1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's one day, the fourth of September here 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: in London. This is the Blueberg daybreakurate podcast. I'm Caroline Hipki. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, President Zelenski removes 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: his defense chief as Ukraine's counter offensive makes a breakthrough. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: The UK Chancellor says he is confident inflation will drop 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: to five percent this year. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: And we learned that Apple's latest iPhone will come with 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: the same charging port as a Thrivals. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Ukraine's Defense minister is being replaced. Alexei Resnakhoff held the 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: postents before Russia's invasion, but face repeated allegations of corruption 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: related to military procurement. The move comes as multiple sources 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: confirm Ukraine has achieved to break through in its Russian 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: counter offensive. Here's at the White House. National Security spokesman 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: John Kirby told reporters on Friday. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: We had noted whole gonna last seventy two hours or so, 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: some notable progress by Ukrainian enforces in that southern wine 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: coming out of the Zapparizi area, and they have achieved 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: some success against that second line of Russian defenses. 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: Kirby's comments, Commas reports emerged that Russia's getting significant financial 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: support from Beijing. According to The Financial Times, China's biggest 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: banks are now extending loans worth billions of dollars to Moscow. 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: China's Shijingping is set to skip this month G twenty 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: summit for the first time. It's not exactly clear why. 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: One thing, though that is evident. Missing the event means 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: that President she will avoid thorny questions on his support 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: for russia aggression towards Taiwan and China's economic trajectory. Speaking 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: after her trip to the country, the US Commerce Secory 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Gina Beimondo said that America is looking for more than 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: words from their geopolitical rival. Trust is probably not the 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: word I would use. We need to see action, and 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: until we see action, there can be no Trustina Raimondo 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: also told CBS's Face the Nation that while quote, not 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: every investment from China into America harms on national security, 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: but many do. 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 2: Here In the UK, the Chancellor Jeremy Hunts as tax 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: cuts are on the agenda if economic growth improves. Speaking 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: ahead of Parliament returning today, Hunt defended the Conservative government's 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: handling of the economy. 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: Until you get inflation down, you can't end the misery 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: for families who see the cost of their weekly shop 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 4: going up, the cost of their filling up their tank 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: of petrol, they see that going up as well, and 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 4: that was an absolute priority for US. 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Chancellor Jeremy Hunt, insisting the government is on track to 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: hit its target of reaching five percent inflation by the 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: end of the year. He also promised to spend what 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: it takes as a crisis over crumbling school buildings threatens 49 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: to overshadow good economic news. 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Mercedes are promoting an electric vehicle which outperforms a Tesla, 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: as the car maker challenges Elon Musk's dominance. The German 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: automaker's new Cla sedan can drive one hundred and fifty 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: kilometers further on a single battery charge. Coeo owner Collenius 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: says that it's aimed at the high end of the market. 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 5: Our goal is value over volume, so we're not pushing volume. 56 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 5: We're very very careful about how we go to market 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 5: or go to market strategy, and as you can see 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: from the Resalt for the first six months of this year, 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: that has been working quite well for us. We're focused 60 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: on value for the customer. I don't think the customer 61 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 5: expect from a Mercedes a little bit of a roll 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: across the ride, but something that you can depend on. 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: So we will continue with the value over volume strategy. 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Colleniusay's new car comes as Mercedes is under pressure to 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: bolster its lineup after disappointing sales in China. 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Apple is expected to change the iPhone charging ports for 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: the first time in eleven years, moving from lightning to 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: USB c ports. Consumers can now look forward to using 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: a single charging cable for multiple Apple devices, faster charged 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: for the iPhone, and more phones being compatible with chargers 71 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: for non Apple devices. The company will confirm the date 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: of the shift at its iPhone fifteen event on the 73 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: twelfth of September. Well, looking at some of the stories 74 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: that caught our eye, I think I'm still sort of 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: my head's still slightly spinning after an ONS release on 76 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: Friday which sort of undid a lot of the thought 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: around what the UK economy has done since the end 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: of COVID. It's a revision based on new data from 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: the ONS which shows the UK has returned to its 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: pre COVID levels and had done so in fact at 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty one. 82 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is more than a year and a half 83 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: earlier than we had thought, so all of that bemoaning 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: and hand ringing about the state of the UK economy 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: suddenly wiped out. It took a lot of people by surprise. 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: The Independent newspaper talking about it being a huge lucky 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: break for soon at the Prime Minister. Our economic performance 88 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: was similar to that of most other countries and the 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: third best in the G seven. Having said that, one 90 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: caveat we don't know that for sure because this is 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: a revision of the data from the Statistics Office here 92 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: in the UK, But of course other countries have a 93 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: similar process, so we don't exactly know what the picture 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: will look like elsewhere, but you know, for now it 95 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: looks quite positive. 