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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: how's everybody doing on a Wednesday? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live is your show. Thanks for making it

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Speaker 1: a choice in this time period, which is the bye week,

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Speaker 1: because we're in the thick of it now. As Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott said on Monday, really the only players that are

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Speaker 1: going to be here through the bye week are those

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Speaker 1: rehabbing from injuries. And the hope is that a lot

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Speaker 1: of those guys get the green light to practice again,

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Speaker 1: and I think there will be some players on that list.

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Speaker 1: I think we would safely anticipate that Spencer Brown will

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Speaker 1: return from a rolled ankle to practice next week after

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Speaker 1: missing the Chiefs game. I think we feel pretty good

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Speaker 1: knowing that Matt Mulano's twenty one day practice window ends

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Speaker 1: a week from Friday. Maybe it's the following Monday. No

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Speaker 1: started well, actually it started technically the first day he

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Speaker 1: took the practice field, which would be last Wednesday, So

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Speaker 1: this would be another week even though they're not practicing.

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Speaker 1: Following Wednesday would be two weeks, and then the Wednesday

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Speaker 1: after that would make it three full weeks. But I

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Speaker 1: would think he's considered for the forty nine Ers game,

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Speaker 1: So there will be it will be full blown Bill's

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Speaker 1: health watch. Next week, we'll get back to the grind.

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Speaker 2: That's the story of the bye week. Who's going to

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Speaker 2: be available after the bye week is over? And how

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Speaker 2: close is everybody else going to be who is also injured?

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Speaker 2: They've had that kind of revolving door at all these

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Speaker 2: positions you got, I don't want to Dwayne Carter will

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Speaker 2: be l Carter Smoot Kincaid's coleman uh Milano Coleman I

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Speaker 2: said that, Yeah, so all those guys we got, we

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Speaker 2: gotta and these are guys that we were like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about where we were. Keon was just like he

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Speaker 2: was just about to he was so Carter, he was

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Speaker 2: ready to take off and fly. Carter same thing he

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Speaker 2: was getting. He was getting good.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we.

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Speaker 1: Thought about getting all those guys back. It's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of scrumptious, tantalizing, yes, But so we'll see who was.

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Speaker 1: But we know that Dwayne Carter has already missed the

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Speaker 1: required four games as a player on injured reserve, so

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Speaker 1: he is eligible to be activated to the fifty three

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Speaker 1: man roster when they get back to practice next week.

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Speaker 1: He could practice all week next week and then be

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Speaker 1: activated at the end of the week for the Niners game.

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Speaker 2: Let me just see, let me pump the brakes like

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Speaker 2: for half a second here saying it's never that easy, right,

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna plug. You're not gonna plug Kincaid back

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Speaker 2: in and Coleman back in and Brown all these everything's

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Speaker 2: not just gonna go up four levels. But don't you

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Speaker 2: are gonna have better players in better depth than you

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Speaker 2: thought you had. You found that out. You've got a

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Speaker 2: team that's, you know, ready to go and you're kind

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Speaker 2: of ready to go through. You're ready to go through

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Speaker 2: another cycle of injuries because you got guys you can trust.

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Speaker 2: Now you're really deep. The depth we didn't think about

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Speaker 2: that was like, I don't know at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the year is like, yeah, we're pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's what you know. You still got to find out

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Speaker 2: if you can play really well and you gotta you

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Speaker 2: gotta love the thought of Milano and Bernard in there.

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Speaker 2: You got two guys that can you get an All

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Speaker 2: Pro along with the AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Let's go right, That's that kind of energy. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: but just let me you know, okay, just just let

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Speaker 2: them practice for men. Let's see how they look. I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna turn into the seventy two Dolphins overnight.

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Speaker 1: Is there really the standard just because of.

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Speaker 2: The record, You just it's I'm hyperbalizing. Yeah, bro, I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying it's gonna they're gonna be you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's better. But I don't want to. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to like, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't you don't want to assume anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say, yeah, now they're gonna run

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Speaker 2: the table. Here we go a lot of d D.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was saying that I gotta get.

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Speaker 2: That got that vibe.

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Speaker 1: Not for me.

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Speaker 2: been talking about these injuries.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna hurt. That's all I'm saying. It's gonna help.

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Speaker 2: Right, I will get on board with it's not gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna I am totally with you. It is not

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Speaker 2: going to hurt to have Milano, Brown, Coleman, Kincaid back

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Speaker 2: on the field and Smoot and Carter. It's not gonna hurt. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's all sound Now I feel like a heel.

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Speaker 1: And all I did say was it's going to be scrumptious.

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Speaker 1: We're in We're in the Thanksgiving season. Maybe that's what

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Speaker 1: you and I are, Boulder. I'm certified foodies, and this

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Speaker 1: could be a delicious proposition to the roster going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is tantalizing, as I will say my word.

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Speaker 2: You say your word. You're scrumptuous, I say tantalizing. I

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Speaker 2: would like to see it first, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, uh, yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm hard to imagine a more timely buy than the

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Speaker 2: one we're experiencing. I mean it, man, you talk about

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Speaker 2: hitting hitting the sweet spot, this is it.

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Speaker 1: It's a well timed bye week. I would tend to

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Speaker 1: think any bye week that drops into your schedule between

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Speaker 1: week nine and twelve is probably ideal.

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Speaker 2: The later the better.

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Speaker 1: But you say the last, that's to me, that's the

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Speaker 1: ideal window between week nine and twelve.

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Speaker 2: Well it isn't. Here's the thing though, it is for

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Speaker 2: the Bills this year, but you don't know that in

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Speaker 2: week zero because you're second a week zero And it's like, man,

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Speaker 2: we could have used it right at week six. By

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Speaker 2: week twelve thirteen, you could be two and nine to

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Speaker 2: nine and two. Now, who cares where your bye week is.

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Speaker 2: As long as you can keep in the conversation and

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Speaker 2: get to that point where it's like, man, we really

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Speaker 2: need a break and we need these get that. It

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Speaker 2: is perfect.

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Speaker 1: I also like the fact that it's fit right in

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Speaker 1: between facing the two teams that participated in last year's

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You get Kansas City and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: break would be nice before to facing defending NFC trying.

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Speaker 2: To get it. But I'll say this too, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to. I'm a little I'm a little bit

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Speaker 2: of flex. This is a this is a you know,

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Speaker 2: a little bit. They got to play us too, Yes,

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Speaker 2: they do. They got to play us too. Coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh by the way, are seven and zero off the

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Speaker 1: bye under Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 2: Seven, nobody and ew we're tooling along out here with

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Speaker 2: a six game winning streak, hanging thirty points on everybody

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Speaker 2: on the Chiefs. There's people out there going I wonder

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Speaker 2: where they're going to be. I hope we get in.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to, you know, nobody wants to come

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Speaker 2: into this place. No, so we're on their schedule too.

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Speaker 2: Ro Sleavage.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and in case anyone did not know. The Niners

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Speaker 1: don't have an easy game this week. They're on the

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Speaker 1: road of Green Bay, right, But I I think it

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Speaker 1: is fair to assume that the Niners are going to

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Speaker 1: come in here supremely desperate to win football games. They

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Speaker 1: are five and five, they're at the bottom of their

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Speaker 1: own division. But they're only a game back. And I'll

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Speaker 2: they go, they go five and six in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Oh, lose to Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Lose to Green Bay with five weeks left in the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're yeah, they're gonna be like oh ho ho, and

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Speaker 2: and they may get they might start teetering.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've you've got to have a really strong

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Speaker 2: let's go. But that will test them greatly. They're already

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Speaker 2: being tested right now.

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Speaker 1: They're the right And I I texted back and forth

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Speaker 1: with Greg Papa, played by play man for the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. I said, Hey, with back to

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Speaker 1: Bay in the Eastern time zone? Are they central? I

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Speaker 1: think they're Central. So with two games in the Central

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Speaker 1: And he said, no, that's not going to happen because

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Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving weeks. So he's they're going to come home

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Speaker 1: have let everybody have Thanksgiving with their families. And then

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Speaker 1: so that's two big travel weeks in a row, out

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Speaker 1: to Green Bay and back and then out to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: back to back weeks, a lot of air miles.

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Speaker 2: Think about this last year not Yeah, last year the

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Speaker 2: Bills were five and five, six and six, six and

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Speaker 2: six bye week, they got rid of their offensive coordinator. Well,

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Speaker 2: even people start to when you're a team. Was a

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Speaker 2: couple of the Niners were in the Super Bowl last

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Speaker 2: year and they're five and five. And you can say

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Speaker 2: that's all due to injuries. It's all due that. It

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Speaker 2: is a big part of it. The Bills have had

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Speaker 2: injuries too.

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Speaker 1: Yes they have. The Bills have been losing, been more resourceful.

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Speaker 2: Well, they got a deeper roster probably, Yeah, they got

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Speaker 2: a deeper They got the Niners are.

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Speaker 1: Largely a team of frontline elite plays.

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Speaker 2: They are top heavy. Yes, they are top heavy. And

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Speaker 2: now you've got a guy one of your boss Nick

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Speaker 2: worn out Warners and.

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Speaker 1: Warner's not out. I'm just saying the frontline.

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Speaker 2: Took him forever to get McCaffrey off the off Trent Williams,

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Speaker 2: that's the guy Trent Williams was. They've when you're when

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Speaker 2: you're top heavy like that, it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: You hurt more when the injuries pile up.

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Speaker 2: It's bigger ripples in that that's harder to make up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams, even if they're deep, the first

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Speaker 2: place you see problems is special teams. It's when your

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Speaker 2: top heavy, as the Niners are. You see it every

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Speaker 2: You see it right away on that side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: when those guys go down, right.

