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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back George nor with you, Kieren Anderson with us.

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Speaker 2: Her book is called The Pet I Can't Forget. As

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Speaker 2: we talk about animal communication and the afterlife. Are our

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Speaker 2: departed pets with family members who have died? Karen?

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Speaker 3: You know, almost always, George, when a departed animal comes through,

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Speaker 3: there with somebody and what we call our soul group.

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Speaker 3: So that would be a loved one, human loved one

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Speaker 3: that has passed on. So yeah, they are definitely with

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Speaker 3: our our human departed loved ones.

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Speaker 2: Are they there to comfort us or the departed one?

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Speaker 3: A both? Actually, and even if somebody didn't particularly like animals.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you had a grandmother that didn't like cats,

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Speaker 3: she would still be there with your departed cats because

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Speaker 3: you are the common denominator and both of them love you,

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Speaker 3: so they come together in the afterlife.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your soul group, Well.

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Speaker 3: A soul group is everyone that we have incarnated with

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Speaker 3: in this lifetime. So it doesn't have to be a

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Speaker 3: blood relative. It can be a friend, it can be

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Speaker 3: a neighbor, a coworker, it's somebody that has had a

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Speaker 3: significant impact on this lifetime and this sole group is

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Speaker 3: somebody that are These are people that will often send

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Speaker 3: messages through to you and signs from the afterlife, including

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Speaker 3: your departed companions.

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Speaker 2: Now, how do you handle people who there are some

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Speaker 2: out there who just don't like animals? How do they

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Speaker 2: affect this?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's hard for me to imagine that.

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Speaker 2: I know there's some folks out there, of Karen, there.

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Speaker 3: Are there are, But for those people who truly don't

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Speaker 3: like animals, You know, I understand everybody's unique, everybody's different,

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Speaker 3: But there's so much that they can teach us. There's

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Speaker 3: so much we can learn from them. And in many

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Speaker 3: ways they've kind of got it figured out a lot

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Speaker 3: more than humans.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: They they're in the present moment. They don't worry about yesterday,

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Speaker 3: and they don't stress about tomorrow. They're right here right now,

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Speaker 3: enjoying the moment and living their life to the fullest.

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Speaker 3: And we could really learn a lot from them.

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Speaker 2: What communicates with us more the pet that's living or

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Speaker 2: the pet that has passed on?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. I would say probably the

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Speaker 3: one that is living, because they want so much of

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Speaker 3: your attention while they're here. So that would probably be

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Speaker 3: my best guess. You know that they tune out a

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Speaker 3: lot of what we run through our minds because it

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Speaker 3: doesn't concern them, But they're certainly trying to get our

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Speaker 3: attention while they are here with us and still alive.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever run into anybody who treated an animal

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Speaker 2: badly and the animal passed on, Maybe not at the

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Speaker 2: hands of the individual, but it died. Did the guy

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Speaker 2: ever feel regret or any remorse or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I've had a lot of feelings of remorse come true

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Speaker 3: from departed humans, and that's something that I rarely. I

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Speaker 3: don't think I've ever felt regret or remorse come true

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Speaker 3: from a departed animal. So that's an interesting comparison to me,

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Speaker 3: the feelings of regret and remorse. That's more of a

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Speaker 3: human concept than an animal concept.

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Speaker 2: Explain what grief is to you, Karen, Explain that definition?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it is a profound emotional rollercoaster when

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Speaker 3: you lose somebody that you dearly love, and that can

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Speaker 3: be a human, it can be an animal. There's even

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Speaker 3: grief involved when we lose our job, you know, so

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Speaker 3: there's different kinds of grief. There's even anticipatory grief. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's that emotional roller coaster we go on

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Speaker 3: longer our normal life because that special someone is no

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Speaker 3: longer a part of it.

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Speaker 2: If you were close with your pet, but you passed

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Speaker 2: on and the pet lives, what kind of grief does

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Speaker 3: Oh, tremendous. They can really feel those deep emotions just

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Speaker 3: like we do. They become depressed, they can stop eating,

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Speaker 3: they lose interest in just about everything. It's it's interesting

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Speaker 3: how in this I don't I think it's really individual.

