WEBVTT - SUNDAY SAMPLER - The Nashville Podcast Network (9-29-24)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Sunday Sampler Time. Some clips from some of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcasts this week on the Nashville Podcast Network. Coming Up,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked with Don Felder, who was in the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talks about the story behind Hotel California, which

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote. But we're gonna start with a clip from

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<v Speaker 1>Take This Personally, where Morgan talked with therapist doctor Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Tran about childhood trauma and how it impacts us as adults.

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<v Speaker 1>They also discuss things we should unlearn in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So here is a clip from Take This Personally with

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Heughlsman.

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<v Speaker 2>Personallysman, I'm excited to welcome Amy Tran, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>therapist and currently completely her training to be a psychologist

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<v Speaker 2>in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on

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<v Speaker 4>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you find it difficult for people to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>address that because they are still as an adult. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>super close with my parents. I'm not looking back and

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<v Speaker 2>finding anything, but I'm sure there is something there. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you find it's harder to do that when there is

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<v Speaker 2>a close relationship because you almost don't want to jeopardize it,

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<v Speaker 2>or you don't want to lose it. Do you find

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<v Speaker 2>that people find it hard to kind of attack that

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<v Speaker 2>place because it's such a personal moment of their life.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, one hundred percent. People say all the time, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>but I love my parents, or but I know they

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<v Speaker 4>did a good job. So it's really holding that space

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<v Speaker 4>for the person to be like, Okay, I love my parents,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know they did the best that they could,

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<v Speaker 4>but there's some things in which maybe it was outside

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<v Speaker 4>of their awareness and they reacted to situations a certain

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<v Speaker 4>way that had long lasting impacts on us. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>my perspective of it, and what I invite everyone to

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<v Speaker 4>really see is that most humans are just trying the

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<v Speaker 4>best that they can with what they know at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>the resources they have, and I believe parents are doing

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<v Speaker 4>that too. That is the kind of perspective that I

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<v Speaker 4>want people to take when we're talking about our parents,

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<v Speaker 4>is that no, they're not maliciously trying to traumatize you

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<v Speaker 4>or create anxiety and depression in your life. They were

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<v Speaker 4>just doing their best that they could and then this

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<v Speaker 4>is how it turned out. So it is tough though

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<v Speaker 4>for some people to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>How can you give them tips to be like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be perfect, but this is what you

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<v Speaker 2>can do. Is there things that parents can do to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure their kids at least grow up in a sense

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<v Speaker 2>that have an idea of what's happening around them and

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<v Speaker 2>how to address those situations as they get older.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that first of all is to be compassionate

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<v Speaker 4>towards yourself. Right to parent is not only just ensuring

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<v Speaker 4>survival and that there's food on the table and that

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<v Speaker 4>the kid is living in an enriched life, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot to help a child label their emotions, work

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<v Speaker 4>through their emotions. There is so much work involved in

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<v Speaker 4>that because if you, as a parent are not comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>with emotions, if you, as a parent don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>to handle your own emotions or soothe yourself, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be really hard for you to do that for

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<v Speaker 4>your child and model that for your child. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>why it comes back to parents are just doing the

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<v Speaker 4>best that they can. Be compassionate with yourself. Remember that

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<v Speaker 4>it's a learning process. And if I can invite the

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<v Speaker 4>parents out there who are listening to think about two

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<v Speaker 4>things safety. How can you make your child feel safe

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<v Speaker 4>if you think about your child as not just a

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<v Speaker 4>human being but a nervous system as well, that will

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<v Speaker 4>react to a loud voice, that will react to an

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<v Speaker 4>angry face, and will react to conflict around the home.

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<v Speaker 4>How can we make them feel a little bit safe?

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<v Speaker 4>And also is that all children want to feel validated?

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<v Speaker 4>Seen in her If they're crying and you think what

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<v Speaker 4>they're crying about is the silliest thing before jumping to

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<v Speaker 4>well is it really worth crying about? Knowledge that you

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<v Speaker 4>understand where that sadness is coming from. Validate, validate, validate, validate,

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<v Speaker 4>is what I have to say. So how can we

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<v Speaker 4>create safety for children? And how can we make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that they feel validated? Even if you disagree. First, just

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<v Speaker 4>let your child know that you understand where they're coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think as humans everybody can feel that sense

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<v Speaker 2>of validation that we all want. That's something that we

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<v Speaker 2>just keep having throughout our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>It never goes away.

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<v Speaker 1>So Christ Appleton's a decent friend of mine, and his

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<v Speaker 1>song gets covered all the time. A lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>songs do like Tennessee Whiskey, which is not his song,

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<v Speaker 1>but one that he covered and repopular and gets covered

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Are people constantly wanting you to hear

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<v Speaker 1>covers of your songs, like don't listen to this? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that happen a lot where it's like listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>player or not so much anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>It happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Just if I'm going through Instagram or Facebook or something.

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<v Speaker 5>There's all that you're TikTok.

