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Speaker 1: Open practice, the first one of training camp. Welcome Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Ersman joins me. Day two of

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Speaker 1: Cards camp saw fans in the seats here at State

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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium. Kyler Murray throwing to Marvin Harrison Junior was

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Speaker 1: the highlight of course. Greg Dortsch meant a nice catch

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Speaker 1: on a deep ball. Plus things got a little heated,

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Speaker 1: Just a little heated between Will Hernandez and Mac Wilson Senior.

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Speaker 1: Also thoughts on the QB Center relationship and the competition

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Speaker 1: to be QB two. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven

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Speaker 1: to seventy three and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Puda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 3: What Rent?

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Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten, half of five.

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Speaker 4: He's in again some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Wow, here's Craig Graeler.

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Speaker 1: Always a little bit different. When the fans walk into

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Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium for that first open practice of training camp,

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Speaker 1: and Thursday was day one. There are eight more days

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Speaker 1: of open practices before the Cardinals do break camp and

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Speaker 1: head back to Tempe. But a good crowd, first of all,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the Bird Gang showing up, and I think the

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Speaker 1: players appreciate it as well, because things always seem to

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Speaker 1: ramp up just a little bit more than when there

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Speaker 4: Of course, you could feel it in the air a

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Speaker 4: make this fifty three man roster makes a big time

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Speaker 4: play and he gets to have the appreciation, uh and

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Speaker 4: get to hear the applause from the crowd, to hear

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Speaker 4: from the Bird Gang. But Craig, I think saying that

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Speaker 4: they walked in was generous because we saw that running in.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're excited. It's our first look at this

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Speaker 4: twenty and twenty four Arizona car Ardenal's team, something that

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Speaker 4: has been highly talked about throughout the offseason. They've been praised,

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Speaker 4: and now they get to see it in Fruition, come

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Speaker 4: to Fruition, give it their first look here at training camp.

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Speaker 1: Not a padded practice, But as Jonathan Gannon mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the media before practice, quote, we're going to go go today.

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Speaker 1: So it was a little bit of a higher intensity

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Speaker 1: workout practice than it was on Wednesday. And that's what

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Speaker 1: JG likes to do, the low high, low high, and

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Speaker 1: I think the players appreciate that as well. But of

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Speaker 1: course fans, as you mentioned, running to their seats and

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Speaker 1: what do they want to see. They want to see

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray throw the ball to Marvin Harrison Junior. And

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Speaker 1: they did it, by the way, captured it on video

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Speaker 4: Same video angle. But hey, more Kyler and Marvin. I

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Speaker 1: The first eleven on eleven session and the first completed

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Speaker 1: It's what many fans have been waiting for in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Some of those video highlights. Again you're throwing on air,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is where it all starts.

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Speaker 4: And that's not their first time having a pitch and

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Speaker 4: To see the connection between him and Kyler, that's everything

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Speaker 1: A couple of other highlights. Greg Dortch with a nice

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Speaker 1: saw tip Ryman catch maybe as many or more footballs

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Speaker 1: he's known for a blocker, but how much more twelve

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Speaker 4: Well, when they were doing seven on sevens, there was

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Speaker 4: You are starting to see that it wasn't just all

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Speaker 4: They actually saw something during his All Star Game tryouts

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Speaker 4: He looks really big out there, and that's what you

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Speaker 4: And we haven't really been able to see the mauling

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Speaker 4: But once those pads come on, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Couple other notes on offense. Now, we can say, with

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Speaker 4: Yes, and he's got He's earned a lot of praise

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Speaker 3: It definitely works out.

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Speaker 4: And there were multiple times when Paris Johnson and Evan

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Speaker 4: It was an interesting note from Froholt about having that

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Speaker 3: That communication is huge.

