similar, But Dirty album is

2270
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 1: full of bass. Tubman links its strings. It's totally a

2271
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 1: different chamber. Liquid Spars is totally different from crazy. Every

2272
02:11:57,600 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 1: time he says the noises, I know exactly.

2273
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 3: Where who are you compare yourself more to it.

2274
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, I'm not comparing.

2275
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm not comparing.

2276
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:13,120
Speaker 1: You know, I said both because they both are pillars.

2277
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:17,800
Speaker 1: But I want to I want to say, identify the difference.

2278
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:23,920
Speaker 1: It's like nobody's in production quality level matches Doctor Dre

2279
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:30,880
Speaker 1: quality level. If you put on Michael Jackson do and

2280
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 1: you put on Doctor Dre, you don't got to touch

2281
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 1: the knock. Okay, his he made records from the beginning.

2282
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:46,040
Speaker 1: That's at the quality of all the records elanated in history,

2283
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 1: at the highest level. That's ill you put on thirty

2284
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:53,720
Speaker 1: six after Dre. You gotta turn my ship up. You're

2285
02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna get a different experience though you're gonna hear something

2286
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:59,240
Speaker 1: sit there, what the fuck? What the fuck is that?

2287
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2288
02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:04,400
Speaker 3: I turned it up, but you got to turn it out.

2289
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:10,640
Speaker 1: But you could just right now with with with with premire.

2290
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 1: He's also sonically there because he's pushing the drums up front,

2291
02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:17,160
Speaker 1: right he could, but it's still gonna master d right,

2292
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:21,400
Speaker 1: it'll be high. It'd be louder than me, right, similar

2293
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 1: to Pete. But nobody's getting to Dre's va and perfections

2294
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 1: and that that VU though that ship that was moving

2295
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:32,600
Speaker 1: like that, that was on your SSL.

2296
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:36,400
Speaker 3: He mastered that, Yes, d like a scientist, and that

2297
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:37,480
Speaker 3: my ship on the SSL.

2298
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:41,080
Speaker 1: To be honest, it's like this. I pushed it all overay.

2299
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 1: There was like, yo, you can't do that. I'm like,

2300
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 1: why not? When you master this, nigga, they wanna go.

2301
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 1: Now your is gonna sound where it's gonna sound. I

2302
02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:53,040
Speaker 1: don't get you know what I mean?

2303
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:55,520
Speaker 3: But anyway, so, but but did you do that on purpose?

2304
02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:56,400
Speaker 4: For me?

2305
02:13:56,840 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 1: A lot of my ship I did because that was

2306
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 1: the whole allure of For me. A lot of my

2307
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:03,760
Speaker 1: shid I died was purposely. Let me say one thing

2308
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 1: that that's weird about me, and you could this isn't

2309
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:09,600
Speaker 1: part of your question. So for me, right, if you

2310
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 1: take one of my tracks in the studio and you

2311
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:16,640
Speaker 1: came to the board, if you move the fader down,

2312
02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 1: the beat falls apart. It only works because of the

2313
02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:26,480
Speaker 1: post of what I'm of the level that I set

2314
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 1: everything at it's only working because of the posts of

2315
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 1: what I'm Controlling'm controlling the pulse. It's not everything is

2316
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:37,320
Speaker 1: not in key, and everything is not in rhythm, But

2317
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:41,840
Speaker 1: what's the dominating pulse? Makes it make sense? Even you

2318
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:44,280
Speaker 1: go to that same knowledge of God song on Ray

2319
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:49,360
Speaker 1: Kuan's album, it doesn't. If you move something, it's like

2320
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:54,000
Speaker 1: you lost it, Bobby, you dropped it. So that happens

2321
02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:57,480
Speaker 1: people with the engineers, you fucked up. I'm like, Noah,

2322
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:01,040
Speaker 1: while you do that, well, you fucked up, bro, That's

2323
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 1: not what's happening here. You're thinking of the science of it.

2324
02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm working off a post. I was working off a posset,

2325
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:15,960
Speaker 1: So a post means I could go like, but if

2326
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,200
Speaker 1: I put a drum beat pushing that post, it's gonna

2327
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:21,760
Speaker 1: change it. It's gonna change that to a rhythm. But

2328
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:25,080
Speaker 1: then if I put it what the fuck is that?

2329
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 1: But if I put it low right here and move

2330
02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:32,760
Speaker 1: it paying it to the left, it's gonna it's gonna

2331
02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:36,760
Speaker 1: make It's like, what the fuck is going on? And

2332
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 1: then when they end sinking on it, you don't even

2333
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:44,600
Speaker 1: hear nothing because now you're trapped in his flow. A

2334
02:15:44,720 --> 02:15:46,760
Speaker 1: good A good song like that is what the blood

2335
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 1: clock my method? Man go back and check that. But anyway, right,

2336
02:15:56,840 --> 02:15:59,000
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. So the next question,

2337
02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:04,440
Speaker 1: only built for Cuba Links or iron Man? Where does

2338
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:04,640
Speaker 1: this go?

2339
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:04,920
Speaker 4: Bro?

2340
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 1: Only built for Cuba Links. That was easy, That was easy.

2341
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:13,920
Speaker 1: Only Cuba Links is the foundation of iron Man. Okay, okay,

2342
02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 1: iron Man is good? Right, but iron Man falls short? Yeah, yeah,

2343
02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 1: we fall short. But I'm gonna deny it because what

2344
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:24,400
Speaker 1: happened in iron Man is that we have the flood

2345
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:28,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of the album. So after Cuban Links

2346
02:16:28,440 --> 02:16:32,920
Speaker 1: Liquid Sports, we start iron Man, and the second flood happens.

2347
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:37,920
Speaker 1: This flood, though it doesn't destroy floppy disc like the

2348
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:40,879
Speaker 1: one that got sucked up. Now and now the equipment

2349
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:43,520
Speaker 1: is fuck. I got a two itch machine in my crip.

2350
02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 1: Real flood.

2351
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm a sling. I've been through two floods.

2352
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:52,680
Speaker 1: Okay. Once I thought I could have.

2353
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 3: Biblical on.

2354
02:16:56,640 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 1: The flood wasn't coming from under I moved to It

2355
02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:04,160
Speaker 1: came from over. Wow, that's just my own comma that

2356
02:17:04,240 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 1: I have to fix. I had to get a good woman,

2357
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:15,800
Speaker 1: which I have. Now I have a good woman. Now

2358
02:17:16,360 --> 02:17:22,560
Speaker 1: let's take itself for a good So I am man

2359
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:25,160
Speaker 1: was finished and Mystic Studios when you falling mistake you better.

2360
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 1: So we had to leave our own studio and didn't

2361
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 1: go to Mystic. And now seeing my own studio, every

2362
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:36,680
Speaker 1: compressor was already set. When Ghosts came in. He sounded

2363
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:40,840
Speaker 1: like ghosts every time, because I set the settings right.

2364
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:44,560
Speaker 1: Every MC had their own compressor, their own settings. Now

2365
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm in a somebody else studio, it ain't the same.

2366
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:51,080
Speaker 1: And when I leave there tomorrow or god comfort, two days,

2367
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:54,120
Speaker 1: he done change it again. Okay, because somebody else uses

2368
02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:58,200
Speaker 1: s so liquids foil than Cuban relations, which people considered

2369
02:17:58,200 --> 02:18:02,000
Speaker 1: the epitome of my creation. Nothing changed.

2370
02:18:02,959 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 3: It was consistent.

2371
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:06,920
Speaker 1: It was consistent, and so when you hear them, it

2372
02:18:07,520 --> 02:18:13,400
Speaker 1: sounds like him. One thing a lot of put artists

2373
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:19,400
Speaker 1: and producers don't realize is that. And I'll say that

2374
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:21,400
Speaker 1: we all due respect because we're not talking about nobody else,

2375
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:23,880
Speaker 1: of course, But okay, so Snoop goes to no limit.

2376
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:27,480
Speaker 1: That album don't sound like Doctor Dre. You see what

2377
02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So the studio you use, it's just like

2378
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:34,440
Speaker 1: DN was it D M D and D D and

2379
02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:37,480
Speaker 1: D D and D Man. Once some dudes didn't go

2380
02:18:37,560 --> 02:18:38,279
Speaker 1: there no more.

2381
02:18:40,040 --> 02:18:40,760
Speaker 3: And they don't.

2382
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:44,120
Speaker 1: Premiere. He was the one that really made D and

2383
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:46,800
Speaker 1: D sounded. But once once people started going there, they

2384
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:49,400
Speaker 1: all got good. I think, like maybe, but once they

2385
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:52,360
Speaker 1: stopped going there, it's like, oh, there's no D n

2386
02:18:52,440 --> 02:18:56,640
Speaker 1: D there. Sometimes the studio itself is part of the

2387
02:18:57,160 --> 02:19:00,640
Speaker 1: vibe and so on. So you say accumulations iron Man.

2388
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:07,360
Speaker 1: Iron Man was finished and mystic and to me, we

2389
02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:12,520
Speaker 1: we forced our hand on compromised. So anyway that this

2390
02:19:12,640 --> 02:19:15,760
Speaker 1: is this is a great as for me as a fan. Yeah, yeah,

2391
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad that the fans get to hear this, but

2392
02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:20,119
Speaker 1: this is me as a fan.

2393
02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:24,720
Speaker 3: Capadana, master Killer, this got.

2394
02:19:26,080 --> 02:19:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't get that this is this is.

2395
02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 3: Sha Shall we talk about them a little bit? Yeah,

2396
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:40,959
Speaker 3: hell yeah, man yo legends. By the way, master Killer

2397
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:42,640
Speaker 3: just dropped the album today and I'm on.

2398
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 1: The Killer. Let me just take you something. I haven't

2399
02:19:49,959 --> 02:19:53,000
Speaker 1: ribbed this so long that when when I heard my

2400
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,040
Speaker 1: own verse, I was like, how did he get this?

2401
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2402
02:19:56,680 --> 02:19:57,080
Speaker 5: I think.

2403
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:01,120
Speaker 1: I was like, nor are you going? I heard that?

2404
02:20:06,879 --> 02:20:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, album was dope because I had. What I did

2405
02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:12,120
Speaker 3: was just listen to it.

2406
02:20:12,200 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 1: As I was getting a haircut, I listened to my

2407
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:17,240
Speaker 1: point obviously, and I mean first because I was I was,

2408
02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:20,040
Speaker 1: I was amazed at me. I was like, really still

2409
02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:23,000
Speaker 1: got it? So and then the album just kept playing

2410
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:24,920
Speaker 1: and I was just like, damn, bro got some joy

2411
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:28,560
Speaker 1: from it, like like hip hop is still making hip hop.

2412
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:31,039
Speaker 1: It's just we gotta we gotta search for it. Now.

2413
02:20:31,120 --> 02:20:32,960
Speaker 1: You gotta search for it. Now you know what we

2414
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:35,240
Speaker 1: could do. We gotta search for it. So we always

2415
02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:38,320
Speaker 1: had to search for it, right, you know reality I

2416
02:20:38,480 --> 02:20:42,160
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that just took me to sound view projects.

2417
02:20:42,879 --> 02:20:44,520
Speaker 1: That's a long ride here.

2418
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:46,960
Speaker 3: Hip hop, you're singing in a different way.

2419
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:48,280
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. Yeah, it's a search.

2420
02:20:48,480 --> 02:20:50,600
Speaker 4: It's like going from kin Do. So we used to

2421
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 4: go to Winwood to all the hip hop jams and

2422
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:58,040
Speaker 4: Winwood you know w kN do to to to the

2423
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:00,520
Speaker 4: w Hotel. But I'm telling you, you know, I'm telling

2424
02:21:00,520 --> 02:21:04,119
Speaker 4: you from Kendo. We was going to Winwood where Zoolo

2425
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 4: Nation used to throw their parties at.

2426
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:08,480
Speaker 3: I say, I'm trying to tell you the distance.

2427
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:10,760
Speaker 1: Distance I'm not saying like I'm.

2428
02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:12,480
Speaker 4: Telling you that's that's the equivalent of us having to

2429
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:15,240
Speaker 4: travel experience, further experience.

2430
02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what kindle when yeah, in the ferry man

2431
02:21:22,400 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 1: to get to get they could go underserved to get

2432
02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 1: to get the sound view from the Staten Island minimum

2433
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:34,600
Speaker 1: two hours two and a half hours minimum minimum. Listen,

2434
02:21:35,080 --> 02:21:38,400
Speaker 1: it's the Bronx when the Bronx was like burn down

2435
02:21:38,440 --> 02:21:42,560
Speaker 1: Bronx not not just that from there, Yo, you'll see listen, bro.

2436
02:21:43,240 --> 02:21:46,879
Speaker 1: People don't understand this life of what hip hop went through.

2437
02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 1: Hip Hop went through.

2438
02:21:50,800 --> 02:22:01,679
Speaker 8: Topads on the floor, blood, crime, cops, crooked, uh cry fire.

2439
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 1: Hip hop and lived. And now you see somebody in

2440
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Korea you know what I mean exactly. You know, it's

2441
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:15,880
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. What hip hop did is this and

2442
02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 1: he am I about to digress a little bit. So,

2443
02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:22,280
Speaker 1: so a law is merciful. Let's just know that, right.

2444
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:25,720
Speaker 1: And we all have arm leg leg arm head. So

2445
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:28,039
Speaker 1: don't when you hear alaw, don't get scared. Some people,

2446
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:31,400
Speaker 1: Oh nah, we all have arm leg leg arm had

2447
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:35,720
Speaker 1: that image. But a law is merciful and he finds

2448
02:22:35,800 --> 02:22:39,560
Speaker 1: ways to deliver mercy. You know what I mean. Hip

2449
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Hop is a mercy. The Quran was a mercy. They

2450
02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 1: said it was a mercy. It says, a law gave

2451
02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:46,240
Speaker 1: the Koran to Muhammad as a mercy the man, so

2452
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:49,440
Speaker 1: he could know what's good and what's bad and how

2453
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:51,640
Speaker 1: to navigate through this. And it's a book of not

2454
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:57,840
Speaker 1: just spirituality. It's political, it's business, it science, it's husbandry,

2455
02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:04,280
Speaker 1: it's wives, it's inherit. This right hip hop comes to

2456
02:23:04,400 --> 02:23:09,280
Speaker 1: our community as a saving force. It first saves us

2457
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:14,560
Speaker 1: in New York, but then it continues to move. Okay,

2458
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:17,560
Speaker 1: it's okay, we saved these guys. Let's save some West

2459
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:20,720
Speaker 1: coast guys. Let's get the terminals first. Okay, Now it's

2460
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:24,039
Speaker 1: get in the middle. Let's go to the south. Now,

2461
02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:28,280
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Do you hear the new Indian

2462
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:32,520
Speaker 1: m CSI now is out there?

2463
02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:36,080
Speaker 3: The Vietnamese MCS.

2464
02:23:36,520 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 1: Yo, listen I went to When I went to I'm

2465
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 1: one of the first MCS to ever perform in Egypt.

2466
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:43,039
Speaker 1: You will never know that because they don't be They

2467
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:47,720
Speaker 1: didn't record it, they didn't allow it. It was unallowed.

2468
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:54,320
Speaker 1: I took it. Me and Sean Paul, right, what a combination, separate,

2469
02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:55,320
Speaker 1: separate times.

2470
02:23:57,040 --> 02:23:57,360
Speaker 3: Together.

2471
02:23:58,520 --> 02:24:00,440
Speaker 1: But I was just saying it was like it didn't

2472
02:24:00,480 --> 02:24:04,360
Speaker 1: exist there. Now it exists, So hip hop has went

2473
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:07,480
Speaker 1: and saved all these families. You go to South Africa

2474
02:24:07,959 --> 02:24:10,240
Speaker 1: and you see a brother pull up with a Bentley.

2475
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:14,040
Speaker 1: How you get that? Hip hop not saying that the

2476
02:24:14,120 --> 02:24:17,640
Speaker 1: Bentley is the is the thing he should have gotten, right,

2477
02:24:17,720 --> 02:24:19,160
Speaker 1: But when you get money, the first thing you do

2478
02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:23,000
Speaker 1: is get the luxury to appreciate the money. Mahamad Ali

2479
02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:26,320
Speaker 1: said it. They said to Muhammad Ali. They said, Mohammad Ali,

2480
02:24:26,440 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 1: you talk about the black man and all the power

2481
02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:31,800
Speaker 1: he should have, and you're trying to to, you know,

2482
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:35,160
Speaker 1: raise the constuts of your people, and you want them to,

2483
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, not be caught up into the white man's world.

2484
02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:42,720
Speaker 1: But you, Muhammad, you have a Bentley. How do you

2485
02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:47,120
Speaker 1: justify that? He said, no, no, no, I have true Bentley's,

2486
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:51,320
Speaker 1: he said. He said, because my people got to see

2487
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 1: that what I do make something mean something. They see

2488
02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:58,000
Speaker 1: a value. They don't want me coming over ripped clothes

2489
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:01,200
Speaker 1: and trying to talk to them. That's that was Jesus job.

2490
02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:06,160
Speaker 1: He came over. You know, you know, so Petland, you

2491
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:08,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The job. The job now was

2492
02:25:08,560 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 1: to have a magnetism. Hip hop is that magnetism, It's

2493
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:16,080
Speaker 1: that conduit. It's that, yo, and I see so many

2494
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 1: of us blessed by it, you know what I mean

2495
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:22,080
Speaker 1: that we ought to be thankful. I'm gonna take a

2496
02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:24,800
Speaker 1: moment right now if you guys don't mind toast the

2497
02:25:24,879 --> 02:25:26,760
Speaker 1: hip hop, toast the hip hop. Oh god damn it,

2498
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:33,800
Speaker 1: none onless here would be here without hip hop exactly.

2499
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely looks. We talked about his voice earlier, right, and

2500
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:43,920
Speaker 1: and and you know we all dance to his fucking joint.

2501
02:25:44,840 --> 02:25:49,320
Speaker 1: What what we all know? He threw elbow, He puts

2502
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:51,200
Speaker 1: people out our way when that shit came on, right,

2503
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:56,480
Speaker 1: And that was a voice, but he's hip hop and

2504
02:25:56,640 --> 02:25:58,520
Speaker 1: his voice wasn't limited to the music.

2505
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:02,200
Speaker 3: That's what's happening to hip hop for us, Elder Statesman.

2506
02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:04,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to just be the music. And I'm

2507
02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:06,360
Speaker 1: glad that Massacilor got a new album. And you heard

2508
02:26:06,400 --> 02:26:11,119
Speaker 1: your joint and it's called balance. Balance, balance, okay, yes, asked?

2509
02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:15,600
Speaker 1: I said, why balance, Samuel, He said, Yo, God, balance

2510
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:18,480
Speaker 1: is always needed, it is. That's that's the beauty of

2511
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:21,640
Speaker 1: hip hop when it's balanced, exactly. And we can agree

2512
02:26:21,720 --> 02:26:23,920
Speaker 1: right now it feels unbalanced.

2513
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,120
Speaker 3: Unbalanced, but you have all the ship in it.

2514
02:26:26,320 --> 02:26:30,160
Speaker 4: The fuckery and the righteousness exactly as long as it's

2515
02:26:30,200 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 4: balanced exactly.

2516
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Give me the blue and the red pill choice, but

2517
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 1: give me some wisdom behind my choice. And that's what.

2518
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:39,720
Speaker 3: That's what, that's what. That's what I hope that we

2519
02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:40,440
Speaker 3: can provide.

2520
02:26:40,480 --> 02:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I've been drinking that. You know, those w's kind of

2521
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:48,199
Speaker 1: a little bit there. You drank the more you should

2522
02:26:48,520 --> 02:27:01,240
Speaker 1: any I believe you own a w. It's getting better, better, colder,

2523
02:27:01,240 --> 02:27:01,880
Speaker 1: it gets the better.

2524
02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:03,840
Speaker 3: Yes, but our bodies is not getting better.

2525
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:14,400
Speaker 1: But okay everywhere. But she's like, he's up a little bit.

2526
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Give me another one. You're good. She got. What's your

2527
02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:19,560
Speaker 1: next one?

2528
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good, you got? You got the ceramics

2529
02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:25,080
Speaker 3: for real?

2530
02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, get the surrounded. I want the ceramics business. N

2531
02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:31,600
Speaker 4: W A public enemy?

2532
02:27:32,280 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 1: Wow? No, no, no, no, no no, you just give

2533
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:36,480
Speaker 1: a million relaxed bud.

2534
02:27:38,600 --> 02:27:40,440
Speaker 3: You can twist it. You want to twist that one twist.

2535
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:44,160
Speaker 3: Here's my favorite question on this whole show period.

2536
02:27:44,280 --> 02:27:47,640
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. I'm not I might as well

2537
02:27:47,720 --> 02:27:53,880
Speaker 1: ask him n w A or Wu Tang clan.

2538
02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:54,879
Speaker 5: No, we don't.

2539
02:27:54,959 --> 02:27:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't.

2540
02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:56,720
Speaker 3: I personally don't like you, guys.

2541
02:27:57,040 --> 02:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't like this question because of the different era.

2542
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:03,840
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is it's the same impact even

2543
02:28:03,879 --> 02:28:07,880
Speaker 1: though it's different errors. Like what what what n w

2544
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:12,520
Speaker 1: A did for for for Los Angeles, California West Coast

2545
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:17,000
Speaker 1: period was changed everything. They made people start wearing curls,

2546
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:20,280
Speaker 1: They made people start wearing bandanas, they made people start,

2547
02:28:20,560 --> 02:28:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, krip walking, gang banging. Well, Wu tang, did

2548
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:27,439
Speaker 1: you made black motherfuckers want to be Chinese Japanese?

2549
02:28:27,840 --> 02:28:28,880
Speaker 3: You made motherfuckers?

2550
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:31,320
Speaker 1: We're in hold on man, man, it's like you you

2551
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:36,640
Speaker 1: changed the culture like like so to me, the impact,

2552
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the errors not when we put this

2553
02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:42,240
Speaker 1: question together. And by the way, it's not our question.

2554
02:28:42,760 --> 02:28:45,120
Speaker 1: These are these two guys. There's a cocaine section in Colombia.

2555
02:28:52,840 --> 02:28:55,520
Speaker 3: Okay, we're in Miami, Miami.

2556
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:58,119
Speaker 1: Would it be like the Colombia.

2557
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:00,960
Speaker 3: Like to ask this question.

2558
02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:03,280
Speaker 1: It's my favorite question because the reason why I like

2559
02:29:03,320 --> 02:29:05,960
Speaker 1: to ask it is because I'd be wanting people to

2560
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:09,840
Speaker 1: understand I'm not asking the errors or who came before

2561
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:13,440
Speaker 1: who or who influenced too. What I'm saying is the impact.

2562
02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:15,280
Speaker 1: But you didn't ask it to start with. It was

2563
02:29:15,320 --> 02:29:18,600
Speaker 1: these guys question. But I thought it was genius.

2564
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:20,440
Speaker 4: But my argument, this is my argument why I don't

2565
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:22,960
Speaker 4: like the question, because I feel if those are my

2566
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:25,600
Speaker 4: two fair groups, n w A and Public Enemy, I

2567
02:29:25,640 --> 02:29:31,000
Speaker 4: feel like they're the same energy, different sides of the spectrum.

2568
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:34,000
Speaker 4: They actually are the same things, but on the different

2569
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:37,039
Speaker 4: sides of the spectrum. In that era, they provided us

2570
02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:40,160
Speaker 4: with the balance. Right, that's what I love about that

2571
02:29:40,360 --> 02:29:42,800
Speaker 4: question being then too. But when I think it's Wu

2572
02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Tang versus w I think it's off balance.

2573
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:47,280
Speaker 1: And that's sense. I respect that, But let me let

2574
02:29:47,320 --> 02:29:48,879
Speaker 1: me just comment and you guys can chop it up

2575
02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:55,560
Speaker 1: how you want. Right, So Public Enemy is inspiring in

2576
02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:59,800
Speaker 1: w A. N w A is not inspiring Public Enemy. Seriously,

2577
02:30:00,320 --> 02:30:03,360
Speaker 1: run DMC is inspiring in w A. N w A

2578
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:06,840
Speaker 1: is not inspiring one DMC. But that's because the New

2579
02:30:06,920 --> 02:30:10,400
Speaker 1: York is the mecca of hip hop. So they got

2580
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:12,400
Speaker 1: to fly to New York and find the breakbeasts and

2581
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:14,720
Speaker 1: bring them doctor Cali. They can't find them of those

2582
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:18,040
Speaker 1: in those record stores, right, But where n w A

2583
02:30:18,240 --> 02:30:19,800
Speaker 1: brought the hip hop and when they brought to the

2584
02:30:19,879 --> 02:30:23,160
Speaker 1: coach is undeniable. And we don't have Kendrick at the

2585
02:30:23,240 --> 02:30:26,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. If n w A don't exist, Okay.

2586
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:28,560
Speaker 4: And maybe if Public Enemy don't exist as well, because

2587
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:30,800
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lineage there too as well.

2588
02:30:31,240 --> 02:30:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue that. But n w A gives us

2589
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:38,600
Speaker 1: doctor dre yep, yeah, well yeah, WA gives us ice cube.

2590
02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:40,680
Speaker 1: If we don't got ice cube, I don't make movies

2591
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:49,080
Speaker 1: straight up, straight up, right, and they continue to go

2592
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:51,200
Speaker 1: to the brain that goes then we get snooping me

2593
02:30:51,520 --> 02:30:57,680
Speaker 1: so so much. Right, So in Public Enemy is is

2594
02:30:57,760 --> 02:31:01,960
Speaker 1: the consciousness public Enemy asked? Did that first? They did

2595
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:04,120
Speaker 1: the toy with anthrax before any of us did a

2596
02:31:04,840 --> 02:31:09,800
Speaker 1: rock and roll combination besides one DMC. Right, but now

2597
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:12,440
Speaker 1: you throw Wu Tang into the equation, and I don't

2598
02:31:12,440 --> 02:31:16,640
Speaker 1: mind speaking on Wu Tang in this equation, right, what

2599
02:31:16,800 --> 02:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Wu Tang does is this, right, NWA influence is actually

2600
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:28,720
Speaker 1: the influence of hip hop right now? New York is

2601
02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:35,480
Speaker 1: not selling records. Okay, name the top hip hop artists

2602
02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:40,800
Speaker 1: in New York at the time. Juice Crew, you got

2603
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:43,360
Speaker 1: no no. By the time you get to ninety two

2604
02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:45,280
Speaker 1: ninety three, Jewice Crew can't sell records.

2605
02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:50,680
Speaker 4: Big Daddy KMEE record is eighty eight to ninety Well,

2606
02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:52,800
Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to take the lineage, yeah, but.

2607
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:57,240
Speaker 1: They but no juice. So we get a platinum Big Biz,

2608
02:31:57,840 --> 02:32:01,040
Speaker 1: we get a gold knee, we get a cat, we

2609
02:32:01,120 --> 02:32:03,840
Speaker 1: get a gold cane, we gotta we got a platinum

2610
02:32:03,959 --> 02:32:06,520
Speaker 1: carreras one. We got a platinum Rock Kim in the eighties.