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Speaker 3: Some animals will show very deep signs of grief while

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Speaker 3: others don't. So I'm not quite sure why that is.

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Speaker 3: It's just unique to that individual.

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Speaker 2: Do these animals that experience grief know that the person

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Speaker 3: Some seem to know exactly what happened, so they'll have

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Speaker 3: a very good understanding that their loved one is no

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Speaker 3: longer there. While others can ask where this person is,

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Speaker 3: they don't understand where they went. So again, it comes

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Speaker 3: down to an individual understanding. Some just seem to be

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Speaker 3: more highly evolved and have a greater understanding, whereas other

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Speaker 2: If you happen to be outside, you're in a park

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Speaker 2: or something, and somebody walks by with their pet. Does

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Speaker 2: that animal know that you have this ability to sense them?

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Speaker 3: Yes, some of them absolutely do, and they will literally

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Speaker 3: like bomb you with information. It's almost like walking into

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Speaker 3: one of those you know, big box warehouse stores with

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Speaker 3: you know, giant big screen TVs, like getting inundated with messages.

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Speaker 2: You're like a human cell phone to them, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever come across an animal that is negative

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Speaker 2: or demonic or evil?

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Speaker 3: I have not. That's more of the human animals. Just

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Speaker 3: being a police officer, I can tell you that I'm

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Speaker 3: far more wary of the human animal than any other

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Speaker 3: type out there. They're the ones that you've really got

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Speaker 3: to watch out for. But no demonic or negative animal

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Speaker 3: energies in my line of work. I've been doing this

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Speaker 3: for twenty six years now, and they've all been good.

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Speaker 3: It's the human species that we have to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. Just witness what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Israel right now, I know, I know. Now. Now

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Speaker 2: here's an interesting question. What are the loving animals there

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Speaker 2: experiencing with all that trauma?

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Speaker 3: Well, it must be terrifying for them because of course

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Speaker 3: they don't understand what's going on, So all that terror

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Speaker 3: and trauma is just compounded because they have no understanding.

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Speaker 3: The world as they know it is falling apart around them,

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Speaker 3: fear from the humans around them. They pick up on

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Speaker 3: all of our emotions, so it must just be utterly

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Speaker 3: devastating for them. It just kind of makes me sick

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Speaker 2: I know it, but it's reality.

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Speaker 3: It is it really is.

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Speaker 2: What are most animals expect from a human be What

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Speaker 3: I think they want us to just appreciate them for

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Speaker 3: who they are and accept them in the package that

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Speaker 3: they come to us in. You know, they really are

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Speaker 3: here for our benefit. They're here to live a better life,

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Speaker 3: a richer life, a fuller life. They're here to keep

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Speaker 3: us present and in the moment, and to pay attention

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Speaker 3: to the day to day life and I think that

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Speaker 3: when we appreciate them for who they are and the

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Speaker 3: little quirkiness and funny moments that they bring us, I

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Speaker 3: think that's really what they want from us. I mean, truly,

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Speaker 3: there's very few animals that ever come through that say, gee,

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Speaker 3: I wish my mom or dad didn't spend so much

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Speaker 3: time with me. You know, that's just something that I

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Speaker 3: would hear from them.

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Speaker 2: When if Pety comes incapacitated, Karen, or it can't function properly,

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Speaker 2: the vet may reckon men that you euthanize the animal

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Speaker 2: as you put it down. And I would guess a

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Speaker 2: lot of animals that have been in families don't die naturally,

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Speaker 2: but they die when you bring them to the vet

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Speaker 2: and they euthanize the animal. What kind of trauma is

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Speaker 2: that for the animal? And do they know what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Well, they don't understand euthanasia per se, but they probably

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Speaker 3: understand that their body is failing them and they look

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Speaker 3: to us as their guardians to help manage them and

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Speaker 3: help them through this time. So they trust us completely.

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Speaker 3: They trust us wholeheartedly, And there's more of a struggle,

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Speaker 3: George when they pass naturally, unless it's of course, you know,

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Speaker 3: sudden and or they go in their sleep. But you know,

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Speaker 3: death is ugly and I've seen it far too much

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Speaker 3: as being in law enforcement. It doesn't happen like it

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Speaker 3: painful and a struggle, and most animals have shared with

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Speaker 3: me that the process of euthanasia is far less stressful

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Speaker 3: and traumatizing than struggling through a natural death.

