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Speaker 1: along with two former players, two former safeties, Barry Church
Speaker 1: and Danny McCray. Danny McCray and I are still here
Speaker 1: in Dallas Fort Worth at our SWC Mortgage Virtual Studios.
Speaker 1: But somebody has decided that he's got to get out
Speaker 1: of town again. Um damn Corona because he just gonna
Speaker 1: go away. He gonna go and that is very Church. So,
Speaker 1: brother Church, where are you where you posted up at
Speaker 1: right now? I'll tell you what. Man with friends like y'all,
Speaker 1: who needs enemies? Man? No, I'm I'm in Tahoe right now.
Speaker 1: You know, the heat was a little bit much for
Speaker 1: your boy down there in Texas, so I had to
Speaker 1: escape for a little bit, get some swings on the
Speaker 1: golf course and get a little bit cooler weather. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always a professional. I got my equipment
Speaker 1: with me, and I'm ready to break this player's lounge down. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's been seventies. It's been seventy and eighty degrees in
Speaker 1: Texas all weeks, so I don't know about that excuse
Speaker 1: he got going on. It's a golf course in his
Speaker 1: backyard as well. So it's hey, like I said, man
Speaker 1: with friends like yall who these enteviees Man. Two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: we would have bought it. Okay, two weeks ago. This
Speaker 1: week it has been good. It has been raining, so
Speaker 1: it has it's totally different. Now. I will say this
Speaker 1: U Tahoe is a fantastic place. And I gotta remember
Speaker 1: there's a there's a breakfast and lunch spot near or
Speaker 1: how far are you for Incline Village? So ten minutes okay.
Speaker 1: It was a little, great little breakfast place over there,
Speaker 1: so if you like some pancakes and some hash browns,
Speaker 1: is a good little spot. There wasn't too far from
Speaker 1: where I stayed at down there, but that's that's a
Speaker 1: nice place to go get your little golf, little golf
Speaker 1: on there. You missed the players the American Century Classic
Speaker 1: a couple of months. You gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: take rod You gotta you gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: take Rodney Harrison's place, all right. So yeah, so we'll
Speaker 1: see about that. So you replace one safety with another safety,
Speaker 1: so so we will we'll check in on that. But okay,
Speaker 1: so so clearly, Church, you didn't see the Rocks video
Speaker 1: yesterday by COVID, did you. No, I did not see
Speaker 1: the Rocks video yesterday, but I do know about him
Speaker 1: and his family catching it. So yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: right right right. But Church out here, you know, flying
Speaker 1: and jet setting all the carts tech. All right, Now,
Speaker 1: look I got my mask. I got my mask. Well,
Speaker 1: the beauty of this if if you get COVID, you
Speaker 1: can still do the show. That's all out, all right,
Speaker 1: We've got one full hour to go right here on
Speaker 1: the players Lives. Let's dive right into the big news
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, and that's cutting haha, Clinton Dick.
Speaker 1: Something we talked about on this show last week that
Speaker 1: they could do this. So the Cowboys end up cutting
Speaker 1: the safety they signed five months ago. Who once played
Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. And here's what I
Speaker 1: like about this move. Go back to the old line
Speaker 1: that Bob Sugarhead and the movie Jerry mcguireway says, it's
Speaker 1: not show friends, is show business. And I get Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy a lot of credit to say, hey, look, haha,
Speaker 1: thank you for what you did in the past, but
Speaker 1: right now you're not fitting what Mike Nolan is doing here.
Speaker 1: So to me, that's a positive because many times, and
Speaker 1: you guys have seen this because you played in this
Speaker 1: league for different teams. When the team signed someone, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to admit him. Mistake was made. If the guy's
Speaker 1: not showing up a camp, he didn't show up a camp,
Speaker 1: he didn't perform it, hes gun. So ha's done, Danny,
Speaker 1: your thoughts. My thoughts is, man, I mean, how how
Speaker 1: bad did he play? Because didn't he have guaranteed money
Speaker 1: in there? So they paid them for what I guess
Speaker 1: a few days of practice? Was it like one point
Speaker 1: five million? He must have been making some some some
Speaker 1: serious bad plays out there, or Darren Thompson is really
Speaker 1: really good at playing safety. So I'm not sure really
Speaker 1: what's going on. But Like I said, we've seen this
Speaker 1: in the past with Church out playing out playing of
Speaker 1: Brodney Pool. So just because you signed a guy doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that he's going to be the guy to step
Speaker 1: in and feel that starting role. Once you step on
Speaker 1: the field, everybody's equal. So this just proves that that
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who whoever goes out there and makes
Speaker 1: those plays against those interceptions as a guy who will
Speaker 1: be on the field. So you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: high Clint Dix. I hope he lands in a good spot,
Speaker 1: but I think they made the right to since he
Speaker 1: wasn't getting much playing time. Yeah this one, yeah, this
Speaker 1: one right here is a little confusing for your boy. Um.
Speaker 1: Like Danny said, they had paid him a little bit
Speaker 1: of money. I think he got some guaranteed money in
Speaker 1: there as well when they brought him in a free agency,
Speaker 1: and I thought for at least they would have given
Speaker 1: them maybe a game or two to you know, try
Speaker 1: to get you know, something under his belt and maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he's make a gamer. Maybe he's not a practice player,
Speaker 1: but he's a gamer. So I thought they would at
Speaker 1: least give him one or two games. But I guess
Speaker 1: they felt that, you know, he just wasn't showing at
Speaker 1: that camp. You know, he must have been you know,
Speaker 1: missing assignments or just wasn't covering as well as they
Speaker 1: had thought. And they thought Darian Thompson was was the
Speaker 1: answer there well as of right now is the answer?
Speaker 1: Um for me, I don't believe Darian Thompson is the answer.
Speaker 1: I think he's more of the you know, situational player,
Speaker 1: more of a spot safety. But um, we'll see. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong with that. Maybe he is the answer for
Speaker 1: this Cowboys or Dallas Cowboys team. But it was a
Speaker 1: very surprising move when they really or when they cut
Speaker 1: how hot dicks. But he just must must have not
Speaker 1: been playing well during these he's few training camp practices
Speaker 1: all I will I'm willing to bet you just because
Speaker 1: like being in a situation that seem to happen in
Speaker 1: the locker room. That not so much that he wasn't
Speaker 1: a practice player, but once he's seen that his rest
Speaker 1: was getting cut, a little frustration probably set in and
Speaker 1: that probably affected his play. And then you start seeing
Speaker 1: guys kind of pounding around the locker room. Like I said,
Speaker 1: they had that picture out where you see him just
Speaker 1: standing behind the whole crowd looking a little sad away
Speaker 1: from the team, and I think that kind of kind
Speaker 1: of weighed on it, and in the perception from the
Speaker 1: coaches that you know, he really probably didn't want to
Speaker 1: be there anymore. He wasn't gonna be the starter. It
Speaker 1: has to be something, because you don't just pay a
Speaker 1: guy at one point five and let him go before
Speaker 1: the season four you even gets a shot and you
Speaker 1: still owe him all that bread. Well, it's actually two
Speaker 1: point two five million that was guaranteed to Haha Clinton Dick,
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys would still owe him a million and
Speaker 1: guaranteed salary. But if he signed somewhere else in twenty twenties,
Speaker 1: it's nine hundred and ten thousand dollars. Michael Gelk in
Speaker 1: the Morning News thing, it's because of offset language and
Speaker 1: that any collary that Clinton Dix earns elsewhere twenty twenty
Speaker 1: will be deducted from the amount of the Dallas os.