2611
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Now in the nineties, none of them is selling platinums.

2612
02:32:12,440 --> 02:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Travers coming, Leaders is coming, Gang Starts coming, Traver is

2613
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna give you gold. Nobody's giving you platinums unless it's poppy.

2614
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:27,400
Speaker 1: What about what aboutation? Damn? Like I said, they come

2615
02:32:27,560 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 1: and give us a platinum. That's why I said Trench

2616
02:32:30,879 --> 02:32:36,040
Speaker 1: and Onyx are a new way of energy that comes

2617
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:40,560
Speaker 1: up exactly okay, And still he gives us a platinum

2618
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:47,680
Speaker 1: within for poppy songs, which wasn't poppy but West Coast

2619
02:32:48,000 --> 02:32:54,320
Speaker 1: even to load Young MC. Everybody double platinum, platinum, platinum platinums.

2620
02:32:55,240 --> 02:32:58,000
Speaker 1: And so even though Tretch and triv and everybody are

2621
02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 1: giving us this beautiful thing black Moon, you go through

2622
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:09,199
Speaker 1: that whole underground movement, you're not cracking three hundred thousand cells.

2623
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Didn't do that. E P M D now is going

2624
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:17,279
Speaker 1: ahead different hold on, but eld on respect the EPM

2625
02:33:17,440 --> 02:33:19,080
Speaker 1: No Depth.

2626
02:33:18,840 --> 02:33:23,080
Speaker 3: Squad is like my cousins squad. And yeah, those my cousins.

2627
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's declining and the and and let

2628
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:31,800
Speaker 1: me say to you, and the investment is different because

2629
02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:33,720
Speaker 1: because look, even like Once of Again l L is

2630
02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:36,400
Speaker 1: one of the greatest, he's he's he's making to do

2631
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:40,080
Speaker 1: all this. But I was just saying the average investment

2632
02:33:40,320 --> 02:33:44,960
Speaker 1: in hip hop, right, Like, let's say, what's your first

2633
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:49,119
Speaker 1: record deal? Look, if you're Penalty records terrible uh economic?

2634
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:52,800
Speaker 1: What was that five thousand dollars? Okay that you know

2635
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:59,920
Speaker 1: that five thousand dollars. Okay, Let's say Wu Tang first album.

2636
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:00,360
Speaker 1: You know what?

2637
02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:06,760
Speaker 3: It was sixty thousand, sixty thousand.

2638
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Dollars for everybody for the whole album. Bro, nobody got

2639
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:14,240
Speaker 1: no money. No, that was we lost money on that.

2640
02:34:15,959 --> 02:34:17,400
Speaker 1: That's what you understand this for a moment, just to

2641
02:34:17,440 --> 02:34:21,880
Speaker 1: get a little culture thing here. Even Method Man's album,

2642
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:25,520
Speaker 1: if you take Method Man's album, his videos and everything,

2643
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:28,400
Speaker 1: you're not gonna spend no more than five hundred thousand

2644
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:32,560
Speaker 1: dollars he makes. He's gonna bring in twenty million dollars.

2645
02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Wutan is gonna bring in twenty million dollars. Okay, it's

2646
02:34:39,400 --> 02:34:44,039
Speaker 1: business now. On the East Coast, it's business now, it's

2647
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:48,960
Speaker 1: marketing business. If the Wu Tang doesn't come and sell

2648
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:51,640
Speaker 1: a million records on a budget like that, there's no

2649
02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:54,720
Speaker 1: business in hip hop on the East Coast. You're tying

2650
02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:57,080
Speaker 1: on the business side, not just in the culture. It

2651
02:34:57,160 --> 02:35:03,119
Speaker 1: goes both ways. Because now you got the guy who

2652
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:07,000
Speaker 1: like the dude told me to my face, bro those

2653
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:12,240
Speaker 1: hoodies that will never work. So take the hoodies off. Wow.

2654
02:35:12,320 --> 02:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Because if you go to the west beyond Nwa, when

2655
02:35:17,200 --> 02:35:20,880
Speaker 1: you get tone and young and all these other dudes, Dusa,

2656
02:35:21,360 --> 02:35:30,400
Speaker 1: Dusa are basically prince raquines. It's packaged. They've tried to

2657
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:34,520
Speaker 1: package me. It didn't work. Wu Tank is unpackaged. So

2658
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:38,760
Speaker 1: if I become unpackaged, he could be unpackaged. Everybody coming

2659
02:35:38,800 --> 02:35:43,440
Speaker 1: after us could be unpackaged because it's not a package now,

2660
02:35:44,240 --> 02:35:48,640
Speaker 1: it's something else happening. So the impact becomes a similar

2661
02:35:48,680 --> 02:35:51,520
Speaker 1: the same. Of course, the Asian culture is a whole

2662
02:35:51,560 --> 02:35:56,040
Speaker 1: new thing, right, But then no many brothers started running

2663
02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:59,840
Speaker 1: to the mosque and studying mathematics. You know what I mean?

2664
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:03,359
Speaker 1: You know how many dudes as the rule movement is happening,

2665
02:36:03,959 --> 02:36:07,400
Speaker 1: and the college kids and the blacks and the whites

2666
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:09,600
Speaker 1: and the Spanish are all kind of vibing into this

2667
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:11,960
Speaker 1: new thing. And Hot ninety seven is changing from a

2668
02:36:12,320 --> 02:36:16,480
Speaker 1: club radio station to a hip hop radio station and

2669
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:19,320
Speaker 1: the noose number one song on Hot ninety seven Method Man,

2670
02:36:20,440 --> 02:36:27,000
Speaker 1: it's changing the chie Now meth comes and you get

2671
02:36:27,120 --> 02:36:32,400
Speaker 1: a fucking a hip hop Grammy all I needed. If

2672
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:36,120
Speaker 1: you go back to your hip hop duets, you can't

2673
02:36:36,240 --> 02:36:43,240
Speaker 1: name ten of them. That's not just a Grammy winner.

2674
02:36:43,879 --> 02:36:48,520
Speaker 1: They sold two million copies bro the single at that time, Yo,

2675
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:54,000
Speaker 1: the single Method Man single at that time was competing

2676
02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:57,520
Speaker 1: with We Are the World in single cells. Wow, as

2677
02:36:57,560 --> 02:37:00,680
Speaker 1: far as the measurement, as far as the measurement. So

2678
02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:03,080
Speaker 1: something different is happening on this side of the world now.

2679
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:07,119
Speaker 1: So now it's like there's money over here. It's been vests.

2680
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:09,880
Speaker 1: So then and then once Cuberlee came in, like Yo,

2681
02:37:10,879 --> 02:37:14,400
Speaker 1: everybody started saying the wool Gambinos and now we're taking

2682
02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:19,880
Speaker 1: on identities. The identities changed the whole hip hop landscape.

2683
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:25,840
Speaker 1: The identities are still existing. So now and it's a platinum,

2684
02:37:26,440 --> 02:37:29,240
Speaker 1: it ain't like a two hundred thousand sellar it's been

2685
02:37:29,400 --> 02:37:32,199
Speaker 1: four or five hundred grand and make ten million dollars.

2686
02:37:32,240 --> 02:37:36,440
Speaker 1: It's good business. So the impact is the same thing

2687
02:37:36,480 --> 02:37:39,400
Speaker 1: that Dre is doing on his side of town. Right,

2688
02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:44,720
Speaker 1: He's making star after star after star after star, and

2689
02:37:44,840 --> 02:37:47,360
Speaker 1: we're doing it. But the thing that's happening different is differently.

2690
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:51,760
Speaker 1: You know. It's almost that I said. I started this

2691
02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:56,480
Speaker 1: by saying, hip hop is a mercy. A law gave

2692
02:37:56,680 --> 02:37:59,480
Speaker 1: us a mercy. I started from there. Then you went

2693
02:37:59,520 --> 02:38:01,080
Speaker 1: into the two different groups. I'm telling to let you

2694
02:38:01,160 --> 02:38:03,160
Speaker 1: know that. Then he said, he said he had Wou

2695
02:38:03,240 --> 02:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Tang and n w A. It's like, yo, they both

2696
02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:10,880
Speaker 1: had to do a job. They both had to do

2697
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:15,440
Speaker 1: a job. Okay, in the measure of that job. You

2698
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 1: have a guy at the super Bowl. But hold on,

2699
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:21,680
Speaker 1: who's the guy that hired him? Another guy who hired

2700
02:38:21,720 --> 02:38:25,360
Speaker 1: him jay Z. Jay Z don't exist if Wotang don't exist.

2701
02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:31,120
Speaker 1: But God, and I'm not saying that with an ego.

2702
02:38:31,760 --> 02:38:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying if we didn't come with cream and slow

2703
02:38:34,760 --> 02:38:37,480
Speaker 1: it down and put that culture into it. Because at

2704
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:41,720
Speaker 1: the time he's he's he's he's not makes jay Z exactly.

2705
02:38:42,600 --> 02:38:45,520
Speaker 1: And of course the number of respected him because he

2706
02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:49,560
Speaker 1: took it, took it, and he took it and multiplied

2707
02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:53,000
Speaker 1: it into what he does. But it happens as Jay said,

2708
02:38:53,440 --> 02:38:55,959
Speaker 1: Jay don't come. I know Jay is a dirty name

2709
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 1: right now, but no, never than me. I love it.

2710
02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:01,920
Speaker 1: I love that brother, a man, love his family. I

2711
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:04,120
Speaker 1: wish his family would have just been a family. But

2712
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:08,840
Speaker 1: life is unpredictable, okay, But he don't exist. If we

2713
02:39:08,920 --> 02:39:11,680
Speaker 1: don't exist, right, and if he don't exist, you got

2714
02:39:11,760 --> 02:39:14,680
Speaker 1: a whole nother slew a lineage that don't exist. So

2715
02:39:14,959 --> 02:39:18,200
Speaker 1: and so you go to Dre and you go to

2716
02:39:18,280 --> 02:39:21,680
Speaker 1: the Abbot, you get something special, but you can say thing.

2717
02:39:21,680 --> 02:39:24,520
Speaker 1: You go to Chuck d and you go to uh

2718
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:27,279
Speaker 1: recall and Andre and you get something special.

2719
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:31,640
Speaker 4: To me public enemy ice cube, American's most wanted. That's

2720
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:32,959
Speaker 4: a trajectory in its own.

2721
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:36,440
Speaker 1: But something is happening, bro, that when the historians really studied,

2722
02:39:36,560 --> 02:39:39,520
Speaker 1: after we all leave here, they're gonna go, holy shit,

2723
02:39:40,200 --> 02:39:43,720
Speaker 1: these dudes, meaning all of us, including yourself, bro, as

2724
02:39:43,760 --> 02:39:49,119
Speaker 1: you know, these dudes want the new Bible in the Bible, right,

2725
02:39:50,080 --> 02:39:51,960
Speaker 1: somebody could google I don't know all the numbers of

2726
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the books in the Bible. Sixty six books or something

2727
02:39:56,160 --> 02:40:01,440
Speaker 1: like that. Somebody google that, you know what the Google?

2728
02:40:01,520 --> 02:40:07,760
Speaker 1: Motherfucker Google? Who said six? Who talking my right books?

2729
02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:14,680
Speaker 1: I remember, mister Lee touch on the computer. I don't

2730
02:40:14,720 --> 02:40:20,959
Speaker 1: believe you. I don't know. I beat Google. Google. Yes,

2731
02:40:26,320 --> 02:40:30,360
Speaker 1: I was faster than Google, I know it. Right, the

2732
02:40:30,440 --> 02:40:34,960
Speaker 1: point being made, I know sixty six books. Right, there's

2733
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:36,959
Speaker 1: a book in there called the Book of Oprah Dyah?

2734
02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:41,400
Speaker 1: Is it our first ceramic? Let's talk about this. Hold on, man,

2735
02:40:41,879 --> 02:40:44,320
Speaker 1: you poor, Let's talk about that bottle. Yeah, get it

2736
02:40:44,360 --> 02:40:47,480
Speaker 1: back for a moment. Okay, I'm I'm sorry to direct.

2737
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you coming, like we already said, direct

2738
02:40:53,080 --> 02:40:59,240
Speaker 1: direct cat me. Let me get this spiritual thing about.

2739
02:40:59,840 --> 02:41:03,360
Speaker 1: So in the Bible there's sixty six books. You probably

2740
02:41:03,400 --> 02:41:06,560
Speaker 1: all know the Book of Genesis. Yeah, you know the

2741
02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:10,160
Speaker 1: New Testament, Book of John Mark Luke and all those

2742
02:41:10,160 --> 02:41:14,360
Speaker 1: good brothers. You might know. Uh, does anybody know the

2743
02:41:14,400 --> 02:41:23,959
Speaker 1: Book of Opah Dyah Opa Lokaa opadya Obadiah. Okay, check

2744
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:26,920
Speaker 1: it out. So I like that because part of the

2745
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:33,720
Speaker 1: Testament is listen, bro. He might he might have three pages.

2746
02:41:33,760 --> 02:41:35,760
Speaker 1: It might not be three pages. It's not a book

2747
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:37,959
Speaker 1: at all. It's in the No, it's called the Book

2748
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:40,320
Speaker 1: of Obadiah, but it's a page. You in the book.

2749
02:41:40,400 --> 02:41:43,080
Speaker 1: You in the book, and you get a book. But

2750
02:41:43,240 --> 02:41:47,760
Speaker 1: he only got some a few bars in there. He's fished,

2751
02:41:48,160 --> 02:41:52,160
Speaker 1: but he's in the book. He's in the book. In

2752
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:54,560
Speaker 1: the book, he's six. So when we think about all

2753
02:41:54,600 --> 02:41:58,480
Speaker 1: of us, bro, right, were in that book, and some

2754
02:41:58,600 --> 02:42:01,920
Speaker 1: of us will be you know, n w A. Well,

2755
02:42:01,959 --> 02:42:05,520
Speaker 1: he got forty fifty pages, moving forty fifty pages, somebody's

2756
02:42:05,520 --> 02:42:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to open die.

2757
02:42:08,600 --> 02:42:14,480
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, but he's gonna be in the book.

2758
02:42:14,520 --> 02:42:15,640
Speaker 3: And that's what hip hop is doing.

2759
02:42:16,080 --> 02:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Yes, we're making trust me, bro, When you go back

2760
02:42:20,160 --> 02:42:22,360
Speaker 1: and bring all these fucking lyrics together and you bring

2761
02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:25,039
Speaker 1: all this shit and this, historians gotta study the times

2762
02:42:25,640 --> 02:42:30,520
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty, right, I'm seventy three. I think him

2763
02:42:30,520 --> 02:42:32,280
Speaker 1: a seventy three. Yeah, Yah, let's think my mom said

2764
02:42:32,520 --> 02:42:34,960
Speaker 1: eighty because I was going with the popularity or the

2765
02:42:35,040 --> 02:42:37,640
Speaker 1: first platinum record. But let's say from nineteen seventy three

2766
02:42:38,440 --> 02:42:44,480
Speaker 1: to wherever those spaceships find it, the most information they're

2767
02:42:44,520 --> 02:42:47,720
Speaker 1: gonna gain it's gonna come from hip hop. Okay, see

2768
02:42:47,800 --> 02:42:51,600
Speaker 1: before soul and rock. Was given information because you've been

2769
02:42:51,640 --> 02:42:55,320
Speaker 1: listening to Stevie Wonder as as as long as full time,

2770
02:42:55,560 --> 02:42:59,840
Speaker 1: like he got some bars, but in hip hop the

2771
02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:01,320
Speaker 1: type of information.

2772
02:43:01,959 --> 02:43:05,360
Speaker 3: I grew up on the crime side, the New York

2773
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Times side.

2774
02:43:06,360 --> 02:43:11,240
Speaker 1: Staying alive was no job's second hand mom's bouncing little man.

2775
02:43:11,600 --> 02:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Then we moved a shout the lad a young youth

2776
02:43:15,160 --> 02:43:19,160
Speaker 1: rocking to go too only way and I'm begating g off,

2777
02:43:19,480 --> 02:43:24,640
Speaker 1: drug Lou, hold it six bars, No, six bars is

2778
02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:28,880
Speaker 1: ten years. I started on the crime side, the New

2779
02:43:28,959 --> 02:43:32,840
Speaker 1: York Time side. That's already within a frame right. Staying

2780
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:36,600
Speaker 1: alive was no jobs. He had second hand clothing. His

2781
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:39,880
Speaker 1: mother left his father, so now they moved to Staten Island.

2782
02:43:40,600 --> 02:43:45,560
Speaker 1: He's a young youth rocking the little gold tooth, had

2783
02:43:45,560 --> 02:43:47,720
Speaker 1: a polo goose and the only way he began to

2784
02:43:47,840 --> 02:43:51,120
Speaker 1: g off was drug Lou. You know, Washington kid go

2785
02:43:51,240 --> 02:43:57,360
Speaker 1: from a married family struggle to a single mother family.

2786
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:02,039
Speaker 1: So now a criminal in this street selling drugs, trying

2787
02:44:02,080 --> 02:44:04,360
Speaker 1: to make a living in six lines.

2788
02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:11,800
Speaker 3: And that said, so when it's when the spaceship.

2789
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:18,840
Speaker 1: Niggas being robbing the pall metal, Yeah, Paul Metals in

2790
02:44:18,879 --> 02:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Brooklyn for us in Miami.

2791
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:21,680
Speaker 3: We took it to Paul Metal.

2792
02:44:21,720 --> 02:44:26,480
Speaker 1: We have a pal Metal, but.

2793
02:44:26,520 --> 02:44:28,879
Speaker 3: He said, pushing a big joint from down south.

2794
02:44:29,360 --> 02:44:32,640
Speaker 1: That's what we thought. No, no, but pal Metal is

2795
02:44:32,680 --> 02:44:38,360
Speaker 1: a spot in Brooklyn and the big joint from down

2796
02:44:38,600 --> 02:44:41,440
Speaker 1: It makes sense though, it's like a big joint from

2797
02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:45,199
Speaker 1: now south. But the big joint is the car because

2798
02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:47,520
Speaker 1: in the old days, New York niggas will go to

2799
02:44:47,640 --> 02:44:51,119
Speaker 1: Virginia the bottle whip for less taxes and drive it back.

2800
02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:53,400
Speaker 1: So now you got to Ben's nigga, but you get

2801
02:44:53,440 --> 02:44:56,480
Speaker 1: if I got it from down southigga, pushing a big

2802
02:44:56,600 --> 02:45:00,720
Speaker 1: joint from down south. Now filthy stacked up. Better watch

2803
02:45:00,800 --> 02:45:04,280
Speaker 1: your back these things they got it cracked up on

2804
02:45:04,400 --> 02:45:07,240
Speaker 1: My man from up north. Now he got a loft,

2805
02:45:08,080 --> 02:45:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, came up he was locked up, came home,

2806
02:45:11,480 --> 02:45:15,480
Speaker 1: made money and got a loft. I don't, I don't

2807
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:17,080
Speaker 1: went from cream the cannon beat. Ugh, then.

2808
02:45:18,879 --> 02:45:19,640
Speaker 5: I don't remix.

2809
02:45:21,560 --> 02:45:26,560
Speaker 4: You need to let me ask you real quick, because

2810
02:45:26,600 --> 02:45:29,120
Speaker 4: everything you're you're saying in terms of the impacts of

2811
02:45:29,160 --> 02:45:34,680
Speaker 4: everything is musically. What about all the elements that are.

2812
02:45:34,680 --> 02:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Him saying, Oh, I say you said music, but the

2813
02:45:37,400 --> 02:45:42,440
Speaker 1: way you do because you're I'm sorry, Bro, it's every chamber. Yes,

2814
02:45:43,320 --> 02:45:46,199
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking on the surface. Of course there's lyrics,

2815
02:45:46,560 --> 02:45:49,560
Speaker 1: but nah, Bro, how you dress listen.

2816
02:45:49,360 --> 02:45:51,480
Speaker 3: Because I think the elements is what makes hip hop

2817
02:45:51,560 --> 02:45:52,080
Speaker 3: so special.

2818
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:56,040
Speaker 1: Bro, esn you paid one hundred and fifty dollars for

2819
02:45:56,120 --> 02:45:58,440
Speaker 1: a hoodie, Bro two three hundred four hours for a

2820
02:45:58,480 --> 02:46:03,039
Speaker 1: hoodie that was banned. They told me that they would

2821
02:46:03,080 --> 02:46:05,560
Speaker 1: never get in the industry. My first video we had

2822
02:46:05,600 --> 02:46:10,200
Speaker 1: a hoodies. They said, throw the video in the garbage. Okay,

2823
02:46:11,080 --> 02:46:15,480
Speaker 1: we the culture. When I speak of the culture of

2824
02:46:15,560 --> 02:46:19,720
Speaker 1: hip hop, no, I'm not saying the just the lyrics.

2825
02:46:19,959 --> 02:46:22,920
Speaker 1: It's almost like when the colonists came to a country,

2826
02:46:23,959 --> 02:46:27,120
Speaker 1: they first send them the priests, and the priests come

2827
02:46:27,200 --> 02:46:29,199
Speaker 1: with the word first. From the beginning was the word,

2828
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:32,800
Speaker 1: it says, and then the word becomes flesh. So of

2829
02:46:32,879 --> 02:46:35,040
Speaker 1: course the word is what penetrates us first. That's the music.

2830
02:46:35,520 --> 02:46:39,480
Speaker 1: But nah, both, I'm talking about the hairstyles, the barber.

2831
02:46:41,760 --> 02:46:44,000
Speaker 1: If the hip hop barber don't exist, you don't got

2832
02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:53,880
Speaker 1: to cut. Bro. You're looking like leaving the Beaver's so

2833
02:46:54,000 --> 02:46:58,600
Speaker 1: many chambers. So I told so and when I say

2834
02:46:58,959 --> 02:47:01,800
Speaker 1: vua and I say tang, or you say I said

2835
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:04,680
Speaker 1: you guys said n w a wu tang publicing at me. Uh,

2836
02:47:05,000 --> 02:47:09,720
Speaker 1: you gonna keep going outcast Dayla soul. You keep naming

2837
02:47:09,800 --> 02:47:14,400
Speaker 1: all these different rock calm nos pivotal groups right right, biggie,

2838
02:47:15,120 --> 02:47:20,480
Speaker 1: they are pitting something in this palette that is changing

2839
02:47:21,200 --> 02:47:25,160
Speaker 1: the world. You. Your girl is going to tell you

2840
02:47:25,280 --> 02:47:30,080
Speaker 1: to go get her a Louis Vaton bag, bro, not

2841
02:47:30,280 --> 02:47:40,040
Speaker 1: because of Louis Vaton, because of hip hop, seriously, because

2842
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:42,600
Speaker 1: what hip hop did with Louis Vatan, right, because what

2843
02:47:42,760 --> 02:47:46,520
Speaker 1: hip hop did with Gucci, It's like those things, it's

2844
02:47:46,640 --> 02:47:51,200
Speaker 1: like we took you know, like one point, we had

2845
02:47:51,240 --> 02:47:54,360
Speaker 1: a problem with sampling, right, Sampling tried to cripple us,

2846
02:47:54,400 --> 02:47:56,320
Speaker 1: and it did. But that's why you also have this

2847
02:47:56,440 --> 02:47:58,879
Speaker 1: whole new wave of just trapped beats and dope beats

2848
02:47:58,879 --> 02:48:01,360
Speaker 1: that don't depend upon it, right, you know, to depend

2849
02:48:01,440 --> 02:48:03,840
Speaker 1: upon the playing beats. Yeah, And I was just saying

2850
02:48:03,959 --> 02:48:07,120
Speaker 1: they got electronic for a moment. I did it with

2851
02:48:07,200 --> 02:48:09,400
Speaker 1: Bob me Digital. I did it. I did Bobby Digital

2852
02:48:09,440 --> 02:48:12,200
Speaker 1: because they were taking all my ship. Bro. I was like,

2853
02:48:12,320 --> 02:48:15,600
Speaker 1: fuck y'all, I hit the button right, you can't appreciate that.

2854
02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm making somebody go back. When you hear a song

2855
02:48:18,080 --> 02:48:21,240
Speaker 1: like after the laughter, there will be tears. It didn't

2856
02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:24,600
Speaker 1: sell a million records, bro, but what I say sold

2857
02:48:24,640 --> 02:48:28,119
Speaker 1: a million, okay, the real record saying the real record

2858
02:48:28,480 --> 02:48:31,600
Speaker 1: way no way like that. But they got that.

2859
02:48:31,800 --> 02:48:32,760
Speaker 3: The publishing off of that.

2860
02:48:32,959 --> 02:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Of course, of course hip hop re energized. That's bad

2861
02:48:37,120 --> 02:48:41,320
Speaker 1: I did. That's what. Yeah, it re energized the value

2862
02:48:41,720 --> 02:48:45,039
Speaker 1: I say, the resurrector resurrection shit, you know what I mean,

2863
02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:46,680
Speaker 1: brought it back. So I just want to still in

2864
02:48:46,879 --> 02:48:49,959
Speaker 1: in this punchline with that hip hop has been able

2865
02:48:50,120 --> 02:48:55,680
Speaker 1: to do its culture, inspire and create a value for

2866
02:48:55,800 --> 02:49:02,480
Speaker 1: the world, whether it's K pop, whether it's the all

2867
02:49:02,560 --> 02:49:05,080
Speaker 1: the New, all the new Fastest.

2868
02:49:06,440 --> 02:49:09,120
Speaker 11: You arguing with me before, ridiculous, man, Yo, it's hip hop,

2869
02:49:09,680 --> 02:49:14,600
Speaker 11: k robs hip hop, K pop is bv D. When

2870
02:49:14,640 --> 02:49:16,600
Speaker 11: they was doing on B hip hop.

2871
02:49:17,360 --> 02:49:21,840
Speaker 1: If you go back to Bell BIV Devaux and Poison,

2872
02:49:22,640 --> 02:49:25,000
Speaker 1: first of all, what they said, what they sampled.

2873
02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:28,480
Speaker 3: They always sampled hip hop always, but.

2874
02:49:28,560 --> 02:49:31,600
Speaker 1: That Poison sample for us was everything. But g Rapp

2875
02:49:31,640 --> 02:49:33,880
Speaker 1: only sold two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand records. At

2876
02:49:33,920 --> 02:49:38,400
Speaker 1: that time, they sampled poison. Damn, it's platinum. Most people

2877
02:49:38,480 --> 02:49:43,600
Speaker 1: don't even know it's g rapped. But then the career,

2878
02:49:44,200 --> 02:49:47,480
Speaker 1: are they doing that too, Are they sampling? What they're

2879
02:49:47,560 --> 02:49:52,600
Speaker 1: doing now is sampling the culture? Yeah, okay, so they

2880
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:55,160
Speaker 1: checking out what they supposed to do. But there's a

2881
02:49:55,200 --> 02:49:57,720
Speaker 1: producer over there right now. He's American. He over there,

2882
02:49:57,959 --> 02:50:01,560
Speaker 1: he cacking the fuck up. It should be. He got it.