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<v Speaker 6>There's people that want to show me that they can

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<v Speaker 6>play my solo, which is really flattering. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>not an easy solo by any stretch of the imagination,

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<v Speaker 6>but it is flattering for that many people to try

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<v Speaker 6>to attempt. There's actually I saw a trombone player doing

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<v Speaker 6>the solo for Hotel California, and trombonas like this guy

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<v Speaker 6>is a great player, but I can't imagine a sewer

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<v Speaker 6>pipe players who playing.

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<v Speaker 5>An hotel. So I watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you write about like when you wrote that We're

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<v Speaker 3>on the beach?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, where did that come to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it wasn't written as part of the whole song, right,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you write the intro to that song just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of by itself.

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<v Speaker 6>What happened was I had rented a house on a

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<v Speaker 6>beach in Malibu. I had two little kids. One was

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<v Speaker 6>about a year old and one was like two and

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<v Speaker 6>a half.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was hitting on the couch.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just a beautiful sunny California day and the

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<v Speaker 6>sun was glistening on the surf as it's coming in,

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<v Speaker 6>and my kids were in the sand on this swing set.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I have this guitar, acoustic guitar, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just sitting there and I start playing this chord progression,

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<v Speaker 6>and about three or four times through the progression, I said,

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<v Speaker 6>I have to go in the back bedroom and record

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of it, because if I don't record

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<v Speaker 6>it tomorrow, allgo What was that thing that was? So

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<v Speaker 6>So I run in a back bedroom, cord about I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, two or three times through the verse progression,

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<v Speaker 6>and just put it away. It was actually my one

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<v Speaker 6>year old daughter's bedroom was my recording studio when she

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<v Speaker 6>was away playing, I could go in and Mike write

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<v Speaker 6>demos and stuff. Anyway, So I recorded that, and then

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<v Speaker 6>we started writing song ideas for the album that was

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<v Speaker 6>untitled at the time that was going to be Hotel California.

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<v Speaker 6>So I wound up writing sixteen or seventeen complete basic

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<v Speaker 6>tracks where I would go in and take an idea

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<v Speaker 6>like that little progression, and i'd fill it out and

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<v Speaker 6>write a chorus part to it, and I'd play bass

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<v Speaker 6>on it. And I had a little rhythm rhythm drum

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<v Speaker 6>machine called a rhythm ace that you used to see

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<v Speaker 6>on piano players and bars that they could set it

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<v Speaker 6>to a cha chaar, set it to a rock beat.

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<v Speaker 6>So I used that, and then I just overdubbed a

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of stuff on this little four track tape recorder

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<v Speaker 6>three to one, then fill up two more tracks and

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<v Speaker 6>about those three to one, and so it was mono

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<v Speaker 6>at the time. I just I should have brought my

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<v Speaker 6>laptop because I have a digital copy of it. I

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<v Speaker 6>could play you a little bit of it, and it

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<v Speaker 6>sounds I played the beginning with a twelve string and

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<v Speaker 6>then these electrics come in. The solo at the very

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<v Speaker 6>end is pretty much like it is on the record,

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<v Speaker 6>with the exception of some walshisms. When Joe and I

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<v Speaker 6>played together, we came up with just great unique stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>So I put that idea on a cassette with like

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen or sixteen other song ideas. One became Victim of Love,

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<v Speaker 6>and Henley liked that one that sounded like a Mexican

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<v Speaker 6>reggae and so he was off and running writing lyrics

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<v Speaker 6>to that song and came up with the lyric Idea

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<v Speaker 6>and lyrics for Hotel California, which was on top of

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<v Speaker 6>that music bed. So that's kind of how that all

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<v Speaker 6>came together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to get you out. I read

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<v Speaker 1>your book as soon as it came out, like the

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<v Speaker 1>week it came out. I devoured it, Like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>literal fan. I knew the story about the beach. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know, I think it's a beach,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew because I as soon as that book

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<v Speaker 1>came out, I crushed. And it's really one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite like music bio books ever, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>represents Again we're just talking about back in your childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>like Gainesville, Florida. What was your environment, What were you

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by musically in Gainesville that even created an interest

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<v Speaker 1>to want to hear music that wasn't the typical white

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<v Speaker 1>music that you got there, Like where was that coming from?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that desire to learn and be around different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of music. There was nothing else to do. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no internet.

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<v Speaker 6>Television had three channels, you know, it's ABC, NBCCBS, and

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<v Speaker 6>then they went off the air shortly after sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>Played the Starspangle by International Anthem. I was telling one

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<v Speaker 1>of our people here like I caught the tail end

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<v Speaker 1>of that in my life, and they were like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the channel would go off? I was like, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I would show the screen of his hold.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And there was no really individual entertainment you could do.

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<v Speaker 6>So I wound up getting a guitar and just trying

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<v Speaker 6>to figure out how it worked and.

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<v Speaker 3>How'd you get the guitar?

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<v Speaker 5>What did that?

