WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Most Wonderful Time

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The It's the most wonderful time

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<v Speaker 1>of the year addition, and by that I don't only

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<v Speaker 1>mean Christmas, I mean the end of the NFL season,

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<v Speaker 1>when your team is in playoff contention and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have a one game lead in the AFC North with

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<v Speaker 1>two games to go after beating Baltimore forty one twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, you'll hear radio replays from the win, postgame

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<v Speaker 1>comments from players and coaches, and analysis from my broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>partner Dave Lapham. Then, in this week's fun Facts segment,

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<v Speaker 1>Safety Michael J. Thomas joins my unofficial Fun Facts Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame with an all time classic conversation that is

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<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since my mother's Christmas potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I am from a mostly Swedish family and on Christmas Day,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother always makes her famous Swedish Christmas potatoes. Years

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<v Speaker 1>ago she wrote down the recipe for me, so now

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<v Speaker 1>I make them. The key ingredients are potatoes, heavy cream,

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of butter. There's a reason why we only

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<v Speaker 1>eat them once a year. Each forkful contains approximately nine thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred seventy two calories. My moms are universally considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be the greatest potatoes ever made, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of bragging, mine rank second. Now let's get to football.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Cincinnati Baltimore showdown pitted the two teams tied for

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<v Speaker 1>first in the AFC North. But let's be honest, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens were the Ravens in name only. They've been devastated

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<v Speaker 1>by injuries all year and had a COVID outbreak this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so bad that Baltimore had to call up

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<v Speaker 1>ten players from its practice squad, and the casualties included

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens top two quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson is dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle injury, and backup Tyler Huntley was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys on the COVID list. SO Baltimore starter was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five year old Josh Johnson, who has claimed off

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets practice squad last week. Josh was a Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>backup in twenty thirteen and is the ultimate NFL journeyman.

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<v Speaker 1>Between the active roster, practice squad and training camp. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been with the Bucks, forty nine Ers, Browns, Bengals, Jets, Colts, Bills, Ravens, Giants, Texans, Raiders, Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>and Washington Football Team, a whopping thirteen NFL teams in all.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday marked the ninth start of his NFL career, and

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<v Speaker 1>after the Bengals kicked a field goal on their opening

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<v Speaker 1>drive to take a three nothing lead, Johnson drove the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens seventy five yards in twelve plays. Third down and

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<v Speaker 1>goal from the four. Murray in the backfield of the

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<v Speaker 1>right of Josh Johnson, he will drop back to throw

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<v Speaker 1>pass over the middle. Wide open for the touchdown is

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<v Speaker 1>Bateman as he cut inside of Mike Hilton and hauled

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<v Speaker 1>it in for the Ravens TD. So Baltimore led seven

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<v Speaker 1>to three. It was clear right away that the depleted

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens weren't going to roll over and play dead. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had to answer and did, electing to go for

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<v Speaker 1>it on fourth and goal from the one. Mixon moves

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<v Speaker 1>to Burrow's left. They handed to Joe Mixing, chose in

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown Bengals as the decision to go for it on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and goal pays off and the Bengals take the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Zach Taylor on the decision to go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mindset thing at that moment. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fourth and goal on the one yard line. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can't get in there, then we don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>any points. But our guys entered the bill. It was

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<v Speaker 1>ten three Bengals after the first quarter. After the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>punted early in the second, the Bengals attacked fur out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gun catches the Hopkins snap fires down field,

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<v Speaker 1>run go two weights pretty down the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>field of the twenty to ten Yeah five whoa begar

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<v Speaker 1>salt good into the end zone, touchdown Bengal sixty eight yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow to boy. They had five defenders like a picket

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<v Speaker 1>fence about ten yards down the football field, and John

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<v Speaker 1>Harbaugh is looking up the field like, what what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>How did he get so open, Unlike former Bengal Jerome

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson on Christmas Eve ten years ago or Antonio Brown

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<v Speaker 1>when he was still with the Steelers. Boy did not

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<v Speaker 1>stick the landing on his leaping somersault. But he's still

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<v Speaker 1>got a good grade from Joe Mixon. I'll probably give

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<v Speaker 1>him maybe an a minus. And the reason why I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give him that is because I've seen a b a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago do a whole flip and land on

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<v Speaker 1>his feet and I was real life impressive. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'll give it to a minus. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was seventeen seven Cincinnati and after a three and

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<v Speaker 1>out by Baltimore, the Bengals scored again, chasing Boyd out

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<v Speaker 1>to the left, Higgins out to the right. Burrow throws

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<v Speaker 1>caught by a wide Joson what a cut back to

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field down Bengal. Burrowed, I'm mixing

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<v Speaker 1>from nine yards out and the Bengals are pouring it on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty three to seven, pending the extra point. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to do is take the hope away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Baltimore Ravens. That was mixing sixteenth touchdown of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. He needs one more to tie Carl Pickens

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<v Speaker 1>franchise record. To the Ravens credit, they stared with a

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen play ninety yard drive, picking up first downs on

