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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Christo and this is the Keeping Positive

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Speaker 2: Sweetish Show. Our next guest has made an impact on

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Speaker 2: how we show up and celebrate ourselves. He's an activist,

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Speaker 2: a mentor, media expert, and he is the creator of

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Speaker 2: the Black Excellence Brunch, a global celebration of the culture

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Speaker 2: created to build community amongst black people from all backgrounds, professions,

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Speaker 2: and walks of life. Sweeties, please welcome Sprel Thomas Trail.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you. I'm so good.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm happy to have you here. Seriously, You've been everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It's been a crazy week. It's fresh off of a fly.

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Speaker 2: You look good. I'm loving the fit.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to have you on because you have so

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Speaker 2: many amazing things going on and a lot of people

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Speaker 2: know you from your Black Excellence Brunches. Now, your Black

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Speaker 2: Excellence Brunches started in twenty seventeen. You just had friends

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Speaker 2: over for dinner and said, hey, we're all white. What

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Speaker 2: was it about that moment? Take us back to your

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Speaker 2: dinner party in twenty seventeen that sparked something in you

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Speaker 2: to say, Hey, I need to do this more often.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to be completely honest.

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Speaker 4: So twenty seventeen is when it started to look like

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Speaker 4: people see it now. But Black Excellence Brunch is really

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Speaker 4: based off the concept and the tradition that I know

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Speaker 4: that we're all familiar with Sunday dinner.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and if you're not familiar.

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Speaker 4: All the sweets out there right like it is when

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Speaker 4: you go to church, and then after church you sit

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Speaker 4: down with your family around one or two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I grew up Southern Baptist, so sometimes it.

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Speaker 4: Was three or four for me, But you really shared

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Speaker 4: this meal with your family and friends and loved ones.

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Speaker 4: And my mam will hosting at home growing up every Sunday,

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Speaker 4: and it was honestly one of the first places, Chris,

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Speaker 4: what I got to feel and see and the joy

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Speaker 4: of being a black person. And so I wanted to

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Speaker 4: recreate that feeling for my friends. So yeah, I started

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Speaker 4: doing it in my home. And then in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 4: that one that you're speaking about, I got all my

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Speaker 4: friends together. It was my going away I'll never forget.

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Speaker 4: I was moving from New York City to La Wow,

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Speaker 4: and I just brought everybody together and I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: do a little bit more today. So I was like,

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Speaker 4: can you guys were all white? Can you meet me here?

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Speaker 4: And everybody came. Everybody wore all white. And when I

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Speaker 4: tell you, it was something so special about it, because

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Speaker 4: we couldn't get two feet without people being.

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Speaker 3: Like, who are you guys?

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 4: Can I take a picture with you? People were sending

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Speaker 4: us drinks. We were at the rooftop of this restaurant,

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Speaker 4: and I just looked around the table. I remember the

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Speaker 4: exact moment, looking around the table, and I just saw

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Speaker 4: And I just thought to myself, if I could give

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Speaker 4: us this feeling all the time, I want to do that.

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Speaker 4: I want us to because this is how we should

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Speaker 4: be able to walk through life joyously, right Yeah. And

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Speaker 4: it was in that moment I remember doing a toast

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Speaker 4: and I was like, this is to all of my

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Speaker 4: black and excellent friends. This is a black excellence brunch.

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Speaker 4: And then something clicked, ah wow, And it was in

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Speaker 4: that moment I was like, I got to do more

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Speaker 4: of this and I got to gather us more. And

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Speaker 4: but most importantly, I got to put a smile on

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Speaker 1: Do that. Oh my god, oh thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, just like you group in the South, Sundays, we're

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Speaker 2: definitely our day where the family got together, everybody cousins.

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Speaker 2: So we all came to one home and like you said,

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Speaker 2: because we were at our Sundays and then we had

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Speaker 1: And that's beautiful. That that's what sparked that. So you

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Speaker 1: just toasted and then you said black Excellence brunch and

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Speaker 1: that's when you're like, wait that it just clicked.

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Speaker 4: It just clicked, and I was like, okay, I got

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Speaker 4: to do more of this, and so it was kind

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Speaker 4: And you know, like in LA and in New York,

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Speaker 4: Everybody's impressed. But I just saw how people were receiving us.

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Speaker 4: But most importantly, Crystal, I realized one that it was

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Speaker 3: Then it's not big enough.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And so in those moments, I realized, oh, this

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Speaker 4: was something so divine about the space. It just like

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Speaker 4: I tell people, even now, you can see all the

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Speaker 4: videos and the pictures, but until you've been in the space,

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Speaker 4: you don't really know. But the energy of it is

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Speaker 4: so beautiful. And I think you probably can attest to this.

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Speaker 4: There's a point in your life where you were something,

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Speaker 4: to feel responsible, responsible for bringing joy to us, responsible

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Speaker 4: for shifting the narrative, responsible for creating safe spaces. And

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Speaker 4: so it was like, all right, this isn't just a

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Speaker 3: And when you hear your call in you got to

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Speaker 1: It, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: So back then when you first started, how many people

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Speaker 2: were attending these brunches.