Speaker 1: But here's another point that Gelkin made here, and you
Speaker 1: guys understand this because you all played special teams heavily
Speaker 1: in your careers. Ha, Clinton Dix only played one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty one snaps on special teams the past four years. Combined,
Speaker 1: so you simply couldn't. He's not gonna be a you know,
Speaker 1: one starter. He was getting nothing on special teams, so
Speaker 1: you start looking at this thing based on he's not
Speaker 1: playing special teams. He's not the guaranteed starter they didn't have.
Speaker 1: They had to me, I think they made the right
Speaker 1: courageous move to cut the guy because so many times
Speaker 1: you see dudes who get to hang on a roster
Speaker 1: spot and they can't really live up and do the job.
Speaker 1: So I give the Cowboys credit forgiven Mike Nolan what
Speaker 1: he needs for his defense. Sure, yeah, I give him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I give him. I give him a credit. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. It was the same type of situation. A
Speaker 1: little bit different, but kind of the same when with
Speaker 1: Gerald Cincmball was here. He was a great safety that
Speaker 1: was here before. You know, me and Danny we played
Speaker 1: with him for the first couple of years. But when
Speaker 1: they released him, Um, he you know, he had a
Speaker 1: guarantee money with him, but he was a guy that
Speaker 1: you know, didn't play special teams. I feel like he
Speaker 1: only you know, did on kickoff. But um, if you're
Speaker 1: not that bona fide starter and you're not that guy,
Speaker 1: that's you know, every every down, safety you have to
Speaker 1: sprinkle in some special teams, some kickoff, some punt, something
Speaker 1: like that to increase your value. And if you're not
Speaker 1: doing that, then the team, like we see here in
Speaker 1: how how Clinton Dixon's an example, Um, they're willing to
Speaker 1: let go of you because I'm like I said before,
Speaker 1: it's it's what you can do. What more can you do?
Speaker 1: How much value can you bring to that team? And
Speaker 1: obviously he didn't bring that much, so they felt like
Speaker 1: they needed to release him. Maybe they got somebody else's
Speaker 1: the eyes with somebody else. I don't know, something's going on.
Speaker 1: You think you think there's more to this story than
Speaker 1: just just his play not being well. Yeah, like like
Speaker 1: his attitude or something had to be off like something.
Speaker 1: It's just you pay him that much money and yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, he doesn't fit the scheme. You don't even
Speaker 1: make it the week one with all the circumstances that
Speaker 1: we have going on with COVID, you just like risk
Speaker 1: the depth of your safety room just like that, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we didn't pick anybody up instantly, so you
Speaker 1: have to have somebody else in mind. You can't just
Speaker 1: say I'm going into the into the season with what
Speaker 1: I have now, So it got to be something in
Speaker 1: the books, and I guess we'll just have to wait
Speaker 1: and see what it is, because this is confusing, just because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you paid the man money upfront, you
Speaker 1: owe the money, and you don't give him a shot
Speaker 1: in this type of season where there is no preseason
Speaker 1: and you need depth and COVID is out there and
Speaker 1: you just say, hey, we'll go short. So something's going on.
Speaker 1: We'll see. And I ask you a question real quick,
Speaker 1: new it Yeah, yeah, So do you think do you
Speaker 1: think anything the rookie from last year, I believe his
Speaker 1: name was Cedric will not Cedric Wilson, the safety his
Speaker 1: name is is absent in my mind right now. But
Speaker 1: do you think he had anything to do um with
Speaker 1: Clinton ho hot dis being being released so soon? Maybe
Speaker 1: the play in the in these preseason, on our preseason,
Speaker 1: these training and practices, maybe he's shown that he can
Speaker 1: be that valuable depth player. Here's what I think. We
Speaker 1: gotta also remember can They didn't pay haha, Clinton Dicks
Speaker 1: any money and here's the guy who's been bouncing around,
Speaker 1: so you were already trying to Donovan Wilson so you're
Speaker 1: already hit from A and M Donovan Wilson. So you're
Speaker 1: already sitting around here, you know, saying, okay, let's take
Speaker 1: a flyer on this dude. In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: This was George Iloka Park two. And remember they paid
Speaker 1: him a little, a little cash less than what they
Speaker 1: paid Dicks, but they brought him last year he was
Speaker 1: running third team mad at Claris Hill. Start telegraphers class
Speaker 1: is putting that on Twitter. How hey man, this dude
Speaker 1: gave the answer because he run a third team and
Speaker 1: they cut him. So to me, they've almost done the
Speaker 1: same thing one more time. Like we're going we're going
Speaker 1: over here a shop at Dollar General. Here is on clearance.
Speaker 1: It's haha, Clinton, dis here's two point two five meal.
Speaker 1: So you kind of got what you paid for, right.
Speaker 1: You didn't sit up here and pay big you know.
Speaker 1: This was like you paid big dollars to a guy
Speaker 1: and he didn't really do it. And Mike Nolan's having
Speaker 1: practice and look at it. You're saying, nah, man, this
Speaker 1: dude's not it. So so they go ahead and they
Speaker 1: cut the guy and we can sit up here saying, well, man,
Speaker 1: you know you you paid him two point two five mill. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's gone, But remember they paid that kicker Kai Fourbath.
Speaker 1: He got a little bit, a little bit of cash.
Speaker 1: It was guaranteed, but they still cut him and then
Speaker 1: paid that paid Greg Zurlin is seven and a half
Speaker 1: million bucks. So you know, I look at this and
Speaker 1: I just say, this just wasn't the fit. They rolled
Speaker 1: the dice. They never ever sink money into safety. You
Speaker 1: guys know that, they never do it. While you left,
Speaker 1: it went on a jack, so they ain't trying to
Speaker 1: pay anybody at the safety spot since Roy Williams left town.