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<v Speaker 6>There was a kid that lived across the street from me,

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<v Speaker 6>and up in the top of one of his closets

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<v Speaker 6>I saw in a guitar and it had some broken

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<v Speaker 6>strings on it. And my brother and I had just

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<v Speaker 6>come back down from South Carolina and my favorite uncle

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<v Speaker 6>had given us a box of cherry bombs and we

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<v Speaker 6>hit him in the trunk from my dad. My dad

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't let us play with those things. So when it

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<v Speaker 6>would rain, we lived on a dirt road that was

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<v Speaker 6>crowned and there was a ditch on both sides of

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<v Speaker 6>the road for all the Florida run off, and to

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<v Speaker 6>get from the road to your house, there was a

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<v Speaker 6>big metal culvert that the water would run through underneath

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<v Speaker 6>your driveway. So when it was raining, and we would

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<v Speaker 6>run out with these cherry bombs, light them and throw

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<v Speaker 6>them up stream and tie them so they would float

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<v Speaker 6>down into that culvert and then boom, blow up and

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<v Speaker 6>everybody would come running.

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<v Speaker 5>Out to see what was going on, and we would

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<v Speaker 5>be back in the house hiding.

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<v Speaker 6>So this kid comes out, he sees us doing it,

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<v Speaker 6>and he says, oh, it's some of those cherry bombs.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, well, I'll give you a handful of these

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<v Speaker 6>cherry bombs if you can get me that guitar that

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<v Speaker 6>you have. We'll make a trade. So he runs back

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<v Speaker 6>to his house, gets his guitar, brings it over, give

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<v Speaker 6>him cherry bombs. Fifteen minutes later, cherry bombs are gone.

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<v Speaker 5>But I got a guitar. We didn't have any money.

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<v Speaker 6>That was the only way we could get started.

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<v Speaker 5>Good cast up little.

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<v Speaker 7>Food for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So life ain't.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh it's pretty bad. It's pretty beautiful that for a

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<v Speaker 7>little more, said he can't. You're kicking it with four

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<v Speaker 7>with Amy Brown.

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<v Speaker 8>I saw this thing on Instagram the other day about

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<v Speaker 8>floor drobes. I had never heard of this before. But

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<v Speaker 8>if you ever delay putting away clean laundry, or maybe

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<v Speaker 8>you've tried on that you didn't wear, and then you

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<v Speaker 8>just start to pile them up like on a chair

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<v Speaker 8>on the floor for days on end. Well, these piles

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<v Speaker 8>they have a name, and it's floordrobe. A floor drobe

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<v Speaker 8>is a place typically on the floor that we leave

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<v Speaker 8>clean or not quite dirty clothes. And I get all

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<v Speaker 8>kinds of ADHD content in my algorithm now. And when

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<v Speaker 8>floordrobe showed up, I was like, oh my gosh, that

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<v Speaker 8>is me. And I looked round my room and all

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<v Speaker 8>my different little floordrobe piles. And I am someone that

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<v Speaker 8>loves laundry, I really do, But then it turns into

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<v Speaker 8>floor drobe because I don't think I necessarily love putting

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<v Speaker 8>the clothes away. Always get distracted, And now I know why.

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<v Speaker 8>I looked up something real quick just now about floor drobes.

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<v Speaker 8>And this is from Billy Roberts, a therapist at Focused

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<v Speaker 8>Mind ADHD Counseling in Columbus, Ohio. He said, when faced

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<v Speaker 8>with a task that is boring, the ADHD brand gets

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<v Speaker 8>overwhelmed and starts craving more interesting tasks. Tedious chores like

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<v Speaker 8>laundry tend to be particularly frustrating because they can pile up,

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<v Speaker 8>leading many with ADHD to feel incredibly overwhelmed and to

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<v Speaker 8>further avoid the task. Now, I'm sure people without ADHD

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<v Speaker 8>have floor drobes, but I think it's just more common

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<v Speaker 8>if you have ADHD. And again, I just like knowing

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<v Speaker 8>why something is happening. I like knowing also how I

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<v Speaker 8>can fix it, which leads me to the strategies that

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<v Speaker 8>I have for you. And these strategies are pretty good.

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<v Speaker 8>Some maybe you know, some you don't, maybe you just

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<v Speaker 8>need a refresher. But if you suffer from ADHD paralysis,

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<v Speaker 8>you definitely will benefit from one of these strategies or

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<v Speaker 8>maybe all of them. I feel like I might need

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<v Speaker 8>to implement like a new one each day to get

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<v Speaker 8>all my stuff done. And what's fun is there are

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<v Speaker 8>four strategies, which is very fitting because it's the four things.

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<v Speaker 8>First thing, break tasks down. You just break them down

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<v Speaker 8>into smaller, manageable steps. Now this sounds so simple, but

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<v Speaker 8>trust me, this is something that works. Instead of saying

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<v Speaker 8>clean the house, we'll break it down to clean the

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<v Speaker 8>kitchen counter, put away laundry, and just you don't end

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<v Speaker 8>up with a floor drobe. Maybe put away this pile,

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<v Speaker 8>put away genes, and then later you can put away

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<v Speaker 8>shirts vacuum one room. The idea is to make the

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<v Speaker 8>task feel less overwhelming. This will really help your brain.