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Speaker 2: Does a certain breed have abilities to communicate better from

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Speaker 3: No, there isn't a certain breed. It's not like you know,

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Speaker 3: the dolphins are the smartest, or chimpanzees. In every type

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Speaker 3: going to be very intelligent animals that communicate very well,

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Speaker 3: and there's going to be some that don't. Just like

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Speaker 3: in humans, you take you know, ten people and try

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Speaker 3: going to be a couple that are really easy to

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Speaker 3: will fall some we're in the middle. It's the same

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Speaker 3: with different types of animal species, Karen.

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Speaker 2: If you can get fifteen or twenty years out of

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Speaker 2: your pet, that's a pretty good long life. Why can't

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Speaker 2: they live longer?

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Speaker 3: Though I don't know. I haven't figgured that one out yet, George,

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Speaker 3: But when I do, I promise you'll be the first

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Speaker 2: I've always wondered about that, haven't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're here far too short, and I don't understand

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Speaker 3: because some of them live very early in their lives,

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Speaker 3: so I don't know. I've had a horse that lived

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Speaker 2: That's old for a horse, I know.

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Speaker 3: And then other animals that pass when they're just a

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Speaker 3: puppy or a kitten. So maybe someday, when you and

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Speaker 3: we'll realize that that part of it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 3: the length of time that we're here. Maybe it's just

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Speaker 3: the quality of the time that we were here and

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Speaker 3: the purpose that we were here for that truly matters.

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Speaker 2: How often does the pet that has passed on come

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Speaker 3: Reincarnation happens. It doesn't happen all the time. Some animals

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Speaker 3: come back a lot, like a couple different times during

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Speaker 3: our lifetime and others just once and it really just

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Speaker 3: depends on the sole path of that particular animal and

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Speaker 3: also your path, because think about how many times we

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Speaker 3: change our minds about things. We move, we change jobs,

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Speaker 3: we come in and out of relationships. Some people have allergies,

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Speaker 3: so there's all kind of things that can happen that

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Speaker 2: Okay, now you talked about earlier the kind of signs

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Speaker 2: that pets send to us. You mentioned dreams in different

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Speaker 2: sounds and things, but you mentioned feathers. You said something

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Speaker 2: about feathers. What is that It seems to be.

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Speaker 3: A really common way that our departed companions will let

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Speaker 3: to their loved one because these feathers will show up

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Speaker 2: Karen Anderson with us. We're going to take calls next

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Speaker 2: or maybe have not passed on, to see how you

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Speaker 2: can communicate. Are some people more tuned in to their

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think that we all have a

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Speaker 3: us work really hard at it, and others maybe they

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Speaker 3: But I also think it runs in families. If you

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Speaker 2: How often does the individual a grieve when their pet

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Speaker 3: Can you say that again? I didn't quite touch that.

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Speaker 2: How how often does the person grieve when their pet

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Speaker 3: Well, I think constantly. I know for me anyway, it's

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Speaker 3: I think we just suddenly get to a point where

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Speaker 3: going to be now without this special someone, and I

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Speaker 3: think we just adjust, and it's a matter of adjusting.

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Speaker 3: I think, are I think we change completely after a loss,

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Speaker 2: And I would guess that the animal that has passed

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Speaker 3: It Absolutely not? In fact, George, many of them, many

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Speaker 3: of the animals will ask me, you know, why is

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Speaker 3: I used to make them so happy and make them smile,

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Speaker 2: I've been seeing some television commercials lately for animal shelters,

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Speaker 2: and they're very effective because they'll have like the pet

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Speaker 2: never comes and stuff like that. That's got to be

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Speaker 3: You know, they share so many of our emotions, but

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Speaker 2: They are sad. They are sad indeed, and does the

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Speaker 3: You know your intentions with in your heart and how

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Speaker 3: you feel about your animal companions. That is the number

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Speaker 3: one motivator and the most powerful force that connects you

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Speaker 3: to your companion. That's why once they pass on, once

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Speaker 3: they are out of their physical body, they will always

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Speaker 3: it continues into the next dimension.

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