Speaker 1: So to me, just looking at High Clintics, they took
Speaker 1: a shot. He wasn't the guy. I give him credit
Speaker 1: for saying, all right, he's not the guy. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and move on. So Darren Thompson and Daryl Warley,
Speaker 1: you're in house candidates to go ahead and move into
Speaker 1: this slot for now. We'll see what happens when the
Speaker 1: cuts go down on Sunday. But of course we now
Speaker 1: need to bring in to talk about that dude. Earl. Wait,
Speaker 1: all time, I knew it, knew you know, what would
Speaker 1: have been nice and like it would have saved us
Speaker 1: from this confusion. Man, I sent out on my counsel
Speaker 1: last week and I was like, man, I'm gonna finally
Speaker 1: get the CD dudes play and see what they got
Speaker 1: out there on the fielding. And I turned on the
Speaker 1: TV and I saw absolutely bit. I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna get some info. You saw the car and take
Speaker 1: I take knew it. I said, knew it. Were like,
Speaker 1: what are we seeing? You know, because they just kept
Speaker 1: showing the sideline, you know, I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: show something. I was like, hey, man, maybe maybe I'll
Speaker 1: see what's going on with Hi Hi. Maybe he's running
Speaker 1: with the twols, he's not making plays. But you know what,
Speaker 1: didn't see much, so that's why we're confused. Hey, look
Speaker 1: that thing was. Yeah, it was so confusing, you know,
Speaker 1: let me go watch some hockey and hockey on them.
Speaker 1: I watched the play little. I just turned office. I
Speaker 1: taked it. I was like, I'm good, I'm good. This
Speaker 1: is this is not you know, you didn't never it
Speaker 1: basically turned it to the Michael Irvan podcast, Michael and
Speaker 1: Nate telling you that was exactly what it was. It
Speaker 1: was Michael and n right right storytime with Michael and Nate.
Speaker 1: He remember when Jimmy did this, and oh you right,
Speaker 1: you right, big fellow, you right. Jimmy weren't playing around
Speaker 1: on that with Big fella. So I was like, man,
Speaker 1: let me go knwy but knew why, so tell me this.
Speaker 1: If they weren't gonna show none of the scrimmage, why
Speaker 1: couldn't they wear their numbers? So we end up looking
Speaker 1: at no football and dudes on the sideline with no
Speaker 1: jerseys off. Why why even get the jerseys with no numbers?
Speaker 1: Not gonna see it. We're not seeing anything anyways. So
Speaker 1: this is already built into the telecast, so every in
Speaker 1: the contract we're gonna have this. And so this was
Speaker 1: done before you know. This is a part of the
Speaker 1: deal they got with Channel eleven and Telemundo. So that's
Speaker 1: the deal. And then MacArthur comes and says, hey, nah,
Speaker 1: let's not do this, and they're like, okay, it's a
Speaker 1: good idea. UM, I'll set it is smart, but put
Speaker 1: your jersey like we do. At least do something like
Speaker 1: you're not showing us no plays. We know who the
Speaker 1: guys are for the most part. Yeah, it was so
Speaker 1: unpleasing to the eye to see like that whole thing
Speaker 1: and then blank jerseys, and you know, and back and
Speaker 1: forth with Michael or it was just unpleasing to the eye.
Speaker 1: Like I understand the point of not showing the players.
Speaker 1: You don't want to give up anything because that's your advantage.
Speaker 1: You hadn't seen McCarthy's plays in a long time. But goodness, like,
Speaker 1: at least make it, you know, esthetically pleasing to me.
Speaker 1: Let me see the nineteen and in the twenty one
Speaker 1: and the four on the jersey. They're not showing us
Speaker 1: any place. Clearly they didn't care about trying to make
Speaker 1: any of us feel good about what we were watching,
Speaker 1: all of us, you know, at least the folks I know,
Speaker 1: just decided, you know, I got something else to watch,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what UM has something some playoff
Speaker 1: basketball on, right, So it was playoff faster offs, playoff hockey.
Speaker 1: So I was just checking that out. And it also
Speaker 1: you know what else they aired that night, UM they
Speaker 1: aired the Black Panther. They aired The Black Panther with
Speaker 1: with no commercial interrup options. And so I ended up
Speaker 1: watching that because because Bozeman had passed away, and and
Speaker 1: i'd uh, I've always been a big fan of his
Speaker 1: and and so so I ended up watching that. I
Speaker 1: was kind of the last thing I watched that night
Speaker 1: when I turned off the scrimmage I was watching. I
Speaker 1: was watching Black Panther, and I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: I recorded it and checked it out. So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I didn't. Uh. We weren't supposed to learn anything
Speaker 1: from the scrimmage. I guess they did. They had converence
Speaker 1: the goal we turned it off. I mean, you heard
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. Sean mcvagh talked about how he was checking
Speaker 1: it out like I had him, and I tried to
Speaker 1: check it. Nothing to check out, So so give give
Speaker 1: the Cowboys credit. You know, Sean McVay heard it was
Speaker 1: on TV. He tried to find a way to get
Speaker 1: the footage and saw that Mike McCarthy gave him nothing.
Speaker 1: So no advantage for Sean McVay and the Rams who
Speaker 1: host the Dallas Cowboys on September thirteenth on the on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football to to start the season. But let's
Speaker 1: happen again? What happened again? Jerry? Listen? Do you yes?
Speaker 1: I say this is not something that they could be
Speaker 1: moving forward doing this that one. Just don't put it
Speaker 1: on TV and just run. He made some quick money.
Speaker 1: He made some quick money, Jerry Jerry Jerry said that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was a one time, one time pass,
Speaker 1: one night only, one night only. McCarthy on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's squeeze in a break here when we come back. Uh.
Speaker 1: The latest on Earl Thomas and also an interesting tweet
Speaker 1: got out there. Jerry Jones responded to it today about
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and the Cowboys, So let's dive into that. Next.
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Speaker 1: of new Scots law Tom Cowboys Reporter, joined by Barry
Speaker 1: Church and Danny Craig, former Dallas Cowboys safeties. All right,
Speaker 1: so we hit the show we're talking about haha, Clin
Speaker 1: Dix and we're all agreement that, all right, something wasn't
Speaker 1: right there. They go ahead and they moved on from him.
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. So Darren Thompson and Daryl Worley
Speaker 1: are the guys right now that we're looking at in
Speaker 1: terms of Okay, they're gonna get opportunity to be those
Speaker 1: first guys out there getting the reps. Earl Thomas is
Speaker 1: now back in the discussion. He's still a free agent
Speaker 1: after the Ravens let him go on Tuesday at eight thirties.
Speaker 1: At eight thirty on Tuesdays, Jerry Jones speaks to one
Speaker 1: oh five three the Fan, and this is what he
Speaker 1: had to say Tuesday about Earl Thomas and the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: In conversations, well, discussions directly with Earl, I have not
Speaker 1: had any, and we have not had any. But I
Speaker 1: have not had any either discussions internally we have discussions.
Speaker 1: That's that. Certainly, he's an outstanding football player and we're
Speaker 1: sitting here at personnel time and we're looking for ways
Speaker 1: to get better, and he would be one of several
Speaker 1: that we would discuss during this particular time as we
Speaker 1: finalized this roster. And you know, it would be a
Speaker 1: misleading thing to say that we didn't haven't discussed him,
Speaker 1: and be a misleading thing to say that we have.