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Speaker 1: But I think looking at where the Bills were last year,

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Speaker 1: after twelve games they were six and six, people were

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Speaker 1: kicking dirt on them. Yes, they win their last five,

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Speaker 1: go eleven and six, win the division and win a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. I'm just gonna say this, Niners at five

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Speaker 1: and five. Rudy tom Janovich, former head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets, who were the only team to win back

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Speaker 1: to back championships or championships at all when Jordan was

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Speaker 1: in the two years that Jordan was not playing, said

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Speaker 1: this quote, and it holds true no matter what sports

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Speaker 1: you're playing, never underestimate the heart of a champion. And

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Speaker 1: the Niners aren't Super Bowl champs, but they're NFC champs,

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Speaker 1: and do not dismiss them out of hand because of

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Speaker 1: their record at all.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say this that and this is the point

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Speaker 2: we're making about their their injuries in the way they're built.

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Speaker 2: That heart isn't there if it's in the training room. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they got key sitting down and that's why they're five

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Speaker 2: and five now five and five without Christian McCaffrey and

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Speaker 2: these other guys that are injured. That's that's It's just

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Speaker 2: you know, they're hanging in there in the division with

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Speaker 2: every every other team in their division.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a clog drain division. Everybody's packed together.

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Speaker 1: Bill's Chiefs to draw a giant TV number, Steve, and

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Speaker 2: same thing. Think how folks think of say the Bills

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Speaker 1: The Super that's it's that's how it'll get.

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Speaker 1: Sure, uh, let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills Eagles. Pass

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Speaker 2: Good stuff see great players. So you know you kind

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys on that on this list

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Speaker 1: Great James Harrison's I mean, that guy played forever on

433
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: really good Steelers team.

434
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: Was he was?

435
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: He the MVP of Super Bowl forty? He might He

436
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: had the interception return at the end of the first half.

437
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: He was also a Defensive Player of the Year once

438
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: it wasn't he?

439
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: I think that, dude?

440
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, I do too. I think he's

441
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: a He's a monster.

442
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: He's still a monster. Have you seen him?

443
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: Dude?

444
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: That guy has workouts that some people won't even look at,

445
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: including Navy seals, like he's he's nuts. He's a different cat,

446
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: but certainly Yeah, but he's throwing a hundred pounds battle.

447
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: You know what if that's the way that list should look.

448
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: He's playing volleyball with like a medicine ball. Yeah, he's

449
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: not right.

450
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: That list right there is exactly what a Hall of

451
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Fame list should look like. Those kind of players, all

452
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: of those top to bottoms, A good, very good group,

453
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: very good group.

454
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor I think should deserve some consideration. I don't

455
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: know if i'd put him in right away, but.

456
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that guy was. It took him literally took

457
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: him three and a half to four years to get

458
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: on the field regularly because he was injured some and

459
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: had you know, season enders, and they were weird injuries too.

460
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: He had like a pulled groin that it was like

461
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: just totally ruined him for an entire season early in

462
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: his career. So he was a supremely gifted running back.

463
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, Fred Taylor and Ricky Waters? Is that Are

464
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: they the only two running backs on this Eric Allen

465
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: Jared Allen, Yeah, I think they are.

466
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I will probably need to double check this

467
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: because I'm relying on my memory from almost twenty years ago,

468
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: but if memory serves me correctly, I believe both. No,

469
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: it's only Fred Taylor. Fred Taylor was a pick in

470
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: the first round that the Bills traded to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

471
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: I believe that was the Rob Johnson traded first round

472
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville Jaguars took Fred Taylor. I believe I

473
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: have that correct. And I was gonna say Vince will

474
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: Fork too, but I don't think that's correct. I believe

475
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: the Bills traded a pick to the New England Patriots

476
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: that became Ty Warren, who was another defensive lineman for them.

477
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: So not another Hall of Fame candidate, thankfully. Oh the

478
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: trout it always rings hollow whenever you need it to. Yeah,

479
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: it's Fred Taylor.

480
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: I believe I have that correct.

481
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ty Warren was the other one.

482
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: All right, I'm telling you.

483
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: It's a little more palatable to recall certain elements of

484
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: the drought because it's where we are now.

485
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely I can.

486
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: I can reference it and not purse my lips.

487
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's another thing too. Bills fans are going to

488
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: get a really good chance this weekend to check out

489
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: the next two opponents for the Bills because they they Yeah, obviously,

490
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: the Niners are going to be on in Green Bay,

491
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: and then on Sunday Night Football, the Eagles are out

492
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: in LA to face Matthew Stafford in the Rams, which

493
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: is where the Bills are headed next. So the Rams

494
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: have two home games in a row. Sunday Night Football

495
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: and then the Bills shown up at four point thirty

496
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: next week, so you'll get a chance to see the

497
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: Rams play Poka Nakua and Cooper Cup catching balls from Yeah.

498
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Actually, the game we get at one o'clock on CBS

499
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: is Kansas City of Carolina. Wampitywomp. That's not even going

500
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: to be a game, I know. Uh so maybe we

501
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: get flipped off of that. Of course, what will they

502
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: probably hand us? Probably New England at Miami. And then

503
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: the Fox early game for US is Dallas at Washington.

504
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: Fox late game san Fran at green Bay, So we

505
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: will get to watch San Frant at green Bay late

506
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: in the afternoon on Sunday. If you're in the western

507
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: New York viewing area and just about everywhere else. The

508
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: only place is not getting San Fran at Green Bay

509
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: Arizona because of the Arizona at Seattle game. So anybody,

510
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: anybody in half of Idaho and half of Montana and

511
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: most of Oregon and all of Washington State and most

512
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: of Arizona is getting Arizona at Seattle. Everybody else is

513
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: getting San Fran at Green Bay for the Fox late game.

514
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: So we get the double header on Fox only a

515
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: single game on CBS, which is Kansas City at Carolina. Yuck.

516
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Win that game by fifteen points fifteen and that's a

517
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City team that can't score.

518
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: We'll see now they'll hang thirty on those jokes.

519
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I think so.

520
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll get more, they'll get some, they'll get some turnovers.

521
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 2: Spak Nola's gonna chew that guy up.

522
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, Yeah, we got to take a

523
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, we're gonna be joined

524
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: by ESPN, NFL insider and fantasy football expert Field Yates

525
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: for your Week twelve Ultimate Fantasy Lineup presented by FanDuel.

526
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Field Yates joins us next here on One Bill's Live

527
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

528
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live here on a Wednesday.

529
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Casker with you, and please to welcome

530
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: in now ESPN, NFL insider and fantasy football analyst Field

531
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: Yates for the Week twelve Ultimate Fantasy Lineup presented by Fando,

532
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: an official partner of the Buffalo Bills. Download the app

533
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: today and make every moment more good. Afternoon, Field, I'll

534
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: give you full marks for feeling good about the bills

535
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: chances going into that Week eleven matchup last week with

536
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City. You felt optimistic about the Bills and lo

537
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: and behold, there you are a nine point victory.

538
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the job done. And I thought that

539
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: the situational football is just terreftic from Buffalo last week.

540
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's always easy to say these things after

541
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: the fact, but I was actually sitting there on a

542
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: production call on Sunday during the game, looking ahead to

543
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: some of our Monday programming, and as they are sitting

544
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 3: there at fourth and two, I'm saying, hey, just go

545
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: for it, live with the consequences one way or the other.

546
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: And when you're going to go for it, put the

547
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: hands in the most talented player in the NFL this

548
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: season in terms of what he has done, and that's

549
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, who I think is the NFL's MVP through

550
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: twelve weeks. I love the fact that they said, whatever

551
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: happens here, we're going to live or die by Josh Allen.

552
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: Skillset and just a fantastic, memorable, iconic run there by Josh.

553
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: And I really think Portend's excellent, excellent things for the

554
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: rest of this season, and now the number one seed

555
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: is that much more within reach for Buffalo.

556
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: On and very quickly, if you want to have some

557
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: fun and you have two minutes, look at the all

558
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: twenty two of this play, and take a look at

559
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Mac Collins at the bottom of the screen. Because Josh

560
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: is at the twenty yard line. There is still a

561
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: defensive back, a linebacker, and safety Brian Cook that have

562
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: a shot at Josh, and Mac Collins already has his

563
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: hand in the air signaling touchdown when Josh is at

564
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: the twenty yard lone on the All twenty two tape.

565
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, you know, Mac is sitting there

566
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: saying what we all know, right, which is like when

567
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: there's a train comet, you just get out of the way.

568
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: And Mac's been really solid by the way. I know

569
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: that this is a Josh Allen conversation, but you know,

570
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm still a sucker and for the football team building aspects,

571
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: and I don't think anybody said a thing about Mac

572
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: Collins signing in Buffalo this offseason, right, It's not like

573
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: this is a guy who got a bunch of fanfare

574
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: headlines and he's not a dominant wide receiver one that's

575
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: a good football player, the kind of guy that is

576
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: expected A bunch of those together along with some of

577
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: the st Yeah, no doubt some of the star power

578
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: they have up there on that roster.

579
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: And that's ay.

580
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: You find yourself at nine and two going into your

581
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: bye week and you know, amongst the very best teams

582
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: in the entire league.

583
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun and we're still

584
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: riding the crest of that wave. And you, my friend,

585
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: are still playing daily fantasy. Let's let's get into.

586
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: Your line, die Stevie.

587
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: This is a team that now at seven and three,

588
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: you can't look the other way. Justin Herbert and the

589
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: Chargers with under Jim Harbaugh are a different crew than

590
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: they have been.

591
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: And by the way, get used to a lot of charters.