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<v Speaker 1>third and twelve, third and thirteen, and third and ten

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<v Speaker 1>before scoring on a two yard run by DeVante Freeman

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<v Speaker 1>to make it twenty four fourteen. But they also left

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty eight on the clock. Row back to throw.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna fling it high and deep down field and

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<v Speaker 1>it is fiends. Higgins, with a defender on either side,

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<v Speaker 1>goes up and over both of them and hauls it in.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be first in goal at the three. Brandon Stevens

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<v Speaker 1>and Kievan Seymour were powerless for the leaping ability and

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<v Speaker 1>reach of Higgins. Higgins finished with twelve catches for one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety four yards, both career highs, fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>of the yards coming on that play. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>play was actually designed for Tyler and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>doing my job, running for the love of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look up the balls in the air, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy all right, so and then I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>make a play, and you know, it was over two people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably one of the greatest plays in my careers.

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<v Speaker 1>And after two straight defensive holding penalties in the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>including one that negated an interception. Burrow went to Tea again.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow drops back to throw pass caught te Higgins with

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown catch as he started close to the left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle and then just cut toward the left pyline. Made

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<v Speaker 1>the catch, and the Bengals have scored on all five

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<v Speaker 1>out their first half possessions. They scored forty one points

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore, and they're about to put their thirty first

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<v Speaker 1>point on the board in the first half in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>After missing two games early in the season with a

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder injury, Higgins has seventy one catches for one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine yards. Here's Burrow in the last four or

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks, he's been unbelievable. And the way he's catching

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<v Speaker 1>the ball is I've not you ever seen anything like it.

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<v Speaker 1>The way he's catching the ball with strong hands in traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been awesome. The Bengals led thirty one fourteen at

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<v Speaker 1>the half and kept their foot on the gas on

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<v Speaker 1>their only possession of the third quarter. They held the

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<v Speaker 1>ball for ten minutes and twenty nine seconds before settling

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<v Speaker 1>for an Evan McPherson field goal that made it thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four fourteen going to the final quarter, but any thought

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<v Speaker 1>of resting the starters was squelched when Josh Johnson threw

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<v Speaker 1>an eighteen yard touchdown passed to Mark Andrews that made

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<v Speaker 1>it thirty four twenty one early in the fourth. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor. They've been down similar situations like this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay had him down I think it was eleven

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<v Speaker 1>last week and had a three and out, and they

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<v Speaker 1>came rowing back and had chance to win the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were not going to allow that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So on their next drive, rather than trying to kill

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<v Speaker 1>the clock by running the ball, the Bengals passed on

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<v Speaker 1>eight straight plays and Burrow completed all eight second and

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<v Speaker 1>seven from the Baltimore ten, Burrow ready for the shotgun snap,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe has the ball, drops back three steps. He fired

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<v Speaker 1>headed his cot Bite Higgins touchdown Bengals as he ran

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<v Speaker 1>a post pattern cut position inside of Darryl Worley and

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<v Speaker 1>halves in burrows fourth touchdown pass of the game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in Joe Burrow's NFL career he's thrown

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<v Speaker 1>four or more. That made it forty one twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals kept throwing. Here's Burrow when asked if

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals were trying to send a message, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I think their offense is moving the

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<v Speaker 1>ball a day. They were doing a good job, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting points on the board, and they were the

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<v Speaker 1>number one rush defense in the league going into the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So and we were throwing the ball really well. So

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<v Speaker 1>we needed first owns to keep their offense off the field,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and we were just doing what was working.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow through his final pass on third and four with

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes to go. Ten defenders at the line of

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage for Baltimore. They send three, they cover with eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrows scrambling, throws it deep down. The old mixing makes

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<v Speaker 1>the catch at the ten, hand goes down half seven.

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<v Speaker 1>He beat Anthony Levine Burrow with a deep ball completion,

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<v Speaker 1>and that we'll take Joe Burrow up and over five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred passing yards, the first quarterback in more than fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years of Bengals football to ever do it. Burrow finished

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<v Speaker 1>with five hundred twenty five passing yards to break Boomerassison's

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<v Speaker 1>team record of four ninety set back in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five twenty five is the fourth highest total in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL record is five fifty four, set by Norm

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<v Speaker 1>Van Brocklin in nineteen fifty one. Here's Burrow, I'm joining

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<v Speaker 1>the five hundred club. I think it means a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole team. Now, that's not just a reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of means a reflection of the offensive line, the receiver's

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, and how we went out and executed today.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's exciting. But despite his team first modesty, Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help cracking a smile when reminded about a comment

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<v Speaker 1>made by Ball to more defensive coordinator Don Wink Martindale

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week when asked if the Ravens would use

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<v Speaker 1>the same strategy they used the week before against the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay duo of Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers in

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<v Speaker 1>hopes of shutting down Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. To

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and have you think that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>run the same plan against Jamar Chase as we did

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers, We're going down the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>street because you know, like I said last week, Davanta Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the top two receivers in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not number two. So and Aaron Rodgers is

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame quarterback, and I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to buy a gold jacket for Joe yet. In