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<v Speaker 8>I know it's simple, but it helps. It seems very

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<v Speaker 8>elementary and like you're having to talk to yourself like

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<v Speaker 8>a child, but when your executive function is out on vacation,

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<v Speaker 8>it needs a talking to like a child. Second thing,

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<v Speaker 8>the Pomodoro technique. Have you heard of this one? I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like I've talked about it on the podcast before,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's basically working in short bursts, usually twenty five

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<v Speaker 8>minutes of folks work, and then that's followed by a

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<v Speaker 8>five minute break. And what this does is it tricks

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<v Speaker 8>your brain into thinking like, oh, I only have twenty

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<v Speaker 8>five minutes of work to do, no big deal. And

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<v Speaker 8>once you get started, it's easier to keep going. Third thing,

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<v Speaker 8>using timer's and external accountability. Sometimes just knowing that someone

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<v Speaker 8>else is counting on you is enough to get you moving,

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<v Speaker 8>whether you know it's a friend, a family member, coworker.

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<v Speaker 8>Having someone check in that can help you break the paralysis.

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<v Speaker 8>And also with the timer thing, I mean that's back

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<v Speaker 8>to the Pomodoro effect. Like you could set a timer

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<v Speaker 8>for twenty five minutes, but you know, we talk about

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<v Speaker 8>the ten minute pus on the podcast A Lot. I

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<v Speaker 8>learned that from my sister. You set a timer for

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<v Speaker 8>ten minutes and you just clean as much as you

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<v Speaker 8>can and that ten minutes, try to get as much

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<v Speaker 8>done as possible. And a lot of times when the

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<v Speaker 8>timer goes off, you're motivated. You keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>You see progress.

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<v Speaker 8>Your brain's like, oh this looks good, I might as

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<v Speaker 8>well keep going, and who knows. You even clean for

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<v Speaker 8>fifteen minutes, which is better than zero, And when you're

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<v Speaker 8>an ADHD paralysis, you're getting zero done. Fourth thing, change

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<v Speaker 8>your environment. If your workspace or home is cluttered or

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<v Speaker 8>full of distractions, clear it out. Even moving to a

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<v Speaker 8>different room or a new spot can help reframe your

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<v Speaker 8>mind and make it easier to start something. So there

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<v Speaker 8>you go, break down tasks, Pomodoro technique, use timers, an

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<v Speaker 8>external accountability, and change your environment. But remember changing environment

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't have to be anything drastic. It can just be

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<v Speaker 8>simply getting up and going to another room. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>mean you have to leave your house and go to

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<v Speaker 8>another location. And something that just popped into my head,

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<v Speaker 8>that is a strategy that works for me, and I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know why. I didn't think of it until now,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's the body doubling. It actually came up with

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<v Speaker 8>Kat and I on a Fifth Thing episode recently, so

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<v Speaker 8>I guess I'll throw it in the fifth Strategy. We'll

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<v Speaker 8>at it here the Bonus strategy, just like the Bonus episode,

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<v Speaker 8>but body doubling. That's when you have another person just

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<v Speaker 8>in the room with you while you're trying to accomplish

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<v Speaker 8>a task, and the idea behind it working is just

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<v Speaker 8>having someone there increases your motivation. It's that simple, and personally,

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<v Speaker 8>for me, body doubling works really really well. I was

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<v Speaker 8>researching for this episode and that never came up, but

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<v Speaker 8>it just popped into my head right now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>glad that it did, because it's just such a good

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<v Speaker 8>one for me, and maybe it's good for you. And

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<v Speaker 8>it sounds tricky because you think that body doubling means

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<v Speaker 8>that the other person has to be doing the same

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<v Speaker 8>task as you in order for you to be doing it.

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<v Speaker 8>But all that you need from your body double is

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<v Speaker 8>for them to be in the room. If they're helping

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<v Speaker 8>with the task or doing the same thing, sure that's amazing,

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<v Speaker 8>but they just have to be in the room.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to do it alive. Oh the one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 5>Sore Losers?

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<v Speaker 3>What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most

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<v Speaker 3>about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my

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<v Speaker 3>sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.

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<v Speaker 9>It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.

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<v Speaker 9>I live on the North side of Nashville with Bayser,

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<v Speaker 9>my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful. A

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<v Speaker 9>lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 9>soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue

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<v Speaker 9>to be determined.

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<v Speaker 3>Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this

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<v Speaker 3>week's episode of The Sore Losers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, how much more does this roller coaster got?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm feeling great. I cashed out for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I made a thousand on that last roulette. Hitting those numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt so good. Get on the plane, I'm C

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven boarding lucky enough. Got a window and I

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<v Speaker 3>get my bag and I'm I walk out and I

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<v Speaker 3>got to get the shuttle to the car. And I

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<v Speaker 3>see the shuttle pulling away and I'm like, oh no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>don't leave. Me, don't leave me and I wave my hand.

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<v Speaker 3>He stops, not even at the bus stop, lets me on,

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<v Speaker 3>so I always do VIP and I'm like, hell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go. We're driving and we passed the turn to

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<v Speaker 3>my parking lot where I parked, and he pulls into

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<v Speaker 3>Lot See and I'm like, son, up a bitch, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the wrong bus.