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Speaker 1: Because I've seen what it is now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I would say at the very beginning it

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Speaker 2: You know, did you like this has been something that's

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Speaker 2: in culturally impactful? Did you ever dream that, like when

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Speaker 1: Like, did you dream that it would ever be this big?

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Speaker 4: No, And I didn't know. I just wanted to do.

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Speaker 4: Even in the even now, there are times where people

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Speaker 4: I'm just going. I remember having this moment and I'll

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Speaker 4: And I and it was brand new. We had one

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Speaker 4: brunch on the jumbo tron and I'm like, and even

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Speaker 4: though we had done like all these partnerships and we

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh man, I guess this. This is

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Speaker 3: But it's also.

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Speaker 4: Important, I guess, to stop and be like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Remind you know it is I am.

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Speaker 2: I always remind my friends, especially when things are just

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Speaker 2: time to sit in gratitude.

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Speaker 1: I love that you're finding time to do that.

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Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned it got to a point where you

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Speaker 2: weren't coming out of your own pocket to make these

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Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, like, one of

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Speaker 3: Like I feel like you can't.

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Speaker 4: Ask anybody for anything that you're not willing to give yourself.

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Speaker 4: And that's in business, that's in relationships, that's in friendships, Like,

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Speaker 3: So when I did the first Black Exces bunch, when.

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Speaker 4: And it also let me know, like Joe, you don't

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Speaker 3: It was waiting on me to invest in myself.

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Speaker 4: It was waiting on me to like move forward and

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Speaker 4: answer the calling that I was just talking to you about.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like that's the important first step, like

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Speaker 4: the next thing, you know, the very next brunch after

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Speaker 4: I made that investment, I got fifty thousand dollars from.

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Speaker 3: Netflix to do the next one.

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Speaker 4: That's and I firmly believe it is because I was,

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Speaker 4: mode of like, oh, I'm waiting on I'm waiting on

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Speaker 2: because there's things that I still want to do and

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Speaker 1: It's waiting for me to step up to it and

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's the That's what I try to create, no

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Beyonce, come on, come on.

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Speaker 4: So I was living in New York and so Longa's

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Speaker 4: And the first thing that I worked on her, worked

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Speaker 1: Man, look at you. You're occupying all streets right now.

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Speaker 1: You're killing it.

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Speaker 4: was a mentor taught me about this too, Like I

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00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: was putting things in my toolbox. So you always collecting things,

442
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 4: and sometimes you have the tools that you need, but

443
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 4: and it's time for you to move on to the

444
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 4: next thing. But you're so comfortable or you're so you know,

445
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 4: you like the friends that you have, but whatever the

446
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 4: reason is, and you stay too long. And people do

447
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: this again and at jobs, they do their relationships, they

448
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 4: do their friendship. They do it sometimes with family members,

449
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 4: you know. And I think that when God tells you

450
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Speaker 4: to get up and move, you got to get up

451
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Speaker 4: and move.

452
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Speaker 3: And so when I I actually.

453
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Speaker 4: Would be in La a Lot, right, I would be

454
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Speaker 4: in La a Lot for work. And one day, Crystal,

455
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Speaker 4: I lie to you not. I was walking down the street,

456
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Speaker 4: you know, a palm tree line street. I've always been

457
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Speaker 4: anti LA and so pro New York. I was living

458
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 4: in New York. So I was like, I'm here, you

459
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But when I was walking down

460
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Speaker 4: the street, I heard God say so clearly home. I

461
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: just kept hearing it, and I walked by this building

462
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Speaker 4: that was named as soon as I heard that, I

463
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: walked by this building and the name of the building

464
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 4: was the name of my hometown. And they were building

465
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Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, this is such a nice building.

466
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Speaker 4: And I ended up moving and staying in that building.

467
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Speaker 1: Wow.

468
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Speaker 4: And so I feel like, too, when you're on this journey,

469
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Speaker 4: like God will speak to us, and it'll be faint,

470
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Speaker 4: and the more you lean in and listen to it,

471
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Speaker 4: the louder and the clearer it becomes.

472
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Speaker 3: And I think at that point.

473
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Speaker 4: In my life I had gotten to a point where

474
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Speaker 4: the voice was clear, and so when God was telling

475
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Speaker 4: me to do something, all right, I'm like, Okay, let's go.

476
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Speaker 1: Let get We're doing it.

477
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Speaker 3: So I started. I got back to New York, I

478
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Speaker 3: started looking up apartments.

479
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 4: I started like calling people, and the next time I

480
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Speaker 4: went to LA I just didn't take that flight back.

481
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

482
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Speaker 2: So you talked about building your toolbox. What are some

483
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Speaker 2: of the tools that you took from working in corporate

484
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Speaker 2: America to be an entrepreneur and what impact did it

485
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Speaker 2: have on you?

