1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Don't every day up? Wait, click your ass up. The 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club finished for y'all. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Done. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: Yep to the world, no dangerous morning to show to 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: Breakfast Club? Shallamaine the god j just hilarious DJ Envy 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 3: Envy had to run but Laura le Ross and right 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: now we got a man. 8 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: I want to say young legend, but you just know 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: legend at this point. You know what I'm saying. You 10 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 11 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: Listen, anybody that delivered nods his first Grammy, I got 12 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 3: a salute. 13 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Hit Boy is here. 14 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Respect morning. Appreciate y'all having me. I've been waiting to 15 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: get on here for some years. 16 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: Man, happy to have you. Man, how you feeling this 17 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: more solid? 18 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: Man? I feel better than ever for real? Just run 19 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: around New York? You know what I mean. We was 20 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: out late last night, so I'm dragon a little bit, 21 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: but I'm good though. Man's just I'm blessed one time 22 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: profession week. I'm just here man, moving around. 23 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, when did hit Boy feel like he arrived? I mean, 24 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: you produced for everybody from jay Z to be honestly 25 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: to NAS. When you look back, was it a beat? 26 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: Was the moment that made you feel like, Yeah, I'm 27 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: here to stay in this game. 28 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, man, because I you know, I was 29 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: in a in a situation. I was in a deal 30 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: for like eighteen years with UNPG Universal Music Publishing Group, 31 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: and I was just talking about how I kind of 32 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: never felt like I all the way made it because 33 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: you know it's funny, bro, you don't even notice you 34 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: tweeted something a long time ago that triggered something in 35 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: my brain. Bro, somebody says something and you tweeted like 36 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: this is probably twenty eleven something. You was like, hit 37 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: boy got that other worldly money because I guess I 38 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: did niggas in Piris. I did that the joints, and 39 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: I was like, hold up, I'm supposed to have other 40 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: worldly money. This is jay z first common record, you 41 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I'm like, yo, So that's 42 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: what I didn't even know. I was in a bad 43 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: deal till I made Niggas in Peris. You. I mean, 44 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: I did drop the World with my boy chasing cash 45 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: for Lil Wayne and Eminem. I did other joints, but 46 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: that was the first hit that was like, Okay, where 47 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: the real money at now, you know what I mean. 48 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: I was able to get some bread. I went and 49 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: did a record deal and the label deal with Jimmy. 50 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: I v that interscope, but my publishing money wasn't what 51 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: it should have been. I couldn't go get that crazy advanced. 52 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: So you triggered something in me. I'm like, man, I'm 53 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: supposed to be touching. 54 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Who do you have. 55 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: That conversation with because a lot of times, man, especially 56 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: when when you're black, you don't like to tell people 57 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: you don't know something. 58 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who had you know? It's crazy though, because 59 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: that's bro Jimmy Iveen. I went to his crib when 60 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: I was about to sign my deal, just chopping. They 61 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: were eating food, you know, just connecting, and I'm just 62 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: telling him like, bro, I don't know nothing about none 63 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: of this shit. And he was like, you know, that's 64 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: actually the smartest thing you ever said, because everything I 65 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: do you can learn, but what you do I can't learn. 66 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: That. 67 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: You just got that in you so that you know, 68 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: that was just like a little moment where I mean 69 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: but I mean, bro, it's just been it's been a journey. 70 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: It's been a hell of a journey. And I got 71 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: out my deal just this past July, two months ago, 72 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: so I felt like I made it when I got 73 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: out my deal, you know what I mean? 74 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: It was Jimmy Iveen who got you on the right track. Man, 75 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: Well that's just handed you a piece of paper saying, oh, 76 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: just sign this. 77 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well that's kind of what happened. He 78 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: handed me the papers, He gave me a couple of m's. 79 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm like twenty four years old. I wanted did the 80 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: most nigga shit I could do, got a crib and 81 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: moved all my homies in and just like turned up 82 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: and you know I was able to make some hits. Yeah, 83 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, but basically, uh, jay Z was the one 84 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: who got me out my deal. Jay Z and Desiree Perez, 85 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: they stepped in. I was being managed by them like 86 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and at that point I was in 87 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: my deal for fourteen years and I was like, yo, 88 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: I need to get out this deal, and they was like, well, 89 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: the best we could do is you know, you can 90 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: go from here to twenty twenty five, and you know, 91 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: July twenty twenty five hit you'll be out your deal. 92 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: And I just did them last four years. So I 93 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: was in my deal for eighteen years. 94 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: July first, twenty twenty five. What did you wake up 95 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: feeling like. 96 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: A new man? A new man? I'm just like, man, 97 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: the pressure that dark cloud is just gone now. Like 98 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: it was like I didn't realize I was depressed. Like 99 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: I've been doing therapy, you know what I mean. I 100 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: realized a lot like a shout out Melissa Doumaan as 101 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: my therapist, Like she made me realize I never had 102 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: boundaries and that made me go back to like, oh 103 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: that's why I was like just basically handed people around 104 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: me the same life lifestyle. You know, I'm taking twenty 105 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: thirty people out to dinner, I'm doing all this all 106 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: the young niggashit periods, so just you know, basically just 107 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: to be in this place now. I'm just feeling refreshed. 108 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Man, How are you now with that? Though? 109 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: Right? Good? I'm good. Circle small, it's like a dot, 110 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: it's not a circle no more. It's like it's just 111 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: small now, you know, so just more condensed than you know. 112 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: I got the right people around me that I don't 113 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: really care about me versus just letting anybody hang. 114 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: What did jay Z and Dads do exactly to get 115 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: you out of your situation? Everybody likes to blame Rock 116 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: Nation for the bad shit. 117 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Right right right? Nah? I mean bruh that they did 118 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: what they did. I don't know. They bossed up and 119 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: went in there and figured it out. You know, they 120 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: got me a nice little advanced twenty twenty one. It 121 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, you can get this advance, 122 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: but you still got to do four more years. And 123 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: I just took it on the chain and just stugged 124 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: it out, you know what I mean. 125 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: So now you can do a new publisher deal. 126 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: Now I could do whatever I want to do free man. 127 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: For the first time, I signed my deal one year 128 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: out of high school. I was nineteen years old, you 129 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I was in that deal. 130 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm thirty eight now, you know what I mean. It's 131 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: been some time, so I'm just I feel refreshed. I 132 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: feel like I just started though, you know what. 133 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: I mean, done so much, Like yeah, like, what's the 134 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: offers like on the table? Because they're not heard about? 135 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: You getting offers is nice to be a better I mean, 136 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say all that, you know what I mean. 137 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: We are we are we are working our way up 138 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: to that because I'm you know, I'm expanded. Rogers bought 139 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: a horse shout my boy DJ from Blue Bucks playing 140 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: crazy group from the West Coast. But my boy just 141 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: started messing with the horses and he like he put 142 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: me on like you know, gaming me up about how 143 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: to get money with that, and it's like it's a 144 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: whole different world. 