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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John

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Speaker 2: Middlecoff three and OW Podcast. Just watched a little Thursday

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Speaker 2: night football. The green Bay Packers are red hot. They

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Speaker 2: traded for Mike Caparsons. They're two to zero. The score

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Speaker 2: doesn't quite even reflect what they dominated the Washington Commanders tonight.

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Speaker 2: That was an ass kicking. So two home games, two wins.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay looks like, if not the best team, one

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Speaker 2: Will dive into Washington as well. Some other stuff going

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Speaker 2: It's actually not funny, the Chiefs, the Eagles, Mike McDaniels,

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Speaker 2: Stucky joins us as he does every Friday, so recorded

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Speaker 2: funny part about the NFL is even when a game,

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Speaker 2: and to me the major difference with the NFL in

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Speaker 2: In college, typically the score reflects it. Now, not every

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Speaker 2: game a NASS kicking is sixty to nothing in college,

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Speaker 2: that the green Bay Packers tight end Tucker Craft, had

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Speaker 2: Because that defense tonight, the speed in which they played,

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Speaker 2: And they were engulfing him to night and play after

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Speaker 2: back is okay. Kid Like Cliff said good luck. I'll

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Speaker 2: Parsons went right around him. And let's face the Cliff's

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Speaker 2: Don't respect the scheme. I think it is extremely soft.

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Speaker 2: But their quarterbacks so good they can overcome it. The

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Speaker 2: definitely Cliff over the years, when you play physical fronts,

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Speaker 2: matter who they're playing. But when you play this spread

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Speaker 2: it's on like Donkey Kong. And that's what was happening

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Speaker 2: this is not possible. He gets pinched. And when you

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Speaker 2: have expectations. I've say this all the time, bad teams,

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Speaker 2: this year, and obviously Mike is on the upper echelon

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Speaker 2: always mix and match different people, whether it's Ron Wolf

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Speaker 2: like you know, uh, they're like a matchmaker of putting

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Speaker 2: these guys together. Then they get along and it just

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Speaker 2: kind of works. Laflour went nuts early in the game

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Speaker 2: when the guy screwed up the field goal, you know,

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Speaker 2: go for a situation. I remember going to a Titans practice.

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Speaker 2: It would have been Mike Vrabel's like first OTAs and

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Speaker 2: I was there for I've told this story before for

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Speaker 2: like a bachelor party, but I went like a four

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Speaker 2: or five days early. I had John Robinson, the former

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Speaker 2: GM on the podcast, played a little golf, screwed around,

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Speaker 2: checked out in Nashville. But I remember Laflour was kind

439
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Speaker 2: of this, you know, young up and comers, this first

440
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Speaker 2: ever offensive coordinator job, thinking like god, this guy's a

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Speaker 2: pretty big red ass. He was screaming at people. That

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Speaker 2: was like Mariota. They had Dion Lewis, Derrick Henry, that

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Speaker 2: was before Derrick Henry was good like Luwaan. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they had some good players, but I just remember this guy.

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Speaker 2: And I've been to a lot of NFL practice, you know,

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Speaker 2: some offensive coordinators, like if you go to a forty

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Speaker 2: nine or practice, Kyle Shan has not screaming at a

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Speaker 2: bunch of people. You know, you go to a lot

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Speaker 2: of practices like Gruden would scream at people. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to think, like you know, even Hardbough, Greg Rom and

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Speaker 2: it was it wasn't screaming at you. You went there

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Speaker 2: as like laflor was just screaming at people. And sometimes

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Speaker 2: he's kind of got that in him. He's got attle

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Speaker 2: edge to him. I've Lafloor's really grown on me over

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Speaker 2: the year. So props the Packers big win, and I'll

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Speaker 2: all say this, I give you a little grace. You

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Speaker 2: should lose this game. If you are a road team

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Speaker 2: on Thursday Night football week two or week twelve, that's

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Speaker 2: really difficult. And when you are a road team on

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Speaker 2: play Miami or Carolina or you know, you have to

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Speaker 2: get on a plane and fly several hours. That is

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Speaker 2: not easy because you basically throw a white flag to Wednesday, right.

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Speaker 2: You work out Monday Tuesday, and then you travel Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: So they get all of way to kind of do

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Speaker 2: like slow walk through stuff and just operate a little

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Speaker 2: more normal. It is a massive advantage to be the

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Speaker 2: home team on Thursday night. It's a enormous advantage when

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Speaker 2: you get later in the season, so you get a

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Speaker 2: little less room for me to like give you a

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Speaker 2: free pass. But on the road Thursday night football, Green

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Speaker 2: Bay not an easy spot. But this is where also

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are questioning. You know, Washington a

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Speaker 2: little fluky last year, won those one score games like stuck.

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Speaker 2: He had mentioned all the fourth downs they got, what

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Speaker 2: they weren't all like fourth and inches. So it's gonna

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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, I'm not writing you off I do think

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Speaker 2: though the longer Cliff you know his offense historically, like

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Speaker 2: a couple other things around the National Football League rap

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Speaker 2: Brock Purty is out two to five weeks, which I

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Speaker 2: gotta be honest, I'm I'm not questioning his reporting. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's he's a big jay and he's great at his job.

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Speaker 2: I like little rap sheet, but two to five is

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Speaker 2: kind of weird. It's like that could be like a week,

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Speaker 2: it's like six to eight, one to two. John Lynch

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Speaker 2: came out today and said they're viewing it more week

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Speaker 2: to week. I do think this Purty was good last week,

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Speaker 2: like obviously through the game winning touchdown. He just had

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Speaker 2: a really good game. Except he did throw two interceptions.

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Speaker 2: I thought one of them was really bad. The other

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Speaker 2: one was just good defense. But he was really good

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Speaker 2: last week. And Kittle gets Kot in the game, so

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have him for a long stretch of the game.

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Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings gets hurt like it was impressed about it,

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Speaker 2: but perty's a really good player. When you pay a

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Speaker 2: guy a lot of money, though, Like, here's the one

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Speaker 2: concern I have for Brock when it comes to just

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Speaker 2: the long term view. He's kind of been hurt a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I think Patrick Mahomes, I think Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: I think Lamar Jack. These guys miss games. What are

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Speaker 2: they ever missing? I was thinking I was watching something

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Speaker 2: last night on Devin mccorty. This clip came up, like

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Speaker 2: Devin talking to Florio. So I just googled Devin mccorty

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Speaker 2: and I went to his game log page for his

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Speaker 2: career and I was like adding it up. This guy

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Speaker 2: he played like twelve thirteen years. I'm pretty sure he

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Speaker 2: missed like four total games. A huge part of football,

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Speaker 2: whether you're Tom Brady, Payton Manning, or whether you're just

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Speaker 2: a safety like mccordy, is your availability. And I don't

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Speaker 2: blame no player wants to get injured, of course not.

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Speaker 2: But he's had some Like he got injured a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, missed three games in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the season. Obviously got injured in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: He got injured here. It's just a little concerning, especially

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Speaker 2: when it comes out of the game. It was just like, hey,

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Speaker 2: this freaky thing the guy landed on him. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: he threw the game win, he touchdown, he came back

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Speaker 2: in the game, did victory formation, and then the next

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Speaker 2: day you say he's got a toe and a shoulder.

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Speaker 2: I just that's tough. But this is also why they

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Speaker 2: kind of value the backup quarterback position. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers who love this guy, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 2: Brock's really good, credible story meshes great with Kyle, gave

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Speaker 2: him a bunch of money for two of the last

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Speaker 2: three years. Like they've taken the backup quarterback job pretty seriously.

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Speaker 2: Three years ago it was Sam Darnold. They love the guy,

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Speaker 2: and this year was Mac Jones, someone that Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 2: really wanted to draft a number three overall when they

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Speaker 2: kind of talked him out of to go with Trey Lance.

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Speaker 2: Neither pick would have been good. But I do think

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Speaker 2: this is this is also why you pay Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: I said, it's about Ben Johnson. If the Caleb thing

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Speaker 2: is a disaster, which still got a ways to go,

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Speaker 2: not looking great, but that's why he gave Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: five years thirteen million dollars a year, because the offense

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Speaker 2: is his baby and he's gonna figure it out. He's

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Speaker 2: worked with countless different quarterbacks. We know Shanahan has won

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Speaker 2: games with a ton of different guys, and it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be really hard because, arguably, especially right now, their best

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Speaker 2: player on offense is George Kittle, who has to pulled

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Speaker 2: hamstrings out a month. And Christian McCaffrey got more touches

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Speaker 2: last game in terms of rushing attempts and pass targets

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Speaker 2: then he had since like twenty twenty two. It's like,

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Speaker 2: you can't ride this guy like he's secretariat when he

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Speaker 2: just basically missed all season last year with Calves and

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Speaker 2: Achilles and his cabs still hitting up. So Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 2: mac owns and this is where you get a lot

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Speaker 2: of credit as an organization. We'll talk about Philly here

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Speaker 2: in a minute. When teams are willing to spend big money,

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Speaker 2: like Robert Sala was on the fence, he was thinking

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Speaker 2: about going to different couple of places, and the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers gave him a ton of money. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's a decent chance he's the highest paid defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: if not tied with Fangio. Is the guy making the most,

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Speaker 2: and he carried him in the first game in terms

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Speaker 2: of like random guys making big plays, and you got

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Speaker 2: to invest in your coaching staff when you have the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to get big time coaches, because you're gonna have injuries.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're watching tonight, guys were dropping like flies.

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Speaker 2: It's like, we got a guy carted off, we got

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Speaker 2: Eckler terarn his achilles. No grant, it's Thursday night game.

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Speaker 2: But this is a consistent theme in the NFL. Just

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Speaker 2: you just watch a random game, it feels it'd be

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Speaker 2: stunning if the cart doesn't come out once a game

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00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: and how many times, you know, six seven guys throughout

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00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: the course of the game go to the tent. Now,

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00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: a large percentage of those guys come back, but sometimes

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Speaker 2: they don't. Sometimes the guy's questionable. You saw to night

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Speaker 2: red shoulder boom out, Wise knee out, Eckler achilles out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are probably out. I mean, Reid

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Speaker 2: might be missed. I don't know if he tore broke

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Speaker 2: a collar bone, five six, seven weeks. The other two

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Speaker 2: guys out for the season. So it's just like that's

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Speaker 2: how fast it happens. So that's where you really got

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Speaker 2: to rely on your coaching because right now you only

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00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: got so many options practice squad guys. You gotta coach

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Speaker 2: these guys up and no one's gonna feel sorry for you,

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Speaker 2: and no one's gonna make any excuses. Wow, we had

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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys injured. Yes, part of the league. Now,

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Speaker 2: obviously some teams have more guys injured than other people.

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Speaker 2: But this is why I bet on the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers to be pretty good this year. Was their schedule, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's like Mac Jones, Spencer Ratler, Godspeed, Buddy Chiefs and

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. There was a fantastic article on The Athletic

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Speaker 2: about the Philadelphia Eagles and how they operate financially and

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Speaker 2: essentially that Howie and Jeffrey they have over thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of their salary cap in twenty twenty five. In bed money,

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Speaker 2: we talk a lot about dead money. The Eagles have

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Speaker 2: a ton of dead money because guys like Jason Kelcey,

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Speaker 2: Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, these guys are retired. Well, you

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Speaker 2: got to pay a credit card, and when you buy

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Speaker 2: these guys or you know, extend their contracts, the Eagles

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Speaker 2: push it all down. So when these guys randomly retire

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Speaker 2: a little earlier than your thought, it all gets accelerated. Well,

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Speaker 2: you have to pay the bill. You've already actually paid

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Speaker 2: them in real money, But on your salary cap it

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Speaker 2: comes due and it doesn't matter because the whole premise

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Speaker 2: of this article is how willing Jeffrey Lurie is to

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Speaker 2: take his cash and manipulate the salary cap because he'll

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Speaker 2: give you big signing bonuses and then you push it

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Speaker 2: over the course of the cap. And this is what

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Speaker 2: I've never understood about the NFL. I understand and it's

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Speaker 2: in this article. It's basically like, you know, Cincinnati takes

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Speaker 2: a lot of shit. Pittsburgh Steelers are the same. They

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Speaker 2: don't pay these huse signing bonuses. And I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about it driving around today. You know, Jeffrey Louriy bought

637
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Speaker 2: this team in the late nineties, so the majority of

638
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: his life all he's known as chi Ching Chiching, Chiching.