592
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna do a lot of stacking this week for

593
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: those out there that play daily fantasy football. You know

594
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: the impact that stacking can have. Let's start with Justin

595
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: Herbert as our quarterback, who I knew going into Van

596
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: duel App I said, I'm picking Justin Herbert as my quarterback,

597
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: regardless of what the price is. I was stunned to

598
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: see him priced at just seventy four hundred dollars. It's

599
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: the best matchup in the sport right now for an

600
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: opposing quarterback, as Ravens have just been a disaster defensively

601
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: for almost every game this season. Oddly enough, the only

602
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: game that they played well defensively, it feels like, was

603
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: against the Steelers last week. And I chalk that up

604
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: to them and the Steelers just always playing good games.

605
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: I hate to use the cliche you can throw out

606
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: the record when those two teams play, but you can

607
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: throw out the record when those two teams play. So

608
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: Baltimore defense that has been leaky all year, and I

609
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: talked about this last week with Justin Herbert, is that

610
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: all of a sudden Herbert has thrown the football a

611
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: whole lot more. In his first three games, he failed

612
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: to throw the football more than twenty six times in

613
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: a game. Over his last seven games, he's done it

614
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: in six of them. This is becoming past heavier offense.

615
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: The developments of Lad McConkie and Quinton Johnson played much

616
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: better this year. All leads to good things for the

617
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: Chargers passing offense, which is why spoiler alert, we'll have

618
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: more Chargers later.

619
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: In the lineup.

620
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to running back and there's a

621
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: former Charger there, but he's not playing for that anymore.

622
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: And that's right.

623
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: Look, you're going with teammates here. I've never seen one

624
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: of your lineups like this, This is crazy, that's right.

625
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are the rare running back running back stack

626
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: from the same team. So Austin Eckler at sixty six

627
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: hundred dollars and Brian Robinson Price at seventy nine hundred dollars.

628
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: And basically what I'm saying because I went all of

629
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: this Washington backfield this week. Now, if you look at

630
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: their game last Thursday night, Eckler was the leading receiver

631
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: for the team, both in terms of catches and yards.

632
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: Is that because that's how they want to play offense?

633
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: Or is it because, as you guys probably are aware

634
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: of by now, Philadelphia's corners are just up and up

635
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: and up right now. They're just a very tough duo

636
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: to throw on. So maybe they said, let's not try

637
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: to force the football down the field of Terry McLaurin

638
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: if he's covered it. Instead, let's feast underneath. I don't

639
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: think it'd be quite as much like that this week

640
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: against the Cowboys, but they can run the football against

641
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. You guys watch that game on Monday Night Football.

642
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 3: The Cowboys have been terrible against the run all season.

643
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon had a monster day Cowboys ranked twenty ninth

644
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: in terms of points allowed to opposing running backs. Give

645
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: me both Commanders backs. There might be thirty five points available.

646
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: Let's take advantage of those thirty five points between these

647
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 3: two players.

648
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't look like it's getting better in

649
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Dallas either. It looks like it's circling the door way.

650
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: No way, no happening in And that's that's a great

651
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: matchup to be a part of. Now, go down the

652
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: let's get to the meat of the of the lineup

653
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: and go to the wide receivers.

654
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Quinton Johnson, I mentioned in a minute ago for

655
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: the Chargers sixty one hundred dollars, he's just trending up, man,

656
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: playing better and better and better. You know, I think

657
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous when we give up on players halfway through

658
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: their rookie season, even after their rookie season, But that

659
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: was what happened with Quinton Johnson. Everyone just gave up

660
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: on this guy. Year into his career. People are saying,

661
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: bus City, it's been really good of late.

662
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: I see him.

663
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: Trend has been important. I mentioned the matchup that certainly

664
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: applies to these wide receivers. And then just to give

665
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 3: us a break from Chargers content, Let's go to AJ

666
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Brown price at eighty five hundred dollars. If you guys

667
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: know that Rams secondary very very limited in term of personnel.

668
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: They've given up a ton of passing yards Patriots with

669
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: far less weapons than the Eagles have through for two

670
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty two yards last week. Certainly Drake may

671
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: is a big part of that, and his promise is

672
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: notable for the Patriots, but that secondary in Los Angeles

673
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: leaves much to be desired. So AJ Brown slots in there.

674
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: And then Lad McConkey, let's go right back to the

675
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: Charger as well. Lad McConkie priced at sixty five hundred

676
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 3: dollars coming off of a nine target game this past

677
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: Sunday night, This guy looks awesome. A player who obviously

678
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: was a has got a lot of petrigants, a thirty

679
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: fourth overall pick. So, in the same way that we've

680
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: seen Keon Coleman continue to make progress prior to his

681
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: injury for the Bills, lad McConkie's doing the same thing

682
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: for the Chargers. Big part of that offense, not just

683
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: this week, but I think every week going forward.

684
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: All right, and then tight end low and behold, if.

685
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: The good times roll, the Charger here, guys, I want

686
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: as much of this offense as I can get. That's

687
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: Will Disley and it's you know, the thing about the

688
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: Charger is because there's not a lot of name value

689
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: in these guys, the prices are pretty moderate, right, I mean,

690
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: fifty one hundred dollars for Will Disley sixty five or

691
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: sixty one hundred for either of those two wide receivers.

692
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: Not a big price tag there, which is why you

693
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: can fit some other heavy hitters into this mix. And

694
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: Disley has just been solid. I mean, it's amazing how

695
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: every week it feels like the Chargers are getting contributions

696
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: from a player that either was looked past or just

697
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: downright counted out in a prior stop of his career Disleague.

698
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: You know, a solid player known more for his blocking

699
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: than his receiving during his Seattle days. I would argue,

700
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: is all of a sudden a big factor for them

701
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: in the passing game. At eighty yards and a touchdown

702
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: last week, this offense not afraid to get those tight

703
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: ends involved. So Disley once again back on the radar,

704
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: and that gives us a big budget for our flex position.

705
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: Coming up next.

706
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your flex position. Kevin has just started practicing.

707
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Am I right about that? He's back on the field now, yeah.

708
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: Practice, yeah, yep.

709
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: And they got a bonus practice this week coming out

710
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: of their by to the Buccaneers. So it sounds like

711
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: Mike Evans will give it a go on Sunday against

712
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: the Giants. And you know this Giants team, if you

713
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: look at the raw numbers, it's kind of like middle

714
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: of the pack in terms of how they fared against

715
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: opposing wide receivers this season. But if you look closer

716
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: at it, number one wide receivers specifically have just feasted

717
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: on the Giants for much of this year. They do

718
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: like to deploy their twenty twenty three first round pick

719
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: Deontay Banks as a shadow corner. Frankly, the results have

720
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: not been great. And I think that if he does

721
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: shadow on Sunday, we know it's not going to be

722
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: somebody else besides Mike Evans. If it is Mike Evans,

723
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: he should have no problem. And with Mike, he was

724
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: averaging seven targets per game until they got hurt. Chris

725
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: Godwin was still playing during those games. Chris Godwin being

726
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: out could result in one to two more targets per

727
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: game from Mike Evans, who is amongst the most prolific

728
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: touchdown makers the league has seen in the past ten years.

729
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: Last thing, I'll let you know, Mike Evans, and maybe

730
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers will never admit this out loud, but Mike

731
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: Evans has a streak of one thousand yard seasons to

732
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: begin his career that is literally unrivaled. I'm sure the

733
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: team would love to keep that streak going. He's got

734
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: a long ways to go because of that injury, but

735
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: it is within reach.

736
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: I mean.

737
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: Lastly, Cardinals defense. Guys, this defense playing well, I mean

738
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: they really you guys saw the version of them all

739
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: the way back in Week one. It was, you know,

740
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: much different defense than it is right now. The last

741
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: time we saw the Cardinals, I mean just stacking up

742
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: wins going into their by completely embarrassing the Jets, getting

743
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: after Aaron Rodgers from seemingly every which way in every

744
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: different angles. So this Cardinals defense paying down at thirty

745
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: six hundred dollars not a mad price tag right there,

746
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: and I left three hundred bucks in the bank. And

747
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: there's a very specific reason why, you guys, getting a

748
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: couple of days off over these next few days. So

749
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: I whether you're going to you know, a skating rink

750
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 3: to support on Steve's grandchildren or Brownie your kids wherever

751
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: you guys might be head right now over the next

752
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: few days, you got three hundred dollars to work with.

753
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: That's my gift to you.

754
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: Very nice. I appreciate it.

755
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: He's in a charitable mood. It's the charitable season as we,

756
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, get closer to the holidays here, So Field,

757
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: it fields a giver. He's a giver. I mean, he's

758
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: given us a fantasy lineup right now. He's given us

759
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: some extra cash to boot.

760
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

761
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: Nothing says love like cold hard cash.

762
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: He knows if you win the if you win the

763
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: fantasy daily fantasy with a lineup that you had, three

764
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: hundred bucks is left over. That's that's a pretty good

765
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: that's pretty good week.

766
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: And scale right there, Scale.

767
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: Go all right, Field, Uh, enjoy the week. We'll enjoy

768
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: the buye and we'll catch up with you next week.

769
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: As the Bills get set to face the team from

770
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: the other half of last year's Super Bowl. After beating

771
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they got the Niners in Week thirteen. Here

772
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: at home.

773
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: That'll be a big one.

774
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: Looking forward to them.

775
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: Guys.

776
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: Take care, all right, take it easy. That's Field Yates,

777
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL insider and fantasy football expert, joining us with

778
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: his ultimate fantasy lineup. We've got to take a break here,

779
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: but when we come back, it'll be time for excuse me?

780
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Is it excuse me? Mister Tasker thinks so.

781
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: I think it is.

