1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: What we tried to do is get out ahead of 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: the curve and make a move before free agency starts. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: In that way, by doing so, you have a little 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: bit of an advantage over these other teams who are 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: all competing to the same players. My son Michael, for instance, 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: was in the car with me when we did the 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Hate in Artist trade. I had to swear him the 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: secrecy he knew about the trader for anybody else, including Hate. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: You want to find a good balance between having a 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: young team but also a few proven vets who bring ability, 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: but also leadership and other factors that you're looking for. That's, really, 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the silver bullet that everybody's looking for. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge. We're back after the weekend. Off 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: back to the daily Grind here, Garrett. Yeah, it doesn't stop. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Podcast is back up and running again, uh five days 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: a week. Uh. So we hope you enjoyed the first 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: the first week of the new daily uh podcast. And 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: now we're back back at it again. And now we 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: got the biggest guess you get, gentleman, Eric's costa. We're 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk to you today. That's right, that's right. And 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: as a precursor, uh, we still cannot talk about reported deals. Okay, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: so we're we can talk about confirmed deals with Eric, 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: but no commenting on the ones that have not been confirmed, 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: which that would be you know, there's the reports that 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens have signed Michael Brocker's but we cannot speak 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: about that with Eric today. Just right, Yeah, and so 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna jump in an interview with Eric. But as 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: always a reminder, you can reach us at the lounge 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: at the Ravens about NFL tie. Now, we've actually got 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: a ton of emails, more than we've received. People obviously 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: have some more time on their hands, so we we 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: have a ton of emails. We're gonna save those for 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: later in the week because we want to have a 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: chance to read a bunch of those. But for now, 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: we don't want to waste any more time. We want 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: to jump right into this interview with GM Erica Costa. 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: So thanks for joining us. Eric. Uh. First of all, 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: are are you still in the office where this looks 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: like the office behind you? Where are you doing your work? 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm in the office. I'm fortunately been able to come 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: in and I feel like I'm bunkering down over here 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: in the back of the building. And we have very 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: very few people here, just a handful of people. But 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: for me, especially with last week with restricted free agency 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: and all that going on, and also the draft at 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: the same time, for me to get my work done effectively, 47 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: it made a more sense for me to be in 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the office. Yeah, yeah, I'm jealous. I gotta min you 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: got the young kids at home. Did you try to 50 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: work from home and you're like, Nah, this isn't gonna 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: happen or what? Well, I've been doing both. I've got 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: a workstation at home where I can watch date. But 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: the hard part is just with all the salary cap 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: stuff going on and and everything, and combination of pro 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: free agency and also the draft, it makes the most 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: sense for me to be here as much as I can, 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: just so I have all access to all the stuff 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: we need to help us make decisions. Yeah, I think 59 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to tell my wife the same. Maybe 60 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: it just makes more sense for me to be at 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: home at work. You know, is is I gotta ask you? 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Is there is a lunch still being provided? And b 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: is there any toilet paper there? Because that might you know, 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: factor into my calculus here. Well, I I can't, I 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: can't confirm lunch, but I can't confirm that there's been 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: some toilet paper sightings. Um, you know, it's a little 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: bit like the walking Dead around here. You kind of 68 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: feel like you just here by yourself. Uh, you know, 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: like just a perspective, it's like I am legend Will 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: Smith and uh, you know that's what we've been dealing with. 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Who you're the last man standing. So it was in 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: a honestly, it was a busy week last week, the 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Clays Campbell move, the hayden Hurst move. So just to 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: start like big picture, how pleased were you with what 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you were able to do in the first week or 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: for agency? Well, those uh, those moves were works in 77 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: progress and we have been really going back to the 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: Combine on both of those moves, and they were kind 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: of working in con function because obviously the draft pick, 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: one of the draft picks that we received from the 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst trade, we used to get Klais Campbell. So 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: going back, you know, I remember being at the way 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: ends at the Combine and having discussions, uh preliminary discussions 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: with Thomas Dimitroff in regards to Hayden and you know, 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: they had a need a position and we felt like 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: that'd be a great spot for Hayden to go and 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: be a productive player, which is one thing that was 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: really important to him. You know, he's a guy that 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: has a lot of talent, and we had a lot 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: of talent with that position on our roster, and Hayden 