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<v Speaker 5>How dude, All you have to do is remember one letter. Ray.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't paying attention. I saw the bus just pulling

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<v Speaker 3>away from the stop and I was like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't want to miss it. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>miss it, and I just waved my hand. I got on.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I'm in. I got two decisions to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I just sit on the bus like an idiot

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<v Speaker 3>and ride it all the way back to the airport,

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<v Speaker 3>or do I say, oh, man, there's my stop and

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<v Speaker 3>get off and just walked a Lot B.

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<v Speaker 5>Wonder how close they are? They walkable?

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<v Speaker 3>In my head they were walkable.

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<v Speaker 5>Ray got it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got off the bus. Ray, it's about a mile.

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening from Lot Sea to Lot B with

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<v Speaker 3>a suitcase? With a suitcase eight o'clock at night and

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<v Speaker 3>there's no damn sidewalks, I'm trudging through bushes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>through the grass. Finally, I put my suitcase in the

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<v Speaker 3>street and I'm rolling it as I walk on the

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<v Speaker 3>side in the grass so it can roll. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I got cars honking at me because I'm blocking traffic

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<v Speaker 3>with my suitcases.

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<v Speaker 4>I walk.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I get to a spot where I got to

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<v Speaker 3>run across four lanes of traffic to get over to

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<v Speaker 3>the go underneath the bridge exactly where you are, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you got to go left down underneath the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 5>And not only that.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I get to Lot B, it's not like I

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<v Speaker 3>parked in the front of Lot B. I parked in

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<v Speaker 3>the very back left ass corner. I mean, sweat is

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<v Speaker 3>just pouring down me as I am making my way, man, And.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a moment you'll never forget for the rest, never.

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<v Speaker 3>Forget for the rest of my life. And I walk

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<v Speaker 3>and I finally get to the back and I get

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<v Speaker 3>in the car and I turn on that ac and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, the trip from Hell is over. The trip

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<v Speaker 3>from Hell is absolutely over. See.

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<v Speaker 5>Some people go to Vegas never make their way out. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>You're one of the lucky ones.

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<v Speaker 3>But the one positive at the airport. I did see,

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<v Speaker 3>was this chick walk by me?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>And she had her hangers out?

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<v Speaker 3>No, she had some hangers and her shirt said blow

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<v Speaker 3>job queen. And I said, how much? Where were you

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<v Speaker 3>before I got married? Would you like to meet my friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold's all I could think. I was like, Hey, who

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<v Speaker 3>the hell where's that? Like, who advertises? That's unbelieva, it's

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<v Speaker 3>even allowed.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so vulgar.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow. And she's just walking around like it's normal,

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's smiling and and I'm gonna say this, she

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't ugly.

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<v Speaker 5>So I made a call to my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, hey, you know, we had a bad weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, do you think it would be okay if I.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Man, dude, that was great, even though it was a

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<v Speaker 9>bad rollercoaster. For the most part it was at least

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<v Speaker 9>one high.

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<v Speaker 3>There was finally a little bit we climbed up a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, but for the most part it was just

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<v Speaker 3>an absolute disaster.

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<v Speaker 5>Disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy. It was that cold, that cold man.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, Jenny and wife, nobody could win. It is

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<v Speaker 3>bad man, but he.

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<v Speaker 5>Was his senses, like how did our big boss do he?

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<v Speaker 5>Who knows? Okay, who knows? How bones do?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm always curious that you know, Like, oh, that person

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<v Speaker 9>ended up winning five K, what that's amazing? Oh h

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<v Speaker 9>Jenny and Sales, she killed it. She won ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 9>What do you hear about Sarah? Yeah, she won a corvette.

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<v Speaker 9>There's always some story. Yeah, or it's like every single

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<v Speaker 9>person lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm no idea, man, I know my four, my

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<v Speaker 3>four crew, we lost. There's a blood bath out there.

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<v Speaker 9>But I did like that you jumped around to different casinos.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't lose at the same casino for four straight days. No, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I got to mix up the joju.

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<v Speaker 3>I moved, I moved, I moved, I moved, I moved

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't damn matter it.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to mix up the juju Smith Schuster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, Hey, have a great Monday, guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>listen to what we need tonight. Just to give me

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<v Speaker 3>some kind I need the Bengals just to win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Just win the game, please, I don't care. Just win

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<v Speaker 3>the game. That's all I need.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh is that another bet you played?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, and just my eliminator, my eliminator.

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<v Speaker 5>Cary Lone.

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<v Speaker 12>She's a queen and talking so she's getting not afraid

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<v Speaker 12>to face episode, so just let it flow. No one

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<v Speaker 12>can do we quiet have a cary Lone. Its sounding carolud.

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<v Speaker 10>I know the basics now, like I I know, like

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<v Speaker 10>even on the voice, I did not know how to

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<v Speaker 10>do an interview at all. They had to be very

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<v Speaker 10>very patient with me. I was like, I just I

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<v Speaker 10>don't know, Like eh, I was just like whatever, I

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<v Speaker 10>don't even know what to talk about. You're sixteen years old. No,

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<v Speaker 10>but yeah, once all of that passed, it was I

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<v Speaker 10>got better, I got in a routine. I was kind

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<v Speaker 10>of I was still very very much a teenager. Like

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<v Speaker 10>I did radio tour and stuff a few times, and

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<v Speaker 10>that that was that was hard because I they saw

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<v Speaker 10>me as a teenager. I still very awkward and awkward looking.

