1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Scrapping because we are taking off. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: We have a lot to discuss with you today. Ohio 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan's going to be joining us bottom of 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: this hour. Michael Wattley, former rn C chair and North 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Carolina Senate Canada, joining in the second hour along with 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: our friend Shannon Breen, chief legal correspondent at Fox News. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: She's got a new book out. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: also be breaking down all of the latest news and 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: analysis and important goings on for all of you. Big 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: story still, big guest story, I should say, the ongoing 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: air strikes against the Iranian regime. Also some jitters people 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: are having around the price of oil. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: So we're going to address all of this. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Here is Secretary of War Hegseath at a press conference 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: this morning, promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: with all this stuff. It's going to get even more intense. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: Play three today will be yet again our most intense 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: day of strikes inside Iran. The most fighters, the most bombers, 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: the most strikes, intelligence, more refined and better than ever, 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: So that's on one hand. On the other hand, the 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: last twenty four hours have seen Iran fire the lowest 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: number of missiles they've been capable of firing yet, just 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 3: the bifurcation, just the trend lines that we talked about 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: on our first briefing. You see, this is not two 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: thousand and three. This is not endless nation building under 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: those types of quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama. 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: It's not even close. 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 3: Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again, 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: and nor will this president, who very clearly ran against 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions. 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: So he is saying that everything is going according to plan. 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: arm behind our back from the sky entirely, and this 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: is going to continue and get more intense as the 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: days go on, that we will not relent. Trump last 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: night speaking at Doral, he was down here in the 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Miami area near where I am. Here, he is this 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: has cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: toward achieving what we need to in Iran. 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: Play six. 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective, and 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: some people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: every single force in Iran out very completely. Most of 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: our in's naval power has been sunk. It's on the 47 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 4: bottom of the sea. It's almost fifty ships. He's just 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: notified it's fifty one ships. I didn't know they had that. 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: Many didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels. 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight again. 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: We've struck over five thousand targets today, some of them 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: very major targets, and we've left some of the most 53 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: important targets for later in case we need to do it. 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: If we hit them, it's going to take many years 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: for them to be rebuilt, having to do with electricity 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: production and many other things. So we're not looking to 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: do that if we don't have to clay. 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: It seems like the strategy is bomb them back into 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the Stone Age, so to speak, and wait until they 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: cry uncle and come up with I don't know what. 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: That's the big question that I have. What is supposed 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: to emerge here unconditional surrender, but contingent on what even 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: if they were to say it, What are the next 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: steps supposed to be. This gets to who's going to 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: run this country? Because Pete Hackseeth is saying very clearly 66 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: and Trump has said the same, We're not going to 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: be sending twenty year olds from Kansas and Maine and 68 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Washington State, et cetera, and Texas and every where to 69 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: walk the streets of Isfahan, Kerman, Shah Tehran and Tabreeze 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: not happening. 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: I think we're in a balancing act where who is 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 5: the person we want to be in charge in Iran? 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten 74 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 5: any indication of now. Simultaneously, I understand that why that 75 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 5: is because as soon as the United States acquiesces or 76 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 5: acknowledges that Iran has got a leader we want to 77 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: work with, that definitely puts political pressure on the individuals 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: in Iran too. Do you remember Buck, how the Delci 79 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: Rodriguez played out. Delci Rodriguez And the reason why I 80 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 5: point to this is I think it's the best analogy, 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 5: although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different. But when 82 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 5: Delci Rodriguez came into power, she said a lot of 83 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 5: tough talking things about the United States and many of 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: our United States leaders just kind of said, Okay, she's 85 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: got to say that for political viability in side of Venezuela. 