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: really wanted the chance to to be a productive player 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: and to be you know, to be what he thought 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: he was gonna be as a starter and as a 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: guy that could really be an important piece of the 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: puzzle for a team. And being from Jacksonville, Atlanta was 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: a very attractive place for him to play, and we 97 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: were able to get that done. Thomas and I had 98 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: multiple conversations in person and also over the phone about 99 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Hayden trying to get something worked out. And as people 100 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: probably know, David Calwell and I are really good friends, 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: and you know, we had been talking about Calais. Fortunately 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: for us, we had the chance to spend some time 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: with Kilis at the Pro Bowl. We were very impressed 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: with him, thought it would be a great fit for 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: us on our defense, and David and I were able 106 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: to have some great conversations about Klis over the last 107 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: month or so and we were able to work that 108 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: deal out using a pick that we got from Atlanta 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: to make it a lot easier for us to get 110 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: the deal done. So there's been a lot of talk 111 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: this this off season about the edge rushers, you know, 112 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: and what are we gonna do about the pass rush 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And then you guys go ahead 114 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: and you make too you know, you make big additions 115 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: on the defensive line, retain a couple of our guys. Uh, 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: can you talk about, you know, what made the defensive 117 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: line and really upgrading that unit. Bull through that unit 118 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: such a focal point. Well, I think, first and foremost 119 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: as we look at our team, you know, I always 120 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: think about the building of a team as a puzzle, 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: and you know, you have a lot of missing pieces. 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: You try to fill in a few pieces, and once 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: you're fill in a few pieces, the puzzle gets easier. 124 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of always been my approach to 125 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: building the team for us and looking at it, we 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: thought there was an opportunity that we could improve the 127 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: defensive line, the front seven, whether that was defensive end, 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, nose tackle, inside linebacker, outside linebacker. Try to 129 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: fill in some of those pieces so that the draft 130 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: becomes you know, easier for us to approach. And I 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: think with Kalas, he's a guy that could play five technique, 132 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: three technique, probably even play knows. And as we look 133 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: at Brandon Williams, we feel like his his best positions 134 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: are three technique and knows. Um, so this is a 135 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: guy that really creates some interesting matchup problems for offenses. Um, 136 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, and we just we felt like it's it's 137 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: a guy. He's a guy. We've had a lot of 138 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: successful players like this. He's been a highly successful player 139 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: in other teams, right mentality team captain Walter Peyton, Man 140 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: of the Year, still playing at a very very high level. 141 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: This is the type of move we make it and 142 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: people say, well, that's the Ravens type of move, had 143 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: a lot of success with that in the past, and 144 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: we think Collis comes and really fits that for us 145 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: right away. When you guys do your off season, saw 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: it at Steve Schotti's house with with you and John 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: and the entire group there. It seems to me that 148 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: that you maybe went into that and you came out 149 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: of it with the with the takeaway of we need 150 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: to bolster the front seven, like we need to address 151 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: the defensive and based on what you did in the 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: first week of free agency was that is it accurate 153 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: to say that that was like a big takeaway from 154 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: that conversation that you guys had at that point. Well, 155 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: we did spend a lot of time talking about the 156 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: front seven and the defense in general and how we 157 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: felt like we had to augment those positions. And I 158 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: think that what we tried to do is get out 159 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: at head of the curve and and make a move 160 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: before free agency starts. In that way, by doing so, 161 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: you have a little bit of an advantage over these 162 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: other teams who are all competing for the same players. 163 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: My fear was that if we didn't get out early 164 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: to make a move, then there'll be a lot of 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, multiple parts that we were trying to juggle, 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: and it becomes a lot more difficult. So we felt 167 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: like a good strategy for us to try to make 168 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: a move before the period started. Then that would allow 169 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: us then to fill in behind that player. Right, So 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: you're saying basically like all for doing a trade as 171 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: opposed to maybe maybe the jag Jags move on from 172 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Clais and then you have to compete with other teams 173 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: in free agency. Yeah, we felt like there was an 174 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: opportunity that we might be able to get Calais. We 175 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: explored it. It made a lot of sense for us 176 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: to do that early on and to get him on board, 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: and that by that by doing it that way, it 178 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: becomes a lot easier to just feel in specific parts 179 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: of your defense, rather than when you're trying to get two, 