Speaker 1: But Jerry, if you haven't talked to him yet, shouldn't
Speaker 1: we take that as a strong sign that have I
Speaker 1: Do you all want me to tell you which way
Speaker 1: I'm going when I lead my office? Or do you
Speaker 1: want me to tell you what I'm doing over the
Speaker 1: next business decision? There's competition out of here. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of nuances, and so I know you understand why
Speaker 1: we wouldn't own something as since him as a competitive
Speaker 1: roster decision. Why we wouldn't discuss thousands of thousands of
Speaker 1: people that aren't necessarily fans. Some of them are competition,
Speaker 1: all right. So that's Jerry on Tuesday. He was just
Speaker 1: asked about it here within the hour one or five
Speaker 1: through the fan because he also talked to ten AM
Speaker 1: on Fridays. I used to host that show when I
Speaker 1: was a host over the fan and he still is
Speaker 1: not giving us anything, not giving us anything. It was
Speaker 1: a tweet report that they were going to meet with
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas will the weekend, and he kind of basically
Speaker 1: let that lay low. So I'm gonna start with you
Speaker 1: on this Barry Church, Okay from row Boys. Do the
Speaker 1: Cowboys go get Earl Thomas? Do they go get him?
Speaker 1: In your opinion, No, that's no. I think for my opinion,
Speaker 1: that's a strong no. Um. I feel like if I'm
Speaker 1: reading between the lines, and I know I played for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for seven years, So if I'm reading between
Speaker 1: the lines at that statement Jerry made, I'm saying that
Speaker 1: he wants Earl Thomas here. He wants that big name
Speaker 1: safety I mean university to Texas Dallas Cowboys fan growing up.
Speaker 1: He wants that guy in his locker room and on
Speaker 1: his football team. But I believe the problem is he's
Speaker 1: the only one that wants him on this football team.
Speaker 1: I don't think the rest of the coaching staff. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I don't think the rest of
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, and I don't think the players really
Speaker 1: want him on this team. But you know, he's the
Speaker 1: boss and he makes the final decision. So I think
Speaker 1: from it, if I'm reading between these lines, he really
Speaker 1: wants him on his team. I don't think it'll be
Speaker 1: a good fit, and I don't think they get him
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. But I believe Jerry
Speaker 1: does want him on his squad. Yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: does want him on the squad. And I think this
Speaker 1: is kind of that that Johnny Manziel situation, kind of
Speaker 1: like Church alluded to, where one person in the meeting
Speaker 1: wants to pick this guy and everybody else is like,
Speaker 1: we don't really need him, and I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think we need him either. And what will be the
Speaker 1: price tag on Earl Thomas for us to pick him up.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna play on one of those Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: deals or or we're gonna have to pay him top
Speaker 1: top night safety money. I just don't think it makes
Speaker 1: sense for us right now, which is why the haha
Speaker 1: Clin Dix thing is is more confusing. But you know,
Speaker 1: I trust Will McClay and Stephen and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that they have their eye on someone or else, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have made the decision that they made. And in
Speaker 1: saying that, unfortunately, you can enough for count Jerry Jones out.
Speaker 1: He might go get Earl Thomas and just override everybody,
Speaker 1: which is why we might have seen McCarthy, you know,
Speaker 1: blow off that question last week, because he wouldn't in
Speaker 1: those meetings because Jerry Jones kind of already know how
Speaker 1: how he feels, but he knows that he writes to checks,
Speaker 1: so he can make that decision show. I wouldn't be surprised,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's gonna happen real quickly, real quick.
Speaker 1: To your point, Denny, I do think it's gonna cost
Speaker 1: them a little bit of bread, just because Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: he's going through that grievance right now with the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens over that ten million dollars that they took problems.
Speaker 1: So I do think it's gonna cost a little bit
Speaker 1: of money, and that's probably one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: he won't be on this team. But that's just my
Speaker 1: thoughts here and there. I didn't want to pay that
Speaker 1: he's gonna give. You're gonna give Earl a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of bread your quarterback. Goodness, they trying him right now.
Speaker 1: They're definitely trying him. Okay, So so let me then
Speaker 1: throw this out this way. Let me asked this way.
Speaker 1: They go, you know, because you know that on a contract,
Speaker 1: week one is fully guaranteed, so they wait till after
Speaker 1: the Rams game. So if you can wait till after
Speaker 1: the Rams game and you signed Earl Thomas and you
Speaker 1: basically can have a week to week contract with him,
Speaker 1: do you think Jerry could sell Mike McCarthy and Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan that way because then they have protection and saying, hey, man,
Speaker 1: we'll give him a little bit of coin, but he's
Speaker 1: got to earn it each week and if he's not
Speaker 1: that guy, then we could go ahead and get out
Speaker 1: of him. Dan, Well, first, I think you gotta sell
Speaker 1: Earl on that, because I don't I think that just
Speaker 1: from hearing you know, how he thinks and how he
Speaker 1: acts right now sounds a little Hollywood, so getting him
Speaker 1: to accept the deals where he's playing week week by
Speaker 1: week in like heavy and centim base. I don't see
Speaker 1: him accepting that. UM. But if but if he would,
Speaker 1: then I think that that would be something that Mike
Speaker 1: Nole to Mike McCarthy would would accept. But I don't
Speaker 1: see Earl accepting that. I'm I'm to disagree a little
Speaker 1: bit with this. UM. I don't think it'll be Earls
Speaker 1: um not, you know, not wanting to take this deal.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be Mike McCarthy and the coaching staff saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think we should give him a
Speaker 1: kind of a week to week and centive type deal
Speaker 1: because the whole offseason, all we've heard from McCarthy just
Speaker 1: talking about chemistry and how this team has to gail
Speaker 1: together and how they have to be a kind of
Speaker 1: a one for all type cliche type of things we've
Speaker 1: been hearing from him left in right. So I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm bringing in Earl. I think it would be
Speaker 1: a mess up the chemistry and I don't think Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy wants that at all. So I don't see him
Speaker 1: having a one week to week deal. I don't even
Speaker 1: think Earl would take that deal, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: So to me, I don't see him on this team.
Speaker 1: But I've been wrong in the past before, So so
Speaker 1: are you saying we currently have our starting safeties right now? No,
Speaker 1: that to me, they should have kept Heath. But that's long,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's way down the road. But I think
Speaker 1: they gotta find somebody or take one of those corners
Speaker 1: like knew he was saying that worldly or that Robinson
Speaker 1: kid we got in the fourth round, and they might
Speaker 1: have to move him to safety if this Darien Thompson
Speaker 1: experiment does not go as planned, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it will. So I'm asking because you're saying, mess up
Speaker 1: the chemistry, we're assuming that they're gonna have to bring
Speaker 1: somebody in to possibly be the starting safety if we
Speaker 1: don't currently have our two starting guys right now. So
Speaker 1: it's really just Earl's personality that that you're saying that
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Nolan probably don't want to deal with as
Speaker 1: far as yeah, like up the chemistry in the locker room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, I think he's a little bit too
Speaker 1: Hollywood right now in the comments that he's saying it's
Speaker 1: just it's just rubbing me the wrong way. I don't
Speaker 1: know sure about the coaching staff, but I just don't
Speaker 1: think he fits well with this team. Okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: taking this as Mike McCarthy's silence on this and Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan's silence on this tell me what I need to know.