96 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: It certainly gives the government, as the Independent's pointing out, 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: a bit of a boost when it comes to the 99 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: calculations around the performance of the UK's economy. And it 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: is interesting that the o ands is able to provide 101 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: this more detailed data, richer data, as they describe it, 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: from things like the costs incurred by businesses and also 103 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: that allows them to adjust for price levels at a 104 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: much more detailed level. But this, as you say, comes 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: with the note of caution that there could be revisions 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: that come from other countries. 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, twenty twenty the UK economy still did shrink 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: five point eight percent. Obviously the pandemic twenty twenty one 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: revive up from seven point six percent to eight point 110 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: seven cents, So that was the bounce back after covid Okay, Well. 111 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: Let's turn to Ukraine next, where President Zelenski is replacing 112 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: his Defense minister Allegate after allegations that the department overpaid 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: for military supplies. This as we are also watching a 114 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: key meeting today between Vladimir Putin and Turkey's Right to 115 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: Tia Berduwan, who are going to be discussing the Black 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: Sea grain export deal that Russia abandoned in July. Are 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: europe correspondent Maria today I was with us for the latest. 118 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Maria. What is the significance first 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: of all of President Zelenski replacing Alexi Rasnikoff. 120 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 6: Well, it's a huge announcement that was made yesterday by 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 6: the Ukrainian president. As you see, this is the biggest 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 6: or would be the biggest reshuffle in his cabinet, but 123 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 6: also really going to the core of the defense ministry 124 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 6: by removing the defense Minister who had been on the 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 6: job for the entirety of the war. And of course 126 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 6: we know him pretty well because this is an individual 127 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 6: that you would see repeatedly at NATO meetings. You would 128 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 6: see him also at cabinet meetings with other European defense ministers, 129 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 6: US officials two always calling for this idea of more 130 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 6: weapons for Ukraine. So the announcement yesterday by Selensky again 131 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 6: saying a lot of this had to do with allegations, 132 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 6: the idea that maybe the Defense ministry overpaid for things 133 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 6: like food and uniforms for the army. Of course, the 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 6: more you overpay, the more you have money that is 135 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: swirling around that may end up in well, non official pockets. 136 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 6: So that is the announcement by Selensca and the significance 137 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 6: of it beyond the implications on the battlefield and the 138 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 6: counter offensive, which I'm not sure there will be many, 139 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: because we should note that the Defense Minister obviously oversees 140 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 6: the operations, he oversees the funding, and he makes sure 141 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 6: that the army has supplies, but he doesn't really handle 142 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: the actual combat. That has left to generals. But overall, 143 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 6: what it shows once again is that persons. Lensky has 144 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 6: been very mindful of this idea of corruption and tackling corruption. 145 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 6: Remember a month ago he was also announced that he 146 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 6: dismiss recruitment officers who were also accused of mishandling funding. 147 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 6: A lot of this goes into the idea that Ukraine 148 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 6: has to show that it's a serious country a because 149 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 6: it is dependent on external funding. We know that billions 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: of dollars euros have gone into this country, so they 151 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 6: have to show that there is not just value for money, 152 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: but obviously that they take seriously this money. And then 153 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: too politically, remember, this is a country that wants to 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: join the European Union. This is a country that says 155 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 6: will make tackling corruption and Ukraine has for many years 156 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: a bad reputation in terms of that issue. So it's 157 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: also political here. He wants to send a political signal 158 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 6: that not only they're not brushing this under the car, 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 6: but but he's actually tackling head on. 160 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the strength of governance in Ukraine was an issue 162 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: pre war. How big a problem do we think that 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: corruption is in Ukraine's war effort? Right now though, Look that. 164 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 6: I would not get into because I feel like, again 165 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 6: there's a number of things before we can say that 166 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 6: the Defense Minister himself, and obviously there's significance to that, 167 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 6: because this is a man that oversees the ministry and 168 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 6: the governmental operation when it comes to the war effort, 169 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 6: which is tremendous as we know for the past two years, 170 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 6: this war almost going on. 171 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: Now. 172 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 6: Look, the reality is at this point he has denied 173 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 6: the allegations. It is unclear whether Ukraine also by doing this, 174 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 6: presidence Lansky believes that he has benefited from this personally. 175 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 6: We also know that the Ukrainian parliament will have to 176 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 6: vote this move and vote in favor to remove him, 177 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 6: and then of course the investigation continues. So I think 178 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 6: the entire size of this remains to be seen. But 179 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 6: again I would go back to this idea of showing 180 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 6: value for money. When it comes to Ukraine, we know 181 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 6: that again billions have been pumped into this country, not 182 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 6: just in weapons but also in direct funding, and of 183 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 6: course this is a counter offend. The shift that we 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 6: know is proven difficult, and it's proven hard. So also 185 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 6: for Ukrainians, there's a whole interest in this being quote 186 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 6: unquote cleaned and focusing on the battle. 187 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: It's turned to that meeting between Presidents put and Urduwan 188 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: set to take place later to do with grain exports. 189 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: What's at stake in this meeting, Well, it. 190 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 6: Has to do with the grain exports and overall it 191 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 6: has to do with more than thirty million tons of 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 6: food that were exported through this grain deal. Remember that's 193 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: what the United Nations has credited this deal for. This 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 6: is a deal that was mediated by the United Nations, 195 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 6: as I say, but also Turkey, connecting Ukraine and Russia. 