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: three or four players. You're negotiating at the same time, 181 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: there's an emotional aspect to it. Typically teams have a 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: habit of overpaying in those situations. We really wanted to 183 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: be as clinical as possible. Can you talk about what 184 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: that is? Like? You talk about that just makes me curious, 185 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: Like when you're juggling all this stuff, how how difficult 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: is that for you as a general manager when you 187 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: know free agency opens up and and the bullets are flying. Well, 188 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good question. I've got three kids, 189 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: my daughter's sixteen, Jaye, my son Michael twelve, and my 190 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: youngest son, Jackson eight, And on any given weekend, they've 191 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: got to be in multiple places in time, and they've 192 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: all got different needs, They're all involved in different things, 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what free agency is all about. 194 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, you have all these different things going on. 195 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: They've all got to be attended to. They're all totally different, 196 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to, you know, juggle 197 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: them and and accomplish as many things as you can. 198 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: And it's like, if you can survive free chow all 199 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: four years apart on the weekend by free agency is 200 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the same thing. So are you able? Are they old 201 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: enough now where you know when it heats up you're like, guys, 202 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: you're just not gonna seev or hear from me much 203 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: for the next week or so. Or do they still 204 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: do you still have to run them around places, even 205 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: in the midst of free agency. Ah, we still. I 206 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: still do a lot of the running around now. I 207 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: can tell you that my kids here a lot of 208 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: interesting conversations in the car because as I'm driving around, 209 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I conduct a lot of business. I'm talking to coaches 210 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: and agents and players and different things. So, um, my 211 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: son Michael, for instance, was in the car with me 212 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: when we did they hate in her his trade and 213 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: so I had to swear him the secrecy he knew 214 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: about the trade, be for anybody else, including Hayden. Now, 215 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: social media, you gotta basically get your kids to find 216 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: ND eight when they get out of the car here. Yeah, 217 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: well then is if they tell somebody something, I just 218 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: take their phone away, so they're not going to do that. 219 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Powerful you got the ultimate leverage there. Um, go back 220 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: to Calais, do you see him? Kind of You've had 221 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: a lot of success in finding guys uh who later 222 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: in the careers. Smith is an example, Eric Weddle is 223 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: an example, and we could go down the line of 224 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: different guys that basically he just fits into this mold. 225 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: It's it's not the second contract, it's the third contracts 226 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: for a guy, Um, and they come in and they 227 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: have an immediate impact and they're a difference maker for 228 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: your team even though they're in the back nine of 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: their careers. Yeah. I think that's a great way of 230 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: looking at it, Garrett, And that really goes back to 231 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Ozzie and all the success that he had as a 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: general manager for the club. And I had a chance 233 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: to witness that firsthand many many times, even going back, 234 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago. Two guys like Rob Woodson 235 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: and Tony Sira Goosa and Sam Adams and Mike McCrary 236 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: and those types of guys, and over the years we've 237 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: continued to adhere to that model on a fine players 238 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: that really just care about one thing, and that's winning. 239 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: They're at the stage of their career where they're playing 240 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: for the ring. They love the game, they've been successful players, 241 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: in some cases elite players early on, and all they 242 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: want to do is win. And because of John, he's 243 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: been able to create this unbelievable culture here for veteran players, 244 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: and that spreads like wildfire, and players know that and 245 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: they want to be here because of that. That makes 246 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: this place attractive. And then when you add in the 247 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Lamar factor and that guys want to play with him, 248 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: and our successes with our coaching staff and what we've 249 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: been able to do, this place really does become a 250 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: destination spot for veteran players and it makes our job 251 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: a lot easier. Yeah, do you feel like that's like 252 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: there's just a ton of value there that maybe the 253 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: rest of the league doesn't value as much as we do. 254 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: Right like that that we look at a player and say, hey, 255 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: in his thirties, it doesn't mean he's done, you know, 256 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: he knows he Sometimes it takes a little while to 257 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: learn the game and in your prime can can even 258 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: come a little bit later later like it did for Claiss. 