639
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: The money flows as how we called it, it's called

640
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: interest free loans. We know the money's coming, we just

641
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: got to pay it later. We're not worried about, you know,

642
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: going belly up about not being able to make our payments.

643
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: We see the guaranteed money. I do think the roonies

644
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: and the Browns and some of these old school families

645
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: that have been in the NFL for so long. They're

646
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: wired like it was back in the day, and in fairness,

647
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: back in the day, sixties, seventies, the eighties, obviously, the

648
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: television money was way different. You were very predicated on

649
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: gate receipts and people coming in contracts. Even in the

650
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: documentary with Jerry Jones, that's like the mid nineties signing

651
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders these contracts. I think he got like a

652
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: ten million dollars signing bonus. So within twenty five thirty years,

653
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: the economics of the league have changed, I mean, gone

654
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: to a different universe money wise, but you know the

655
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: money's guaranteed and you know the money's there. So I

656
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: don't understand these teams not taking advantage of what the

657
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: Eagles are doing. Like the reason the Eagles have a

658
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: really good roster this year is because their owner is

659
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: willing to take money that he's getting from the league.

660
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to do anything like you're just getting

661
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: free money for the league being part of this television

662
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: revenue that's impossible to go over because the cap is

663
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: like not even fifty percent of that amount of money

664
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: that you're getting or right around there, so you have

665
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 2: so much room to spend because your other expenses, your

666
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: coaches don't cost that much relative to players, and no

667
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: one else in your building costs anything. So the Eagles

668
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: the reason, like this week they're favored, they should it

669
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: should have been a disaster. And as people are saying

670
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: in this article like that, they're just a team on tilt.

671
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: But if you're paying elite players and they're playing elite,

672
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. And that's what Howie and Jeffrey have done,

673
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: and that's why they come in like with a pretty

674
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: good chance to be a super Bowl type team again

675
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: because they are utilizing all this money the NFL is making.

676
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: I think a lot of teams it's crazy reading this

677
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: article are just like what are you doing with the money?

678
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: Like pocketing it, like putting it in a brokerage account,

679
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: Like you guys are all living in the biggest house

680
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: on the block. You got this asset worth billions of dollars.

681
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand not investing it back into the team,

682
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: especially when you get the opportunity to pay good players.

683
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: And it just shows you a lot of these owners

684
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: are not And here's the thing. It's not like Mike

685
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 2: Brown is like buying seven houses in Italy and has

686
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: some two hundred million dollar yacht park neck to bezos, like,

687
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: where's O the money going that he gets from the league.

688
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: I just don't quite get it. I think, and I've

689
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: said this forever, when you have the disease of being cheap,

690
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: even when you get to the wealth level of these

691
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: guys with guaranteed money coming in, you don't shake it.

692
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: It's a disease you do not shake. It's not curable

693
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: once you pass a certain point in your life. And

694
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: clearly some of these teams have it. And I'll give

695
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Clark Hunt and the Chiefs credit. They were notoriously known

696
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: for being a little cheap. I do think they have

697
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: done a better job. Obviously, Coach Reading and Patrick Homes

698
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: have inspired them. You know, SPAGS makes big money now.

699
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: Obviously they pay their players. You know, Carve Lostis just

700
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: got a huge contract. They paid multiple offensive linemen big contracts. Obviously,

701
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Patrick has ten years, four hundred and fifty million dollars.

702
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Who knows, you know, I mean, he's making so much.

703
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: The guy's just printing money. But I do think this

704
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: is I do believe in championship character, in championship blood.

705
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: Even though when you watch that game against the Charge

706
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't look great. I mean their defense got shredded offensively.

707
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, Worthies kind of up in the air right now,

708
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: and I felt bad. I thought some of Travis's comments.

709
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: He was just like, it's embarrassing for me. I'm a

710
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: thirteenth year pro. I know the landmarks to be at.

711
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: I gotta pay it. I can't run into him, and

712
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: obviously Travis a lot bigger than him. So if I'm

713
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: gonna run into him and take him out and I

714
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: hurt the guy, it sucks. It's like on me, especially

715
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: a guy that we really need. So it's like their offense.

716
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Everyone kept saying, like, what's up with the Chiefs offense?

717
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: It's not that complicated where they got hurt three plays

718
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: in and let's face it, their version of a star

719
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: receiver relative like justin Jefferson Jamar Chase, of course not,

720
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: but for she Rice relative to their teams really good

721
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: and he's suspended. So if I take away your two

722
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: top receivers and your tight ends old, and you know

723
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: you don't have a great running game, what do you

724
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: think it's gonna look like I could have John Elway

725
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: or Peyton Manning in their prime, Like you're not gonna

726
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: score that many points. So were these very very important,

727
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: But they like it's tough to start zero and two

728
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: because someone has to win between the Chargers and the Raiders.

729
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: And if the Chargers beat the Raiders on Monday night

730
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: and you were to lose, if you're the Chiefs, you're

731
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, This isn't basketball or baseball, so

732
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: like two games back whatever, it's early in the season football,

733
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like we're three and one,

734
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: you're one and three, Like it can get kind of

735
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: bigger than you think, really really fast. So there is

736
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 2: some pressure here on the Chiefs at home longer week.

737
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Obviously the Eagles did two, you know, to win this game.

738
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: And this is this where the championship character, the championship

739
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: medal and just the and they've done this a lot,

740
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: and this is why they parallel the Patriots so much.

741
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: The Patriots won a lot of weird, ugly games over

742
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: the course of their twenty years, not everything that This

743
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: wasn't like Alabama and their peak. I mean, this is

744
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: the NFL. Sometimes you got to pull games out of

745
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: you know what, and all of a sudden you look

746
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: up at the scoreboard and it's like, you know, twenty

747
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: three to nineteen. You're like, shit, we didn't even play good,

748
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: but let's we get take a win. And that's what

749
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs have to find a way to do. Obviously,

750
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter didn't get suspended. No, nor should you if

751
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: I agreed with you know, getting kicked out of that

752
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: game was basically he didn't play staff, so that that

753
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: might as well be a suspension. But you imagine he's

754
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: going to be motivated. Luckily for the Chiefs, you know,

755
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: their center and guard pretty good. But I'm pretty fired

756
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 2: up to watch that game a couple more things before

757
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: we get out of here. I do think we have

758
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: pretty early. This is gonna get ugly watch.

759
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

760
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: I would rank this team number two and a pretty

761
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 2: distant number from number one. But you know, Brian Callahan, listen,

762
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: he could play Denver ten times. In Denver, he's probably

763
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: losing that game ten out of ten times. His rookie

764
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: making his first start, like he's never winning that game,

765
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: but he's getting crushed for the sequence pinned up against

766
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: his own goal. Line for going three and out in

767
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: like the blink of an eye giving up a touchdown.

768
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: He clearly didn't know the rules. He even admitted it

769
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: with an elbow relative to knees, you know, for a catch.

770
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: It just the GM there Borgonzi that came from Kansas

771
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: City did not hire him. So anytime you have kind

772
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: of that overlap of like we just draft a quarterback

773
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: number one overall that I'm betting on being pretty good player.

774
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: I'm betting on at minimum at the end of the

775
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: season going You know, cam Ward is a guy that

776
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people would like to work with, a

777
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: lot of people would like to coach in Nashville. Incredible,

778
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: incredible place. Sign me up. If I was a coach,

779
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: I would go there yesterday. So it would be a

780
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: job that would have a lot of people lined up

781
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: with strong interest. So you got new GM, you got

782
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: this young quarterback, and there was some pressure on this

783
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: guy to start looking capable. Now I like him this

784
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: week plus five and a half. But I did the

785
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: same thing last year and they kept losing. So if

786
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: you tell me that the Rams beat the living you

787
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: know what out of him, I think that situation could

788
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: get a little weird for Callahan, and he could be

789
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: in one of those, you know, kind of rare positions

790
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: where it's like he's a two and done coach. Everywhere

791
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: I clicked over the last three or four days, my

792
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: YouTube algorithm, my Twitter algorithm, my Instagram algorithm, anything football

793
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: wise was about Mike McDonald or Mike McDaniel's sucking the

794
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: team's sucking them doing players only meetings after week one

795
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: to it's just it's pretty everyone's taken potshots and listen,

796
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: I take no joy. I feel a lot of guys

797
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: people are kicking him when he's down, Like I've been

798
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: making fun of this guy for a little bit for

799
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: just being like kind of an overrated media fabrication. I

800
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: do think some of the clips I I've seen, it's

801
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: become kind of sad, like I take less joy in

802
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: it now saying like this, guys, they're really terrible, They're

803
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: an embarrassment. But it's gonna get really ugly. And now

804
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: the masses have kind of swarmed in, and who knows,

805
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the Patriots aren't good, maybe they can pull

806
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: a game out of nowhere and all of a sudden,

807
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: the Dolphins win at home. But if you tell me,

808
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: they lose it home by a touchdown by ten points,

809
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: even if the Patriots aren't good. I just think this

810
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: thing's going to grow and grow and grow and get

811
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: so ugly. And the reality is these owners, you know,

812
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: they spend way more time at home watching TV, listen

813
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: to radio when they're driving around, having their buddies send

814
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: them articles like they're not at the office just locked

815
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: in a film room, kind of out of touch with reality. Right,

816
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: They are much more in touch with the fan base

817
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: read it. I mean they are dialed in of all

818
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: the conversation outside the building. So whether it's the guy's

819
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: kids telling them, I think that plays a huge rule

820
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: and I think Mike's clearly in major trouble. I want

821
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: to end on this. I got this DM on Instagram.

822
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: We do mail bags. We'll have one out this weekend

823
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: at John Middlecoff firing those dms. But it kind of

824
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: is an introduction to what I wanted to talk about.

825
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: And he said, John, I've got a weird question, and

826
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you can answer this, But with the

827
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: new kickoff rule, I've noticed almost every team using backup

828
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: running backs to return kicks. Does this have to do

829
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: with the new kickoff return becoming more of a run

830
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: play and with both teams lining up straight across from

831
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: each other five yards apart. And that's a great question,

832
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: because tonight you saw Deebo Samuel, who is widely considered

833
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: a wide back as in a wide receiver running back

834
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: combination in anyone who's been by Debo, he's built much

835
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: more like a running back than he is a wide receiver.

836
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: But he's Taylor made to do that. Now, granted he

837
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: did that in college. He's a good return man, but

838
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: if you look around the league, you are using players

839
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: who you would use on offense, not just special teams

840
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: only type guys to return kicks. And garaf Follo tweeted

841
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: out this week about this rule or about what's going on.

842
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: Early on in the season, the teams have seen the

843
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: impact of the kick return. The average starting field position

844
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: for the kickoff is basically the thirty yard line twenty

845
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: nine point seven and entering last night's game going into

846
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: Monday night, the highest in Week one since two thousand. Well,

847
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: this off season, one thing they did is the if

848
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: you get a touchback, it goes to the thirty five.

849
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: So if you're watching kickoffs throughout the weekend and watch

850
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: it this upcoming weekend. They are basically kicked in the

851
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: landing zone every time now because if I just kick

852
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: it through the end zone and you started thirty five,

853
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: you're one explosive play away from being at the fifty

854
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: yard line. So you're basically the kickoff and a good

855
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: offensive play from being at midfield with only one offensive play.

856
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: That's insane. The touchback used to be at the twenty

857
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: yard line, so to get to midfield, you would have

858
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: need several explosive plays, and even if you're not doing

859
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: explosive plays, it would take you, you know, potentially seven

860
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: eight plays to even gain thirty thirty five yards. Now

861
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: I screw up the kickoff, Boom, you're close to midfield.

