WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Bubble Guts 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.880 Cowboys. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.160 This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.439 From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:31.200 Streaks, touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.400 John Mashoda and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.440 It's a say it with your chest for Friday here 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.800 on Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, here 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:45.800 from the Star in. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.080 Frisco in the s WBC studios. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:49.199 You're not gonna do it now. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.400 You hit a little bit of a You hit a 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.160 note there, You got high there? But did you said Fridays? 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.560 Oh got a little like you know, just a little 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.400 octave change coming in on a Friday? 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.080 Are you an R and B guy? Her huges a 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.920 huge army that's about to say it's the best R 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.440 and B artist of all time, of all time. Borrow, listen. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:10.920 You have to take out you have to take out 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.000 the stop this huge you take out the personal life. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.520 I gotta say you can't. Some people be making these 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.960 decisions based upon people's bad personal decisions. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.360 I really don't know anything about her personal life. I 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.520 really don't number I was in the nineties. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.680 Shot your your number one? 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.679 Yeah, it is, it is. That's what I grew up on. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.760 That's that's just where that's where my heart resides. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.640 All right, Yeah, welcome in the talk. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.000 Who's your number? 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.640 Yeah, there's only one number one? Who be No Whitney's 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:40.319 not no. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.479 Okay, I figure you say that because you said take 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.080 personal life out of it. So I was wondering. R. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.840 Kelly, Oh, okay, that's why I take personal life out 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.320 of it. Used to goat hands down, not even a competition. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.960 Okay, well, let's let's keep on rolling. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:54.320 Yeah. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.360 Well, the Cowboys play the Patriots this week, uh three 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:58.640 twenty five kickoff. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.120 They will not be debating R and B. 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:05.160 Stars, And Dak said he has pissed off. He's mad. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:06.800 He said, start off the news and notes. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.280 Wow? 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:08.480 Can I start the news and notes with that? 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.440 Of course? Yeah, let's go. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.440 He's furious especially, Yeah, let's do it. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.480 But yeah, we talked to Dak Prescott yesterday and we said, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.200 you know, when you have a performance like that, how 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:20.720 do you how are you able to rebound? How are 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.600 you able to come back off of that? They're nine 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.280 and one in their last ten games coming off of 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.760 a loss, and he said, we have to feel that 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.160 pissed offness, which, uh, afterwards, the writers they got together 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.120 were like, how do we write that word? And we 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.799 had to consult with the AP style on that. But yeah, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.560 there's definitely a fire with a lot of guys on 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.080 this team. You can look at Dak Prescott, you can 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.080 look at jay Ron. Curse jay Ron. He took a 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.040 lot of self accountability in the In the game on 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.040 Sunday against Arizona, he said, I did not play well. 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.799 I did not play up to my standard. This defense 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.519 to not play up to our standard, we have to 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.880 come back and bounce back from it. So, uh, I 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.600 think there's a really good opportunity to do that here. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.400 Who they're angry with themselves themselves? 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.320 Yep? Are you okay with that answer? 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:00.600 Yeah? 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.400 I was just making sure it wasn't Is that the 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.079 answer somewhere else? That's all? Where would they even point it? 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.720 I don't know. I mean, that's not what I mean. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.560 You'd be angry for a lot of reasons. I didn't 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.600 want to make sure that they looked internally to get angry. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.040 Yeah, based off of the feeling in the locker room. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.959 It didn't feel like we talked about this yesterday a 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.320 little bit, but it didn't feel like they were They 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:25.680 were angry, but it feels like they're refocused. Which I 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.720 don't want to call it a wake up call, because 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.640 who needs a wake up call three weeks into a 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.360 season where you have as high of expectations as you 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.400 have for this football team. But it feels like that, 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.600 at least this early in the going, because yeah. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.320 This team does not expect that to be the case. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.520 I mean, you go back to Jerry Jones's one oh 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.560 five three the fan hit this week, and he even 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.240 talked about it. He's like, we can play better, we 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.360 can do better, he said. He was asked if he 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.920 was happy with the offensive scheme, he said, I'm not 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.119 happy yet. I can be, and there's a long way 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.320 to go until we get there, but I'm not happy 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.240 to this point of what it's looked like upfront, and 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.680 there's a lot of change to be made. And I 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.960 think whether or not it's his fault in the first place, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.760 it does start with Dak Prescott and he's the one 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.400 that sets the tone. So if he's saying he's upset, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.960 this entire locker room. This entire offense is upset of 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.000 it at the way they've played. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:18.040 Yeah, that's almost immediately what Dak had said yesterday, talking 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.119 about just getting back to their own standard and getting 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.960 back to what they've they've been able to do efficiently, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.080 whether that be getting down the field, not necessarily the 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.880 red zone, but getting down the field. There's a lot 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.480 of good things that they could take away from that. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.320 Just get back to what works for them, and I 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.920 think eventually it'll come back around. I think we see 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.560 it on Sunday injury news, good news and kind of 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:39.479 not good news. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.719 I guess Isaiah, Well. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.320 They go hand in hand. They go hand in hand. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.480 There's really in no way of getting around it. Two 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.080 of the three offensive linemen returned to practice yesterday on 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.000 a limited basis, Tyler Biadish with his hamstring injury, Zach 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.240 Martin with his ankle injury. They were both back on 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.440 the practice field on a limited basis. We saw both 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.120 of them going through individual drills during the media portion 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.600 of practice yesterday, while Tyron Smith was nowhere to be seen. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.960 He is still did not practice listing as of yesterday 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:14.320 on Thursday with his knee injury, but really really really 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.440 good news. It is no injuries, no new injuries on 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.160 a Thursday practice, So that's a that's a really good start. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.920 Isaia. Why do you look so upset? 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.080 You look like you want to just jump across the 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.680 table and shut Nick Harris's laptop. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.960 I did not bring my pink drink today. Kyle Freddy's 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.360 bubble guts that he just gave. Ah, but they're limited. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:41.440 They're anything is limited. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.640 Really quick. One more note, Mike McCarthy said on the 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.440 fan this morning again shout out to John My showed 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.279 up for the great tweeting. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:47.760 Uh. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.559 He said that Zach Martin and Tyler Biadish are quote 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.359 definitely making a lot of progress. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:54.920 So is that ease it a little bit? 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.120 Nope? Why nope? I mean progress and and production are 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.680 two different things. So you know, I'm super black and white. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.520 You guys know that. But I do believe that Zach 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.640 Martin probably has a high probability of making it to 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.760 this game. I don't feel the same way about Tyler. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.440 Be honest. Now, I don't have a clue as to 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.440 the severity of his hamstring injury, so this is just 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.320 simply opinion based, But I don't have any sense of 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.080 confidence or any reason to have confidence that he's going 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.280 to play in this game. Now he hasn't. He hasn't 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.800 physically put hands on somebody in. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.600 Two weeks, and that you saw the roster moves yesterday 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.680 as well as Evan Harper released, creates a roster spot 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.440 that present presents an opportunity to elevate brock Hoffmann. Because 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.119 they've already elevated him three times to the active roster. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.760 He is out of practice squad elevation, so you have 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.600 to if you're going to keep him without going on waivers, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.279 you would have to elevate him to the active roster 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.799 in an active roster spot. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.400 Do you anticipate that being the case. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.920 That's a good point. Maybe there's a there's a few 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.520 there's there's some different things that they can do with 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.919 that open roster spot, but as far as going into 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.680 Sunday before Sunday, that seems to be one of the 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.960 only options. They have three guys that can play center 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.520 on the practice squad brock Hoffman, Sean Harlowe and then 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.800 Billy Price that was brought in literally this week. Obviously 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.040 would feel the best about Hoffman just because he had 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.360 a strong game in Arizona. Dak Prescott really liked the 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:25.040 way he came in and handled that opportunity, so I 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.800 would have to think that he would get that spot. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.200 But you also have two guys coming off of eligible 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.720 to come off the IR on Monday, and Nasehawn Wright 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.680 and Matt Will let's go, And they're gonna have to 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.520 make room for both of those guys, So a little 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.320 bit of a moving around that they're gonna have to 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:40.640 do regardless. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:40.800 If they're ready. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.960 If both right, they're ready, well let's go, all ready 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.400 to come off of the IR. Also, I mean, with 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.840 the release of Devin Harper, you have not one, but 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.720 two linebackers on this roster. Three if you want to 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.960 count Mike Caparsons. But the show knows as much as 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.720 anybody that you should not count Mike cal. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:57.400 Parsons in that list. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.680 And we're not counting Marku's bell. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.720 Now to Layton vander h and Dimone Clark are your 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.280 only two linebackers on the entire active roster. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.000 Now that gives me bubble cuts? 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:09.200 Does it? 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:09.440 Really? 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:09.760 It does? 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:10.440 That doesn't give me? 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.640 It gives Yeah, it does, because one injury in your 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:13.160 you're cooked. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.440 Yeah, I mean, but there's Malik Jefferson on practice squad. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.200 I mean, you have guys that you could elevate up. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.760 Right, He's banged, he's been banged up, he's out of practice, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.560 he's been practicing on the press. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.960 I like Malik. I've been liking Milik for the last 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.680 few years, so I have a bot of confidence in him. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.240 Should they need to move him up, elevate him for 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.600 the game, I feel fully confident that he could fulfill 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.080 any role now in terms of what they choose to 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:34.600 do on game day. If there happened to be an 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.600 injury on actual game day, then yes. You know, you're 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.040 used to having three real linebackers and they're with Devin Harper. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.240 But now that he's vacant, now you're carrying only two 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.720 as of today, unless they do something different on Sunday. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.760 But obviously, with Marky's Bell being able to come down 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.400 into the box, you have that option. As you start 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.760 talking about this style of offense, No, that doesn't make 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.320 me feel too confident the Testyle offense that you're about 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.840 to face, because this is going to be bullyball physical. Yeah. Yeah. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.040 If you're looking at this depth chart, and I mean, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.760 for the most part, the initial thought is a blinking 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.280 red light to go and add one of the practice 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.600 squad offensive linemen or one of the guys off of 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.880 IR to that active roster spot. What would you do, Nick, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.960 when you're looking at it. Would you add a Malik 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.679 Jefferson should he be game ready and ready to go? 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.320 Or would you go and elevate brock Kaffman and just 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.559 go ahead and lock him in at that center spot. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:26.920 Depending on what happens. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.560 Going into Sunday, I would go ahead and elevate Malik 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.079 Jefferson off of the practice squad, not giving him the 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.240 roster spot. He's not a fifty three spot practice squad elevation. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.800 As for that open roster spot, the thing is, if 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.520 you give it to brock Kaufman, right, and he plays 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.000 on Sunday and he's on the active roster and you 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.559 have two guys that you need to put on the 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.439 roster on Monday, then that kind of forces their hand 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.400 on brock Kaffman to subject him to waivers and then 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.560 try to bring him back to practice squad, which I 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.840 think that could get sticky. And then he's already shown 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.240 good film in two games by that point, so I 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.960 don't know, it's difficult. They have a plan in mind, obviously, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.200 or they wouldn't have waived Devin Harper yesterday. So I 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.720 assume that they have a plan going into Sunday for it. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.760 But I think that's the only option if I'm thinking 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.680 in my head, So I can't think of any other one. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.880 Active roster spot to brock Hoffman and then elevate Malik Jefferson. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.840 Would you do the same, Yes, yeah, absolutely. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.360 Yeah, we'll probably elevate somebody else who could help them 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.400 on the defense and the offensive line as well. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.800 I was about to say, probably another offensive lineman, right, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.240 you would have to. They did last week they elevated 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.960 two guys. Plus if you elevate an offensive lineman, you 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.480 get that extra spot also that you can protect. So 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.920 I think Hoffman has to come up this game just 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.680 because he's the one that it has had the rep. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.840 It's a have to like this is up my opinion 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.280 of the game. People, all right, but he has to elevate. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.440 Being from a quarterback perspective, you cannot be playing musical 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.440 chairs at the quarter at the center position. You need 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:01.000 that chemistry. It's a necessity. It's like wearing wearing jeans 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.200 that are two inches two big around your waist without 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:04.840 a belt, like you like you can't, like you're gonna 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.280 be sit up there trying to you don't feel safe. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:08.680 You know what I'm saying, You don't feel safe. You 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.440 have to you gotta have them. You have to have 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:16.040 them because timing is everything, communications everything, Cadence is everything. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.960 How how high he snaps the ball, where he's all 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.440 those things matter, angles matter, There's so much that comes 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.719 into it. And when you don't have that chemistry, when 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.680 you don't have that symmetry, then all of a sudden 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.000 things get out of whack, and they get out of 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.199 whack in a real bad way. Whether Dak's getting his 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.240 footstepped on. We've seen a couple reps in that in camp. Right, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.800 you change the center, all of a sudden he's getting 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.200 stepped on. All of a sudden he can't get to 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.080 their running back. Now you're trying to reach. Now you're 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.000 starting fumble on the ball like stuff just happens is 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.160 just snowball. When things are out of whack at that position, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.240 you have to have your center. So if you don't 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.240 have beatist, you're going with your plan B, and there 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.959 is no plan C, D, and E there just is it. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.960 I was having a conversation earlier this week with a 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.720 friend of mine about that exchange, the center to quarterback exchange, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.000 and it is one of the most underrated logistical pieces 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.440 of the entire game of football, because look at it 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.000 all the way across the board, and I'm interested to 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.079 see your thought process on this. Think of the cohesion 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.080 that is needed across the board in the game of football. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.160 You're talking about communication defensively, passing off at the offensive 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:20.679 line spot, talking about timing between quarterbacks and wide receivers, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.320 all of these connections that you have to have to 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.880 each other because it is the ultimate team game. So 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.800 it's like a spider web, it's all connected together. But 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.480 where would you rank out of all those connections, How 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.679 important and how imperative it is to be on the 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.440 same page between quarterback and center. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.600 Oh, I think it's of the upmost important. It would 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.760 be probably one or two. On the legs. I touched 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.880 the ball every play. Two people on this roster touch 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.400 the ball every single offensive snap. Your center and your quarterback. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.680 Ye unless there's a direct snap to a running back, okay, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.320 but for the most part, your center and your quarterback 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.520 you talk about the fact that these guys a run shotgun. Okay, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.480 so snap and word of how fast the ball's coming out, right, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.280 The velocity of the timing of that from Dak saying hey, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.040 I want the ball to the time he snaps it, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.400 to the time the ball gets to his hands, Like, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.880 there's a timing element there, right. If that's off a 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.080 tenth or two tenths of a second, that throws off Dak, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.480 right because he's already in this drop as the ball's coming. Like, 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.800 there's a lot of things like that that you're calibrated for, 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.719 and if you just change that calibration a little bit, 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.400 it throws things out of whack. I could go back 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.880 to my two times when I was under center. If 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.440 I'm I'm used to coming from underneath center at a 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.160 certain time, right as I'm saying snap, hut, whatever it 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.920 is that he's saying, as I'm backing out, there's a 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.360 timing element to that, right, I know how far I'm 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.079 coming out with my hands as I'm coming from underneath 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.400 his butt. So if you bring somebody else in and 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.800 he's delayed even a little bit, right now, all of 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.000 a sudden, I'm backing out and the ball hasn't been snapped, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.480 so now when the ball comes up, it's hitting my 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.640 fingertips instead of hitting the base of my hand. Right. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.080 So like little things like that, those little minute changes, 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.679 you can't play around with those. It throws off absolutely. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.920 Everything when you think about it too, from a backup 0:13:58.000 --> 0:13:59.000 quarterback standpoint. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:04.960 That's why these quarterbacks. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.959 It happens that way because the cadence is just slightly 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.640 different from the center that would be the starting center 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.160 in this case. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.160 Like things like that, right here we go, yeah. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.080 And you're you're you're trying to mimic that that same 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.520 cadences not the starting. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:18.840 Quarterback, but it's never going to be the same. It 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:19.400 never will be. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.280 It's really interesting and keeping the conversation on the offensive line. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.200 I had a conversation with both Tyler Smith and Chrumdoga 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.640 yesterday uh in the locker room, and both guys said 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.160 that if they're the starters up front, there's no Tyler 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.040 Smith or Tyrone Smith at the left tackle spot, it 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.880 will look the same this week. It will be the 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.160 same starting left side of that offensive line. Because chru 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.480 Modoka has taken every snap this week that he's taken 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.040 has been at left tackle, and every snap that Tyler 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.320 Smith has taken this this week. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.240 Has been at left guard. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.280 Do you feel comfortable with that setup in the way 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.320 that it looked on Sunday. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.520 I love the journalistic reporting, Kyle, because that's something that's 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.120 been very interesting for me as well. But I don't 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.160 necessarily believe it. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:05.400 Yeah, I don't. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:05.960 Don't think so. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.000 You think it could be switched. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.280 I think it definitely could be. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:09.760 Could be. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.240 I think it definitely could be, just for the fact 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.280 that cho Me Doga looked really good and his guard 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.760 opportunity against that was the Giants, and then obviously we've 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.400 seen what Tyler Smith can do a left tackle. When 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.000 you have a guy like Matthew Judon, who would you 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.080 rather have going up against him? And I would I 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.000 would say Tyler Smith the strength wise, But let's let's 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:28.920 let's let's put it. Let's put it in the equation 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.720 that was told to you to me, Doga at left 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.160 tackle and Tyler Smith at left guard. I wouldn't feel 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.520 great about it. I wouldn't feel great about it just because, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.520 again Judon, as we as you mentioned yesterday quite a bit, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.000 I don't think Chimidoga can handle him off the edge. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.720 I've always said on this show that I really like 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.680 Youdoga much more on the interior. And uh, I think 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.120 Tyler Smith has as much talent at tackle as he 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.360 doesn't guard like He's a true versatile offensive lineman that 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.040 can play either to the same level and to the 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.640 same effect. I'd rather have his strength and athleticism out 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:00.720 there on the I. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.360 Look at it from this perspective. I think both points 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.200 are valid. I truly believe if Tyler Smith is at 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:11.400 left tackle, Tyron Smith is done for the year. I 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.360 think that would be the indication that he's done. Why 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.320 because why would you mess around with Tyler Smith bumping back. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.400 Out to tackle, because he's the best magic not you. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.960 You can't keep interchanging linemen and their responsibility. They really 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.720 didn't like the fact that they did it last year. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.760 They didn't like it last year. So if you see 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.680 my opinion, if you see Tyler Smith have left tackle, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.240 that's bad. That's a bad sign for Tyron Smith. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:36.560 Okay, I can see that. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.240 That's what you're saying that because then now you forced 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.440 him back, You forced Tyler Smith into his forever role. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.400 Last year, he was fulfilling a gap, right, I'm playing guard, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.840 on playing tackle when he's heard on putting the future, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.760 he's a left tackle the future. So I think I 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.200 think if you see him at left tackle this game, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.760 they're not gonna keep doing this yoyol thing with him again. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.360 That's gonna that's gonna be your left tack goal. Now 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:01.920 it's over here for the foreseeable future. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.240 You take a bathroom break, yeah, I mean, I mean, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.200 and you so you think about that, and you think 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.320 about the look that Tyrn Smith had on his face 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.639 on the sideline, Yeah, I mean, it wasn't good. He 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.960 was still padded up. The one thing that I that 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.000 that I think if you're looking at context clues like 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.560 you're doing right now, which I really do appreciate, but 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.640 you take it to what it is now. And you said, 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.840 he's nowhere to be seen. We haven't seen him on 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.240 the practice field, but m on the bed. He was 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.560 in pads, but he hasn't been on the field. He 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:32.440 hasn't been on the band. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.760