259 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: All right, I mean he's been playing some of his 260 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: best football very recently. You know, do you feel like 261 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: we kind of value some of those veteran players more 262 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: than some other teams might and thus we find great 263 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: value there? Well, I think it's it's um you want 264 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to find a good balance between having a young team 265 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: but also a few proven vets who bring ability, but 266 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: also leadership and other factors that you're looking for. That's really, 267 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the silver bullet that everybody's looking for. 268 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, for us, I mean we value 269 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: that tremendously. We've seen the impact that these types of 270 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 1: guys can have on your team. They bring obviously abilities 271 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: as excellent football players, but they also bring these intangible 272 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: qualities based on experience, leadership, history, and different things like that, 273 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: and they make you younger players even better. So that's 274 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: always been a model that we really believe been we've 275 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of success with it. It will continue 276 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: the challenges really to find the right guys. And so 277 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: as you go through it and you're looking at these 278 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: players in the fall, you're thinking to yourselves, who are 279 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: the guys that you really really want that play like 280 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: a Raven but also live like a rape m H. 281 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned, uh in the when you made the class 282 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: signing official, that you've had your eye on class for 283 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: a long long time, even dating back to the draft. 284 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Now unfortunately came out in the two thousand and eight, 285 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: so we had some other priorities that year when it 286 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: came to the first round. Uh. But can you talk 287 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: about when you know how much do you've really appreciate 288 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: your game and and were you even looking at him, 289 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: you and Ozzie looking at him last time you hit 290 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: free agency before he hit with the Jags, well, when 291 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: he became a free agent the last time you know, Uh, 292 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: he signed a heck of the deal really historically what 293 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens done the agency. Now as a player, we've 294 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: always had a lot of admir ration for Calias. He's 295 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: a great fit for our defense. Um, He's a giant 296 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: of a man. He plays very very hard. He's got 297 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: excellent technique, he can rush the passer, he can play 298 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: the run, and he's a guy that obviously takes very 299 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: very good care of his body. He's been a very 300 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: durable guy. He's missed very very few games in his 301 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: career as a player, and he's played at a very 302 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: high level for a very long time. So those are 303 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: the types of guys. Just going back to guys like 304 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Price, for instance, would be a great comparison to 305 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Chris Canty. Those types of guys who play that position, 306 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: but um, they're hard to find. That body type is 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: hard to find, that skill set is hard to find, 308 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: and the passion for the game is hard to find. 309 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: So if you can get a guy like that, he 310 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: checks off all those boxes, you better get that guy. 311 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: And that's what we tried to do and we felt 312 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: good about it and the deal with Jacksonville and we 313 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: were able to get a deal worked out with Tom Condon, 314 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: his agent. Uh. That was my first deal with Tom, 315 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: and that was a great experience for me. He's a 316 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: legend as an agent and a very skilled guy. That 317 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: was a great few days trying to get that deal 318 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: worked out and we were very very happy that we 319 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: could yeah, go back to Sea. Sorry, I was just 320 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna say make one thing that we should point out, 321 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and we've done this without Eric on the podcast, is 322 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: that we've been saying for weeks that we just feel 323 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: like Clais Campbell looks like a raven Like that is 324 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: the classic Ravens move. As soon as his name started 325 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: to come on the market and the buzz kind of 326 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: just started to build around him as potentially being out 327 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: there that we're like, this is a classic Ravens move. 328 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Did you guys feel that way too, Like as soon 329 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: as what the you know, the conversations with Dave cal Well, 330 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: as soon as they started to come up, We're like, oh, yeah, 331 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: if we can figure out the compensation, this is a 332 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: no brainer. Yeah, I think that's right, Garrett. You know, 333 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: as I said, we were fortunate uh to spend some 334 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: time with Calais at the Pro Bowl, and I actually 335 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: went over there after the Senior Bowl. I went over 336 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl to be with our players and 337 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: to support our players and coaches and had the chance 338 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: to spend a little time with Calais and found him 339 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: to be very, very engaging and just a wonderful guy 340 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: to talk to. Um, very thoughtful. But also if you 341 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: watch the game, he was the m v P defense 342 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: that game. And again, to find a guy that plays 343 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: so hard in a game like that, it's very revealing 344 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: to me. And so as we look at it and 345 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: we try and find the right fits. It was it 346 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: was clear to me that this guy would be an 347 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: excellent fit. Yeah, you know, you got both Pro Bowl MVPs, 348 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: hey Man, Lamar flamr One the offensive MVP. So, uh, 349 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: but make you started talking about Hey Now, I'm also 350 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: curious on Hayden what kind of led into that decision? Uh, 351 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: and the conversations that ultimately led to him getting you know, 352 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: traded to Atlanta. Well, at some point, um, you know, 353 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know when it was, but uh, you know, 354 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: after the season, you know, I had a discussion with 355 00:17:54,359 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: Hayden's agent and also with Hayden, and you know, there 356 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: was a sense that Hayden loved it here, of course, 357 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: but he was really anxious to prove what he could be. 358 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: And you know, these guys, these guys that play the game, 359 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: they want to play, and uh, he was anxious to 360 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: get out in the field and contribute and show the 361 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: world what he can do. And uh, you know I 362 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: understand that. And so there was, you know, feeling that 363 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: if he had the chance to play for somebody else 364 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: that he would welcome that. You know, you weigh those decisions. 