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: But meanwhile, we were having back channel conversations with her, 87 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: and she was basically letting us know what she had 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: to do. Are we having back channel conversations with anyone 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: in Iran that could rise to a level of power. 90 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 5: That's a good question, right, Who are the people that 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 5: Israel may have been working with to help get all 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 5: of these targets that we were able to focus on 93 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 5: and take out so quickly. All of those questions I 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 5: think are still incumbent upon us to resolve. But I 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 5: do think at a minimum, the message that we sent, 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: even if we pulled out tomorrow buck, even if we said, hey, 97 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: mission accomplished, we are out and we are going back 98 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 5: and we're not going to continue to bomb Iran, we 99 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: have sent the message, and I think it's a very 100 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: significant one, not only to Iran but to everybody around 101 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 5: the world that we can basically take out any world 102 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: leader that we want to, and so whomever comes to 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: power in Iran, we can wipe that person out too. 104 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: They know it, we know the world knows it. And 105 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 5: so the question that I have is to what extent 106 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 5: is there someone that we are amenable to that could 107 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 5: be rising to power, and what is the time frame 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: under which that could occur. I think that that's the 109 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 5: question that is still out there right now. I think 110 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 5: the argument that we were going to lose tons of 111 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 5: soldiers is out the window. I think the argument in 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 5: the wake of the last day. But this is one 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 5: of the craziest things I've ever said. When we came 114 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 5: on the air yesterday, everybody was in a full fledged 115 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 5: panic over the price of oil and gas. It hit 116 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty dollars on the market on Sunday 117 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: before we came on the air, and they open overseas 118 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: it's now eighty five dollars. Now that's significant, but it's 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: not that much of a bump, and the straight of 120 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 5: horor moves that appears the oil is actually coming through 121 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: fairly comfortably. We just haven't seen the spike that everybody 122 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 5: said we were going to see. And I think we 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: have the ability to egg is it this escalation whenever 124 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: we want. 125 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 6: And we have. 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: Effectively neutered Iran for decades to come in terms of 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: the they have no air force, they have no navy, 128 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: they have no missiles. Largely their ability to even send 129 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: off these drones has been significantly curtailed. I just I 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 5: look around Buck and say, we're at the who is 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 5: going to lead a ron stage of this military of 132 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 5: this military endeavor. 133 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: The whole IRGC, which we talked about a bit yesterday, 134 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: is set up to be a decentralized and survivable security 135 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: apparatus for a situation like this. 136 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: This is the challenge that we have. 137 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: So they've got the guns, they've got comps set up, 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: they have down to a very localized level terrain knowledge 139 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: human terrain knowledge. Basically, anyone who wants out of their 140 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: home to start a protest in the street liable to 141 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: just get shot by these either besiege or IRGC units. 142 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: So what do we do about that? This is where 143 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: things get a little open ended. I'm not really sure 144 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: what the plan is on this. We can keep blowing 145 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: their military equipment out of the sky, but ultimately whoever 146 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: has the most manpower with guns on the ground willing 147 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: to fight, is likely to be able to stay in control. 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: It's also, by the way, big lesson about the Second Amendment, 149 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: how important the Second Amendment is and armed citizenry right 150 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: because they don't have that the people with the guns 151 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: of the government. 152 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: That's it. Very few people in Iran are going to. 153 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Be able to get out there and get into a 154 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: gun battle with members of the Iraniance Security forces. So 155 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: with all that, Clay, I think that the military side 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: of this is showing incredible. Everything that Hegseeth and Trump 157 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: have been said about this, it's true. It's been an 158 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: amazing display of US military capability. 