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Speaker 1: car doctors, sir. How can I help? Hey, Ron, thanks

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Speaker 1: that brittle plastic like you know, maybe Folkswagen follows the

426
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: theory of if you can't get it apart, pull harder

427
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: until you hear a snapper, it comes loose. It's one

428
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: or the other. And I was really surprised to see

429
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: how much more plastic they've they even had in two

430
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: thousand four. But here's the tip I wanted to pass

431
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: on to you. So once you get it down to

432
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: the point where you get the timing belt off. You

433
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: can't remove the lower engine mount support bracket because well,

434
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: it's just the timing belt roller. There's a roller or

435
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 1: what i'll call an idler pully and then the tension

436
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: or assembly in the way. You've actually got to take

437
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: the roller out, then take the motor mount bracket out,

438
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: then take the tension or out. And I have a

439
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: problem with that. If anybody from Volkswagen is listening, because

440
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: you're you're you're making it that much more difficult, uh,

441
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: to to do the disassembly. And uh, you know, we

442
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: sat there and looked at it and said, why would

443
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: they do it like this? There was no other way.

444
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: Everything is layered upon everything else. And I imagine if

445
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: I were a Volkswagon tech and that's all I did

446
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: all day long, I'd have the job down cold. But

447
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: this is what I mean when I start to talk

448
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: about proprietary or self exclusive repair procedures. Volkswagon has created

449
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: something that is very unique into themselves, and until you

450
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: start to do a half a dozen or two dozen,

451
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: or you get very good at it, and then they'll

452
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: change something and it makes it a very difficult car

453
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: to work on. So I guess the point of this

454
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: conversation I'm trying to have with you today is if

455
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: you want to understand why some car lines are more

456
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: expensive to repair than others, you've got to understand the

457
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: repair process. You've also got to understand how the manufacturer

458
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: is assembling that car and what components they're using to

459
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: meet their their budget requirement. Although I think I suspect

460
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases it's also about the mileage

461
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: per galon the MPG s and I'm sure plastic figures

462
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: into the us on Volkswagen because they want to hit

463
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: a certain MPG. One of the things that was really

464
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: disappointing and also not a surprise is the shielding. Everything

465
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: on this Volkswagen is wrapped in plastic. Everything the lower

466
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: belly pan, the side skirt, the lower radiator cover, and

467
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: they're all interconnected into themselves. As a matter of fact,

468
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: I have to admit taking it apart. There was one

469
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: belly pan that went up under the valance that goes

470
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: under the radiator and it took me a minute. Gee,

471
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: I took this off from here right like, I'm looking

472
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: at it, going this doesn't look like it came from

473
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: this car, but it says V W want it. It's

474
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: got to have come from this car, and of course

475
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: it had. It had suffered, you know, twelve years of

476
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: on the road and some road rash, and that the

477
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: cover was cracked and falling apart. And they don't make

478
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: it easy. They really don't. However, the plus, I gotta

479
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: tell you, they make a heck of an engine. The

480
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: metal parts on the folks Wagon held up really well.

481
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that tongue in cheek. They did

482
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: a great job. Um. Once we got this car back together,

483
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: once I assembled everything, topped it with coolant, burped it

484
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: changed the hoses that were leaking, the flange on the

485
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: driver's side of the head that was leaking. Car ran well,

486
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: it burped coolant well, it did what it was supposed

487
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: to do. When I tell you to buy one, I

488
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: think one of the reasons I don't list VW in

489
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: my by category is prime Merrily because of the expense

490
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: of doing a repair like this. All said and done,

491
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: this was close to two grand by the time we

492
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: did timing, belt, water pump, cool and flange, a couple

493
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: of hoses, a regular belt, uh probably two and at

494
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: all is worth a general service. So you know you've

495
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: got to have the stomach for it. You know, to

496
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: put two grand in a twelve year old car, not

497
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: many people would do it. This particular owner, he understood it.

498
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, Ron, I'm gonna put I wanna put

499
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: two grand in this. He goes, haven't put a lot

500
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: of money in the car in the last couple of years,

501
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: and it's cheaper than buying a new one. And I

502
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: applaud eric for that. He really understood that. But it's

503
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: not for everybody, and that's what maybe that's what makes

504
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: me think that, you know what, I get to hear

505
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: about Volkswagen a lot. But at the root of it,

506
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: it's a good car. It's just a little different to

507
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: work on. And sometimes I think Volkswagen took a lesson

508
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: from General Motors because GM back in the day and

509
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: still something to this point, to this moment in time,

510
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: GM still does layered what I call layered assembly, where

511
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: one component depends upon another, depends upon another and so on.

512
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Folkswagon took it to a new level with this VW,

513
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: with this one eight turbo timing built and uh, you know,

514
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: it's just wow. Um funny thing is I posted this

515
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: conversation up on Facebook. I said, note to self, and

516
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about it on today's show, and

517
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: it was interesting to see some of the see some

518
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: of the responses that it generated. One fellow Roady said, yeah,

519
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: German cars and I'm paraphrasing here, German cars way over engineered.