365 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: You have to look at what's best for your club. Also, 366 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're not just gonna it was a business, 367 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: and we've got to do but best for the players sometimes, 368 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: but it's got to also be what's best for the club. 369 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: And so Hayden was a player that as other teams 370 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: look at our roster, they would see that he was 371 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: a guy that, you know, I was playing with some 372 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: other really good players, and teams look at your strengths 373 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: on your team, and sometimes we'll ask about players, and 374 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Hayden was a guy that sometimes teams would ask about. 375 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: I made the decision, based on conversations that we had 376 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: with Hayden and with his agent, that if a team 377 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: was able to, you know, match what I would consider 378 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: be fair compensation for Hayden, that we would consider trading him. 379 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: And there were probably three or four teams in the 380 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: mix at different UH price ranges UH in regards to Hayden, 381 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: and we weighed all those different things, and as we 382 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: got moving further along, it became clear that Atlanta was 383 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: probably the team that had the most interest, although there 384 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: were two other teams that had significant interests as well. 385 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: And I think that my relationship with Thomas Dimitroff, and 386 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: also the fact that you know, he would have the 387 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: chance to be closer to home and play with Matt Ryan. Uh. 388 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to put Hayden in the position 389 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: where he was going to succeed, and because of that, 390 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: I think Atlanta made a lot of sense as well. 391 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: And the bonuses you traded to the NFC so you 392 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: don't have to don't have to really worry about any 393 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: repercussions here. That was that was a factor as well. 394 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: You create a player to arrival or a team that 395 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: has a big need at that position that you have 396 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: to play against quite a bit. That's a bad feeling 397 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: when you do that, and those guys made plays against you, 398 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: so we didn't want to see that happen as well. Now, 399 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: speaking of that, what's up with you training with the Steelers? Well, 400 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: that was an interesting one as we're trying to find, 401 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, ways to number one, you know, free up 402 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: some salary cap space, but you're looking ahead, what would 403 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: our plans be moving forward a year from now. We 404 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: felt like that we were going in a different direction, 405 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: maybe on the defensive line, and if we had the 406 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: chance to to trade Chris Um it would be a 407 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: tough call. But again, what I try to do is 408 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: have a value in my mind, and the way that 409 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: way the team look at what we think we might get. 410 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: And for us, you know, always a tough call. The 411 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: combination of the salary cap room this year and getting 412 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick next year, Um, was something that 413 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: we felt like we should probably do. And you always wait. 414 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: I mean we did that last year when we traded 415 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: ger Main to the Patriots. You know, Um, when you 416 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: trade a player that you have to a rival team, 417 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: there's always a little bit of apprehension, but um, you 418 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: gotta go with what you think, and you can't you 419 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: know second, you know second think anything and you just 420 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: go through it. And you know, um, we thought it 421 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: was a good decision for us at the time. We 422 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: still stand by it. I think Chris is a good 423 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: young player and I think his best football is probably 424 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: ahead of him. But for us where we are as 425 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: a team, we felt like it made the most sense. 426 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: Can get back to tight end real quick? Does this 427 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: mean because I know some people, I mean a lot 428 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: of people love that our tight en trio, right, I 429 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: mean it was probably the best in the league. Does 430 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: this probably mean that you do look a little more 431 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: at the tight ends in the draft and adding a 432 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: third player. Well, I think the idea is just, you know, 433 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: how do we build the best team? And there's a 434 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: lot of different ways to do that. And you know, 435 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: do I think we'll add some skill players at some 436 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: point in the draft? Yes? Are those gonna be receivers, 437 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: tight ends, running backs? What's the combination gonna be? It's unclear. 