2883
02:50:01,680 --> 02:50:04,440
Speaker 3: He's over there, like listen, cake up, pay Bobby, he.

2884
02:50:06,959 --> 02:50:12,160
Speaker 1: Got he got a hundred beats. Yo, you're going again.

2885
02:50:16,680 --> 02:50:17,640
Speaker 3: We're skinny than you.

2886
02:50:23,440 --> 02:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Got.

2887
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:27,120
Speaker 3: All right, let me passing back, get it up. It's

2888
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:27,400
Speaker 3: all good.

2889
02:50:27,440 --> 02:50:29,160
Speaker 1: It's a good. Hold on, hold on, hold up, all right.

2890
02:50:29,160 --> 02:50:31,880
Speaker 1: So well, hold on, I just got breaking news. It

2891
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:35,440
Speaker 1: is at seven o'clock breaking news. Oh wow. Wu Tang

2892
02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Clan joints forces with Dave Chappelle to unveil their highly

2893
02:50:39,440 --> 02:50:44,240
Speaker 1: anticipated Time Capsule tour of the Time Capsule. Yeah, the

2894
02:50:44,320 --> 02:50:47,520
Speaker 1: Time Capsule is. Oh man, we got talking about my

2895
02:50:47,560 --> 02:50:51,320
Speaker 1: movie I forgot about. Let's go comcast that. Yeah damn okay,

2896
02:50:51,360 --> 02:50:53,760
Speaker 1: So what's the time. The time? So you know that

2897
02:50:53,879 --> 02:50:56,480
Speaker 1: the Time Capsule is on our tour We'll bring him

2898
02:50:56,480 --> 02:50:59,320
Speaker 1: with us a time capsule. And this is the final tour.

2899
02:50:59,600 --> 02:51:02,320
Speaker 1: This is the New Chamber Tour. We're breaking this time

2900
02:51:02,400 --> 02:51:05,360
Speaker 1: capsule and wherever we go, every city we go, we're

2901
02:51:05,360 --> 02:51:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna have somebody from that city put something into that capsule.

2902
02:51:10,360 --> 02:51:12,960
Speaker 1: So whether I mean somebody could put this one of

2903
02:51:13,000 --> 02:51:16,040
Speaker 1: these and then whatever, somebody will be lucky enough to

2904
02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:18,680
Speaker 1: put something in theirs in that time capsule and we're

2905
02:51:18,720 --> 02:51:20,920
Speaker 1: going to figure out the end. Are we gonna put

2906
02:51:20,959 --> 02:51:23,000
Speaker 1: that time capsule on the top of a mountain. We're

2907
02:51:23,040 --> 02:51:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna put it somewhere, but it's gonna be the Woo

2908
02:51:25,840 --> 02:51:31,200
Speaker 1: time capsule that captured everything. So what happened heard of this? Yeah,

2909
02:51:31,360 --> 02:51:33,080
Speaker 1: I was just saying it's a new thing, okay. But

2910
02:51:33,160 --> 02:51:38,480
Speaker 1: what happened was the tour starts on July sixth and Baltimore.

2911
02:51:40,080 --> 02:51:44,480
Speaker 1: But Dave had asked me five years ago. He said, Yo, risk,

2912
02:51:45,400 --> 02:51:47,800
Speaker 1: if you get the Wu Tang clan to come to

2913
02:51:47,959 --> 02:51:53,280
Speaker 1: Yellow Springs, Ohio, those motherfuckers will go bananas. He has

2914
02:51:53,360 --> 02:51:57,760
Speaker 1: a small club and Yellow Springs, Hold, God's been there, okay, Yo.

2915
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:03,320
Speaker 1: The Wo went there exactly, but it was like, we

2916
02:52:03,400 --> 02:52:05,560
Speaker 1: don't come, We only coming together now for our tour,

2917
02:52:06,800 --> 02:52:10,600
Speaker 1: so officially, off the grid, off the record. The first

2918
02:52:10,640 --> 02:52:15,520
Speaker 1: stop of this tour was Yellow Springs, Ohio. Wow. Okay,

2919
02:52:15,720 --> 02:52:19,880
Speaker 1: so the tour already started unofficial officially Okay, you said that,

2920
02:52:20,480 --> 02:52:22,240
Speaker 1: but no the first show, yes, so you could say

2921
02:52:22,240 --> 02:52:24,800
Speaker 1: the first show of the tour, yes, it started okay,

2922
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:29,640
Speaker 1: was in Yellow Springs, Ohio at Dave Seppelle's club. So

2923
02:52:29,800 --> 02:52:31,360
Speaker 1: that means he got to do what oh they got

2924
02:52:31,480 --> 02:52:33,920
Speaker 1: to do what they have to piss something in the

2925
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:36,640
Speaker 1: time capsule and Dave, I don't know what he put

2926
02:52:36,680 --> 02:52:42,000
Speaker 1: in there, but Dave, whatever the Ohio people did, he

2927
02:52:42,160 --> 02:52:44,959
Speaker 1: had something that he's putting it too this time capsule.

2928
02:52:45,400 --> 02:52:46,880
Speaker 1: So when we get to bought them all there beat

2929
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:49,000
Speaker 1: the second people. They beat them to the punch. So

2930
02:52:49,080 --> 02:52:50,920
Speaker 1: you don't know what these people are putting it in

2931
02:52:50,959 --> 02:52:53,440
Speaker 1: the time they could put they wonder there I put in.

2932
02:52:54,520 --> 02:52:56,680
Speaker 3: First, I'm first, sorry, okay, okay, okay.

2933
02:52:56,640 --> 02:53:03,280
Speaker 1: I put in some floppy disc yeah, okay, from the flood, okay, okay,

2934
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:05,360
Speaker 1: from the flood. Yeah. So I had a flood that

2935
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:08,600
Speaker 1: wiped washed away a lot of my beats, and so

2936
02:53:08,720 --> 02:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I took a couple of real flood not the slang

2937
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:15,360
Speaker 1: flood Well, okay, all right, So I had had a

2938
02:53:15,400 --> 02:53:18,720
Speaker 1: flood that washed away on my floppy disk and I

2939
02:53:18,840 --> 02:53:20,720
Speaker 1: still have those floppy disks, but they just don't work

2940
02:53:20,760 --> 02:53:23,440
Speaker 1: in the ASR ten no more because they got damaged.

2941
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:26,440
Speaker 1: And so I took a couple of floppy discs and

2942
02:53:26,560 --> 02:53:28,920
Speaker 1: I put them in a time capsule as my contribution

2943
02:53:29,080 --> 02:53:31,760
Speaker 1: to the future. So that means that this floppy disc

2944
02:53:32,040 --> 02:53:34,959
Speaker 1: if people discover this wherever you put the time capsule

2945
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:37,840
Speaker 1: later on in life, yeah, discover this. This might be

2946
02:53:37,879 --> 02:53:43,160
Speaker 1: some unreleased Wu Tang songs. Yeah, either either either unreleased

2947
02:53:43,360 --> 02:53:48,600
Speaker 1: or is it the original stems of the It may

2948
02:53:48,680 --> 02:53:50,680
Speaker 1: be unreleased. Got to be some of the stuff never

2949
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:53,880
Speaker 1: never never happened. I never sampled it. You understand that

2950
02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:59,080
Speaker 1: you went to the bathroom, mummy. I'm sorry a lot

2951
02:53:59,080 --> 02:54:00,200
Speaker 1: of people, right.

2952
02:54:00,760 --> 02:54:04,720
Speaker 3: So they just unveiled him and who taking Dave Chappelle

2953
02:54:05,160 --> 02:54:06,480
Speaker 3: that I saw the post.

2954
02:54:06,600 --> 02:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I didn't.

2955
02:54:07,000 --> 02:54:12,080
Speaker 3: I didn't see it unveiling. Yeah, So, uh, what they're

2956
02:54:12,120 --> 02:54:14,480
Speaker 3: doing is for each stop on the tour, they're gonna

2957
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:15,360
Speaker 3: have a time capsule.

2958
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one time capsule probably about you know, like this, right,

2959
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:24,200
Speaker 1: so you don't blame your fucking turntable. Okay, but every

2960
02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:27,959
Speaker 1: city we go to, somebody is allowed to put something

2961
02:54:28,040 --> 02:54:29,560
Speaker 1: into that time capsule for their city.

2962
02:54:29,720 --> 02:54:30,119
Speaker 3: Anything.

2963
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean something reasonable, right, but I know use condos. Yeah,

2964
02:54:41,680 --> 02:54:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying yeah, yeah, something something that's moutilated or that

2965
02:54:48,000 --> 02:54:51,480
Speaker 1: makes sense that somebody could appreciate. Like like I put

2966
02:54:51,520 --> 02:54:55,960
Speaker 1: in two floppy disks from my old beat machine that

2967
02:54:56,200 --> 02:54:59,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't work, right, so I put that in there, right,

2968
02:54:59,800 --> 02:55:03,400
Speaker 1: So so they put in something from whatever he put in.

2969
02:55:04,240 --> 02:55:06,240
Speaker 1: And that was only two things I said. There is

2970
02:55:06,280 --> 02:55:07,840
Speaker 1: when I put in with Dave put in. Our first

2971
02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:10,120
Speaker 1: stop will be Baltimore, and somebody from that city will

2972
02:55:10,120 --> 02:55:12,720
Speaker 1: put something in and every city we go to, hopefully

2973
02:55:13,280 --> 02:55:14,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, were able to hit

2974
02:55:14,879 --> 02:55:17,720
Speaker 1: the world with this and everybody around the world gets

2975
02:55:17,760 --> 02:55:20,320
Speaker 1: to pitch something in that box and that box and

2976
02:55:20,360 --> 02:55:22,760
Speaker 1: it comes. You got to come to the joint. Is

2977
02:55:22,800 --> 02:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you going to Miami? Yes, one day right now, we're

2978
02:55:27,240 --> 02:55:33,480
Speaker 1: not schedule schedule that, Yo, bro, we going to Tampa.

2979
02:55:33,840 --> 02:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I said, yo, we could be a part of that. Okay,

2980
02:55:35,840 --> 02:55:37,640
Speaker 1: so kind of Tampa. But still I was like, how

2981
02:55:37,640 --> 02:55:38,520
Speaker 1: are we going to Tampa?

2982
02:55:39,680 --> 02:55:42,480
Speaker 3: Miami Miami's always is the worst city for tours.

2983
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:46,039
Speaker 1: No, today we came in. We killed Miami for Miami.

2984
02:55:46,120 --> 02:55:47,119
Speaker 3: I'm saying tours in general.

2985
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:47,680
Speaker 1: Ticket Master.

2986
02:55:47,920 --> 02:55:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know from back in the days,

2987
02:55:49,160 --> 02:55:51,959
Speaker 4: from marketing times that I worked, they've always said.

2988
02:55:51,840 --> 02:55:55,160
Speaker 1: That, Okay, because Miami, they don't box.

2989
02:55:55,040 --> 02:55:57,879
Speaker 3: Ticket eleven to the club and hang out with.

2990
02:56:00,040 --> 02:56:03,800
Speaker 1: It. So let's just plain, let's explain this ceramic. Okay,

2991
02:56:03,879 --> 02:56:06,640
Speaker 1: bump bump. All right, So I'm gonna do this like

2992
02:56:06,680 --> 02:56:08,720
Speaker 1: a like a public announcement. I respect that. You know,

2993
02:56:08,760 --> 02:56:10,680
Speaker 1: you got the rules in the building. Yes, I got

2994
02:56:10,760 --> 02:56:13,240
Speaker 1: e f N in the buildings. I got Normy in

2995
02:56:13,280 --> 02:56:13,720
Speaker 1: the building.

2996
02:56:13,959 --> 02:56:14,200
Speaker 4: Let's go.

2997
02:56:14,520 --> 02:56:22,040
Speaker 1: They invited me to drink chips. He invited me like

2998
02:56:22,720 --> 02:56:25,880
Speaker 1: for years, years, years, and and it always wanted to

2999
02:56:25,959 --> 02:56:29,120
Speaker 1: be come, but it was different circumstances that didn't allow me.

3000
02:56:29,800 --> 02:56:32,800
Speaker 1: And it bump bump bump, but this circumstance allowed me. Yes.

3001
02:56:33,120 --> 02:56:35,920
Speaker 1: But as I watched this show, he's always drinking. Some niggas,

3002
02:56:36,200 --> 02:56:39,920
Speaker 1: I can say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good, yeah yeah yeah.

3003
02:56:40,840 --> 02:56:42,560
Speaker 1: Bleak all my niggas. I don't want to say niggas.

3004
02:56:43,720 --> 02:57:03,240
Speaker 1: Some niggas, niggas niggas, my niggas, the cocaine section. So

3005
02:57:03,360 --> 02:57:05,600
Speaker 1: now so, so I said, I'll come bump bump with you,

3006
02:57:05,680 --> 02:57:09,480
Speaker 1: and we here, but I wanted to drink something that's

3007
02:57:09,560 --> 02:57:12,600
Speaker 1: more of an upper okay, and so we have sacky.

3008
02:57:12,640 --> 02:57:16,680
Speaker 1: We've been drinking socky this whole ship. One three bottle.

3009
02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:20,280
Speaker 1: This is the third one bottle? Is this this is

3010
02:57:20,320 --> 02:57:22,080
Speaker 1: the third? It is the third? Yeah, it's the third.

3011
02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:25,800
Speaker 1: You did one? Yeah? Okay, okay, is this dispressing one?

3012
02:57:26,080 --> 02:57:26,600
Speaker 1: Special one?

3013
02:57:27,440 --> 02:57:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dispecial.

3014
02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:32,840
Speaker 1: It's not special bottle. Look at this bottle. Look at that?

3015
02:57:35,080 --> 02:57:37,199
Speaker 1: Hey what the camera that? Yeah? You want to zoom

3016
02:57:37,240 --> 02:57:37,480
Speaker 1: in on that?

3017
02:57:37,600 --> 02:57:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, zoom in on that.

3018
02:57:39,879 --> 02:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always say cocaine white.

3019
02:57:45,879 --> 02:57:46,760
Speaker 5: You got the cocaine.

3020
02:57:47,800 --> 02:57:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother, you don't con sip, but you can't sniff.

3021
02:58:02,440 --> 02:58:04,000
Speaker 1: So why this one white?

3022
02:58:04,600 --> 02:58:08,240
Speaker 4: A ceramic ceramic y saradic. But what's what's the difference

3023
02:58:08,320 --> 02:58:12,360
Speaker 4: with the other bottles. That's the big boy one. I'm

3024
02:58:12,400 --> 02:58:15,000
Speaker 4: trying to help the process know what is crazy. The

3025
02:58:15,040 --> 02:58:17,400
Speaker 4: other bottle was black, right, right, and then we had

3026
02:58:17,440 --> 02:58:20,039
Speaker 4: a blue one, I think, or no, listen, both we.

3027
02:58:20,160 --> 02:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Try to represent all the human families.

3028
02:58:24,640 --> 02:58:27,880
Speaker 3: Family, the blue for the blue pop up the avatar.

3029
02:58:29,879 --> 02:58:33,520
Speaker 3: That's the way, the clear one and they.

3030
02:58:32,760 --> 02:58:35,480
Speaker 1: Yellow one right, the other one kind of yellowish. Why

3031
02:58:35,560 --> 02:58:37,240
Speaker 1: you're not family out?

3032
02:58:37,440 --> 02:58:40,959
Speaker 10: We have to wait what's supposed to We have one

3033
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:49,560
Speaker 10: more left, We have several several see the pretty Yeah,

3034
02:58:49,640 --> 02:58:53,080
Speaker 10: so I ain't gonna love this ship got me nice.

3035
02:58:52,879 --> 02:58:56,760
Speaker 6: But like like you're not sweepy. This is like shrew

3036
02:58:56,920 --> 02:59:00,360
Speaker 6: but you're like but not really something you know what's

3037
02:59:00,360 --> 02:59:04,320
Speaker 6: so crazy? We all drank and we d because that's

3038
02:59:04,320 --> 02:59:04,560
Speaker 6: what we.

3039
02:59:04,600 --> 02:59:07,680
Speaker 1: Do, right. But if you call a drink, honestly, bro,

3040
02:59:08,280 --> 02:59:10,600
Speaker 1: you better all drink and shake is.

3041
02:59:10,560 --> 02:59:11,080
Speaker 3: A great drink.

3042
02:59:11,120 --> 02:59:14,200
Speaker 1: It's a better it's better for the which one's not

3043
02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:15,400
Speaker 1: saying that one.

3044
02:59:18,080 --> 02:59:18,640
Speaker 3: You're saying that's not.

3045
02:59:22,560 --> 02:59:25,440
Speaker 1: What's this one? That's that's the's the aliens. This is

3046
02:59:26,320 --> 02:59:33,480
Speaker 1: that's the future we have that we all version because

3047
02:59:33,480 --> 02:59:37,360
Speaker 1: that's the big boy. Holds up this is that's a

3048
02:59:37,400 --> 02:59:45,800
Speaker 1: big boy listen because it's ceramic. Yah suspense. Also, look

3049
02:59:45,800 --> 02:59:47,880
Speaker 1: at that top. Look at the top, bro, That top

3050
02:59:48,040 --> 02:59:49,960
Speaker 1: is like that's how you know what I mean? Like

3051
02:59:50,440 --> 02:59:54,080
Speaker 1: that's like a nice right there. She opened it.

3052
02:59:55,320 --> 02:59:59,360
Speaker 3: They go like this, let me, I'm glad you asked

3053
02:59:59,800 --> 03:00:02,520
Speaker 3: man brother that she was till.

3054
03:00:02,400 --> 03:00:09,080
Speaker 1: The dog like that. Okay, anyway, hold on, we're not

3055
03:00:09,200 --> 03:00:12,240
Speaker 1: marketing this ship. We're drinking it. But okay, we've been

3056
03:00:12,320 --> 03:00:15,680
Speaker 1: through some bottles. This bottle just came out recently. I've

3057
03:00:15,680 --> 03:00:17,080
Speaker 1: been drinking this for a couple of years, since we

3058
03:00:17,200 --> 03:00:20,440
Speaker 1: was in Paris. Man, they know we drunk this in Paris,

3059
03:00:21,080 --> 03:00:25,840
Speaker 1: but I don't. This is Paris. You might have been

3060
03:00:26,080 --> 03:00:28,800
Speaker 1: one of these. Okay, yeah, but you told me when

3061
03:00:28,800 --> 03:00:30,600
Speaker 1: I saw you and raised wed and he was like, yo,

3062
03:00:30,760 --> 03:00:34,880
Speaker 1: you fucked me up with that, so good. I said,

3063
03:00:35,080 --> 03:00:37,120
Speaker 1: to suck him up again. And then we decided to

3064
03:00:37,160 --> 03:00:39,440
Speaker 1: do when when my time allowed me to be here

3065
03:00:39,440 --> 03:00:41,320
Speaker 1: and blessed with and you guys have blessed me to

3066
03:00:45,160 --> 03:00:47,000
Speaker 1: let's hit that ceramic. Come on, I was like, we're

3067
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:49,480
Speaker 1: going with Saki. So here goes to Saki, the ceramics,

3068
03:00:49,680 --> 03:00:51,640
Speaker 1: the long version. You're gonna have to pull this. This

3069
03:00:51,800 --> 03:00:52,240
Speaker 1: is the bump.

3070
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:54,560
Speaker 3: Make sure all our cops are clin called the Bangie.

3071
03:00:55,360 --> 03:00:58,160
Speaker 1: Just bunk, no, no, no, listen, it's called heaven sake,

3072
03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:04,000
Speaker 1: that for Rammic gotta be called the Bangie. Okay, anybody

3073
03:01:04,040 --> 03:01:06,680
Speaker 1: out there who works for that company yes, he's just

3074
03:01:07,120 --> 03:01:11,320
Speaker 1: he renamed it. Yes, bankie, yeah, let me take that.

3075
03:01:11,400 --> 03:01:15,600
Speaker 1: But real quick, you want to quake, right, we read

3076
03:01:15,760 --> 03:01:18,039
Speaker 1: read the word, just just read the world.

3077
03:01:17,920 --> 03:01:20,960
Speaker 4: With the name of the brand with his brother Heaven's Sake,

3078
03:01:21,200 --> 03:01:23,880
Speaker 4: and he said it, say again, Heaven's Sake.

3079
03:01:24,160 --> 03:01:27,200
Speaker 1: He said Heaven's Sake or heaven Saki. Right. So there's

3080
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:29,760
Speaker 1: a song on the Wood Tang album that's called Heaven's Sake.

3081
03:01:30,160 --> 03:01:32,440
Speaker 3: Oh heaven sonk No.

3082
03:01:32,600 --> 03:01:34,640
Speaker 1: So when I saw this. When I saw it, I

3083
03:01:34,800 --> 03:01:42,120
Speaker 1: was like, he's right. Now, you say it wrong, you

3084
03:01:42,160 --> 03:01:47,160
Speaker 1: said it right. They're gonna suck that up and it's

3085
03:01:47,160 --> 03:01:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna be like your son, what is that ship?

3086
03:01:51,480 --> 03:01:55,920
Speaker 3: So all right, if we make it that, I'll be

3087
03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:57,080
Speaker 3: excited about this one.

3088
03:01:57,440 --> 03:02:00,120
Speaker 1: Because mister Lee couldn't find it at all. But let

3089
03:02:00,160 --> 03:02:04,640
Speaker 1: me fine if someone brought somebody brought it to him. Alright, cool.

3090
03:02:06,400 --> 03:02:20,800
Speaker 9: Japanese brother, he's on camera. He gleat you want he said,

3091
03:02:20,800 --> 03:02:21,440
Speaker 9: I don't know something.

3092
03:02:22,600 --> 03:02:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so crazy about Japanese language. If you

3093
03:02:27,600 --> 03:02:31,120
Speaker 1: can't remember Japanese language, the best thing to do is

3094
03:02:31,200 --> 03:02:34,000
Speaker 1: to try to take the word and make it an

3095
03:02:34,080 --> 03:02:39,800
Speaker 1: English sentence like a he got though, thank you, I mean,

3096
03:02:39,920 --> 03:02:42,280
Speaker 1: thank you, right, But how would you flip that? He

3097
03:02:42,360 --> 03:02:48,320
Speaker 1: got those? He got those? I don't know how you

3098
03:02:48,360 --> 03:02:49,840
Speaker 1: got those from me? I said, you gotta let I

3099
03:02:49,879 --> 03:02:58,000
Speaker 1: got those, man, I got those another one he said, uh,

3100
03:02:58,480 --> 03:03:02,480
Speaker 1: you you need can eat you are? Okay? How do

3101
03:03:02,520 --> 03:03:11,440
Speaker 1: we flip out? Go to a girl? Oh my god? Yeah?

3102
03:03:11,480 --> 03:03:14,280
Speaker 1: And then you said, no, oh you know what I

3103
03:03:14,360 --> 03:03:15,600
Speaker 1: just said. I don't think I all said on the

3104
03:03:15,600 --> 03:03:20,280
Speaker 1: mic ahead again, yeah yeah for canichi CANi can hold

3105
03:03:20,320 --> 03:03:27,560
Speaker 1: on canchi? Wahni? Can I eat you all? Can I

3106
03:03:27,600 --> 03:03:27,840
Speaker 1: eat you?

3107
03:03:30,720 --> 03:03:31,520
Speaker 5: Can eat you out?

3108
03:03:35,120 --> 03:03:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, help me remember the words. Sorry,

3109
03:03:42,360 --> 03:03:44,760
Speaker 1: not to shign, not up, sorry, not tonight, you know,

3110
03:03:45,080 --> 03:03:51,800
Speaker 1: sign not tonight, sign not tonight anyway. No, that's bad.

3111
03:03:52,480 --> 03:03:53,080
Speaker 1: Cut that out.

3112
03:03:56,560 --> 03:03:57,200
Speaker 3: Take it serious.

3113
03:03:58,240 --> 03:04:05,720
Speaker 1: All our first ceramics drinking expensive whiskey. I drink expensive ship.

3114
03:04:05,640 --> 03:04:07,040
Speaker 3: And where do we get the ceramics from.

3115
03:04:07,600 --> 03:04:10,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it to you like this. I'm gonna

3116
03:04:10,920 --> 03:04:15,160
Speaker 1: tell you like this smells a little stronger than the

3117
03:04:15,280 --> 03:04:19,000
Speaker 1: other one smells sweeter. Actually I smell sweetness, but I

3118
03:04:19,040 --> 03:04:22,440
Speaker 1: smell that strongness as well. Let me try, all right,

3119
03:04:23,040 --> 03:04:23,800
Speaker 1: tell me what you feel?

3120
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:27,920
Speaker 3: Do you feel the karate kids out of you. I'm

3121
03:04:27,920 --> 03:04:32,920
Speaker 3: going second small man, man, it smells stronger.

3122
03:04:34,680 --> 03:04:40,200
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, that's good. Let me Can I sell

3123
03:04:40,200 --> 03:04:43,120
Speaker 1: you a cat around my heart? Right now? That's nice.

3124
03:04:44,800 --> 03:04:46,800
Speaker 4: Let's tell the audience something. When we were first talking

3125
03:04:46,800 --> 03:04:49,360
Speaker 4: about doing this episode, we go to Ja, wanted to

3126
03:04:49,400 --> 03:04:50,760
Speaker 4: go to Japan and we're so.

3127
03:04:50,959 --> 03:04:53,240
Speaker 3: Hyped about hold on, can I invite you to Japan?

3128
03:04:53,440 --> 03:04:56,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Holoit that said the name this? Yeah, I like

3129
03:04:56,879 --> 03:05:01,640
Speaker 1: that he understood. That's you, Jeremy. I know what I'm saying.

3130
03:05:02,280 --> 03:05:05,360
Speaker 1: Can I invite you guys with your parents if you

3131
03:05:05,480 --> 03:05:09,040
Speaker 1: ever invite me back to the show. This is your home. Now,

3132
03:05:09,840 --> 03:05:12,320
Speaker 1: we gotta go to Japan one, okay, please, let's we're

3133
03:05:12,320 --> 03:05:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna special drinks, yo. We gotta make that happen. Yeah,

3134
03:05:17,040 --> 03:05:21,240
Speaker 1: please all right, bump bump please. So Drake Champions is

3135
03:05:21,280 --> 03:05:26,520
Speaker 1: one of the top and pioneering hip hop podcast of

3136
03:05:27,080 --> 03:05:29,720
Speaker 1: it all. When I'm happy that you sparked so many

3137
03:05:29,760 --> 03:05:31,720
Speaker 1: other brothers and a lot of brothers are eating well

3138
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:34,520
Speaker 1: because of you. Yes, you know what I mean. May

3139
03:05:34,560 --> 03:05:41,280
Speaker 1: you be eating well as the thing? Yes? Yes? And

3140
03:05:42,240 --> 03:05:43,760
Speaker 1: now it's a privilege for me to be here in

3141
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:46,160
Speaker 1: the honor. I'm glad I decided to funk with you.