782
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: We'll have to check, but I believe it is. So

783
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,160
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00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:18,040
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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,959
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786
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,520
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787
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,400
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788
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789
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Speaker 1: Winter is Jennifer, who said, my son is ten and

798
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: just finished his first season of tackle football. What other

799
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: sports did Steve play as a kid? What sports has

800
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: he enjoyed watching his kids and grandchildren play. I'd like

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00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: One Go Bills, One Bill's Live. I think ses sorright.

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00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Though I played everything. We lived in a very small

804
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: rural town, so the opportunities weren't there to play like

805
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: lacrosse and soccer and hockey and summer basement no hockey.

806
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: It was football, basketball, and we ran track and field

807
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: into summer baseball league baseball util you got to you

808
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: got above twelve, and then you couldn't play that either.

809
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 2: But I would say this about the sport I love.

810
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: I all might we have four sons. They all played

811
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: tackle football like your son did. I obviously, but I

812
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: all stand on a soapbox and sing the praises of

813
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: tackle football. I know a lot of people like flag football,

814
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: and that's good for kids, and it allows everybody, but

815
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: for boys and girls. I am a big fan of

816
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: tackle football, particularly and I know this is against the

817
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: grand particularly the younger they are the better. It is

818
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: because the younger they are, the less velocity they have

819
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: and less speed they have, and the less they hurt

820
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: each other when they tackle, the less danger there is

821
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: of it. I tell people, let your kid play tackle football,

822
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: make them quit when they cross that puberty bridge, because

823
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: then you start playing angry. Because I'll say this, I yes,

824
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: there is a physical element to tackle football that isn't

825
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: present in other sports, and I think that's one of

826
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: the reasons you get more benefit from it. Kids learn

827
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: hard lessons in tackle football. They got to practice every day,

828
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: They got to be there whether they feel good or not,

829
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: and they do things and it is a total team effort.

830
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: They have to, sometimes for the first time in their lives,

831
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: accomplish something together. And there's so much in it that

832
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't even have time to get into about. And

833
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: I'll say this too. I was a part of the

834
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: NFL for thirteen years, and even as an NFL player

835
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: on the best team in the league bar none, we

836
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: were sitting there on a game day and you're down

837
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: there stretching, getting ready to play, and you look down

838
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: to the other end of the field as the best

839
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: team in the NFL, and there's a certain element of fear.

840
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: You think, man, those guys look really good. They look great,

841
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they're thinking the same thing about us,

842
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: and being able to stand up and say, listen, let's

843
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: go and have you and your friends on a Saturday morning.

844
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: Go out and take on those guys and play well

845
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: or win or get beat or whatever. The effort in

846
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: it is something. It's the first It's a sport that

847
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: demands kids play when you know, after they get knocked

848
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: down that and they get up and do it willingly

849
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: because they understand, maybe for the first time in their lives,

850
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: somebody outside of them is depending on them to do that.

851
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: Their friends, their teammates, their coaches, and their families they're watching.

852
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: It is lessons about who you really are inside your

853
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: own body and how you can contribute in some way

854
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: that you've got to think of how to do that.

855
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: It is a lesson I think is absolutely life changing

856
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: for young kids. And I get it too. There are

857
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: It does come down a lot of it to great coaches,

858
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: great guys who love their kids on their team who

859
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: look out for their best interests and who are watching

860
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: out for them. Coaches are tantamount to caretakers in this regard,

861
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: no question about it. But I'll tell you this, I

862
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: am a huge fan of letting your kids participate in

863
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: tackle football. The lessons that the game teaches them just

864
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: by making part, whether they win a lot of games

865
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: or lose a lot of games or are almost impossible

866
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: to duplicate even with other good sports. Uh. And it's

867
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: because of the physicality the and I and I want

868
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: to make it. The more you risk, the more you

869
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: get back. And I think football is an example of that. Now,

870
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's for everybody. And I know that

871
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: if you don't want your kid to play it, I

872
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: know it's it's something sometimes you have to talk them

873
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: out of. But and and you should. You should do

874
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: your job as a parent and parent your own child.

875
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: But don't sleep on the benefit and the huge benefits

876
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: that your son or daughter will get from from playing it,

877
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: particularly at a young age, particularly at a young age, because

878
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: they don't move fast enough to really put themselves in

879
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: great danger. And the equip get good, good equipment and

880
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: all that and and they'll be safe. There'll be plenty

881
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: safe enough. And the things they go through to play

882
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: that game and used to get to the game day

883
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: make it all worth it. And I'm a I'm a

884
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: obviously and given my life experiences that you all know about,

885
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: and I'm a huge advocate for it, and my sons

886
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: all did it and they're better men now because of it.

887
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: So that's my yes. And let them play every sport

888
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: you can possibly.

889
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: That was the only thing I was going to add

890
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: to what you said, let them play every sport. And

891
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: know we live in an era of sports specialization where

892
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: a kid is playing one sport from out of the

893
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: womb and nothing else. I would strongly discourage that and

894
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: tell you that you are so much your kid is

895
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: so much better served by playing multiple sports, especially at

896
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: a young age. Play a lot of stuff, and then

897
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: when you get older, that's when you start making decisions

898
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: what do you enjoy playing the most, what might you

899
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 1: be most skilled at, and then start whittling it down

900
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: to maybe two and then maybe by the time you're

901
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: in high school, one sport, especially if you have college aspirations.

902
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: It's a place.

903
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this too, don't be afraid to make

904
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: your sport of choice using the criteria of hey, what's

905
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: best for my family my schedule. I mean, I'm mom

906
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: and dad can't drive me to practice every day, and

907
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: I'll do something else, or.

908
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: My mom and dad or my mom and or dad

909
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: have to work seven days a week in the summertime,

910
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: so baseball is really not an option anymore. I'll play,

911
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: I'll go heavy in the fall sports and lay something else.

912
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: You don't owe the sport anything just to take part

913
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: in it. Take part in it because it's fun and you

914
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: can do it, and if you're good at it, awesome.

915
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: But playing multiple sports at a young age will make

916
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: you a better athlete for whatever you play singularly when

917
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: you're old.

918
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, soccer, basketball, football, we were in track and field, baseball.

919
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: The whole thing is, yeah, take part as much as

920
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: you can. I'm a big fan of that. And if

921
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: they don't want you to do that, if you don't,

922
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: let find a level that will allow you to do

923
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: it when you want to do it.

924
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

925
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: we will begin our number two here on a Buffalo

926
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: Football Wednesday, and look with our abbreviated week here on

927
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: the bye week because Steve and I this is getaway

928
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: day for us. We have Thursday and Friday off. So

929
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: who did we sandwich into the Wednesday schedule? Our good

930
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: friend Greg Cosell, senior producer from NFL film Since we

931
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: have no show Friday, he's going to join us next

932
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday on one Bill's Live. Stay with

933
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: Us Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker our number two

934
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: of a Wednesday edition. It's a getaway day for us

935
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: because here on this bye week we will have no

936
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: show tomorrow or Friday. So kind enough to adjust his

937
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: schedule and join us as he does every week, even

938
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: in an abbreviated one. Is our good friend, senior producer

939
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: from NFL Films, Greg Cosell joining us and Greg, I

940
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: know it's a couple of days in the Rearview Mirror

941
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: and Greg's weekly segment incidentally presented by Scout Scott Lonyard,

942
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: an official commercial site work partner of the Buffalo Bills.

943
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: I know it's a couple of days in the Rearview Mirror, Greg,

944
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: but really as tight a performance as Buffalo could have

945
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: played in a game where margin for error is minimal,

946
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: just your overarching thought about the Bill's performance front to back,

947
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: all three phases. I mean, yes, Josh had the interception,

948
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: but as far as making mental errors and mistakes in

949
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: this game, the Bills were pretty buttoned up.

950
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 4: It seemed, well, Brownie, just before we start, I just

951
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: got to say that, you know, after hearing you, I

952
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 4: gotta say, you're a beast with a Capitol Bill.

953
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that you got me on that one.

954
00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it was I'm never surprised by the

955
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: Bills offense just because Josh Allen can do special things.

956
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 4: They couldn't run the ball very effectively. Also, the game

957
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: really came down to Josh. I think he had forty

958
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: five dropbacks in the game, which my guess would be

959
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: that that's not what the game plan was going in.

960
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: But they really couldn't run the ball, which you know,

961
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 4: may have been a surprise, may not have been a

962
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: surprise given the quality of the defense they were playing against.

963
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: And again, the interception was kind of a flukey play.

964
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: Clearly Josh felt that Knox would continue to on that

965
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 4: route and he didn't. It obviously didn't, you know, have

966
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: a major impact on the game, but it was a

967
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 4: pretty buttoned up performance by Josh. There were no negative

968
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: plays really. You know, it's funny I looked, and this

969
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: is a larger statement that I'll make a comment about

970
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 4: the defense. But he's only been sacked thirteen times in

971
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: eleven games, and that's pretty remarkable given that he's not

972
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: at his core, you know, a true timing rhythm player

973
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: like you think of it Drew Brees or a Tom Brady.

974
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: To only be sacked thirteen times is probably a testament

975
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: to a number of things. O line, Josh, you know

976
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: many things. But you know, I think in a game

977
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: like that, you just can't get stuck with bad plays.

978
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 4: It's one thing theft to punt, but you can't get stuck.

979
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: And they didn't get stuck. And I thought he also

980
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 4: made some really really good plays too. I mean, you know,

981
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: I thought that the second completion to Cooper, the one

982
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 4: that got challenged, was I mean, that was zero coverage,

983
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: zero pressure. He had to throw that ball super early

984
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: because Cooper ran slugo, which is not normally a route

985
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: you run if it's blitz. Maybe he didn't realize it.