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Speaker 4: It's massive, because I mean, Yelda said that he has

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Speaker 1: Murray and a lot of unspoken communication in the words

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Speaker 1: Because you remember mid season, as we saw Kyler stepped

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Speaker 1: going back to it a full off season, Kyler being healthy,

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Speaker 4: a threat, and he brought up Starling Thomas. That's an

438
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Speaker 4: undrafted rookie out of UAB and he is not backed

439
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Speaker 4: down from any challenge. I don't see him backing down

440
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Speaker 4: from a cornerback battle spot. He's gone through a lot

441
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Speaker 4: throughout his career. Played in college with a torn acl

442
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Speaker 4: for eight straight games, he told me, which is absolutely insane,

443
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Speaker 4: But that's the sort of resilience that you wanted a

444
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Speaker 4: player because they just love ball. And I asked him, why,

445
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Speaker 4: why would you do that? And he said, I just

446
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Speaker 4: don't want to get off the field, and he didn't.

447
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Speaker 1: By the way, for Starling Thomas, five passes defense last

448
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Speaker 1: season second most among cornerbacks, and then Melton coming in

449
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Speaker 1: as a second round pick, by the way, had a

450
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Speaker 1: near interception of Clayton tune In eleven on eleven. You

451
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Speaker 1: hate to see those near drops, but the fact that

452
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Speaker 1: you have a defensive back hutting his hand on a

453
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Speaker 1: football which didn't happen a whole heck of a lot

454
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Speaker 1: a year ago. So I'm very curious on how that

455
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Speaker 1: rotation or what looks what happens now on Friday, what

456
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Speaker 1: happened on Sunday. As this camp continues, are they going

457
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Speaker 1: to continue to rotate a Starling Thomas and a Max Meltiner.

458
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Speaker 1: Does someone go ahead of another and solidify cornerback number two?

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Speaker 4: Well, they definitely should continue to the rotation because I

460
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Speaker 4: think as a if I were to be a coach,

461
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want my second round pick thinking he's already

462
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Speaker 4: earned it. And Max Malin knows he hasn't earned it.

463
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Speaker 4: He said he already has a lot to prove and

464
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Speaker 4: a lot to bring to the table. But having competition

465
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Speaker 4: is a useful thing. It brings out the best in

466
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Speaker 4: your other, in your in your teammate, and your friend.

467
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Speaker 4: Because you want them to see the light at the

468
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Speaker 4: end of the tunnel that we can make it. We

469
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Speaker 4: could be a starter, but there's something.

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Speaker 3: In the way.

471
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Speaker 4: What's in the way. It's a competition battle and you

472
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Speaker 4: have to bring it. You have to bring your a game,

473
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Speaker 4: regardless if it's a low day or a high day.

474
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Speaker 4: They need to have days similar to their opening practice

475
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Speaker 4: on a Wednesday, which Max Malin said was a low day,

476
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Speaker 4: but the tension was in the air. You want to

477
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Speaker 4: feel that tension, that positive tension that it feels like

478
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Speaker 4: a game day like atmosphere, even with no fans in

479
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Speaker 4: attendance in that opening practice. You want to have that

480
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Speaker 4: in the room. You want to have that amongst one another.

481
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Speaker 4: And I do think that you could definitely sprinkle in

482
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Speaker 4: and Elijah Jones. Hope to see some reps out of him.

483
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Speaker 4: The third round selection, number ninetieth overall in the twenty

484
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Speaker 4: twenty four NFL drafted jayde and Davis. What could he

485
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Speaker 4: bring to the table, even though he's kind of in

486
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Speaker 4: that similar safety cornerback spot that we could see a

487
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Speaker 4: little bit from Garrett Williams. There are a lot of

488
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Speaker 4: different players out there. Depth is a good thing, and

489
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Speaker 4: I know JG talked about not being able to pencil

490
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Speaker 4: in fifty three players, especially in that cornerback room. There's

491
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Speaker 4: a lot of players that you could pencil in you

492
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Speaker 4: might be able to erase because of the type of

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Speaker 4: depth and talent they have there.