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<v Speaker 1>fairness to Martindale, he said a bunch of complimentary things

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<v Speaker 1>about Burrow in that news conference, but the gold jacket

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<v Speaker 1>comment is the one that got the headlines and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Burrow heard. I didn't think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>necessary comment. I wouldn't say I was offended by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm in year two. Who knows what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen down the road. I didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a necessary comment. Was it on your mind when you

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<v Speaker 1>were throwing at the end. Maybe In two games against

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore this year, Burrow through for nine hundred forty one

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<v Speaker 1>yards and seven touchdowns with a passer rating of one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one point one. Moral of the story, according to

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Hendrickson, don't say anything that can give Burrow an

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<v Speaker 1>added edge. It's just one of those things that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go around pissing that guy off. So um, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he did a great job. I know we're really proud

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<v Speaker 1>of him and as a defense. You know, he's important

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<v Speaker 1>to us. I read a couple of things, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe admittedly Burrow's performance and the bengals forty one

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty one route came against an injury and COVID

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<v Speaker 1>ravaged Ravens roster, but Zach Taylor says it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 1>anything away from the win. No heck, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>They seventeen last year, we had hardly anybody left, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't feel anybody minimizing their win against us,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we sure it has had no heart. It

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<v Speaker 1>is win in December. These guys have fought hard. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked them to answer the bell. They did, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>still the Baltimore Ravens out there playing a meaningful football

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And so our guys shouldn't apologize for one

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<v Speaker 1>second for the performance they went out there and do today.

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<v Speaker 1>And dang proud of those guys for how they hung

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<v Speaker 1>in there at the full course of the game and

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<v Speaker 1>be handled. You know, the adversity we've had over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of time too, and you know it's just our

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<v Speaker 1>time to sit out there and make them mark for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are nine and six with two games to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They lead Baltimore by a game, Pittsburgh by a game

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, and Cleveland by two. Up next a

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<v Speaker 1>home game against the number one playoff seat and the

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<v Speaker 1>AFC the eleven and four Kansas City Chiefs, a team

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<v Speaker 1>with an eight game winning streak, concluding a thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>for postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham lap

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<v Speaker 1>it's Christmas time. We're celebrating our Lord and Savior, Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope nobody's offended. It's just a joke, but five

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five yards, four touchdowns, the first quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals history to throw for more than five hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>in a game. We are so fortunate to have this

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<v Speaker 1>guy as the quarterback of this franchise for the hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>the next ten years at least. But man, is he good.

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<v Speaker 1>He really is. I mean, he's he's so special with

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<v Speaker 1>not just the way he throws the football, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the obvious part. I think what's so unique

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<v Speaker 1>about him. And talked about a little bit after the

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<v Speaker 1>game with with Martindale and all that he can do

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<v Speaker 1>in the big inventory he has to draw from. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe said, I just saw everything that I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>see kind of one. I needed to see it and

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<v Speaker 1>saw the football field and obviously he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not just me when you go for five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five yards. My line did a good job,

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<v Speaker 1>my receivers, my running backs, everybody. So he obviously passed

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<v Speaker 1>a credit like all quarterbacks do. But his receivers were

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<v Speaker 1>just running great routes and just separation. They they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>they were overmatched, I mean, under manned and overmatched, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no two ways about it. And the Bengals took full

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of it. But that's life in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't feel sorry for anybody. That's that's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I mean, I would have loved to have

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<v Speaker 1>seen Tyler Boyd get one more ball for fifteen yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and have those three the Triplets, the three headed Monster

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<v Speaker 1>all have over a hundred yards receiving the same game.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been unbelievable. If if he didn't run

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<v Speaker 1>out of if that sixty eight yard touchdown could have

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<v Speaker 1>been good from eighty three, he had to go eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three and get the fifteen yards. You just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of real estate. Basically, I think anybody can

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably admit that the Bengals were not facing the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 1>a teams between players that are injured, reserve and COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore is missing a ton of great players. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we said in the pregame and during the game, that

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<v Speaker 1>is not the Bengals fault. You. You try to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the team that you are facing. And they capitalized on

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore's many good players that were sidelined. And what if

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<v Speaker 1>it had been a three point game and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>had edged him, They getting killed, They getting killed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you win by three scores and now you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're running it up and you're the bully, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're undermanned, and you know, why are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing this? And doing that. To me, it was third

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen. They wanted to get a first down, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got the first down. Then they sat on the football.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the bottom line. The Baltimore Ravens Josh Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>was playing. He was playing football quarterback rating of ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight point three twenty eight or forty three hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>three and four yards passing against a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense that has been playing playing pretty darn well.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't run the ball. They didn't run the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and they couldn't when they tried to two point four

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<v Speaker 1>yards of carry. That's gonna do nothing but help their

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<v Speaker 1>their status stopping the run. But in both football teams

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<v Speaker 1>decided they have to throw the football in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both did. But I mean, how about the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>Like six hundred yards offense in this one, over five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards offense in the first one eighty two points