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. So you know, one of the things

487
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Speaker 3: that I took was like, and this word get thrown

488
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Speaker 3: around a.

489
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Speaker 1: Lot, like humility and being humble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I learned that, Like, I don't want to be humble,

491
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, and in corporate America

492
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: you can't be like humble, and you know, so you

493
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: have to like ask for what you want.

494
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Speaker 3: You have to say.

495
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Speaker 4: The thing, now, the part of the humility that I

496
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: like is that you can be kind and considered and

497
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Speaker 4: show grace. But if people don't know, like what you're

498
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: capable of and what you can do, and like what

499
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: tools that you have, and.

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Speaker 3: It'll get looked over over and over. Yeah it's the truth.

501
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: And so like I have this like love hate relationship

502
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Speaker 4: with the word humble, and in corporate America, I learned like,

503
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Speaker 4: put humble you know underneath some stuff, you know that's real,

504
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: And I'm yeah, I can be kind, I can be considered,

505
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Speaker 4: I can be all the things. And speaking of kind, like,

506
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Speaker 4: I also learned that you can be kind, but you

507
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Speaker 4: don't always have to be nice, Yes, because nice will have.

508
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: You being taken advantage of.

509
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: It'll have people low balling you, It'll have people treating

510
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Speaker 4: you like you're lesson.

511
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Speaker 3: So I am kind, but I'm not always nice, you know.

512
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Speaker 4: So I think that's another thing. I learned how to

513
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 4: pitch my brand, So when you are I did so

514
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: many decks, And if you're not familiar with what a

515
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 4: deck is, the deck is when you kind of take

516
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: the thing. Say you're doing an event, and you kind

517
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 4: of take the event and you put it in like

518
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Speaker 4: a digestible package for people to be able to see

519
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 4: like what it is that you do, how they can

520
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 4: get involved, why they should get involved, And so I

521
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: learned how to do that really well. And that's what

522
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: helped me transition from that one that I paid for

523
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Speaker 4: to the one that got paid for.

524
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Speaker 3: Right. I knew from working in corporate America.

525
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Speaker 4: Okay, I need to take photos, I need to have

526
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Speaker 4: like notes, I need to invite certain people, and I

527
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 4: need to package this all up and then have it prepared,

528
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 4: because you have to prepare for what you're praying for.

529
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: So you can pray for something all the time, but

530
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: are you preparing for so when that thing walks up,

531
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Speaker 4: it's like, all right, you don't want to miss that

532
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 4: opportunity because you're not there.

533
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Speaker 3: So while I'm praying, I'm preparing.

534
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Speaker 4: And that was another thing that I learned in corporate America.

535
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Speaker 4: And I also learned because and people do this all

536
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Speaker 4: the time. They'll send one email and then they don't

537
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: get a response from that email and.

538
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, they don't want to do it.

539
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: But you are the one that needs something, So you

540
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: can't send one email and just beginning, you have to

541
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 4: be persistent, you have to follow up. You have to

542
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 4: find the best contact you have to do all of

543
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: your research, and you have to Sometimes you have to

544
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: call after you sit the email.

545
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to get a number in text. So

546
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Speaker 3: I learned.

547
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Speaker 4: Persistence and I think, but most of all, I learned

548
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Speaker 4: to advocate for myself, you know, which I used to

549
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: be so scared to do. Really yeah, yeah, like I

550
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 4: was a person who would uh, this story comes to mind.

551
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and tell. So I'm in a fraternity,

552
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: cap up the side, Fraternity Incorporated. Shout out to all

553
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: the nups out there. I'm in a fraternity and we

554
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 4: I was the president of n PHC, which is all

555
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 4: the divine, and I was simultaneously the vice president of

556
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Speaker 4: my chapter. And I remember I was sitting meetings and

557
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: I like, I've always been a creative, so I would

558
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: have all these ideas. And one of my profiles, one

559
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: of the older the ones that older me, they would

560
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: watch me in these meetings and.

561
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Speaker 3: They were like you always.

562
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Speaker 4: One day, like he got in my face, he was

563
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 4: like you always, I know you got something to say.

564
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: You never want to say what you what you have

565
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 4: to say, Like I can see it on your face.

566
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 4: You know you need to speak up for yourself and

567
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, oh, and that was basically

568
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: he was telling me, like what you think matters, and

569
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: it matters in this room. And so I had to

570
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: get out of that, like it doesn't matter if I'm

571
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: the youngest or if I'm the only person of color,

572
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: or if I'm the only guy or whatever it is

573
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: in a room, Like my voice matters, and if it

574
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: didn't matter, I wouldn't be in that place.

575
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: So true, Absolutely, that's so good.

576
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: So you went from working on the Obama campaign and

577
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Speaker 2: you went from a rooftop of a New York restaurant

578
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: to the White House. I was at this one, yeah, trail.

579
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Speaker 2: It was it was monumental, it was historic. It was

580
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: I think for every person that had the honor of

581
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: attending this event, it was something that made us believe

582
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: in dream bigger.