438 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I think we've there's many many ways we can score 439 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: a lot of points. And fortunately we've got Greg Roman 440 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of skilled players. He has a chance 441 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: to coach, and I think we can score a lot 442 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: of points. And so if we add a tight end, 443 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: it will be the right tight end, and if we 444 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: add receivers, they will be the right guys at that moment. 445 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: And we'll try to build the best team we can 446 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: given the situation we're in, and I'm confident that our 447 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: coaches and players will work together to score a lot 448 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: of points. Right, So, so three positions not addressed yet 449 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, inside linebacker, wide receiver. Guard. Just if we 450 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: can just talk about this a little bit because I'm 451 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: sure you know Eric, you know Ravens fans, you get, 452 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: you get great players and then you're like, all right, 453 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: what's next too? Else? Am I getting right. We're all 454 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: spoiled by your moves by now that this is kind 455 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: of how we think. So, uh, at outside linebacker, I mean, 456 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: how do you kind of how good do you feel 457 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: about that spot right now that you've franchise Tagon, Matthew Judon, 458 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: obviously you have Jalen Ferguson, Tires Bowser returning. You know, 459 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: how do you look at that spot right now? Well, 460 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing, you know, if we 461 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: have the chance to get a guy that we think 462 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: will help our team while add them, we're trying to 463 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: find the best nine draft picks we can, We're trying 464 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: to sign the best free agency we can given how 465 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: much cap space we have. But we're only going to 466 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: go after guys that we think can really help this 467 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: football team. So if there is an outside linebacker that 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: we think can come in and compete early on to 469 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: play on as a rookie get on the field, we're 470 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: probably going to add that guy. And if we think 471 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: there's a guy that we can add the later parts 472 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: of the draft who can develop into being a good 473 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: player a year from now, two years and now, that's 474 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: a possibility as well. But we've always got to look 475 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: at those players versus other positions, and you never want 476 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: to take a player that's not gonna help it just 477 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: because he plays a position that you need help act. 478 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: And that's just a recipe for disaster. And every team 479 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: does that at times. You take guys and make we 480 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: call that a reach or a stretch, and if you 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna be disappointed. And we don't want 482 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: to do that. So you can rest assured that if 483 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: we take a guy, we think this guy is gonna 484 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: be the right guy for us to help us moving forward. 485 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: And uh, and that's the challenge. And so if there's 486 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: nobody there at that position, we'll look at other guys 487 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: other positions trying to find out who the best guys 488 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: are to help us win our first football game of 489 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: next year. So you've got a lot of successive of 490 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: the course of history in that kind of that second 491 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: third wave of free agency. You know, the initials, the 492 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: initial splash that happened last week. But then guys you 493 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: maybe get a little bit more value as things quiet 494 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: out a little bit. Do you feel like there could 495 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: once again be an opportunity to have success. You know, 496 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I think of a guy like a Darryl Smith from 497 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: several years ago. No one's really talking about him at 498 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: the time, and he comes in and played really well 499 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: for you. Do you feel like there are those types 500 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: of players who will be available that you can still 501 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: find over the course of the next few weeks and 502 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe either month. I think the idea of flexibility and 503 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: just putting yourself in a position where you can react 504 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: to anything that comes across your desk, and that was 505 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm really proud of about 506 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: last year is we we had some flexibility so that 507 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: with the Marcus Peters became available, we can go after him. 508 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: And so I think we're in a position now that 509 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: we have the flexibility to really look at anything that 510 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: comes across my desk, whether it's a player or draft pick, 511 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: a trade assigning, whatever it might be, we have the 512 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: chance to really look at it. We're not eliminating any possibilities, 513 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: will be flexible, will be aggressive when we can be, 514 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: and what pons if we can have the combo And 515 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious that this has changed now you have you know, 516 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: you have more picks because the cop pick the cop 517 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: picks are in. You got the you know picks for Hayden, 518 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: so you've got two second round X two their round picks, right. Um, 519 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: does that make you any more likely to maneuver around 520 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: on draft weekend? You think? But actually maybe even move 521 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: up in the first round. Well, I love to move 522 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: around the board, as you guys know, and we've done 523 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: that as much as probably any team in the league 524 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: over the last twenty four years, and we'll continue to 525 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: do that. You know, I'm open for business at all times, 526 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: and you know I'll work with teams, I'll work with gms. 527 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: We love making trades and usually those trades work out 528 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: for