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven hundred plush yards offense. That is ridiculous, ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that first matchup, I mean Humphrey was matched

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<v Speaker 1>up on Chase when he had over two hundred yards.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's crazy. Ravens defensive coordinator Wink Martindale. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a Rex Ryan kind of guy. He's brash, not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to say things. He's a great defensive coordinator. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>could argue that. But he made the comment during the

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<v Speaker 1>week that Joe Burrow basically is not ready to be

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<v Speaker 1>fitted for a gold jacket yet. And he's right. But

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<v Speaker 1>in two games against the Ravens, sixty for eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>That's seventy one percent completion, nine hundred forty one yards,

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<v Speaker 1>seven touchdowns, one interception, passer rating of one thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>point one. That's a nightmare that Wink Bartondale and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens are going to have to worry about for the

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<v Speaker 1>next however many years. I'd say he's got the right

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<v Speaker 1>arm of the jacket measured out from those two games

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore. I mean that right arm is golden man.

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<v Speaker 1>He is he is something, and as you say, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to regress. I mean, if anything, he's even

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<v Speaker 1>going to get sharper if that's if that's possible. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it, really. I've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that have laser focus. This guy, though, is like

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<v Speaker 1>the same, no matter what. Big game like this, a

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<v Speaker 1>game where he throws one hundred, one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards as long as they win the football game. He

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<v Speaker 1>is truly good with it. And people, ah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of talk. No, it's it's fact, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is all about w's and ells and man's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna he's gonna put together a remarkable career. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that this guy is a Cincinnati Bengal again. His

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<v Speaker 1>mind for the game of football, he's been blessed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the football gods said Joe Burrow, you will be born

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<v Speaker 1>a football genius. And not only was he born a

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<v Speaker 1>football genius, his mentor was his dad, who coached for

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<v Speaker 1>a long played at a high level, coached at a

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<v Speaker 1>high level. I'm sure the conversations they had when Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Barrow was growing up about defenses. Joe Barrow could get

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<v Speaker 1>up and give you a lecture about defense and install

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<v Speaker 1>defenses just like he can install offenses. He not only

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<v Speaker 1>understands his offense, he knows exactly what defenses are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do to take away his offense. This guy is

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<v Speaker 1>unquestionably a football savant. I don't think I see any

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<v Speaker 1>young quarterback that gets the game of football better than

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Barrow. This dude. Very rarely do you fool the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's and he is always bitterly disappointed and

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<v Speaker 1>visibly upset when he's fooled. That's the only time I

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<v Speaker 1>see him show emotion. It's like I was fooled on that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's not that I didn't I didn't read

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<v Speaker 1>it the right way. It's not that my execution was

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<v Speaker 1>good enough. I can't be fooled. Nobody can fool me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way he approaches the game. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, not just young quarterbacks. I think he's I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's as sharp as guys that have been in

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<v Speaker 1>the league ten years or longer. This dude gets the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it into perspective from an offensive lineman's viewpoint, how

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary it is for Trey Hendrickson, competing against the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, to have at least a half a

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<v Speaker 1>sack in eleven consecutive games. I mean, everybody strive for consistency.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big word, you know, and it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest compliments that you can get. Besides, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when guys say, oh, man, you're he's great. That guy's great.

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<v Speaker 1>The next word that you want to hear. Man, that

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<v Speaker 1>player is so consistent. We can just rely on him,

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<v Speaker 1>count on him. He's reliable. He's so consistent. That is

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to hear. And that's that's a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>population of potential population of players in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hendrickson has unique talents which make him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an upper cruss player, and he's so consistent with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we were talking during the broadcast that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like sack here, sack and a half here, or

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<v Speaker 1>a half a sack there. It was never when Corey

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<v Speaker 1>Bacon had his great season, he had a five stack game.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a guy that couldn't handle him, and they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't at the point yet were sliding protections, chipping, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting a tight end over there. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, you gotta go block him, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get it done. And football's evolved, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you're not gonna see necessarily a situation like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna let a guy get a five stack game,

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<v Speaker 1>and for him to get one or at least a

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<v Speaker 1>half a one for eleven straight football games is remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>on me. If you can get one next week against

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City and tie the freak. I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 1>a half a sack in twelve games. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>now he's got a sack in thirteen of his last

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen games. That's that's half a sack. At least a

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<v Speaker 1>half a sack in thirteen of his last fifteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot define consistency any better than that. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>set the stage now, two games to go, a one

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<v Speaker 1>game lead in the division over Baltimore. At least Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>still to come as we record this conversation, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals essentially have put themselves in the position where if

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<v Speaker 1>they win one more game and it doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 1>all that much whether it's Kansas City or Cleveland, they

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<v Speaker 1>are in the playoffs. And honestly, I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 1>them put a string together where you know they finished

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<v Speaker 1>the game on an uptick, on finished the season, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, on an uptick on an up note, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, first thing you want to do is make

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. But if you go into the playoffs playing

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<v Speaker 1>on a consistent level and on an upswing from a

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<v Speaker 1>momentum standpoint, you feel better about it. If you if