3142
03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:49,320
Speaker 1: You know, one thing happened to me too. I can talk,

3143
03:05:49,520 --> 03:05:53,240
Speaker 1: so you know, I took my shahada, right, even though

3144
03:05:53,920 --> 03:05:59,760
Speaker 1: I got nas herself already. You nas yourself already? Yeah,

3145
03:06:00,600 --> 03:06:03,280
Speaker 1: when you have so now the self. In my days,

3146
03:06:03,280 --> 03:06:05,240
Speaker 1: they make you fast three days before they gave you

3147
03:06:05,320 --> 03:06:08,560
Speaker 1: the lessons lessons of the five cent Yes, yes, usually

3148
03:06:08,640 --> 03:06:11,440
Speaker 1: fast three days. Yeah. So so what's the difference from

3149
03:06:11,800 --> 03:06:14,280
Speaker 1: taking your shahada because fast and three days and getting

3150
03:06:14,280 --> 03:06:16,680
Speaker 1: the lessons, Well, you're talking about the one twenty lesons, yeah,

3151
03:06:16,680 --> 03:06:18,680
Speaker 1: one hundred twenty lessons, right. I had a faster three

3152
03:06:18,720 --> 03:06:21,440
Speaker 1: days and I got that, but then without did the shahada. Right,

3153
03:06:22,120 --> 03:06:24,520
Speaker 1: First of all, my lesson said, the lesson says that

3154
03:06:24,920 --> 03:06:27,280
Speaker 1: what is your own self? What is what is your

3155
03:06:27,360 --> 03:06:31,360
Speaker 1: own self? And they were speaking primarily to the Latins,

3156
03:06:32,360 --> 03:06:35,800
Speaker 1: the Native Americans, and the black men of America who

3157
03:06:37,560 --> 03:06:40,240
Speaker 1: kind of was lost from ourselves? Is that where they

3158
03:06:40,280 --> 03:06:43,080
Speaker 1: said that the Asiatic black man? Yeah, the Asiatic meeting

3159
03:06:43,160 --> 03:06:46,720
Speaker 1: that life itself was more origin in Asia. At one

3160
03:06:46,720 --> 03:06:49,480
Speaker 1: point the whole planet was called Asia, but it wasn't

3161
03:06:49,600 --> 03:06:52,480
Speaker 1: called Africa. Africa's more of a later name, maybe two

3162
03:06:52,520 --> 03:06:54,600
Speaker 1: thousand years old at best, maybe fifteen hundred years old

3163
03:06:54,600 --> 03:06:59,760
Speaker 1: before the continents moved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was

3164
03:06:59,800 --> 03:07:02,440
Speaker 1: just Asia. Just means land, right, right, right, and so

3165
03:07:02,520 --> 03:07:05,720
Speaker 1: everything was land before we start paying borders. But it's

3166
03:07:05,760 --> 03:07:13,880
Speaker 1: said that our own selves are righteous Muslims, then what

3167
03:07:13,959 --> 03:07:18,440
Speaker 1: do that mean? Would you consider yourself righteous? Earfing? Or

3168
03:07:18,560 --> 03:07:21,600
Speaker 1: you try to be righteous? You try to be righteous

3169
03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:25,360
Speaker 1: and I strive to be righteous, okay. And the word

3170
03:07:25,480 --> 03:07:30,360
Speaker 1: Muslim me mousalim, meaning either one from the city or

3171
03:07:30,400 --> 03:07:34,880
Speaker 1: from the idea of peace. So basically you could translate

3172
03:07:34,879 --> 03:07:37,680
Speaker 1: the word Muslim to a man of peace. Do you

3173
03:07:37,720 --> 03:07:39,880
Speaker 1: feel like you're a man of peace? Do you feel

3174
03:07:39,879 --> 03:07:41,120
Speaker 1: like you're a man of peace? I feel like I'm

3175
03:07:41,120 --> 03:07:44,280
Speaker 1: a man. So one of our strivings is to be

3176
03:07:44,400 --> 03:07:48,600
Speaker 1: a righteous man of peace. And because that's one of

3177
03:07:48,640 --> 03:07:56,280
Speaker 1: our strivings, right, because that's our physical presence, it's healthy

3178
03:07:56,440 --> 03:07:59,680
Speaker 1: for us to acknowledge that. Right. So when I took

3179
03:07:59,720 --> 03:08:02,480
Speaker 1: this how to, I took I did knowledge to that

3180
03:08:02,520 --> 03:08:06,760
Speaker 1: because my lesson already described who I was. Now, then

3181
03:08:06,800 --> 03:08:08,400
Speaker 1: some people some people hit me up there, yo, why

3182
03:08:08,400 --> 03:08:12,520
Speaker 1: are you drinking? Bro? You know what I mean? Yeah, okay,

3183
03:08:12,840 --> 03:08:14,120
Speaker 1: And I just said to them, and I want to

3184
03:08:14,520 --> 03:08:16,600
Speaker 1: I just say, at the end of the day, you know,

3185
03:08:17,240 --> 03:08:19,760
Speaker 1: my straw is my straw, you know what I mean.

3186
03:08:20,280 --> 03:08:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll come a time I won't drink, I

3187
03:08:22,160 --> 03:08:26,480
Speaker 1: start smoking, and I'll continue to become as more. It's

3188
03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:28,600
Speaker 1: acting more advices as I can, you know what I mean.

3189
03:08:29,160 --> 03:08:31,840
Speaker 1: But as I moved to my entertainment world and dealing

3190
03:08:31,879 --> 03:08:34,760
Speaker 1: with these things, I actually don't drink before I go

3191
03:08:34,840 --> 03:08:38,360
Speaker 1: on stage before I drunk every time. So everything is

3192
03:08:39,040 --> 03:08:41,520
Speaker 1: getting better and better, and that's the goal of it,

3193
03:08:41,640 --> 03:08:45,680
Speaker 1: to have a path to get better and better. Now. Also,

3194
03:08:45,760 --> 03:08:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Shalin disciple, and so Shain was founded or

3195
03:08:52,879 --> 03:08:55,840
Speaker 1: brought to the surface by a man named Body Dama.

3196
03:08:57,640 --> 03:09:01,200
Speaker 1: And Body Dama, yeah, he drunk wine. And that's why

3197
03:09:01,240 --> 03:09:06,000
Speaker 1: you have a drunk Buddha, a laughing Buddha, drunken, sleeping Buddha.

3198
03:09:06,080 --> 03:09:08,320
Speaker 1: You got all these different things because these are all

3199
03:09:08,400 --> 03:09:10,320
Speaker 1: different expressions of what a man might have to go

3200
03:09:10,480 --> 03:09:14,200
Speaker 1: through to find enlightenment. Mm hmm. So our lessons teach

3201
03:09:14,320 --> 03:09:16,920
Speaker 1: us that we are by nature we should be righteous,

3202
03:09:16,959 --> 03:09:19,600
Speaker 1: and we should be a men of peace. But Bodhi

3203
03:09:19,720 --> 03:09:23,680
Speaker 1: Dhama means enlightened righteousness.

3204
03:09:24,440 --> 03:09:24,959
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

3205
03:09:27,440 --> 03:09:29,600
Speaker 1: Enlighten. So now you could be righteous, but how about

3206
03:09:29,760 --> 03:09:34,200
Speaker 1: enlightened righteousness? And so do my Chilentce studies. That's what

3207
03:09:34,320 --> 03:09:36,520
Speaker 1: I was strong to be. You look at the ris,

3208
03:09:37,240 --> 03:09:42,760
Speaker 1: may you see enlightened righteousness. That's striving for peace. I

3209
03:09:42,840 --> 03:09:48,720
Speaker 1: just want to share that with your brothers. All right. Now,

3210
03:09:48,800 --> 03:09:51,280
Speaker 1: there's a rumor that to come see you, you gotta

3211
03:09:51,320 --> 03:09:54,360
Speaker 1: walk up one hundred steps to come see us. I

3212
03:09:54,400 --> 03:10:02,680
Speaker 1: told you that my other studio, my other studio. Did

3213
03:10:02,720 --> 03:10:08,800
Speaker 1: you create the other studio? I call the studios temples

3214
03:10:09,480 --> 03:10:11,440
Speaker 1: the other studio. Yeah, you have to walk off these stirs.

3215
03:10:11,440 --> 03:10:13,920
Speaker 1: When you get up there, you be out of breath. Bro,

3216
03:10:15,160 --> 03:10:17,360
Speaker 1: if I should give you one story, you should edit

3217
03:10:17,440 --> 03:10:19,800
Speaker 1: about that. But when you walk up the studio steps,

3218
03:10:20,280 --> 03:10:23,000
Speaker 1: you get there, you're out of breath. And that's that.

3219
03:10:23,160 --> 03:10:25,320
Speaker 1: But but then I've got to be and my wife

3220
03:10:25,360 --> 03:10:29,200
Speaker 1: bought another spot and we built the studio there in

3221
03:10:29,320 --> 03:10:31,400
Speaker 1: this studio. Now you got to walk down one hundred

3222
03:10:31,400 --> 03:10:35,480
Speaker 1: and twenty steps. The gag is you could walk down

3223
03:10:35,520 --> 03:10:39,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty you're not going to say it

3224
03:10:39,920 --> 03:10:44,520
Speaker 1: makes you not want to leave. It makes you not

3225
03:10:44,600 --> 03:10:46,880
Speaker 1: want to leave. But what quick store you can edit

3226
03:10:46,920 --> 03:10:48,440
Speaker 1: the center because we dragging it. Let me know, we

3227
03:10:48,480 --> 03:10:51,280
Speaker 1: went out of time. There's no time, okay for you?

3228
03:10:51,400 --> 03:10:53,680
Speaker 1: All right? So y'all so so so yeah, So I

3229
03:10:53,760 --> 03:10:56,560
Speaker 1: have a studio that's way up. The studio I had

3230
03:10:56,640 --> 03:10:58,960
Speaker 1: was built up one hundred and twenty steps. And you know,

3231
03:10:59,040 --> 03:11:01,320
Speaker 1: when bus came through, he did the one twenty. Nds

3232
03:11:01,360 --> 03:11:03,320
Speaker 1: came through, he did the one twenty. You know, the

3233
03:11:03,959 --> 03:11:08,480
Speaker 1: whatever whoever came through did the one twenty right, and uh,

3234
03:11:08,840 --> 03:11:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, you get up the out of breath. I

3235
03:11:11,160 --> 03:11:14,440
Speaker 1: did a song with my brother, my hero, my wife's hero,

3236
03:11:16,000 --> 03:11:17,960
Speaker 1: Sly from Sly and the Family.

3237
03:11:20,240 --> 03:11:22,280
Speaker 3: So Slotstone comes to do a.

3238
03:11:22,320 --> 03:11:25,120
Speaker 1: Song on doing this thing called Athos Samurai and I

3239
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:27,440
Speaker 1: want to do a song. I wanted to remake family

3240
03:11:27,520 --> 03:11:31,360
Speaker 1: affair and my wife is the big slot famn like baby,

3241
03:11:34,080 --> 03:11:35,760
Speaker 1: I think I got. I talked to George Clinton and

3242
03:11:35,840 --> 03:11:39,119
Speaker 1: he's going to bring Sly to the studio. We're gonna

3243
03:11:39,120 --> 03:11:42,640
Speaker 1: do that song over. It's like cool, all right, so

3244
03:11:42,800 --> 03:11:48,720
Speaker 1: now we you know, but Sly is quite adamant if

3245
03:11:48,720 --> 03:11:51,360
Speaker 1: you're going to do this session. He needs at least

3246
03:11:51,400 --> 03:11:54,320
Speaker 1: half the cheese up front, right, you know what I mean.

3247
03:11:54,400 --> 03:11:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. Bam milama, here's half the cheese. Okay.

3248
03:12:00,240 --> 03:12:09,600
Speaker 1: He comes to the sessions and it's those steps and

3249
03:12:09,760 --> 03:12:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, so he wants the second half, but you

3250
03:12:14,120 --> 03:12:17,360
Speaker 1: gotta hit these steps, right, So he so, and he

3251
03:12:17,440 --> 03:12:20,280
Speaker 1: has this gentleman with him, this gentleman he had, well

3252
03:12:20,320 --> 03:12:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't really describe this gentleman. This gentleman kind of

3253
03:12:22,440 --> 03:12:24,920
Speaker 1: like he was bullheaded, but he had like a string

3254
03:12:25,000 --> 03:12:27,880
Speaker 1: of here that hung off the side and ship I

3255
03:12:27,920 --> 03:12:31,120
Speaker 1: couldn't like a monk. He wasn't a monk though, like

3256
03:12:31,200 --> 03:12:33,800
Speaker 1: a month like a monk. Like that's some Veby Bebby

3257
03:12:33,920 --> 03:12:37,160
Speaker 1: Bebby unique individual like I don't I don't know what

3258
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:39,039
Speaker 1: that what that was, but remember they.

3259
03:12:39,000 --> 03:12:44,320
Speaker 3: Come from an era. They come from the psychedelic.

3260
03:12:45,560 --> 03:12:49,360
Speaker 1: He might have been psychedelic. That was a second. Yeah.

3261
03:12:49,959 --> 03:12:53,360
Speaker 1: And I met him at Slye House and then Slide

3262
03:12:53,400 --> 03:12:55,560
Speaker 1: pulls up to him, like I said, the studio and

3263
03:12:55,720 --> 03:13:00,120
Speaker 1: Slide has this van that's like his personal van he

3264
03:13:00,400 --> 03:13:04,520
Speaker 1: like when he travels this this van has a bad bathroom.

3265
03:13:05,440 --> 03:13:09,720
Speaker 1: It's a schoofy doo type van. Good, right, and so

3266
03:13:09,920 --> 03:13:12,440
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, I mean, I don't know where He's like,

3267
03:13:12,480 --> 03:13:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio, but I'm waiting for him. But

3268
03:13:16,320 --> 03:13:19,400
Speaker 1: he never comes up. And then all of a sudden,

3269
03:13:19,920 --> 03:13:24,440
Speaker 1: the guy with the one bomb car Yeah, no, no,

3270
03:13:24,600 --> 03:13:28,440
Speaker 1: he shows up. He knocks on the door. He open up, like, hey,

3271
03:13:28,920 --> 03:13:32,120
Speaker 1: what's sly At? He's like's on hundred twenty steps. He's

3272
03:13:32,200 --> 03:13:39,840
Speaker 1: like brother Rizza. Brother Sly was wondering could he get

3273
03:13:39,879 --> 03:13:46,959
Speaker 1: the rest of the advanced before he comes up. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

3274
03:13:47,000 --> 03:13:49,160
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, you know what I mean, Let's tell about

3275
03:13:49,160 --> 03:13:51,640
Speaker 1: the Slide to come on up. We'll do the song

3276
03:13:51,760 --> 03:13:54,400
Speaker 1: we got there advancing. It'll be all good. It'll tell

3277
03:13:54,480 --> 03:13:57,080
Speaker 1: him come on up. He's like okay, So now he

3278
03:13:57,160 --> 03:14:03,440
Speaker 1: has to go back down. He goes down, comes back

3279
03:14:03,520 --> 03:14:16,680
Speaker 1: up again. No, Sly, no slop. Brother slaes wonder if

3280
03:14:16,680 --> 03:14:25,320
Speaker 1: you can at least give me a portion before he

3281
03:14:25,440 --> 03:14:32,440
Speaker 1: comes up. I'm like, I'm smoking too, Like how much?

3282
03:14:33,480 --> 03:14:35,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I tell Brother Slid,

3283
03:14:35,720 --> 03:14:38,000
Speaker 1: do have some cash here? It's just you know, I

3284
03:14:38,040 --> 03:14:40,720
Speaker 1: don't really keep cashing you, but I do have some

3285
03:14:40,879 --> 03:14:43,200
Speaker 1: cash here. Because you ask Brother Slide like how much

3286
03:14:43,320 --> 03:14:49,760
Speaker 1: cash would be cool to get him up here. And

3287
03:14:49,920 --> 03:15:02,680
Speaker 1: he goes down again, comes back the It's like out

3288
03:15:02,720 --> 03:15:10,040
Speaker 1: of the raft. He told me the number though, fire down,

3289
03:15:10,360 --> 03:15:13,880
Speaker 1: you know what I man. I'm like, shit, I don't

3290
03:15:13,879 --> 03:15:16,840
Speaker 1: really got fired down. Twenty five hundred cash right right

3291
03:15:17,320 --> 03:15:19,520
Speaker 1: right there. I don't know Shapo had it. Somebody had

3292
03:15:19,560 --> 03:15:21,960
Speaker 1: it and my guy who there twenty But tell brother

3293
03:15:22,080 --> 03:15:28,960
Speaker 1: Slop we got you know, twenty fived. Whatever he goes,

3294
03:15:29,160 --> 03:15:30,800
Speaker 1: he comes back with him in full time though, you

3295
03:15:30,840 --> 03:15:31,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

3296
03:15:31,879 --> 03:15:34,320
Speaker 3: But the point of the story is that those steps,

3297
03:15:34,600 --> 03:15:35,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

3298
03:15:35,320 --> 03:15:39,400
Speaker 1: Serious? Yeah, it means you coming to work, come to

3299
03:15:39,480 --> 03:15:42,320
Speaker 1: get something. He's working, he's working, and brother Slot came

3300
03:15:42,400 --> 03:15:46,880
Speaker 1: up sat I had a rolls piano and he sat

3301
03:15:46,959 --> 03:15:51,840
Speaker 1: there bro and he played. It's a family, a fan,

3302
03:15:52,400 --> 03:15:56,760
Speaker 1: it's something that ship and I don't know. You never

3303
03:15:56,800 --> 03:15:58,880
Speaker 1: come to the studio like that. She comes. When she

3304
03:15:58,920 --> 03:16:04,400
Speaker 1: comes by, I was like, step everything, Okay, the studio.

3305
03:16:04,840 --> 03:16:06,440
Speaker 1: If she comes to the studio, she's coming to flush

3306
03:16:06,480 --> 03:16:09,000
Speaker 1: every day down the toilet right right right, Okay, Okay,

3307
03:16:10,680 --> 03:16:12,280
Speaker 1: it's the old days. I don't gus, I don't smoke

3308
03:16:12,280 --> 03:16:14,960
Speaker 1: on drinking. I'm not drink. I don't smoke nothing but

3309
03:16:15,120 --> 03:16:16,640
Speaker 1: the old days. You're gonna come to my studio and

3310
03:16:16,680 --> 03:16:18,600
Speaker 1: I'll mindset that is with you and you can throw

3311
03:16:18,600 --> 03:16:20,360
Speaker 1: it in the garbage or you can keep it. Keep it.

3312
03:16:20,360 --> 03:16:23,120
Speaker 1: If you came to my studio, bro, no matter what

3313
03:16:23,280 --> 03:16:25,160
Speaker 1: you did, it's in the cabinet.

3314
03:16:25,879 --> 03:16:28,480
Speaker 4: I don't do everything you do. Oh you say like

3315
03:16:28,560 --> 03:16:31,160
Speaker 4: all the bad habits, No matter what you if you say.

3316
03:16:31,080 --> 03:16:36,560
Speaker 1: Yo wiz, all I do is eat monkey, monkey, ship,

3317
03:16:36,720 --> 03:16:39,360
Speaker 1: but soapin piss. It's in the I got a job

3318
03:16:39,480 --> 03:16:43,920
Speaker 1: for you. If you come to the studio. I got

3319
03:16:43,959 --> 03:16:47,160
Speaker 1: you covered, bro. I got dudes that came. They had

3320
03:16:47,240 --> 03:16:53,560
Speaker 1: no session. They do that because the studio somethingsion the Hey,

3321
03:16:53,800 --> 03:16:55,600
Speaker 1: they walk into a hundred and twenty steps. They walk

3322
03:16:55,959 --> 03:17:02,000
Speaker 1: twenty steps. So if she came up at home and

3323
03:17:02,360 --> 03:17:04,960
Speaker 1: all that shit is there, all that shit goes in

3324
03:17:05,080 --> 03:17:08,280
Speaker 1: the toilet, in the garbage, because that's not healthy for us.

3325
03:17:08,520 --> 03:17:11,720
Speaker 1: She always was promoting health for us, consciousness and health

3326
03:17:12,200 --> 03:17:14,840
Speaker 1: and ship, so she'd come throw it out. All the

3327
03:17:14,879 --> 03:17:17,360
Speaker 1: guys are calling, go yo, shit, what happened? That's my

3328
03:17:17,400 --> 03:17:21,760
Speaker 1: wife came up and ship. Don't worry. Twenty four hours,

3329
03:17:21,800 --> 03:17:25,680
Speaker 1: I'll be restocked, so brother, but Brother Slide comes up

3330
03:17:26,640 --> 03:17:33,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, let me call downstairs. Having come up,

3331
03:17:34,440 --> 03:17:38,000
Speaker 1: and I called downstairs and she came up and watched

3332
03:17:38,040 --> 03:17:40,240
Speaker 1: Brother Slide performed this song.

3333
03:17:40,400 --> 03:17:40,520
Speaker 4: Yo.

3334
03:17:41,080 --> 03:17:42,680
Speaker 1: So you don't have an elevator on the side of

3335
03:17:42,720 --> 03:17:45,520
Speaker 1: the steps, well you need a zip line. If you

3336
03:17:46,080 --> 03:17:50,240
Speaker 1: like it's crazy, it's deep, it's all elevated there. Oh okay,

3337
03:17:50,720 --> 03:17:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember how Buster told me the story. How

3338
03:17:52,879 --> 03:17:54,720
Speaker 1: did you know that Buster told me that story, because

3339
03:17:54,760 --> 03:17:57,440
Speaker 1: when he came up the stairs, he was like, yo.

3340
03:18:01,959 --> 03:18:06,200
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, see like you serious about that phone.

3341
03:18:08,840 --> 03:18:13,320
Speaker 1: You're so Buster, You're so real white notice temple shit. Lord.

3342
03:18:16,320 --> 03:18:19,360
Speaker 3: He was like, it's a one time visit.

3343
03:18:19,480 --> 03:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Lord he was. But I had that yellow machine though

3344
03:18:26,120 --> 03:18:29,520
Speaker 1: they had mad He was like empty that motherfucker. I

3345
03:18:29,640 --> 03:18:34,320
Speaker 1: emptied it for oh shit, this listen. How we doing?

3346
03:18:34,360 --> 03:18:38,280
Speaker 1: How we doing that? We great fish? Hold on, I'll

3347
03:18:38,280 --> 03:18:41,920
Speaker 1: try this. I got this liquids swars Or returned to

3348
03:18:42,000 --> 03:18:47,080
Speaker 1: the thirty six chambers a fifty minute time on them. Okay, okay,

3349
03:18:47,160 --> 03:18:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh I got to like the movie too. I've been

3350
03:18:48,520 --> 03:18:50,480
Speaker 1: been a twenty minute timer. I didn't do the movie.

3351
03:18:50,520 --> 03:18:52,800
Speaker 1: We do the movie all right, cool, okay, So liquid

3352
03:18:52,840 --> 03:18:55,760
Speaker 1: swars or return to the thirty six chambers in which way?

3353
03:18:56,080 --> 03:19:02,320
Speaker 1: Whichever way you I mean, I think that's fair easy one,

3354
03:19:04,240 --> 03:19:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh it's hard. Well, well that's what I said. I

3355
03:19:07,200 --> 03:19:11,160
Speaker 1: said on which way? They both are two unique things, right.

3356
03:19:12,000 --> 03:19:13,560
Speaker 1: But if you want to be like like in the

3357
03:19:13,640 --> 03:19:18,680
Speaker 1: hip hop canaan, people gonna say liquids wards. Right. But

3358
03:19:19,720 --> 03:19:23,480
Speaker 1: the thing that O d B did and and and

3359
03:19:23,560 --> 03:19:26,240
Speaker 1: that this is trying to make my answers shorter. It

3360
03:19:26,280 --> 03:19:27,960
Speaker 1: should like you canna put a two minute time on me?

3361
03:19:28,240 --> 03:19:30,960
Speaker 1: You're good, right. The thing that od B did, which

3362
03:19:30,959 --> 03:19:34,400
Speaker 1: people don't realize od ODIB made the first hip hop

3363
03:19:34,480 --> 03:19:41,920
Speaker 1: comedy album. I thought, okay about that, Okay, Okay, I'll

3364
03:19:41,959 --> 03:19:44,120
Speaker 1: say Biz is the father. You're right? Okay? Yeah, so

3365
03:19:44,240 --> 03:19:49,400
Speaker 1: od b od B modern, he brought it to the tradition. Yeah,

3366
03:19:50,120 --> 03:19:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm his short is almost Richard Priory, you know what

3367
03:19:52,840 --> 03:19:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean. And and and for me creating it with him,

3368
03:19:58,640 --> 03:20:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, it was like intentional. One of the best

3369
03:20:02,840 --> 03:20:06,280
Speaker 1: beats on the album to me was called going Down

3370
03:20:07,440 --> 03:20:11,640
Speaker 1: and that beat was actually for Havoc and Ship would

3371
03:20:11,720 --> 03:20:13,640
Speaker 1: have it because Steven, like, could you help produce mob

3372
03:20:13,720 --> 03:20:16,320
Speaker 1: Deep album and then I met Havoc before. But but

3373
03:20:16,400 --> 03:20:18,480
Speaker 1: then when we met in the office that day, I

3374
03:20:18,560 --> 03:20:21,119
Speaker 1: was like, you don't need me, gud, Let's do it yourself,

3375
03:20:21,280 --> 03:20:23,960
Speaker 1: like the same thing what you call or told me

3376
03:20:25,080 --> 03:20:29,440
Speaker 1: daddy O. I said to him, like, produce all your own. Yeah, yes,

3377
03:20:29,520 --> 03:20:31,760
Speaker 1: that's in bunk bong. He made some of the best

3378
03:20:31,800 --> 03:20:35,600
Speaker 1: shiits in history, right, but I still had but I

3379
03:20:35,800 --> 03:20:40,480
Speaker 1: promised on one and it was this track called going Down.

3380
03:20:41,120 --> 03:20:45,160
Speaker 1: But then, oh, d beasts, I wanted, that's not how

3381
03:20:45,160 --> 03:20:47,800
Speaker 1: I got you have you want. But in the middle

3382
03:20:47,800 --> 03:20:53,520
Speaker 1: of that track, he's his wisdy. They upstairs cooking fish

3383
03:20:54,160 --> 03:20:56,760
Speaker 1: up in the upstairs and they and they and they

3384
03:20:56,920 --> 03:21:00,520
Speaker 1: cook and ship and were down the studio. He's like, yo,

3385
03:21:00,600 --> 03:21:06,240
Speaker 1: god uh, I want to do something crazy in the middle,

3386
03:21:06,680 --> 03:21:08,200
Speaker 1: so what I want my whirs to come down and

3387
03:21:08,360 --> 03:21:14,520
Speaker 1: argue with me. I said, that's genius. So I said, Yo,

3388
03:21:14,920 --> 03:21:17,600
Speaker 1: come down, Damn you guys gonna get too an argument.

3389
03:21:17,680 --> 03:21:21,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna record this ship And they record an argument.