Speaker 1: Because all Mike Nolan has to do is go pick
Speaker 1: up the phone and call Baltimore because he coached it,
Speaker 1: so you know, he knows Eric da Costa. He has
Speaker 1: people on that organization he can go ahead and call.
Speaker 1: And then, of course, you know Mike McCarthy has has
Speaker 1: people he knows as well. And then the general manager
Speaker 1: of Seattle is a guy that McCarthy worked with in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. So these guys have connections to people who
Speaker 1: dealt with Earl Thomas in the last two organizations. And
Speaker 1: I am of this mindset if those two, if anybody
Speaker 1: in those places say, hey man, yeah, I go ahead,
Speaker 1: just didn't work out, but we think it's okay, then
Speaker 1: they would have pulled the trigger. The fact that they
Speaker 1: have it, to meself, that's it says a whole lot.
Speaker 1: The silence to me on it, or the lack of
Speaker 1: talk is a lot of sound in my opinion about
Speaker 1: how the coaching staff feels about Earl Thomas that you
Speaker 1: know what, man, we're good. We don't need this dude
Speaker 1: with everything that comes with it. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he, uh, he makes that fit here. Um,
Speaker 1: you know he It's just it's it's it's different because
Speaker 1: I don't see this locker room having a very strong,
Speaker 1: super strong veteran voice in there right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the only veteran they have really is in
Speaker 1: there is Sean lead has been there for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, they lost the Wittons and all that. So
Speaker 1: I think if you got if you bring in a
Speaker 1: guy like Earl, you got to have that already kind
Speaker 1: of established strong veteran leadership, especially on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, and in that secondary they're extremely young.
Speaker 1: So I just don't see anybody kind of telling Earl like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the way we do it around here. And
Speaker 1: I think his you know, I think he would just
Speaker 1: kind of take over that room slowly but surely, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be a good thing. All right,
Speaker 1: let me go run down the cuts for any Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans who may have missed it. So obviously haw Clinton
Speaker 1: Dick's gone yesterday. Wide receiver Devon Smith is cut. Remember
Speaker 1: last year up in Washington, Devon Smith had that nice
Speaker 1: big game. UM center Adam Redman has been cut. Tackle
Speaker 1: Mitch Hyatt, tackle White Miller's cup, tackle Pace Murphy. Murphy
Speaker 1: is gone. UM rookie tight end Charlie tell a payout
Speaker 1: from Portland State is out, and then quarterback Clayton Thorson
Speaker 1: is gone. There. Amari Cooper has been missing practices. He's
Speaker 1: been working with chords. The Cowboys, like all teams right now,
Speaker 1: are describing their NFL injuries as hockey injuries, meaning there's
Speaker 1: a you know, they'll tell you there's a lower body injury,
Speaker 1: or he's court. You know, they're not giving you anything here.
Speaker 1: So should we be worried about Amari Cooper Week one
Speaker 1: against the Rams? Absolutely? Go ahead, okay, Danny, go ahead?
Speaker 1: All right? All right? Dat no, no, let me let listen, listen.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I'm so adamant about it,
Speaker 1: because mistakenly I picked this guy early in my fantasy
Speaker 1: football draft. Don't I don't know, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I was thinking. I got him, and
Speaker 1: I got Leonard Fournette right so, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I found out this guy hadn't been a
Speaker 1: practicing for the whole almost let me see the first
Speaker 1: the last five practices. And we couldn't see this because
Speaker 1: we weren't able to see the practice on TV. So
Speaker 1: we had no idea that Mark Cooper was dealing with
Speaker 1: any type of injuries. And now we found out a
Speaker 1: soft tissue. We found out that he was playing injured
Speaker 1: last year as well. I think he had like a
Speaker 1: hell injury back when he was in Oakland. It started
Speaker 1: to become a recurring theme here with with old coops.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little worried about him looking like the
Speaker 1: twenty million dollar man in week one. I hope and
Speaker 1: I have trust and Brett Brown, you know, and Jim
Speaker 1: and those guys in the training room that they could
Speaker 1: get them ready. And that's why they're kind of taking
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas and just have him working
Speaker 1: on the cars. But I'm worried for him to be
Speaker 1: ready for week one. But we drafted a top receiver
Speaker 1: and then we have Michael Gallup, so I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about our performance. I'm just kind of worried about him
Speaker 1: being able to be available for that game and be
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, because we know he's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: He looks totally different. You like you, like you like
Speaker 1: how I'm looking right now, Danny, like that. Like listen,
Speaker 1: my rundebut went off, like I can't see you man, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Like that championship trophy right here, baby, right here. You
Speaker 1: know you know what I changed my I changed my
Speaker 1: fantasy football name for this season. It is defending Champion
Speaker 1: every week and then who you playing this week? I
Speaker 1: got defending Champions. So that's my team name this year
Speaker 1: is defending Champions. So there we go. Um, yes, that
Speaker 1: is why I'm targeting Michael Gallop, who I had last year,
Speaker 1: by the way, in fantasy draft. So okay, so you're
Speaker 1: worried about Cooper. Now here's the question, because you guys
Speaker 1: have brought you guys brought this up earlier in the summertime,
Speaker 1: before actually before we hit that summer break that you guys,
Speaker 1: when you guys dealt with that lockout, that there was
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of soft tissue injuries and you guys
Speaker 1: expected this stuff. And we've already seen across the league.
Speaker 1: Issues with this Kenyan Drake running back at Arizona's dealing
Speaker 1: with a foot hamstring problem right now from Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: up in Philadelphia, and they've got him working off to
Speaker 1: the side. So if you're the Cowboys, do you play
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper September thirteen on a new term that
Speaker 1: you've never been at in Sofi Stadium in Inglewood, California.
Speaker 1: Mccrete what you feel about that? It depends because you know,
Speaker 1: since they're not really telling us much about what it is.
Speaker 1: If he has a hamstring injury or growing injury, I
Speaker 1: do not play him because I don't want him to
Speaker 1: miss the next five weeks, just risking him for a
Speaker 1: week one. So it just depends on how serious the
Speaker 1: injury is and where it's actually located. He has a
Speaker 1: twisted ankle or something he rolled it, I think he's fine,
Speaker 1: he'll be ready for Week one. But it was anything
Speaker 1: with a soft tissue or hamstring growing something that can
Speaker 1: linger throughout the entire season, I wouldn't risk playing him.