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<v Speaker 1>you back your way into the playoffs or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, now you just feel lucky to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go and you beat you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that they beat in Denver, Baltimore, Kansas City, Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>when they're all most of the time when they were

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<v Speaker 1>playing them, was like another playoff game. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>can get on a mini four game quasi playoff run,

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<v Speaker 1>that would stand them in really good stead. So I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to see them just go toe to toe with

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs, who is They're a damn good

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<v Speaker 1>football team. Their defensive football team is really good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is well put together football team. If they can

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<v Speaker 1>beat Kansas City, that would be a heck of an accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that no matter what, the Cleveland Browns

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna want to beat the Cincinnati Bengals, particularly if

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<v Speaker 1>it could knock them out of the playoffs. They're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna if they're eliminated, whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in both situations as a Bengal playing the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns, and there's they're equally sweet. They are. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like if you can particularly your last game of

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<v Speaker 1>the season is beating your in state arch rival to

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<v Speaker 1>knock them out of the playoffs. You feel a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better about yourself than if you go into the offseason having,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getten rashed by that group as they go

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs. More on Sundays when join Lap and

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<v Speaker 1>Lance mccalist. They're for Bengals Line Monday night from six

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<v Speaker 1>to night on seven hundred WLW. Now time this week's

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<v Speaker 1>fun Facts segment where you get to know the person

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<v Speaker 1>under the pads. Time for some fun facts of Bengal

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<v Speaker 1>safety Michael Thomas, a nine year NFL VET and a

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<v Speaker 1>former pro bowler from Houston, Texas. Growing up in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>were you obsessed with sports and did you have a

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<v Speaker 1>wide variety of interests? Oh Man, definitely was obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>sports shoot through a watching football with my dad, But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>baseball was my first love. Basketball just like any other kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan was my favorite athlete. But other interests though, since

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<v Speaker 1>you asked that point, I did part take in acting

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit? Well, I know you did some acting

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<v Speaker 1>when you went to Stanford. I read that you had

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<v Speaker 1>the lead role in Killer Joe. Tell me about that man.

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>It was a crazy, crazy sequence of events Stanford. They

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>loved me and all my theater arts class there. Let's

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>just go out for this play. All right? I did it.

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I did to try the audition. Next thing I knew

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I had the leading role in the play. I'm all right,

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 1>we'll see where this goes. It turned it was a

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>great turnout. When the show started, all my teammates came,

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody on campus came like that. We got great reviews

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and next thing I know, you know, I'm

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in newspaper articles and stuff for us. I'm like, well,

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>football don't work out, Maybe I have an acting career.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>How just memorizing your lines for a play compared to

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>memorizing a playbook, Oh man, it's it's it's crazy how

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>great the crossover was. I remember our first actual table read,

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I had already memorized everything is. I'm like, oh, you

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>got to prepare attention to detail and stuff. And I

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.439
<v Speaker 1>guess nobody else was supposed to be off book for

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like another two weeks. And when they saw me reading

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>my lines and getting the character as if, I was like,

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, if we were performing to play right then

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>everybody was like, oh, shoot, this guy's intensive. So it's

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely some crossover to it, and I just took

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>it serious. But it's I think it's a little easier.

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Michael Thomas. Let's talk about your high

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>school football career. You were an option quarterback. Correct, Yes,

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I see, you've done your homework right. Yeah, definitely played

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>quarterback my whole career until I got to Stanford. That

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.239
<v Speaker 1>it was fun. I had the ball in my hands. Yea.

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>I was born on that side of the side of

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the football. But at the end of the day, you know,

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I think there were some receivers that I grew up

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>with that were kind of mad at me. Definitely weren't

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>throwing the ball. A lot of nimits. So from the

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>research I've read that you went to Stanford at least

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in part because you competed against another Houston area high

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>school quarterback who people listening to this have heard of,

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Ltte. Is that true? Absolutely? Man, Like we were

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in the same It was crazy. We were in the

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>same district growing up in high school. And man, every

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>what everybody knew of him in college or you know,

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>like got to see in the NFL. He's been like

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that since we were fourteen fifteen years old. So once

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>he started getting recruited by Stanford and he committed, and

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>once they started recruiting me, I was like, well, I

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>know that guy's gonna be good. So shoot, if I

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:51.719
<v Speaker 1>get in, that's where I'm going. We're gonna have success.