3390
03:21:21,680 --> 03:21:23,960
Speaker 1: But there was a real argument. I mean good enough,

3391
03:21:26,959 --> 03:21:29,760
Speaker 1: good enough though, like me and Actlan And then the

3392
03:21:29,879 --> 03:21:33,520
Speaker 1: gag was in the middle of that argument, He's gonna

3393
03:21:33,560 --> 03:21:39,280
Speaker 1: sing somewhere over the rainbow, and he doesn't. And that's

3394
03:21:39,320 --> 03:21:42,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of a song, so so so that

3395
03:21:42,640 --> 03:21:45,320
Speaker 1: so no other album can do that, and then and

3396
03:21:45,400 --> 03:21:49,119
Speaker 1: the whole can. So ODB brought something to the table

3397
03:21:49,200 --> 03:21:53,680
Speaker 1: that's crazily unique and and like he said, it was new,

3398
03:21:53,959 --> 03:21:54,680
Speaker 1: a new chamber.

3399
03:21:54,879 --> 03:21:57,640
Speaker 3: So how often did he do that? Did he insert

3400
03:21:57,760 --> 03:21:59,800
Speaker 3: his vision on the tracks for his.

3401
03:22:00,320 --> 03:22:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean know for me and him? Yes, he like

3402
03:22:03,360 --> 03:22:07,920
Speaker 1: like like there's times where as the abbot I demand

3403
03:22:07,959 --> 03:22:10,680
Speaker 1: what he do, right because I because I would have

3404
03:22:10,720 --> 03:22:12,480
Speaker 1: that position, I canna SAYO, you're going to do this?

3405
03:22:13,160 --> 03:22:15,880
Speaker 1: They promised that give me five years of saying I

3406
03:22:15,959 --> 03:22:19,120
Speaker 1: can say whatever I want to say, right, everybody agreed,

3407
03:22:19,400 --> 03:22:20,720
Speaker 1: So it was time I told him do this to

3408
03:22:20,800 --> 03:22:23,840
Speaker 1: know this like, this is the track stump. He made

3409
03:22:23,920 --> 03:22:27,120
Speaker 1: that track and then gave it to me to finish. Wow,

3410
03:22:28,200 --> 03:22:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I said, yo, go buy a saw. He

3411
03:22:30,680 --> 03:22:32,600
Speaker 1: bought an asol. He only made four beats in his

3412
03:22:32,680 --> 03:22:38,760
Speaker 1: whole life because he really wasn't that patient, right, you

3413
03:22:38,840 --> 03:22:40,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But he made that track stump,

3414
03:22:41,280 --> 03:22:42,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just add the Purans

3415
03:22:42,720 --> 03:22:45,720
Speaker 1: and some other shit to it. But that's so. That's that.

3416
03:22:45,840 --> 03:22:46,000
Speaker 4: You know.

3417
03:22:46,240 --> 03:22:49,080
Speaker 1: He was very involved with his album. But certain things

3418
03:22:49,120 --> 03:22:50,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, you're doing this, you're doing that.

3419
03:22:50,520 --> 03:22:52,280
Speaker 1: I need this, or remember that song you did when

3420
03:22:52,280 --> 03:22:54,680
Speaker 1: you was a kid. I need this. But when he

3421
03:22:54,920 --> 03:22:58,000
Speaker 1: when you hear us say he has one song where

3422
03:22:58,000 --> 03:22:59,920
Speaker 1: he does the same, he has two songs on the

3423
03:23:00,080 --> 03:23:05,160
Speaker 1: album and they they both got the same verse, the

3424
03:23:05,240 --> 03:23:11,000
Speaker 1: exact same verse on two separate songs on the same album.

3425
03:23:12,160 --> 03:23:15,520
Speaker 1: It's called damn It. He does the same rhyme on

3426
03:23:16,640 --> 03:23:18,960
Speaker 1: three songs. If you really check it, he dos a

3427
03:23:19,000 --> 03:23:24,560
Speaker 1: piece of it for another song. What he said, Yo, God,

3428
03:23:24,640 --> 03:23:28,000
Speaker 1: trust me. That's all right, I trust you.

3429
03:23:28,640 --> 03:23:31,400
Speaker 3: When he did shame on the Nigga, he came in

3430
03:23:31,600 --> 03:23:32,760
Speaker 3: so late in the studios.

3431
03:23:32,920 --> 03:23:36,000
Speaker 1: I was angry. I said, when you say the fuck

3432
03:23:36,040 --> 03:23:37,920
Speaker 1: that God was? They had the bitch with him and ship,

3433
03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:41,680
Speaker 1: Yo God, just trying to mic on because it is

3434
03:23:41,840 --> 03:23:44,040
Speaker 1: my cousin, and you know if I go at it

3435
03:23:44,160 --> 03:23:46,480
Speaker 1: it will be a two hour argument. Then Wenna get

3436
03:23:46,520 --> 03:23:48,600
Speaker 1: to work. He's like, let me turn the mic on

3437
03:23:49,160 --> 03:23:51,840
Speaker 1: on the who went in there in one take Nigga?

3438
03:23:51,920 --> 03:23:55,800
Speaker 1: He did that song wow, same on the Nigga to

3439
03:23:55,840 --> 03:23:59,560
Speaker 1: try the one game on a nigga bow. I was like,

3440
03:23:59,640 --> 03:24:02,720
Speaker 1: now fit finish the hook. God, nah, nigga, that's finished.

3441
03:24:03,840 --> 03:24:06,520
Speaker 1: I said, how you didn't say everything? They gonna love it.

3442
03:24:09,600 --> 03:24:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I kept it. I believe them. Did you

3443
03:24:13,640 --> 03:24:18,400
Speaker 1: really believe them? Though? Yes, okay, I told I believe it.

3444
03:24:18,520 --> 03:24:20,560
Speaker 1: I totally believe them. Take a shot of all the

3445
03:24:21,680 --> 03:24:26,240
Speaker 1: rest in peace. So let me let me tell you something.

3446
03:24:26,520 --> 03:24:28,600
Speaker 1: As a person that knew you for a long time,

3447
03:24:29,520 --> 03:24:32,280
Speaker 1: the one time I felt like this is me as

3448
03:24:32,320 --> 03:24:37,320
Speaker 1: an outsider looking at I felt the uncomfortable situation was

3449
03:24:37,360 --> 03:24:42,760
Speaker 1: when I seen you dirty and Dame dash together right like,

3450
03:24:43,840 --> 03:24:45,520
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna lie like you know what I mean.

3451
03:24:46,920 --> 03:24:49,440
Speaker 1: You saw my uncomfortability like a mother. I saw it

3452
03:24:49,560 --> 03:24:52,640
Speaker 1: because you know, I just one. I'm an artist. I'm

3453
03:24:52,760 --> 03:24:55,280
Speaker 1: in the industry, and I'm watching this through BT right,

3454
03:24:55,360 --> 03:24:57,040
Speaker 1: so I'm not It's not like like it's not no

3455
03:24:57,160 --> 03:25:00,440
Speaker 1: inside information. I'm actually watching this with the people. But

3456
03:25:00,560 --> 03:25:03,200
Speaker 1: I think that you knew that he didn't belong there,

3457
03:25:03,360 --> 03:25:05,320
Speaker 1: or you felt that he didn't belong there. But she

3458
03:25:05,440 --> 03:25:09,160
Speaker 1: was respecting your cousin's decision, and he was respecting your

3459
03:25:09,360 --> 03:25:12,920
Speaker 1: artists because in this game is frowned upon to keep

3460
03:25:13,240 --> 03:25:16,040
Speaker 1: keep somebody right. So you you so you so I

3461
03:25:16,200 --> 03:25:18,520
Speaker 1: saw you let him go, but then I saw you

3462
03:25:18,680 --> 03:25:20,960
Speaker 1: like work with him, but I saw your hurting this

3463
03:25:21,120 --> 03:25:24,039
Speaker 1: in your heart. I don't know if I'm acurate with that, y'all. Okay,

3464
03:25:24,080 --> 03:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm a because like this is me watching on TV,

3465
03:25:27,080 --> 03:25:30,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like that it was bad. Okay.

3466
03:25:30,320 --> 03:25:33,560
Speaker 1: The edit made it worse. Okay, Okay, Like in.

3467
03:25:33,600 --> 03:25:35,240
Speaker 3: The edit, it just shows me and him in the

3468
03:25:35,280 --> 03:25:35,840
Speaker 3: moment with Dame.

3469
03:25:36,440 --> 03:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Then it shows me kind of walking out and you

3470
03:25:39,040 --> 03:25:42,200
Speaker 1: can see my hurt right in the reality. That ain't

3471
03:25:42,200 --> 03:25:45,640
Speaker 1: how it happened, right, And the reality is me and

3472
03:25:45,760 --> 03:25:51,280
Speaker 1: him and Dame m and I told a saw yo,

3473
03:25:51,680 --> 03:25:54,480
Speaker 1: let me and Dame just talk for a minute. Let

3474
03:25:54,480 --> 03:25:57,200
Speaker 1: me let's go ahead. Because he had made the deal

3475
03:25:57,240 --> 03:25:59,640
Speaker 1: with Dame in the jail, right yeah, okay, aeah, I'm

3476
03:25:59,640 --> 03:26:01,960
Speaker 1: sorry this whole other thing. He didn't make the deal

3477
03:26:02,000 --> 03:26:05,800
Speaker 1: with day Oh wow. He had someone have power over

3478
03:26:05,840 --> 03:26:09,120
Speaker 1: attorney while he was locked up, and they made the deal.

3479
03:26:10,400 --> 03:26:12,880
Speaker 1: But as they say, the games to be sol not told, okay,

3480
03:26:13,920 --> 03:26:19,240
Speaker 1: but what Dame said to me, and the part they

3481
03:26:19,400 --> 03:26:23,120
Speaker 1: edited out. He said something to me that I couldn't deny. Yo.

3482
03:26:24,120 --> 03:26:33,560
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, Ris, your family came to me, you

3483
03:26:33,680 --> 03:26:38,280
Speaker 1: meaning Dirty family. The family, Yeah, whoever was representing Dirty

3484
03:26:39,280 --> 03:26:41,720
Speaker 1: his family, like we saw you saw that pressed. Everybody

3485
03:26:41,800 --> 03:26:43,720
Speaker 1: was there his you know, his mom was there, pop whatever,

3486
03:26:43,760 --> 03:26:46,720
Speaker 1: he was there. This is when he came home. He came. Yeah,

3487
03:26:46,760 --> 03:26:49,119
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I had just talked to Dirty already

3488
03:26:49,120 --> 03:26:51,600
Speaker 1: had a deal for him, you know what I mean.

3489
03:26:51,959 --> 03:26:53,160
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, when you come up, I had

3490
03:26:53,200 --> 03:26:54,880
Speaker 1: a deal on a plan. My deal was like, you

3491
03:26:54,959 --> 03:26:57,640
Speaker 1: come home. I built a gym for you. I got

3492
03:26:57,640 --> 03:27:02,080
Speaker 1: an apartment in Manhattan, five thousand square feats udio already Okay,

3493
03:27:02,560 --> 03:27:04,119
Speaker 1: I would said, Yo, you need a woman. I gotta

3494
03:27:04,160 --> 03:27:06,959
Speaker 1: got I got girls. I just send you. I'm serious.

3495
03:27:07,400 --> 03:27:10,880
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, I got you, God, just come home,

3496
03:27:11,879 --> 03:27:15,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. My shit was maybe nine

3497
03:27:15,440 --> 03:27:17,920
Speaker 1: to fifty. I didn't have the M but I had

3498
03:27:17,959 --> 03:27:20,560
Speaker 1: to pay a couple of people, all right, but I

3499
03:27:20,640 --> 03:27:23,039
Speaker 1: got you. I basically had the same M in all reality, right,

3500
03:27:24,160 --> 03:27:26,600
Speaker 1: And he's like cool. And then I flew to Europe

3501
03:27:27,040 --> 03:27:29,280
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Last on you know, the

3502
03:27:29,320 --> 03:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Wizards to do what he does. And then I found

3503
03:27:32,800 --> 03:27:36,800
Speaker 1: out from the press. Wow and so but so anyway,

3504
03:27:36,840 --> 03:27:39,320
Speaker 1: so it was sad for me. But when Dame said

3505
03:27:39,440 --> 03:27:42,760
Speaker 1: was so real in the world of the reality of life.

3506
03:27:42,800 --> 03:27:48,400
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, Chris, nothing loss, it's like to nothing

3507
03:27:48,440 --> 03:27:51,119
Speaker 1: to do with you. Your family came to me, oh

3508
03:27:51,240 --> 03:27:53,040
Speaker 1: and they take They asked me to ask them what

3509
03:27:53,120 --> 03:27:57,320
Speaker 1: they want. They said a million dollars. I said, cool,

3510
03:27:57,520 --> 03:27:59,720
Speaker 1: So that difference made the difference, and I was like,

3511
03:28:00,720 --> 03:28:03,959
Speaker 1: I don't argue with that. M hm, I can't argue

3512
03:28:04,040 --> 03:28:07,000
Speaker 1: with that, right, So then I just asked a sons

3513
03:28:07,040 --> 03:28:09,000
Speaker 1: to what you want to do? He said, yo, god, yeah,

3514
03:28:09,080 --> 03:28:11,600
Speaker 1: let me do this. You know man, I was like,

3515
03:28:12,879 --> 03:28:14,720
Speaker 1: when you so you see seeing me walking out with

3516
03:28:14,760 --> 03:28:18,200
Speaker 1: that soggy, sad face. Because it wasn't about the money

3517
03:28:18,280 --> 03:28:20,640
Speaker 1: or nothing. I could have said, okay, how about two million, right,

3518
03:28:21,520 --> 03:28:28,120
Speaker 1: but I just felt like right, I just felt like, like,

3519
03:28:28,320 --> 03:28:30,440
Speaker 1: like you said, it wasn't it wasn't. It didn't belong there,

3520
03:28:31,400 --> 03:28:32,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You don't want to be

3521
03:28:32,959 --> 03:28:36,120
Speaker 1: a hater, Yeah, I want to be like I'm stopping progress. Yeah,

3522
03:28:36,440 --> 03:28:39,720
Speaker 1: they kind of running the game. They got it. They

3523
03:28:39,760 --> 03:28:42,240
Speaker 1: shine and bright who won't wanted to be signed to

3524
03:28:42,320 --> 03:28:45,960
Speaker 1: rock Fell especially at that time, even you know, yeah,

3525
03:28:46,360 --> 03:28:49,200
Speaker 1: git niggas like, yo, that's that's it. You know what

3526
03:28:49,240 --> 03:28:51,959
Speaker 1: I mean, It's like, that's what it is. But I'm

3527
03:28:51,959 --> 03:28:54,199
Speaker 1: gonna tell you again. You could correct me if I'm wrong,

3528
03:28:54,640 --> 03:28:56,720
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that when I've seen it to you,

3529
03:28:58,200 --> 03:29:01,440
Speaker 1: it was you you with the wrong not not the

3530
03:29:01,520 --> 03:29:04,600
Speaker 1: wrong people meaning like the wrong people, but you I

3531
03:29:04,720 --> 03:29:07,160
Speaker 1: know how to make you sound exactly.

3532
03:29:07,320 --> 03:29:09,039
Speaker 3: I know, like that's that's what I was taking.

3533
03:29:09,120 --> 03:29:11,320
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I was like, I never said,

3534
03:29:11,560 --> 03:29:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I want to say. I

3535
03:29:12,800 --> 03:29:15,520
Speaker 1: want to say. Disappointment maybe is a word like that

3536
03:29:15,640 --> 03:29:18,480
Speaker 1: you were. I was super disappointed. Okay if you saw that,

3537
03:29:19,080 --> 03:29:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, they say a camera catch right now whatever,

3538
03:29:21,480 --> 03:29:23,760
Speaker 1: the camera catch a nigga as well, they say the

3539
03:29:23,840 --> 03:29:25,280
Speaker 1: camera see through your bullshit?

3540
03:29:25,560 --> 03:29:27,600
Speaker 3: Right because you had a vision. You had a vision

3541
03:29:27,640 --> 03:29:28,400
Speaker 3: for what he was gonna do.

3542
03:29:28,959 --> 03:29:29,080
Speaker 4: Right.

3543
03:29:29,680 --> 03:29:32,680
Speaker 1: My vision wasn't only for his music, was for his life, right, right,

3544
03:29:32,720 --> 03:29:34,920
Speaker 1: You had a vision. People don't realize this. And I

3545
03:29:34,920 --> 03:29:36,760
Speaker 1: always got to throw something on top of things. You

3546
03:29:36,800 --> 03:29:38,680
Speaker 1: know me, as you know me, you know me, I'm

3547
03:29:38,720 --> 03:29:41,720
Speaker 1: doing on your whole show, But yo gee, how far

3548
03:29:41,879 --> 03:29:45,720
Speaker 1: you become from yourself? So let's say a nigga's two

3549
03:29:45,800 --> 03:29:48,080
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and now he's four hundred pounds. How much

3550
03:29:48,160 --> 03:29:50,720
Speaker 1: other shit other than himself? And he put on hisself?

3551
03:29:52,280 --> 03:29:54,480
Speaker 1: That's what a lesson says. How did he do it?

3552
03:29:54,680 --> 03:29:58,000
Speaker 1: It made him other than himself? Once you make you once,

3553
03:29:58,080 --> 03:30:01,600
Speaker 1: I canna make you other than yourself. I can make

3554
03:30:01,640 --> 03:30:04,920
Speaker 1: you suck that crack pipe like a motherfucker. Let's as

3555
03:30:04,920 --> 03:30:06,960
Speaker 1: they say, porky is pork is anything that makes you

3556
03:30:07,000 --> 03:30:10,359
Speaker 1: other than yourself, not just the exactly to meet exactly.

3557
03:30:10,560 --> 03:30:13,160
Speaker 3: Pork is anything exactly. Swine is something that makes you

3558
03:30:13,280 --> 03:30:13,760
Speaker 3: other than.

3559
03:30:13,720 --> 03:30:16,160
Speaker 1: Yourselther than yourself exactly, so you become you might not

3560
03:30:16,240 --> 03:30:19,160
Speaker 1: know you other than yourself? Right, you know what I mean?

3561
03:30:19,240 --> 03:30:19,840
Speaker 1: You sitting there, you.

3562
03:30:19,840 --> 03:30:22,360
Speaker 3: Don't even realize that, yo gee, you used.

3563
03:30:22,240 --> 03:30:25,160
Speaker 1: To be the mac daddy don and you're doing You're

3564
03:30:25,160 --> 03:30:28,400
Speaker 1: sitting you done fucked around and and saansing Us left

3565
03:30:28,440 --> 03:30:30,800
Speaker 1: with the light of for fucking eight months and now

3566
03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:34,280
Speaker 1: he's like the dick drain and muscles ain't working and

3567
03:30:34,360 --> 03:30:38,680
Speaker 1: the bitch cut his head. You other than yourself, and

3568
03:30:38,720 --> 03:30:40,720
Speaker 1: then you had to go back and pray to a

3569
03:30:40,800 --> 03:30:43,760
Speaker 1: law to get that stript back. But then he still

3570
03:30:43,800 --> 03:30:46,400
Speaker 1: got to do what dyeing his own iniquity. That's what

3571
03:30:46,520 --> 03:30:49,920
Speaker 1: a lesson says in Execus chapter three. It says, you

3572
03:30:50,080 --> 03:30:52,960
Speaker 1: can get a warning and you can save, but you

3573
03:30:53,040 --> 03:30:56,880
Speaker 1: still have to die your iniquity so other than itself.

3574
03:30:57,600 --> 03:30:59,360
Speaker 1: When I when I saw a song come out of

3575
03:30:59,400 --> 03:31:03,320
Speaker 1: the system, because a son is first of all, a

3576
03:31:03,480 --> 03:31:06,120
Speaker 1: song was flying, and most of the WOO members at first,

3577
03:31:08,120 --> 03:31:11,360
Speaker 1: A song almost brought Polo and Ballei the stat Now

3578
03:31:12,600 --> 03:31:16,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about it for a quick moment. Okay, A

3579
03:31:16,200 --> 03:31:19,440
Speaker 1: song is a nigga coming from Brooklyn, my cousin coming

3580
03:31:19,520 --> 03:31:22,680
Speaker 1: in with Bam Lamo Polo all the way down. Nigga

3581
03:31:23,520 --> 03:31:27,080
Speaker 1: and niggas are still bill blasts, and bill blasts might

3582
03:31:27,160 --> 03:31:29,320
Speaker 1: when Bill Blase I got somebody, okare you gotta get away?

3583
03:31:32,040 --> 03:31:33,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A song is that guy.

3584
03:31:34,440 --> 03:31:38,000
Speaker 1: He was a song unique, He was flying. You know,

3585
03:31:38,040 --> 03:31:41,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't an old dirty bast. He became older. I

3586
03:31:41,320 --> 03:31:44,360
Speaker 1: gave him that name, and the materialized. I gave him

3587
03:31:44,360 --> 03:31:46,200
Speaker 1: that name for a different reason. We're talking about another time.

3588
03:31:46,680 --> 03:31:49,440
Speaker 1: But I didn't expect it to overtake him. That's why

3589
03:31:49,480 --> 03:31:52,879
Speaker 1: I said the word is powerful. But when he came

3590
03:31:52,920 --> 03:31:58,879
Speaker 1: out of the system, he wasn't neither right get out

3591
03:31:58,879 --> 03:32:02,560
Speaker 1: of jail. Okay, you know it wasn't wasn't neither none

3592
03:32:02,600 --> 03:32:05,560
Speaker 1: of those names. It was something else. And then when

3593
03:32:05,600 --> 03:32:08,200
Speaker 1: they then they didn't inurture to find and go back

3594
03:32:08,240 --> 03:32:11,600
Speaker 1: and find him. They didn't nurture. I think that's interesting

3595
03:32:11,680 --> 03:32:13,840
Speaker 1: what you said earlier. I think you said you had

3596
03:32:13,840 --> 03:32:15,360
Speaker 1: an apartment for him, but you said you had the

3597
03:32:15,440 --> 03:32:18,800
Speaker 1: gym fall. Yeah, exactly. I knew that he needed that.

3598
03:32:20,560 --> 03:32:25,120
Speaker 1: Most people come home from jail in shape shape, but

3599
03:32:25,240 --> 03:32:30,120
Speaker 1: that that that the people that come home that gain weight.

3600
03:32:30,959 --> 03:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm mainly depressed because jail food sucks. So that means

3601
03:32:34,640 --> 03:32:36,520
Speaker 1: they had to go to the commissary and eat all

3602
03:32:36,720 --> 03:32:40,240
Speaker 1: those dirty snacks, not just that. Yeah, like, do you

3603
03:32:40,280 --> 03:32:42,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm sugary snacks? You're right about that. No,

3604
03:32:42,160 --> 03:32:45,560
Speaker 1: you're right about because regular commsary I mean regular food

3605
03:32:45,800 --> 03:32:49,080
Speaker 1: sucks keep you in shape, though, Yeah, but it will

3606
03:32:49,160 --> 03:32:50,360
Speaker 1: keep you in shape, you know what I mean, because

3607
03:32:50,520 --> 03:32:54,920
Speaker 1: it's processed carbs. But if you go into the the

3608
03:32:55,320 --> 03:33:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know that's all common hydrogs are. That's

3609
03:33:01,800 --> 03:33:04,560
Speaker 1: what the oreos are. That's where the twinkies are. That's

3610
03:33:04,600 --> 03:33:06,760
Speaker 1: what all that is. So that's but that's that's a

3611
03:33:06,800 --> 03:33:10,000
Speaker 1: side of depression. Yeah, there's the side of the depression. Listen,

3612
03:33:10,760 --> 03:33:14,560
Speaker 1: A son unique don't belong in a cage. A song

3613
03:33:14,680 --> 03:33:17,440
Speaker 1: is one of the A son unique for all our

3614
03:33:17,760 --> 03:33:24,960
Speaker 1: listeners out there. Old Dirty was freedom put into a body,

3615
03:33:25,879 --> 03:33:30,800
Speaker 1: a large merciful He always sends something for us. If

3616
03:33:30,840 --> 03:33:32,959
Speaker 1: Old Dirty didn't exist, and the rest of the wool

3617
03:33:33,000 --> 03:33:38,119
Speaker 1: don't understand what freedom means, freedom of expression, Old Dirty

3618
03:33:38,280 --> 03:33:43,200
Speaker 1: was freedom itself, and he was. You know, if you've

3619
03:33:43,240 --> 03:33:45,560
Speaker 1: seen Old Dirty right now, If Old Dirty was coming back,

3620
03:33:45,640 --> 03:33:48,760
Speaker 1: if we were doing this interview right now and Dirty

3621
03:33:48,879 --> 03:33:52,480
Speaker 1: walked in, whatever he wanted to do is what is

3622
03:33:52,560 --> 03:33:55,280
Speaker 1: going to happen, and we're going to do. Cameras are nothing.

3623
03:33:55,360 --> 03:33:59,119
Speaker 1: None of that means nothing. If you had to piss

3624
03:33:59,200 --> 03:34:01,600
Speaker 1: and he came in and in this container right here,

3625
03:34:03,000 --> 03:34:05,840
Speaker 1: he would have did it and left and it would

3626
03:34:05,879 --> 03:34:12,280
Speaker 1: have just been like, that's that's what foppened. God damn,

3627
03:34:12,600 --> 03:34:15,360
Speaker 1: it would have been. Yo. He so the time he

3628
03:34:15,600 --> 03:34:19,240
Speaker 1: yo yo, he was driving on the on the on

3629
03:34:19,320 --> 03:34:24,480
Speaker 1: the Verrizonal Bridge turned this cost sideways, blocked traffic. Nigga,

3630
03:34:25,920 --> 03:34:27,600
Speaker 1: mind you he's driving with a forty I'm mighty had

3631
03:34:27,640 --> 03:34:32,200
Speaker 1: passed your seat hit in ninety. It's a dangerous ride, bro.

3632
03:34:32,959 --> 03:34:36,160
Speaker 1: But now he pulls, stops the whole traffic like a cop.

3633
03:34:37,200 --> 03:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Get out and take some piss, gets back in the

3634
03:34:41,040 --> 03:34:43,880
Speaker 1: car and drop the Yeah. God. So anyway, like I

3635
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:48,240
Speaker 1: was saying, he was embodying the freedom. Now take a

3636
03:34:48,280 --> 03:34:53,360
Speaker 1: guy like that and put him in jail. Yeah, he

3637
03:34:53,440 --> 03:34:55,640
Speaker 1: couldn't take it. They said he tried to set himself

3638
03:34:55,680 --> 03:34:58,760
Speaker 1: on fire in jail. Shot it. I saw the documentary.

3639
03:34:58,760 --> 03:35:00,080
Speaker 1: He said, Oh did he tried to set hrself on

3640
03:35:00,200 --> 03:35:03,840
Speaker 1: fire in jail? He couldn't take that. This guy is free.

3641
03:35:04,720 --> 03:35:10,920
Speaker 1: So when he comes out, you're seeing let be suppressed energy.