862
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: So the rule change. And this is where the NFL

863
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: deserves a lot of credit. They are very proactive with

864
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: trying different stuff, and years ago, Belichick deserves flowers on

865
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: this one was like, we can't keep kicking the extra

866
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: point from the two yard line. It's like ninety nine

867
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: percent accurate. It's a wasted play. Why do we even

868
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: have collisions? So they moved it back and what happened.

869
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: It went from like ninety nine to like ninety one,

870
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: and that eight to nine percent difference is more impactful

871
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: because you're always like a little on your edge, especially

872
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: in the second half that a guy could miss the

873
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: pat well the kickoff rule and listen, a lot of

874
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: traditionalist coaches that have been around a long time did

875
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: not like it, and I get it because they thought

876
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: like it would just ruin the play. It just wouldn't exist.

877
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: Special teams was basically gonna go away. It actually has

878
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: resurrected special teams because no one participated in this. They

879
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: would just kick it through the end zone twenty and

880
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: then they even try to kick it through the twenty five.

881
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: They're like, whatever the twenty five, Well, you go to

882
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: the thirty five.

883
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Now.

884
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: It kind of makes me think, So, if you're gonna

885
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: force me to kick it into that little landing area,

886
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm not just gonna put some random guy like me

887
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: or you back there on on my fifty three manter roster.

888
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 2: It's like, debo, go back there, right. Whoever on your team,

889
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: the backup running back maybe like a you know, a

890
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: thicker safety or dB that has some return skills in college,

891
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: but we're gonna take that play very We're gonna take

892
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: that play seriously like an offensive play, and I would

893
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: imagine anyone, you know, the media, guys that go to

894
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: or if you as a fan, go to training camp,

895
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: that period is much more serious. In practice. You have

896
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: much more data now, but like the blocking area, if

897
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: you block it well, I really might only have to

898
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: make a guy or two miss right. You know, the

899
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: old kickoff speed was such a huge impact, you know,

900
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: having Dante Hall or Devin Hester or way back in

901
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: the day, Dion Sanders, guys like that because you got

902
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: this running head start and it was like I needed

903
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: a lane. Well now it's much more like a running

904
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 2: play where I need a gap. But I also shiftiness

905
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: and this is where the running back element comes in,

906
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: you know, breaking little arm tackles because the guy's not

907
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: running full speed, he's only running tennis yards and really

908
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: he's breaking or shedding a tackle that the guy's right

909
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: in front of him, you know, trying to trying to

910
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: just neutralize them. So I think the play last year

911
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: was kind of a work in progress. This year, with

912
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: the tweak of extending the touchback, you know, toward the

913
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: offensi's goal line has just kind of added some fireworks

914
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: And now I find this play used to just you know,

915
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: if you got up, you had to take a leak.

916
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: If you got if you came back and you missed

917
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: the kickoff, and you're like, oh, they're on the twenty

918
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: two yard line. You miss nothing. Now you kind of

919
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: feel like something could happen. I mean the night all

920
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Deba. I'm screaming Maria because she loves

921
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: Debo and he I thought he was first split second

922
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: thought he had a chance, but not quite fast enough anymore.

923
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: But he took it to like well past the fifty.

924
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: So he's a good example. I think a lot of

925
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: guys like him that are versatile players that are offensive

926
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: like you know, running backs or or have that skill

927
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: based in college, or are going to be utilized, you

928
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: know in that play. Okay, As as we headed into

929
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: week two, I know the people are excited because he's

930
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: back this season. He uh, he laid the foundation last

931
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: week week one, we were talking a little off air.

932
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: Is difficult, even college early on to get a feel

933
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: for you know, the transfer portal you got so many

934
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: new players can be difficult. But this man is locked

935
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: and loaded. My main man from the Action Network stuck.

936
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: You can find the Big Bets on campus, the Action

937
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: Network podcast, then just firing away tweets whenever games are

938
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: going on, Stucky, what's up, bro.

939
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: What's going on? And we're in the heart of the

940
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: grind now for the foreseeable future. So yeah, football's back.

941
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: It's just like a couple of days prep as much

942
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: as possible, try to find a nap, and then it's

943
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: like five days games. It's beautiful Thursday. We got Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

944
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: and then eventually we'll get some like Tuesday and Wednesday.

945
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: In Action. It's the best time of the year. So

946
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: it's good to be back.

947
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes I yesterday I crashed, Like sometimes Wednesday midweek, I

948
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: just really you know, you peak. You know, I tell

949
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: my wife like sometimes I gotta peak at night, so

950
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: you know, in the morning, kind of leave me alone

951
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: because we've got games going on. I gotta do reaction podcasts.

952
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: It's like you know, an NBA player, they take naps

953
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: in the middle of the day because I got a

954
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: peek at that tip off. That's that's how I view

955
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: a football season for my couch.

956
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: That's my my schedule. I'll like I'll watch games at

957
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: night and then I might lay down for like an

958
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: hour after all the games are over, and like maybe

959
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: midnight to one in the morning, and then I start

960
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: working at one in the morning, just going through as

961
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: many games as possible, and then I just go as

962
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: far into the day as I can until I just

963
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: need to take a little nap and then keep going.

964
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: Are you an Eastern time, Yeah.

965
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: And so like my schedule is during football is insane.

966
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Like I'll have sometimes I'll have like dinner at three

967
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: in the morning, so like there's no consistency to it.

968
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: I just try to go as long as I can,

969
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: and then Thursday's podcast day and Friday's cleaning everything up,

970
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: final bets and then.

971
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: So you basically live like a civilized domestic life, right,

972
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: you're married, you got a kid on the way, but

973
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: you also like live like you're in the casino.

974
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Yes, you know football in college basketball. Yeah, during like

975
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: the summer.

976
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 2: I used to that's nine months a year.

977
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, during the summer, so like April and then I

978
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: got to do a lot of prep work, but I

979
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: could do that like more normal hours like April, May, June, July,

980
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: part of August, like I'll sleep normal normal hours and uh,

981
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: although I'm always in night out well, and so is

982
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: my wife. We go to better like three in the morning,

983
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing going on. But and she works in the

984
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: bar industry, and I'm that'll always been that way, so

985
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: it kind of works. But then we like travel, I

986
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: hang out with her and I will you know, go biking,

987
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: eat healthy and but then football starts and it's then

988
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm betting the Titans. It's just irresponsible things.

989
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is important whoever your significant other is, to

990
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: have similar like life schedules. If it'd be difficult. I

991
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: remember in my in my youth, you know, you just

992
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: you dabble around Delilah's in Philadelphia, the Strip Club. It's like,

993
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: if you ever, you know, got into a serious relationship,

994
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: you realize the timing, you know, of their work, your

995
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: work are off. So it does help when you're a

996
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: normal older person and you're on the same schedule as

997
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: the other one, because it'd be it'd be difficult if

998
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: someone's up and you're trying to sleep or vice versa.

999
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: But uh, she found me on Twitter, followed me. We

1000
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: used to go back and forth and then that's how

1001
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: we met. So she knew what she was getting into,

1002
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: Like there was no Hoida and she bets so she

1003
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: she gets it, so like, I'm very lucky in that aspect.

1004
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay, let's uh, let's dive into some football. Obviously all

1005
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: lines here brought to you by hard Rock Bet and uh,

1006
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: let's start on on Saturday, which we actually got some

1007
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: you know, pretty good. I thought last week a little

1008
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: bit of a dud. I was just thinking about college football.

1009
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: You you probably live for like the UH on the

1010
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: East coast, the USC Michigan State in a week or

1011
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: two or whenever, that game is that eight o'clock kickoff

1012
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: that everyone's freaking out. You're like, this is this is

1013
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: right in my wheelhouse. And I used to remember when

1014
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: I lived in Philly and would go out on Saturday nights.

1015
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean back when I I could, I could hang

1016
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: and you'd look up at the TV at like one

1017
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: in the morning and it'd be the third quarter of

1018
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: Boise State versus Oregon State. You're like, this is awesome.

1019
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: Yes that I always tell people that I love that

1020
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: when I go out, Like I mean, I'm I'm married,

1021
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm watched up, I'm old, Like what what am I

1022
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to any girls at the bar. So

1023
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: like I want to be at the bar with a

1024
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: drink and then have money on a game watching a game.

1025
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: But even when I'm home and I don't go out,

1026
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: I am I have no matter what, no matter how

1027
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: bad the game is, I have to watch until the

1028
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: last game. Like so last week was like Hawaii Sam

1029
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: Houston State till like two to forty in the morning.

1030
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: But I like that part of it. Then hours are

1031
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: weird for me, so like it's easy to say when

1032
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: it's like that, but yeah, having a game on it

1033
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: one in the morning.

1034
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: That game's next week, right that everyone's bitching a moment about.

1035
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: Or is that in two weeks? Because I looked, I

1036
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: thought it was this week because everyone was up in orange,

1037
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: But it's not this week. I think it's in a

1038
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

1039
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's in two weeks.

1040
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I have a couple of rules

1041
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: I've developed if your game goes into a rain delay

1042
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: or a lightning delay or a hurricane delay, and it's

1043
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: not like the opening night of college football or I

1044
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: mean the NFL like the Eagles, where you just it's

1045
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: the only game on. But it happened in college it

1046
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: obviously happened in the NFL. I'm out. I'm just I'm out,

1047
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: especially if I don't have money or on my fantasy team,

1048
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: or you're not a team that I care about, and

1049
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to put any value in that game.

1050
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: And I also think in college, when people like oh

1051
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: USC might be good or so and so might if

1052
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: you've played nobody, I put no value. Like I know

1053
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: Penn State's good, so them, but but I'm not putting

1054
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: value in them. Just beating the shit out of people.

1055
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: That's what they should be doing. So when you get

1056
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: like Uga Tennessee or this week A and M Notre Dame,

1057
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: even USF like clearly they got a boise feel to them.

1058
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: They go on the road and they beat Florida, who

1059
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: might end up six and six and the coach might

1060
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: get fired in three or four weeks, but that is

1061
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: an incredible win, right, I mean, Florida's riding high. They

1062
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: start thinking, obviously probably looked ahead to LSU now looking back,

1063
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, but let's let's start there. I know

1064
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: you love it's you know you're in Kentucky, so you

1065
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: know you got the big school, especially basketball school. Carry

1066
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: yourselves like winners but you have a spent a soft

1067
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: spot for the little guy. And listen, I'm Fresno State,

1068
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: Pat Hill Boise State grew up at UC Davis, So

1069
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate when us f like that is an enormous

1070
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: moment for that human being. Honestly, it probably changed his life, right, So, like,

1071
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: if they go on to have a good season, like

1072
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: there's a pretty good chance he's coaching not just at

1073
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: like a decent school, like an elite school next year,

1074
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: Like you'd say, what right now, fifty to fifty chants

1075
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: that if he has a great season.

1076
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, could end up going to Florida. I mean he's

1077
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: building that program up fire and Brown, potential pro quarterback.

1078
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: He was just hurt last year. He was really good

1079
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: two years ago. But he's recruiting well, building up that

1080
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: roster already in South Florida. So would depending on what

1081
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: happens with Napier.

1082
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: Maybe can you go back to back weeks though, you

1083
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: know at Florida, this game's clearly harder at Miami, but

1084
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: they're getting seventeen and a half points. That number's pretty big.

1085
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: But also it's like, God, are they gonna run out

1086
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: of juice?

1087
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I played Miami here. It's a tough spot. Mine

1088
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: is coming off. But bye, they're obviously not going to

1089
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: overlook them, like they're ranked now. They just saw him

1090
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: beat Florida, which is an embarrassing loss, and South Flordia

1091
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: has had two back to back ranked wins. Like, it's

1092
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: not a deep team like that is this is a

1093
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: lot to ask their third straight ranked team. It's not

1094
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: a terribly deep team. It's still a group of five team.

1095
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: And they've already done what they needed to do. Like

1096
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: now they can just go ten and two, win the American.