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>And it certainly played out that way. Does it sadden

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you that his NFL career ended as soon as it

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>did a little bit, just because I know how hard

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 1>he worked and how you know, the aspirations of him

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and what he wanted to do, you know, being great

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and all that. But at the end of the day,

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just talked to him yesterday and you

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>know we stayed we stayed very close, like we're like

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>great friends, like almost like brothers. Like he's happy and

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the injuries and stuff. I know, he didn't want to

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>put that stup, you know, his his body and his

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>family through that again going to rehab and he just

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>had his first kid. Uh, so he's happy, man. So

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>so it's saddened me that we couldn't all witness the

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>greatness of Andrew Luck the quarterback. But at the end

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of the day, the person, I think he's better. So

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>you must have been a great student to go to Stanford.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You earned your degree in sociology. What was the hardest

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>course you took and what was your favorite course at Stanford? Oh? Definitely, Uh,

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was definitely a culture shock to me

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>once I went to Stanford. Uh. Struggled a little bit

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>as a as a as a freshman, but um, and

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that came from playing and then I put some on

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>stress on myself by pleasure a fred and doing all

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that them all as a young guy. Right. But I

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>say the hardest course was probably my freshman year, a

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>computer science course that all freshmen have to take, and

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that let me know, Yeah, I will not be a

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>coder at Stanman or we're not going to coding. But

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, once you learn what any type

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of college institution is looking for out of their students

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and what they expect time management and all that stuff,

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I did well. And I'll say my favorite

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>course ended up being stats statistics, just because I'm able

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to take the problem of any you know, any word

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>problem and stuff and just be able to apply whatever

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>formula that was needed for that that equation and figure

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>out a solution. So I think that that type of

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you know mind and thinking like that that's who I am.

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>A college degree from any institution is something to be

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>proud of, but they're not all created equal. What does

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it mean to you to have a degree from that institution?

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this. You know it is a recruiting tool, right,

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>They're a little quote, Oh you know, Stanford isn't a

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>four year decision. It's a forty year decision. Right. You

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>know what year you buy until you eat it up,

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know it sells itself. Right. But I'll say this,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>any anybody who graduates from Stanford, you don't truly understand

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>what that means until you leave and you start to

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>see the weight of oh where'd you go to school?

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And you say Stanford, and how everyone else treats you,

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you know that that that stamp of approval,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that weight of that name. And then how many people

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in your network, you know, from the Stanford alumni and

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what they got going on, and they're like, oh,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you went to Stafford, come on, we'll just teach you,

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll bring you along. It's it's it's it's definitely a

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>great experience. I thank god I made that decision to

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>go there. It will serve you well for the rest

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of your life. You're talking to Bengal safety Michael Thomas.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Despite an excellent college career, you weren't drafted. Did that

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>put a chip on your shoulder? And if so, is

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it's still there? Absolutely, that's not something that goes away,

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, like everybody else you grew up. Oh yeah,

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna win the highsman, I'm gonna be the number

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>one overall pick. I'm gonna get drafted. Hear my name

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>called walk on the stage, right, and you know to

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>not go through that, you know it definitely, It definitely

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>changes your mindset instantly, right, I guess it forced with

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you to grow up fast. You you don't come in

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just why I you know Google. You know with your

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>career you're like, no, I gotta take everything serious because

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>only I'm not guaranteed even to get an opportunity. And

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>if I do it, I can't make mistakes. I almost

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>have to be perfect. And that mindset never changes because

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you're a status of undrafted never goes away as well.

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's both on you know, in your locker room,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>on your field, but also you know, in the business

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>side of it. Right, So I've used that to feel me.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I see other undrafted guys. And I see guys on

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the practice squad and when I when I see them

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room, I try to make sure that

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I encourage. I'm like, hey, you don't know how close

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you are. Keep working that opportunities go coming. When it does,

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>don't let it go. You spent your first NFL season

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of the forty nine ers practice squad where one of

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>your teammates was Hall of Famer Randy Moss. His son,

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Thaddius is your teammate this year with the Bengals. Did

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you share that nugget with Thad when you join the Bengals. Oh? Absolutely.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I Actually I think I embarrassed myself. I got into

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like left Weights early and he was one of the

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>first people here as well. I was like, oh, yeah,

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>what's up, Early? My name is Michael, Yeah, who are

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you yo? What's your name with? What school you go to?

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>And he kind of like I was taking it back.

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, I went to LSU, but here, really,

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like say his name or

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. And I realized very quickly, Oh, I

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize what I was talking to. Bro. Do you

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>know I played with your dad? He started laughing. He

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, he told me a little bit about you,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and it was just a running joke. It was like, dude,

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you know how to hold you or you played with

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>my dad? You know, it's kind of weird that I'm

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>playing with yourself. Man, Like now we joke about it.

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>But that was a blessing to be able for me

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to be able to say I played with Randy Moss

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and he was probably one of the coolest teammates you

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>could ever have, just spoke with everybody he wanted. He

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>was a joy to be around, told stories, held court

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. It's like, dude, do you understand

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like I grew up yours a c the Moss people,

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>your name's a bird, yours help and I'm just sitting

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>here just you know, chopping it up with You're eating

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>with you and stuff like So that was a great

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>experience and to be able to be with that, and now,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I try to give him as much game

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>as I can from my perspective and what I went

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>through and knowing what he's going through now, man, So

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it comes full circle. We're fun facts with Bengal safety

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas. Everybody remembers his NFL debut, but yours was

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>especially impressive. You earned AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>You're with the Dolphins at the time, Describe how you

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>earned it? Oh Man, from Monday to Monday and that

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>December fifteenth, oh Man, like that that was? That was crazy?