986
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: You know, that's a route that takes time, and Josh

987
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: had to throw that ball so early. And it was

988
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: placed perfectly. But just to make a comment on the defense,

989
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 4: watching the tape, I thought that their defense throughout the

990
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: game featured a lot of communication late movement. It was

991
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: evident that changing the picture pre snap to post snap

992
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: was a signal part of their game plan. And they

993
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 4: really didn't get caught there either with mistakes. And that's

994
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 4: hard to do because normally, if you're going to have

995
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: a lot of communication, somewhere along the line there's a

996
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: mistake that's problematic. There may have been one, I'm trying

997
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: to thinks I think maybe unworthy. He was actually at

998
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: a bounce on the play, but I think they got

999
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 4: stuck there a little bit. But for the most part,

1000
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: they did not.

1001
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a game too where when you

1002
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: talk about the Bills offense, it comes down to Steve

1003
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: spag Nolan is you know that defense is hard to

1004
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: play against and this was another one of those plays.

1005
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: Although the Bills end up in this game scoring thirty

1006
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: points on the for the first time in thirty whatever

1007
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: thirty three games it was before this by the Chiefs.

1008
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: What led to the Bill's ability to move the ball?

1009
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: I know they were really good on third down sixty

1010
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 2: percent nine, kid, and half of their third downs, Brownie says,

1011
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: half of their third down eight or more. Yeah, they

1012
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: were third and eight or more.

1013
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1014
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: But why is it the Bills now are doing that

1015
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: because they weren't. They weren't converting third downs like this

1016
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 2: early in the season.

1017
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 4: Last four games, Steve, they've been twenty nine for fifty four,

1018
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: which is almost fifty four percent third down, which, of course,

1019
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: as we know, and we've discussed, they were really good

1020
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 4: on third down what maybe the last three years, last years, Yeah, yeah,

1021
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: you know, the early part of this season they've been

1022
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: they were poor. But the last four games they've been

1023
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 4: really really good. And that's you know, and it's funny

1024
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 4: because if you look at Josh Allen stats on third

1025
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: down in those last four games, it's not like you go,

1026
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 4: oh my god, he's been killing it on third down,

1027
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: but they make enough of them, and you always have

1028
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: the Allen factor, you know, with his movement ability. I mean,

1029
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 4: even the touchdown to Samuel the first one in the

1030
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: fourth quarter did not come on third down, but that

1031
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 4: was another zero coverage, zero pressure play where he moved

1032
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: away from a free hitter. Connor was free on this one.

1033
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 4: We're seeing it right here, and it was a great

1034
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: catch by Samuel. They ran mesh, which of course is

1035
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: the same thing they ran on the fourth and two

1036
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 4: when they expected man and they got zoned. But yeah,

1037
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: I mean they've just been really, really efficient on third down.

1038
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: And when you're fishing on third down, even if your

1039
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: overall offensive numbers aren't great, you can still you know,

1040
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: you still sustain offense, and you still move the ball.

1041
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: And as we know, even though they didn't really sustain

1042
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 4: with the run game in this game, they've been able

1043
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 4: to pretty much sustain with the run game in previous weeks.

1044
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: Getting back to what you said about Josh not being sacked,

1045
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 1: the Bills were first in the league and sacks allowed

1046
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: last year on offense, and it's due part to the

1047
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: fact that I think their offensive line has stayed remarkably

1048
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: healthy since last year. Knock on wood. I don't think

1049
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: they had any man games lost to injury last year.

1050
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: They did have one last week, lost by Spencer Brown

1051
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: and Osiris Torrance and Ryan Vandermark on the right side

1052
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: of the line. There were times where they left Torrance

1053
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: and one on ones with Chris Jones, and he looked

1054
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: like he could handle it at times, which is saying

1055
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: something because nobody really does that going against Chris Jones

1056
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: number one and then number two. Just your thoughts on

1057
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: Vandermark's performance over there on the edge on the right side.

1058
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was really good. I mean, let's

1059
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: just get back to Torrance for a second, because forty

1060
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: five dropbacks by Josh Allen, Chris Jones as a pass

1061
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 4: rusher was a non factor in the game. He made

1062
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 4: a couple of plays in the run game that you

1063
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: know were Chris Jones plays, but as a pass rusher,

1064
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 4: he was really not a factor in the game. Right.

1065
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: Can you remember any guys where he.

1066
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: Was really maybe a pressure or something, But yeah, he

1067
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a Yeah, but.

1068
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: What I mean because normally he's the kind of guy

1069
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: that can wreck your game, yes, particularly in critical situations,

1070
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 4: and that was not the case at all. So Torrance,

1071
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 4: you're right. I did notice that watching the tape that

1072
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 4: they let Torrance block him one on one on numerous plays. Uh,

1073
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: And he did a really really good job and even

1074
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 4: vandom market right tackle, he wasn't really beat to the

1075
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: point where he went moy that's that's going to be

1076
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: a struggle today. That wasn't the case at all. Now,

1077
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 4: the run game overall, they just they just couldn't run

1078
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: the ball. I mean that that was a situation where

1079
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: the Chiefs defense really did a good job.

1080
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a top three run defense.

1081
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, I'm not. I'm not saying that this

1082
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: is a knock on the Bills. You know, the Chiefs

1083
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: are really really good on defense. I mean, just to

1084
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: score thirty points against them is and to go nine

1085
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 4: for sixteen I think, or nine for fifteen whatever it

1086
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 4: was on third down is really impressive.

1087
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to ask you about the Bills

1088
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: running game because fans like, I mean, I'm sitting there

1089
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: watching this game and there's they came handing it off

1090
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: on first down for zero yards or one yard or

1091
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: a half a yard or miney, you know what I mean.

1092
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: It was pretty frustrating. But because it's such a tight game,

1093
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: they're not desperate to score points. They're trying to know,

1094
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: what what are the Bills.

1095
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: They have thirty four minutes in time of possession at

1096
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: the end, What are the.

1097
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: Bill's getting out of that run game if it's not yards?

1098
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's always a great question. And as

1099
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: you know, Steve, you've been doing this a long time.

1100
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of coordinators who believe that, hey,

1101
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: if we're not running the ball, it's a band in

1102
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: the run and you know, let's just start tossing it

1103
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: all over the yard. But the one thing to keep

1104
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: in mind, too is you do have Josh Allen who

1105
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: can make plays. Okay, and I know that's cliched, but

1106
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 4: it's true. But the other thing about the run game,

1107
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: and when you're playing against you know, another offense that

1108
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 4: does have a great quarterback and can he can make

1109
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: special plays at any time, is you're also trying to

1110
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: control the pace and tempo of the game. Brownie just

1111
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: hit on a great point, Steve. They control the ball

1112
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: for thirty minutes without a run game. That's hard to do.

1113
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: But if you can control the pace and tempo of

1114
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: the game, the whole feel of the game changes for

1115
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: the opposing offense, even if your quarterback is Patrick Mahomes.

1116
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: It's just it's just human nature. So you know, you

1117
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 4: start you eat clock a little bit. Not that the

1118
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 4: goals to eat clock the goals to score touchdowns, obviously,

1119
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: but you know, you just the game is played sort

1120
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: of at your pace and at your tempo. You know, Steve,

1121
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: there's nothing worse than a three and out where you

1122
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 4: throw the ball three times and there's three incompletions. I mean,

1123
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: it feels like the whole game changes when that happens,

1124
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: because twelve seconds go off the clock, and you know,

1125
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: and it just feels like it's a bad deal all

1126
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: the way around.

1127
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like the possession never happened.

1128
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great way to say it. And you're one

1129
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: hundred percent right. Yeah.

1130
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of the run game, though, Greg, one area where

1131
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: they have consistently run well is in the low red zone,

1132
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: which most people most teams have a big problem running

1133
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: the ball consistently down there. My question to you is

1134
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: do you feel that the offensive line should get full

1135
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: marks for that or does Josh Allen and the concern

1136
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 1: for him aid the team in running in the low

1137
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: red zone because he's not the one doing the running

1138
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: nearly as much as he did last year. It's mostly

1139
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: cook now.

1140
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: I think it's a combination, though, because you have to

1141
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 4: account in the way you line up defensively for the

1142
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: Josh factor and the other thing I'd add to that,

1143
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: and it was evident on the second Cook run. But

1144
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: I think we've seen it all season. I think you

1145
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 4: guys would agree James Cook is a little tougher physically

1146
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: than his size might indicate. I mean that second touchdown run,

1147
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: I forget who he ran.

1148
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: Through over, Yeah, Brian Cook.

1149
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean, and Brian Cook's not a small

1150
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: safety by the way, so you know Cook is. We're

1151
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 4: not going to compare Cook to Emmitt Smith here, but

1152
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know teams that can run the ball

1153
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: in the low red zone. You know that was true

1154
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 4: of those Cowboys teams. I mean, what happens is the

1155
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 4: quarterback ends up not throwing a ton of touchdowns, and

1156
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: it feels like Josh has been kind of stuck on.

1157
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess he threw one this week, so

1158
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 4: he's up to eighteen. But you know, it always seemed

1159
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: as if he'd either get a running touchdown or a

1160
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: passing touchdown when they got in the red zone. Brownie, right.

1161
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: And now they give the ball to James Cook and

1162
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 4: he scores.

1163
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: He's got eleven touchdowns. One of the things too, both

1164
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: his touchdowns. I said this earlier in the week. How

1165
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: much of a difference does it make, Greg when you've

1166
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: got a running back who he outran the guys to

1167
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: the pylon, and he does that occasionally as well. But

1168
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: then also he's gone up in between the guards, I mean,

1169
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: and he's getting a physical run like that done. Having

1170
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: a guy that does both of those things, what that's

1171
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: got to change it for the And then Josh, you

1172
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: got a mule, yeah, who's absolutely playing quarterback. So that

1173
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: changes things for the defense, right.

