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Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hello, Khalila, Hello, let me get Stevie hang on.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hey, Hey, how are we Stevie.

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Speaker 3: I actually had a really great weekend.

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Speaker 1: What did you do?

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Speaker 3: I saw two friends this weekend.

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Speaker 1: As in real life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my friends Peter and Leo, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we stayed six feet apart and everything. But like, like,

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Speaker 3: I saw friends, and it's been so long since I've

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Speaker 3: seen in person a friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was waiting for them outside and I heard Peter go,

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Speaker 3: you know, Stevie, and it was like immediately I felt

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Speaker 3: like I was like lighter, you know, like it really

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Speaker 4: Light, like.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't really. Yeah, it was very

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Speaker 3: hard to resist the urge to just go over and

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Speaker 3: like give them a hug.

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Speaker 5: It was like.

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Speaker 3: Fighting with that, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I also saw people for the first time, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten feet apart this weekend, my in laws. They came by.

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Speaker 1: I think it was nice for Aggie occasionally, of course,

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Speaker 1: like you would forget and kind of run towards them

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Speaker 1: and we'd have to pull them back ground Rampa, Aggie,

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Speaker 1: stay stay back. Can I just feel ground Rampa? And

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Speaker 1: I think those were the moments that felt the roughest

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Speaker 1: because you know, it's sort of like you're negating this natural,

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Speaker 1: wonderful tendency to run towards people that you love. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Aggie and his grandparents were exchanging knock knock jokes.

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Speaker 6: Aggie knock knock who.

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Speaker 1: All of Augie's knock knock jokes made no sense? Knock

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Speaker 1: and a doctor, doctor nas Lagula. Yeah, so that was

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Speaker 1: kind of it was a mixed bag, but it was

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Speaker 1: it was kind of nice. Yeah, Khalila, And what have

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Speaker 1: you been up to? How was your weekend?

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Speaker 2: Just something about like this past week especially, like I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I think it just hit the point of

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Speaker 2: really sort of feeling like gray. Like I feel like

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Speaker 2: I really was like hitting a point of like despair

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Speaker 2: kind of. Uh so this weekend, Sorry you guys, I

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Speaker 2: don't know why I'm getting so emotional.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So well so one thing we did.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, this is you and your boyfriend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me and sam my boyfriend got a zip car

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Speaker 2: for yesterday to just like go somewhere else, which ended

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Speaker 2: up being nice, Like we had a nice day, but

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Speaker 2: the planning of it sort of just like it made

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Speaker 2: us both feel worse because we were like, oh, like

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Speaker 2: everything is closed, Like yeah. It just really made it

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Speaker 2: feel like, oh, there's like nowhere, there's like nothing to do.

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Speaker 2: And we ended up going to Fort Dolden and walking

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Speaker 2: along the beach and having lunch out there, which was nice. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then in the evening I watched a movie, which

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Speaker 2: is like all I've been doing is watching a ton

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Speaker 2: of movies. But I miss like going to like a

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Speaker 2: movie theater, like going to the movies. So I made

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Speaker 2: popcorn on the stove Twesdales sens oil, which I'd never

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Speaker 2: made it on the stove before, Like I'd had it

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Speaker 2: with my family that way, but I'd never just done

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Speaker 2: it myself.

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Speaker 1: And you've had popcorn in a movie theater.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've had plenty of popcorn in a movie theater.

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Speaker 2: I once ate so much popcorn in a movie theater

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Speaker 2: that I threw up afterwards.

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Speaker 1: This was as a child, I'm assuming.

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Speaker 2: Nope, this was like two years ago. Really so sad.

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Speaker 1: No, that sounds like living the dream. How can you

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Speaker 1: be sure that it was from overeating popcorn?

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Speaker 2: This has happened to me? But before I think the

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Speaker 2: problem is if I don't eat dinner and then I

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Speaker 2: eat just popcorn with a lot of movie theater butter

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Speaker 2: on it. It like makes me a little noxious, but

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Speaker 2: I love it, so I always eat it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So you so you really love popcorn?

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Speaker 2: I love popcorn. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And did you use the technique of like where you

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Speaker 1: wait for the first kernel to pop and then you

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Speaker 1: start shaking the pan vigorously?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And actually when I heard the first one, I was like,

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Speaker 2: a pop.

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Speaker 7: That sounded like a.

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Speaker 1: Pop really makes you question yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah it does, but it turned out really well, and

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Speaker 2: I put I melted real butter to put on it.

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Speaker 3: Did it make you less naxious?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it actually did any success. You didn't throw up.