1097
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: They can they can drop this game, they can drop

1098
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: one more. They win the American with the hardest non

1099
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: conference schedule in the country, three ranked teams, and they

1100
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: win the American, have a ranked win over Boise and

1101
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: a win at Florida. They're in. There's no one else

1102
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: that's that's passing them from the group of five. What

1103
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: does that mean here? Number one, they could wear down

1104
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: and they don't play to just keep it competitive like

1105
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: last year they got blown out in the second half

1106
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: imb they lost fifty to fifteen because they play fast

1107
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: and Goalsh is aggressive, but he's not just gonna be like,

1108
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, I want to lose by seventeen, like if

1109
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: they lose by twenty eight thirty five, He's fine with it.

1110
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: But I just so that they could really wear down here,

1111
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: especially in the second half, because Miam' is gonna be

1112
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: able to block them. Probably one of the best offensive

1113
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: lines in college football. Beck looked really good against Notre Dame.

1114
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: They have some really exciting weapons on the outside. On

1115
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: the defensive side, South Florida can't really run it. They

1116
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: lost a lot of backs from last year. That's kind

1117
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: of their weakness. Their running game is Brown their quarterback.

1118
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: But Miami's gonna be able to just drop back and

1119
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: coverage here. Take away the explosive play, which is all

1120
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: South Southwarda is. Their coach came from Tennessee, so their

1121
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: offense looks like the Tennessee offense. It's like wide splits.

1122
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: They go fast, they want to hit explosive plays, vertical

1123
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: shots downfield. MIA's gonna be able to play coverage and

1124
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: get pressure with their dns who are elite against their tackles.

1125
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: When South Farda is in passing downs, that's just gonna

1126
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: lead to like a lot of three and outs and

1127
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: Miam's gonna have the ball a Ton. It's a third

1128
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: straight ranked team, So I just see South Florida eventually

1129
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: falling apart and just wearing down. But if I'm South

1130
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: Florida and I'm looking at this, I know, I you know,

1131
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: I said nicolesh always plays to win. But you might

1132
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: just in the back of your head say, maybe let's

1133
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: not run Brown as much. He was hurt last year.

1134
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: You just need didn't stay healthy. You already did what

1135
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: you needed to do.

1136
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: Is he the is he genty for them? Like? Is

1137
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: he the guy that's just going to carry their team? Yes,

1138
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: I know he's a quarterback, but you know what I mean.

1139
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that boys again, he was like running over

1140
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: guys for like forty yard touchdowns. He had one call

1141
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: back that was on a on a BS holding. But yeah, well,

1142
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, it's it's over. But he's he's

1143
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: really special, so you might not run him as much here.

1144
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: Like he's gotten hit a lot the last two weeks,

1145
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: so like if they get down, it might be like, hey,

1146
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: let's try to end it to our backs a little

1147
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: more often. So I think Miami ends up pulling away

1148
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: here and winning by three touchdowns.

1149
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: Plus you know, obviously Florida just had not just a

1150
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: devastating loss, it'd be a rough loss at home to

1151
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: a non power for school. But to me, everything that

1152
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: was on the line, the hype coming in. You and

1153
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: I talked about him last week, like could they be

1154
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: a fringe playoff team? But there was the elephant in

1155
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: the room about the coach, like he was riding high

1156
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: after the end of last year and after Week one,

1157
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: but it flipped immediately back to what it was like

1158
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: at this time last year. So they're going to LSU

1159
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: that that game's kicking off, I mean, it's gonna be dark.

1160
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: That's a place where LSU probably feeling themselves. Listen, if

1161
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: you have LSU to win the national championship, this is

1162
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: obviously a pretty you know, historic rivalry in college football.

1163
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: These two teams play each other every year. But I

1164
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, I I seven and a half

1165
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 2: points a lot. But if LSU really is that good?

1166
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: What if this is when Florida kind of breaks like,

1167
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: is it inconceivable that this is like a forty to

1168
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: thirteen game and billion apers fired on Sunday or Monday morning.

1169
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see that l Like, so

1170
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: this is this year is wide of by way, like

1171
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: you could tell me. Usually it's like you gotta tell

1172
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: me one of three or four teams that are gonna

1173
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: win the national I think this year as of right now,

1174
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: this could change. And if this is because there's so

1175
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: many young quarterbacks, like all these a lot of these

1176
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: top teams have quarterbacks that we just don't know about.

1177
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: We do know about Nussmy at LSU, we know about

1178
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Aler Penn State, but a lot of the other top teams,

1179
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know, it's all they're all young

1180
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: guys more who hasn't really played much. So that's there's

1181
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: like eight teams you could tell me and I'd be like, okay,

1182
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: I can see it. So my pick as of right

1183
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: now is LSU. Now that's subject to change. And after

1184
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: watching Clemson last week, maybe that maybe that first game

1185
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: was more about Clemson than LSU. I mean Clemson. Basically,

1186
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: we were down sixteen to nothing at home Detroit and

1187
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: then the artist was equal at the end of the game.

1188
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: They got a couple turnovers in the second half and

1189
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: flipped it, but they look rough. Last week LSU against

1190
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech offense didn't look great. That running game is

1191
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: still not there, so the offense is still like a

1192
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: work in progress. I do think the defense is significantly improved,

1193
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: But I did that Florida plus seven and a half.

1194
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: Napier has done this before, he has. They might have

1195
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: been looking ahead a bit because they looked unfocused.

1196
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: How could they? How could they not because they're thinking

1197
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: they win this game? They're three and oh they're top

1198
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: fifteen team.

1199
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they took them lightly. Blagway is still really young.

1200
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: He has up and down games. He did this last

1201
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: year and Napier after some of these games roaring this season.

1202
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: His teams have bounced back. They will get a really

1203
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: really important piece back in Caleb Banks, one of the

1204
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: argued could be a first first round draftic wasn't played

1205
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: yet this year. I'm ninety percent sure he'll be back.

1206
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: They need him on the defensive line. Florida and there's

1207
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: a chance that LSU will be without their starting center,

1208
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: and if that's the case, they got to move over

1209
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: this kid, dj Chester, who's not an SEC caliber center.

1210
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: The original starting center was a transfer, was really good

1211
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: and was going to upgrade the position. He got hurt

1212
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: last week against LA Tech. This kid Schester was getting

1213
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: pushed back by La Tech's defensive line. And so if

1214
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: Banks is back and then and nus Meyer can't run,

1215
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: so he's not a mobile quarterback. That's the one kind

1216
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: of slight on him and what might hold him back

1217
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL because everyone is you want mobile guys. Now,

1218
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: if Florida can get pressure up the middle this LSU offense,

1219
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: this might end up being like a slog. So I

1220
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: think Florida bounces back here. I took the seven and

1221
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: a half. There's a chance that just look that LSU

1222
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: Clemson game is more about Clemson. So I'm gonna take

1223
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: the seven and a half by a little low in Florida.

1224
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: Arta might get a little healthier les, you might have

1225
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: some offensive LSU. Also, their tight end is probably gonna

1226
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: be outraded as green good red zone threat. So one

1227
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: of the nots Meyer's most reliable targets is out. So

1228
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: I took the seven and a half here. Napier has

1229
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: historically been pretty good as an underdog.

1230
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: I remember one of your bets last year was to

1231
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: start the year A and M to make the playoffs.

1232
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: Wasn't like seven or eight to one, and they were

1233
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: in the mix up until that last week. Uh, that

1234
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: first game of the season. I remember texting a buddy

1235
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's like that quarterback play. It was

1236
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard versus but what was his name, Wagonman or whatever.

1237
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: It ended up getting Bank who plays tomorrow night.

1238
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: He's the Houston starting quarterback.

1239
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, so I mean he he got bench. They

1240
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: up They upgraded obviously A and M. I mean they

1241
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: have been loaded since you know, Jimbo's the nil stared

1242
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: they started paying dudes. They have a really good roster.

1243
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: This is a must win spot for you know, Notre

1244
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: Dame getting six and a half at home or you know,

1245
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: favored by six and a half at home this you know,

1246
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: you look at their schedule. I was at the gym

1247
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: this morning and I looked up and they were kind

1248
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: of going through if they were to lose this game,

1249
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: even a ten and two. Now, maybe they just the

1250
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: Notre Dame brand. They give them the twelve seed, but

1251
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: their schedule doesn't look great. You know, really, this is

1252
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: a kind of important game for them, especially coming off

1253
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: that pretty devastating loss against Miami.

1254
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's close to a must win. I'm not gonna

1255
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: say it is a must win, but a ten and

1256
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: two if you lose your the two artist games in

1257
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: your schedule, and now the USC looks really good, So

1258
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean they could lose that game now, but that

1259
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: that would be like the only game that the rest

1260
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: of the schedule that you're like, Okay, this is a

1261
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: great win. So it'll probably depend on what happens elsewhere,

1262
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: and they will have like the momentum having won ten

1263
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: in a row, but it's gonna be dicey, and you

1264
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: could also say it's a must win for Texas A

1265
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: and m Now they're gonna have opportunities to get back

1266
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: in the seat, but their schedule is brutal. They're in

1267
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: the SEC. So like, if you get this win in

1268
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: your pocket, that's huge as far as trying to get

1269
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: in that large So yeah, interesting game. Marcus Freeman has

1270
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: been very, very good with time to prepare. He is

1271
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: twelve and oh against the spread with seven plus days

1272
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: to prepare, and that includes the season openers, and this

1273
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: is coming into the year, so I guess he's twelve

1274
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: and one now because he didn't beat Miami, but he's

1275
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: historically been very good off the buy. I think he's

1276
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: six and oh against the spread after a bye week,

1277
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: so he's been very good. They had a bye week,

1278
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, you had your your freshman quarterback get a

1279
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: start on the road. You can work on some things.

1280
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: I do think they probably unleash their backs here text

1281
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: A and M's run defense hasn't looked great. They lost

1282
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys to the NFL in the defensive line,

1283
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: so I think you're gonna see like Notre Dame go

1284
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: heavy run slot. I haven't bet this game yet, just

1285
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: because the spot for Notre Dame is good. If I

1286
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: had to, I'd probably take the seven. But as I

1287
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: have a sneaky suspicion that this is gonna go over

1288
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: forty nine and a half. Now Texas A and M

1289
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: under Elco, he's like taking more over the defense this year,

1290
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: really good defense. Corner of the defense was pretty bad.

1291
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: Last year. It hasn't been great, and that's bad competition

1292
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: so far, so that concerns me a bit. We'll see

1293
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: how he plays this. Generally speaking, he wants to like

1294
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: play a shell defense per ven explosive plays, so Notre

1295
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: Dame might be able to just run up and down

1296
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: the field. There's still some uncertainty for the quarterback. Marcel

1297
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: read the A and M quarterback. He stalls questions as

1298
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Kenny throw there's young receivers will look good, but against

1299
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: bad competition. It's a lot of uncertainty in this game.

1300
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: Huge game for both teams. Small into the over, small lean.

1301
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: I guess to A and m catching seven. But nothing strong.

1302
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: I haven't played anything yet.

1303
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let's dive into the NFL. A lot of divisional

1304
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: matchups this weekend. Stucky we got obviously, I mean, in

1305
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: all time meltdown would be strong. But you're up fifteen

1306
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: points with whatever four or five minutes to go. I mean,

1307
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: one of the best players of his generation fumbles the ball.

1308
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: Kind of freaky issue. But let's face it, two games

1309
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: in a row now the Ravens have looked dramatically better

1310
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: than the Bills and they've lost. It's crazy. So because

1311
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: my take was gonna behave if football was a seven

1312
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: game series, the Bills would have no shot. But then

1313
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: it's like, well, they've played three games and the Bills

1314
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: would beat them twice in the last three. But it

1315
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: does feel a little freaky, But let's dive into that game. Obviously,

1316
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: coming off a devastating loss, this is you know, the

1317
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: horriball Tomlin that they're good at like rallying the troops

1318
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: and stuff. I don't see how you can bet Joe

1319
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: Flacco in the Cleveland Browns. Listen, Week one, every team comes,

1320
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: but eleven and a half points is a lot. Now,

1321
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: this game's at Baltimore. But these divisional games we talked

1322
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: about like this is just tough, and this is Listen.