1174
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 4: It sure does because you know, keep in mind the

1175
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: Josh factor there. You know, the edges of the defense.

1176
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: Guys just you know, they can't just squeeze everybody inside, right,

1177
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: because then Josh just gets around the edge and it's

1178
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: a walk in. I mean, we've seen that with other quarterbacks.

1179
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 4: You know, you see that with the Kyler Murray's of

1180
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: the world, the Jalen Hurts of the world. You know,

1181
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 4: you just can't do that. So you know, it all

1182
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: ties together, and you know, I think offensive linemen, you know,

1183
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 4: obviously take great pride in being able to run the

1184
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 4: ball because that's where it's just pure physicality. I mean,

1185
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: obviously there's technique and it's coach and all that, but

1186
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: I mean when you start getting into the seven, six,

1187
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 4: five to four yard line, you know, then you just

1188
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: have You're just trying out physical whoever you're playing against it.

1189
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 4: We're not trying to look pretty, right.

1190
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: Takeaways have been a key component for the success of

1191
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense greg they lead the league in takeaways with

1192
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: twenty one. They have the best turnover margin in the league.

1193
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: It's obviously been a big factor in why the defense

1194
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: has been as successful as they've been, because they don't

1195
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: wow you with the other numbers like total defense, run defense,

1196
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: pass defense, third down defense. None of that is even

1197
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: in the top five, let alone the top ten in

1198
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: many cases. And they've gotten at least one takeaway in

1199
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: every game this season, which is the longest streak in

1200
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: the NFL by far, and they've had multiple takeaways in

1201
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: seven of their eleven games. My concern is a can

1202
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: it continue? And if it doesn't, is there enough under

1203
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: the hood there for them to still be a formidable

1204
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: defensive group.

1205
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a hard question to answer. I mean,

1206
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 4: obviously takeaways can change games. Look, they got to take

1207
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: away right away on the second play of the game.

1208
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 4: But you know, and they're not a heavy blitz team

1209
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 4: like you know. It's funny because you don't come away

1210
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 4: from watching them going, man, they just do some really

1211
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 4: cool stuff. I think what they do and I've actually

1212
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: heard Bill Belichick talk about this because he's in our

1213
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: building every week now and I've heard him talk about

1214
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: it that with Sean, there's a lot more sort of

1215
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: subtlety to what they do as opposed to you know,

1216
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 4: like a Rex Ryan defense where you just see all

1217
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 4: kinds of blitzes. You know, they're not really like that,

1218
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: but yet there's subtlety on the back end. I talked

1219
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 4: about the communication and the pre to post snap movement.

1220
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: I mean, those are more subtle things, and that's really

1221
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: the way they play now. I think Rousseau has really

1222
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: kind of developed into a pretty four nomitable edge rusher.

1223
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 4: And obviously von Miller played I think over twenty snaps

1224
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 4: and there were snaps in addition to the sack in

1225
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: which he was you notice that he was out there.

1226
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 4: But they're predominantly a four man D line pass rush. Now, again,

1227
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: this game is different than most because they did spy

1228
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: a bit. They was Bernard actually had a sack in

1229
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 4: which he was a spy on third and five on

1230
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 4: the second possession of the game, where Mahomes actually left

1231
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 4: the pocket to his left. But yeah, they're not one

1232
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 4: of those you know, like exotic fan you know the

1233
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 4: way I would almost describe it. And I'm sure there's

1234
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 4: a lot of detail that I don't know about because

1235
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm not in their meeting rooms. But they're more of

1236
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 4: a vanilla defense than an aggressive exotic defense.

1237
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about the Bills pass rush. I

1238
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: mean you've got a j Panessa, You've got Javon Solomon

1239
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: von Miller, Greg Russeau, Casey two Hill on the edges,

1240
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: and then down inside with Ed Oliver, D, Kwon Jones,

1241
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: Austin Johnson, give us your I mean, where would you

1242
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: just buy the Where do you observe they fall? How

1243
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: good are they comparison to everybody else? And how big

1244
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: of an effect do they consistently have?

1245
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think they're I think they're consistent week to

1246
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 4: week in what they do. As I said, I think

1247
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: Rousseau has become I mean he's not you know JJ

1248
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: Watt or I mean t J. Watter or Miles Garrett

1249
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 4: or you know Nick Bosa, but I think he's become

1250
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: a pretty strong edge pass rusher. And then inside, I

1251
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 4: think they all have moments. I think Oliver's moments, Steklon

1252
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 4: Jones has moments, you know. But but I don't know

1253
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 4: if I Steve would say that they're a top five

1254
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 4: four man D line pass rush unit in the league.

1255
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 4: But I think they can pressure, you know, and I

1256
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 4: think it does start with Rousseau, and he plays on

1257
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 4: both sides.

1258
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and actually it might be surprised to know that

1259
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: going into last week's game, Rousseau had just as many

1260
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: quarterback knockdowns as Miles get Miles Garrett and Nick Bosa.

1261
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 4: He was, yeah, there you go, you know, so, and

1262
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: I'd be curious, you know, and if you talk to

1263
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators how they view him, because I've always felt

1264
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 4: that very often the way you evaluate a pass rusher

1265
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: is not necessarily his sacks, sometimes not even the pressures,

1266
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 4: although that's good, but how offenses account for them. Because

1267
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: if our offenses have to account for them by deploying

1268
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: more people, you know, chippers, or keep someone in, or

1269
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 4: change their formation by putting a tight end there which

1270
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 4: limits what they can do formationally, that to me is

1271
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 4: always more of a sign of the value of a

1272
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: pass rusher than just oh, you know, what's what's really

1273
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 4: the difference when a rusher rushes four hundred times in

1274
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 4: a season between eleven sacks and fourteen sacks. Is that

1275
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 4: really a meaningful difference when there's four hundred pass rushers.

1276
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's a fair question.

1277
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: Well, last one for me, we're kind of starting to

1278
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: see on the horizon. We've got a bye week. Brownie

1279
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: and I are taking off the rest of the week

1280
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: after of the day, so there's you know, but the

1281
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are playing this weekend against Green Bay.

1282
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, Nick Bosa came up lame this last week

1283
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: and the minute he came up lame, Jamis wins. I'm sorry.

1284
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: It was a Geno Smith.

1285
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: You know Smith, they're a whole defense change because they

1286
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 4: are a pure four man D line pass rush team.

1287
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 4: They had one pass rush in that game in which

1288
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Speaker 4: they rushed five and they've been that way all season long.

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Speaker 4: So with Bosa out, unless they're going to change up

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Speaker 4: this week against green Bay in Green Bay, if Bosa

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Speaker 4: can't go, I don't know, you know, we're talking on

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Speaker 4: a Wednesday. I don't know what his status is. Obviously

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Speaker 4: they're on the West Coast, so they haven't even practiced yet.

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Speaker 4: But you know, unless they change up that's the way

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 4: they played all season, and if he can't go, their

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01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 4: past rush really becomes limited.

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Speaker 1: Greg, thanks as always. Will enjoy the bye. You enjoy

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Speaker 1: week twelve, and.

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Speaker 4: I don't get a bye week, Brownie.

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Speaker 1: I know you know. That's why I said you enjoy

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Speaker 1: week twelve. We'll get the buye and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you in week thirteen.

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Speaker 2: No rest, Greg, there is no rest for the wicked.

1304
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, all right.

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Speaker 4: All right, right, jo, I appreciate that I was with

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01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 4: you guys today. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, happy to have you. That's Greg co Sel, senior

1308
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: producer from NFL Films, and he'll be diving into the

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01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: week twelve slate. I mean, so will we, but just

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: not for work. We won't be working. We'll be kicking

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Speaker 1: back and enjoying. We'll be this is these are one.

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: This is one of the few weeks where we actually

1313
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: watch a football game and might have a drink in

1314
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: our hand and a bag of chips by ourselves.

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: Say, I was I got here ten am for the

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Speaker 2: four thirty game?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you were?

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Speaker 2: And you know we can't drink because you know, we

1319
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: do live post game and all that.

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: So got to have your wits about. Yeah, so it's

1321
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: sound relatively coherent whether.

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Speaker 2: Well, whether I'm drinking or not, I mean it's a struggle.

1323
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: So but you know, you walk around, you walk around

1324
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: one Bill's Drive at any any direction on a game

1325
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: day and you're gonna get offered a beer two.

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: Now, which is gonna happen in a beer drinking town

1327
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: like Buffalo. So it was you gotta know what you're

1328
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: in for, and you know, yeah, you gotta have a

1329
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: be professional and have proper willpower. That's what you gotta do.

1330
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned this, but with this being our last

1331
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: show of the week, we thought we would also open

1332
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: up the OBL mail Bag. I'm not calling it the

1333
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: OBL Friday mail Bag, but it's the Obel fan mail

1334
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: Bag and we're doing it here on Wednesday, since this

1335
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: is our last show of the week, And if you

1336
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: want to chime in at eight oh three oh five

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01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: you're welcome to do that, as we do have open

1339
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: lines for you there if you have any question about

1340
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: the Bills, the league at large, whatever it might be

1341
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: matchups this weekend, but we'll go to the submissions at

1342
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: one Bills live on Twitter X whatever you call it

1343
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: these days, and Sarah asks, if the Bills are up

1344
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: multiple scores, would you purposefully not want to touch back

1345
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: on kickoffs to get more practice reps on fielding kickoffs

1346
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: heading into the postseason. This is an excellent question, and

1347
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: we were just touching on this earlier.