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Speaker 1: You talked about tension. There was a little tension at

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Speaker 1: one point during practice. Now it wasn't a fight. I

496
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Speaker 1: don't even know if it was really a skirmish, a

497
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Speaker 1: little pushing a shove really and guess who was in

498
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Speaker 1: the middle of it all, Will Hernandez, of course, Will

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Speaker 1: Hernandez and Max Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Which also makes sense, Yes, which a little time we've

501
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Speaker 4: gone to know Mac, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mac has has a little bit of a chip

503
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Speaker 1: on his shoulder, which is good. But it was on

504
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Speaker 1: the opposite sideline of where we were, so one don't

505
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Speaker 1: know who started it, really don't care who started it.

506
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Speaker 1: But on day two of camp, day one, with fans

507
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Speaker 1: and attendance, things got how about we say a little

508
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Speaker 1: heated between the offense and defense.

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Speaker 4: You've got two pit bulls just going after each other.

510
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Speaker 4: They both want to call themselves dogs, but those are

511
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Speaker 4: two pit bulls, you know, going head to head right there.

512
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Speaker 4: This this once again, it goes back to the wanting

513
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Speaker 4: to bring the best out of one another. This isn't

514
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Speaker 4: out of hate trade or out of disdain towards one another.

515
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Speaker 4: This is out of wanting to protect your teammates and

516
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Speaker 4: wanting to bring out the best of one another. It's

517
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Speaker 4: wanting to stand up for the guy to your right

518
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Speaker 4: and to your left, the guys that you share this

519
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Speaker 4: locker room with. So I'm not surprised that it was

520
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Speaker 4: those two players that it happened between. But I will

521
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Speaker 4: say last year, JG kept saying non negotiable, non negotiable

522
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Speaker 4: when talking about fighting. Now hasn't been asked directly here

523
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Speaker 4: to jage G, even though we know that fighting remains

524
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Speaker 4: a non negotiable. But the way that they were able

525
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Speaker 4: to quickly settle it and they said that they're all good.

526
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Speaker 4: Will Hernandez spoke to media and said that all is well,

527
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Speaker 4: that's what you want to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, neither player was kicked out of practice, which is

529
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Speaker 1: the consequence of a fight. I'll all say this. Will

530
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Speaker 1: was pulled out of action for one play and there

531
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Speaker 1: was a conversation between he and offensive coordinator Drew Petsing

532
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Speaker 1: once that play wrapped up. Will was back in there

533
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Speaker 1: at right guard, so you don't Again. Ron Woofley loves

534
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Speaker 1: to see this happen during training camp, and things do

535
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Speaker 1: happen like this. But I think what the coaches want

536
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Speaker 1: to preach to these players is it cannot happen in

537
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Speaker 1: a game. One penalty fifteen yards might have taken a

538
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Speaker 1: touchdown off the board, or you could get ejected and

539
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Speaker 1: all of a sudd but now you're down man. So

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Speaker 1: that's why the don't fight. I don't condone it. I

541
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Speaker 1: don't want to see it yet. All coaches know that

542
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Speaker 1: things are going to happen, but if it does, make

543
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Speaker 1: sure as quickly as it may begin, it ends as well.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, dust Ups are a thing in these sort of practices.

545
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Speaker 4: You see it all the way from the top down.

546
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Speaker 4: Even the reigning defending back to back champs and the

547
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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs, they had a little skirmish happening there

548
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Speaker 4: one of their early training camp practices. It happens in

549
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Speaker 4: the league. These are a bunch of macho personalities, a

550
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Speaker 4: bunch of strong physical dudes on the field that are

551
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Speaker 4: looking out for one another. There's a lot of pride

552
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Speaker 4: on the line and jobs are on the line here,

553
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Speaker 4: so they know that they have to bring it, they

554
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Speaker 4: have to give it their all. But when it's a

555
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Speaker 4: dust up, you could settle it quite quite smoothly, and

556
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Speaker 4: that seems to be what they did.