145 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Agriculture yeah, racehorse, Yeah, racehorses. 146 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: It's like it's like you buy DNA, you know what 147 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: i mean. We basically like trying to find Michael Jordan mom, 148 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like they can't you 149 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: know what i mean, all they kids didn't want races 150 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: if like you know, if their kids or their dad 151 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: won races. It's just, you know, the value goes up. 152 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: So learning that type of stuff and you know, expanding 153 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: on into film. I'm doing some stuff with Alchemists, the 154 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: homie Alchemist producer. You know, were going back and forth 155 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: just wrapping on each other beats and got a couple 156 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 2: other people in the mix, and we did a movie 157 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: to go with the uh with the album too. So 158 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: I'm hype on. 159 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: That because you and out rapping. 160 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: Okay, how do you balance being seen as one of 161 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: one of the greatest producers with still being hungry? 162 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: And I guess chasing the next sound maybe. 163 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not that I'm chasing, It's just that's 164 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: just that's how I keep myself entertained. Man Like. Producing 165 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: is always just been fun for me. It's just been 166 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: like a replacement for video games because I started when 167 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: I was like fifteen sixteen, and I stopped playing video 168 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: games to start making beats. And I'm glad, I did, 169 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 170 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, you. 171 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 5: Still look so young, you talking like that's you're still 172 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: young thirty eight? 173 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt twenty five. 174 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: For sure, right, and then hearing you say right, you 175 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: feel like you're about to just start all over. 176 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so with more knowledge, just way smarter, way flyer, 177 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: way richer, you know. 178 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 5: So. But the way you make it sound is like 179 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: you haven't enjoyed any of it at all. 180 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: No I have. I have. I have been you know, 181 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: I've had some good times. But you know, I just 182 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: I've just been chasing like something within myself, like just 183 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: trying to push myself to be like great, like you 184 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I look up to the greats, 185 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I look up to the 186 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: to the jay Z's, to the Ya's, to nas is, 187 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: like you know, and it's like it's more to get 188 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: you know, when. 189 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: You talk about going to see a therapist. Was it 190 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: just a bad publishing deal that had you? 191 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: Nah? Nah nah, I've been dealing with you know. It 192 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: made me realize a lot just a boy my childhood. 193 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: You know, my pops had got out of prison a 194 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. People kind of saw the splash. 195 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: But I've been dealing with that, you know, since I 196 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: was three years old. That's something that you know, my 197 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: mom and my grandma, they did a great job like 198 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: raising me, you know, making me a respectable young man 199 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: and all that. But you know, I just still felt 200 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: some type of void with my dad. And you know, 201 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: every time we get out, we start to make some stride, 202 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: we start to move, and then it's like boom, he 203 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: back in there. He's doing another three years right now. 204 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: Dang yeah, crazy man. 205 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: Did you feel like you wanted to be in hip 206 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: hop because he always had that dream I wanted to be. 207 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: A Nah nah No. I just I just love music period, 208 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: you know, because my uncle was in a group called 209 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: Troop back in the day. My grandma I was just 210 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: talking about. 211 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Just talking about you. 212 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: So my grandma is the one who started there when 213 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: my my uncle was like thirteen, like he found some 214 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: kids from his high school and then she was the 215 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: one who whipped them in his shape to where they 216 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: got a record deal. I had a couple number ones 217 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: and all that. But you know, I got to see 218 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: early in my life. I got to see a lot 219 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: because I lived with him when he was at his height. 220 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: Me and my mom. I'm like two, three, four years old. 221 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm hearing all this like R and B, I'm hearing 222 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: soul for I'm hearing NWA against the West Coast music, 223 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: and living pretty nice up until I was like five, 224 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: and then you know, my dad was dealing with my 225 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: dad being in prison. But living with my uncle, I 226 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: got to see a high level lifestyle. But then I 227 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: also seen how it started to be new R and 228 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: B groups and it sound switched and Troop wasn't what 229 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: it once was. And it was like we went from 230 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: living in nice condos to now we living in a 231 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: one bedroom altogether, you know what I mean in Pasadena. Yeah, 232 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: so I got to see highs and lows. Man. That's 233 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: why I keep it just humble, I keep it cool. 234 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Right. 235 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: I was gonna ask, how how has that shaped you? 236 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: Because you lived that pretty early. 237 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah. Man, just visiting prisons and then 238 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: going back to my uncle condo where you got an 239 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: elevator in the spot in a pool, like it was 240 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: just like I'm being tugged in a bunch of different 241 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: you know ways. But it just kind of kept me 242 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: balanced at all times. Like I come from a super humble, 243 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: cool family too, so you know, I'm always just pushing man, 244 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: pushing it. 245 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: I was just talking about Troop last week, and so 246 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: I forgot somebody sampled with. All I do is think 247 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: to you a couple of people and played the last Friday, 248 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: and they was like, that's B five. I'm like, fine, 249 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: but then it's really. 250 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Troops just they stronghold, they went crazy on their version. 251 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: Now you got Grammy wings, you got plaks, you got accolades. 252 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: What do you feel still hasn't been said about your 253 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: legacy yet? 254 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: On what hasn't been said? I mean I can't really, 255 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: I don't really know. I'm just I'm just living it, 256 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like me, i feel like 257 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: I'm the most I'm the least like technical producer. 258 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: Ever. 259 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: Everything has just been coming flowing through me. It's coming 260 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: from the soul. Like that's why I just I don't 261 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: feel like people could pinpoint my sound. I can go 262 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: from Beyonce to Knaves, or go from Nas to Beaver, 263 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: or to Beaver to Drake or whatever. It's like, I 264 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: just make music. I don't got one thing that I 265 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: specifically do. So I feel like people still haven't even 266 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: like I got family members that don't even know like them, 267 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: you did trophies for Drake, or you did right here 268 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: for Beeber and Drake or you you know, It's like 269 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: people still don't even know what I've done yet for real. 270 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: It's something. It's some people that still think Kanye originated 271 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: the niggas in Paris beat, you know what I mean, 272 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: Like there are still. 