1323
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 2: If Cleveland ends up with a four win team first month,

1324
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna have belief in that locker room. It's the NFL.

1325
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: They're relatively healthy. I mean I that that number is

1326
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: pretty big. Bro.

1327
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that tough game for Werena. Speare dogs in

1328
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: matchups with zher on one teams, which this is even

1329
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: though it probably should be a matchup of one and

1330
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: zero teams. Both teams lost by one, they missed extra points.

1331
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: They were the better teams in their game. But underdogs

1332
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: in teams that are zero to one in Week two,

1333
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: underdogs in those games are fifty three to twenty eight

1334
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: and three against the spreads in two thousand and three

1335
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: sixty five percent, So you know, divisional dog catching double digits.

1336
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: The Browns defense did look good last week, so yeah,

1337
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: if I had to play it, I would probably take

1338
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: the Browns. But what I did play is I did

1339
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: play the over. I played over forty five a couple

1340
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: of reasons. One that lumbers just too low for the

1341
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: Ravens offense. The Ravens offense is a juggernaut. They're gonna

1342
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: they basically score like thirty plus every week unless they

1343
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: play Steelers. Then the games like seventeen to sixteen, But

1344
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: they scored thirty plus and twelve of their past fifteen

1345
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: games fifteen of their pay eighteen games dating back to

1346
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: the start of last year have hit at least forty

1347
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: five average of fifty three in those games. And here

1348
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna throw the ball time, like so

1349
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: you might get a Flaco pick six of a key mistake,

1350
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: but they're gonna. They're gonna he threw it forty five

1351
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: times last week in a seventeen to sixteen game, Like,

1352
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: so they're gonna come out chucking it's uh, by the way,

1353
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: this is like revenge weekend. You got Flacco going back

1354
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: to Baltimore for Baltimore's thirty year anniversary of stealing Cleveland's team,

1355
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: his first time in Flaco's back on Baltimore in a

1356
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: non Ravens uniform, Chiefs Eagles Super Bowl, Ben Johnson versus

1357
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: the Lions, McCarthy Pennock's National title rematch, DK metcalf back

1358
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. So a lot of narrative revenge games

1359
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But the other thing worth noting.

1360
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: Here Titans ran Super Bowl ninety nine, one of.

1361
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 1: The best Kevin Dyson. The one of a small thing

1362
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: here is that both teams might end up being extra aggressive,

1363
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: which could be all the Browns because they know that

1364
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: they're big underdogs here, so they might end up going

1365
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: forward on fourth down a little bit more, and they

1366
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: know that they have a kicker that they might not

1367
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: be able to rely on because they didn't tout Schmid

1368
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: and then the Ravens. All the talk all week has

1369
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: been about all the blown leads over the past three

1370
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: four years, all the double digit fourth quarter leads, and

1371
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: it just happened. They just blew up fifteen point. They

1372
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: had a ninety nine percent win probability at a fifteen

1373
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: point lead with I don't know six to go. So

1374
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: do you think that if they're up fourteen to fifteen

1375
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: this week that they're going to stay lunch him? So

1376
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, you might get like

1377
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: an extra punched in touchdown instead of like the team

1378
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 1: that's up two touchdowns just goes run, run, run punt.

1379
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: Can you answer can you answer me this? I don't

1380
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: know what year it was, but they like were ahead

1381
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: of the curve and being super aggressive, and then last

1382
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: week they kind of had like their potential Belichick Kevin

1383
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 2: Falk versus Peyton Manning moment, like this guy was unstoppable

1384
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: at the time, like he was on Are you stunned

1385
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: that he got so conservative in that moment. I know

1386
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: he's not the play caller, but it's pretty easy for

1387
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: John to be like, hey, at the start of that

1388
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: drive a Todd, I mean, this is what I want.

1389
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: We're going fucking pedal to the medal, and it felt

1390
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: like he went more old school John Harbaugh twenty twelve, like,

1391
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: let's get really conservative. And this was Belichick way ahead

1392
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: of the curve when fulk when he dropped the ball

1393
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: or tripped or whatever happened. Looking back, like when you're

1394
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: playing Josh Allen, Peyton Manning and the peak of their powers,

1395
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: they're going to beat you. This is like basketball now,

1396
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: especially with the rules, where good offense beats good defense.

1397
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: When a guy is that hot?

1398
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I mean he punted fourth and three that

1399
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: they're own thirty eight.

1400
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 2: But to me, even the sequence was just, yeah.

1401
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: The whole thing from first to the third down. I mean,

1402
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: Lamar apparently had the option to keep it but didn't.

1403
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, it wasn't agressive enough of Lamar

1404
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: was cooking that defense the entire game. But even on

1405
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: the fourth and three, I would have went for it,

1406
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: And I think every model would have said to go

1407
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: for it. And even if you just look at it

1408
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: as a basic fan, just saying you're gonna punt the

1409
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: ball back to Josh Allen and he just need to

1410
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: get in field goal range, like you would have been

1411
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: better off not getting it and then giving up a

1412
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: touchdown on the next play, and then getting the ball

1413
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: back with a chance to win or tie if they

1414
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: got the two, like you'd be better off than that,

1415
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: then punting it and then letting Allen go and drain

1416
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: the clock and kick a field goal to win it.

1417
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: That was like the worst case scenario. So yeah, I

1418
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: was shocked. And they have like analytics guys, they have

1419
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: a guy that tells them. But the thing is that

1420
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: these coaches sometimes they just.

1421
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,480
Speaker 2: Proverb back Mike McDonald's.

1422
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: Their model said to go for it fourth and one,

1423
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: and he overrode it, and they kicked the fuel goal

1424
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: and it ended up costing them in the game. So like,

1425
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: what's the point to have in the model. I mean,

1426
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: I guess it's like one input, but yeah, that's uh.

1427
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: He overrode his model. I'm assuming Harball did as well.

1428
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: I was shocked, So I assume that the Ravens are

1429
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: gonna be There was a game where Lamar like convincing

1430
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: them to go for it against the Chiefs one year

1431
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: that won in the game on fourth down at home.

1432
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: I expect, at least in the short term.

1433
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: The one thing though, I would say, I would say

1434
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: in that game, it's a no braker, you got Lamar,

1435
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: you've been kicking ass the Seattle thing. He could go, well,

1436
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: kittles over in shorts and T shirt. Our defense has

1437
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: been smoking hell. Trent Williams let alone their offensive line

1438
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: and don't have a kicker, so we go up three,

1439
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: don't have a kicker. They got ten total points. So

1440
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: I do think in the flow of the game, in

1441
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: the Ravens game, it had a feel of like this

1442
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: is like a video all who's going to get it?

1443
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually didn't fully disagree with the Seahawks field

1444
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: goal kick, especially when you consider that, like the forty

1445
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: nine ers are probably incapable of kicking a field goal

1446
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: to tie it with Moody and congrats. By the way,

1447
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to a new kicker.

1448
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: Only about two years too late.

1449
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: But how about that draft? What a draft? Yeah?

1450
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: I mean pretty bad. I mean we dive into here

1451
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 2: in a minute. Somehow they cretured all three preseason. Everyone's

1452
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: dropping like flies. The week one ends, they somehow Kittle

1453
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: is out for a month and Party throws the game

1454
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: winning drive in their own victory formation. Then Monday it's like, yeah,

1455
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 2: he's out for two to five weeks. It's like what

1456
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: only the Niners. I mean, you could never like it'd

1457
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 2: be like Sean mcdermoy's like, oh yeah, Josh Allen's out

1458
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: two to five weeks. We just saw him play. It's like, yeah,

1459
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: he was fine, but now he's not. Like only the Niners.

1460
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: It's insane, But I don't even care. I mean, I

1461
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: have no take on Mac Jones versus Special Round.

1462
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: I'll give you the worst take they go over here.

1463
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: I'm sing that line came down to three, the totals dropping.

1464
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see how low it gets into the thirties.

1465
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna i might bet the over. The thinking is

1466
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: it's still Shanahan. The Saints defense isn't great, like, he's

1467
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: still gonna.

1468
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: Like he likes mac Jones.

1469
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: He does like mac Jones. He'll be able to draw up.

1470
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 1: They'll be able to score some points here. The Saints offense,

1471
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: it looked okay last week. Kel Moore can still call offense.

1472
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: They went super fast, so they're it's gonna be like

1473
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: high they say to the ball they went. They were

1474
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: the fastest team in the NFL last week, so they're

1475
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: going high tempo. So like indoors, two good play callers.

1476
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: This gets into the thirties, it's so gross, like a

1477
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: mac Jones Spencer Rattler over like. It just makes me cringe.

1478
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm looking at there, that's.

1479
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: All they The Niners did play a legendary game the

1480
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: first time they made the Super Bowl in nineteen against

1481
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: Sean Payton and Drew Brees with Jimmy Garoppolo, who probably

1482
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: played the best game he's ever played. A forty game

1483
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: in New Orleans and he just he made plays like

1484
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: he was like I don't know, like Tom Brady or something.

1485
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: It was crazy, great game, But the Niners historically had

1486
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: some great games against the Saints in the regular season

1487
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 2: and in the playoffs. Now that's back with Sean Payton

1488
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: and Harbaugh and some better Kyle's teams. But Mac Jones,

1489
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, we two buckle up. Let's this game's fascinating.

1490
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm out on Kleb Williams, not that he's just

1491
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: gonna be out of the league, but like the hype,

1492
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: it's just like you just can't play like that, especially

1493
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: in this situation, like with this coach. It's just not

1494
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: gonna work. Like people don't flip the switch of all

1495
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: of a sudden. Yeah, you can just sit in the

1496
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 2: pocket now and pick you apart, Like that's not how

1497
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: he plays. You can't do that overnight and confidence and everything.

1498
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: It's already spinning, it feels like. But the Lions, my

1499
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: take on that game is, I know, everyone's like, oh,

1500
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: they just totally sucked out. That was such a big

1501
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 2: spot for the Packers. They had lost this team twice

1502
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: last year. You had just got Micah Parsons, who's back

1503
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 2: immediately is healthy. Of course. It's almost like they wouldn't

1504
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: have given him one hundred and eighty five million dollars

1505
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: if you would have had a bad back. It's like, guys,

1506
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: you see how much money they just gave him, Like

1507
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: what are we talking about? But the Lions like you

1508
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: know better than me? Like that that offensive line, I

1509
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: mean it's pretty scary, Like that's a big difference. And

1510
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: that is the one concerning part because GoF can't move

1511
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: and unlike Kayla Williams, who honestly is a better athlete

1512
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: than the even I realized, Gof's the you know, new

1513
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: version of Kirk Cousins. Like when it's on, it's on,

1514
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: but when you start hitting him, it crumbles like a cookie.

1515
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: That's the one thing that leaves me. But you know,

1516
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell off, these spots like this got Dan Campbell,

1517
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: who's like the younger version of Mike Tomlin written all

1518
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: over right, especially at home.

1519
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah ten and n against the spread after their last

1520
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: ten losses under Campbell. This is a tricky game for me, Like, yeah,

1521
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: I want to sell both teams right now. Like Caleb

1522
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: is still too inaccurate. He still hasn't like fully grasped

1523
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: what Johnson wants to do. I'm not saying he can't

1524
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: get there. I didn't think it was going to happen overnight,

1525
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: but there's still there was still too much of a

1526
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: gap to where I thought he has to where he

1527
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 1: has to go to where he is right now. So

1528
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm curious to watch this like that development.

1529
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: Part of my issue too is just kind of watching

1530
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: from the I don't think the head coach this sounds

1531
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: crazy because he just accepted the job, like really likes this.

1532
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: Guy, Like he doesn't really what he wants to do.

1533
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: It's a complete That's what I'm saying.

1534
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 2: Off And how often do we see in football where

1535
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: like that creates such an ugly just relationship when the

1536
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: football mesh. It could be other positions too, with you know,

1537
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: big name players. When it doesn't work, it just gets

1538
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: weird and it gets ugly and it just grows as

1539
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: the season goes. Yeah, we see it all the time.