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Speaker 2: I didn't throw up.

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Speaker 1: What was there like something just about like having like

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Speaker 1: popcorn to watch a movie with?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was nice. Yeah, I mean it did make it

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Speaker 1: I guess there's something like just about the sound of

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Speaker 1: popcorn popping that I think is like, universally like one

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Speaker 1: of the most wonderful sounds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I think we're in business here.

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Speaker 1: You know what else I've been up to, and this

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Speaker 1: is going to cheer you up. This is going to

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Speaker 1: cheer us all up. Okay, you ready for some good cheer?

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Speaker 1: I guess I decided that as a special surprise, I

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Speaker 1: was going to check in with some favorite people from

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Speaker 1: the show, people that we and America and parts of

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Speaker 1: Canada have grown to love, like you. My old friend.

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Speaker 2: Gregor a favorite.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, we talked for a while. He's homeschooling his kids,

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Speaker 1: he's taken on their education, and we got to talking

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Speaker 1: and do you remember a young man named Joey?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How could I forget?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Could we forget? Two seasons ago, Gregor and I went

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to help him. He had been banned

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Speaker 1: from his favorite pizzeria, and Joey's kind of a sloppy guy,

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Speaker 1: and he was having trouble with his roommates.

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Speaker 3: Of which there were many many, yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, many, many many roommates, And so Gregor and I

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Speaker 1: had kind of decided that we would give Joey a call,

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Speaker 1: check in with him and see how he's doing during

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Speaker 1: this quarantine. There was something that happened during the course

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Speaker 1: of our telephone call that kind of made Gregor and

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Speaker 1: I feel really good about having called him in the

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Speaker 1: first place. Because it seemed like he was still in

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Speaker 1: need of our help. Joey, is this so? I think

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Speaker 1: it is good to hear your voice. Guess who I

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Speaker 1: have on the line here.

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Speaker 7: It's a me, Joey, the one and only.

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Speaker 6: You sound exactly the same, only healthier.

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Speaker 7: I think I am healthier than the last time we

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Speaker 7: were together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you radiate health.

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Speaker 7: My diet is a little more varied than it was

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Speaker 7: when we.

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Speaker 1: Last spoke, when it was just pizza.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I've moved on from dale old cold pizza to some

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Speaker 7: some actual veggies.

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Speaker 6: Now, go on, What do you got in your crisper drawer, Joey?

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Speaker 7: The house? My house just went to the grocery store yesterday.

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Speaker 7: So okay, we got egg plant, lemons, and limes. Oh, leaks.

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Speaker 7: That's a fun one. Who whoever has a leak?

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Speaker 1: I think we can pause you there, Joey. Do you

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Speaker 1: still have that mustache?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm growing a quarantine beard as well.

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Speaker 1: Are you still keeping up with your ruler blading for.

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Speaker 7: The most part, I mean it's it's kind of slowed

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Speaker 7: down because it's not super fun to roly blade in

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Speaker 7: a mask.

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Speaker 6: I think last week left Joey he had a roommate situation.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 1: So now what's what's your deal? You're living on your own.

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Speaker 7: I I'm living in a much better situation now, living

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Speaker 7: in a duplex apartment with six other boys, so you know,

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Speaker 7: a little little tight quarters.

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Speaker 1: But how many roommates did you have back back when I.

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Speaker 7: Think it was five?

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Speaker 1: And now you've got sick by want.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's a bigger space, it's like a real house.

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Speaker 7: I'll admit. I still am in a curtained off kind

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Speaker 7: of a makeshift living room turned bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Deal. Wait, so you still have bed sheets for walls?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, only one wall this time, as opposed to all

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Speaker 6: I gotta say, no offense to Joey, But Johnny, I

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Speaker 6: think your craftsmanship in fixing Joey's life is questionable.

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Speaker 7: No, it's way better now.

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Speaker 6: Chick up another roommate and he's got a sheet for

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Speaker 6: a wall again.

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Speaker 1: Why only a sudd when Joey's not doing well, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's my son, Joey.

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Speaker 6: Well, he was your charge. You said, I'm going to

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Speaker 6: get this guy out of his like, no, we were.

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Speaker 7: Both Well well that's the thing. See, I'm giving you

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Speaker 6: I just picture him on his rollerblades on a slight

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Speaker 6: he's going backwards down the hill.

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Speaker 7: Okay, but downhills are always the funnest part of rollerblading.

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Speaker 1: So you're you have now six roommates.

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Speaker 7: Yep, we've all been friends for years since college.