both parties. And so if anybody's interesting, give me 529 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: a call. Actually done, Eric, How how has uh COVID 530 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: nineteen and all the fallout from it affected your guys 531 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: draft preparation? Yeah, well it really has, Um. But you know, first, 532 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: first I should say to everybody out there that you know, 533 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: you've got to be smart and you've got to be safe, 534 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I think you've got to take care 535 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: of your family and do the right things. And I 536 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: hate hearing all these stories about people acting recklessly and 537 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: being out, you know, doing things. The most important thing 538 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: right now is to take care of your families and 539 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: take care of yourselves, wash your hands, protect each other, 540 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: love each other, do things together as a family, playboard games, 541 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: hang out, just spend time together. This is really a 542 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: gift in some respects that we've been given where we 543 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: can spend time with people that we love every single 544 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: day and kind of get back to what's most important society, 545 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: which is really love and trusted being together, not being 546 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, disengaged looking at your phones all the time 547 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: and just not talking communicating. So, um, this has been 548 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: a process for us that we're still working through. And 549 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: I think that, um, communication is the biggest thing. And 550 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: how do we adapt and how do we stay flexible, 551 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: how do we gain an advance you know, compared to 552 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: other teams, which I'm always thinking about, and how do 553 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: we build the best team we can? And this is 554 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: a challenging time. We can't do the things that we're 555 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: accustomed to doing. We can't be meeting with these players, 556 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: we can't be working out players, we can't be visiting 557 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: with players. So what are the things that we can do? 558 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: And uh, we'll take advantage of those things as best 559 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: as we can. You know, I'll probably have to be 560 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more hands on this year with the 561 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: draft and I was last year, quite honestly, because our 562 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: meeting schedules will be different. The way we do things 563 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: are going to be different. We may not have as 564 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: much information as we've had over the last you know, 565 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: a few years regarding players. We're not gonna have workout 566 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: information for a lot of players. We're not going to 567 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: have interviews for some of these players. There may not 568 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: be medical rechecks um for us to look at and consider. 569 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: So what are we gonna do. We'll have a plan 570 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: rest ashore. I'll be watching every single player in this 571 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: draft and go back to my days as the college 572 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: scouting director. And we'll work together. And we've got a 573 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: great staff of people, and even if we can't beat together, 574 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: we can get on the phone, we can work remote, 575 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: we can video conference each other, and we'll make the 576 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: best decisions that we can for this club. And we'll 577 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: try to hopefully look back on this someday and say, 578 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: you know what, we did the best we could. We 579 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: found some really good football players, we survived, everybody stayed healthy, 580 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: We got through this as a country, and here we 581 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: are still standing. Are you getting hassled at all about 582 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: wearing a mask into the office. No, I haven't gotten 583 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: hassled yet, very vers no one there to hal with you. No, 584 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: not really. I meant before you left the house in 585 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: the morning. Nah No. Um, I usually leave the house 586 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: before my family is even awake. So yes, you know 587 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: there's there's nobody hass to me. I mean honestly, some days, 588 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't talked to anybody until I get 589 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: home at night. Wow. Wow, Well stay safe, Eric. We 590 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on with as we really do, and uh, 591 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: have fun doing your business. Definitely do stay safe. We 592 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: we need to your national treasure at this point, all right, 593 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: you that we all love. Yeah, we need to help me, Eric, 594 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: all right, I'm in self quarantine and uh listen, I 595 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: just I want the Ravens fans to know we care 596 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: about you all, we care about the community, and we 597 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: just all have to stick together and do the right 598 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: things and take care of each other and we'll see 599 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: you all soon. All right, Well, thank you very much, Eric, 600 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Eric. Okay, got cool, really good stuff from Eric. Uh. 601 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, I thought, I think it's interesting the back 602 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: and forth with the Hayden deal. You know, it's interesting, 603 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: and I was wondering kind of how much Hayden came 604 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: to the Ravens uh to kind of request the trade. UM, 605 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: and I think, like Eric said, I mean, Hayden loved 606 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: it in Baltimore, you know, I mean super close friends. 607 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think of that video that we have, 608 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: like Hayden sing Friends Forever, you know, with Mark Andrews 609 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: and Boil. He loved it here. But as we talked 610 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: about previously, you could definitely tell that he had wanted 611 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: to break out more and saw that you know, he 612 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: wasn't because of the players he was playing with gonna 613 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: have the fullest outratuity here. So I thought that was interesting. 