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<v Speaker 10>And by the last radio tour I had grown up

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<v Speaker 10>a lot. So to prove yourself to you know, radio

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<v Speaker 10>and just people in the industry at such like vult

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<v Speaker 10>like just fragile years. So much is changing so much.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I don't know how you survived. Did you

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<v Speaker 11>have a mental breakdown ever? Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I but the really mental breakdowns were when I like

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<v Speaker 10>got older and started to live in relationships and do

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<v Speaker 10>the music industry at the same time. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 10>my god, I'm about to go crazy because these people

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<v Speaker 10>I'm dating are not great.

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<v Speaker 11>So did you have you had a did you have

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<v Speaker 11>like one particular toxic relationship, because there's a whole string,

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<v Speaker 11>like special place in hell for this person. I mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 11>actually loved that song. I love that one that kind

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<v Speaker 11>of but I'm sure it was turned out to be bad.

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<v Speaker 11>Is this all the same person it was?

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<v Speaker 10>It was there was a little moment there that was

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<v Speaker 10>a little interesting.

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<v Speaker 11>But is it all the same person that this is about?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh no, I mean there's so you were getting a

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<v Speaker 11>string of bad guys.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, I did not know how to be. I

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<v Speaker 10>learned a lot, learned a lot, and I won't, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>totally hate on him, but yeah, I mean I had

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<v Speaker 10>I saw this thing where they're like, you have three

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<v Speaker 10>loves in your life throughout your entire life or something,

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 10>and I'm like, that's kind of kind of accurate because

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 10>I had my high school like just super super naive.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, I wish him very well, but that was

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<v Speaker 10>not love at all. It was just I was very

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<v Speaker 10>very young. But we lived together here like right off

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<v Speaker 10>the voice, like we knew each other before and he

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<v Speaker 10>knew me before that. And then after the voice, he

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<v Speaker 10>was like, it just was way too young, yeah to

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<v Speaker 10>go through any of that, Yeah, especially as a as

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<v Speaker 10>a younger boy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Like I'm sure it's turning it for you to

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<v Speaker 11>handle it now. He's trying to like pop in to

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<v Speaker 11>the world with you. So that was a long long

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<v Speaker 11>time ago.

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<v Speaker 10>And then that ended, and then I was single, and

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<v Speaker 10>then I got into a relationship that was very I

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<v Speaker 10>thought I was going to marry the guy.

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<v Speaker 11>I feel like, I remember when you got in this

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<v Speaker 11>relationship because I remember seeing it on Instagram and I

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<v Speaker 11>was like, Okay, it feels like a big relationship.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and then it turned out not to be.

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<v Speaker 11>Tell us the red flags first, So for people listening,

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<v Speaker 11>when you see these red flags, they're actually red flags.

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<v Speaker 10>I got a text from a random number and it

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<v Speaker 10>was a girl and she was like, Hey, are you

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 10>and this person a thing? Because we were kind of

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 10>talking and I just wanted to make sure and I'm like, hmm,

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 10>we've been dating a week and this is already happening,

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 10>and so I want to stay. He was very loving,

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<v Speaker 10>very loving, and I was just he knew how to

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<v Speaker 10>do everything. He was like that type of guy. He

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<v Speaker 10>knew where he just like yeah, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 10>this is this is so awesome. So I was very

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<v Speaker 10>blinded and the rest was history and I we did it.

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<v Speaker 10>Take away is fine. Did it take a while to

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<v Speaker 10>get out of the relationship? Took a lot to get

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<v Speaker 10>out because towards the end of the last year of

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<v Speaker 10>the relationship and we got to a point where his

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<v Speaker 10>mom was like, send me pictures of your favorite rings,

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 10>like it was I was like, this is gonna be

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 10>my guy, even though we have little things to work through.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 10>And so the last year of it, it just completely

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<v Speaker 10>went downhill. And I'm such a caretaker. I'm just like,

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 10>what do you need? And if you're in a bad place,

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, I'm not going anywhere type of thing.

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 11>Like you're like, I'm gonna come meet you in there

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 11>and you'll go sacrifice yourself, yeah, to meet them, And.

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 10>That's what that art. That was the case, and so

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.479
<v Speaker 10>I did not focus on anything about me at all,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 10>And it was like, oh, while I'm doing this, he's

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<v Speaker 10>entertaining other women, and I'm like I So I ran

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<v Speaker 10>myself dry I was like, I and then trying to

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<v Speaker 10>be this trying to sing, go out on stage, and

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 10>that's not an easy schedule. And so when I get

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 10>stressed and I get anxiety, I don't have an appetite.