1540
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: Yep. Uh it's yeah. And like he's still his off

1541
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: he's still his off target rate a rate percentage is

1542
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: still way too high. And like I they have to

1543
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: figure out a way to marry the fundamental operation of

1544
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson offense and then Caleb Williams his off script plays.

1545
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: How do you do that?

1546
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can they find the optimal way because

1547
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: like him doing the off script plays like then he's

1548
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: not running the like So I don't know. It's it's

1549
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a work in progress. The Bear's also have

1550
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: a ton of defensive injuries worth monitoring. Jalen Johnson. They

1551
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: have two starting corners out. Their two best corners rout

1552
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: last week against the Vikings. They had a linebacker out

1553
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: as well. One of their defensive starting defense tackles didn't

1554
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: practice yesterday, so they have a bunch of defensive injuries.

1555
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: They're in a short week. It's not a great spot

1556
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: going to Detroit indoors where golf plays better. But I'm

1557
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm not running to the window about the true right

1558
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: right now. It's the team I was selling coming into

1559
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: the year. Part of it was the coordinators. And look,

1560
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the coordinators. They lost Ben Johnson and

1561
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: then they lost Tanner extra and who went to the Jets.

1562
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look at that offense last week they were electric,

1563
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: So they lost like a lot of the brains. And

1564
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: last week the offense to two major problems. You highlighted one,

1565
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: it's the interior offensive line. If you get interior pressure

1566
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: on golf, it's over there. There's no recourse for him.

1567
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: And if there's there was no easy buttons, and there

1568
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: was no creativity and innovation. It doesn't mean that they

1569
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: can't get there, but it was very troubling, Like he'd

1570
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: you drop back I don't know, forty times to one

1571
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards, Like I get the Packers are good,

1572
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: but the Packers don't have any like Pro Bowl corners.

1573
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: I mean it would have. Gibbs had like ten catches

1574
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: for thirty yards. Looked like a completely different offense. And

1575
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: a lot of that some of that was the scheme stuff.

1576
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get there, but a lot of that was

1577
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: the interior pressure. That the run game still wasn't as

1578
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: good upfront and the play doesn't work as good as well.

1579
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: And like they have two new guards. They kicked their

1580
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: worst offensive lineman into center, like they had an all

1581
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: world center before they lost their best guard. So like

1582
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: that's a problem. So yeah, and then what throws a

1583
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 1: wrench in a this is like the Johnson familiarity. Like

1584
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: so the Lions staff knows what Johnson likes to do,

1585
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: but then Johnson knows the Lions defensive personnel. So that's

1586
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: an interesting chess match, but not a team. I'm it's

1587
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: probably a better spot for the Lions. It's like indoors

1588
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: that Bears coming off a short week, they have injuries,

1589
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: so done. In my head, I'd go Lions, but I'm

1590
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: probably not betting it. Two teams that I just don't

1591
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: want to put my money behind that right at this moment.

1592
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: This is the biggest red flag line. I think just

1593
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: something's just off here is the Pats, you know, because

1594
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: you would have said, what was the look ahead line

1595
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:54,879
Speaker 2: two weeks ago in this game.

1596
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: Hats Dolphins. Uh, probably Dolphins minus three.

1597
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: So it's they're just getting normal respect, like old school

1598
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: line of just the home team favored. To me. I

1599
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: would have thought that maybe I had too high hopes

1600
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: for the Patriots. But one thing that I might have

1601
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: to come around on that people have been calling me out.

1602
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: I just assumed, like, oh, Josh McDaniels, we've seen him

1603
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: for decades, offensive coordinator, he's really good. And then they're like, well,

1604
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: remove Brady and then dive into obviously his head coaching spots.

1605
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know that Rams spot. In twenty eleven,

1606
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: they were statistically the worst offense. So he has some

1607
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: moments where if Tom and Bill aren't standing right next

1608
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: to him, it gets really weird. And it also might

1609
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: be the quarterback who I just thought, I think Drake

1610
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 2: May is gonna be pretty good player. What if he's not?

1611
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: You know, what if he's not, because I thought last

1612
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: game I don't give a shit what his stats were,

1613
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: the eye test was.

1614
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA.

1615
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: Now part of it, you could argue their personnel is

1616
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: not great, but a lot of hype for this guy,

1617
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 2: A lot of hype for this team, you know, Vrabels

1618
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: not exactly. This isn't like Sean McVeigh or Kevin O'Connell,

1619
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: I mean, is an old school conservative coach, but like

1620
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: I would assume that, like the Patriots should dominate Miami.

1621
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: But you're like, well, they've actually statistically over the years

1622
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: not done as well down there, even with Bill and Tom,

1623
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: And what if the Patriots just aren't good?

1624
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Brady hated. I mean, there is an advantage

1625
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: for Miami homefield advantage early in the season with the

1626
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: humidity the sun on on the other sidelines, So like

1627
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: there's part of that. Brady like literally had his worst

1628
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: games every year in Miami. It seemed like.

1629
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 2: I desperately want to take the Patriots here, but this line.

1630
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: You could not pay me to bet the Dolphins right now.

1631
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: It's Patriots or nothing. But the Patriots have like they

1632
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: still have issues. We'll see if Christian Gonzalez goes. They

1633
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: need him back in the secondary. I don't think he's

1634
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: gonna play. But the Dolphins are a mess. Like that

1635
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: was as bad of oh season opener as you will

1636
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: ever see Indianapolis. And coming into the year, like we

1637
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: knew that these problems existed across the roster, Like the

1638
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: offensive line is one of the worst the NFL. Now

1639
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: they have some injuries they're dealing with. Their secondary is

1640
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: beyond repair. I mean now they lost Storm Duck who

1641
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: was like their number one corner somehow, but they lost

1642
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: Kay who was probably their best corner in camp. They

1643
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: traded Ramsey, they traded Holland, Like their second was mess.

1644
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: They're relying on like guys that they picked up two

1645
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: weeks ago, So what do they do last week? It's

1646
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: the Colts. They just blit they blitzed like sixty percent

1647
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: of the time, like they did, because there's like, we

1648
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: don't trust anyone to cover, but their secondary is horrendous,

1649
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: and like Tyreek Hill has clearly lost a step. This

1650
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: is like a very vow like there's a chance that

1651
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are like a two win team, like that

1652
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: they they what they need, they need to blow this up.

1653
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,839
Speaker 1: And like the to his performance was even more concerning

1654
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: in that this is like the system, like he's he

1655
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: knows the McDaniel's system, and he looked like he was

1656
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: the first time he was running the system. I mean,

1657
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 1: he was throwing it right to the Colts.

1658
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: He was bad.

1659
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: So like the Hill's already going nuts on the sideline.

1660
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a mess, the secondary is a mess.

1661
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,879
Speaker 1: So I would trust the Patriots much more. It's Patriots

1662
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: are nothing. I went until further notice. And you know me,

1663
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: I will bet on any bad team. I mean, you

1664
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: should my college football card this week. I have bets

1665
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: on Eastern Michigan, who just lost to Long Island. I

1666
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: bet Northwestern against Oregon.

1667
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: I mean you, I bet you're not afraid.

1668
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: I will bet any bad team. I will not bet

1669
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins right now, so Patriots or nothing.

1670
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: Well, that that's where when we go week to week,

1671
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 2: Like you said, looking back at LSU the first couple

1672
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: of weeks, we might have overvalued who they were, you know,

1673
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: beating Clemson right, well, Indy you know cruises do I

1674
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: mean Indy's I mean a real NFL team, And Daniel

1675
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: Jones has proven like if he's playing, okay, you can

1676
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: win games with him. But like that game could just

1677
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: be not matter at all. And now they played Denver

1678
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: bon Nicks. I mean that was as bad of a

1679
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: game it's probably played as a pro. I mean, that

1680
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: was a joke, just an atrocious effort. But he has

1681
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: one of the best coaches in the league whose offense

1682
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: is his baby, Like the offense is Sean Payton's, So

1683
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: you go listen. I bet on that guy to figure

1684
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: it out, to motivate, to get him in the right

1685
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: head space, the guy not to go in the tank. Plus,

1686
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: I would say this about bo Bow, like some of

1687
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, they've seen a lot of shit in college.

1688
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy had like seventy five starts, had

1689
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: a transfer, ran out of Auburn, So mentally I'm not

1690
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: necessarily worried about him. Going into the tank, maybe like

1691
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: a Drake may or a Caleb But like, I just

1692
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: think this Denver defense, I mean every time you looked

1693
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: up in Tennessee. Unless the Tennessee might not be that good,

1694
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 2: but that defense is. So they got to have the

1695
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: fastest defense in the league. Like when you factor in

1696
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: all eleven guys their team speed. This could be a

1697
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: spot where you know they're they're favored on the road.

1698
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: But I couldn't you see them hold Indy like into

1699
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: single digits in this game and just swarm them.

1700
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could just be your classic like Daniel Jones

1701
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: game under pressure and one.

1702
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: Like seventeen a seven type game or something.

1703
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a big like this is revenge weekend

1704
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: though this is a revenge spot for the Colts. I

1705
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: bet the Colts last year against the Broncos, they should

1706
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: have like they were like catching like four Jonathan Taylor

1707
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: drops the ball going into the end zone and then

1708
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: their wide receiver threw a pick six somehow Ladie Mitchell

1709
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: like just threw it right to the Broncos have returned it.

1710
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, that defense, they have the coverage on the

1711
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: back end. It starts to Suordain and then they're able

1712
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: to they can stop the run, and then it's third

1713
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: and long, and then they can play cover to bring pressure.

1714
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: And like cam Moore was under pressure like fifty percent

1715
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: of time. By the way, I did bet the Titans

1716
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: this week. I think I think he fared well given

1717
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: the circumstances. You know, he lost his tackle during the game.

1718
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: He was under pressure the whole time. He didn't make

1719
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: any catastrophic mistakes. He looked poised. There was a bunch

1720
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: of drops. He wasn't put in the best situation, but

1721
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: he looked poised there in first road start in them

1722
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: or not an easy place to be. They almost blew

1723
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: the cover for us last week because Callahan, I'm gonna

1724
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: rent for ten seconds. Some of the worst coaching I've

1725
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: ever seen. The first he said in the presser he

1726
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't know one elbow equals two knees like iam In

1727
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: I had a thirty yard catch. He didn't challenge it

1728
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: because he said, oh, you need knees and elbows. No.

1729
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the half, one of

1730
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: the worst coaching thesis I've ever seen is Denver punted

1731
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 1: down six to three and the Titans had the ball

1732
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: at the five with forty seconds to go and Denver

1733
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: only had two timeouts. You run the ball, you take knees,

1734
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: you can take knees. You run the ball three times,

1735
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: and you go to the half up six to three

1736
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: with your rookie quarterback. In Denver, they dropped back three

1737
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: times incomplete, incomplete, sacked at the one, had a punt

1738
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: from the one Denver scored, returned it to the twenty

1739
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. You just gave them free seven points. Luckily,

1740
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: somehow Tennessee returned the kick seventy yards with like two

1741
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: seconds ago and got a field goal out of it.

1742
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: If they lost four net points out of it, horrendous anyway,

1743
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: I had to get that off my chest.

1744
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: He seems like a nice guy. You know, he grew

1745
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 2: up in the barrier. Is there a chance he's got

1746
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: no clue what he's doing? I yes, as a head coach,

1747
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine he knows offensive quarterback play.

1748
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 2: But as a head coach completely over skis yes.

1749
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. The Titans are better, like

1750
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: they're off in tear. Off the lines is better. Their

1751
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: special team is way better. They were really good. They're

1752
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: maybe a really good offensive line coach, tackle's still a question.

1753
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: Although they upgraded a left tackle. Defense is good like

1754
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: it sneed was playing. Their D line is good. But

1755
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: back to the Colts Broncos. Yeah, this could just be

1756
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: like old Daniel Jones right when he's under pressure constantly

1757
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: in New York. It's it's just all falls apart and

1758
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: he could make a bunch of mistakes here. But do

1759
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: I trust bo Nicks about him as a road favorite?