614 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: I thought so too, And I felt like that might 615 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: have been the case because his name had come up 616 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: several times over the course of the last six months, 617 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: and so when you start to see that, but you know, 618 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: when there's smoke, there's fire, um And so I felt 619 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: like that might have been the case. And it was obvious, 620 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: like we've talked about before, that you know, Hayden wanted 621 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: opportunities to get more involved and he was a bit 622 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: frustrated with his role. So UM and I thought it 623 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: was interesting hearing Eric talked about it, which is that 624 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: he obviously getting the best deal is is the top priority, 625 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: but he also was considerate of where he felt like 626 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: Hayden would be in position to succeed. Um. It felt 627 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: like going down to Atlanta, being closer to home, playing 628 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: in that past heavy offense with Matt Ryan at quarterback 629 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: would be good for him. UM. And that weighed into 630 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: the decision, which I think weeks to uh, Eric and 631 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the organization. UM. So you know, really, you know, obviously 632 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: they're fire up out Clay's campbell, which you know, which 633 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: we knew. UM, but it's it sounds like like he 634 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: was saying it's something you know what we've been saying. 635 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: This is a classic Raymond's move, Like he feels that way, 636 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: just like we feel that way. Yeah, for sure, for sure. 637 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: So you think he's going to trade up in the draft. 638 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: I think he's open to it, no question, I mean 639 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: no question about that. You know, he always kind of 640 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: jokes that all we love to move around the board. 641 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know that I've heard him say that openly. 642 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: We're open for business. Call me, may you know, put 643 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: the banner out there, put it out there on I 644 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: eighty three or ninety five. I am open. I don't 645 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: think boards work the other gms aren't driving around. I 646 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: don't know if he doesn't that's true. Um, but he 647 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: he wants everybody to know that if you call him, 648 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: he is gonna be looking to maneuver around. I mean, 649 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if that mean's up for back, but 650 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: they've got nine picks. They've got two in the second round, 651 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: two in the third. Like I think it's gonna be Uh. 652 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: I think it's more like that they move up this year. Yeah, yeah, 653 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: I think it's Uh, it's it's very interesting. I mean 654 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: last year we saw the Steelers went up and got 655 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: Devin Bush. They traded up ten spots to get Devin Bush, 656 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: who which worked out quite well for them. Uh. He 657 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: was a really good rookie in their defense in the 658 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: middle of their defense. Do the Ravens make a similar 659 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: move for an inside linebacker, whether that be Kenneth Murray 660 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: or Patrick Queen or do you feel confident that you know, 661 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: if one of those two, that one of those two 662 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: guys get to uh, you know, because obviously you look 663 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: at it right now and kind of what I was 664 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: talking to Eric about, you know, there's some positions that 665 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: haven't been addressed yet where you still look at it, 666 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: and like he said, it's a puzzle and you want 667 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: to plug in as many pieces as possible. Inside linebacker 668 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: to me is one that you know, clearly the Ravens 669 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: need to make an addition or two at that spot, 670 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: with Peanut being a free agent, Josh Bines being a 671 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: free agent. Uh So it just that to me, if 672 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: you're going to trade up, you know, makes a lot 673 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, yeah, well yeah, I think that the 674 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: likely scenario would be they just say they're sitting there, 675 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: we're at twenty and Patrick Queen's already gone and kind 676 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: of you know, I think that would be the scenario 677 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: if they're gonna go in drafted inside the linebacker, say 678 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Peanut leaves and free agency, which those reports that maybe 679 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Peanut could have, they could and he 680 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: could end up back in Baltimore. So we'll see what 681 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: happens there. But let's just say one of those linebackers 682 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: was gone and they're sitting there and it's neverou about 683 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: him getting blocked. That would be the scenario that I 684 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: think it's most likely for them to go up and 685 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: and and get up somebody get you know, Murray or Queen, 686 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: whoever would be there, particularly one of If both of 687 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: them are there, I think you just probably you know 688 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: Stan pat stam Pat Wait wait wait wait, and then 689 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: you could potentially have your pick of them or or 690 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: um or one of them is available to you. So um, look, 691 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna it's interesting. We're gonna talk about all that 692 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: over the course of the next month. So um, thanks 693 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: again to Eric for joining us. For sure, Yeah, for sure, 694 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: and you can always reach us at the lounge at 695 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. We are also going to 696 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: be talking to Dick Cass, team president UH and talking 697 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: with him a lot about the COVID nineteen and how 698 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: that's impacting the Ravens as well, to make sure you 699 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: tune in for that tomorrow. Thanks for listening, and we'll 700 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: be back.