3642
03:35:11,920 --> 03:35:15,000
Speaker 1: And then like you said, the hydros and the audios

3643
03:35:15,320 --> 03:35:16,920
Speaker 1: more that's now growing around here.

3644
03:35:16,920 --> 03:35:17,720
Speaker 3: Muted and muted.

3645
03:35:18,040 --> 03:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now he's now he's not the one man

3646
03:35:22,040 --> 03:35:25,560
Speaker 1: on a sawn no more. Right, So anyway, yeah, this

3647
03:35:25,680 --> 03:35:29,680
Speaker 1: is crazy. The other day, I's had an argument two

3648
03:35:29,720 --> 03:35:32,400
Speaker 1: people out of argument and they were saying, oh, what's alcohol,

3649
03:35:32,480 --> 03:35:34,760
Speaker 1: And it was like, man, sugar is ten times worse

3650
03:35:34,800 --> 03:35:38,680
Speaker 1: than alcohol, like because sugar sends you in a state

3651
03:35:38,720 --> 03:35:42,119
Speaker 1: of depression. You know what I mean, if you're strong enough,

3652
03:35:42,160 --> 03:35:45,760
Speaker 1: you could like just kind of like alcohol, alcohol turns

3653
03:35:45,760 --> 03:35:54,400
Speaker 1: into sugar. List like you got to drinking water.

3654
03:35:54,520 --> 03:35:58,120
Speaker 3: Now he went to the bathroom twice, has been there

3655
03:35:58,200 --> 03:35:58,840
Speaker 3: for four hours.

3656
03:35:59,680 --> 03:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Don't be listen, guys, question it's drink that I'm drinking.

3657
03:36:08,520 --> 03:36:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm drinking drink. So let's speak it that that famous incident,

3658
03:36:13,840 --> 03:36:17,960
Speaker 1: that famous that famous incident in the Grammy? Was it

3659
03:36:18,080 --> 03:36:23,480
Speaker 1: the Grammys where yeah song says who takes for the children? Yeah?

3660
03:36:23,920 --> 03:36:27,400
Speaker 1: Like what happened that time y'all didn't written the award? Yeah,

3661
03:36:27,400 --> 03:36:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact thing. I wasn't physically there,

3662
03:36:30,959 --> 03:36:34,560
Speaker 1: but he was. He said something that was actually profound.

3663
03:36:35,120 --> 03:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they gave the best hip hop album? Was

3664
03:36:38,160 --> 03:36:40,440
Speaker 1: a hip hop or rap? What's the category? Same ship

3665
03:36:40,959 --> 03:36:43,240
Speaker 1: to them they gave. They gave it to I think

3666
03:36:43,320 --> 03:36:48,240
Speaker 1: Pete Diddy at that time versus w Tan mhmm. It's

3667
03:36:48,280 --> 03:36:51,480
Speaker 1: like that don't make sense, right, No disrespect to their

3668
03:36:52,200 --> 03:36:54,760
Speaker 1: creativity and what they gained and all their record sells.

3669
03:36:55,440 --> 03:37:00,800
Speaker 1: It's almost like, uh, if I was shoot guys, right,

3670
03:37:00,879 --> 03:37:06,160
Speaker 1: now thank you no disrespect that he sold the most

3671
03:37:06,240 --> 03:37:08,960
Speaker 1: liketords out of all of us. If I told you

3672
03:37:09,080 --> 03:37:13,560
Speaker 1: who is the better rapper, Vanilla Ice or NAS, and

3673
03:37:13,680 --> 03:37:15,600
Speaker 1: somebody say Vanilla Ice, how you're gonna be And I

3674
03:37:15,600 --> 03:37:18,560
Speaker 1: ain't saying, I'm just saying, you know what you're saying,

3675
03:37:18,840 --> 03:37:21,840
Speaker 1: Vanila I sold more records than NAS. I get you

3676
03:37:22,200 --> 03:37:25,720
Speaker 1: exactly what you're saying. But who has the better album?

3677
03:37:26,080 --> 03:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean hip hop? Yeah, I mean who has the

3678
03:37:29,120 --> 03:37:33,640
Speaker 1: better hip hop's life? Who has the better hip not absolutely? Yeah,

3679
03:37:34,040 --> 03:37:37,040
Speaker 1: you're hip hop exactly Like so that's what God he

3680
03:37:37,160 --> 03:37:40,880
Speaker 1: was saying. It's like, yo, you know, for the Puffy

3681
03:37:40,959 --> 03:37:43,240
Speaker 1: is you're speaking for hip hop. Yeah, Puffy is good,

3682
03:37:43,320 --> 03:37:47,320
Speaker 1: Puffy's great, Puffy did what he did, but boutang, Yeah,

3683
03:37:47,879 --> 03:37:49,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, he says for the children,

3684
03:37:49,560 --> 03:37:52,960
Speaker 1: meaning he met like, Yo, it's better, right, It's better

3685
03:37:53,040 --> 03:37:56,880
Speaker 1: for you who tanks It's a better bet, you know

3686
03:37:56,879 --> 03:38:01,400
Speaker 1: what I mean? And and and do that ship. No,

3687
03:38:02,440 --> 03:38:05,240
Speaker 1: that's one thing that's freedom. Think about this. I don't

3688
03:38:05,240 --> 03:38:08,200
Speaker 1: know because I wasn't there, but this is imagine a fuss.

3689
03:38:09,120 --> 03:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Here's a guy in the audience that's not giving no

3690
03:38:12,959 --> 03:38:17,000
Speaker 1: announcement tonight. He's not scheduled for no appearance on the

3691
03:38:17,040 --> 03:38:20,280
Speaker 1: stage called O DV. Yeah, but he was dressed like

3692
03:38:20,400 --> 03:38:23,080
Speaker 1: it though he is, he's dressed shop he sees. He said,

3693
03:38:23,240 --> 03:38:27,120
Speaker 1: I spent three thousand hours on my suit. He said

3694
03:38:27,160 --> 03:38:30,120
Speaker 1: it on the mic. We got that. Remember that, here's

3695
03:38:30,200 --> 03:38:32,400
Speaker 1: a guy that's not you know, they got a list.

3696
03:38:33,720 --> 03:38:37,160
Speaker 1: He ain't scheduled on the list. How the fuck he

3697
03:38:37,200 --> 03:38:43,400
Speaker 1: get from his seat through the auditorium to the security

3698
03:38:44,160 --> 03:38:47,720
Speaker 1: to the mic to say he walk with Mariah Carey.

3699
03:38:47,800 --> 03:38:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm making this up. Okay, even if he did that, Okay,

3700
03:38:51,760 --> 03:38:55,400
Speaker 1: how did how how he is up on the stage, Well,

3701
03:38:55,560 --> 03:38:58,920
Speaker 1: he's like looking at that look at their qu sheets,

3702
03:38:59,680 --> 03:39:04,120
Speaker 1: like this is not in the show program the Kanye

3703
03:39:04,240 --> 03:39:08,240
Speaker 1: West been his ship? Yeah, Kanye say ye, Kanye said,

3704
03:39:09,000 --> 03:39:11,440
Speaker 1: Kanye did it this way right, Well, Kanye did it

3705
03:39:11,640 --> 03:39:13,560
Speaker 1: to tell Swift. Yeah, he did a tailor swim. But

3706
03:39:13,560 --> 03:39:15,560
Speaker 1: he walked from his seat right there in the front

3707
03:39:15,600 --> 03:39:18,879
Speaker 1: off the steps, right. Dirty had to do some ship

3708
03:39:19,080 --> 03:39:23,720
Speaker 1: like but we didn't know that.

3709
03:39:23,959 --> 03:39:27,680
Speaker 3: He wasn't even close. No, we'll know where he came

3710
03:39:27,760 --> 03:39:28,280
Speaker 3: from Rome.

3711
03:39:29,280 --> 03:39:30,320
Speaker 5: He's not even on the other.

3712
03:39:30,320 --> 03:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Shots of the camera. If you watched the whole episode

3713
03:39:32,959 --> 03:39:36,200
Speaker 1: of the show. You don't even see the shot go

3714
03:39:36,800 --> 03:39:41,720
Speaker 1: faster Thange. Listen, he poured some ship off only a

3715
03:39:41,840 --> 03:39:47,520
Speaker 1: free man could pull off. He's like fucked everything. Steve

3716
03:39:47,600 --> 03:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Rifkott said that he was. He Steve Wigan said that

3717
03:39:51,760 --> 03:39:54,360
Speaker 1: he was at his house him and his fire shot

3718
03:39:54,440 --> 03:39:57,680
Speaker 1: him up. That god damn. But anyway, because Steve lived

3719
03:39:57,680 --> 03:39:59,959
Speaker 1: on fifty Year Street like that town, and he said

3720
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:02,840
Speaker 1: he came to his clip before and after. So that's

3721
03:40:02,840 --> 03:40:04,760
Speaker 1: a whole other story that would get from Steve one day.

3722
03:40:05,160 --> 03:40:09,920
Speaker 1: He don't drink. But anyway, the freedom of dirty was

3723
03:40:10,040 --> 03:40:12,480
Speaker 1: bottled up while he was in jail, and when he

3724
03:40:12,560 --> 03:40:15,160
Speaker 1: came out he was not hisself. And when he got

3725
03:40:15,200 --> 03:40:18,000
Speaker 1: to RockA Feller, he was not himself. And we never

3726
03:40:18,120 --> 03:40:23,119
Speaker 1: got a chance to build the full shedding of everything

3727
03:40:23,120 --> 03:40:25,800
Speaker 1: that was upon him, to let the unique a song

3728
03:40:25,879 --> 03:40:28,560
Speaker 1: blossom again. But we've been blessed through the through the

3729
03:40:28,720 --> 03:40:32,000
Speaker 1: mostary of a law that his son wyd B goes

3730
03:40:32,080 --> 03:40:33,960
Speaker 1: on tour with the wool like that. I like that,

3731
03:40:34,040 --> 03:40:36,720
Speaker 1: so before all performs all his father love is and

3732
03:40:36,800 --> 03:40:39,959
Speaker 1: that's another blessing for our family. I'm not gonna lie

3733
03:40:40,000 --> 03:40:42,520
Speaker 1: to you. I forget what because I went to the

3734
03:40:42,600 --> 03:40:45,520
Speaker 1: Paras show. I forget what other show. This wasn't on tour.

3735
03:40:45,600 --> 03:40:48,800
Speaker 1: This was like just a random who show you two

3736
03:40:48,879 --> 03:40:51,720
Speaker 1: wool shows I went to and I sent him on

3737
03:40:51,800 --> 03:40:54,200
Speaker 1: stage and I was like, yo, DP, he still got it.

3738
03:40:54,320 --> 03:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I was talking to myself like.

3739
03:40:55,400 --> 03:40:58,040
Speaker 3: What the I was like, Yo, that's a little bit

3740
03:40:58,280 --> 03:41:00,959
Speaker 3: because you you know, like he has is brand, like.

3741
03:41:02,440 --> 03:41:06,120
Speaker 1: He has the energy. And I'm meaning, I know it's

3742
03:41:06,200 --> 03:41:09,480
Speaker 1: O DB's son, but his he he, he embraces the

3743
03:41:09,600 --> 03:41:12,400
Speaker 1: characters so much that I don't call him O DBS son.

3744
03:41:12,440 --> 03:41:14,520
Speaker 1: I say, I call him O d B. But me

3745
03:41:14,720 --> 03:41:18,280
Speaker 1: saying that, like, I'm like, what a minute, that's that's

3746
03:41:18,360 --> 03:41:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of like crazy. So let's make let's take a

3747
03:41:21,040 --> 03:41:27,400
Speaker 1: shot for shot n Y d B mm hmm. Was

3748
03:41:27,400 --> 03:41:31,560
Speaker 1: about how much we got less we're about. I want

3749
03:41:31,560 --> 03:41:32,200
Speaker 1: to take this now.

3750
03:41:32,480 --> 03:41:35,039
Speaker 4: Okay, go first, I'm going to you, and I'm going

3751
03:41:35,040 --> 03:41:37,359
Speaker 4: after everybody because all right, cook, I don't.

3752
03:41:37,160 --> 03:41:43,360
Speaker 1: Need to be uncomfortlated. First off, you have so many movies,

3753
03:41:43,440 --> 03:41:46,960
Speaker 1: so many things that you scored, so many but let's

3754
03:41:46,959 --> 03:41:50,440
Speaker 1: talk about this. You've got a new new project. Yes, indeed,

3755
03:41:51,320 --> 03:41:53,240
Speaker 1: let's let's take a shot for it. First, take a shot. First,

3756
03:41:53,440 --> 03:41:55,320
Speaker 1: we're taking a shot to my new film. It's called

3757
03:41:55,400 --> 03:41:58,959
Speaker 1: One Spoon of Chocolate one and this is your film,

3758
03:41:59,120 --> 03:42:09,480
Speaker 1: my film directed, written, written, directed, directed, produced by my wife.

3759
03:42:09,800 --> 03:42:12,039
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know what I mean? So double bum.

3760
03:42:13,920 --> 03:42:14,200
Speaker 5: Double.

3761
03:42:17,000 --> 03:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean you told me that your wife, she has

3762
03:42:18,959 --> 03:42:21,840
Speaker 1: two July way, she'd be here in a second. So,

3763
03:42:22,000 --> 03:42:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about that for a quick second.

3764
03:42:23,920 --> 03:42:27,280
Speaker 1: You talk about the movie. But the beauty of the

3765
03:42:27,480 --> 03:42:32,920
Speaker 1: power of the wisdom or the woman. Right, A lot

3766
03:42:32,959 --> 03:42:35,560
Speaker 1: of dudes, especially in our the generation before us, there

3767
03:42:35,640 --> 03:42:38,920
Speaker 1: was so many pimps, and that culture was the mindset

3768
03:42:38,959 --> 03:42:39,480
Speaker 1: of our people.

3769
03:42:39,840 --> 03:42:42,880
Speaker 3: We didn't recognize the value of the woman.

3770
03:42:43,280 --> 03:42:46,560
Speaker 1: There's like and there's a sample on Cuban Links where

3771
03:42:46,560 --> 03:42:50,000
Speaker 1: the God says, yeah, man, I keep a bitch. When

3772
03:42:50,040 --> 03:42:52,360
Speaker 1: I got a bitch, I keep a bit shaking. He said,

3773
03:42:53,160 --> 03:42:55,880
Speaker 1: I give her money, and I'm sorry, I'll give a

3774
03:42:55,959 --> 03:43:00,600
Speaker 1: clothes jewelry with no money. Because I give a girl money,

3775
03:43:01,800 --> 03:43:06,480
Speaker 1: she would lose her mind. Right, So the old school

3776
03:43:06,680 --> 03:43:11,000
Speaker 1: mindset was that don't give your woman the money. You

3777
03:43:11,320 --> 03:43:15,199
Speaker 1: control the money and let her just have some clothing

3778
03:43:15,280 --> 03:43:20,720
Speaker 1: and jury that's foolish, because who take care of your house?

3779
03:43:21,520 --> 03:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Who take care of the home. The woman who's gonna

3780
03:43:24,800 --> 03:43:27,800
Speaker 1: make sure the kids go to school and and put

3781
03:43:27,840 --> 03:43:30,200
Speaker 1: the kids in their proper clothing and their proper equate

3782
03:43:30,920 --> 03:43:32,240
Speaker 1: how's she gonna do that? She gotta wait for you

3783
03:43:32,320 --> 03:43:35,200
Speaker 1: to write to check, you know what I mean. So

3784
03:43:35,320 --> 03:43:41,480
Speaker 1: the jewel that people forgot is that kings don't build

3785
03:43:41,640 --> 03:43:48,119
Speaker 1: castles for kings. A king build a castle for the queen.

3786
03:43:49,200 --> 03:43:50,160
Speaker 1: That's right, you know what it is.

3787
03:43:50,320 --> 03:43:51,080
Speaker 3: King build.

3788
03:43:54,440 --> 03:43:57,040
Speaker 1: He felt that, He said, Yo, we don't build. We

3789
03:43:57,080 --> 03:43:59,480
Speaker 1: didn't building for ourselves. We go to war and do

3790
03:43:59,560 --> 03:44:02,080
Speaker 1: all the oils of war to bring back home to

3791
03:44:02,160 --> 03:44:07,439
Speaker 1: our wisdom. Because knowledge and wisdom bores what understanding understanding

3792
03:44:08,400 --> 03:44:10,600
Speaker 1: That means you the knowledge, you're the foundation. But you

3793
03:44:10,720 --> 03:44:12,880
Speaker 1: got to put it through the wisdom. The wisdom is

3794
03:44:12,920 --> 03:44:17,520
Speaker 1: the woman symbolic to what the womb. If you put

3795
03:44:17,560 --> 03:44:19,680
Speaker 1: it through the womb, you'll get a light. You put

3796
03:44:19,720 --> 03:44:22,680
Speaker 1: it in your hand. All these kids don't got girls.

3797
03:44:23,360 --> 03:44:25,080
Speaker 1: You put it in your hand and nothing gonna happen.

3798
03:44:28,560 --> 03:44:31,840
Speaker 1: You need that wisdom to carry that seat of life.

3799
03:44:32,040 --> 03:44:35,680
Speaker 1: But that seat of life is not just physical. Sometimes

3800
03:44:35,680 --> 03:44:41,840
Speaker 1: it's mental. Spiritual, economical, soul, shoot, metaphysical. There we go.

3801
03:44:42,240 --> 03:44:44,400
Speaker 1: So I want to just add that to the conversation

3802
03:44:44,520 --> 03:44:49,640
Speaker 1: because we wife's head too, right there, bong that wife.

3803
03:44:49,920 --> 03:44:51,160
Speaker 3: So let's take a shot to the wives.

3804
03:44:51,400 --> 03:45:00,120
Speaker 12: Shot to the wives, ma'am, nor we know already, but

3805
03:45:00,800 --> 03:45:03,440
Speaker 12: you know, yeah, yeah he's married to.

3806
03:45:05,160 --> 03:45:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm actually yeah married laughing ship.

3807
03:45:09,200 --> 03:45:12,320
Speaker 4: It's like, ask you between these guys, You're like, what

3808
03:45:12,520 --> 03:45:13,119
Speaker 4: do you mean.

3809
03:45:14,959 --> 03:45:18,960
Speaker 1: Which way? Yeah, No, I'm married, I'm married. But you

3810
03:45:19,240 --> 03:45:22,000
Speaker 1: agree with us absolutely, Yeah. You guys told me a coach.

3811
03:45:22,080 --> 03:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Brothers no one guy, Yo, that's even yo. We still

3812
03:45:33,120 --> 03:45:38,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna get your brothers. You thought you so bunk

3813
03:45:38,959 --> 03:45:43,000
Speaker 1: bunk so not. It's important though, y'all because our culture, yeah,

3814
03:45:43,160 --> 03:45:47,240
Speaker 1: is because we called missogynistic. Yeah, and then our women

3815
03:45:47,280 --> 03:45:51,120
Speaker 1: are now rapping harder than us. Girl, she's like yeah,

3816
03:45:51,160 --> 03:45:57,480
Speaker 1: she's yeah, they rapping for the deck now. So it's

3817
03:45:57,520 --> 03:46:00,640
Speaker 1: getting crazy. But we need to know that as a position.

3818
03:46:00,760 --> 03:46:03,560
Speaker 1: That's why it says the sun and the moon having

3819
03:46:03,600 --> 03:46:06,760
Speaker 1: attracting power over our planet. When the lesson says that,

3820
03:46:06,840 --> 03:46:09,640
Speaker 1: they're saying that the planet is your life or your

3821
03:46:09,720 --> 03:46:13,040
Speaker 1: child's life. And the mother and the father both have

3822
03:46:13,640 --> 03:46:17,800
Speaker 1: attracting powers and influential powers over that planet. And if

3823
03:46:17,800 --> 03:46:20,520
Speaker 1: they grow that planet right, they grow health healthy. But

3824
03:46:20,640 --> 03:46:21,920
Speaker 1: if they they don't grow it right, it's going to

3825
03:46:22,000 --> 03:46:25,120
Speaker 1: go through rain health. Not on earthquakes, they said, they

3826
03:46:25,160 --> 03:46:28,160
Speaker 1: continue every day. The Earth travels at the speet of

3827
03:46:28,200 --> 03:46:30,280
Speaker 1: one thousand and thirty seven one thirty miles per hour

3828
03:46:30,640 --> 03:46:35,080
Speaker 1: as it's moving around the sun. Right, but yet the

3829
03:46:35,360 --> 03:46:38,800
Speaker 1: ideas is drawing up into the Earth's rotation, which is

3830
03:46:38,840 --> 03:46:42,120
Speaker 1: called gravitation. When you think about that, though the child

3831
03:46:42,520 --> 03:46:45,200
Speaker 1: ideas is took it in by the mother, what happens

3832
03:46:45,240 --> 03:46:49,360
Speaker 1: when the father's not there? It ruins the gravitational Pope,

3833
03:46:50,560 --> 03:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Now she got to try to explain the mathematics of

3834
03:46:55,000 --> 03:46:58,800
Speaker 1: the sun. The moon is there is what to reflect

3835
03:46:58,840 --> 03:47:01,000
Speaker 1: the light of the sun, not to be the light

3836
03:47:01,080 --> 03:47:04,039
Speaker 1: of the son. We grew a part of single parent

3837
03:47:04,160 --> 03:47:09,840
Speaker 1: where our mothers had to be the man and the woman.

3838
03:47:10,640 --> 03:47:12,080
Speaker 1: She had to be the knowledge and wisdom. And she

3839
03:47:12,160 --> 03:47:15,240
Speaker 1: can't do that like she did the best she can

3840
03:47:16,000 --> 03:47:18,360
Speaker 1: and thanks to us or thanks, I'll say thanks in

3841
03:47:18,440 --> 03:47:21,000
Speaker 1: my life we canna say thanks to the mathematics that

3842
03:47:21,160 --> 03:47:24,119
Speaker 1: the father. That's why we called the father the father.

3843
03:47:24,959 --> 03:47:28,840
Speaker 1: Because yeah, he became a father to brothers who didn't

3844
03:47:28,840 --> 03:47:32,240
Speaker 1: have a father. He gave him that knowledge. Because that's

3845
03:47:32,280 --> 03:47:35,520
Speaker 1: not to start calling on the father. I didn't know that. No,

3846
03:47:35,600 --> 03:47:37,320
Speaker 1: they called her the father because he was the father

3847
03:47:37,480 --> 03:47:40,680
Speaker 1: of that idea. Ok So the father of an idea,

3848
03:47:40,840 --> 03:47:44,879
Speaker 1: father means one who furthers or father. That's why I said,

3849
03:47:44,920 --> 03:47:48,080
Speaker 1: he took you father, he took you father. And also

3850
03:47:48,200 --> 03:47:52,960
Speaker 1: in the first the opening of the Quran, what's the

3851
03:47:53,000 --> 03:47:56,080
Speaker 1: first chapter of the Koran? Anybody the father to her

3852
03:47:57,080 --> 03:48:01,600
Speaker 1: the far the beginning of the father. Yeah, so that's

3853
03:48:01,600 --> 03:48:04,760
Speaker 1: where you get this father from. But still he furthered

3854
03:48:04,800 --> 03:48:07,560
Speaker 1: our education. So he became the father of us. But

3855
03:48:07,720 --> 03:48:10,960
Speaker 1: also even that's a spiritual but even the mental and

3856
03:48:11,000 --> 03:48:13,840
Speaker 1: the physical thing. He becomes your father because you don't

3857
03:48:13,840 --> 03:48:16,640
Speaker 1: got your father there. And tell you the basic science

3858
03:48:16,879 --> 03:48:22,480
Speaker 1: that knowledge means to know, to look, to listen, to observe,

3859
03:48:23,160 --> 03:48:26,480
Speaker 1: and to respect. Now you may know something but you

3860
03:48:26,520 --> 03:48:32,840
Speaker 1: ain't listen. Listening is not observing. Observing and seeing it's

3861
03:48:32,879 --> 03:48:34,760
Speaker 1: two different things. You could see it, but you didn't

3862
03:48:34,800 --> 03:48:38,680
Speaker 1: observe it. And you can do all those things and

3863
03:48:38,800 --> 03:48:43,960
Speaker 1: not respect it. And you're going to have a problem

3864
03:48:43,959 --> 03:48:48,160
Speaker 1: if you don't complete every action of knowledge, and then

3865
03:48:48,200 --> 03:48:49,960
Speaker 1: that leads to our wisdom. So these type of things,

3866
03:48:51,680 --> 03:48:53,600
Speaker 1: these type of things are important. We're going back to

3867
03:48:53,680 --> 03:48:57,760
Speaker 1: our wives. They're the wisdom. So that knowledge goes through

3868
03:48:57,800 --> 03:49:02,160
Speaker 1: the wisdom, the wisdom. It's not just a wise dome,

3869
03:49:02,879 --> 03:49:05,360
Speaker 1: because you have to have a wise dome. Dome means

3870
03:49:05,400 --> 03:49:10,320
Speaker 1: what domain. You got to have something wise and where

3871
03:49:10,360 --> 03:49:14,880
Speaker 1: you domain at. Your domain must have wise and wisdom

3872
03:49:14,920 --> 03:49:17,640
Speaker 1: in it or it ain't gone. But if you have

3873
03:49:17,800 --> 03:49:20,040
Speaker 1: that knowledge and you get to that wisdom, wisdom they

3874
03:49:20,040 --> 03:49:23,320
Speaker 1: say also the accumulation of experience, those experiences you put

3875
03:49:23,360 --> 03:49:26,520
Speaker 1: in your woman. Even when a man makes love to

3876
03:49:26,640 --> 03:49:33,000
Speaker 1: his woman, he's putting his accumulated experience into it. That

3877
03:49:33,120 --> 03:49:36,120
Speaker 1: spung cell that travels inside your woman before it made

3878
03:49:36,120 --> 03:49:40,760
Speaker 1: your child. You got children's, yeah, children, the spung cell.

3879
03:49:41,120 --> 03:49:42,880
Speaker 1: The scientists have already looked at it.

3880
03:49:46,360 --> 03:49:47,080
Speaker 4: It has.

3881
03:49:48,800 --> 03:49:57,000
Speaker 1: One molecule of air. So this molecule of air, now

3882
03:49:57,160 --> 03:50:02,000
Speaker 1: what is the soun surprised of hydrants in the head, right,

3883
03:50:02,720 --> 03:50:05,800
Speaker 1: So you have a molecule of air that comprises all

3884
03:50:05,880 --> 03:50:08,320
Speaker 1: these gases of air, and that air I said in

3885
03:50:08,400 --> 03:50:10,560
Speaker 1: one of my lyrics. But I'll just give you some

3886
03:50:10,720 --> 03:50:15,560
Speaker 1: of them. Hydrogen and helium, xenon, freeon are gone. You

3887
03:50:15,600 --> 03:50:19,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, carbon, you know what I mean, oxygen.

3888
03:50:19,680 --> 03:50:22,720
Speaker 1: These are all it's mainly eight main gases. I put

3889
03:50:22,720 --> 03:50:24,680
Speaker 1: it in the lyrics so so brothers could study that.