273 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: People that told you I literally thought that. 274 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I'm saying, there's still people that don't 275 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: even know I was associated with niggas in Paris, So 276 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: I still got you know, my story is yet to 277 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: be fully told. 278 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: Break the association down with you in the song for 279 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: people who don't know. 280 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I produced the song, made the beat, you know, 281 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: I just uh yeah, I worked on that and I 282 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: worked on a lift off from Washington Throne too, but 283 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: we had did a bunch of other songs. I was 284 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: out here in New York. We just had soho you know, 285 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: it was in the Mercer Hotel, just doing songs, and 286 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm hype on all these other joints that we was 287 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: working on. I like hearing jay Z vocals and Yay 288 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: vocals on my beats. I was losing my mind, you 289 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But none of them songs seen 290 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: a lot of day. They just so happened to go 291 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: to Paris, and I guess they was lit. Yay went 292 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: through his emails and hurt that beat. It just they 293 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: was turning up and it went crazy. 294 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: You you know, you started a trend, right well, I 295 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: wanted it to be a trend, right like when you 296 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: and Nas got together and started creating all of those 297 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: dope projects. 298 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I want to see happen. 299 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I want all of these legendary mcs to get with 300 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: younger producers who probably grew up on they sound and 301 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: understand they sound and know what they need. 302 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you think that didn't become more of 303 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: a thing. 304 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think it did kind of, 305 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I feel like we inspired 306 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: a couple movements that's happening, you know what I mean. 307 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: But I just the game is just different now. Man. 308 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, people don't care as much 309 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: about producers, you know what I mean, even just like that. 310 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's like me doing my own music and 311 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: wanted to like push my stuff forward. It's a lot 312 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: that's like that goes into that. Like I just had 313 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: a song drop last Friday right with Tia Karin and 314 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: Jig that I produced. Made the whole beat by myself 315 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: be crazy as hell energy, And I didn't know the 316 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: song was dropping until I looked on Twitter. But my lawyer, 317 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: my manager was reaching out to the label, like, Yo, 318 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: we're supposed to get primary credit on this, We're supposed 319 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: to get our payment taking care of mind you the 320 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: song came out, I still ain't even been paid for them, 321 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You know it just came out, 322 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: But still it's like I just that part of the game. 323 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: I feel like producers are the most disrespected, like period, 324 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like we like I might 325 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: do a song for somebody, they can go take it 326 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: on a whole tour. I ain't even got my fee yet. 327 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: I ain't even got an upfront, just measily why they 328 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: get compared to what y'all out there making. But I'm 329 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: trying to break down that. I'm trying to like get 330 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: more respect put on producers' names. And I know we 331 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: got people that's pushing in Metro, having successful albums. Just 332 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people that's doing they thing. Mustard going 333 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: crazy being on the super Bowl Like that's good looks, 334 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: It's like, but I feel like it's still a lot 335 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: of respect that we don't get put on our name. 336 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: That's crazy to say that because I come from the 337 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: era where all the producers did you know what I mean, 338 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: the Swiss Beads, the Temples, the premiere, Like you knew 339 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: all of them. 340 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: And they was getting chilly, it was getting preived back. 341 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Have the name drops in the song, Yeah, yeah, you 342 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: just knew it with them. It was in the music videos. 343 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: They were everywhere. 344 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean, shit, I'm on that same way now I'm 345 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: about to push my movement forward. Man, this a movie 346 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: with Alchemists and uh, just all the other stuff I'm doing. 347 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: It's just I feel like people gonna look at me 348 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: in a whole new light. 349 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Why nots? What was it about? 350 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: No? Man? He just wanted to work, you know what 351 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, these niggas be on bullshit, Like I'd be 352 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: like I link with people all playing beats. You know, 353 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: they'll take beats or they'll come record stuff and then 354 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: never use it. Nas just kept coming through and kept 355 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: using the music I was providing. And it was that simple. 356 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: Like I just kind of was like, if he gonna 357 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: dedicate his energy, this is NAS. You know, he don't 358 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: even have to be doing this ship like he already solidified. 359 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: But it gave me a chance to like really just learn. 360 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: Like it's like being in the gym bro. We was 361 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: just put we put it. We dropped eighty songs in 362 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: three years, you know, I mean six albums, So it's 363 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: like that was a lot of a lot of practice, 364 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: you know, and just, uh shit, we made it happen. 365 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: We want to gram me what what did y'all unlocked 366 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: in each other creatively that the industry probably didn't even 367 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: see coming. 368 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: I think, just empowering each other. Man, Like, you know, 369 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: he was open to the ideas I was bringing him, Like, 370 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: you know, I had certain like hooks, like I had 371 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: the Don Tolliver hook already. You know, I had like this, 372 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: uh Anderson pact hook that he used on the first album. 373 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: That's just like he was just opening my ideas and 374 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm a shooter, man. Everybody that 375 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: pull up, I try to get these ideas off and 376 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: most people don't understand it. But he understood what I 377 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: was on, and you know, we just felt the vibe. 378 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: How much you're sitting off from them? Watch the Thrown sessions. 379 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: How much I'm sitting on what just extra music? I 380 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: mean through I was so long ago. Man, It's like 381 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: I got stuff that just that's just sitting. But I 382 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: don't really got nothing with their vocals. Okay, you know 383 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: what I mean. I might have beat ideas and stuff 384 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: I was working on at that time, but yeah, no, 385 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: they you know, they ain't letting the music out like that. 386 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: Who was the best person you worked with? He was saying, well, 387 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: what was the best experience with experience? 388 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Man, it's been a lot of good ones. I mean, 389 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: I guess I would say working on Beyonce album in 390 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, the Beyonce album, that job. I did a 391 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff on there. She like, she, you know, 392 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: let me have that opportunity. And we went to the 393 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: Hamptons and we worked and I was just like that 394 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: was ill. No, that was that was a Beyonce album. 395 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: They don't want the pink. 396 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 5: Oh okay, I see you this, sorry, but nah, just 397 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: being out there seeing that level of lifestyle and just 398 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: like how she creates a community with the creators that 399 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: she brings around, like making everybody have dinner together and 400 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: you know, tell each other about themselves and just like 401 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: really you know, getting to know the people that's around her, 402 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 5: Like that was ill. 403 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 404 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: What's your relationship with Kanye today? 405 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't really got one, you know what I mean? 406 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: But I mean I love that dude. Man, he funny 407 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: is a motherfucker than me. Bro, Like everything he say, 408 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: everything he do will be hilarious. And he I mean 409 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: he ad genius obviously, you know he got crazy vision 410 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: and uh, if he ever you know what I mean. 411 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: If we tap in, we tap in. But it's all love. 412 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: Is it a collaborative thing when you're in there with 413 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: him is more of a. 414 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: Non its it's everything, Bro, I'm bringing them. I was 415 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: bringing them beats, were sitting down making stuff together. We 416 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: was you know what I mean. He was having me 417 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: flip songs that he had, like putting my take on 418 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: it's it's everything. 