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Speaker 2: I would say yes, if you're in if you're in

1349
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: a laugher, well, the other team's kicking off, so they

1350
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: just scored, So there's always that little I don't know,

1351
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: you know, if it's but if it if it's thirty

1352
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: eight to, then they just scored a first field goal. Yeah,

1353
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: I would. I would tell you, guys, we need some

1354
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: live reps.

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Speaker 1: More importantly to cover the kicks for all the touchdowns

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Speaker 1: your score.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and also cover kicks. That's it's not a bad idea,

1358
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: although you'd be you know, you've got some pretty pressing

1359
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: issues going on at any given moment on your offense

1360
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: or defense, and you don't want to put your offense

1361
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: out there up and unless you know, unless you got

1362
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: the whole second team in there, and even then you

1363
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: know there's still your guys, you're not to give them

1364
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: the ball on the eight yard line, you know, because

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: games have a tendency to turn around, and you're talking

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: about maybe one or two reps. Now one or two

1367
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: reps is still one or two reps, and maybe it'll

1368
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 2: teach you some stuff about your front line. But I

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 2: it's an intriguing point that you make because it is

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01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: no secret, and Branni and I talk about it, but

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Speaker 2: we're not We didn't invent it. The best teams are

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Speaker 2: the ones that had the most live reps in special teams,

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: particularly on kickoff kickoff return.

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Speaker 1: And as we've seen in some of the lopsided victories

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Speaker 1: this year for the Bills, they have put second teamers

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01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: on the field on defense and offense. So I think

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: coach McDermott would be completely open to doing some of

1378
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: that on special teams as well, in terms of getting

1379
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: his team live reps instead of booting it through the

1380
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Speaker 1: back of the end zone. Tyler Bass leads the league

1381
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Speaker 1: in touchbacks. Yeah, because that has been their approach pretty

1382
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: much from the jump at the beginning of the season.

1383
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Speaker 1: And yes, two of the next three games are indoors,

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: so that approach can safely continue. You but you're gonna

1385
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs in January when the ball is

1386
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: a rock and it's twenty four degrees and it's not

1387
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna fly as far, and you're gonna have to cover

1388
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: some kicks. So covering some reps might be a good

1389
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: idea if they get up in a game in a

1390
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: situation like this. So good question, Sarah. I like that

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01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: one a lot. Jacob asks, when a team scripts it's

1392
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: first ten plays of a game, how much of that

1393
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: is predicated upon the success of the previous play? Example,

1394
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: run ball on first down for no gain versus running

1395
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: for six yard gain. Does team still use the same

1396
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: scripted play independent of the previous outcome?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I would. No, second and ten plays are

1398
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: different than your second and sixth place or second and

1399
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,879
Speaker 2: four plays. And here's what it is, though the script

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Speaker 2: You talk about these plays as much as you can,

1401
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: and when you get into the conversation about hey, here's

1402
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: what we want to do, you'll go through, Hey, if

1403
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: it's first and ten, these are the plays we really like,

1404
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: and you'll have a list of twenty. They'll have a

1405
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: philosophy behind them, and they'll have some reasoning, and you

1406
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: have different subsets amongst those twenty plays. For first down,

1407
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: then second and ten is also a group, and you'll

1408
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 2: have a menu of those plays and a second and

1409
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: four group. It'll be like second and three to seven

1410
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: and second and seven plus will be a group. And

1411
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: then you'll have third down short, third down medium, third

1412
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: down long plays as well. And that's the kind of

1413
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: script we're talking about. But when you're going down and

1414
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: you're on schedule, so it goes first and ten, second

1415
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: and five, third and one, you've got a short list

1416
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: that you've talked about all of these plays in specific.

1417
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: So if you stay on schedule, the script is known

1418
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: and you stay on it, and it tells you things

1419
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: not only about what you're gonna be able to do,

1420
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: but also what the defense thinks of your offense. That's

1421
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: why they script it. They use specific motions and shifts

1422
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: to find out what the defense thinks about your personnel.

1423
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: Who do they not want to get isoed on Kincaid,

1424
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: Who do they not want to have Manna man coverage

1425
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: against Amari Cooper? Who do they not want to be

1426
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: left alone in single coverage. That'll tell you that information,

1427
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 2: so you can use that later on to get a

1428
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: guy in isolation or over here and either use that

1429
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: to your benefit or fake them into covering him and

1430
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: throwing it somewhere else. All that stuff goes into the mix.

1431
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: But the once you get off schedule, you have to

1432
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: go off script. Now, I guess it's simple. I could

1433
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: have said that whole thing in that one sentence.

1434
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you put in some important, pertinent details, so

1435
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 1: that thank you lends texture to your answer.

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for you know, give me some confidence there. I

1437
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1438
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: Well done. Got to take a break here, But more

1439
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: of your questions from the mailbag, and if you have

1440
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: one on your mind and you want to call in

1441
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: real quick, you can do that as well. Open lines

1442
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: for you at eight h three oh five fifty one

1443
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the numbers

1444
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: to get on board. We'll take a break here, be

1445
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: back with more. Stay tuned Bill's fans. You could win

1446
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: a trip to Super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans

1447
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: and are now at Buffalo bills dot com forward slash

1448
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl Sweeps to be entered to win a trip

1449
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: for two to the Super Bowl including flights and hotels.

1450
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: Good luck, it'd be a heck of a week. It's

1451
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: normOn down there in the Big Easy, It's New Orleans.

1452
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: This year, get out of the weather.

1453
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: LA. Next year Atlanta.

1454
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: Then I'm not a huge fan of Sofi Stadium. Yeah,

1455
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: not a big fan.

1456
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: There you go and Atlanta in twenty twenty eight and.

1457
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: We got to go there in a couple of weeks.

1458
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: You want to know why I'm not a fan of

1459
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium? Why?

1460
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: First of all, broadcast booth is it?

1461
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 1: Well, that's it that it's on the list.

1462
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: Is ten miles off the coast.

1463
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 1: Well we'll get to that in a second. The first

1464
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: problem is they made it a quote unquote open air stadium,

1465
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: right because along the top rim because this it's built

1466
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: into the ground much like it's a huge pit, much

1467
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: like high Mark, but even deeper. It's really the the

1468
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: only the thing is, yeah, like the five hundred level

1469
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: is the only level that's technically above ground. And right

1470
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: above the five hundred level is the open air portion

1471
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: where you have these you know, you have these little

1472
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: doned openings all the way around, kind of like an

1473
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: old school facade, and that is supposed to cool the

1474
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: entire stadium of open air.

1475
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: It's inadequate.

1476
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: They built it in a desert. Dude. We remember La,

1477
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: like we went there for the season kickoff game in

1478
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to start the season Week one Thursday

1479
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: night game, the kickoff game. It was a night game.

1480
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: We were melting, dude, Like the closed areas press box

1481
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: that's ac you know, they're climate controlled, and some of

1482
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 1: the suites that are closed I'm sure have climate control also,

1483
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: but if you're down in those seats, it is toasty like.

1484
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 1: It was an epic fail from a climate Not to

1485
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: mention the fact that you have a translucent roof, so

1486
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: day games you're in a greenhouse. And then yes, I

1487
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: will submit at the end that the radio booth is

1488
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone, so you're completely

1489
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: dependent on the line judge to know where the line

1490
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: of scrimmage is after a run play when they're at

1491
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: the other end of the field running away from you.

1492
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: Nobody cares, No, nobody does.

1493
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: Nobody cares. I was sitting next to our we were

1494
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: sitting next to our Spanish friends from the Spanish radio

1495
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: for the for the Chargers last year, right, and I said,

1496
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: is this where they stick you guys every I mean

1497
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: they're the home radio. They're right next to me, I said,

1498
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: every week. And he's like, oh yeah, he said, see yeah,

1499
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: see it's this amount of every every week. Yeah. Yeah,

1500
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: so it's this amount of alt he was going, Yeah,

1501
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: he said every week. We're down here. So it's an

1502
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: adjustment for sure. Not a huge fan. Hopefully, if we're

1503
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: ever fortunate enough to call a super Bowl there, they

1504
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: would I would hope they would move us somewhere better.

1505
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's the most important. Well, oh, you'll be worse.

1506
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: We're radio who they don't care about.

1507
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: You watch it on the home, watch on a monitor,

1508
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 2: calling it off, calling off a monitor.

1509
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna be in the building. Uh yeah,

1510
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: let's hope that.

1511
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1512
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: We got to get back to some of the questions here,

1513
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: uh from the fan mail bag, which you can still

1514
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, fire off a question if you want. But

1515
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 1: we've got We've had some good ones today. I'm actually

1516
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: pretty pleased. Here's another good one from Jacob with a

1517
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: healthy Milano, Bernard and Williams. Could you see the Bills

1518
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: playing all three linebackers against thirteen personnel? Could you sit

1519
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: Hamling or sit one of the outside corners or move

1520
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: number seven outside against thirteen personnel? Yes? I could totally

1521
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: see them playing base defense. The reason why is because

1522
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: Milano Williams and Bernard are all athletic enough to cover

1523
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: a tight end, right, So yes against thirteen personnel, absolutely,

1524
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: and that would happen as Terran would come off the field.

1525
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:32,879
Speaker 2: That would dictate three linebackers without Milano. You go, thirteen personnel. Yeah,

1526
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 2: I mean they'll put a guy in there now at times,

1527
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 2: so yeah that, yes, that could happen against thirteen personnel,

1528
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: but don't look forward to put it out there against

1529
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: eleven or twelve personnel. They like having Terry even twenty

1530
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: two personnel.

1531
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very valuable nickel corner, but he's

1532
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,879
Speaker 1: also an excellent run defender.

1533
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason. That's the reason he's theirs. He

1534
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: lies up in the run.