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh got you know, got the call. Woke up almost

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>miss my opportunity. First off, Dan woke up to a

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>bunch of miss miss texts and calls from my agent.

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Woke up. She's like, hey, if you don't let me

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>know right now what you want to do, the team's

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna move on to another player. They're trying to claim here.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who is it, Miami Dolphins. Let's go like

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>she score. I'm trying to play almost two years on

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the press squad, Get there on like a Wednesday, the

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>GMTLD leg Look, we got a bunch of injuries at dB.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>You're only coming here to play on special teams. Punt

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>return was my only job for Sunday, right, Okay, cool bit,

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>get there. I'm doing my job. I'm happy I get

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to play in the NFL. Fourth quarter comes, we're winning

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the game, and then two starting dbs get hurt. So

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>next saying you know, I gotta go into defense. Actually,

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>then our now Beingals defensive coordinate coordinator, lou Hana Rumo

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>was a dB coach there. He's like, thirty one, you

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>played a little nickel, right yeah, No, nobody knows my name.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>They ain't not worried about me. Thirty one, you played

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a little nickel in college, right yeah. So just go

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 1>out there to Rashad Jones and safety. They're gonna tell

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you what coverage it is. You know, just just play football.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The only problem is we're going against Tom Brady in

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the New England Patriots. So he sees me in the slot.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>He's just picking on me down the field. Regular storyline,

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady game, win and drive for a touchdown, right,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>get to the fourth get to the red zone. He

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>tries me on first and goal for the game with

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Amadola in the end zone or you know, elmen one

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>other two. And I see the ball coming Dan, and

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, my heart is just raising and I'm like,

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>oh no. I was like, no, let me lose the game.

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Right here, he has the ball in his hand. I

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>fight all the way to the ground. Next thing you know,

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the ball pops out and I'm just hype my teammates.

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, high five me. They still don't know my name.

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Great job, thirty one, good job, incomplete, incomplete. So now

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>it's fourth and you know, fourth goal for the game.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Coach eight, call's time out there, Like, Mike, we're gonna

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>get you some help. You're in the safety. You're gonna

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 1>double team Edelman in the slot. And I'm like, thank you, Lord.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like, even if we lose,

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>just don't let it be on me, said hunt. Edelman

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>goes underneath. I free up just from you know, my

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>study of how to play the coverage everywhere else I've

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>been next thing, the thing I know. I look up

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>there in the balls coming. It's like a movie slow

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 1>motion catch it fall down in the end zone. I'm like, wait,

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.439
<v Speaker 1>did I just catch my first interception? Or wait, wait

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that's for the game. Wait that's Tom Brady. I'm just crying.

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like going crazy. My teammates jumping up and down

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.479
<v Speaker 1>on me, camera on my face, the crowd's going nuts.

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It was just wild. It was just wild, man. And

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean I couldn't have drawn it up better. Um,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's why I encourage every guy that's

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>on practice squad or undraft to just keep working, man,

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>You never know when that opportunity is gonna come, and

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>when it does, just make the most of it. Man,

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>A game clinching interception off the goat Tom Brady in

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the final ten seconds of your NFL debut. That's pretty incredible.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>We're chatting in Michael Thomas. You're with the Dolphins for

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>five years, then you joined the New York Giants and

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you earned a Pro Bowl spot as a special team

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>stand out. From undrafted to practice squad to the Pro Bowl.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>What did that honor mean? It was? I mean it

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was more than gratifying, Dan, you know, I mean everybody

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>puts in so much work, in time and effort into playing,

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>but to earn for me is to earn that respect

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of everybody in the league. You know, all your peers,

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>everybody you've played with, and you know how much day

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 1>put into it right now, so you know, I can

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>talk all day about that and the coaches for them

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>to you know, you come up to you after every

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>game like I love the way you play, I love

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>your passing. But to finally get that stamp up approval

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that not and been banging on it, you know for

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>years when I was with the Dolphins. But Matthew Slater's

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>just he's my goya. I just couldn't crack it right whatever.

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>So to finally get that, man, that that meant a

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>lot to me because you know, forever, I'll be able

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to say I made the Pro Bowl in the NFL

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>at the highest level. So yeah, it's good stuff. You

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>spent last year playing for your hometown team, the Houston Texans.

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Was that a dream come true? I didn't even know it,

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>but yes, you know, like when I signed with the Texas,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:09.959
<v Speaker 1>I was never like, oh, yeah, I want to finish

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.479
<v Speaker 1>out my career or you know, advisually played for hometown team.