419 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't I didn't realize you come from 420 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: such a musically inclined family. Like I knew your dad, 421 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: but then I know I didn't know your uncle. Yeah, yeah, 422 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you fell in love 423 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: with music? 424 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Fell in love? I mean I remember one specific time. 425 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: I must have been four years old, maybe five, and 426 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: uh we was riding. My uncle had this green Mustang. 427 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: It was ill, like, you know, green rims and all that, 428 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: and he had the top down and he was playing 429 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: NWA music and I just remember like hearing all these 430 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: cuss words. I'm a little kid, but I was like, 431 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: but it just sounded so ill like I was just 432 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: like I was a mesmerized by like you know what 433 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: I was hearing. 434 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you. 435 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: Have to do for an artist from the West Coast, 436 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: like an old gie artist from West Coast, or maybe 437 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: not even oldieutist in the West Coast, but you have. 438 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: To do for them what you did for nas. 439 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean that's got to be a dream though, right, Yeah. 440 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: I mean I did like five six songs on Snoop 441 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: Dogg back on Death Row, and you know, I worked 442 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: with Snoop. I work with Game, I worked with a 443 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: bunch of different I did a bunch of bunch of 444 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: stuff on what was the album that he dropped because 445 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: I worked on Easy with a Kanye Game, So whatever 446 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: album that was on, Uh dramatic, Yeah, the bunch of 447 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: shit on there. Yeah, but uh, hey man, whoever want 448 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: to lock in? And it makes sense Like the Nash 449 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: it was just it was just a genuine moment, like 450 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't like we chasing some industry thing 451 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: or it's like, bro, I need you to putt He 452 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: wasn't putting no pressure on me. I was putting the 453 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: pressure on myself more so to be like, let me 454 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: deliver for nas, you know what I mean. And that's 455 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: what pushed us to make so much music. Lights is hidden. 456 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: Are you like nervous at some point working with because 457 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: he is a great and you know he's very particular. 458 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he kind of he laid back and 459 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: humble and chill like me. So it's like it was 460 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: it was pretty easy, you know what I mean. It 461 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: was It was never no ego. That's why we was 462 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: able to do so much stuff. And I feel like 463 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: that's half of the thing. Like with rappers, especially like Ego. 464 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: You know, you see a lot of people that had 465 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: hits with big producers and then they start working with 466 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: them and then they don't make no more hits like that, 467 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: and it's like, Nigga, why didn't you just keep working 468 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: with this producer? 469 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 4: That's right, you know, for a producer like you who 470 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: can do so many different people from different places. How 471 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: do you feel about the regional identity conversation that Metro 472 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 4: was having, Like like we artists need to have a 473 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: certain sound from you. 474 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in this day and age, just just 475 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: kind of all mixed in, especially with social media. It's 476 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: like everybody see how everybody dress, everybody see how everybody 477 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: talk from different places, and it's like everything is just 478 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: being put into this melting pot. So I don't know, 479 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: you know, but it's like, I mean, you got your mustards, 480 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: you got me, you know, but I mean I kind 481 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: of do different sounds and shit, but you got you 482 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: got people that's locked in on what they do. And uh. 483 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: But I feel like it's a new day. It's a 484 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: time to experiment and exploring and take advantage of that 485 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: melting pot and just like pull from different places, like 486 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: I've been working with a lot of deeper troit artist 487 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: Shout Baby Trying. You know, I didn't work with T 488 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: Grizzly Rio, the young o gps, like all the hood niggas, 489 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like I'm pulling from 490 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: that and then I'm bringing him into my world and 491 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: just kind of messing it together. 492 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: So if the lyrics that influenced the production, or production 493 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 3: that influenced the lyric. 494 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: It's all one thing. It's all one thing. I feel 495 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: like people want to hear if you hear that right 496 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: beat as an artist, you know, like it's like it 497 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: just comes to you. You ain't got to overthink it. 498 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 5: I feel like, if it works, it works every every producer, can't, 499 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: you know, dipping dab and every genre of music or 500 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 5: have because none of your none of your stuff sound 501 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: the same. 502 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: That is creative. 503 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: That's dope, right. 504 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 5: But going to so you were saying metro Booming said 505 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 5: that you're supposed to or not you're supposed to, but 506 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: producers that one particular sound. 507 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's basically saying that, like, because of social media, 508 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 4: everything's mixed in and it's and it's we're kind of 509 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: losing the feeling of like Atlanta sounded like Atlanta, New 510 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: York having a sound like that type of thing. 511 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if it worked, it worked. You're one 512 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: of the examples of it working. 513 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 514 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: I love I love Metro Lives project that futuristic some yeah. 515 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: Man, take me through that man. I went to the 516 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: most Hood club in La last week. I just be 517 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: moving around. They was playing that and the way they 518 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: was turning up. I put that on my playlist, like 519 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: that'sh it hard. 520 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: I just like it because of the nostalgia that he provided. 521 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: They really do sound like like a future thirteen twenty fifteen. Yeah, 522 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: but but it sounds like naw I see what he 523 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: did they didn't and the Walker Flocker records on there super. 524 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: Slept on it or who do you want to work with? Now? 525 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 5: Like who do you because you work with a lot 526 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 5: of artists that are people's dream artists to work with. 527 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: Who I want to do an album with Kodak black Man? 528 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: But I think that shit be soulful fly like he 529 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: really be rapping, he really be saying ship. 530 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: You know. 531 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: I haven't got to really connect with him, but a 532 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: rock with dude, for sure. 533 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: I always say Kodak is like I would say Kendrick's 534 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: evil twin with Kendrick. 535 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Evil a twin a while. Du you you you haven't 536 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: reached out to him with nothing Kodak. 537 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: I have. He he rapped on the song I did 538 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: on Big Sean last album, but I ain't connected with 539 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: them on some like you know, let's really tap in, 540 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: but you know I want to do that for so. 541 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 3: You ever people feel like you ever feel like people 542 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: don't give your flowers because you're not like a loud 543 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: personality in the industry. 544 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean it could be that, but man, I'm over 545 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: that whole conversation. I'm over I'm over listing rankings and 546 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: flowers and all that shit. Bro, I'm just making the fly. 547 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: I know I'm better than I ever been, and that's 548 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: where my that's where the bars at for me. Like, Okay, 549 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: if I could just keep getting better off, like I 550 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: know that I can like create more headspace in my 551 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: beats now. My eight oays literally blew out the fucking 552 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: sprinting speakers last night, like my oas is hidden so crazy, 553 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: but not in a disruptive way, in a way where 554 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: that shit has punched you in the chest and It's 555 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: like I'm excited to just dig into that more, you 556 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: know what I mean, just creating the sonics. That's just 557 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: like I know I've advanced personally. 