Speaker 1: I would let him get fully healthy and then get
Speaker 1: back out there on the field because we've seen it
Speaker 1: happen with guys like Sean Lee where you're just eager
Speaker 1: to get back out there, and you come back out
Speaker 1: there too early, and then you hurt yourself after you
Speaker 1: just missed two weeks, and then now you have to
Speaker 1: miss another four weeks and you know, before you notice
Speaker 1: half the season. So don't rush them if it's one
Speaker 1: of those injuries. Just let them get healthy and get
Speaker 1: out there and be a hunte million dollar man once
Speaker 1: it's time. Yeah, you know, I don't think they should
Speaker 1: to rush him back to me if it's still kind
Speaker 1: of bother them even a little bit. I think they
Speaker 1: set them out there. Just set them out week one.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going against my Rams defense that you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't entirely bad last year, but it wasn't the
Speaker 1: greatest defense of all times. So I think they can
Speaker 1: afford to set him out. They got enough firepower in
Speaker 1: the offense, I think to defeat the Rams. We'll also
Speaker 1: get to see if he does sit down, We'll get
Speaker 1: to see you know, ceedee Lamb out there. We'll get
Speaker 1: to see Michael Gallup as that that number one receiver
Speaker 1: if he if he sits out, So I think that
Speaker 1: it will just put a little bit more added pressure
Speaker 1: on the CD Lambs of the World, if Lake Jarwin's
Speaker 1: and the Michael Gallups. But if it's a lingering issue, then,
Speaker 1: like mcrai said, I definitely would not put him out
Speaker 1: there because we've seen what happens in the past before.
Speaker 1: What guys think their hamstrings are okay, and they go
Speaker 1: out there and try to you know, go all out,
Speaker 1: and they pop it again and then next thing you know,
Speaker 1: they're out for the whole season, or they're out for
Speaker 1: six or seven weeks. So if it's a lingering issue,
Speaker 1: don't put him out there. Let your other two studs
Speaker 1: that receiver take his place, and we'll see him later
Speaker 1: on in the season. Look, I've been high on Michael Gallup.
Speaker 1: You guys know how I feel about him. I think
Speaker 1: he's a great player in the Cowboys. And you know
Speaker 1: they've said this to the media, Hey, we feel like
Speaker 1: we've got three number one receivers. They consider Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: a number one guy. And I don't think people are
Speaker 1: talking enough about Gallup being in his third season. And
Speaker 1: you guys, being former players, know that third year is
Speaker 1: when you really have is when it kind of really
Speaker 1: you turn it on your rookie years A blur. Second year,
Speaker 1: you kind of have familiar but by year three, you're
Speaker 1: able to just play. You're not thinking as much as
Speaker 1: just playing, especially if it's that same system and it's
Speaker 1: three years of rapport with with Gallup and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: And I just think Michael's gonna have a really nice
Speaker 1: season because he's gonna see a lot of one on
Speaker 1: one coverage. And I just think this kid is gonna
Speaker 1: be be a player this year. And people will say, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we forgot about this guy, but I clearly haven't forgot
Speaker 1: about it because I think he's a heck of a
Speaker 1: young talent. Yeah, I believe like a heck of a
Speaker 1: young cop. I don't know. You're good, Danny, You're good
Speaker 1: like that. This year, you think he's gonna have a better,
Speaker 1: better year statistically than thing? Cool? You know what, I
Speaker 1: feel a little hostility. This goes back in the last
Speaker 1: year back I told you Coop was hurt. Last year,
Speaker 1: I told you both he was hurt, and you alreadn't
Speaker 1: want to believe me. And then you come and you
Speaker 1: find out that hey man, Coop was Coop was really hurt.
Speaker 1: He didn't say anything. So um, your question, Um, it's
Speaker 1: interesting to interesting question. I would say that they'll be
Speaker 1: close because last year, if you look at their numbers
Speaker 1: both last year they were close and both guys missed
Speaker 1: some time here. So it's gonna be interesting, man, because
Speaker 1: if they're both healthy, then Gallup's gonna be the guy
Speaker 1: that see single coverage. And so Gallup is the guy
Speaker 1: seeing single coverage if I'm doc, I'm going to I'm
Speaker 1: going to thirteen with the ball. Yeah, he read about that,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I think, you know, Gallup reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of of a Juju Smith Schuster. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he can, you know, if he had that
Speaker 1: able to, you know, excel unbelievably. But he needs that
Speaker 1: other guy out there to kind of take the coverage
Speaker 1: away from him so he can excel. So he reminds
Speaker 1: me of Juju Smith Schuster. But I think he will
Speaker 1: have a solid year this year. All right, So Danny,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that your your fantasy team is already having
Speaker 1: issues before we get to week one here. Um, just
Speaker 1: bad man, just bad, gonna be Leonard Fournetz, gonna be
Speaker 1: a backup of Mary Cooper's hurt. I got Drew Brees
Speaker 1: from a QB. So I'm gonna be alright in that
Speaker 1: in that regard, but I'm worried about my receiver and
Speaker 1: my running back, well Drew Brees. I had him last year,
Speaker 1: he got hurt. So he's forty plus years old. So
Speaker 1: just hope he doesn't take any hits here we go.
Speaker 1: Maybe long as somebody's getting Michael Thomas the ball, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Let me live, let me let me live. You better,
Speaker 1: you better hope they don't have to put out what's that? Uh? Um?
Speaker 1: Who's that back hill? You talk about? The running bat man?
Speaker 1: I hope they don't put him out there, old Tim Tebow,
Speaker 1: Old Tim tebow Man. You better hope they bring in
Speaker 1: Winston before they run out Taysom Hill, because otherwise be
Speaker 1: thoas that's gonna be be in trouble here. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: big fan, big big fan of of of of Thomas.
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Speaker 1: show without me taking some sideswipe at somebody who used
Speaker 1: to coach here for the Capital. So Chris Beam, I
Speaker 1: need you to queue up this. This sound from head
Speaker 1: coach Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy was talking about his relationship
Speaker 1: with offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, and what McCarthy said struck
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, sure, never heard that from Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett when he was around here. So go ahead and
Speaker 1: play the cut. I came here on my interview. You know,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore was part of my initial thought process to
Speaker 1: put the staff in place, So I mean this was
Speaker 1: a a day one decision, so from a big picture
Speaker 1: of putting together you know, not only the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: but the offensive staff. All right. So so McCarthy is,
Speaker 1: you know, he's letting he's letting Kellen Moore do his thing.