159 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: Does this go. 160 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Beyond this month, I don't think so. Does this end 161 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: with US troops on the ground, I don't think so. 162 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Does this end with a new government in Iran, I 163 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: don't think so. That's where I come down on this one. Here, 164 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: by the way, here's Hegsat saying this morning has cut 165 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: for Clay just saying they're going to take this to 166 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the end until the enemy says we give up. 167 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: Play for destroy their missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and 168 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them, 169 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: two destroy their navy, and three permanently deny Iran nuclear 170 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: weapons forever. It's a laser focused maximum authority mission delivered 171 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: with overwhelming and unrelenting precision, no hesitation, no half measures. 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: As President Trump declared yesterday, we're crushing the enemy in 173 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We 174 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated. 175 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 6: But we do so. 176 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: We do so on our timeline and at. 177 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 6: Our choosing. 178 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: Sounds good. I hope we get there. 179 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: How many people do you think we in general? 180 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: How many people do you think we have named that 181 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 5: we would be okay with being leaders of Iran? 182 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: I don't think we even have a list of I 183 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: don't think we even have a list of people that 184 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: we think would be We're hoping they emerge, That's my guess. Obviously, 185 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: I've been out of the game a while. Maybe they've 186 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: got someone just ready to go, but I would highly 187 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: doubt it. 188 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: Do you think Israel does because it seems like they 189 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: have basic full optics. It feels like on some level 190 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 5: of inside of Iran and some. 191 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Of those things, I think finding in Iranian who doesn't 192 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: hate Israel, who has any political juice whatsoever inside of 193 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Iran is I'm not sure it's possible. 194 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: It's very I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel 195 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 5: but privately have a relationship with Israel. I mean, maybe, 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 5: like maybe sure that that would be My hope is 197 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: that we could find a solution in that way. And 198 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 5: I think the long run here, look, if you want 199 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 5: to tie Venezuela and Iran together, I think the long 200 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: run is we should have more oil and gas stability 201 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 5: going forward when this situation is ended than we did 202 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 5: before and when you combine it with the United States 203 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 5: ability to produce a ton of oil and gas. You 204 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 5: know this, but because this was a conversation that when 205 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: you started working at the CIA would have been a 206 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: big one. The Middle Eastern countries which basically had the 207 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: ability to curtail oil and gas shipments. It led to 208 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: a lot of petro dictator states. It feels to me 209 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: like the petro dictator state power is altering in a 210 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: way that is favorable to the United States in many respects. 211 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: This is a reminder where any of you who knows 212 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: somebody who works for big oil in this country, works 213 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: for a natural gas company and oil exploration company, you 214 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: should give them a high five. Because America is the 215 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: true global energy producer superpower, which has enormous, enormous geopolitical 216 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: advantages for us in dealing with all of this. We 217 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: got so much of that stuff that we're selling it 218 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: all over the world. But we know we've got secure supply, 219 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: and we know that we are the single most important 220 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: energy producing power on the planet. That's how we come 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: at this one hundred percent. That is the best decision 222 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: we have made in a long time. And by the way, 223 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the states that have rejected that, if you're listening to 224 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: us in California right now, you may well be paying 225 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: well over five dollars a gallon because California, which still 226 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, Buck and I know we got a 227 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of oil and gas, guys and gals out there, 228 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: still has a lot of oil and gas right California 229 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: has the ability to pump far more even more. Instead 230 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: they turned it off affected because of the greenhouse the 231 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: climate change. 232 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 6: Crazy people. 233 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: How many Americans even know this really important trivia. 234 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: And you've got Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, you know, 235 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: you've got some of these countries. You know which country 236 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: is the biggest oil producer in the world. 237 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: America? 238 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: It's America that people, No, it does, I mean, it 239 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: stuns people. We produce more crude oil than any other country. 