520
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: They use eight bolts on they bolts to hold one

521
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: thing on and they're usually a grade eight, and their

522
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: their multiple size fastener heads and they just make it

523
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: way too complicated and difficult to work on another cars.

524
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: And I think that young man kind of sized it

525
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: up and and and said it probably what what's my

526
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: sentiments exactly? I couldn't devected it much better than that.

527
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: So just be wary, good car. Just know what you're buying,

528
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: and make sure the person working on it can work

529
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: on it and has the ability to get information and

530
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: good quality parts, which is that's a whole another conversation

531
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: that was, you know, fortunately we have a source for

532
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: Bosch and we were able to get some Bosh parts

533
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: for it. And you know, obviously Bosch with Volkswagen and

534
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: Bosch Ortal parts, they make other parts for you know,

535
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: other than Volkswagen. They do make old makes, all models.

536
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: They're going across old lines now. But you know it's

537
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: it's comforting to see Bosch components for that Volkswagen um,

538
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: because that's what helps make it, you know, from the Fatherland, right, um,

539
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: good German engineering, so good stuff. Um. But anyway, zero

540
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: running any of the Car Doctor coming back right after this?

541
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah wait, let's le let's play for a second.

542
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: You can just see Samuel Jackson walking. Can't you run

543
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor. I was just watching that

544
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: movie last night. Shift. I just I love that movie.

545
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: I love the music, I love everything about it. You

546
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: know that that only got like a seven rating, seven

547
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: out of ten on on on the IMDb uh website.

548
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that. I thought that was a really

549
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: good movie, probably because of the remake. Yeah, but but

550
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: you know it was. I thought it. And then help

551
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: me out here, tone Shift, excuse me a minute. Shift

552
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: was never a TV show, was it. It was had

553
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: two episodes, but it didn't lasted long. But it started

554
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: off as a movie. So Richard round Tree created that

555
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: role in the movies and that's what kind of propelled him. Yes,

556
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: you know the scene excuse me again a minute. You

557
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: know the scene when he walks into the bar to

558
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: see Lawrence Taylor. Okay, there's a gentleman with white hair

559
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: sitting down. Who is that? I just the actor? Character

560
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: did he play? That's going in parks? And who's that?

561
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: He's he's the one. He's the original director. He directed

562
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: the original Cheft movie with Richard round Tree. So they

563
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: gave him a cameo in the movie. Yeah, he had

564
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: a cameo. He looked like somebody famous. I just you know,

565
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: people like us, famous people kind of know what each

566
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: other looked like. So I just sort of you know

567
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: that in the three buck I'll get you through the tunnel.

568
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: Uh somewhere let's um. I was gonna do an email,

569
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: but you know what, I see. Tom's got Eric from

570
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: Louisiana on the phone. Eric, you're out with the car, doctor, sir,

571
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: what's going on? How can I help? Hey? Ron? Yes, sir,

572
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: let me take off. Yeah, yeah, give me a give

573
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: me a good shot at this, now help me out, Yes, sir,

574
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah. I had a question won't even had

575
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: in Cabins the question. Yeah, and uh, you finally found it,

576
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: right what a new mechanics found it with no problem.

577
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: But I got a I got a question about that.

578
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: What if they do. Back in the seventies and eighties

579
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: when they didn't have one, the air was cleaner. I

580
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a good point, you know, you know

581
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: I well, and you know what I think. I was

582
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: just you know what. I think part of it is Erica.

583
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: I think part of it is that, you know, seventies

584
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: and eighties, I don't know if the technology was there,

585
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know if we worried about it. You know,

586
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: part of what a cabin filter does, it purifies the

587
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: year we breathe. But they're is also a concern for

588
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: contemninant to get on the A C evaporator in the

589
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: heare core, all right. And I think a lot of

590
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: cabin filter or the push for cabin filter technology came

591
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: about in the mid eighties early eighties. If you notice

592
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: a lot of jeeps for example, Um, they noticed that

593
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: there were problems with you know, moisture sitting on the

594
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: material that the evaporators are made out of, the the

595
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: A C coils and stuff. Um, they would get moisture

596
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: on them, and they would rot and they would leak.

597
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: And they found that cabin filters kept them cleaner and

598
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: we're less likely to allow the system to leak, and

599
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: so you know, long term down the road, cabin filter

600
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: is no different than the filter that's in the heating

601
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: un today see unit in the house, And I think

602
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: they've realized the benefits from it, and then they finally

603
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: figured out how to put it into the car, and uh,

604
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: you know that it now becomes a consumable maintenance item.