Speaker 1: And he even talked about I don't want to step
Speaker 1: on telling Moore's toes. He's empowering killing Moore. Boy, I
Speaker 1: feel real good about this head coach. Is what happens
Speaker 1: to bring any Super Bowl winning head coach fellas, now
Speaker 1: start drinking and start drinking to kool ai on coach McCarthy,
Speaker 1: start drinking it. So you're saying that Jason Garrett was
Speaker 1: in Killing Moore's way last year, Um, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: that was sad and numerous times said numerous times. We
Speaker 1: all know how we went him at Callahan. We all
Speaker 1: know how when with him at Callahan. So I know
Speaker 1: when they said it when any game with killing Moore,
Speaker 1: you know what, saying his offense didn't seem creative and
Speaker 1: he made some bad calls. That's when Jason Garrett was
Speaker 1: calling the place the other games when the guy looked
Speaker 1: creative and was bringing everything from Boys and State, that's
Speaker 1: when Killing Moore was calling things on his own and
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was out of his way. That has to
Speaker 1: be what was going on, because Kellen Moore couldn't have
Speaker 1: been the guy called on the players when we were
Speaker 1: down twenty one points and couldn't score a touchdown in
Speaker 1: those big games that would have got us to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Couldn't have been him, Hey, man, couldn't have been him.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just happy to hear that a guy
Speaker 1: who's won a Super Bowl is saying this about the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and his confidence in a young man. So
Speaker 1: this is why, by the way, gentlemen, when you could
Speaker 1: pick up your Dallas Morning newspaper as they unfailed their
Speaker 1: their NFL special where I gave my predictions for each
Speaker 1: division winner, super Bowl winner, and a Cowboy prediction, I've
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys at I think it was ten and six.
Speaker 1: I got the Cowboys in ten and six winning the division. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: tenant six. I was gonna go eleven, but then Cooper's
Speaker 1: been hurt, the two tackles have had issues, Shot Lee's
Speaker 1: been out, got questions in the safety spot. So I
Speaker 1: didn't want to go there. But I gave him ten
Speaker 1: wins and the Cowboys winning the NFC East because I
Speaker 1: believe in the head coaches. The head coaches gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and make up those two games that the previous
Speaker 1: head coach couldn't get to last year. So bam, there
Speaker 1: we got two extra wins. That's ten right there. You
Speaker 1: always want to do the head guy or the head coach,
Speaker 1: even as a player, to say, you know, we have
Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world if you take this
Speaker 1: offense or take this you know this team to the
Speaker 1: next level. So it had definitely has great influence on
Speaker 1: what Keller Moore assets going to do and say out there,
Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna be like, hey, the team has
Speaker 1: my back, so I'm gonna go out there and give
Speaker 1: him my off. But we'll see how long that lasts.
Speaker 1: And they started out, you know, one in three or
Speaker 1: something like that. We want We're gonna see how long
Speaker 1: it takes. Hey, look, we talked about we talked about
Speaker 1: that last year, and now we said that you think
Speaker 1: McCarthy go get fired because of Keller Moore? You crazy? Okay?
Speaker 1: I got response. All right, I've got a response to that,
Speaker 1: and I'll have that response for you after this break.
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Speaker 1: All right, mccraig, here's my retort. So let's just say,
Speaker 1: following what you said that, all right, maybe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are one in three and Kellen Moore is not exactly
Speaker 1: calling the plays right. Well, Mike McCarthy has experience in
Speaker 1: this League and Mike McCarthy's won the Super Bowl calling
Speaker 1: play so I have all the confidence in the world
Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy has to go ahead and take that
Speaker 1: place sheet, Mike McCarthy can go ahead and dial it up. Baby,
Speaker 1: good times are here. I'm not worried. I have my photographer,
Speaker 1: Noah Bullet tell me. He's like, man, you're just drinking
Speaker 1: his cool aid on. Coach McCarthy, go you just drink?
Speaker 1: I said, yes, I am just go ahead and boor
Speaker 1: it all on me. Man, Yes, crazy that new come.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me we were praising. So you were
Speaker 1: praising McCarthy forgive me killing more. All the confidence in
Speaker 1: the world and all the praise, and the dude go
Speaker 1: out there of a sixteen game season and lose three
Speaker 1: games his first his second year calling plays, And you're
Speaker 1: telling me you got confidence and you're feeling is McCarthy
Speaker 1: is gonna snatch the playbook from him and start calling
Speaker 1: plays himself. I just said, based on what you said,
Speaker 1: you asked the question. You asked the question. So if
Speaker 1: there happens to be a problem, I have all the
Speaker 1: confidence world that the head coach will fix it. No. Look,
Speaker 1: the last time I was this sold on the Cowboys coach. Well,
Speaker 1: Bill Parcel's got here. Ah, man, you drinking the cool
Speaker 1: as like man, the real coach up in here. And
Speaker 1: guess what happened. Parcels was successful here. So you guys
Speaker 1: should go ahead and listen to me on this. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna tell you, and I've been. I've been. I
Speaker 1: was here before y'all, I was here after y'all. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you right now, I got We're saying McCarthy,
Speaker 1: the little cool a you just you drinking it too fast.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Nui over there drinking and all
Speaker 1: the kool aid to pop anything anything you can put them.
Speaker 1: But so we're saying, if if McCarthy has like the
Speaker 1: run that Parcels has here, would that be considered successful?
Speaker 1: Um hm oh no, no, no, no, listen. Here's how
Speaker 1: I have to because I go back and remember now,
Speaker 1: Parcels got here after Campbell had three five and eleven seasons,
Speaker 1: So Parcels had to come here and they really had
Speaker 1: to re help rebuild this whole program. And what are
Speaker 1: the things that Parcels had done. It's like, look, we
Speaker 1: need to establish a blueprint of who we want to
Speaker 1: be and how we want to run this program, what
Speaker 1: kind of players we want. I mean they went to
Speaker 1: just switching the defenses from four to three the first
Speaker 1: year two a three to four. McCarthy's coming into a
Speaker 1: situation where there is talent here. Parcels had to go
Speaker 1: acquired talent. And they also went through a whole quarterback
Speaker 1: issue where when Parcels took the job, Jerry said, hey,
Speaker 1: look I got these two young quarterback I want you
Speaker 1: to go ahead, work with a Quincy Carter and and
Speaker 1: Chad Hutchinson. You know you don't have that problem. Mark
Speaker 1: McCarthy walked in here, it had a Pro Bowl quarterback
Speaker 1: ready to go and Dak prescott um. So it's different situations.
Speaker 1: I think the test for McCarthy truly is getting this
Speaker 1: team to a super Bowl during his run. That's it,
Speaker 1: you know, the four he needs to get this team
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. That that is not win it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, get it there. That to me's the
Speaker 1: bar from Mike McCarthy, which what I expected, what every
Speaker 1: Cowboy fan should expect from me. He has to, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, get them to this at least to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, because I mean when when we measure coaches
Speaker 1: who have coached for the Dallas Cowboys, we don't measure
Speaker 1: them by you know, division championships or even playoff appearances.
Speaker 1: We measure them by what we measure them by winning
Speaker 1: Super Bowls or getting to the big Dance. So if
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm Mike McCarthy, I mean that's I gotta
Speaker 1: get there or else he's gonna be, you know, another
Speaker 1: No disrespect because I feel like Jason Garrett was a
Speaker 1: great coach, but he's gonna be another Jason gar or
Speaker 1: Parcels who were able to or who are able to
Speaker 1: just win. Yes, they were able to win the divisional
Speaker 1: games and and they weren't able to take it to
Speaker 1: the big game. He has to do that or else
Speaker 1: he's going to be considered another j G. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the difference between what they've done? How cans in great?