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I've never really that never really crossed them one. Especially

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>if I went undrafted. I was like, shooting, we ever

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>want to give me a job, we ever want to

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>play for? That's where I'm going, right. But once I

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>actually signed, and you know, it came across on Twitter,

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>social media, you know everywhere, and everybody at the way

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody at home reacted, you know, people like almost in tears,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>are worring tears when they saw it, Like, man, I

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>get to root from my guy. You're playing for the

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>hometown team. You know how crazy. That's my light. I

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, thing that means a lot, you know, like

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it means a lot to everybody, to the city, to

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the schools I went to, and grew up in how

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>much I was able to do for the Houston community

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>because I was there and I was really from there.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean that meant the Larne and you were the

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Texans nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award,

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>recognizing what you've done off the field. I know you've

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>had a free youth football camp for several years, and

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>one of your focuses is teaching kids. It's about finances,

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>right absolutely, Like financial literacy and education. To me, like

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>those are the keys, you know, yeah, to try to

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, change those cycles of whatever that is really poverty,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>lack of resources. It's gonna take kids going to you know,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>going to school. Us being better than the generations before us.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And not to say, you know, it's wrong how we

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>were growing up. They were giving us the best that

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>they had that they had available, the knowledge that they had,

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>our resources that they had, right. But it has to

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 1>stop somewhere, you know, and those those you know, bad

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>cycles have to stop somewhere and it's the access to

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that education, It's the access to those resources. And if

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm able to, you know, after everything I've learned, all

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>my experiences, be able to come and bring that back

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to my hometown city. And that's that's that's what I

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, I'm called to do. All Right,

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a few wildcard categories with Michael Thomas to wrap this up.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>You answered this one actually early, but you can elaborate now.

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Your all time favorite athlete in any sport and why.

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Definitely growing up it was Michael Jordan hands down, you know,

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>like like I mean like it was. It was just

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>like everybody else. It was almost like sickening, you know,

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>like how I felt the bottom growing up. Just a

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>mistique about him, obviously, you just talking about sports. The

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>unblemish six you know what I'm saying, six six titles

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and on six tries. But that work, acted that that drive,

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that will to win, you know, challenging teammates and stuff

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't think the last dance changed my

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>view that much because after being a professional athlete myself,

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I know what it takes and sometimes you do got

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to challenge of teammates and leadership styles are different, but yeah,

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'd say that just just that will to win

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and just finding a way, just finding a way to

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>get it done. Aside from acting. Do you have any

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>other hidden talents? Nah? Man, I'd say acting probably is

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that that that one hidden talent um. But you know now,

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just trying to be the best father I can be,

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>still learning on the fly. I got three young kids

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure out how to be a good

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>husband and my wife Like, that's that's about it. What

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 1>are you terrible as Oh? I'd probably say I'm terrible

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>at cooking, but that's something I am going to work at,

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I think my wife would appreciate it

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>as well, just to help out a little bit. So

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say cooking. You are one of three Michael

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Thomas's in the NFL, including a current teammate. Have you

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>ever been confused for the other two? What that's on

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a daily basis? I promised. If I look up my

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>phone right now on Instagram on Twitter, I'm getting called

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>slant boy yo, Like why Yo, when are you gonna

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be available for the for the Saints? I drafted you

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>in the first round. Man, Me and me and me

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and my nickname is normally Mike T. But he his

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>nickname is Mike T too so and he was here first,

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>so I can't even go by Mike T now right,

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>So we call each other twin. You'll see us do

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>our little little acknowledgement and celebration every day. But you know,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I love his personality. It's funny. We crack jokes every

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>day in the locker room, but that's on a daily

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>basis at this point. And I'll probably I'll give you

0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 1>one more. The worst part was a couple of years

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>when I was with the Dolphins. I think Nike was

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>doing like player cards or something like that and giving

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>every single player. You get your own player cards, you

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>can sign them, give them out to you know, like uh,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>at your at your youth camps and events and stuff. Right,

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I opened up my pack. Oh yeah, Dad, you already

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.919
<v Speaker 1>know what this is going. I opened up my pack

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was a box, of course, full of Mike

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Thomas for the Saints. I said, I took the social media.

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I made a video on my teammates laughing at me

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. I said, no enough enough, you

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, like, no, no, no, this has

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to stop. Somewhere, you know. But it's funny. It's a

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>great name, obviously, but no, it's cool to have a

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>teammate with the same name as Year and we just

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>feed off each other. It would be nice to get

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a paycheck from the saint that you are on the

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>same That's what I said. I am waiting. That's what

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for. It's like, give me that check. It

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>saints Nike, Jordan, whoever my name's on it, Dan, and

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>disease for me. So that's what I'm waiting for. I

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>hope it happened. Last thing, this is kind of deep.

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman,

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>religious figure, whoever that might be, who would that person be,

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say at this point Jackie Robinson. I played

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>him acting in a history fair and then performances. Ask

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>him I think was sixth grade and everything he stood for,

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>not just breaking a barrier, you know, color barrier in baseball,

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>but you know, just just the mindset he had to

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>have to go through that at that time, still go

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>out there and the pressure of going to perform and

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, be a young African American male, you know,

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>with that much weight and you know, how did he

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>deal with it? Obviously I've had my things I've had

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to deal with in my career, right, so I'd probably

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, have a conversation with him regards

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 1>with dinner, you know, drink whatever, you know, and just

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 1>just just talk about that and just talk about life.

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Tremendous answer, and this has been a lot of fun.

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time. Best of luck

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year. It's been fun for me too, man,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I hope you agree that Michael J. Thomas

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>earned a spot in the Fun Facts Hall of Fame.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.000
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