583
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: You know.

584
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: We sat on the lawn and looked at a building

585
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: that our ancestors built, died for. We sat on the

586
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: line of a house that a lot of us haven't

587
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: even been able to go to or even invited or welcomed,

588
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: you know. So to be welcomed in that way, and

589
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: for it to be a young black man that made

590
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: that happen for us was I got. I'm like trying,

591
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was.

592
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: It was amazing. What was that moment life for you?

593
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: You had your family there everywhere I turned, and then

594
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: people were texting like wait, I saw you, where'd you go?

595
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 2: Like we were all trying to catch up with each other.

596
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: It literally felt like a big family reunion. The food

597
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: was amazing. What was that moment life for you? Because

598
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: I know what it felt like for us.

599
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I was talking to somebody about this

600
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: just just just yesterday. It was out of body experience.

601
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: I felt like I was like covering above myself, watching

602
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: myself time. It wasn't until I stepped off the stage

603
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: and I don't know if you saw me, and I

604
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: like broke. I had like a breakdown from that was

605
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: when I came back into my body. I felt like

606
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: but the whole time, I just felt like I was

607
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: watching myself. And I think because I felt the weight

608
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: of that responsibility and I wanted to do it right

609
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: and I wanted to for us to be seen like

610
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: that love and so you know, I'm just so grateful

611
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: that it happened. I'm so grateful that, you know, people

612
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: like you just shared have that experience, and you know,

613
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: you're speaking about the things that I wanted.

614
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to give.

615
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: Us opportunity to make space for us to take up space,

616
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 4: and like also.

617
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: Not for nothing.

618
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: To your point, that place wouldn't be there if it

619
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: weren't for us, our literal blood, sweat and tears, and

620
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: so it's only right that we get to be celebrated

621
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: in that kind of way, in that space, you know.

622
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: And so that was my thought process, and it was just.

623
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: And I think a lesson or thing that I learned

624
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: and all of that is like somebody's.

625
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: Always watching you. Yeah, somebody's always watching you, and that thing.

626
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: People don't know that.

627
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: But that was like three years in the making, and

628
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: it came to me in a dream like I literally

629
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: I was walking passed through like where the Rose Garden is.

630
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: I was walking through there, and I had like deja

631
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: vu because I dreamed walking the exact same steps I

632
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: saw myself. I looked at the reflection of myself all

633
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: those things and it was happening again. And so that's

634
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: how I know it was divine. But for me, it

635
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: was like I wanted to create a space for us

636
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: to feel.

637
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: Seen on a massive scale.

638
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: And it taught me the lesson of like, always be

639
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: preparing for it because somebody someplace is watching what you're doing.

640
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: And that's that's what happened. Somebody at the White House

641
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: was watching at the same time I was dreaming.

642
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna add ooh, I was gonna ask you that.

643
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: That's powerful. Somebody was watching at the White House while.

644
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: I was dreaming.

645
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Yep, my goodness, so good, so good. So how did

646
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: that happen? The person that was watching reached out.

647
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I'm persistent. Anybody that knows me

648
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: would tell you trail is the follow up. King, I'm

649
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: gonna follow up and thenollow up and then follow up

650
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: on top of the follow up.

651
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm for real. Uh and I will

652
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: be following it up for your schedule, please, dude, think

653
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: and I'll be following up too. I need that bread schedule.

654
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: No, but okay, So I've been really blessed to have

655
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: a lot of incredible people in my life, a lot

656
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: of black women. To shout out to black women, you

657
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: all are like the backbone of society. Nothing moves without

658
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: black culture, but nothing really moves without black women.

659
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: So it was black a black.

660
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: Woman Joe Taka Edie who came to me, she's from

661
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: South Carolina, who came to me and was like, you

662
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: got some special brother.

663
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: That's what you know.

664
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: If you know, you notice how she talked, you got

665
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 4: some special brother, like you got something special. And I

666
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: was like, thank you, Joe Taka and you know, and

667
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: that's all she said at first.

668
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: And she was behind the scenes talking to people.

669
00:31:53,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: And then my fraternity brother Stephen Steve Benjamin was advisor

670
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: to the president.

671
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: He also was like, you know, whispering ears.

672
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: And for me, I was just calling anybody that would listen,

673
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: like I was under people social media, I was dming

674
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: some of them DM still unbread but it happened that

675
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: it happened, you know. But yeah, any email I was

676
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: sending the emails and so but I always made sure

677
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: again like kind. I was always kind to people. My

678
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: mom taught me that at a very early age. I

679
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: remember when I she would drop me off to school,

680
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 4: she would say, Trail, you treat the janitor the same

681
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: way you treat the.

682
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Press, absolutely saying and that all.

683
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: That's that's stuck with me my entire life. I've always

684
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: treated almost especially you know, people who I felt like

685
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: didn't also always get treated. You know, I've always made

686
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: a point to be kind to those people. And you know,

687
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: some of my biggest breaks have come from like somebody

688
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: who a lot of people might have overlooked that I

689
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: was kind to, that remembered my kindness and told somebody

690
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: else about me.