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Speaker 1: Special teams notes. As far as punt return, we really

558
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Speaker 1: haven't seen the kickoff rules in action yet. I think

559
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Speaker 1: they're waiting until the pads come on. But as far

560
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Speaker 1: as who's back to return punts, Rondel Moore Michael Wilson

561
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Speaker 1: was out there earlier on thurd dor Sorry, I say

562
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Speaker 1: run down, you saw number four. I had number four

563
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Speaker 1: written down immediately, wrote thought Rondel Moore, I'm sorry's.

564
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Speaker 4: Doing it out in Atlanta, so you might not be wrong.

565
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Speaker 4: But here at State Farm Stadium it was Greg Dortch

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Speaker 4: at number four.

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Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, Michael Wilson and Xavier Weaver, the wide receiver

568
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Speaker 1: Rookie wide Receiver out of Colorado were part of the

569
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Speaker 1: rotation at punt return. It's interesting to see number fourteen

570
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Speaker 1: Michael Wilson out there, but again it is Greg Dortch's job.

571
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Speaker 1: But you also want to make sure you have a

572
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Speaker 1: cable backup, especially if that particular week Dorsch is more

573
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Speaker 1: heavily involved in the offense, and you want him to

574
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Speaker 1: have too many snaps on punt return or likely get hurt.

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Speaker 1: You need someone that is capable of doing it. I

576
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Speaker 1: don't know how often we've seen Michael Wilson, though, do

577
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Speaker 1: it period.

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Speaker 4: Last season he wasn't doing it really at all. I'm

579
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Speaker 4: shocked though, that DJ Dallas isn't out there returning any punts.

580
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Speaker 4: He's been the one to be calling for the snap

581
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Speaker 4: on the kickoff side of things, on the punt side

582
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Speaker 4: of things, but on the return. It's the three that

583
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Speaker 4: you mentioned, Greg Dorge, Michael Wilson, and Xavier Weaver. For

584
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Speaker 4: a guy like Xavier Weaver, that's his route to making

585
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Speaker 4: the roster. We just talked about the competition at wide

586
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: receiver fighting for that last spot. If you could also,

587
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Speaker 4: on top of bringing something to the table in the

588
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Speaker 4: wide receiver room, if you could do it in your

589
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 4: punt and kickoff return game, that's huge and that's something

590
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Speaker 4: that they're definitely gonna be wanting to see out of

591
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Speaker 4: the undrafted rookie Michael Wilson. I'm not sure if he

592
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Speaker 4: took part in it at Stanford at all, but last

593
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: year he wasn't really out there for any punt return. Obviously,

594
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Speaker 4: with Greg dorts we know what he brings to the table.

595
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Speaker 4: Saw it a bunch here at State Farm Stadium. So

596
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Speaker 4: whether it is his job to lose, and that's in

597
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: that case, but you also want to be prepared. If

598
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Speaker 4: Greg Dortsch is going to have a significant role on

599
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Speaker 4: the offense, you might not want him as much out

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Speaker 4: there for punt and kickoff returns.

601
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Speaker 1: Second open practice is on Friday, Saturday of the team

602
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Speaker 1: is off, Sunday is open to season twoket holders, and

603
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Speaker 1: then Monday, the twenty ninth, another open practice that is

604
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: the first scheduled padded practice. For details and how you

605
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: can be involved, get into State Farm Stadium, go to

606
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Speaker 1: Aisycardinals dot com. Yes parking is free, Yes admission is free,

607
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: but you do need a digital ticket to get in

608
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Goodaisycardinals dot com for more information. The last topic is

609
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Speaker 1: something JG was asked about earlier on Thursday, and that

610
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Speaker 1: is the competition, because that's a lot about what training

611
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: camp is, but specifically the competition for number two quarterback.