3890
03:50:25,040 --> 03:50:26,600
Speaker 1: They don't listen to me, they won't hit my beats.

3891
03:50:29,080 --> 03:50:30,320
Speaker 1: But I put it in there so we can know

3892
03:50:30,600 --> 03:50:33,800
Speaker 1: that now, this, this, this, this organic life is carrying

3893
03:50:33,880 --> 03:50:37,720
Speaker 1: a molecule of that to a cloud of blood that

3894
03:50:37,880 --> 03:50:41,640
Speaker 1: your woman has thirty days of her life eating, smoking,

3895
03:50:41,760 --> 03:50:44,280
Speaker 1: drinking or better not eat smoking, whatever she's doing her

3896
03:50:44,360 --> 03:50:46,960
Speaker 1: thirty days of her life, she's accumulating all that energy

3897
03:50:47,400 --> 03:50:51,680
Speaker 1: and it went down to this egg waiting in the

3898
03:50:51,720 --> 03:50:55,200
Speaker 1: cloud of blood. And then you, when you're having sex

3899
03:50:55,280 --> 03:50:59,720
Speaker 1: with your woman, you take that sexual energy all that

3900
03:51:00,120 --> 03:51:02,240
Speaker 1: is coming in when you feel that first that that's

3901
03:51:02,280 --> 03:51:04,120
Speaker 1: what I'm not making this up. When you come, when

3902
03:51:04,160 --> 03:51:08,960
Speaker 1: you feel that firstphor you you feel it here first, bro,

3903
03:51:09,280 --> 03:51:11,800
Speaker 1: when you when you come came, we agree. Man. When

3904
03:51:11,840 --> 03:51:13,720
Speaker 1: you have an orgasm, when you feel it that first

3905
03:51:14,400 --> 03:51:19,640
Speaker 1: here before it goes here, it triggers in your mind first,

3906
03:51:20,400 --> 03:51:26,080
Speaker 1: It's like, damn, that's euphoria. Okay, euphoria Okay, I respect

3907
03:51:26,080 --> 03:51:30,320
Speaker 1: that I was saying. So now it went from a

3908
03:51:30,440 --> 03:51:39,600
Speaker 1: gas to a liquid, and the travels is a liquid.

3909
03:51:41,400 --> 03:51:46,720
Speaker 1: Now the spum cell knows where it goes. M it's

3910
03:51:46,800 --> 03:51:48,200
Speaker 1: not like where the going.

3911
03:51:50,480 --> 03:51:52,280
Speaker 3: He's headed to a direct.

3912
03:51:52,000 --> 03:52:01,720
Speaker 1: Destination upstream like a salmon. Don't want the barby said salmon.

3913
03:52:02,240 --> 03:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Saying salmon like a salmon, I said, right, I did

3914
03:52:07,160 --> 03:52:20,280
Speaker 1: a stea. It travels, It travels upstream knowing where it's

3915
03:52:20,320 --> 03:52:23,600
Speaker 1: going bro to reach the egg. And when it gets there,

3916
03:52:23,680 --> 03:52:25,760
Speaker 1: you notice not to get too deep on it, but

3917
03:52:25,840 --> 03:52:27,240
Speaker 1: you can cut it out. You want to cut it

3918
03:52:27,640 --> 03:52:30,520
Speaker 1: when it gets to anything. Whatever you do to do,

3919
03:52:31,080 --> 03:52:32,880
Speaker 1: whether you do that something to you when it gets

3920
03:52:32,920 --> 03:52:36,440
Speaker 1: to the egg. Right, only when the first get there

3921
03:52:37,280 --> 03:52:38,760
Speaker 1: about nice for themselves?

3922
03:52:38,840 --> 03:52:39,120
Speaker 4: Make it.

3923
03:52:40,440 --> 03:52:43,720
Speaker 1: One guy's leading though, he's like, I can do it.

3924
03:52:44,760 --> 03:52:47,720
Speaker 1: He gets there right? Who say boat? Yeah? Who save boat?

3925
03:52:48,280 --> 03:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Hit the boat of lighting in there? When he goes in?

3926
03:52:50,760 --> 03:52:53,160
Speaker 1: What do the other a sponge shells do? They give up?

3927
03:52:53,360 --> 03:52:57,240
Speaker 1: Non cipher, They surround the informal corona help him out.

3928
03:52:57,360 --> 03:53:00,640
Speaker 1: They formed the eight points of the sun brother, and

3929
03:53:00,720 --> 03:53:03,120
Speaker 1: they stop anything else from entering he's in there, ball,

3930
03:53:03,160 --> 03:53:05,720
Speaker 1: he's in a He's like, yo, you always that getting

3931
03:53:05,760 --> 03:53:13,280
Speaker 1: busy kids. So so say that. So the sperm cell

3932
03:53:13,360 --> 03:53:17,480
Speaker 1: nose where to go. But even more deeper that we

3933
03:53:17,520 --> 03:53:19,760
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the ex cell knows where to wait.

3934
03:53:21,160 --> 03:53:23,600
Speaker 1: It's not like it's waiting over here, nigga. It's like

3935
03:53:23,880 --> 03:53:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you right here, this strong motherfucker that

3936
03:53:27,600 --> 03:53:30,800
Speaker 1: could bring me those chromosomes. I'm waiting for it. Right

3937
03:53:30,880 --> 03:53:33,000
Speaker 1: behind your head. Right now, I see two X chromosomes.

3938
03:53:33,240 --> 03:53:43,280
Speaker 1: Look at that. No, no, right right behind, right behind

3939
03:53:43,320 --> 03:53:46,960
Speaker 1: you know it X so so so in the in

3940
03:53:47,040 --> 03:53:50,600
Speaker 1: the body, the female body, there's this two X chromosomes.

3941
03:53:51,280 --> 03:53:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of the major way, not going through all

3942
03:53:53,280 --> 03:53:56,160
Speaker 1: the different twenty but majorly it's two xs and and

3943
03:53:56,280 --> 03:53:57,840
Speaker 1: the man though he has an X and a Y.

3944
03:54:00,240 --> 03:54:02,880
Speaker 1: The X in mathematics is the twenty fourth letter, and

3945
03:54:02,920 --> 03:54:05,320
Speaker 1: it's known. It's the symbol for what is unknown. This

3946
03:54:05,440 --> 03:54:07,400
Speaker 1: is why we have to use X as a multiplication.

3947
03:54:07,960 --> 03:54:10,880
Speaker 1: So when this spun is going Muslims, they would say,

3948
03:54:11,320 --> 03:54:14,440
Speaker 1: Malcolm X is because he didn't know his last name.

3949
03:54:14,560 --> 03:54:16,840
Speaker 1: His last name was the slave man. Right, Okay, you

3950
03:54:16,840 --> 03:54:19,160
Speaker 1: get this point Okay, so you get that x though,

3951
03:54:19,280 --> 03:54:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's also a multiplication, So when that spum hits

3952
03:54:22,080 --> 03:54:25,240
Speaker 1: that egg, it's gonna be a multiplication. The chances of

3953
03:54:25,320 --> 03:54:28,560
Speaker 1: it being a man is three to one because you

3954
03:54:28,680 --> 03:54:29,760
Speaker 1: have her have two x.

3955
03:54:30,000 --> 03:54:30,600
Speaker 3: Three to one.

3956
03:54:30,720 --> 03:54:35,760
Speaker 1: So that's why people are celebrating a man. Yeah, chances likely, No,

3957
03:54:35,840 --> 03:54:37,560
Speaker 1: it's not likely. It's three the one chance you're gonna

3958
03:54:37,560 --> 03:54:40,360
Speaker 1: get a man. Wow, I didn't know. One chance you

3959
03:54:40,400 --> 03:54:45,200
Speaker 1: can get a woman. Nos. Three chances for one for

3960
03:54:45,240 --> 03:54:48,400
Speaker 1: a woman, one chance for a man, which is natural

3961
03:54:48,520 --> 03:54:51,680
Speaker 1: because you need in order for population to multiply, you

3962
03:54:51,800 --> 03:54:54,640
Speaker 1: need women. If you get a guy, you get a

3963
03:54:54,680 --> 03:55:00,560
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Stop playing, Stop playing, bast let's not

3964
03:55:00,720 --> 03:55:01,560
Speaker 1: playing basketball.

3965
03:55:02,720 --> 03:55:04,560
Speaker 4: In a lot of and a lot of people, like

3966
03:55:04,640 --> 03:55:07,880
Speaker 4: a lot of different cultures, they celebrate the man because

3967
03:55:07,920 --> 03:55:09,880
Speaker 4: obviously that's not the norm.

3968
03:55:09,720 --> 03:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Right because the man is what we call the life giver, right,

3969
03:55:14,080 --> 03:55:19,200
Speaker 1: But the woman is the life receiver. She receives that life,

3970
03:55:19,240 --> 03:55:22,680
Speaker 1: She receives all your bullshit bro good and bad, and

3971
03:55:22,800 --> 03:55:25,320
Speaker 1: she takes that to that spun And when that spungsor

3972
03:55:25,400 --> 03:55:29,200
Speaker 1: hits that excel, it delivers all your data and information

3973
03:55:29,280 --> 03:55:32,400
Speaker 1: of you. It also delivers what you was thinking. But

3974
03:55:32,600 --> 03:55:34,000
Speaker 1: within it, like I was trying to say, there's a

3975
03:55:34,040 --> 03:55:38,120
Speaker 1: molecule of air and that's the one spark of energy.

3976
03:55:38,280 --> 03:55:41,200
Speaker 1: That spark of energy is gonna now of course everything

3977
03:55:41,240 --> 03:55:45,680
Speaker 1: because it's organic and and organic is happening. And when

3978
03:55:45,720 --> 03:55:48,440
Speaker 1: its as a bomb, it's like a bomb. It's the

3979
03:55:48,480 --> 03:55:52,840
Speaker 1: big bang. Uh. Scientists called it the Big Bang theory.

3980
03:55:52,880 --> 03:55:56,000
Speaker 1: But in this form it is the same. No, I

3981
03:55:56,080 --> 03:55:58,640
Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah, the Big Bank theory happens there because

3982
03:55:58,640 --> 03:56:02,640
Speaker 1: once that sponsor hits that and it starts multiplying how

3983
03:56:02,720 --> 03:56:06,840
Speaker 1: many cells does a human body? Starts producing trillions? How

3984
03:56:06,920 --> 03:56:11,520
Speaker 1: many stars we have? Exactly? So a law is the greatest.

3985
03:56:12,160 --> 03:56:15,760
Speaker 1: A law started with the thought of it. Put that thought,

3986
03:56:16,000 --> 03:56:21,040
Speaker 1: that energy and that organic atom and inorganic matter sent

3987
03:56:21,160 --> 03:56:25,800
Speaker 1: that through and bring forth this new life. Now we

3988
03:56:25,920 --> 03:56:29,680
Speaker 1: started this by saying the woman and being the queen,

3989
03:56:29,720 --> 03:56:32,560
Speaker 1: and why we build our castles is because yo, gee,

3990
03:56:33,920 --> 03:56:39,080
Speaker 1: that's the That's why the brothers call it the Earth right,

3991
03:56:39,880 --> 03:56:42,680
Speaker 1: and the lessons say the planet Earth is the home

3992
03:56:42,760 --> 03:56:46,240
Speaker 1: of Islam. Says take that for a second, or you've

3993
03:56:46,280 --> 03:56:48,880
Speaker 1: met that lesson before. Brothers okay said, the planet Earth

3994
03:56:49,000 --> 03:56:51,920
Speaker 1: is the home of Islam. Islam is the avag word

3995
03:56:52,000 --> 03:56:57,640
Speaker 1: that means what anybody but the Islam peace exactly. The

3996
03:56:57,760 --> 03:57:00,680
Speaker 1: earth is the home of peace. Were not in peace

3997
03:57:00,720 --> 03:57:03,560
Speaker 1: on Earth because all the other planets are not the

3998
03:57:03,720 --> 03:57:07,800
Speaker 1: home of peace the other planets. You gotta send a

3999
03:57:07,880 --> 03:57:11,560
Speaker 1: spaceship to Mars to get a sample of dirt, the

4000
03:57:11,800 --> 03:57:16,200
Speaker 1: hope you find an organic life. You might find a

4001
03:57:16,240 --> 03:57:20,480
Speaker 1: little molecule or some shit like bang bung here a nigga,

4002
03:57:20,480 --> 03:57:22,200
Speaker 1: I could call on a piece of bread, throw it

4003
03:57:22,280 --> 03:57:24,640
Speaker 1: in the closet and the whole tree ll grow out

4004
03:57:24,680 --> 03:57:29,760
Speaker 1: of it. Nigga, this is the home of Islam. Okay,

4005
03:57:30,520 --> 03:57:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go too deep on that. But anyway, but

4006
03:57:33,040 --> 03:57:38,840
Speaker 1: your woman is considered your earth because through her all

4007
03:57:39,040 --> 03:57:43,560
Speaker 1: possibilities are there. So we don't fight war or work

4008
03:57:43,640 --> 03:57:46,600
Speaker 1: every day or do everything for our own We do

4009
03:57:46,760 --> 03:57:51,400
Speaker 1: it as a king to build a castle for our queen,

4010
03:57:51,800 --> 03:57:55,600
Speaker 1: so we could give birth to a prince. I call

4011
03:57:55,680 --> 03:57:58,920
Speaker 1: all my sons and my nephews, my nephews over there

4012
03:57:58,960 --> 03:58:01,600
Speaker 1: right now listening if if if he answered the phone

4013
03:58:01,680 --> 03:58:04,920
Speaker 1: right now, Young divine you over there, can you year

4014
03:58:05,000 --> 03:58:08,080
Speaker 1: me if I call you on the phone, what do

4015
03:58:08,160 --> 03:58:12,960
Speaker 1: I say to you first, what I call you peace, prince.

4016
03:58:14,600 --> 03:58:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know he's a prince, yo, his father is

4017
03:58:16,920 --> 03:58:19,800
Speaker 1: a king. I'll do the same to my sons, and

4018
03:58:19,880 --> 03:58:23,000
Speaker 1: I'll do the same to your sons, because this journey

4019
03:58:23,400 --> 03:58:26,040
Speaker 1: is only made of kings and queens. Took a shots

4020
03:58:26,040 --> 03:58:28,960
Speaker 1: the kings and queens to the kings and queens, bomb

4021
03:58:29,040 --> 03:58:35,400
Speaker 1: bomb to the kings, all right, talking about loyalty or respect,

4022
03:58:35,400 --> 03:58:36,720
Speaker 1: and then we want to get into your movies and

4023
03:58:37,120 --> 03:58:40,520
Speaker 1: loyalty of respect, loyalty, loyalty, No, sorry about that.

4024
03:58:41,600 --> 03:58:47,880
Speaker 3: We cut that edit that pull the liquor, yea, lordy

4025
03:58:47,960 --> 03:58:55,240
Speaker 3: of respect both. We're going back down it. Then we're

4026
03:58:55,240 --> 03:58:56,280
Speaker 3: gonna bro.

4027
03:58:57,520 --> 03:59:04,200
Speaker 1: This is an this one is uh yeah, we're going down.

4028
03:59:04,240 --> 03:59:07,120
Speaker 1: We need to go down. We're gonna la.

4029
03:59:07,680 --> 03:59:10,440
Speaker 3: That's a ramic ship. Ain't say nothing, but that ship

4030
03:59:10,560 --> 03:59:11,520
Speaker 3: is mad strong.

4031
03:59:11,600 --> 03:59:14,880
Speaker 4: I think I'm a little envious.

4032
03:59:14,920 --> 03:59:15,400
Speaker 1: So we went.

4033
03:59:15,560 --> 03:59:17,760
Speaker 3: We went and bought some though, right we feel like

4034
03:59:17,880 --> 03:59:19,360
Speaker 3: I feel like they had three shots.

4035
03:59:19,200 --> 03:59:21,600
Speaker 1: That I should have had six. Yeah, we bought, we

4036
03:59:21,680 --> 03:59:26,320
Speaker 1: bought more. I need something to sir. We're going to

4037
03:59:26,400 --> 03:59:29,160
Speaker 1: the beach for that you're doing. They call me child, Well,

4038
03:59:31,680 --> 03:59:40,240
Speaker 1: I like that why I picked lordy and respect because

4039
03:59:40,320 --> 03:59:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, if you got lord he

4040
03:59:42,560 --> 03:59:44,440
Speaker 1: and no respect, where the fuck you at you? Like

4041
03:59:44,520 --> 03:59:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm down with you some but I don't like you.

4042
03:59:46,880 --> 03:59:49,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm fucking with you, my nigga, but I can't

4043
03:59:49,200 --> 03:59:51,760
Speaker 1: wait to fucking step over you. Lord.

4044
03:59:51,960 --> 03:59:53,880
Speaker 3: Respect is a nigga that loyal to you but can't

4045
03:59:53,880 --> 03:59:54,160
Speaker 3: wait to.

4046
03:59:54,160 --> 03:59:58,040
Speaker 1: Take your position. Lord, have respectus. He's loyal and he

4047
03:59:58,120 --> 04:00:00,920
Speaker 1: respect your position. But expect what I lost you. I

4048
04:00:01,040 --> 04:00:02,760
Speaker 1: respect you. I respect you by a nigga. I can't wait.

4049
04:00:03,680 --> 04:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Let these niggas kill you. This is the best is

4050
04:00:05,680 --> 04:00:11,080
Speaker 1: the best answer. Let's be real, though, Let's be real.

4051
04:00:11,200 --> 04:00:13,120
Speaker 1: You need both of those. We need both. We need

4052
04:00:13,200 --> 04:00:13,680
Speaker 1: both of those.

4053
04:00:13,840 --> 04:00:15,480
Speaker 3: So so now let's let's let's talk about this.

4054
04:00:15,720 --> 04:00:16,160
Speaker 1: This movie.

4055
04:00:16,640 --> 04:00:18,720
Speaker 4: I want to get before the movies here because this

4056
04:00:18,840 --> 04:00:23,000
Speaker 4: we're gonna I know, I want to rap. I can't

4057
04:00:23,040 --> 04:00:24,720
Speaker 4: hear with something, bro, let me tell you something.

4058
04:00:25,680 --> 04:00:28,160
Speaker 3: Listen to this. I know I already said this is you.

4059
04:00:28,440 --> 04:00:31,440
Speaker 3: This is the first Wu Tang show in Miami.

4060
04:00:31,720 --> 04:00:35,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's the flyer. Take a look at that

4061
04:00:35,120 --> 04:00:37,760
Speaker 1: show that that was like twitter back then. He passed

4062
04:00:37,760 --> 04:00:42,080
Speaker 1: it to me. This is the ancient Twitter. Look at this.

4063
04:00:42,200 --> 04:00:45,560
Speaker 1: Listen to me, agent Twitter, it is it is. It

4064
04:00:45,760 --> 04:00:49,280
Speaker 1: is ancient, ancient, ancient.

4065
04:00:49,640 --> 04:00:54,400
Speaker 3: To me personally, as ap Pad, this is full circle

4066
04:00:54,520 --> 04:00:54,760
Speaker 3: for me.

4067
04:00:55,120 --> 04:00:57,960
Speaker 1: That's a blessing to be a fan. You were there.

4068
04:00:58,160 --> 04:01:02,160
Speaker 1: I was absolutely asking. Yeah, I wanted to have a fly.

4069
04:01:02,440 --> 04:01:05,400
Speaker 1: I was in there, bro, But look at look at

4070
04:01:05,440 --> 04:01:10,680
Speaker 1: the list. Okay, it's Wu Tang Clan right. Exclusive performance.

4071
04:01:11,160 --> 04:01:17,000
Speaker 1: It says Miami Hip Hop ninety four. Right, Mother Superior, Yep.

4072
04:01:17,600 --> 04:01:19,160
Speaker 1: I see that. I get the Mother Superior. What's that

4073
04:01:19,200 --> 04:01:22,240
Speaker 1: that's above her? Below? Now she's there somewhere, Mother Superior

4074
04:01:22,400 --> 04:01:25,080
Speaker 1: very well. Anyway, it says in association with all right.

4075
04:01:25,120 --> 04:01:27,640
Speaker 1: It starts off with I ain't gonna be the whole ship,

4076
04:01:27,800 --> 04:01:30,840
Speaker 1: all right, but anyway, Miami Hip Hop nineteen ninety four

4077
04:01:30,920 --> 04:01:34,840
Speaker 1: Part one, Exclusive performance of Wu Tank, Exclusive performance of

4078
04:01:34,880 --> 04:01:41,440
Speaker 1: Wu Tang Clan, also performing live Dimmy D. You know

4079
04:01:41,560 --> 04:01:44,440
Speaker 1: Dimmi D. He knows and you don't know, no kid,

4080
04:01:45,560 --> 04:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Fucky Black snows Yep in the Nation in the hoods.

4081
04:01:49,720 --> 04:01:55,920
Speaker 1: That's Dope, Mother Superior Superior x x x E S

4082
04:01:56,360 --> 04:01:59,120
Speaker 1: Wait wait the first x.

4083
04:02:02,880 --> 04:02:08,600
Speaker 3: Yes, solid waste, Solid waste, that's Paul right.

4084
04:02:11,680 --> 04:02:12,720
Speaker 1: And more.

4085
04:02:12,840 --> 04:02:17,480
Speaker 4: Remember and read the venue the venue fat by DJ

4086
04:02:17,720 --> 04:02:20,840
Speaker 4: Chris shout out, that's DJ Classic now.

4087
04:02:20,920 --> 04:02:25,800
Speaker 1: Misspect Wednesday, February ninth, nineteen ninety four at the spaces

4088
04:02:26,200 --> 04:02:31,000
Speaker 1: Maha templelf A Mahi Temple or the twelve year that's crazy,

4089
04:02:31,320 --> 04:02:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, so beautiful? Though? Is that?

4090
04:02:34,160 --> 04:02:36,120
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that at all? Do you remember that?

4091
04:02:36,240 --> 04:02:39,520
Speaker 1: All? I remember coming up? Damn, I'm drying, hey, but

4092
04:02:39,600 --> 04:02:46,160
Speaker 1: I started making that. Yeah, certain syllables. Just leave your

4093
04:02:46,240 --> 04:02:49,640
Speaker 1: mouth for your drinking. The awe and the W are

4094
04:02:49,760 --> 04:02:50,480
Speaker 1: very challenging.

4095
04:02:51,600 --> 04:02:57,280
Speaker 3: But I remember comeing to Miami. But don't ruin my

4096
04:02:57,360 --> 04:02:58,480
Speaker 3: flyer please, I'm sorry, guys.

4097
04:03:00,240 --> 04:03:04,280
Speaker 1: Just a gift, No, not at all. Okay, this is

4098
04:03:06,840 --> 04:03:08,080
Speaker 1: what you got? What else you got it?

4099
04:03:08,600 --> 04:03:11,000
Speaker 4: I gotta'll give me one more, one more. I bought

4100
04:03:11,040 --> 04:03:14,240
Speaker 4: this tape. That's the first WHU Tank record I bought.

4101
04:03:14,720 --> 04:03:17,480
Speaker 4: And then I and then my brother Paul Dreams Tan Sports.

4102
04:03:17,680 --> 04:03:19,080
Speaker 1: I said, now that's new, kid.

4103
04:03:19,000 --> 04:03:22,000
Speaker 3: Now that's new. He gave me this as a gift recently, man,

4104
04:03:22,120 --> 04:03:25,520
Speaker 3: thank you, brother and grave. I bought that myself as well.

4105
04:03:25,600 --> 04:03:28,680
Speaker 3: And this this is the time that older the bastard

4106
04:03:28,840 --> 04:03:29,360
Speaker 3: turned over.

4107
04:03:29,800 --> 04:03:32,560
Speaker 1: You was here. Of course I was there. You know

4108
04:03:32,680 --> 04:03:35,960
Speaker 1: the story, what I know the story? They called me,

4109
04:03:36,080 --> 04:03:40,680
Speaker 1: they called me after listen, wait what look at this? Okay,

4110
04:03:41,440 --> 04:03:43,960
Speaker 1: you want that story, get this, tell us the story.

4111
04:03:44,000 --> 04:03:45,640
Speaker 1: But how are you gonna call me fen the whole time? That?

4112
04:03:48,320 --> 04:03:48,640
Speaker 1: Hold on?

4113
04:03:49,840 --> 04:03:50,080
Speaker 4: Hold on?

4114
04:03:50,200 --> 04:03:53,840
Speaker 1: So now, black black dudes always short.

4115
04:03:54,480 --> 04:03:57,640
Speaker 3: Anybody do you know that once the black guy.

4116
04:03:57,600 --> 04:04:07,080
Speaker 1: Get to know you short after four hours, I'm like, yeah,

4117
04:04:10,640 --> 04:04:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, now it tells us. I don't

4118
04:04:14,800 --> 04:04:15,600
Speaker 1: know what you talking about.

4119
04:04:15,720 --> 04:04:18,120
Speaker 3: This was an incredible What is this?

4120
04:04:18,760 --> 04:04:19,640
Speaker 1: If it.

4121
04:04:21,280 --> 04:04:26,840
Speaker 4: Was this that, it's not really it's actually not really

4122
04:04:27,000 --> 04:04:30,680
Speaker 4: on the fly, Yeah, Kelly was there, if I remember right,

4123
04:04:30,840 --> 04:04:34,160
Speaker 4: this is the woman are bastard turned the speakers.

4124
04:04:33,920 --> 04:04:41,160
Speaker 1: Into the table. Yeah yeah, he threw them over. Yeah okay, okay, look.

4125
04:04:41,040 --> 04:04:43,440
Speaker 4: Look even if it's not this this story, I was

4126
04:04:43,480 --> 04:04:45,640
Speaker 4: there for that one as well. Even if it's not

4127
04:04:45,760 --> 04:04:46,560
Speaker 4: this flyer.

4128
04:04:46,440 --> 04:04:55,440
Speaker 1: He the story, okay, e f N, I would because

4129
04:04:55,440 --> 04:05:03,320
Speaker 1: I was like, it was flowing. Let me let me

4130
04:05:03,360 --> 04:05:05,320
Speaker 1: take him moment, let me take this, Let me take

4131
04:05:05,320 --> 04:05:11,520
Speaker 1: you saying I'm good. Take them on, Broy, Listen, I

4132
04:05:11,640 --> 04:05:13,360
Speaker 1: love watching you. Let me just give you some shot.

4133
04:05:13,520 --> 04:05:16,160
Speaker 1: We've been giving the guards so shot hit the Michael,

4134
04:05:16,200 --> 04:05:20,800
Speaker 1: but it put the put the light on him. I

4135
04:05:20,840 --> 04:05:25,520
Speaker 1: really appreciate you, yo, your your poise, your reaction, your knowledge,

4136
04:05:25,960 --> 04:05:28,800
Speaker 1: your experience with hip hop culture and everybody that every

4137
04:05:28,880 --> 04:05:31,840
Speaker 1: guest that you make them feel like like you're like

4138
04:05:32,000 --> 04:05:35,000
Speaker 1: like it's almost like your your timing and your punchlines.