691
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: A big deal for me. I did PR.

692
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: Like in my many lives, I would say I also

693
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: did PR. And I remember my biggest thing. I got

694
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: a placement in Old magazine, which was huge, and that

695
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: placement came from me offering an assistant water somebody, the

696
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: assistant oftentimes nobody ever talks to, and I had you

697
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: know they you know, when you go visit office and stuff,

698
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: they make sure that you have the things that you need.

699
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: And I got another water, and I offered the assistant one.

700
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

701
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: And the assistant told their boss, who told the editor

702
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: who got me the placement.

703
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

704
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: And I have so many stories in my life like that,

705
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: where just being kind to somebody who needs a little

706
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: more kindness can can open a big door for you.

707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: That's good. That is so good. Wow, I'm still suck on.

708
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Somebody was watching while I was dreaming.

709
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, probably was literally while I was having

710
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: that dream. Somebody was like scrolling like who is this?

711
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: Brother?

712
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's crazy. What do you feel has

713
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: made your brand stand out? Because I feel like the

714
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: brunch let's call it brunch industry, you know, is.

715
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: Like very saturating.

716
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: But what has made your standout over all the other ones?

717
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: I think when God has given you a vision, God

718
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: will give you provision.

719
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Come on this, Okay, we're gonna add pastor to your

720
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: title because you're preaching right.

721
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was in the church for my

722
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: mom was my Southern school teacher, she was my vacation

723
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: Bible school teacher, she was my choir director.

724
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: I was in the church a lot.

725
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: So don't let this set fool you, like I know

726
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: my word, but no, it's real. Like when God gives

727
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: you a vision, God will give you provision. And so

728
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if it's a million people doing things.

729
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: I mean, look at benty Yes, like Rihanna has has

730
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: a billion dollar industry that everybody will say over saturated

731
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: that you can't turn anywhere without saying some makeup, But

732
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: it ain't fenty.

733
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: Hello, and then it has deals after deals with other

734
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: exactly just does everything, yes.

735
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: And I feel like we live you know, we were

736
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: talking about this. I don't operate in a scarcity mindset.

737
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: We live in an infinite you know, there's enough of

738
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: everything for everybody three times three and four times over.

739
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 4: So I I've always been lived by that, like there's

740
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: enough for me and so, but I think there are

741
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: a couple of things that that that differentiate the brunch

742
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: from other brunches, right, one is like the heart of it,

743
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: And I think that you should hone it like you know,

744
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: the know your why and the tension behind your why

745
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: before you start anything, and be really firm on that.

746
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: And I have been, like I've said.

747
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: No to six figure deals because it wasn't it wasn't

748
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: the heart that's so good. Yeah, you got to keep

749
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: your integrity. You got to keep the integrity of your brain.

750
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: Like how many place fast food restaurants did you used

751
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: to love and then when it got too big, they

752
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 4: messed with the integrity and now it's not good. And

753
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing with your brain. You

754
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: got to treat your brain like that. You got to

755
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: keep being integral about it. And so for me, like

756
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: I am, I know that my nose make way for

757
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: my yesis so I'm not afraid to say no to anything,

758
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 4: and that has has really helped the brand, like being having.

759
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: Those clear boundaries, you know.

760
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: I feel like another thing about a brand is like

761
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: having something that's recognizable.

762
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: So the all white really helps too.

763
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: And for me, it wasn't about like making a brand,

764
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: It was more so about I put us in all

765
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: white because I wanted the concentration to be on the

766
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 4: beauty of our melonis.

767
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: So I didn't want anything distracting us from that.

768
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: I wanted people to see, like the beauty of your skin,

769
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: because it is about celebrating blackness. And blackness isn't because

770
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: of black excellence, isn't because of all the accolades that

771
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: you received.

772
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: You were born. That is a birthright that we have.

773
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: And I teach my sister to teach her sons, like,

774
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: we didn't come like people are like, oh, yeah, they

775
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: brought slaves over to American. No, they brought doctors and

776
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: lawyers and engineers and all these things like we and

777
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: kings and queens. We were born into royalty. That's our

778
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: that's our ancestors, you know. So I wanted the concentration

779
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: to be on the beauty of like all of the

780
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: different shades of us. So that's another thing that has

781
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: helped the brand. But I also think consistency and consistency

782
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: is probably you know, paramount with any thing, any brand building.

783
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: You have to be consistent, you have to continue to

784
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: show up. That's the thing that a lot of people

785
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: struggle with.

786
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, it is.

787
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: What is the legacy that you want to leave behind

788
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done, especially with this brunch,

789
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: because it's ours, it's building a legacy of its own.

790
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: That's such a like, Ah, you know, I want the

791
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: legacy of Black Excellence Brunch and of myself just to

792
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: be that like.

793
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: People felt safe and seen.