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Speaker 1: You're pitching in, I'd say so.

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Speaker 7: But lately, since quarantine started, it seems like the other

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Speaker 7: trying to keep things clean, which, you know, I get

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Speaker 7: we're spending more time at home, things get messy easier.

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Speaker 7: But to me, like I, I can't, you know, clean

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Speaker 7: every crumb every single time, Like that's just put going

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Speaker 7: a little too far. And so this started really getting

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Speaker 7: into one of my roommates. Every time I would leave

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Speaker 7: a single crumb, a single knife in the in the sink,

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Speaker 7: he would like confront me head on. And this really

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Speaker 7: just blew up the other The other morning, like when

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Speaker 1: Is this yours?

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Speaker 7: And like he just wanted to just get into it

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Speaker 7: as my first thing I hear in the morning, and

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Speaker 7: I just really couldn't, Like I needed to avoid confrontations,

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Speaker 7: so I just basically ran away and like said, I

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Speaker 7: can't hear this right now.

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Speaker 1: Now, Joey, when you went back to your room, like

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Speaker 1: this would be a situation where one might slam their door,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you do now?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 7: I mean I tried to do the same. I retreated

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Speaker 7: to my room. But the difference is he was able

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Speaker 7: to just walk like right on the other side of

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Speaker 7: the curtain and like speak to me. So five minutes

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Speaker 6: Just painting an image in my mind, okay, because it's

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Speaker 6: less dignified when you frog crawl out under your curtain

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Speaker 6: to get yelled at.

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Speaker 7: It's better than that. But no, he did. He did

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Speaker 7: come around and try to try to talk to me

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Speaker 7: through the curtain and just said I'm here to talk

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Speaker 7: when you want to.

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Speaker 1: HM.

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Speaker 7: I really care for you and don't want it to

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I think you just heard Joey digesting the second and

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Speaker 7: So he said no need to respond, but I figured

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Speaker 6: Did you send it as an emoji or you actually

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Speaker 1: And that's it? Just thanks?

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Speaker 7: I accepted as apology. I mean, how long ago did

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Speaker 1: Now, were you to call him over and say, hey,

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Speaker 6: This roommate seems like a prince. He's like, I'm sorry

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Speaker 7: I don't think. I don't think that's part of his vocabulary.

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Speaker 6: Point is Joey should pick up after himself. This is

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Speaker 1: All right, So you think you're saying that Joey owes

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Speaker 6: If you live by yourself and you're a disgusting slob,

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Speaker 7: I think you're right.

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Speaker 6: I'm totally fine with you, like sleeping with your dirty

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Speaker 6: That's just not good.

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Speaker 7: His name is Pathan?

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Speaker 1: Is Paven within shouting distance right now?

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Speaker 7: I am tucked away in like the closet doing the recording.

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Speaker 6: I'm can you do it in a muffled yell from

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Speaker 7: Now, maybe open up the closet door and okay, let

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Speaker 7: it's gonna take me so work to weasel my way

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Speaker 1: Now while Joey struggles to get out of his closet studio,

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Speaker 2: What a building of narrative suspense.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been listening to this whole thing on

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Speaker 1: Here come the Parade of Savings, and we're back. We're back.

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Speaker 1: Let's just join Joey as he struggles to get out

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Speaker 7: Thousand degrees in there, so it feels good to get

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Speaker 7: Really that's curtained off, but yeah, here he is now.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, listen, I kind of wanted to apologize actually

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Speaker 5: I do know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I know that you sent me a very

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Speaker 5: I thank you for it.

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Speaker 1: That was really nice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, probably took a lot for you to do that,

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to it could have been handled better

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I fully said it, but I

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just nice to know that we're on

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Speaker 5: So yeah, you're doing a great job, man, Thank you,

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Speaker 7: Thanks for keeping things clean.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Joey, Joey, Joey.

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Speaker 6: That was magnificent.

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Speaker 1: That was so good. Really from the last time that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was really straightforward. And I was getting ready

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Speaker 5: It was great.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is the kind of skill set that

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Speaker 1: And a Gregor.

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Speaker 6: It's all you, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: See before we were both trying to pun Joey off

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Speaker 6: The whole time you were talking, all I could picture

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Speaker 1: Steve Marsh from the Marshes. From the Titular Marshes. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember? Do you remember? Steve likes his seagrims and

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Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: I can can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Has your headspace? Because I know you're you're a pretty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's been my biggest thing. So I love

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Speaker 5: There's this woman, Mika. She's in Paris. She got pissed

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hang on a second, back up. You were

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Speaker 5: I was stuck in Africa.