612
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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter is the veteran with starting experience, and then

613
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Speaker 1: you have Clayton Tune year two, who as the one

614
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Speaker 1: start last year in Cleveland, which did not go well,

615
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Speaker 1: but he was put in a bad spot. But the

616
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Speaker 1: competition to be Kyler Murray's backup. We hope we never

617
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Speaker 1: see the backup quarterback, but that competition which JG mentioned,

618
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Speaker 1: is a healthy bit of competition. And the topic was

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Speaker 1: about keeping two or three three quarterbacks. If you keep

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Speaker 1: a third quarterback on the fifty three, now, all of

621
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got to take away from an offensive lineman,

622
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, tight end, a cornerback. So it's not

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Speaker 1: just that Desmond Ritter and Clayton Tune are competing against

624
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Speaker 1: one another. That are also competing against that sixth wide

625
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Speaker 1: receiver or that seventh wide receiver, that fifth running back

626
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Speaker 1: that's trying to make the team who emerges behind Kyler Murray.

627
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Speaker 4: Having two swing tackles on a roster potentially in a

628
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Speaker 4: Christian Jones and Calvin Beacham, that might take up a

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Speaker 4: roster spot as opposed to just having one of those

630
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Speaker 4: guys out there. It's a numbers game when you have

631
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Speaker 4: to cut it down from ninety to fifty three, and

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Speaker 4: then you have to keep in mind who you want

633
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Speaker 4: on your practice squad roster, but you have to potentially

634
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Speaker 4: open it up to other teams being able to snag

635
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Speaker 4: them once you release these players. There's a lot of

636
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Speaker 4: different things that impact the decision. For that to happen

637
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: now is fascinating because last season JG openly advocated for

638
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Speaker 4: having three quarterbacks on the roster, saying that that's something

639
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: that he enjoyed having at his disposal. We saw with

640
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Speaker 4: Draft Dresscoll, Clayton Tune and then with Kyler Murray at

641
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Speaker 4: quarterback once that was the case, and then they parted

642
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: ways with Jeff Dresscoll towards the latter half of the season.

643
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Speaker 4: But it is a numbers game, and for both Clayton

644
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: Tune and for Desmond Ridder, they shouldn't be fighting for

645
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Speaker 4: QB two. They should be fighting for QB one in

646
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Speaker 4: mine now while you know it's gonna be Kyler Murray,

647
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Speaker 4: because you're a human being and you know the fact

648
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Speaker 4: that he's your franchise quarterback. You have to have that

649
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Speaker 4: mentality because I remember when Desmond Ridder was brought onto

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Speaker 4: the team, he told us on a zoom call, he said,

651
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Speaker 4: I am four seconds away from potentially being out there

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Speaker 4: and that's the same four seconds that Clayton Touon might

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Speaker 4: be away from being out there on Thursday. Wasn't the

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Speaker 4: best the practices for either of them. Desmond Ridder through

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Speaker 4: an interception, wasn't fully able, wasn't on the same page

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Speaker 4: as a lot of his receivers, a lot of his targets.

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Speaker 4: But something I loved that he did was there was

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Speaker 4: a miscommunication between him and Blake Whiteheart, and he right

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Speaker 4: away walked up to Blake Whiteheart, dapped him up, They

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Speaker 4: talked about it, and then they went right back into

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Speaker 4: the huddle. That's the type of leadership and the veteran

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Speaker 4: leadership that Desmond Ridder brings to the table that Klaian

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Speaker 4: Tune might not fully have. But Tune is also he's

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Speaker 4: still you know, it's his second year in the system,

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Speaker 4: his second year in the league. There's a lot that

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Speaker 4: is going to be on the line for both of

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Speaker 4: those guys.

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Speaker 1: When JG was talking about that competition, he did mention

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Speaker 1: that both Desmond and Clayton were going to get first

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Speaker 1: team reps. Now, is that here in practice or was

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Speaker 1: he more talking about the preseason. That first preseason game

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Speaker 1: against the New Orleans Saints. Does Kyler Murray even play

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Speaker 1: in the preseason to allow for first team snaps with

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Speaker 1: Ritter and Tune something to keep an eye on and

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Speaker 1: maybe heck, we heard the announcement earlier on Thursday that

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Joe Burrow's got a scheduled day off on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Do we see Kyler Murray get a scheduled day off?