794
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: And affirmed around me and in the Black Excellence Brunch,

795
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: because I believe that when people feel seen and affirmed,

796
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: they're able to show up more authentically. And when you're

797
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: able to show up more authentically, you you can walk

798
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: your path, because our path is as unique to us

799
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: as our thumbprint. And you can only get what's for

800
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: you by being you, Like I can only get what's

801
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: for traill by being trilled. I can't get what's for

802
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: traill trying to be crystal. And so when you show

803
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: up authentically you can collect all the things that are

804
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: for you and so and when you feel safe, you're

805
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: able to do that, yes, right, Yeah, And so I

806
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: want people to feel a little safer and a little

807
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: more affirmed and a little more scene when they're around

808
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: me or when they're in spaces that I've created.

809
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

810
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: So something that I'm really interested to know about is

811
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: the day of a big event, the day of your brunch,

812
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: because I've thrown parties and I know how stressful it

813
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: is the things that happen. What is one of the

814
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: craziest things that's happened where you're like, oh my god,

815
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: this is gonna happen, Like are we going.

816
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: To even be able to have the brest today? Because

817
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: I know you probably need a reality show just around them.

818
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: There's so many, but there's one that I could think

819
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 4: about it and I can talk about it now, but

820
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: for a long time I couldn't talk about it. So

821
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: we were in Austin, Texas, my first time in Austin,

822
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: Texas at Afro Tech.

823
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: I was so excited to be there. We were doing

824
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: this brunch at.

825
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: This place and they told us like, hey, you know,

826
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: we have like, you know, a semi kitchen, so you know,

827
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 4: basically when that happens, like the chef prepares the food

828
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: and then you come bringing in there you warming, that happens.

829
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: That's okay, we get there. It is a parking garage,

830
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: there is the outlets.

831
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: Don't work in there. You can't have a brunch without food.

832
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 4: And the chef thought like, oh, I'm gonna make the

833
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: eggs in there because we didn't have any We didn't

834
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: have any food, we didn't.

835
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: Have any way to warm it up.

836
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: We were down there buying we were buying hot plates

837
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: to plug them up. I had to run an extension

838
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: court up step to plug in the hot place. The

839
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: other chef was at at this Airbnb cooking the food,

840
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: driving back and forth to bring I mean, it was

841
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: insane all above. You know, the music is playing, people

842
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: are like, oh yeah, I'm down there running back and

843
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 4: forth hosting.

844
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Black Exis.

845
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: But we're so glad for you to be run downstairs

846
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: putting on gloves like and it.

847
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Was wild, wild, and so that was a moment.

848
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: While it's just like, I don't know, And honestly, the

849
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: White House was a very big undertaking because you can't

850
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: do anything.

851
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of checks and balances, as you can.

852
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: They were every like even like the Secret Service. Yeah,

853
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: it was a lot. It was so much. I was like,

854
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: I remember, I just remember working on the hill. It

855
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: felt like that all over again.

856
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

857
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: So that was, you know, navigating that space. And I

858
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: didn't like everybody. I didn't want And it's the same

859
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: with the brushes, Like I wanted, yeah, people that you

860
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: recognize and know and love like yourself there. I also

861
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: wanted people that may have never gotten the opportunity to come,

862
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: you know. So I invited some people from South Carolina

863
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: who you know, probably never even been in a state building.

864
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: Let alone the White House.

865
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: So navigating that space and like you know, making sure that, Yeah,

866
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: my family was there.

867
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: My dad, my dad does not talk and he would

868
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: not shut up, like he was inside the light. I

869
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: was like taking pictures of everything. I think my dad

870
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: took a picture of the floor. What you're gonna do

871
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: with that?

872
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I wanted people to have that experience,

873
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: and so navigating that was like, oh my gosh. And

874
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: and you know, not only that I was building the program,

875
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: I was you know, figuring out like the food and

876
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: all those things. So doing it at that scale for

877
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: three thousand people, and also trying to make sure like

878
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: even you know, including like even the smallest people from

879
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: the smallest town.

880
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: I mean there's no small people, but you know.

881
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: People from small town wouldn't get those you wouldn't get

882
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: those opportunities to make sure those people were included as well.

883
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: It's just that was that was a huge undertaking.

884
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine. But Austin takes a cake that was,

885
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. Yeah, and you but you handle it.

886
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: You kept pushing matters. Yeah.

887
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 4: And and a lady that that I was, that one

888
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: was with uh door Dash and the same lady went

889
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: to another company and she We're doing a Black Exce

890
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: brunch together in a few weeks.

891
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: So that's why I can talk about it because I'm like, Okay,

892
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: they did nobody do.

893
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you pivoted. I love that.

894
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: I want to know more about trail. So you have

895
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: these amazing brunches. You've had an incredible impact on our

896
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: community and culture. What does Treill do to stay grounded

897
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: after all these monumental moments.