240 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: We've surpassed Saudi Arabia. We've surpassed, surpassed Russia, and our 241 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: oil industry has done this despite all the climate change, 242 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: which is a complete waste of time and an absurdity 243 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: that no human beings should ever waste three seconds concerned 244 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: about anything else. But our oil industry is one of 245 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: our biggest strategic assets as a nation, and yet Democrats 246 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: trash them all the time and act like they're killing 247 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: all of us. No, actually, you should go thank an 248 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: oil man today, or a woman if she happens to 249 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: work in the oil industry. You should go say thank 250 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: you for what you do, because that's why we can 251 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: go around the world and kick anybody's ass and do 252 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: it in a way that is blowing the minds of 253 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: our top adversaries and enemies, which, by the way, in. 254 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: The First Gulf War, for those of you who remember that, 255 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 5: fear that they would curtail our ability to get oil 256 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: and gas was the impetus to a large extent for 257 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: the First Golf War back in nineteen ninety or whatever 258 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: it was. It was a totally different world. I'll add 259 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: into what you just said, Buck. Do you know what 260 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: country they believe in the Western Hemisphere has the largest 261 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: untapped resources of oil and gas. Venezuela well the biggest 262 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: proven reserves on the planet. Yeah, so the fact that 263 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 5: we now have the ability basically to also access that 264 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: is yet another sign that we are curtailing the power 265 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: of the UH of the oil and gas petro dictators 266 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: all around the world, including Iran Russia. It's not a 267 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 5: surprise that a lot of these countries that are natural 268 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: adversaries two hours are very oil wealthy. 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And I know 296 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: they have said potentially they are going to run together. 297 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 5: But if you look at the odds markets on who 298 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty eight Republican nominee is going to be, 299 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 5: jd Vance had been a big favorite for some time. 300 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: Marco rubiobuck Amid reports that a lot of donors love 301 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 5: him is now surging to the point where he is 302 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 5: about to pass JD Vance as the favorite to be 303 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: the nominee in twenty twenty eight. I know it's a 304 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: ways away. I know we have to get through the midterms. 305 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: But the day after the midterms, so November eighth, or 306 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 5: whatever the heck that day is, this year, effectively the 307 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: brand new twenty twenty eight presidential campaign will begin. And 308 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: one thing to think about Buck is not only Marco 309 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: JD and other people who might run. 310 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 6: What's Trump gonna. 311 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 5: Be like when he's no longer able to be running 312 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 5: for president and potentially no longer the central story of 313 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: the political scene. 314 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: Probably gonna do a podcast. 315 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's really asked in the history of podcasts. 316 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: Gonna have eleventy billion downloads a day. It will be fantastic. 317 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: Some people are saying the best podcast. 318 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 5: I just I think we've gotten used to Trump as 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: the focal point of everything. I don't know what it's 320 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: gonna be like in twenty twenty seven. Very soon from now. 321 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: Well the power goes out like I did here in 322 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: Miami Beach last night's Staying connected can get tricky, that's right. 323 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: I was in total darkness here, but good news is 324 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: if I needed them, I had my rapid radios at hand. 325 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Rapid radios that's what you need for moments when you 326 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: need them. 327 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: They're rugged. 328 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Long range emergency radios go for blackouts and natural disasters. 329 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: When I see long range, I mean coast to coast 330 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: Maine to San Diego, Miami to Seattle. Rapid radios work 331 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: on LTE networks. 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When the world goes quiet, 341 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: make sure you don't communication redefined only at rapid radios 342 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: dot Com. 343 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back into clay In Buck. 344 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: We are joined by congress Jim Jordan of Ohio. Congressman, 345 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: it's been a minute. It's good to have you back. 346 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: How you doing. 