1535
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: I think if you ask yourself what has changed with

1536
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: Milano out of the lineup for the better part of

1537
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: the last two seasons, and you would say Dorian Williams

1538
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: has kind of proven himself as an athletic defender, and

1539
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm okay with him covering a tight end. I really am. Yeah,

1540
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: he's Milano or Bernard, all three of them.

1541
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: And here's and what you can do as well, now

1542
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 2: that you've got Bernard's not coming off the field, no,

1543
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: but you can rotate and if Mlonal comes back and

1544
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: they want to get his feet wet, you have no

1545
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 2: problem rotating those guys in and out in certain situations

1546
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: and give him Milano a chance to get up to

1547
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 2: speed and start feeling it, because I don't think there's

1548
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,799
Speaker 2: anybody in the building that does not trust Dorian Williams.

1549
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 5: Not.

1550
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: Now he's like one of the leading tacklers every week,

1551
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: which that guy would anticipate from the linebacker spot, but

1552
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: still he's.

1553
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: Been played well. So yeah, I've it's a bummer now

1554
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: that you got these guys that you kind of started

1555
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: to grow an affinity for, having to make room and

1556
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 2: sit them down sometimes that's yeah, that's it. That stinks

1557
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 2: in some ways, but.

1558
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 1: That's that's a valid question, especially with Milano expected to

1559
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: come back here sooner rather than later. We'll see if

1560
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: it's in Buffalo's very next game. A week from this Sunday,

1561
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: ed on the mail Bag question list asks static statistic wise,

1562
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: how does this year's passing attack by committee stack up

1563
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: against some of the Steph and Gabe years. Ooh, that

1564
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: would be an interesting study. I don't know if I

1565
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,839
Speaker 1: can pull up the numbers at the ready after eleven

1566
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: games as quickly, but I can try. I will say this,

1567
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: if you asked me to guess, I would be willing

1568
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 1: to bet that the collective catch rate is up, because

1569
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: even though Stefan Diggs was a high volume target, his

1570
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: catch rate was often in the low seventies, and Gabe

1571
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 1: Davis's catch rate for his career is barely above fifty percent.

1572
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: So taking those two guys out of the catch rate equation,

1573
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: I would be comfortable in saying this year the team's

1574
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: collective catch rate is higher. I think we also already

1575
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: know that yards after the catch is higher this year

1576
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 1: than it was last year. So those are two statistics

1577
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable telling you are better with this year's group.

1578
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 1: We'd have to look at some of the other metrics

1579
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: to know for sure on some of the other things.

1580
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where they are at yards or whatever.

1581
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they've thrown it as much as they

1582
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: did a few years ago. I don't know what it

1583
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: was last year.

1584
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: But ye, a good point.

1585
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: They're when when Gabe, Gabe got hurt this last week

1586
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: is out for the season, But up until that point,

1587
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: Gabe was actually had actually his catch rate had regressed

1588
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: was even lower, and it reminded me that McDermott. He

1589
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: said it and I keep repeating it. He doesn't want anybody.

1590
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: The Bills don't want anybody to go anywhere else and

1591
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: play better than they play here. They are doing absolutely

1592
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: everything they can, which is reflected in the way we've

1593
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: been talking about this team and they're overcoming injuries and

1594
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: guys stepping up. They don't want anybody to go somewhere

1595
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: else and play better than they play as a Buffalo Bill.

1596
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 2: They make every effort to give every guy on this

1597
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: roster maximum opportunity and the environment, whatever it may be,

1598
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: for each guy to that environment to succeed, and they

1599
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 2: have done an outstanding job of it. And seeing guys

1600
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: go other places and not do as well is further

1601
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: testament to how good this coaching staff has done in

1602
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: that regard.

1603
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've got the list here. Basically from twenty

1604
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: twenty to now. Twenty twenty is the most receiving yards

1605
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: for a season forty seven hundred eighty six, followed by

1606
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and then twenty twenty three, which was

1607
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: last year. Last year's receiving unit finished with forty three

1608
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: hundred six yards receiving in total, nineteen hundred seventy three

1609
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: of which was after the catch. This year, through eleven games,

1610
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: the team has twenty five hundred and forty eight yards

1611
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: receiving and fourteen hundred and thirty five of those after

1612
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: the catch. Yards after the catch per reception twenty twenty

1613
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: three to five point one, twenty twenty four to six

1614
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 1: point six, so trending a yard and a half above

1615
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: last year in terms of yards after the catch per reception,

1616
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: So they're trending ahead there. And then in terms of

1617
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: receiving percentage I'm trying to look for catch rate is

1618
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: that's receptions per target. They're actually trending a little bit

1619
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: behind last year's team seventy point six percent in terms

1620
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: of receptions per target, So they're catching a little over

1621
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: seventy and a half percent last year this year sixty

1622
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: seven point eight, so trailing them slightly. I thought they'd

1623
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: be higher in catch rate per target. They're a little

1624
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 1: bit lower, but there's six games to play too. Let's

1625
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: not forget that this isn't the full body of work

1626
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: for this year's crew, and perhaps this might be the

1627
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: biggest number receiving fumbles last year, four of which were lost.

1628
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: This year won, none of which were lost. So they've

1629
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: been better at ball security this year as a receiver

1630
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: group than last year.

1631
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: Is this surprise me? Their catch rate is lower this

1632
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: year than it was last year, although and even last year,

1633
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: it seemed like in the first half of the season,

1634
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 2: you know, Ken Dorsey was throwing it all over the yard.

1635
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: They rarely ran the ball.

1636
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they may not catch the number of targets

1637
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: because right now twenty twenty three total targets five forty

1638
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 1: five this year through eleven games three twenty three. That

1639
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 1: feels like it's trending behind that pace, which would make sense.

1640
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: They're running the ball a healthy number. And if you

1641
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: think about last year, they didn't really start running the

1642
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: ball a ton until you know, Brady took over over

1643
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: the last what was that eight or nine games, so

1644
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: it was only half the season they operated in the

1645
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: same way. We've got to take a break here, some

1646
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 1: final questions from the mailbag when we return here on

1647
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health.

1648
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:15,919
Speaker 5: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1649
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 1: All right back here on one Bill's Live and questioning

1650
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: the mailbag from Nick. Have we allowed ourselves to be

1651
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: over traumatized by thirteen seconds. We live in this universe

1652
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: where we can't be cac in the playoffs, but we

1653
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: basically did. Took an unbelievable confluence of luck and circumstances

1654
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: for them to beat us in twenty twenty two. Spencer,

1655
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Grut and AJ were rookies fourteen to twenty two starters,

1656
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: and every single coordinator from that game are gone, and

1657
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: we just beat them in every phase of the game

1658
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: this past Sunday. The twenty four Bills are at this

1659
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,520
Speaker 1: moment anyway better than the twenty four Chiefs. The anxiety

1660
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: is born of the past that Plague Bill's mafia can't

1661
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: possibly exist in the locker room, can they.

1662
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably a good that's pretty accurate.

1663
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there'll be a And that was the value of

1664
01:26:58,439 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: last week.

1665
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: They'll be game guys, some guys who kind of think

1666
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: about and fans will remind him of it. And you know,

1667
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: we having the conversation here on the show. It's out there.

1668
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 2: But and I'll say this, probably some guys on the

1669
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 2: staff and the coaching staff are like they would love

1670
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 2: another shot at that.

1671
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Well, and I think that was the value of last

1672
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: week's game. People are like, ah, neither team really needs

1673
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: this game. Whatever, whatever, there's value in that game. For

1674
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: this iteration of the Bills. You have a lot more

1675
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: younger players who have not lived those playoff games and

1676
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: getting this experience in the regular season granted against this

1677
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: team for the young players who haven't experienced or the

1678
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: new arrivals that had not experienced it. I mean Amari

1679
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Cooper hasn't played the Chiefs since he was with the

1680
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Raiders in twenty seventeen. That was the last time he

1681
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 1: played the Chiefs because he's been over in the NFC.

1682
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: There is value in beating that team, so when you

1683
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: do face them again, there's confidence in every player on

1684
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 1: your roster that you can go do it again.

1685
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. The angst is belongs to the fans.

1686
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: This is a club that every year you play, you're

1687
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 2: a different club. The twenty twenty one edition, twenty two

1688
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: to twenty three, all they're all different. And certainly last

1689
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: year's loss is probably hangs more on this team than

1690
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: the other one than the thirteen second loss because it's

1691
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: you know, we had our shot again. I know there

1692
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: are guys tighter bass in particular, that game sticks stuck

1693
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: with him last year. And I'll say this too, ill

1694
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: you know, kudos to him for missing a kick an

1695
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: extra point in that game early after going through that offseason.

1696
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: He just went through missing a kick in that Chiefs game,

1697
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: going through missing a first extra point and bouncing back

1698
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 2: saying forget it, I'm gonna and kicking well the rest

1699
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: of the nine and being perfect. So that exercised a

1700
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: lot of demons. And yeah, the demon He's exactly right, Nick.

1701
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: That's for the fans that that back there. The players

1702
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: don't live a brand new this is a brand new

1703
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: version of this team. Yeah, And I'm I would say

1704
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are a completely different team.

1705
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: And I would argue that the players more often than

1706
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 1: not don't live in that world. Sure they remember the game,

1707
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: if they played in it and whatnot, but they don't

1708
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: They're not consumed by it. There's too much other stuff

1709
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: for them to worry about going into whatever matchup they have,

1710
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: whether it's the Chiefs or some other teams. So yeah,

1711
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: they don't dwell on it.

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Speaker 2: Who Yeah, the here and now. Trump's that stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's it for us today. We're off the rest of

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Speaker 1: the Numbers podcast is new and out, so if you're

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Speaker 1: missing us, listen to that. It'll carry you through the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.