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Speaker 5: My friend was in a movie about people going to Gabone,

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Speaker 1: Back Holy Kat And this was pleasant.

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Speaker 5: No, it's horrible, like a waking nightmare kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: You're done with that, they're like no, no, no, now

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Speaker 5: Yeah, They're like, oh, you haven't had enough. You're not

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Speaker 5: I don't I can't do it. I can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: What what recollections do you have from those forty eight hours?

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Speaker 5: Well? They uh, they ask you, like to describe what

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Speaker 5: I was kind of quasi seeing this woman in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Why would someone have to Why would that be the

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Speaker 5: You need it. It's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So she had to go to this airport in France.

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Speaker 5: Her husband did. And I think Mika has found the

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Speaker 1: And that that that was the end of your friendship. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Oh? Man? So this was in this is like right

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Speaker 5: of years later or something. I was like, hey, you know,

449
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Speaker 5: I might be coming through town, and she's like, I

450
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Speaker 5: don't want to see you.

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Speaker 6: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Oh. And was that the last contact you had with her?

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Speaker 5: That was it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And I love Meka like Mika's. She has a great laugh. Man.

456
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Speaker 5: I used to love making Mika laugh. I guess it's

457
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Speaker 5: one of the few, kind of the few people in

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Speaker 5: my life that I've really hurt them.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to reach out just to say, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: see how she's doing in the midst of all this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, that might be nice. That would be nice.

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Speaker 5: Then maybe I could actually apologize to her, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Formally, because you never have.

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Speaker 5: Really, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Is she still in Paris? Yeah, because I think it's

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Speaker 1: right now. It's midnight in Paris. This calling her midnight

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Speaker 1: might make things worse. Yeah, so on behalf of Steve.

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Speaker 1: I ended up just sending Meka an email and she said, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: we can get on the telephone. So so that's what

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Speaker 1: we did. Oh you hear that European classy ring tone

471
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Speaker 1: that it's better than you, that ringtone better than me? Hello, Mika, hold.

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Speaker 4: On, let me put on my headphones on?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well I don't should I be talking?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think of it.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hey Steve here, Steve, Hey man, how are you?

477
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Speaker 5: I'm good man, I miss you. I was just thinking

478
00:24:04,409 --> 00:24:07,409
Speaker 5: I was talking to Jonathan and Christoph having to drop

479
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Speaker 5: everything and bail me out of my I have beg

480
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Speaker 5: got stupor in Africa and inviting that Condon nass guy

481
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Speaker 5: the photographer to like crash your place and wait your

482
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Speaker 5: mom like walked in on.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I'm really sorry to interrupt Mega, forgive me, but

484
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Speaker 1: wait what what what is we we talked about the

485
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Speaker 1: whole drug thing, but what what is the what is

486
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Speaker 1: the thing about the photographer?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Well, like Mika had gone on a family vacation

488
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Speaker 5: and uh, she let me stay in her crib okay,

489
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Speaker 5: And then I was out with a Condon ask pho

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Speaker 5: photographer and he didn't have a place to stay that night,

491
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Speaker 5: and I volunteered Mika's place without asking her permission.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so so on top of the whole other thing,

493
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Speaker 1: there was also this this guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Steve, I know, I mean Mika, that's the thing. Honestly, Like,

495
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry for all of it, and Christophe as well,

496
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Speaker 5: And I feel like I estranged myself from you by

497
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Speaker 5: acting like such an ugly American.

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Speaker 8: I mean no, I was definitely wanting to help you

499
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Speaker 8: out when you're in Africa. Act when you call me

500
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Speaker 8: a you were like, I'm desperate. I need to get

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Speaker 8: out of here. So I was totally like, okay, I

502
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Speaker 8: we're going to get you out. And Christoph is a

503
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Speaker 8: really great guy, and I was just like just tell

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Speaker 8: him thank you, you know, please, Like I don't know

505
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Speaker 8: if I can swear in this, but.

506
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Speaker 4: Like you got to like.

507
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Speaker 1: Something.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that you.

509
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Speaker 8: Better because right, I think what was really problematic was that, yeah,

510
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Speaker 8: you invited your friend without telling me.

511
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Speaker 4: So when you asked.

512
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Speaker 8: Me like a couple of years after it to come

513
00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:08,850
Speaker 8: with your sweetie, I was like I had to make

514
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Speaker 8: a voice like do I want to have another adventure

515
00:26:13,129 --> 00:26:18,169
Speaker 8: and put up with like, well, it was kind of

516
00:26:18,250 --> 00:26:20,810
Speaker 8: tricky when you came, and it was a little bit,

517
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Speaker 8: for lack of a better word, high.