347 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 8: I'm doing fine. 348 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: How about you? Pretty good? 349 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: Actually pretty good? Got a little crazier last night. We're 350 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: in a little black out of Miami Beach. This's part 351 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: of it. But now the power's back on, so that's nice. 352 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Gets hot here pretty quickly. Yeah, that's a good deal. 353 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: So unfortunately it was not an Iranian cyber attack or 354 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: anything of the of the like. 355 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: But I was prepared just in case. 356 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: So tell me about what's going on. There's there's a 357 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: fraud hearing in Minnesota. You got Wals, you got Ellison, 358 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: you're talking. You exposed Walls, as I understand it, exposed him. 359 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 6: How what went on here? 360 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 8: Well, he just lied, I mean, and the court did 361 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 8: something I've never seen. The court actually issued a statement 362 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 8: in the press from the court saying, what you have 363 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 8: said about why you restarted this program. So let to say. 364 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 8: What happened is all the whistle blowers and the folks 365 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 8: and the government said, hey, this feeding our Future program 366 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 8: is got all kinds of problems. We don't know what's 367 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 8: going on. All these all these meals going to kids, 368 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 8: but there are no meals, no kids, and they're just 369 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 8: stuff in their podet. There's all kinds of concerns. So 370 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 8: they shut it down and then a month later they 371 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 8: started back up and the payments resumed, and Wall said 372 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 8: he did it because the court ordered, and the court said, 373 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 8: that's not true. I mean, they just told the cover 374 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 8: what you said is completely false. But I believe he 375 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 8: did it for the politics. I mean they were the 376 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 8: Somali community is a large voting block. And we had 377 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 8: this statement from a Somali American who worked in Attorney 378 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 8: General Ellison, the Attorney General there worked in his office 379 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 8: as a front investigator, and said the reason they didn't 380 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 8: go after these folks like they should have is they 381 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 8: were concerned about the voting block that was there for Democrats. 382 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 8: And so yeah, this was they lied about it, and 383 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 8: they they fostered it and allowed it to happen for 384 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 8: political reasons. And I think that are now becoming crystal clear. 385 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 6: When you look. So it was good to see you Friday, Congress. 386 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 5: And Jim Jordan Buck, by the way, I saw tweeted 387 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 5: last night you have to keep tabs on this too, 388 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: that he's working on one hundred and ten mile an 389 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: hour serve. I don't know which side of that you 390 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 5: want to. 391 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 8: Uh, he's doing sprints, He's doing everything's training hard. 392 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: You know the Rocky Montage. 393 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: Rocky's got nothing on middle aged Bucks. 394 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: It's rare that I see something that everybody agrees with 395 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 5: in America that Congress can't pass. And Buck talked about 396 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: this yesterday. Every day we hear about the Save Act 397 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: and Save America, Save America. 398 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Trump is very specific, it is the Save America Act. 399 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: What is what is the latest on this? And uh? 400 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: And do you have any optimism at all? I know 401 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: a lot of the hang up is on the Senate side, 402 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 5: but it's crazy to me, this can't get passed. 403 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 8: No, it's in the craziest right word, you know, less 404 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 8: so many positions the left has. It makes absolutely no sense. 405 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 8: It's completely crazy that you wouldn't want just citizens to vote, 406 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 8: You wouldn't want them to sho an ID because you 407 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 8: have to shown ID for everything. And we got countless 408 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 8: examples from Mom Donnie in the snow Sobs example on 409 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 8: our go. So look, this is in the United States Senate. 410 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 8: Let's have the debate. You know Reagan used to talk 411 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 8: about in politics, you got to paint with big, bold 412 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 8: color so everyone understands what's at stake and a debate 413 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 8: in the Senate where you bring this bill up, you 414 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 8: have the debate, you talk about it, You make the 415 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 8: Democrats look like the fools that they are for embracing 416 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 8: the opposite position of what is everyone knows there's common sense, 417 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 8: what like ninety percent of the country agrees with. You have 418 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 8: the debate and then call the question that that's the 419 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 8: only way you can see what's going on and that's 420 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 8: what needs to happen. And of course I think I 421 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 8: think Senator Film Leadersion will do that. But the center 422 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 8: I think they get after that, the better it is 423 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 8: for the country, and the people of this great nation 424 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 8: will see one party is for this ridiculous position. The 425 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 8: Republican Party is for common sense. And it's not just 426 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 8: this year, it's countless others. 