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Speaker 1: Not to allow for the backups to have first team reps,

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Speaker 1: but more to give Kyler Murray the time off. But

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Speaker 1: interesting to see or to hear here JG say, first

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Speaker 1: team reps are going to be in the future for both,

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Speaker 1: whether that's in practice or the preseason, to kind of

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Speaker 1: help add more evaluation. Who's going to be that QB two?

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Speaker 3: Do you really think Kyler would want a day off?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the thing. Like I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 4: trying to knock Joe Burrow. He's a great quarterback out there.

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Speaker 1: He's also coming off an injury Kyler.

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Speaker 4: Kyler's too, but he's he's gotten his feet wet, and

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Speaker 4: we see it seems to be the type of player,

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Speaker 4: uh that he doesn't want to stay away from football.

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Speaker 4: That's why We've seen so much offseason activity from him.

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Speaker 4: He's got the lifestyle that he could pick up and

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Speaker 4: go wherever in the world and relax and tour and

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Speaker 4: do whatever. It was all about Bald this offseason for him.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if Kawn would want a day off.

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Speaker 4: But keeping in mind whether he plays in the preseason,

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Speaker 4: how much he plays in the preseason, think about it

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Speaker 4: week the second preseason game here, Andy Reid had Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes and Travis Kelcey out for the entire first half.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot and really depends on coaching philosophies,

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Speaker 4: So who knows, but that's something definitely keep an eye

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Speaker 4: out uh next week and as you get closer to

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Speaker 4: the preseason opener right here at State Farm Stadium against

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Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Zach, you knew. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: today is? Today? Thursday, July twenty fifth. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what today is?

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Speaker 4: This is a trick question right now, it's not a

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Speaker 4: trick question.

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Speaker 1: Just asked you know what today is?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Today is Drew Terrell's birthday, so Drew Trell too, So

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Speaker 1: a shout out to the Cardinals wide receivers coach passing

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Speaker 1: game coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Who also Keith Ismails. Oh good, call pretty sure. I

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Speaker 4: saw that on our on our Instagram page.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I went up to coach Durell and it was in

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Speaker 1: between drill, so I didn't interrupt, but I just said

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Speaker 1: happy birthday and he said thanks. He goes, how do

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Speaker 1: you know that? I know everything? And it's kind of

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Speaker 1: part of the employee thing, and you know, And I

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Speaker 1: go and Marvin Harrison was on one side and Say

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Speaker 1: Jones was on the other. I go, I go to

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Speaker 1: these guys know, He goes, I think Marvin knows they

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Speaker 1: just found out. I was like, okay, good, did Zage

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Speaker 1: find out?

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Speaker 3: Because you said no, it.

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Speaker 1: Was just like earlier in the day. Hey look so yeah, it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't surprise me if if Marvin was to be the

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Speaker 4: one to know about it, seems to be very aware

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Speaker 4: of everything going on around him.

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Speaker 1: So if you happen to see Drew Terrell wish him

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Speaker 1: a happy birthday on this Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't you sing it for him?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not sappy birthday to you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's enough sack, all right, And because.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking part of karaoke after that's true.

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Speaker 1: Since We don't want to upset the bird Gang too much.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna call it right there based off your singing.

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Speaker 3: Is that okay? That hurts?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Bird Gang? I know you want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: No, no one wants to hear you, but you will

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Speaker 1: hear from Zach Gershman on Friday, and a special guest

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Speaker 1: will join us as well. NFL Networks Omar Ruiz will

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Speaker 1: join us to talk about the Cardinals, the NFC West

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Speaker 1: and promote back Together Weekend on the NFL Network with

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Also talked about his journey a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So I know that there's a lot of you know,

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Speaker 4: young sports casters out there that want to hear so

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Speaker 4: you get to hear from one of the best.

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Speaker 1: So something to look forward to too. Of course, yes,

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Speaker 1: of course it goes without saying yes. On that note,

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Speaker 1: we'll put a lid on This edition of Cardinals. Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has

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Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamahandre, our

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Speaker 1: associate producer Coddy Fincher. For Zach Kershman, I'm Graig Riolu.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time hereon Cardinals Cover two,