1760
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: Not sure. I don't know if I can get there.

1761
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: He looked really poor and like he looked last year.

1762
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: You gotta remember they beat one playoff team all year

1763
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: if you remove Week eight team and the Chiefs sat everyone.

1764
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: And he needs like to be playing from ahead and

1765
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: like so like last week, he could have thrown a

1766
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: couple of pick sixes that were dropped. It was bad,

1767
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, like he's a seasoned guy.

1768
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't worry about him mentally, so I can see

1769
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: the Denver play.

1770
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that quarterback class went from like all

1771
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: time historic to be like, well, I know Jaden's sweet

1772
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: McCarthy gave me a quarter Uh. I'm not done with Pennix.

1773
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: Still like him. I've loved him for years at Washington,

1774
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: So I'm rooting for me. He's you can tell like

1775
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: he's he's okay, he's not gonna be awful, But how

1776
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: what's his ceiling? I think that was always a lot

1777
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: of pushback from like the NFL people. But you got Caleb,

1778
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: you got May, you got a lot of people that

1779
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 2: were betting against bow Knicks from the jump. So when

1780
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: he plays a game like that, and let's face that

1781
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 2: game that's just bad of a game like two is

1782
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: getting shit on. You could argue bo Nicks was worse

1783
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 2: than two A. I mean the pick like the.

1784
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: Rookie in that game, even though Cam Woordon had like

1785
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: less fewer passing yards some of Nix's reads, and like

1786
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: it was bad.

1787
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: One thing about the Rams is it's that it's that

1788
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 2: classic like ten am kickoff or a West Coast team.

1789
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: It's like a four hour flight from It's just a

1790
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: long hard on your body clock. I just think that's

1791
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like the Rams playing preseason their

1792
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 2: body clock. They got to play their first game at home.

1793
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 2: It's just just an interesting spot. Now again, like Tennessee

1794
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: blows this and they get they lose by ten plus.

1795
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: I'm not betting on him anymore, I will be out

1796
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: Because I did this last year. I wrote him the

1797
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: first couple weeks. I'm gonna ride him again this week.

1798
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Let's get to the main event, the

1799
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 2: super Bowl rematch. He's not an underdog at home, I

1800
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 2: would imagine very often. You know, I think everyone's writing

1801
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: off the Chiefs. It's like, guys, they've been playing like

1802
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: this for a couple of years, and in fairness and

1803
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: even Travis like I knocked out my own guy. That's

1804
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 2: on me. I mean, that's kind of and they were

1805
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: kept saying it during the broadcast, like Andy told us.

1806
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Andy told Andy's not one of those like you know

1807
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 2: Belichick here where he's hiding all his secrets. He's and

1808
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 2: he's in those meetings chopping up with the guy's like

1809
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: Xavid Worthy's a huge part of this game plan. He

1810
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 2: just disappears. This is some random guy that was our

1811
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: first round pick. Oh yeah, and their second round pick

1812
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 2: where she Rice looked excellent towards ACL Slash got suspended.

1813
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, this is their offense, and Travis

1814
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: is old that leaves me concerned. But this team has

1815
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: a lot of championship character. That defense got shredded. Are

1816
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: they just bat on d now? I have a hard

1817
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 2: time believing that. Obviously, you know Chris Jones can be

1818
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: a little bit of a hit or miss player. But

1819
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: also Philly's coming off this game while they won kind

1820
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: of an embarrassing situation, so I think they're going to

1821
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 2: be motivated. But Kansas City at home, that place doing

1822
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 2: the chop. I just to have a hard time, like,

1823
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Chiefs plus points. I've learned my

1824
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 2: lesson over the years, though I for the first time,

1825
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 2: I really don't feel that great about this.

1826
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 1: I I'm with you. By the way. Two other notes,

1827
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Colts defense is improved because they got rid of Gus Bradley,

1828
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: so like they're not just covered three basic And the

1829
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: Rams might people outvote their guards, who are really important,

1830
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: especially if you can get into your pressure with that

1831
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: d line on Stafford who can't really scramble. So those

1832
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,839
Speaker 1: are two things that could work, and especially with the Titans,

1833
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: if the Rams guards are out, that's big. But I'm

1834
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: with you on the Chiefs. My Home's twelve and two

1835
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 1: against the spread as an underdog, covering by like six

1836
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: points per game is close to ninety percent against the spread.

1837
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I get it, worthy I assume it's not gonna play

1838
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: Rice is out. Your running game isn't great. You know,

1839
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: look in their secondary has some questions, but you just

1840
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: it's just it feels like it's gonna be one of

1841
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: those Chiefs games. They've extra time repair, They'll be like

1842
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: a ton of Mahome scrambles. They'll be like these methodical drives.

1843
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: This kid Thwarton will have like a deep touchdown or something,

1844
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: and then they'll just work the middle of the field.

1845
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: The Eagles safeties are vulnerable, and the Eagles defense lost

1846
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot. Like it's not the same calable defensive line.

1847
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: It's not. They still have questions at the second cornerback spot.

1848
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: And I don't like the Eagles offense. This could be

1849
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: a situation like two years ago. I get it's not.

1850
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: They still sayque Barkley, so it's gonna be better. But

1851
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: two years ago, Brian Johnson the offensive coordinator, it was

1852
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: a disaster, and you have a new offense coordinator if

1853
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: they're losing Kellen Moore. It looked bad last week. Now

1854
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: it's only one game, but like there was no creativity.

1855
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 2: It was.

1856
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: It was ugly and the Chiefs can stop the run.

1857
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: That's where they've been really good at the past year

1858
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 1: and a half. So and is Aj Brown fully healthy

1859
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: and DeVante Spant they were dealing with injuries, they just

1860
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: were just today decided not to throw to them. I

1861
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: don't know, but the Chiefs super Bowl revenge, give me

1862
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: all the narratives at home a little extra time repar

1863
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: Eagles do too, but I'll trust Read a little bit

1864
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: more with that, And of course their defensive coordinator spec Nola,

1865
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking give me the point, the point in the

1866
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: half with Mahomes, It'll just it feels to me it'll

1867
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: be like one of those games where people on Twitter

1868
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: like cursing, like they'll get one call they'll end up

1869
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: winning on like a walk off field goal by two

1870
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: on an ugly game. So yeah, do you need any

1871
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: points at home with Mahomes. If there's anyone who's just

1872
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna will his team to a win with like you

1873
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: and the receiver, it's gonna be Mahomes in this spot.

1874
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I bet the Chiefs with you.

1875
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 2: One thing that throws me off about this much night doubleheader,

1876
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: which I'm not going to complain anymore. I was cool

1877
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 2: with just the one game. But what are you going

1878
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 2: to complain about two games? It is difficult when they

1879
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 2: do the overlap, which they in a couple of weeks

1880
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: that like, basically they're only separated by an hour. This

1881
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: is just a legit one team. One game kicks off

1882
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: at four o'clockie Pacific standa time, and the other one

1883
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 2: right after. So it's it's a little easier to consume Tampa.

1884
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: But but that's not always the case. I looked ahead

1885
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, they're going back to that

1886
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 2: staggered thing, which I think sometimes they do that when

1887
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 2: they're shittier matchups. It's a pretty good matchups here. Started

1888
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: with the first game. You know, Baker obviously had the

1889
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: huge touchdown of the game winner. Yeah, I thought Atlanta

1890
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: got a little Lucky'd be wrong because they did look

1891
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: like penalties. But they have like seventy five plays from

1892
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 2: like the five yard line to at the end of

1893
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: the game. Obviously he missed the field goal. I'm just

1894
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: the Atlanta I'm just out on that organization. But you know, Tampa, listen,

1895
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: you get a win on the road against a divisional

1896
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 2: opponent who beat you last year, you gotta be feeling

1897
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 2: pretty good Houston. The offense still didn't look great. Defensively,

1898
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna be pretty damn good. I don't know. I mean,

1899
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: this game, I have a hard time trusting what's going

1900
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 2: on Houston offensively. Offensive line wise, they CJ. Stratge just

1901
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 2: hasn't looked like the same guy since the rookie that

1902
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: we saw kind of take the league by storm.

1903
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like, by the way, I agree with

1904
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: them the Monday night because like I watch a million

1905
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: games all weekend, as do we all Saturday Sunday. I'm

1906
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: in my basement, I have a bunch of screens. Monday,

1907
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: I want to go in my family room. I want

1908
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: to have one, Like that's what. I just want to

1909
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: have one game on and that's it, like Sunday night,

1910
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: Monday night. So like if there's back to back, I don't,

1911
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't. That's perfect to me, But yeah.

1912
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't like it's clearly not just it's more than

1913
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: an experiment at this point. It feels like something inevitable,

1914
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: like the next TV deal or again just Monday night doubleheaders.

1915
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, might be, it would make sense. That's probably how

1916
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: you get the most amount of money possible, which is

1917
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: all it's about at the end of the day. But

1918
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I really do like the Texans one of my favorite

1919
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: bets of the weekend. Anything under three minus tow An

1920
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: f all out there. So the Bucks last week, they

1921
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: were one of the luckiest teams in the NFL that

1922
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: won last week, them and the and the Steelers. The

1923
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Jets were like plus eight percent and that success right,

1924
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: the Falcons were like plus seven percent. I also played

1925
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: the Jets against the Bills, but the Bucks were not

1926
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: good like they were they bigger Mayfield had a couple

1927
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: big throws to Guka, who's going to be really good,

1928
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: but other than that, they did nothing all day. They

1929
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: got they they get co murdered a fourth down at

1930
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 1: their own thirty in the game, and then the Falcons

1931
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: got stuffed at the fifty. The only two quarterbacks with

1932
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: the turnover worthy play rate of over ten percent from

1933
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: last week, Tua and Baker. I think the Falcons dropped

1934
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: four picks. One went through the hands on a touchdown,

1935
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: but there was two others that were right in the hands.

1936
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: They easily could have got blown out of that game.

1937
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Then obviously the Miskick Mooney didn't play, and then you

1938
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: lost Drake London during the game, so like, and then

1939
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: you still needed a last minute touchdown drive. It didn't

1940
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: look the same. Liam Cohen was definitely missed. The run

1941
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: concepts were not the same, and they're just not healthy

1942
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 1: right now. They don't have Tristan Wurf's, they don't have Godwin,

1943
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: they don't have McMillan. But because of worse, they've moved

1944
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: their center to tackle their guard to center. They're other like,

1945
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: they're all it's And they played the Falcons, who like

1946
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: don't have a great pass rush, so that's gonna be

1947
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: a problem against the Texans pass rush. The Texans also

1948
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:31,520
Speaker 1: have the corners to match up with Evans and Igbuka.

1949
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't and like, the run game is not there

1950
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: with this offensive line and without Cohen, So like, I

1951
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: don't know how the Bucks really moved the ball. And

1952
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust the Texans to do enough against this

1953
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Bucks defense. It's not a great defense. Their their secondaries

1954
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 1: gettable the thing that gives me some confidence with the

1955
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: Texans offense this week. I still need to see it,

1956
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: but they did. I hated Slowick. They brought in a

1957
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, so obviously it didn't look great last week.

1958
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: It looked that's putting it lightly. Looked awful, but it

1959
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: was a horrend this situation. They lost before the game

1960
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: at Ingram at guard with like an abdomen injury. I

1961
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: thought he was he was ruled out before the game.

1962
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 1: He looked really good all in preseason. I don't know

1963
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: why they did this, but once he was ruled out,

1964
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: they moved Titus Howard from right tackle to right guard

1965
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: and he's much better at tackle. They moved three different

1966
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: positions around and then during the game Howard got their

1967
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: right tackle got hurt. Then they had Fisher in there.

1968
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: It was probably the worst tackle in the league. Their

1969
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: center guy is that probably out for the year. I

1970
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Andrews he got hurt. So they had like

1971
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: six different combinations, like all these got different guys played tackles.