427 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: So you're not thinking that this is going to get 428 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: through or rather you wouldn't even support Congressman if I 429 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: know this would be on the Senate side. But the 430 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Senate getting rid of the filibuster for this specific piece 431 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: of legislation. This is really to make the point to 432 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: the American people in a midterm election year that Democrats 433 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: don't want secure elections. I mean, is that the biggest 434 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: takeaway from the Save America Act. 435 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 8: Well, I hope it passes. And frankly, this idea of 436 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 8: this talking filibuster where you really have to go to 437 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 8: the floor and it's basically, you know, mister Smith goes 438 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 8: to Washington like it used to be. I mean, remember 439 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 8: the Democrats used to use this way back when, back 440 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 8: in the fifties and sixties when they were stopping good legislation. 441 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 8: They had to go talk and talk forever to stop it. 442 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 8: And it was actually then the racist Democrats who were 443 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 8: stopping the Voting Rights Act and all the good things 444 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 8: that were the civil rights issues that were happening, they 445 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 8: would use that technique. So I'm all for them, you know, 446 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 8: happen to do that. But in the end, you've got 447 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 8: to call the question at some point too, and you 448 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 8: got to show the country this is what's at stake. 449 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 8: This is where one party is crazy position, this is 450 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 8: where the Republicans are. I mean, I think this election, 451 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 8: we were just talking about this with some colleagues. I 452 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 8: think the selection is real crazy, are real, real, straightforward. 453 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 8: They're crazy. We're not. And you can go issue by 454 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 8: issue and show that it's crazy to defund the police. 455 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 8: It's crazy to abolish ize. It's crazy to say mention 456 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 8: you compete against women in sports. It's crazy to shut 457 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 8: down the government for forty three days. It's crazy to 458 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 8: say you shouldn't have to show an ID to vote, 459 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 8: you shouldn't have to be a citizen, you can just 460 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 8: go every thinking issue. And it's like their position is crazy. 461 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 8: And the President putted this out so well in the 462 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 8: State of the Union, when they wouldn't stand for something 463 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 8: that was just so common sense. 464 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 5: A ton of people are traveling traveling right now, Congressman, 465 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 5: because it is spring break season, a lot of kids, 466 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 5: a lot of grandkids making trips, and some of the 467 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: lines that you're seeing. To build on what you just said, 468 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 5: I mean, we're talking about three four hour lines at 469 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 5: different locations just to get through airport security. I know 470 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: what Ron's going on. You can give us your take 471 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: on Iran two. But when people start seeing in their 472 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 5: day to day life in competence from government, it makes 473 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 5: them angry. And I can only imagine. I know a 474 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: lot of people out there listening to us right now 475 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: have found themselves in long tsa lines at a time 476 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: of war. It seems beyond absurd to me that Democrats 477 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 5: won't pay the SA agents and get everything back fully open. 478 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 8: No again, just one another example. Their position is abolish 479 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 8: ice or not, you know, do some of the crazy 480 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 8: things they want to do. We're going to shut down 481 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 8: the Department of Homeland Security, and as you point out, 482 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 8: down people are starting to have real implications, real consequences 483 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 8: for this ridiculous action that the Democrats have taken. And 484 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 8: never forget when they attack guys. Understand what happened in 485 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 8: Minneapolis with mister Pretty and miss Good. We're tragic, but 486 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 8: understand what I say to jimping up against They've been tracked, 487 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 8: they've been docks, they've been stit on, they've been sworn at, 488 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 8: they've been screened at. They've had death threats to themselves, 489 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 8: to their families, they've been attacked physically, you name it. 490 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 8: It's happened to them all because of the radical left. 491 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 8: And now they're taking this position unless you change all 492 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 8: that make we're not gonna we're not going to fund 493 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 8: the Department of Homeland Security at a time when we're 494 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 8: in this armed conflict with with Iran. Makes again no sense. 495 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: So tell me about this conflict with around as you 496 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: see it, We've played some soundbites from the President last 497 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: last evening at Durral. We've played Pete Hagsath Secretary war 498 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: this morning. They seem both very pleased with the progress 499 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: so far and very confident in the mission. We hear 500 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: from a lot of Trump supporters who are cautious in 501 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: their assessment of this. They're concerned in their assessment of this. 502 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: Where do you come down on this, Congressman. 