558 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: You know what's the I guess most trash beat you've 559 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: ever made. 560 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say trash, but I would say look, I 561 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: would say, bro. I didn't know niggas in Paris was 562 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: about to be what it was about to be. I 563 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: really didn't. Man. I had my homeboy, Chili Chill I 564 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: used to be rapping with, and you know, just working with. 565 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: He was about to put that song out, that beat 566 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: out on a mixtape of his, like literally a few 567 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: days before. I got the email from don Cee. Don 568 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: See was like, y'all, I need you to send me 569 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: the files to this beat and I was like, damn, 570 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: O the hommie was just about to drop something on 571 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: this Let me let me see. Then I got an 572 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: email from Yan and he was like, bro, me and 573 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: Jay was in Paris. We made this song. He was like, 574 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: when this song dropped, your life about to change. So 575 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: but I didn't even bro. I still didn't know until 576 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: I really heard the song and got around. I went 577 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: to the planetarium where they did the listening party and 578 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: Cali was there and a bunch of people was there, 579 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: and the way they reacted when Niggas in Paris came 580 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: on now was when I first understood what it really was, 581 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: you know, so, but I didn't know. I didn't know 582 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: that she was about to be that big. 583 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: I know a program director who went to a washing 584 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: Throne listening party and I was like, how was that album? 585 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: And it was like, it's dope, but it ain't no 586 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: radio hits on there. And then I remember, I remember 587 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: when Niggas passed. I'm like, did you go to the bathroom? 588 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: That's funny, man. 589 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 5: Also, this ain't no question Click as well. Click is 590 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 5: one of my favorite songs. 591 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: How was that? 592 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, man, just again just getting back into I was, 593 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: you know, signing good music at the time. So I 594 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: was just working on everything I could for Ya and 595 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: with Ya and his artists, and I think it was 596 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: in London we started working on that song and the 597 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: original beat was actually a beat I had gave Dom 598 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: Kennedy and uh he actually put it out. It was 599 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: a song called CDC and they did the original demo 600 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: to that beat and I ended up having to tell Ya, like, man, 601 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: my boy dom. Kennedy just dropped the song on his beat, 602 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: so we just flipped it, took some of the sounds out, 603 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 2: adding more sounds, and just turned it up, made it 604 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 2: what it was. 605 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 5: Look the vocals in the beginning, right, who is that? 606 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: That's James foonn Leroy legend man know that sound? Yeah? 607 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: You know you know James Joint on the anti a 608 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: Rihanna album that's about that's named after James. 609 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 5: Okay, so he made those vocals specifically for Click. 610 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah he did, yeah, yeah, yeah he yeah took that 611 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: Joint like Yay, just gave him a bunch of stuff 612 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: and that was something he did over that. 613 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you said he was signing good music. 614 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah I was. Yeah, that was the time too. I 615 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: had to sacrifice because I was already signed to Paul 616 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: on the Don and his managers was managing me, so 617 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: I was giving him twenty percent. Then when I got 618 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 2: around Yay, him and his team was like, well, we 619 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: want to manage you, and I was like this, you know, young, humble, 620 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: loyal guy. So I'm like I stuck it out with 621 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: my other team. But I also did a thing where 622 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: I was getting given twenty percent to Good music. So 623 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: I made a sacrifice to get that brand energy just 624 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: to be around and just like you know, I got 625 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: niggas and pairs out of it. Click, I got a 626 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff out of it. But I sacrificed. I 627 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: was giving up like forty percent of my money at 628 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: that time. 629 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Why you wasn't making no money? 630 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 631 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean, man, you know, shout out to no Id 632 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: like he always called it brand energy. It's like me 633 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: being associated with a lot of good came from that too. 634 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: I sacrificed, but you know, it also landed me in 635 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: this place where, you know, if I want to go 636 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: sell my catalog, if I want to you know, move 637 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: my music around, I can. I can do that and 638 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: I can make some real money. Now. 639 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know the polo the dumb situation even. 640 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was signed a polo on Universal since I 641 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: was nineteen years old and I just got out in July. 642 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: So would you produce with polo. 643 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: Like I was? I mean I was h I produced 644 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: like certain little stuff with him during those days when 645 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: he was you know, in his heyday. But I was 646 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: more so just signing him as a producer, and his 647 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: managers was managing me, so they was they had a 648 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: whole situation going, but they. 649 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: Couldn't just release you, like once you realized it was 650 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: a baddy. 651 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: I'm sure they could have, but they didn't want to, 652 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they like, shit, no, we 653 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: got him early and were about to extract as much 654 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: as we can. And you know, how. 655 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: Does that make you feel? Like? 656 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: Does that does that something you take personal? Or you're 657 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: just like, you know what, that's business. That's what I signed. 658 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: I mean at this point. Yeah, but I mean, bro, 659 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: I was I've been depressed for years many I've been 660 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: depressed going to lawyers and they're like, Yo, this is 661 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: the worst deal I've ever seen, you know what I 662 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: mean stuff like that, and they're like, well, they don't 663 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: want to let you out the deal or they don't 664 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: want to give you an amendment or whatever the case is. 665 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: And it's like that was you know. I was like 666 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: chasing like maybe if I make a bigger song than 667 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: Niggas in Paris, that I can get out this deal, 668 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: you know, And it's like I probably fucked up certain 669 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: relationships like that, like just trying to put pressure on 670 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: different artists and trying to like just just do too much. 671 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: I guess you know what I mean. But it never 672 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: was about that. I was just in that contract. That's 673 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: just what it was. That's why I'm just happy at 674 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: hell to be out now man. 675 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: And all that. 676 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah he did, damn yeah he did for sure. 677 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Great business, great for sure. 678 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 2: I mean I did too, though, you know, it is 679 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: what it is. I just talked to Polo last like, man, 680 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: solid dude, got love for him. He gave me opportunity. 681 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: I've made a lot happen with that opportunity, and I'm 682 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: just taking that knowledge down to the to the next phase. 683 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm starting this foundation. I just started 684 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: a foundation called the Next Hits. So it's like the 685 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: next Hit Boys or the next Hit Songs, however you 686 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: want to look at it. Just you know, helping underserve 687 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: communities and kids. That's like got dads that's locked up 688 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: like my dad was locked up and teaching them about 689 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: the business, the business side, the engineering, recording, producing, whatever 690 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: they want to do. 691 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: Up. 692 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: His name is always coming up and I didn't know 693 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: he was. He signed h came Brown, No, No, he 694 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: got it here man, he'd be out here for sure. 695 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: So when did you get out the good music situation? 696 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: All of this this happened. 