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 10>So then I lose weight very very quickly, and so

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 10>that gets misled online. So they're like, oh, I get

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.719
<v Speaker 10>shamed for that all the time. They're like, you're so skinny,

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 10>and are you intorexic? And I mean people comment on

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 10>it all the time and controls all the time. Oh yeah,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 10>oh yeah. And so that time I had lost so

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 10>much weight to the point where my mom was like

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 10>freaking out and I'm like, I'm fine, I'm fine. When

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 10>I was not fine, and towards the end of it,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 10>he would like break up with me randomly, just randomly,

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 10>and I'm like, what did I what happen? What did

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 10>I do? You're questioning your whole worth. Then we'd get

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 10>back together because I was just so wrapped into it.

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 10>This was the last time we got back together. I

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<v Speaker 10>had a girl. She was a college girl. They met

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<v Speaker 10>out on the lake and she sent me a snapchat

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<v Speaker 10>of her laying on his couch and him in a

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 10>towel closing the blinds. Yeah, yeah, Like I saw a

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 10>visual that was like the very very last of it.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 10>It was just so bad, and it was like at

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 10>that point I was like, oh my gosh, like this

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 10>is insane. And then I remember I was out with

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 10>Jordan Davis singing Midnight Crisis and we were out on

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 10>the Lukecombs tour and that was like my job to

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 10>go out and sing Midnight Crisis with Jordan. It was

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<v Speaker 10>so fun, so fun. And that was like when we

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 10>were not together but still fighting all the time. It

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 10>was like we still were in contact. And I get

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 10>a fan. Actually, a couple DMed me and they were like,

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 10>hey girl. So we were at Kava and I know

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 10>this was your boyfriend, but I know this isn't you.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 10>And they were like wrapped around each other, just waiting

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 10>to get food. Got that after I got off stage,

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<v Speaker 10>and I got that DM.

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<v Speaker 11>And you're just living with your gut falling down all

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 11>the time. You're just like swallowing.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 10>My body is just being destroyed. So after you got

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 10>off stage, you got that text. I got that DM,

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 10>and my best friend Kyle was with me, and I

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 10>just handed I didn't even say anything. I just handed

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<v Speaker 10>it on the phone, and if you're like living your

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 10>dreams on stage, we were having so much fun. You're

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 10>living keaven and hell at the same time, seriously, and

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 10>we are having so much fun. And that's just life.

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<v Speaker 10>Does kill the devil does. He's like, Hey, you're having

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 10>a good time and you're trying to like live your life,

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 10>but never mind me ruin it for you.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And so so you were like actually in complete

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 11>turmoil while living some of the best moments of your life.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, it's Mike d and this week a movie Mike's

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 13>Movie Podcast. I am celebrating Hispanic heritage a month and

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<v Speaker 13>sharing what I believe are the most essential movies when

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<v Speaker 13>it comes to representing Mexican American life. My parents came

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<v Speaker 13>here from Mexico, and I shared why these movies represent

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 13>the things that they went through. I talked about things

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 13>that I never really talked about before and all because

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<v Speaker 13>of movies. So be sure to check it out in

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 13>its entirety. It would mean a lot to me. But

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<v Speaker 13>right now, here's just a little bit of movie Mike's

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<v Speaker 13>Movie Podcast. The first one in this starter pack has

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<v Speaker 13>to be La Bamba, which is the biopick of Richie Vallens.

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<v Speaker 13>He was the first Mexican American superstar, and he sadly

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 13>passed the way just eight months after his big breakthrough,

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 13>so his entire career was less than a year. And

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<v Speaker 13>as a kid, this movie was so impactful to me because,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 13>like Richie Vallens, I wanted to be a rock star

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 13>and seeing somebody who has brown skin be in that

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 13>role of rock star was so inspiring to me. That

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 13>is what I wanted to do. Before I was doing podcasting,

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.479
<v Speaker 13>before I was doing radio, I was playing in bands,

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 13>singing and playing guitar, and I'd always think back of

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 13>this movie and think, oh, man, I want to look

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 13>cool like Richie Vallens. And I think now as an adult,

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<v Speaker 13>it is inspiring to me to think about the time

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 13>that he did this in back when there were not

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 13>people at all who look like him, at the top

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 13>of the radio charts, playing on television, selling albums the

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 13>way he did. And one of the scenes and moments

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 13>in this movie that really resonated with me was Richie

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<v Speaker 13>Valen's decision to change his name to be more appealing

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 13>to this American audience. Here's that moment from La Bamba.

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<v Speaker 4>Your professional name from now on.

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<v Speaker 14>It's Richie with the T ri tchie.

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<v Speaker 11>I got a new last name for you, too, Valence

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 11>with an S Richie Vallens.

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<v Speaker 4>As I grab you, I don't like it, that's for sure, man.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean Valenzuela was our dad's last name.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't just cut it in half.

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<v Speaker 14>It's no big deal.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 13>People in this business they changed their names like they

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<v Speaker 13>change wives.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 5>Even me.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 12>My last name is Koon.

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<v Speaker 13>I kind of did this in school without thinking about

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 13>it because Mike isn't my real name, and growing up

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 13>I was called my My family actually gave me the

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 13>nickname Mikey because of a movie, obviously, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 13>You have Mikey aka Michelangelo, and we were all huge

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 13>fans of that movie as a family, so everybody just

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 13>called me Mikey growing up. Eventually, I thought, I don't

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 13>want to be called Mike anymore. I don't want to

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 13>be an adult in college of people called me Mikey.