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Speaker 5: Maintenance, right right, totally, Oh.

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Speaker 8: Steve, I'm I mean, I'm totally glad that you know

520
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Speaker 8: we're friends and I'm I'm really happy to talk to

521
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Speaker 8: you now. And I really appreciate you saying sorry and

522
00:26:41,770 --> 00:26:45,290
Speaker 8: I thank you for that, and Steve, you're you're good people.

523
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Speaker 5: So we're cool. Thanks me. It's great to hear your voice.

524
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Speaker 4: Man, what's up to you?

525
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Speaker 8: How are you?

526
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Speaker 5: I'm good man, Yeah, yeah, I'm totally good. How is

527
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Speaker 5: Paris like?

528
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Speaker 7: How is No Like?

529
00:27:03,209 --> 00:27:26,409
Speaker 4: So in about ten days.

530
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Speaker 1: And hey, guess what that's our show? Okay, yeah, well

531
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Speaker 1: but not quite yet. A couple more.

532
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Speaker 2: Things, Oh well, okay, So that was a lie.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to mention that oftentimes people ask what they

534
00:27:32,010 --> 00:27:34,330
Speaker 1: could do to help support the show, and you know what,

535
00:27:34,530 --> 00:27:37,650
Speaker 1: don't send us any money, don't send your jewelry. All

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Speaker 1: you have to do is try to listen on Spotify.

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00:27:41,649 --> 00:27:45,290
Speaker 1: You can listen anywhere you want, and we're appreciative of that,

538
00:27:45,449 --> 00:27:50,050
Speaker 1: but if you want to do a solid listen on Spotify,

539
00:27:50,609 --> 00:27:54,570
Speaker 1: because it won't hurt, it'll help. And what we've done

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Speaker 1: to further entice is we've assembled a playlist of some

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Speaker 1: of our favorite episodes as well as some of listener favorites.

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Speaker 1: This is called the Heavyweight Starter Kit. If you search

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Speaker 1: for that on Spotify you'll find it and it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of.

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Speaker 2: Fun and there link in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're into the whole clicking thing, And

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Speaker 1: another way that you guys can continue to support us

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Speaker 1: is by sending in your emails with your stories and uh,

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Speaker 1: just how you're doing at this at this time, we

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Speaker 1: really enjoy reading them, and among the emails that we

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Speaker 1: received this week was a song by a singer songwriter

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Speaker 1: named Connie she Oh.

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Speaker 9: I am Connie she I am in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn,

554
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Speaker 9: and I am currently in my bedroom, on my floor,

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Speaker 9: looking out my window at other buildings. So I am

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Speaker 9: having trouble processing my feelings about all this, and so

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Speaker 9: I wrote a song about it, and I thought I

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Speaker 9: would share it with you. Every passing day, I feel

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Speaker 9: a little worse about zoos. I was good for ay oh,

560
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Speaker 9: fill my schedule with classes, got dressed and my makeup

561
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Speaker 9: even chrow my eyelashes. But a slump is so close

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Speaker 9: it might be here already. I watched ten episodes of

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Speaker 9: Community last night, and my screenwriting class is a great

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Speaker 9: group of people. But I don't think I'm a writer.

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Speaker 9: I'm more of a sleeper in my dreams. I can float.

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Speaker 9: I don't feel any pressure. I am light as the weather.

567
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Speaker 9: Is it morning? Alrighty? Where is the sun? I lost

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Speaker 9: my marble somewhere in the bathroom, and I can feel

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Speaker 9: all my atoms are shaking with what can't be done.

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Speaker 9: It's hard to feel lucky without feeling guilty. A soundtrack

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Speaker 9: of sirens, hants and connects me. The future feels heavy

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Speaker 9: and I miss my mom. I've got no room to pace,

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Speaker 9: so my mind is what's right, but it's more of

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Speaker 9: a stumble with no distance I'm covering. I know now

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Speaker 9: is the time to create that. I'm hungry again. Is

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Speaker 9: it morning? Already?

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Speaker 1: Aware?

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Speaker 9: Is the sign? I lost my marble somewhere in the bathroom,

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Speaker 9: and I can feel all my atoms or shaking with

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Speaker 9: what can't be done. I know that something has ended

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Speaker 9: and something's begun, and I just wish someone could give

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Speaker 9: me more answers, or tell me just close your eyes

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Speaker 9: and then open when I

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Speaker 7: Get to one