697 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was. I was only in a 698 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: good music situation for like two years, for like two years, 699 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: and just you know, ran through that. But I mean 700 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: even with my deal, like Yay wanted to be involved 701 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: in that. And I went to Jimmy iving you know, 702 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: he went to Jimmy Iveen too, and it was basically like, well, 703 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy told him like this is up to hit Boy, 704 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: And Jimmy came to me like, well, do you want 705 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: to be your own man? Do you really want to 706 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: learn the game or do you want to keep being 707 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: up under somebody else? So I just like kind of 708 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: I lost that brand energy, but I just got to 709 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: really get on that road to learning about you know, 710 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: running a labels. You know how the money is being 711 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: spent marketing and all this shit. Like I understand it 712 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: a lot better now, so you know, I just you know, 713 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: I had to. I just been pushing for these last 714 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, however many years. 715 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 5: So you got you're dropping a solo album. You got 716 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 5: you got some projects coming out out on this in October, 717 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 5: but you're dropping a solo album in November. 718 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: Software update, software updates. Just like That's where I'm at period. 719 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: Just update myself, like the therapy aspect, like you know, 720 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: being a better dad, being a better you know what 721 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: I mean, just dressing better, whatever the case is. Just 722 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: update my software, you know, I mean, getting smarter, educating 723 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: myself more, whatever it is. 724 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: How do you protect your mental health? And the industry 725 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: that's all about constant output. They always want something from you. 726 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I lived my real life. Man. I 727 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: had got off of social media for like the whole 728 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five since like January. I just got back 729 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: on in July, and man, it made me realize a lot, 730 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: like I'm actually living an incredible life, you know what 731 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: I mean. You might look at somebody else and be like, 732 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: oh man, this person got a bigger mansion. This person 733 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: got a you know, a bigger fleet of cars, Like 734 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: none of that shit matter, you know what I mean. 735 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: If I look around like I got my son, I'm 736 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: a real dad. I got my son full time. Like 737 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: if you if this was in LA, he'll probably be 738 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: sitting right here with us, you know what I mean, 739 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: He's everywhere when I got him. So yeah, man, life 740 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: is a life is amazing. 741 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: Right now, say understand boundaries? Yeah, what did that look 742 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: like what did that looks like. 743 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: Being taken advantage of? You know what I mean, just 744 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: anybody who needed something at any time, you know, even 745 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: if they deserve it. I just was open arms, just 746 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: giving to people and like even family whatever, you know, 747 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: just learning how to say no, learning how to just 748 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: understand that I'm not the worst person in the world 749 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: if I do say no. You know what I mean, 750 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: it is what it is like. You know, I'm out 751 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: here hustling, I'm out here doing what I gotta do. 752 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm pushing around. I'm in New York doing interview at 753 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: the interview and just like session after session, like you know, 754 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: I got to take care of myself, make sure my 755 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: mind's straight first. And when I do got it, I'm 756 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm a very generous person, you know what I mean. 757 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: I help a lot of people. I do a lot 758 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: for people, but I got to make sure i'm straight first. Well, 759 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: I think the best go ahead. 760 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: I think the best thing that you're doing is that 761 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 5: foundation that you just you just name the name of it. 762 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 5: The next hits the next I think that's helping, you know, 763 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: kids who want to learn the business, you know, does 764 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 5: not have their father that you know, I think that's 765 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 5: pretty dope and proud of you. 766 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, we just getting started, man, and 767 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: going to push it to the max. Yeah. 768 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: What have your conversation has been like with your dads? 769 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: Just about the business side of it since you've come 770 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: up out of the things you said with my dad. 771 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the whole thing right there, man. Like, man, 772 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: he got out, we hit the ground running. He was 773 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: making bred I was trying to educate him. I'm taking 774 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: him to my accountant and wealth manager offices. And he 775 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: just lives a different life. 776 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 5: Man. 777 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: He don't differentiate prison from real life like he can. 778 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm cool in here, I'm cool out there, you know. 779 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: And it's like I don't live like that. Like I 780 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: can imagine being around niggas all day. I couldn't. I 781 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: couldn't imagine it. So it's like, that's that's just him. 782 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: And I try to, you know, show him, teach him, 783 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: put him on like put him in the most comfortable 784 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: situation possible, and that still couldn't change his mind. And 785 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: that was like my eye opening for me. Like, and 786 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, you could do anything for a person, and 787 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: if they're not ready to accept it, they're not ready 788 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: to move forward with how they think there's nothing you 789 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: could do about it, you know, so that just how 790 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: does that? How does that hurt you? Oh? 791 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: Man? 792 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: I mean every time it's like worse and worse. Because 793 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: this time when he got out, Bro, he do a song. 794 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: He was on the fucking stage with Kendrick at the 795 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: pop out holding my son. It's a picture Kendrick, my 796 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: son and my dad on stage at the pop out, 797 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: did songs with Snoop Dogg, did a whole album with 798 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: the game that went number one on iTunes. He did 799 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: a bunch of shit, and for him to go back 800 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: this time, it probably hurt the worst cause I'm like, Bro, 801 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: like you actually was gett into it, getting respect, getting love, 802 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: getting money, all the shit, and it's like you still 803 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: ended up back in there. It's like that's where the 804 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: software update comes from. Like I got to update my software. 805 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: I gotta start playing with my life. I gotta just 806 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: take me more serious, you know, instead of always pouring 807 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: into everybody else as much. 808 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: As I do. Have you offered him help, like you know, 809 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: listen many not for sure? 810 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: We didn't, man, Bro, We didn't talk about it at all. 811 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: Like I'm like I might have to take him to 812 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: the most random middle of America city and just like 813 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: where it's no action, and bring a therapist and just 814 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: like work out all day and make music. Man Like, 815 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: that's probably the only way to save him, you know 816 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: what I mean, He'll probably find some bullshit out there 817 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: if everybody still finds something to get into the institution. 818 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: He is man for shure, I mean, bro, Like, he 819 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: had a plea deal to not even have the three 820 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: years he just got now, and he said he would 821 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: rather be in prison than be on the streets on 822 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: probation because he can get washed up for a longer 823 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: time that way, I guess, but I couldn't imagine that, man, 824 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's like, well, you 825 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: don't want my health, then, you know what I mean, 826 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: I pay for the Lord to get you the plea deal. 827 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: You want to, you know, do your thing. So how 828 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: A mean when you get out, bro? How mean when 829 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: you get out? 830 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: What kind of friction is that cause between the father 831 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: and the sundow get the business? 