1972
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 1: And this is a first game that whole all of camp.

1973
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: The offensive line that they played with, there's like one

1974
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: guy in the same position and they were going up

1975
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: against the Rams front nightmare scenario. So they switched everything up.

1976
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're gonna do that again.

1977
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: There was a chance Ingram's back and then they they'll

1978
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: have Patterson come in center. And I think he's just

1979
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: as fine as Andrews, so like, I don't think it

1980
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: was a big drop off there. He might even be better.

1981
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: But if they have Ingram Backer right guard and then

1982
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: but even if they go to this weird they at

1983
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: least get the practice with it, yeah all week. So

1984
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: and I think the play cang will be better. So

1985
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I think that there's some hope for the Texans offense

1986
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: in net respect. And the Bucks front isn't as good

1987
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: as the Rams front and their secondaries gettable. I think

1988
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Nico Collins about bounce back game. So I'm going to

1989
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: beat it on the Texans at home. This Bucks offense

1990
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: just isn't the same right now. Lose the coordinator, offensive

1991
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: line injuries, some wide receiver injuries. So yeah, give me.

1992
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: They were lucky last week. And then the Texans that

1993
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: you could say they were unlucky. They had all that happened,

1994
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: and they saw the ball late.

1995
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were in the game because it's

1996
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 2: not like the Rams scoring thirty points. The one thing

1997
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: I think big picture with offensive line play in general,

1998
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 2: you know We've been talking about this probably from five

1999
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 2: to seven years, is the the draft classes have not

2000
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 2: been very deep used to be able to find a

2001
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 2: lot of really good guards and centers. You know, they're

2002
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: still good tackles coming in the league, you know, especially

2003
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: in the first round, but there's a lot of guards

2004
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: and center depth. You used to be able to find

2005
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: Kelsey's and just solid players that would become Pro bowlers.

2006
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: Pass like pick one hundred or one fifty. Now I

2007
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 2: think you asked these teams like it's terrible. Obviously a

2008
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 2: lot has to do with the offenses in college that

2009
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: we watched are all spreading it out. But I think

2010
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, you see forty nine or land like Colton

2011
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: mckibbitt sucks. Obviously he's not Lane Johnson, but I bet

2012
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 2: they would tell you relative to the rest of the league,

2013
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 2: it's really hard to find this player. And the drop

2014
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 2: off for a guy that can start and like the backup,

2015
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: it's really big. So if your offensive line to begin

2016
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 2: with is not the Eagles, right, you're it's get an

2017
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 2: average starter to begin with, so the backup is really shitty.

2018
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 2: But all these defensive linemen in the last four or

2019
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 2: five years have come in not just on the edge

2020
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: but inside. Think how many when I was in the

2021
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 2: NFL in like twenty ten Colin Jenkins. There's like two

2022
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 2: or three guys that were inside pass rushers. Most guys

2023
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 2: were like fat run stuffers. It's the opposite now. And

2024
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 2: even the that run stuffers like Sweat or whatever Tennessee,

2025
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 2: they're fucking athletic. I feel like every team now might

2026
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: not have Aaron Donald, but they got dudes inside. You're

2027
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 2: watching that game the other night, Bears and Vikings like

2028
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: they got pretty good defensive tackle pressure. And I just

2029
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: think that that's an area to watch. And that's why

2030
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 2: some of this quarterback play when you talk about unders.

2031
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 2: As time goes, these guys are getting injured. It's just

2032
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on because when backups come in,

2033
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 2: it could get ugly fast.

2034
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Who's I always think of that guy there

2035
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: was a huge I mean I always think of like

2036
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: Sarah Goosa, Summer Ravens fencing him and Sam Adams. Yeah,

2037
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: there was a packer that was huge.

2038
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: I forget his name, Gilbert, Yes.

2039
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: Gilbert, that guy.

2040
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: Those guys don't existing, but they don't play because you

2041
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 2: watch college. Where do you see that in college? Like

2042
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: the three hundred because people aren't running.

2043
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,440
Speaker 1: Flora that the Bucks drafted.

2044
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Was like four hundred fifty pounds who might.

2045
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: Their only role of min now might be like the

2046
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: the Toush push stopper, if they could find a way

2047
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: to use them. I don't know, but yeah, like Vitavey

2048
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: is huge, he super athletic. H sweat last week on

2049
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: a fourth and one, made a move and blew up Nicks.

2050
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

2051
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a it's a different world, And you're right.

2052
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 1: I pay so much more attention now to offensive line

2053
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: injuries because some of the drop offs are scary bad.

2054
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: Like if the like the the Texans, like they have

2055
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: like Fisher come in at right tackle, it's like nothing

2056
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: is going get killed. Yeah, so yeah, it's a really

2057
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: astute point, Like there's the depth and the quality of

2058
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: the depth is just not where it once was, and

2059
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 1: a lot of that is due to the college game.

2060
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, you think that leads to extensions like the Raiders,

2061
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 2: like you know Pete and John Spytech, you know Colton Miller.

2062
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: He's not Trent Williams or anything. But it's like, where

2063
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 2: we're gonna risk letting this guy go. He wants a

2064
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 2: little more money, what else are we gonna do? You know?

2065
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 2: So it's a no Brainer. It's like, wait, we give

2066
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 2: him sixty million dollars over three years. Boom, here you go, buddy.

2067
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Well that's that's to bring up for the Jets. If

2068
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: you can hit on a tackle in the draft right

2069
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: away and then you're not paying them a ton of money.

2070
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 2: Meg, is that guy a star?

2071
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: They might have hit on it. I mean he had

2072
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: membu He had twenty six pass protection snap pass pro snaps,

2073
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: zero pressures, zero hurries, zero satsin. He was going up

2074
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 1: against Watt and Heismith. He had a perfect clean sheet.

2075
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: So they might have hit there, which is huge. And yeah,

2076
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: once you once you hit on a tackle in the draft,

2077
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: like just had. There's so many teams in the league.

2078
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Taxans. The Texans can't figure

2079
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: out their offensive line. It's just an absolute mess. And

2080
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: then you have the Bucks, like you lose worfs and

2081
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:43,600
Speaker 1: it's just like what do we do we put they

2082
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: put their center at tackle and you played some tackle

2083
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: at duke. But like it's the depth is just because

2084
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: they had this guy Heck who was the backup left tackle.

2085
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: And then they realized, like over the last two weeks

2086
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: that they're like, oh shit, this guy can't play, so yeah,

2087
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: it can get ugly quick.

2088
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: Well that let's end with this. The second half of

2089
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 2: the doubleheader is you know, this is why when everyone's like,

2090
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 2: I bet Harbaugh, he he's a receiver, It's like, guys,

2091
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: have you followed Harbus's career. He's not gonna take my

2092
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: league neighbors overall, And obviously that saved him because no

2093
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: team was more equipped to lose a star left tack

2094
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: like this is not an ideal situation, but we also

2095
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 2: have this other guy that's going to be an All

2096
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 2: pro Pro Bowl. Guys, it was awesome. So, I mean

2097
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 2: they looked fantastic, right, I mean, Herbert looked. I mean,

2098
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, Marino lway. I mean he was dominant

2099
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 2: in that game. Raiders look good too. I mean Gino,

2100
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 2: now he can be very you know, a little fire,

2101
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 2: you know, hot and cold just you never know, but

2102
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 2: that was hot. I mean that was Jesus Gino slinging,

2103
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 2: especially on the road rainy conditions. Raiders look good. Now.

2104
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 2: The Pats might not be good. We know, even if

2105
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have a down year, what's that ten and seven,

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Speaker 2: like worst case scenario, that's an excellent win for the

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Speaker 2: Chargers playing I don't know, fifteen hours away in Brazil

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Speaker 2: and it was games. I was impressed by the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I like the Raiders at home plus

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Speaker 2: three in the spot sometimes. I think sometimes in Vegas

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Speaker 2: right when they're especially the Chiefs and the Broncos, they

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Speaker 2: get a lot of those fans there Chargers. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're not exactly the Steelers or the Packers when a

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Speaker 2: couple fan bases. So this doesn't benefit the Raiders a

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Speaker 2: little bit from a crowd standpoint. I'm gonna hammer the

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Speaker 2: Raiders now, and I listen, I'm not anti the Chargers

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Speaker 2: super impressive. They're gonna be good, but I kind of

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Speaker 2: like the Raiders in this spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't hate it. It's not now situationally, it's

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Speaker 1: early in the year, so like this probably doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: as much, but like the Chargers have a couple extra

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Speaker 1: days of prep the rest or across the country for

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Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. But uh, yeah, the Raiders' offense I

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Speaker 1: think is gonna be pretty good this year. It couldn't

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Speaker 1: really run the ball last week, but g you know,

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Speaker 1: I had the over in that game. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that was only like twenty five points, because like

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Speaker 1: there was it was terrible. So but they're all is

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Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I think their offensive line as potential.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously you have Bowers. I think Bowers is

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Speaker 1: good to go. He was dealing with an injury, but

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Speaker 1: obviously you need him give you your tight ends. I

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Speaker 1: like some of their weapons, and then you upgraded a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you have gente running back. You should have some semblance

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Speaker 1: or running game. So their offense has a lot of potential.

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Speaker 1: Their defense, the back end of their defense is real,

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Speaker 1: real bad. So like they're just gonna like play coverage

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Speaker 1: to try to prevent exposive plays and then they hope

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Speaker 1: to force a turnover, get a Crosby sack. Like that's

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Speaker 1: how the Patrick Graham is a good defense coordinator. There's

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Speaker 1: just no talent in the secondary. So Mike, I'm really curious.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't hate taking the points of the

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Speaker 1: Raiders here. I do think they're just generally underrated across

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Speaker 1: the board. Will the Chargers come out like they clearly

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Speaker 1: just came out last week and they said we're gonna

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Speaker 1: let Herbert cook. Yeah, so do they go back to

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Speaker 1: their tendency and just and the Raiders would like this,

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Speaker 1: and just are they just going to go back to

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Speaker 1: run heavy let Herbert throw every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how they like handle their

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Speaker 1: pass distribution this year, Like, was that just because it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're playing the Chiefs, we know we got to be aggressive,

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Speaker 1: let's throw. But because Herbert looks so good so and

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Speaker 1: that Raider secondary is pretty poor. So but Gino Smith indoors,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he's always his play goes from like

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Speaker 1: here to here, So getting out of Seattle getting the

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Speaker 1: play indoors now is pretty big. So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: mind taking the points there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Roman turned into like Kevin O'Connell or Sean McVay

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Speaker 2: or Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a crazy thing.

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Speaker 2: It was nuts. Well stuck he man have a good

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Speaker 2: week enjoying no sleep and eating dinner at three am.

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Speaker 1: We'll try and yeah, always a good time.

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Speaker 2: Usually I cook a dinner or do you like just

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Speaker 2: throw something in the microwave or I can't order or anything.

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Speaker 1: I'll cook probably order maybe like once or twice a week.

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Speaker 1: My wife is a really, really, really good cook, So

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Speaker 1: it's usually I cook late and then I'll just eat

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Speaker 1: left overs. But she's pregnant now, so I usually will

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Speaker 1: just cook something up. Sometimes it's just like some trader

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Speaker 1: Joe's frozen meals or but she's a good cook. I'm

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Speaker 1: a decent cook. So I probably cook like two three

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Speaker 1: times a week, order a couple, maybe a frozen meal

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Speaker 1: a couple. But when she's not pregnant, she'll cook three

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Speaker 1: or four times a week, which is nice.

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Speaker 2: And that cooks limitations they have, the limitations they have

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Speaker 2: eating it throws the ies like it's yes, your life's

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Speaker 2: not easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so but she cooked. When she cooks, you'll make

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Speaker 1: like a castor like this big and so then I'll

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Speaker 1: have it for like three days and that's huge during football.

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Speaker 1: Uh So yeah, good ship, good luck this weekend, and

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Speaker 1: uh I'll talk next weekend.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night, and uh talk to everyone Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The volume