898
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: You're gonna laugh at this, and maybe you won't, but

899
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: I take you baths and it's not like you're like

900
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: oh yeah, you take about everybody takes a bath, but no,

901
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 4: I make it a thing. I get the candles, I've

902
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: burned incense, I dimmed the lights, I have the music on,

903
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: I have bath bombs, Like I really make it the more.

904
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: And that has become like my recentering moment. And I

905
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: was just sitting there and I think and yeah, run yeah.

906
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: I was literally like I was finding the name. Yeah,

907
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: it's my rare run moment. And I just sitting there

908
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: and it resets me and it just calms me. And

909
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: in that you know time, I'm just thinking about that

910
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: because I've tried like every way to meditate, and I'm like,

911
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: my mind is just soul, it's always going. But and there,

912
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's just it's so calmon.

913
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: So I do that.

914
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: And I like to travel, so I take trips.

915
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: It's one of your favorite places to get.

916
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: My favorite places. I have to say, I don't know

917
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 4: if you have been to Ghana.

918
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: I have not. I've only been to Ghana.

919
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: Like when you're talking about it just felt like a

920
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: big hug from your grandma being there. From the moment

921
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: I stepped off the plane, I just felt like embraced

922
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: in a way that I have never felt. Wow, so

923
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: like that Ghana has to have been one of my

924
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: favorite trips. I also really love like London is my

925
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: spirit city, and I think London holds such a special

926
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: place in my heart because if you haven't realized at

927
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: this point, I'm a risk taker. And I booked a

928
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: trip to London like on my twenty seventh birthday. The

929
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: night before the trip, oh wow, by myself went and

930
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: I had the time of my life. And it was

931
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: my first thing, my first like solo trip. It was

932
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: like a you know, what's that thing? Love eat prayer,

933
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: eat pray love. It was that for me, and so

934
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: ever since then, I've just had such an affinity for London.

935
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Really.

936
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: I went to London in December, and I guess it

937
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: was no One told me that wasn't a great time.

938
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: To go because old and it rains.

939
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 4: I was like, well, thank you, yeah, but it's so

940
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a vibrant city.

941
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: The fashion is top tier. Like you just I just.

942
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: Feel so cool, like Sherlock Holmes. I mean, I'm James

943
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: Bond like walking down the street.

944
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

945
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: I love that you are known for creating safe spaces

946
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: for other people.

947
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: How do you curate your own safe space? Listen boundaries.

948
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: People talk a lot about boundaries.

949
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: I have really set like firm boundaries around myself and

950
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 4: it comes with like learning. You have to learn yourself

951
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: to know like what you're willing because I used to be.

952
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: I'm a virgo too, So if you know anything about Burgos,

953
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: it's very people pleasing signs.

954
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: We want people to be happy. So mother Teresa is

955
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: a Virgo.

956
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: Like Michael Jackson, Beyonce, Kobe Bryant, Tyler Perry. Yeah, so

957
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: like we're very much people who want people to to

958
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: feel safe and seen and loved, and sometimes that comes

959
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: at the risk of like not seeing and affirming and

960
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 4: loving yourself. And so I creating that safe space has

961
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: looked like me creating boundaries, me saying no when I

962
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: mean no, saying no and letting that be it. Not

963
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 4: no because not no, but not no, maybe just no no.

964
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: You know that has attribute to me creating a safe space.

965
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: Also just.

966
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: Doing things with love, you know, like I don't do

967
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 4: anything like I wouldn't be here today if I didn't

968
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: have a love for you and what you're doing and

969
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 4: what you create, and so like I do things from

970
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: a space of love. And when you do things from

971
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: that space, it always turns out beautiful every single time.

972
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: If you operate from love, don't operate from greed, don't

973
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: operate from transactional, don't operate from you know, trying to

974
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: get a leg, jealousy, anger, Don't.

975
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: Operate from those spaces.

976
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: Operate from love, and I promise you the outcome every

977
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: time will be so beautiful.

978
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

979
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: If you could name a lesson or an affirmation that

980
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: lives rent for in your head, what would it be.

981
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: Leave it better than you found.

982
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: It, leave it better than you found it. I enter

983
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: every space with intention to leave it better than I

984
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: found it, and I've showed up before. I anytime I

985
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: go to a table, like, I'm always bringing something to

986
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: the table, you know, like what can I bring? Because

987
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to be the person who just comes

988
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: and takes.

989
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: Something from somebody.

990
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: You know, there's enough takers out there, Like be a

991
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: giver and what you don't know, a lot of people

992
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: don't realize when you give, you also get a lot.

993
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: And so for me, I'm like, I'm gonna leave it

994
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: better than I found it because I'm gonna come with.

995
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: Something I love that that is so good.

996
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: Now, music is a big part of everything that you built,

997
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: because when you come to your events.

998
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: The nineties hip hop and R and B. That's my

999
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: nineties vibe.

1000
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Yes, If you had a piece playlist where if you're

1002
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: centered in a list that brings you peace, what would

1003
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: be one song that has to be on that play?