196 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 6: What we know now you said this at the top 197 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 6: of the show, is that Russia pulled out of it 198 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 6: unilaterally last month. What it changes here is that a 199 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 6: lot of the ships that would be crucial in terms 200 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 6: of getting at these food components and grain are now 201 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 6: being treated by Russia and Ukraine too, because remember that 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 6: was a tid for ted response from the Ukrainian government. 203 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 6: They're now being treated as potentially military cargo and therefore 204 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 6: potentially a military target. What Urduwan hopes to get in 205 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 6: this deal is Russia back at it to make sure 206 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 6: that we go back to a format that we had 207 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 6: before where both Russia and Ukraine would facilitate ships like 208 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 6: this that export food to operate safely in the Black Sea. 209 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 6: We know that ERDA one once as a United Nations, 210 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 6: wants as a European Union, wants us to Ukraine wanted 211 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 6: it to. The question is whether he can get Ladimir 212 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: put Into agree to it. 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, and we futures remain pretty volatile on that prospect. Really, Maria, 214 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. That is 215 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: our europe correspondent Mura today. 216 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: A tontal different story. Now we've been reporting regularly over 217 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: the past few months, but how a shortage of rental 218 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: properties in London has driven it double digit increases in 219 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: rental costs. But it's a problem that's being seen in 220 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: many major cities across Europe. This is something that Bloomberg 221 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Sarah Jacob has been looking into and she joins us 222 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: now for more. Good morning to you, Sarah. Why is 223 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: it that renters are finding it more hard now to 224 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: find apartments they did before and how widespread is this problem? 225 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 5: Hi? 226 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, They're a host of factors that are you know, 227 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 7: affecting cities from Zurich to Dublin, Lizbond and Amsterdam it's 228 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 7: basically a mismatch between demand and supply. On one hand, 229 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 7: you have rising modket rates which have forced many people 230 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 7: to postpone buying a home or an apartment. There's higher 231 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 7: migration in many cities and that's increased the demand and 232 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 7: the rental market. On the supply side, there's a small 233 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 7: size of European cities, you know, and higher concentration of 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 7: historic and low rise buildings in Europe. That's sort of 235 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 7: coupled with an environment of high inflation rates and in 236 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 7: turn high construction costs, which is impacting supplies. So these 237 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 7: factors combined are resulting in rents arising across several large 238 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 7: cities in Europe. 239 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: What are the factors then causing this sort of housing 240 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: shortage in a number of different cities. 241 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 7: So, I mean, in many ways governments have identified the 242 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 7: problem that you know, there is this this severe shortage, 243 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 7: and they introducing plans to tackle it. But the other 244 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 7: main factor is basically just inflation and green policies, you know, 245 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 7: which is raising construction costs. They aren't enough, they aren't 246 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 7: able to build enough or build fast enough to keep 247 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 7: up with this rising demand. 248 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: What about the role of migration, all of this as well. 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: Population growth in some of these cities is part of 250 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: what this story has been playing out. 251 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's right. 252 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 7: So in a lot of large cities of governmental tax 253 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 7: breaks and they're leading to a lot of global companies 254 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 7: setting up offices in big cities, which is it sort 255 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 7: of turn attracting a lot of high skilled workers from 256 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 7: other countries. So in Lisbon your locals who are protesting 257 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 7: against being priced out of the city center, as as 258 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 7: an influx of you know, wealthy foreigners. In many cities 259 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 7: in Eastern Europe, there's been an influx of Ukrainians fleeing 260 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 7: the war. In Amsterdam, for instance, the municipality has said 261 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 7: that in twenty twenty two the population growth and migration 262 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 7: can even be referred to is extreme. So it's definitely 263 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 7: a big factor play note. 264 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Here, and what impact does it have then on the 265 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: broader economy? I mean, if people are having to pay 266 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: so much of their income on rental costs. 267 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're seeing you know a lot of those people 268 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 7: who can't afford to buy homes are sort of being 269 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 7: forced to, you know, give up a larger portion of 270 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 7: their income on housing. You're seeing in places like Dublin 271 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 7: and Lisbon, young professionals are moving back in with their 272 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 7: parents in many instances. In other areas, people are being 273 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 7: forced to find apartments in the suburbs or satellite out 274 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 7: that they're commuting into biggest cities. 275 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: What are people doing then to get apartments in these 276 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: high demand places. 277 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, real estate agents are seeing you know, several like 278 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 7: one hundred two hundred responses on each partner listics, So 279 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 7: people are starting to get a bit creative to stand out. 280 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 7: In Amstem, for instance, we spoke to a mother who 281 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 7: is actively searching for an apartment for her son as 282 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 7: he prepared to go to university this month. Then she 283 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 7: was searching for about four four months, logging in ten 284 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 7: times a day on online to look at websites that 285 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 7: she wasn't successful, and she finally started getting more viewings 286 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 7: when she created an ad or a resume of sorts 287 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 7: for her son and put up his pictures and interest 288 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 7: and shared it on social media. In Zurich, your seeing 289 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 7: apartment hunters, you know, taking wine, chocolates and their bag 290 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 7: statements to viewing. 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