832 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean it's deep, bro, It's deep. And 833 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: that's the friction where it's like, I'm all I've always 834 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: been forgiven, I've always been like, you know, their form, 835 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: sending breasts, sending help, whatever the case is. And this 836 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: is the one time where I'm like, it's got to 837 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: be tough. Love, bro, holl at me when you get out, 838 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: because I did everything. I paid for the high priced lawyer. 839 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: I flew to North Carolina where the case was God 840 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: on the stand, talk to the judge, spend my time 841 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: out there, time away from my son, all this shit, 842 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: and you still win against everything that I, you know, 843 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: put the energy into. And I'm like, well, bro, I 844 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: gotta focus on me. Period. 845 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Does he have a sentim entitlement? 846 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you do. Yeah, yeah, show And I made 847 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: it so easy all these years, and it's like, yeah, 848 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: no I can't. I can't play them games no more. 849 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 4: Mm hm so crazy. 850 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 851 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: What do you think about AI? 852 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: Man? 853 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: Like, how's AI gonna impact the production process? 854 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: Man? I think it's a dope tool man. Don't use 855 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: it as a crutch. Don't press a button and then 856 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: get a person to beat and be like that shit. 857 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: Like you know, if you press that button and you 858 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: hear something dope, try to flip it as if you 859 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: was just listening to a sample off the radio or 860 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: a sample off a record, whatever the case is. Just 861 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: it's a tool. Man, I'm rocking with it. 862 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh you know when you say press a button, what 863 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: do you mean? 864 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: Like it's like you could just literally programs where it's 865 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: like you could type some in press the button and 866 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: it give you like an outline of what you typed in, 867 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: whether it's a like make a hit boy beat, make 868 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: an East Coast hip hop nineteen ninety nine type beat, 869 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: and it'll give you something that's in that area type 870 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: you know, vibe. But you know, I don't think you 871 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: should just take that and be like, oh boom my 872 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: eight this. I mean you could. I'm sure it's happening. 873 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure i'd be hearing music on the radio. Like, man, 874 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: it sounds like it could be a sometimes, but you know, 875 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. But yeah, I think it's an ill 876 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: tool if you use it the right way and just 877 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: use it as a tool, not a crutch. 878 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: So it's has sparked some creativity, yeah for sure. 879 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: Like you know, it's like I use it kind of 880 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: like how I would use MIDI Like, if I play 881 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: a piano progression and I want to turn into some 882 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: like strings, I could just bo and run it through 883 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: that and I could take them strings and then chop 884 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 2: them up and make it, you know, into his own thing. 885 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: What do you think about artists though? Artists? I mean, man, 886 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: I feel like K pop, Demon Hunters, is AI, you know, 887 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: all the kids. It sounds like I can't even get 888 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: one song off in the card no more. I be 889 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: trying to play my music. My son, like, nah, play 890 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: a soda pop play you know. I'm like, man, damn it. 891 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: It's humbling, you know what I mean. But it's also 892 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: eye opening, Like, man, this is doing numbers? Like what 893 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: am I missing? But I don't know, but it sounds 894 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: like you to me. 895 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know everything they do is 896 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 4: just like magic. 897 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: Like it goes up for them kids. 898 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 5: Numbers you're listening with the different pair is though you 899 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 5: got producers something. 900 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just listening. I'm messing around with AI 901 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: and the listening to that, it just it sounds like 902 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: it's an AI and it might not be. I don't 903 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: want to disrespect the creatives that's behind that, but it's like, 904 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: you know, that's just how I feel. 905 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: I've got a couple more questions you have. You have 906 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: a give an artist beat you knew was dope and 907 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 3: they just completely wasted. 908 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: It plenty times. I ain't gonna put no names out there, 909 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: but you know I was. It was. It's certain songs 910 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: that I just wish would have been like actual hits, 911 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: like Watch and Learn for Rihanna, like every girl I 912 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: run into, like that's my favorite Rihanna song and it's like, damn, 913 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: that should have been a hit, or like right here 914 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: with Justin Bieber and Drake, Like I don't understand why 915 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 2: them songs wasn't like top ten or whatever, but that's 916 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: part of the game. 917 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: You know. 918 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: Learn is my jazz. 919 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: I wish. I mean, you know, we all wish, but 920 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I wish Nipsey had to pass on. 921 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh man, come on man. I feel like Racks in the. 922 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: Middle was a perfect follow up the Victory bro. 923 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: That was his whole vision. Like he came to me 924 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: and uh, I was actually about to put that song out. 925 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: It was gonna be It was gonna be on my 926 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: production album. I was about to do like a calid 927 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: esque type album, different feature and different artists, and that 928 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: was gonna be me featuring Roddy Rich. Rddy had a 929 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: verse on there, and we was about to we literally 930 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: starting the paperwork process, and I low key had Nit 931 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: pull up. I wanted to him to throw a verse 932 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: on it. He heard the song, he was like, Bro, 933 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: run that back. I ran it back. He's like, man, 934 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: let me get this joint. 935 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: Bro. 936 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: He was like, this could be the perfect song to 937 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: like push, you know, into my next rollout you know, 938 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: post victory lap. And I'm like, I'm just like cool, 939 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: let's run it, you know what I mean. And he 940 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: came through. He did the song. It was a movie 941 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: like him doing three verses talking about the stuff he 942 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: was talking about and laying it on the line like that. 943 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: And for that to play out that way, it was 944 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: just a movie for me, man like insane and I 945 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: was looking for I was talking to Nip every day. 946 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: We texted at six in the morning, you know, top 947 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 2: of the morning, just like sending samples back and forth. 948 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: I'm sending him beats I had just made. We talking 949 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: about He's telling me he wanted me to be involved 950 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 2: in this next project heavy and for that to you know, 951 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: you know happened, how it happened. It was super fucked 952 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: up man, sad time for real. 953 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, because on rack that's what he talks about your fat. 954 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was airy, bro. It was in 955 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: a way to beat sound with the choirs and all 956 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: that and just him walking through the graveyard like man, 957 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: nuts nuts. It was dope though. I don't know. At 958 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: the video shoot, I got to meet his grandmother. We 959 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: was on the private jet kicking it. They drinking champagne. 960 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: I was flying, like being able to experience that. 961 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: I remember that picture. Yeah, I remember when he posted 962 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: that picture. 963 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: I was there. I'm in the video. I mean, that 964 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: was my that's my mcclearen, like next to the other 965 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: car in front of the private jet. 966 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: That's what you would have ended up, like what you 967 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: did with NAS, that would have been I agree. 968 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: I don't think I think we would have did damage 969 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: the damage man. Like, I feel like Racks in the 970 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: Middle is still one of the most like revolutionary West 971 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Coast beats from the modern era, you know what I mean. 972 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: I feel like that's where if I was to think about, 973 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: like if Dre was actually gonna make Detox, I think 974 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: it should sound like Racks in the Middle level like, 975 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, because it's got that that West Coast like, 976 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: you know, drag on it, but it's still sound new, 977 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: you know, you got to push it forward. 