605
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: So did you have a second part of the question, Eric, Yeah,

606
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: my two dollars and eight Nissan Frontier. I just got

607
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: a question on the horn. Um, I know it's possible,

608
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to sound Greek when I talked

609
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: to the mechanic. Can you like warm an extra horn

610
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: on it and make it louder? Let me answer it

611
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: this way. When I had my original seventy two Monty Carlo,

612
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: way back when in the days of college, I used

613
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: to travel the New Jersey Garden State Parkway, two horns

614
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: on the Monte Carlo in morning rush hour traffic didn't

615
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: make it, so I went and found another settle horns.

616
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: I had four horns on the car when I got

617
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: up to the toll booth. This was before the days

618
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: of easy pass. When I got up to the toll booth.

619
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: If you cut me off. You knew it, so my

620
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: concern was the only thing I did was I measured

621
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: the amptraw of what each horn would pull, and I

622
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: made sure the circuit would would would adequately support that,

623
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: and in those days it did so in this case,

624
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: I would just tell you to having a mechanic to

625
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: just make sure the circuit will electrically be supported, that

626
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: it's not gonna put too much of a load on

627
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: the circuit and you know, cause any problems. But if

628
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: you can measure with the amperage, you'll have no problem

629
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: doing it. If not, I'll just to figure out another

630
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: way to wire an additional power source for that horn.

631
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: But absolutely, you know what, Sometimes a louder the better

632
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: tell people to get out of the way. And I

633
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: say that seriously because of the people in Louisiana drive

634
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: anything like people in New Jersey. Sometimes I'm thinking I'm

635
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: thinking of inventing the clown car. You know that that

636
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: that boxing glove that comes out the side mirror when

637
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: you're driving along, because some people need to wake up

638
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Speaker 1: the way they're driving today. It's um, it's really amazing.

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Speaker 1: Eric appreciated the call, and good luck to you and

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Speaker 1: yours down there, Louisiana way, I'm running any of the

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Speaker 1: car doctor. I'm coming back right after this. Hey Ronnie

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Speaker 1: his guard doctor. We're are back and we dedicate that

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Speaker 1: to Malcolm Young Um rest in peace, brother, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: all that you did. Quick piece of email. Hey ron

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Speaker 1: it's time for my Camaro's vacation. I have a quick

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Speaker 1: jack that will lift it off the ground at the factory.

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Speaker 1: Jack points should I leave the car one totally off

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00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: the ground too, with Jack stands at the corners, just

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Speaker 1: leaving the tires free, or three on the ground with

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Speaker 1: over inflated tires. It will be in a garage under

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Speaker 1: the house that is dry, end heated. The tank is

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Speaker 1: full with stable and the battery tender attached. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: the show's podcast. It's great for guys who work on Saturdays.

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Speaker 1: This comes to us from fix it All twenty three.

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Speaker 1: It's an email. UM. I like leaving it on the ground.

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Speaker 1: It's only gonna be three or four months, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be I like the idea of on the ground over

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Speaker 1: inflated tires, maybe lifted up in a month and move

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Speaker 1: the tires around to a different spot if you want

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Speaker 1: to do that. I personally like the idea of starting

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Speaker 1: them once a month. You know, Blacks in her winter hibernation.

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Speaker 1: Right now, she's sitting in the heated garage, and um,

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Speaker 1: I don't even go as far as filling the gas tank.

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it at that point because I'm

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Speaker 1: actually gonna try and sneak it out somewhere around uh

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Speaker 1: usually mid December we'll get a break of you know,

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Speaker 1: dry weather and um, sort of mildly cold but not

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Speaker 1: super cold. Take it out for a blast around the

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Speaker 1: block ones and then put it away. And then January, February, March, um,

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Speaker 1: same thing. I'll run it once a month and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, not have an issue, and it's a very

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Speaker 1: dry garage. I don't have rust inside the tank problems,

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Speaker 1: but I like leaving them sitting on the ground. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to leave the suspension in the extended position.

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Speaker 1: Plus it puts undue strain on the body over time.

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Speaker 1: You know, That's how some of these cars will develop

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Speaker 1: cracks in the body at various points the A pillar,

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Speaker 1: the B pillar, and I don't think it's good for them,

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Speaker 1: even though they're supported on a frame. All that the

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Speaker 1: effects of gravity over time does have an effect on it,

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Speaker 1: So I'd rather let the car sit on the ground

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Speaker 1: and just plan to run it. Obviously, fluid levels are important. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the battery tender is a great idea. Uh, heat is

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Speaker 1: probably the most important, just to keep it at an

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Speaker 1: even temperature. And it wouldn't hurt to go out there

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Speaker 1: once in a while and kick it around and started.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, all good stuff. Leaving on the ground. I

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Speaker 1: vote for leaving it on the ground so it's in

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Speaker 1: a unnatural position and just so you never know. He

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Speaker 1: may get a break in the middle of the winter

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Speaker 1: where you can actually drive it and let it do

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Speaker 1: its things. So that's it for now. I'm running any

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Speaker 1: of the car and actor looking up saying it's time

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Speaker 1: to go until the next time. Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: Let's see you. She goes to sp