503 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 8: No, I mean I agree with the President, and you know, 504 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 8: God bless our military and what they've been able to 505 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 8: accomplish in this short, short period of time. I do 506 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 8: think you know the concern is not the same here. 507 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 8: This is this is this President is not gonna, I believe, 508 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 8: get America locked into something like we had with our rack, 509 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 8: which was all years and years and all the money 510 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 8: that was spent there. So we all know that I 511 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 8: ran to the largest state sponsored terrorism. We know that 512 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 8: taking out and stopping these guys from getting nuclear capability 513 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 8: building on Midnight Hammer from last year's taking out their 514 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 8: missile launch sites and their missiles so they can't continue 515 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 8: to pursue this, this nuclear capability that they're after. That 516 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 8: is good for us, That is good for our best 517 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 8: friend Israel. That is good for the world, that is 518 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 8: good for the Iranian people in the end. So, and 519 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 8: they've been at this, this this regime for what forty 520 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 8: seven almost almost fifty years, where they have killed Americans, 521 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 8: killed Israeli has killed all kinds of other people around 522 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 8: the world and killed a number, huge number of their 523 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 8: own citizens. So I think this is good. And look, 524 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 8: we hope it's We hope it doesn't last real long. 525 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 8: The President has said that, and this president makes decisions 526 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 8: that are in the best interest of the country. We've 527 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 8: seen it time and time again. And this president, more 528 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 8: than any president I've ever known, does what he said 529 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 8: he would do. And he told us he was not 530 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 8: going to let this nation, this this you know, terrorist 531 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 8: sponsoring nation get nuclear capability is found and determined to 532 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 8: make sure that that doesn't happen. 533 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 6: We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio. 534 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: I saw you Friday afternoon at the White House for 535 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 5: the NIL event. How optimistic are you that, in addition 536 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 5: to solving all the other things going on right now, uh, 537 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 5: that Congress is going to be able to under President Trump, 538 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 5: who's super fired up about this issue, fix college athletics. 539 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 8: Well, I needs fix, and the President is determined, like 540 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 8: is in so many other important issues. Uh you saw that, 541 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 8: Like like I did on Tray afternoon, I think we 542 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 8: can get the step one is to get a ball 543 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 8: in play, use personality with this we got. We got 544 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 8: to pass the Score Act because at a minimum we 545 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 8: have to do some kind of any trust relief for 546 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 8: the governing institution for college sports. Every major professional sports 547 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 8: league has has specific relief among anti trust law. Uh 548 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 8: based has it explicitly other sports, it's implied and they 549 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 8: have real relief. You have to do the same here 550 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 8: or it's just going to be more court cases that 551 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 8: are going to determine all the rules for how college 552 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 8: sports operates, and we're going to continue to have this mess. 553 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 8: So that at a minimum has to happen. 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It's one that should be talked about more, 601 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 5: and it actually has created a situation where Middle Eastern 602 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 5: countries do not have us constantly at their beck and 603 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 5: call over what the price of oil and gas is? 604 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: By the way, and can I just also point out, clay, 605 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: this is because of fracking, Yes, which used to be 606 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: a dirty word. Remember they made documentaries about how fracking 607 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: was going to catch the water on fire and all lie, 608 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: all nonsense. Fracking has turned us into an energy superpower. 609 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Big Oil. 610 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: This should be a big topic of discussion for many 611 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: of you in California as this is wild. As the 612 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 5: United States has become the foremost producer of oil and 613 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: gas in the world, California has simultaneously gone in the 614 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 5: exact opposite direction and overwhelmingly begun to restrict oil and 615 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: gas production in their state, which is one of the 616 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 5: states that, if oil and gas production were permitted, would 617 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 5: have one of the largest production capabilities in the country. Okay, 618 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 5: what has the result actually led to overwhelming surge in 619 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 5: oil and gas prices for people in California. So I 620 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: do think this is so significant the policy