4139
04:05:35,800 --> 04:05:39,920
Speaker 1: Whether it's editing or not, we don't edit. Really, it's good, bro,

4140
04:05:40,280 --> 04:05:45,720
Speaker 1: And I know you know argument. I had to look

4141
04:05:45,760 --> 04:05:48,200
Speaker 1: at my eyes. You see him and I saw that.

4142
04:05:48,640 --> 04:05:52,520
Speaker 1: But but you know what, I love it. We punt that,

4143
04:05:52,680 --> 04:05:54,360
Speaker 1: we punt that. I won't comment on that.

4144
04:05:54,480 --> 04:05:57,640
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm right with that.

4145
04:05:58,160 --> 04:06:00,400
Speaker 1: That's one of the movies. Now. Yeah know, let me

4146
04:06:00,480 --> 04:06:02,200
Speaker 1: let me, let me let me go to the story

4147
04:06:02,320 --> 04:06:04,600
Speaker 1: and talk about the o dB story. You can talk

4148
04:06:04,600 --> 04:06:06,080
Speaker 1: about it. No, I was there. I was there. I

4149
04:06:06,160 --> 04:06:08,240
Speaker 1: know that I wanted. I was want to say on

4150
04:06:08,240 --> 04:06:09,920
Speaker 1: the microphone so people see me and my wife is

4151
04:06:09,960 --> 04:06:14,520
Speaker 1: like nigga flag. But I appreciate you, bro, thank you.

4152
04:06:15,080 --> 04:06:18,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate you extremely for what you started in when you

4153
04:06:18,160 --> 04:06:20,760
Speaker 1: started in the culture and be both TV don't exist

4154
04:06:20,840 --> 04:06:26,200
Speaker 1: no more without you, yes us yeah, yeah, but listen

4155
04:06:26,200 --> 04:06:29,280
Speaker 1: to ob sty your chamber adds a lot to this

4156
04:06:29,360 --> 04:06:32,720
Speaker 1: bo let me know that. Okay, okay, and I might

4157
04:06:33,760 --> 04:06:40,840
Speaker 1: five and I might no, no, brand, it's going fast

4158
04:06:40,880 --> 04:06:56,840
Speaker 1: forward time, he said, you wind got fast forward? Hold on,

4159
04:06:57,240 --> 04:07:02,040
Speaker 1: who's this guy? Who's that right there? Look at you?

4160
04:07:02,240 --> 04:07:04,600
Speaker 1: I know that guy. That's what that's my man right there,

4161
04:07:05,200 --> 04:07:10,600
Speaker 1: that's you might get to know he's the boy. That's

4162
04:07:10,760 --> 04:07:13,240
Speaker 1: that's the rock. Now he's want to see why you

4163
04:07:13,280 --> 04:07:16,960
Speaker 1: want to even you're still living on? Yeah, I like it.

4164
04:07:18,080 --> 04:07:23,640
Speaker 1: That's when I was bleaching, you know what, don't lead?

4165
04:07:24,480 --> 04:07:24,920
Speaker 1: Why I go?

4166
04:07:25,080 --> 04:07:25,480
Speaker 4: Why I go?

4167
04:07:26,040 --> 04:07:28,280
Speaker 3: Let's take a shower. Want to ask questions? Why is

4168
04:07:28,320 --> 04:07:29,160
Speaker 3: it green and black?

4169
04:07:29,280 --> 04:07:33,680
Speaker 1: Like the monster? This this version of the rough draft.

4170
04:07:33,920 --> 04:07:38,120
Speaker 1: These are the real let's get one together. It has

4171
04:07:38,200 --> 04:07:42,440
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the monster, but everything watch the

4172
04:07:42,480 --> 04:07:46,480
Speaker 1: green and black both Wait what what everything is? Nigga?

4173
04:07:47,040 --> 04:07:49,760
Speaker 1: The niggas took shipping the can. Look at the cat

4174
04:07:50,760 --> 04:07:55,040
Speaker 1: this monster that is not I know, shot my niggaho.

4175
04:07:57,240 --> 04:07:59,680
Speaker 3: We're praying which folks, Who's who had the first promotion?

4176
04:08:00,400 --> 04:08:08,200
Speaker 1: Monster? Yeah? Together, I was like, no, we got a

4177
04:08:08,240 --> 04:08:09,320
Speaker 1: great idea for your brother.

4178
04:08:09,720 --> 04:08:12,080
Speaker 3: I got a great idea. What we're gonna do is

4179
04:08:12,120 --> 04:08:18,000
Speaker 3: green and no hold on, no disrespect for my brother.

4180
04:08:18,840 --> 04:08:21,320
Speaker 1: Know who He's gonna get mad at me, and I

4181
04:08:21,360 --> 04:08:23,680
Speaker 1: gotta left my waist and get my strength up. I've

4182
04:08:23,720 --> 04:08:25,720
Speaker 1: been drinking, so I might have to face this. When

4183
04:08:25,720 --> 04:08:29,440
Speaker 1: I face it, I'm gonna say it it. I'm going

4184
04:08:29,480 --> 04:08:31,560
Speaker 1: you ready, Yeah, I would love to see ghost face

4185
04:08:31,640 --> 04:08:35,640
Speaker 1: on that box. Those faces, those faces are we want yo,

4186
04:08:35,760 --> 04:08:39,960
Speaker 1: Let's get ghodst face on the box. Yeah. Respect, yeah, no,

4187
04:08:40,120 --> 04:08:42,720
Speaker 1: big back, Tony Be. I don't know my kung food

4188
04:08:42,800 --> 04:08:46,440
Speaker 1: so you know that, but I can see your face

4189
04:08:46,480 --> 04:08:50,560
Speaker 1: on the box and it's a great person, a great partner.

4190
04:08:51,080 --> 04:08:53,360
Speaker 3: I've seen ray Quan the other day. His ship like

4191
04:08:53,480 --> 04:08:55,280
Speaker 3: he had the se girl is big?

4192
04:08:55,760 --> 04:09:07,040
Speaker 1: Did we wind? No? What's the plan is that? Brother?

4193
04:09:07,280 --> 04:09:09,840
Speaker 1: And I was so you think Rake Walker give you

4194
04:09:09,960 --> 04:09:12,680
Speaker 1: his face? I think I think way you go? So Ray,

4195
04:09:12,840 --> 04:09:14,600
Speaker 1: I bet you on the spot, go so ray for me?

4196
04:09:14,800 --> 04:09:20,960
Speaker 3: You say we want if you say, goes Ray Kwan

4197
04:09:21,320 --> 04:09:22,440
Speaker 3: for the be wine box.

4198
04:09:32,280 --> 04:09:32,680
Speaker 4: M hmm.

4199
04:09:34,240 --> 04:09:37,000
Speaker 1: Makes one more time and that's it. We never did

4200
04:09:37,080 --> 04:09:38,400
Speaker 1: we talk about no no, so about the movie. You

4201
04:09:38,480 --> 04:09:40,920
Speaker 1: don't take the picture an yea. The story of the story.

4202
04:09:41,080 --> 04:09:43,360
Speaker 1: Look now you're good. Now you're doing the story with

4203
04:09:43,480 --> 04:09:46,000
Speaker 1: the story was O d B. No, we did the story.

4204
04:09:46,120 --> 04:09:46,560
Speaker 1: I didn't say it.

4205
04:09:46,600 --> 04:09:49,440
Speaker 3: No you'll need it, don't need it. We need all

4206
04:09:49,520 --> 04:09:49,920
Speaker 3: the story.

4207
04:09:50,200 --> 04:09:52,480
Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, you didn't say sorry, so we need that story.

4208
04:09:52,520 --> 04:09:56,040
Speaker 13: That's anyway. So so so method Man and Red Man's performing.

4209
04:09:56,120 --> 04:10:00,720
Speaker 13: It's in Miami, so we and my man. No, that's

4210
04:10:00,800 --> 04:10:05,600
Speaker 13: Princess Club. You did all Yeah. Now, who's controlling the

4211
04:10:05,680 --> 04:10:06,600
Speaker 13: whole party that night?

4212
04:10:07,400 --> 04:10:07,840
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.

4213
04:10:08,400 --> 04:10:10,840
Speaker 3: I'm a fan Death Jam is controlling the whole party.

4214
04:10:11,080 --> 04:10:13,960
Speaker 1: But is it this one? I don't know Jam talking

4215
04:10:14,000 --> 04:10:18,520
Speaker 1: about its Depth Jam's party. Okay, yeah, okay, all right,

4216
04:10:19,200 --> 04:10:25,160
Speaker 1: so method Man Red Man is signed to Depth Jam Campleton,

4217
04:10:25,960 --> 04:10:29,400
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that, like its signed the Depth Jam.

4218
04:10:29,680 --> 04:10:33,320
Speaker 3: I remember that came to the film disrespected.

4219
04:10:34,680 --> 04:10:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy came with okay, but old b is not

4220
04:10:38,160 --> 04:10:44,960
Speaker 1: Yo came death Cham. Okay, So now, because because you're

4221
04:10:45,080 --> 04:10:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna make you all enough was mad? Meth don't get

4222
04:10:49,080 --> 04:10:51,160
Speaker 1: mad a lot by what we do, but he was

4223
04:10:51,160 --> 04:10:53,440
Speaker 1: a little mad about this because he really felt like

4224
04:10:53,600 --> 04:10:57,840
Speaker 1: it was a little bit, a little bit beyond the boundaries.

4225
04:10:58,080 --> 04:10:59,680
Speaker 3: What was beyond the boundaries?

4226
04:11:00,320 --> 04:11:04,440
Speaker 1: Okay? If listen, Odie B. Is known for destroying your show.

4227
04:11:05,280 --> 04:11:07,160
Speaker 1: If you if you talked the Quest Love and them

4228
04:11:07,240 --> 04:11:09,480
Speaker 1: right now, they'd be like, oh yeah, remember that night

4229
04:11:09,520 --> 04:11:13,240
Speaker 1: Odi B came. Yeah, he took over the show, ended it,

4230
04:11:13,520 --> 04:11:16,400
Speaker 1: party was over. You go to Flavor Public and I

4231
04:11:16,480 --> 04:11:21,400
Speaker 1: mean anybody. Old B is known for coming. He's yeah,

4232
04:11:21,800 --> 04:11:22,880
Speaker 1: he's not part of the bill.

4233
04:11:24,040 --> 04:11:27,520
Speaker 3: He's a strange shows, he said, and she's a show destroyed.

4234
04:11:27,560 --> 04:11:30,840
Speaker 1: One night he brought me towards shows and destroyed. Yeah.

4235
04:11:30,840 --> 04:11:33,240
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, God call me, meet me. I met him.

4236
04:11:33,480 --> 04:11:35,400
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, let's go fuck these niggas up.

4237
04:11:37,400 --> 04:11:39,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, it's like, I'm old with him.

4238
04:11:40,160 --> 04:11:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm with him. I'm with him. We go up and

4239
04:11:42,440 --> 04:11:46,240
Speaker 1: we destroyed the show. He's like this, he said, this

4240
04:11:46,280 --> 04:11:51,120
Speaker 1: sh ain't real enough. You know me, Kielly. One night, Yeah,

4241
04:11:51,240 --> 04:11:57,280
Speaker 1: it's fighting over the remember that. Yes, yes he did it.

4242
04:11:58,040 --> 04:12:01,280
Speaker 1: Old B would come to your ship and in Miami

4243
04:12:01,400 --> 04:12:03,800
Speaker 1: he got jumped. Listen you know that, right, listen, hold

4244
04:12:03,840 --> 04:12:09,600
Speaker 1: on after if it ain't what he wants, he's gonna

4245
04:12:09,840 --> 04:12:12,000
Speaker 1: if he don't feel it, he's gonna suck it up.

4246
04:12:13,160 --> 04:12:17,040
Speaker 1: That night, Meth and Red was doing this ship Cableton

4247
04:12:17,160 --> 04:12:19,880
Speaker 1: was next because I got oldie story and I got

4248
04:12:19,920 --> 04:12:23,960
Speaker 1: myth story Meth, and they did with methic on who

4249
04:12:24,040 --> 04:12:27,040
Speaker 1: was to not MEPhI Red Man but O d B.

4250
04:12:28,480 --> 04:12:30,120
Speaker 1: I guess he wanted to be part of it that

4251
04:12:30,280 --> 04:12:33,240
Speaker 1: night and it was Meth because he can't be he

4252
04:12:33,320 --> 04:12:35,520
Speaker 1: can't do it in the world. It's like, but he

4253
04:12:35,680 --> 04:12:37,520
Speaker 1: felt like, I guess me. I don't know what Meth

4254
04:12:37,600 --> 04:12:39,080
Speaker 1: did to him. Meph was like he tried to like

4255
04:12:39,120 --> 04:12:41,440
Speaker 1: telling them, Chelse said. Odib was kind of little zoned out,

4256
04:12:42,680 --> 04:12:43,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was a little bit

4257
04:12:44,000 --> 04:12:47,160
Speaker 1: on e, a little bit past the level, but he

4258
04:12:47,240 --> 04:12:48,600
Speaker 1: wanted to get on there. I was like, nah, don't

4259
04:12:48,640 --> 04:12:51,760
Speaker 1: let the god on. The guard is not and they

4260
04:12:51,800 --> 04:12:58,400
Speaker 1: didn't let him on, and they did that ship but whatever,

4261
04:12:58,920 --> 04:13:01,600
Speaker 1: they leave his fucking state and they let odi be

4262
04:13:01,800 --> 04:13:06,920
Speaker 1: ond like these niggas haven't let me on, and they

4263
04:13:07,000 --> 04:13:13,280
Speaker 1: came with his next that ship. All this shit is weak.

4264
04:13:14,080 --> 04:13:17,240
Speaker 1: And he went on and he got see I mean

4265
04:13:17,320 --> 04:13:19,240
Speaker 1: before the show ended. Though. He did this because they

4266
04:13:19,280 --> 04:13:21,440
Speaker 1: won't let him on, they said before they show. He

4267
04:13:21,520 --> 04:13:25,440
Speaker 1: went on stage and he turned the turntables off over No,

4268
04:13:25,680 --> 04:13:27,880
Speaker 1: he brought the fingers down. Bro hold on. First, he

4269
04:13:27,920 --> 04:13:32,080
Speaker 1: started with the turntables. He turned the DJ set over,

4270
04:13:32,760 --> 04:13:37,320
Speaker 1: start pulling down speakers, was saying like, yo, fuck this show.

4271
04:13:38,320 --> 04:13:43,960
Speaker 1: Who tangs the best? Was yo? He came to this.

4272
04:13:44,360 --> 04:13:47,280
Speaker 1: Everybody's like he look, he didn't even on the bills,

4273
04:13:47,960 --> 04:13:51,280
Speaker 1: Like like we look at the bill, his name is

4274
04:13:51,320 --> 04:13:56,680
Speaker 1: not there. He says, happen to be in Miami. Nothing.

4275
04:13:56,760 --> 04:14:00,720
Speaker 1: Man's brother is happy to be performing, and he's like,

4276
04:14:00,760 --> 04:14:03,200
Speaker 1: oh ship, I'm gonna sucking my brother and I'm gonna

4277
04:14:03,240 --> 04:14:05,480
Speaker 1: take over the show. He's also known for that the

4278
04:14:05,600 --> 04:14:08,480
Speaker 1: ODB would come to your ship in a good way.

4279
04:14:09,040 --> 04:14:11,800
Speaker 1: If I did the show when ODB showed up, niggad

4280
04:14:11,800 --> 04:14:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna take a thirty minute break because he's gonna do

4281
04:14:15,280 --> 04:14:17,480
Speaker 1: this ship and they gonna love it. And I'll be

4282
04:14:17,600 --> 04:14:21,160
Speaker 1: like when he finished finish it, Hey, I come back,

4283
04:14:21,200 --> 04:14:23,800
Speaker 1: I'll do my ship that night. They didn't let him more.

4284
04:14:25,680 --> 04:14:28,680
Speaker 1: They was like no psightpher God, and he was like

4285
04:14:29,680 --> 04:14:37,120
Speaker 1: no cipher, no, no cipher. He threw speakers on the floor.

4286
04:14:37,320 --> 04:14:41,120
Speaker 1: It was and we all witnessed it. So that's the

4287
04:14:41,160 --> 04:14:48,920
Speaker 1: ODB start anyway, shot the ODB hell bress B all right,

4288
04:14:48,960 --> 04:14:53,440
Speaker 1: So let me get my best space Offseaell, this business

4289
04:14:53,480 --> 04:14:58,680
Speaker 1: is big business. Now I'll be going big business. You reccon, No,

4290
04:14:59,480 --> 04:15:02,840
Speaker 1: you don't know. You know good and you directed written

4291
04:15:02,880 --> 04:15:05,600
Speaker 1: and directed by the Rizzard. So it's not like it's

4292
04:15:05,600 --> 04:15:07,600
Speaker 1: not like the show is in the middle, you know

4293
04:15:07,640 --> 04:15:09,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. We didn't have all this shit in

4294
04:15:09,080 --> 04:15:13,040
Speaker 1: our sister and we're gonna get our tea up. We

4295
04:15:13,080 --> 04:15:15,960
Speaker 1: get like, this is professional. This movie cost ten million

4296
04:15:16,000 --> 04:15:19,400
Speaker 1: dollars to make. The name of the movie it's called

4297
04:15:19,440 --> 04:15:24,360
Speaker 1: One Spoon of Chocolate. So this movie started like this.

4298
04:15:27,640 --> 04:15:29,920
Speaker 1: I've been good in life. Life is good. I love it.

4299
04:15:30,120 --> 04:15:34,120
Speaker 1: Some assets and me and my wife was looking for

4300
04:15:34,240 --> 04:15:37,200
Speaker 1: maybe another place to another real estate. We've been doing

4301
04:15:37,240 --> 04:15:39,360
Speaker 1: good in real estate, so we thought we about another house.

4302
04:15:39,480 --> 04:15:41,800
Speaker 1: We saw a beautiful house. It was like Bama Lama.

4303
04:15:42,440 --> 04:15:45,120
Speaker 1: It was like the waterfall was from the ceiling in

4304
04:15:45,240 --> 04:15:48,160
Speaker 1: the pools. I like it. Yeah, yes, yeah, I like it.

4305
04:15:48,560 --> 04:15:51,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. California too, don't think about

4306
04:15:51,560 --> 04:15:54,960
Speaker 1: the fires. So we saw in the house was like

4307
04:15:55,080 --> 04:15:58,000
Speaker 1: Bama lamb. I was like, yo, yeah, I could build

4308
04:15:58,000 --> 04:16:02,760
Speaker 1: a studio right there. No steps. It's like more like

4309
04:16:02,960 --> 04:16:06,000
Speaker 1: it's like a dormitory type of studio for forty nine

4310
04:16:06,040 --> 04:16:10,120
Speaker 1: thousand square feet. Very beautiful place. Thank you. Hey, Bang

4311
04:16:10,200 --> 04:16:13,800
Speaker 1: Bong got a witness. I got a witness. Now it

4312
04:16:13,880 --> 04:16:16,760
Speaker 1: was real and I was like, wow, this is beautiful baby.

4313
04:16:17,400 --> 04:16:19,160
Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. You want to

4314
04:16:20,000 --> 04:16:22,960
Speaker 1: buy a new house or make a movie. And she

4315
04:16:23,080 --> 04:16:24,360
Speaker 1: looked at me, It's like, well, what do you want

4316
04:16:24,400 --> 04:16:28,480
Speaker 1: to do. I was like, make a movie. She's like, okay,

4317
04:16:28,520 --> 04:16:33,800
Speaker 1: let's make a movie. So she killed her idea, enrolled

4318
04:16:33,840 --> 04:16:38,680
Speaker 1: with my idea, and so and this happened through the

4319
04:16:38,680 --> 04:16:41,640
Speaker 1: New York State of mon tour, all my ones up,

4320
04:16:42,520 --> 04:16:44,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And on the back of

4321
04:16:44,320 --> 04:16:47,440
Speaker 1: the bus, I just kept writing. I started the script

4322
04:16:47,480 --> 04:16:51,760
Speaker 1: thirteen years ago after I made a movie called Man

4323
04:16:51,760 --> 04:16:54,320
Speaker 1: with the Aientist. I started writing this script, and even

4324
04:16:54,360 --> 04:16:58,120
Speaker 1: the executives of Universal, the executives at Universal, my man,

4325
04:16:58,760 --> 04:17:01,960
Speaker 1: Adam Foguson was its chief executive, and I was like, Adam,

4326
04:17:02,080 --> 04:17:04,400
Speaker 1: I got a couple of ideas for my next film.

4327
04:17:04,520 --> 04:17:08,680
Speaker 1: Because May with Iphish it wasn't a smash, but it

4328
04:17:08,760 --> 04:17:10,960
Speaker 1: made its money back and everybody made a few million hours,

4329
04:17:11,680 --> 04:17:13,760
Speaker 1: mind you, a few million hours. And the movie business

4330
04:17:13,760 --> 04:17:16,960
Speaker 1: is not good. It's cool it's just like we didn't

4331
04:17:17,000 --> 04:17:21,560
Speaker 1: lose money. Yeah, pay the janitors because you need to

4332
04:17:21,640 --> 04:17:24,280
Speaker 1: make a hundred to make two hundred. That's yeah. But

4333
04:17:24,440 --> 04:17:27,760
Speaker 1: still nobody lost money fucking with me. So you get

4334
04:17:27,800 --> 04:17:31,440
Speaker 1: another chance to dance. And so I told Adam. I

4335
04:17:31,520 --> 04:17:33,160
Speaker 1: was like, I got a couple of ideas. I started

4336
04:17:33,200 --> 04:17:37,240
Speaker 1: pitching these ideas, but the one that he said that

4337
04:17:37,440 --> 04:17:42,800
Speaker 1: sounded like it had market value was this one spoon

4338
04:17:42,840 --> 04:17:46,520
Speaker 1: of chocolate. And so he said, he taught me, you know,

4339
04:17:46,800 --> 04:17:50,800
Speaker 1: chase chase that. I said, cool. He taught me chase

4340
04:17:50,880 --> 04:17:54,760
Speaker 1: that wurs okay. Continue. So I leave and I started

4341
04:17:54,840 --> 04:18:00,480
Speaker 1: chasing it and I get stuck at page forty. That's

4342
04:18:00,520 --> 04:18:03,640
Speaker 1: that I've made two other movies. Bro, I got stuck

4343
04:18:03,720 --> 04:18:07,680
Speaker 1: for ten years at page forty. After two other movies.

4344
04:18:07,920 --> 04:18:11,000
Speaker 1: My brother Paul Hall. Paul Hall, you may know Paul

4345
04:18:11,080 --> 04:18:14,040
Speaker 1: Hall from you did a lot of Tyler Perry. Oh,

4346
04:18:14,080 --> 04:18:17,680
Speaker 1: Paul Hall did a lot of John Singleton Cheff Higher Learning.

4347
04:18:18,560 --> 04:18:21,840
Speaker 1: So Paul was that producer that guided John Singleton through

4348
04:18:22,640 --> 04:18:24,840
Speaker 1: and I met him because there was another movie. He

4349
04:18:25,000 --> 04:18:29,680
Speaker 1: was like, they let lions get hired. Lions get hired

4350
04:18:29,680 --> 04:18:31,800
Speaker 1: me to do a movie. And Paul was producing, and

4351
04:18:31,920 --> 04:18:34,080
Speaker 1: Bunk Bung and me and Paul was there right. So anyway,

4352
04:18:35,320 --> 04:18:39,600
Speaker 1: now we get to a point, you know, twenty fifteen,

4353
04:18:41,160 --> 04:18:44,000
Speaker 1: I started writing the Garrett when this movie, and I

4354
04:18:44,080 --> 04:18:48,320
Speaker 1: get twenty more pages and Bama lama froze again. Nothing.

4355
04:18:48,400 --> 04:18:49,680
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know to do this movie. I

4356
04:18:49,720 --> 04:18:51,480
Speaker 1: don't know how to finish it. I don't know where

4357
04:18:51,480 --> 04:18:55,640
Speaker 1: they're going. I'm stuck. And then we just go. But

4358
04:18:55,720 --> 04:18:58,000
Speaker 1: then the writers' strike happened. They might know when the

4359
04:18:58,040 --> 04:19:00,320
Speaker 1: writer strike a few years ago. I want to New

4360
04:19:00,400 --> 04:19:02,720
Speaker 1: York state of my tour. I just asked my wife

4361
04:19:02,760 --> 04:19:05,080
Speaker 1: what you want to do. She said, make a movie.

4362
04:19:05,360 --> 04:19:08,120
Speaker 1: I started digging through all my my ideas. I got

4363
04:19:08,320 --> 04:19:11,600
Speaker 1: like twenty ideas. I got twenty pages, ten pages, eighty pages,

4364
04:19:11,760 --> 04:19:15,360
Speaker 1: five pages in this one. I read to her. She said,

4365
04:19:15,480 --> 04:19:17,920
Speaker 1: I like where that's going. She didn't know where I

4366
04:19:18,000 --> 04:19:20,080
Speaker 1: was going to end, but I like where it's going.

4367
04:19:21,080 --> 04:19:24,800
Speaker 1: And I eventually uh on a tour. On the back

4368
04:19:24,840 --> 04:19:27,480
Speaker 1: of that tour bus, my wife on one pollow, me

4369
04:19:27,560 --> 04:19:31,800
Speaker 1: and one pillow, I wrote the whole movie. By the

4370
04:19:31,920 --> 04:19:35,960
Speaker 1: end of the tour, I had it, We had the economics,

4371
04:19:36,040 --> 04:19:39,080
Speaker 1: we had some other Financial Partners. That was down with me,

4372
04:19:40,000 --> 04:19:41,960
Speaker 1: and we went and made this movie. It's called One

4373
04:19:42,000 --> 04:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Spoon of Chocolate. It's gonna premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival,

4374
04:19:46,720 --> 04:19:52,640
Speaker 1: New York City, New York City. Shout out with It's

4375
04:19:52,640 --> 04:19:55,720
Speaker 1: gonna premiere June eighth at the Tribeca Film Festival in

4376
04:19:55,840 --> 04:20:00,000
Speaker 1: New York City. One Spool of Chocolate June eighth, New York,

4377
04:20:00,040 --> 04:20:10,280
Speaker 1: York City, Tribecca Film Festival, World pamea come fuck with us. Boom, yeah, oh,

4378
04:20:10,640 --> 04:20:13,280
Speaker 1: I like that. I got yo. I ain't gonna lie.

4379
04:20:13,360 --> 04:20:15,000
Speaker 1: I fly back on a.

4380
04:20:15,640 --> 04:20:19,080
Speaker 4: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production hosts and

4381
04:20:19,200 --> 04:20:22,600
Speaker 4: executive producers n O r E and dj e FN.

4382
04:20:23,800 --> 04:20:27,880
Speaker 4: Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify,

4383
04:20:28,200 --> 04:20:31,840
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4384
04:20:31,880 --> 04:20:34,480
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04:20:34,640 --> 04:20:37,160
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