1004
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: Oh my god, The Conquering Lion by Lauryn Hill. It's

1005
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: on her MTV Unplugged album. That song is short, but

1006
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: it is so powerful.

1007
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: Man.

1008
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: I play that song like anytime I need like your juvenation,

1009
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: anytime I need the reminder of who I am, anytime

1010
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: I need like that to feel spoken to. The Conquering

1011
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: Lion by Lauryn Hill. If you have not heard that song,

1012
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 4: were my camera right here. If you haven't heard The

1013
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: Conquering Lion by Lauryn Hill, please do yourself a favor

1014
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: and listen to that album. When you talk about love

1015
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: being poured into something, she pours so much love into

1016
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: that unplug and it was so utic. She let her

1017
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: voice crack, she cried, she started songs over like that

1018
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: whole album was amazing and it just taught me so

1019
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: much about like another Virgo trait, the chase of perfection,

1020
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: like you don't it doesn't have to be perfect, but

1021
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: it has to be real.

1022
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: Yes, that's because I struggle with that man.

1023
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: But it doesn't.

1024
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't happen because in our imperfection, we are made perfect.

1025
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: And somebody will catch that, right.

1026
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: I caught it.

1027
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm serious, and so you know, like, yeah, you are

1028
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: a perfection. This is personal right now.

1029
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: God, this is like literally got everything is aligned and

1030
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: this is guy's time.

1031
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: Everything you said today I needed to hear it. Oh

1032
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm just grateful. Thank you.

1033
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: So so before we get out of here, I love

1034
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: to play a little game.

1035
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.

1036
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a game of this or that brunt

1037
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: edition all right, Okay, Mimosa or Bellini Strength and Grits

1038
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: or fishing grits, fishing grits all right. Now we're from

1039
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: the South. Now, this next one is gonna be a

1040
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: little tricky. Grits with sugar or grits with salt.

1041
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: Don't you put no sugar in my grits. Don't put

1042
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 4: no sugar in my grits. I don't want oatmeal. I

1043
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 4: want grits passion.

1044
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I wanted sugar and butter.

1045
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: But now that I'm an adult, I like savory grits. Yeah,

1046
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: savory for sure. That is hilarious.

1047
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: Frieda eggs or scrambled eggs, scramble bacon or sausage.

1048
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't eat meat anymore, but I was a bacon guy.

1049
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: Bacon was a bacon and pepperoni was the hardest thing

1050
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: for me to give up.

1051
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't eat pork, but I still eat pepperoni. See,

1052
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: because that turkey pepperoni don't hit the same.

1053
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Some people feel like like bacon when they say I

1054
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: don't eat pork.

1055
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: When I eat bacon, they don't feel like it. Count

1056
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: don't meat.

1057
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: For a long time, and somebody was like, no, come on, yeah.

1058
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: That is funny wallface or pancakes.

1059
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: That's toughcakes.

1060
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: You know, chicken and waffles is like a staple, brusting pancakes.

1061
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: I like, I'm with you, Yeah, sweet or savory savory?

1062
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: You want a vibes playlist or a live band? A

1063
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: live band, Yes, I like that. L thank you so much.

1064
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: Thank you literally been a blessing so much.

1065
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: I love you.

1066
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: I love you too, and I wish you many more

1067
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: successful black excellence brunches and whatever they may turn to

1068
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: something else even bigger.

1069
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: I pray that it just goes bigger and bigger and bigger.

1070
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 2: Seriously, and I can't wait to watch it and watch

1071
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: you do amazing things.

1072
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you.

1073
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: Oh see that. Can we pray? Can I pray for you?

1074
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: God?

1075
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: I just want to say, thank you so much for

1076
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: this opportunity. Thank you for this safe and beautiful in

1077
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: the firming space that Crystal has provided. Thank you for

1078
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: the doors that are opening. Thank you for the things

1079
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: that are happening. Lord, we just blessed the ask you.

1080
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: Just bless everything that her hand touches, every place that

1081
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: her feet goes, and we asked you open all the

1082
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: doors and need to be open and closed. All the

1083
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: doors need to be closed because we also know that

1084
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: Crystal is an amazing steward over everything that you had

1085
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: given her. Bless her staff, Bless everybody that is around

1086
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: this show, and bless everything that she puts her hands to.

1087
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: In your name, we pray, Amen, I love you.

1088
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: For today's Crystal's closet, I am wearing a matching denim

1089
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: set from Zara The top is a Gnom vest with

1090
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: gold detailed buttons. My shoes are blue rubber Otega Vanetta Sandals,

1091
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: super comfy and my signature Georgian.

1092
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: Sweeties.

1093
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: Are you prepared for what you're praying for? Thank you

1094
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: all so much for spending time with me today. Please

1095
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: don't forget to like subscribe so that you don't miss

1096
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Speaker 2: any of the impactful guests that we have planned for

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Speaker 2: season eight. And always remember, if opportunity doesn't knock, build

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Speaker 2: a door.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you all next time.