direction of 621 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 5: California and other states, but California in particular, because it 622 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 5: has the ability to produce so much oil and gas, 623 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: has been directly contradicted by the larger American policy. If 624 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 5: the nation had gone as California has, we would be 625 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 5: totally reliant upon oil and gas producers in the Middle East, 626 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 5: in Russia, in Venezuela in a way that we are not. 627 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: You know who is buck China forty percent. I was 628 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 5: reading this morning of China's oil and gas comes through 629 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: the Strait of hor moves. They have to bring in 630 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 5: the vast majority of the oil and gas that their 631 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 5: country consumes, based on my reading of this situation, and 632 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 5: that's one reason they've been allies of Venezuela and Iran, 633 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 5: because they've been trying to preserve oil and gas that 634 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 5: they have to bring in in order to fuel their economy. 635 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, and they're buying at a cut rate prices because 636 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: you can't buy that oil if you're Europe. You can't 637 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: buy that oil if you're America, obviously. So the whole 638 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: deal is these sanctions busters. If you will, like China 639 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: come in and say, oh, we'll buy your Iranian oil 640 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: for you know, eighty cents on the dollar or whatever. 641 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: Whatever. 642 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 8: This is. 643 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 5: What is the has been doing that Trump finally cracked 644 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 5: down on, is taking all the Russian oil and just 645 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 5: sending it back out. But basically laundering Russian oil through 646 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: India and taking a profit on top of it. We 647 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 5: got a couple of interesting calls here. I'll start with 648 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 5: Tom in South Carolina. He has a question for you, Buck, 649 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 5: fire away, Tom, all right. 650 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 9: My question is, and give me a second here, supposed 651 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 9: Iranians have activated the sleeper cells all across the world 652 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 9: into America. My thing is, those people have probably been 653 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 9: here a while, probably like it now, have families and 654 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 9: think that their regime is going to be toppled. So 655 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 9: do you think if they get that text to start 656 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 9: attacking that they just ignore it and want with their life, 657 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 9: thinking that they'd rather live a life in America and 658 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 9: the regime will be gone eventually. 659 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: It totally depends. It's a very good question. It's just 660 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: there's so many facets this. It totally depends. I think 661 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot. You have people who are ideological fellow travelers 662 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: who are essentially Jihattists who just want to lash out 663 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: at enemies of the Islamic Revolution, right, I mean this 664 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: this lunatic in Texas, for example, in Austin with like 665 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: the Iranian leader or you know the mulos. 666 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: On his T shirt. 667 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: There are people like that who I don't think have 668 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: gotten If they haven't gotten any KUDS force training, they're 669 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: not operatives that have received some level of trade craft. 670 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: They're just wackos who want to help Iran. And you know, 671 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: we don't know how many of them there are. What 672 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: you're asking, I think is more what about Hezbola trained 673 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: infiltraders coming across the southern borders setting up here. The 674 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: numbers that we have on those are guesses at best, 675 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: and whether they are ideologically committed or not. You know, 676 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: you can go and watch there's a great series the 677 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: Americans about Russian deep deep cover agents illegals. They actually 678 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: call them, not illegal aliens, but illegals. Is what the 679 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: Russian KGB. Have you ever seen the Americans play? It 680 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: is a fantastic series. It's an a it's an A series, 681 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: really really good. 682 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been out, I mean what it's probably finished 683 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 5: about five years ago or so now more maybe ten. 684 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 5: It's been a while. Yeah, I watched it back in 685 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 5: the day. It was fantastic. Marv Quickly in and Canada, 686 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 5: what you got for us? 687 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 10: I just wanted to weigh in on your comments about 688 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 10: oil pricing. Oil pricing last week hitting almost one twenty. 689 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 10: Oil pricing right now at below eighty three dollars a barrel. 690 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 10: It's a thirty percent drop. The last time that we 691 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 10: saw thirty percent drop in oil pricing was when Russia 692 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 10: invaded Ukraine. This kind of dramatic drop. The catalyst for 693 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 10: that is global, incredibly significant global actions that are taking place. 694 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 5: We will discuss that and more. Oil prices down thirty 695 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 5: five dollars since yesterday.