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 13>So I dropped a y and went by Mike. And

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 13>then I developed a stage name because I was working

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 13>in radio and there are so many mics. My last

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 13>name for being a Mexican is pretty common if you

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 13>search it you get so many results. And also, my

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 13>decision to change my name to give me kind of

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 13>an alter ego was something I did just because I

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 13>felt my name was common. But I also feel like

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 13>if you see the name Mike on paper, you don't

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 13>know what you're getting. And I don't know if that

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 13>has had some impact on some of the opportunities I've

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 13>been given over the years, because you hear the name

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.479
<v Speaker 13>Mike d stre and you don't really know what I am.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 13>Some people assume I'm Ittallion. But I just created the

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 13>name because I felt it was unique and because I

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 13>felt that I could get that name on every single

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 13>social media platform, which I have to this day Mike

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 13>Cadistro on all socials. So the history of me changing

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 13>my name all goes back to La Bamba. That is

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 13>why I consider this movie to be an essential for

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 13>Mexican Americans. We'll get out of the eighties now, and

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 13>next up on the list, I have from nineteen ninety

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 13>seven Selena, which is the story of the life and

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 13>tragic death of Selena Quinta niep Edies. She was a

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 13>Mexican American singer who rose to fame in the early

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 13>nineteen nineties. And obviously the movie serves as a biopic.

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<v Speaker 13>What I feel that this movie does a great job

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 13>of is showing what it's like to be a Mexican

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 13>American artist in a predominantly white industry and how you

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 13>struggle to maintain your heritage while also trying to achieve

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 13>mainstream success, in Selina's case, specifically being a Mexican American

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 13>who doesn't primarily speak Spanish. And there's a scene where

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 13>her dad, he is describing that struggle of having to

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 13>live in both of these worlds and be twice as perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Being Mexican American is tough.

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<v Speaker 14>Anglos jump all over you if you don't speak English perfectly.

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<v Speaker 14>Mexicans jump all over you if you don't speak Spanish perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to be twice as perfect as anybody else.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, we gotta know about John Wayne and Phil

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<v Speaker 14>in Funding, we gotta know about Frank Sinatra and Augustine Lada,

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<v Speaker 14>we gotta know about Oprah and Christina. And we got

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<v Speaker 14>to prove to the Mexicans how Mexican we are, and

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<v Speaker 14>we got to prove to the Americans how American we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta be more.

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<v Speaker 14>Mexican than the Mexicans and more American than Americans both

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<v Speaker 14>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 13>I would quote that line all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exhausting, which it is.

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<v Speaker 13>And I've experienced this a lot, not just on a

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<v Speaker 13>professional level, but just on a per level. Of those

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<v Speaker 13>times when I would go to Mexico to visit my

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<v Speaker 13>family there and they look at you differently because they know, oh,

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<v Speaker 13>your parents may be from here, but you are an American,

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<v Speaker 13>and they are over criticizing your Spanish. They make you

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<v Speaker 13>feel that you're kind of a sellout for speaking English,

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<v Speaker 13>dressing the way that you do, thinking that you're better

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<v Speaker 13>than them because you're wearing American brands. They'll call you names,

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<v Speaker 13>they'll make fun of you if you don't know all

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<v Speaker 13>the slang. You better not be caught dead speaking English

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<v Speaker 13>in Mexico because they will grill you. And then you

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<v Speaker 13>come back to the United States and you have to

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<v Speaker 13>speak perfect English. And let me tell you, if you

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<v Speaker 13>grew up speaking Spanish or any other language that is

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<v Speaker 13>not English, it is a very difficult language to learn.

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<v Speaker 13>The English language makes no sense. And I was lucky

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<v Speaker 13>that my older brother and older sister had already learned English.

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<v Speaker 13>Even though they came here and they learned Spanish first,

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<v Speaker 13>and they learned English by watching TV a lot, watching movies.

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<v Speaker 13>Even my mom watching Sesame Street with me as a kid,

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<v Speaker 13>she would learn English from that, and obviously in her

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<v Speaker 13>job now has had to learn English. My dad knows English,

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<v Speaker 13>even though they still prefer to speak Spanish. They knew

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<v Speaker 13>that living in the United States, it was going to

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<v Speaker 13>be difficult for them if they did not learn it.

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<v Speaker 13>But there is this pressure from both sides that you

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<v Speaker 13>have to be the best of both worlds because if not,

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<v Speaker 13>you're seen as being a sellout. You're seeing as being

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<v Speaker 13>an outcast. And for me, that is really the message

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<v Speaker 13>that this movie drove home. Also obviously showcasing the music

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<v Speaker 13>of Selena and how impactful her career was, how quickly

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<v Speaker 13>she rose to fame, and how sad her story is,

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<v Speaker 13>which sadly all the stories about Mexican and American musicians

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<v Speaker 13>don't end will spoiler alert, but Selena is a classic.

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<v Speaker 13>That's why I included it as the third movie on

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<v Speaker 13>my Essentials list.

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