978 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: You want me for that too. 979 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a bitter sweet man crazy. But but 980 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 2: the good thing is like when we made the song, 981 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: you felt like that. We felt like, man, this is 982 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: Grammy level. We was playing that joint back to back. 983 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 2: We was turned up in the stool. Was really feeling that. 984 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: So for it to it was just validating like them, 985 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 2: like Nip was on, he was right on, spot on, 986 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 987 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: People really embraced the loss of people really realize how 988 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: big of a lost that was, especially for the West Coast. 989 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: I think, so I think the world, you know, you know, 990 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, obviously when you know it's 991 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: fucked up, and when people passed, they get even bigger. 992 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: More people tap in. So it's like, you know, his 993 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: legacy is spreaded, and you see what Black Sam doing. 994 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 2: He's taking a brand and just like turning it into 995 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: you know, a monster. 996 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: Man. 997 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 2: It's amazing. So yeah, man, it's crazy. 998 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 5: I'm glad that you are like making yourself seen and 999 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 5: I hope you do a lot more present because I'm 1000 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 5: tired of. 1001 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: Googling your name. Stories of boys actually being hit come up. 1002 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1003 00:39:53,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that time for sure, what's hard at making 1004 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: a beat that gives a rapper of a hit or 1005 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 3: making a beat that gives them like a career. 1006 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say revival with like resurgence. 1007 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: It's all the same thing. I'm just making music. I 1008 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: don't I never meant to make a hit. I just 1009 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: made music that I felt, you know. And most of 1010 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: my hits that that y'all would know me for it 1011 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: came from me just being in the stool, just damnar 1012 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: by myself, just cooking up, having fun. 1013 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: Man. 1014 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 2: That's what this production shit has always been about for me, 1015 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 2: just literally having fun. 1016 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 3: At this point in your career, are you making music 1017 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: for money, for legacy or just because you you can't stop? 1018 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: It's what you know, all the above uneath the bread 1019 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 2: I'm trying to you know, I mean the legacy, that's 1020 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: just it's gonna shape up. It's gonna be what it's 1021 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: gonna be, and I just I just love to do it, 1022 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I said, like, I 1023 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: love when I feel my own growth. I love when 1024 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 2: I feel myself advancing and being able to do certain 1025 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 2: things that I wanted to do five years ago musically 1026 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: that I can now accomplish and now I can now 1027 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: you know, fully manipulating being these sounds as the ways 1028 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: that I can make them do whatever I want to. 1029 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if hit Boy stop producing to day, what 1030 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think the game would lose? 1031 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 2: Man? Some authenticity. It's just like just raw like you 1032 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: know my I mean, bruh, I just like I said, 1033 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: I shoot from the hip every time, like I don't. 1034 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how to make 1035 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: a hit. I'm just making music and it should just 1036 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: be coming. What is becoming like, you know, just being 1037 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: able to see some of these songs performed in stadiums 1038 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: and watching Beyonce, watching whole watching you know, Travis Kendrick 1039 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: doing backseat freestyle still on his tour like it's ill, 1040 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just like and it's still 1041 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: rocking as if it just dropped. It's like, man, you 1042 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: just gotta make what you feel in it. You know. 1043 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: I've been making some stuff that's you know, timeless. Have 1044 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: you got anything but Kendrick tuck Away. I'll be chopping 1045 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 2: them with bro man. That's why I'll be telling people, man, 1046 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: it's crazy. So my little was my son at he 1047 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 2: five years old. Now before his fourth birthday, he made 1048 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: he made a song. He made his first song because 1049 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: he was in most of the sessions with me and I. 1050 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 2: I was just sitting in the back. Didn't realize he 1051 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 2: was taking this all in. Told him, you know, I 1052 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 2: asked him, did he want to make a song for 1053 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 2: his birthday? Put him on the mic. He literally freestyled 1054 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: with contexts. I was laughing. It was crazy. But put 1055 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: the song out with a video, and I think it 1056 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 2: was the day not like us drop. And that's how 1057 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: I knew Kendrick was just like this was light work 1058 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 2: for him. This whole ship. Like he text me about 1059 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: my son video like go ahead, nephew, Like you know 1060 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: what I mean? You know what I mean. It's like 1061 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 2: bro like in the middle. I'm like this nigga Like 1062 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: he crazy? He really crazy? He cool though, well hip 1063 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: boy and spank Niitty James, y'all got y'all coming out 1064 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: of Shout my boys, spank Man, shout out him man 1065 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: the whole Inland Empire. 1066 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: Whatsank where you from? 1067 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 2: He's from him He's from deep into II. 1068 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1069 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: Show that's in like east of l A, like like 1070 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: an hour east of LA. That's where we all kind 1071 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: of came up. I grew up in Pasadena, but when 1072 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: I was thirteen, I moved to the I E. And 1073 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: that's where I learned how to make beats and all 1074 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: that shit. So it was vital. But I was sad 1075 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: when I first moved out of Dina for sure. But yeah, 1076 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: the II, that's you know, a lot of homies out there. 1077 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: And then but you and Alchemists got it. I'm coming 1078 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: out October twenty fourth. 1079 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got an album and a movie you that 1080 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna make people look at us 1081 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: in a whole different light. 1082 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then a solo I'm called Software Update. 1083 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited, bro. It's like it's it's it's genuine. 1084 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: It's coming from a place of like this shit coming 1085 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: from our soul. Man. So like I'm just like looking 1086 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: forward to, you know, letting people see me in a 1087 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 2: different light and just like pushing you know what I've 1088 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: done forward. 1089 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're free now Free. 1090 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: It's amazing, hit Free. I just threw like a million 1091 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: dollar party in the l A last week and shot 1092 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: a video with az Chike Baby trying to spank and 1093 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: that was the illest we had Marathon Burger up there. 1094 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: We had this whole eat Couch activation because we got 1095 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: the song called eat Couch and it was it was crazy. 1096 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 2: It's like smashing the girl on the couch from the 1097 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: back of her faces in the couch. So she eating 1098 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: the couch. 1099 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: Pillow for that. Here's a pillow. 1100 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, I sink is just funny. When 1101 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 2: he said he couch, man, that's that just had me 1102 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: laughing so hard. I'm like, we got to put this 1103 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: joint out, man. 1104 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: Why the hell is the party a million dollars because. 1105 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 2: It was a celebration eighteen years. Man, I'm like, I 1106 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: gotta go all out. I just went crazy. I just 1107 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 2: had all types of activations. I had, you know, hood 1108 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: Taco spots, Marathon Berger, you know, just a lot of 1109 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: fly ship going or man. 1110 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: That's what it's hit boy, man, thank you for coming, my. 1111 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 2: Brother for suw appreciate you, man, Yes, sir, every day. 1112 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: A week, click yours up the breakfast club. You're finished 1113 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 1: for y'all dumb