Speaker 1: How can you say Jason's great when he presided over
Speaker 1: the feudalist decade of Cowboy playoff wins. Ever, that was
Speaker 1: his thing. I mean, nobody had over run and produced
Speaker 1: less than Jason Garrett. No, we're saying that's all on Garrett. Though,
Speaker 1: we're saying that's all on great you know what ten years,
Speaker 1: how many how many assistance did he go through? How
Speaker 1: many cistans did he go through? How many quarterbacks did
Speaker 1: you have? Was good playing? How many good players did
Speaker 1: you have? It around? Man? So what did Parsel do
Speaker 1: and his in his tenure here with the part exactly?
Speaker 1: Oh you guys, you guys about to make me come
Speaker 1: through the screen with this blasphem quity. Carter, then Church,
Speaker 1: you're always moving the gold post. Knew it. You're moving
Speaker 1: the gold post for man. I'm telling I'm out here
Speaker 1: telling truths, gentleman. Bias the truth. It's a it's a failure.
Speaker 1: It's a failure if he does what Parcels did right,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't make the super that's what he asked you.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't make it to the super Bowl, is
Speaker 1: he considered to be something like Bill Parcels was because
Speaker 1: you talked about Bill Parcels or run here like he
Speaker 1: was just the greatest thing ever? Yeah, he's knowing when
Speaker 1: Romo fumbled the Romo fumbled the field gold that's what
Speaker 1: that was his accomplishment Like that was I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is crazy, this is crazy. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: you keep making this comparison to to Parcels. So I'm like, hello,
Speaker 1: so McCarthy. Then then when you bring it up, he said,
Speaker 1: oh it's different, it's different. This different, now it's different. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me have the floor, jam Can I have the
Speaker 1: floor right now? Okay, go ahead. Since Jimmy Johnson, since
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson left here, these are the cowboy coaches. I
Speaker 1: want you to to tell me who is the most had
Speaker 1: had the best run here? So they had Chan, they
Speaker 1: went to Chan Gaily, then they went to Dave Campo,
Speaker 1: then they went to um Parcels. Then you had Uca
Speaker 1: Way Wade, Phillip Steve had Jason Garrett. Of those five,
Speaker 1: who had the best run? Who is the best coach
Speaker 1: of us those five? Your opinion? Jason Garrett, I only
Speaker 1: played for one, so I'm going when I got fired half, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm minus. I think I subtract two of those. I
Speaker 1: think it's either one or two of those seasons. I
Speaker 1: will not count the season where Tony Romo goes down
Speaker 1: and we have Matt Castle as our quarterback and we
Speaker 1: go four and too. I will not count that. It's
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa whoa. Not count Philadelphia and at their
Speaker 1: quarterback go down but Carson Wentz, who was putting up
Speaker 1: MVP numbers, and they went ahead and with the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: lost their left tackle and Jason Peters that year lost
Speaker 1: their starting UH the third down running back, and darrenk
Speaker 1: lost when when Tony Romo went When Tony Romo went down,
Speaker 1: he wasn't up for the MVP. This is early in
Speaker 1: the season. You second later like they had a whole season.
Speaker 1: We had a whole season under our built and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, somebody came in at the ending
Speaker 1: and got us through the playoffs. He went down at
Speaker 1: the against the Eagles at to be the first time
Speaker 1: we played him. I think that was like week three.
Speaker 1: We played the rest of the season without him besides
Speaker 1: one game and he came back in and got hurt again.
Speaker 1: And I think another year he got hurt and we
Speaker 1: had Kidna in there. No no offense to Kidna, but
Speaker 1: this was we didn't have our starting guys in there.
Speaker 1: This this is your full team and your coaching and
Speaker 1: you're trying to hey man, next guy up, and all
Speaker 1: that we all know, next guy up doesn't pertain the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. Nick Folk that that was that was
Speaker 1: an anomaly what Nick Foles did, because we've seen what
Speaker 1: happened when he got to Jacksonville, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: see what happened when against the Chicago all right, So
Speaker 1: so we're not counting, we're not counting those that's not right.
Speaker 1: That ain't right. All I all I know is they
Speaker 1: lost a bunch of guys off that Eagles team and
Speaker 1: they went ahead and won the Super Bowl. But you
Speaker 1: all want to discount that. You just want to discount
Speaker 1: that means that Carson Wentz had already got them ready.
Speaker 1: They was already they was already good and going. They was.
Speaker 1: He was going for the MVP already. Tony Romo got
Speaker 1: hurt in a win against the Eagles, I want to say,
Speaker 1: and week got three. It was week two, Week two,
Speaker 1: so we played the rest of the season with Matt
Speaker 1: Castle as our quarterback except came back. Yeah, Brandon weedon,
Speaker 1: you you're gonna count that against jag Come on, man,
Speaker 1: come on. So okay, So then, but but then you
Speaker 1: want to count what happened with Dak Prescott. And I
Speaker 1: give him all the credit in the world there, because
Speaker 1: they were actually trying to get Nick Foles to come
Speaker 1: and Nick Foles had said no, but he got Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: I give him the credit. He got Dak Prescott ready
Speaker 1: to go and ended up winning, winning the division, saved
Speaker 1: his job, the whole whole thing there. So I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, now, come on, if you're gonna get got
Speaker 1: to kick the blame too. Take the blame from back
Speaker 1: Castle versus back Preston to do person. I'm the dude
Speaker 1: was a rookie and Tony Rummos could have came back
Speaker 1: in at any time like he was been healthy and
Speaker 1: this to come back and play this ain't the same
Speaker 1: his mat Castle all you this is this is the
Speaker 1: true show. Friends. Then you got showing your friendship for Jason.
Speaker 1: I get that, I get that, I get your loyalty,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about business. So I would swear you
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy penpus based on based on our show
Speaker 1: talking about friendship. I think I'll talk to him. Have
Speaker 1: you took into two sisters? Shit, this is not This
Speaker 1: is not Mike McCarthy from twenty ten who had you know?
Speaker 1: This ain't this? I mean, this ain't him. We're gonna
Speaker 1: see the gonna see. In fact, we're gonna trying to hide,
Speaker 1: trying to hide his plays. Good. Look at that count.
Speaker 1: You look at that Green Bay team and all the guys.
Speaker 1: They ended up losing all their way as a wild
Speaker 1: car to the Super Bowl, and goss guys. During that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Gang Donald Driver got hurt, Woodson got hurt,
Speaker 1: and he still won a championship. But that's fine because
Speaker 1: it ended. No, No, he didn't get hurt. No, he
Speaker 1: didn't get what was the MVP that year or two?
Speaker 1: But okay, I don't think he was the MVP that
Speaker 1: he was the next year when they were that he
Speaker 1: was Week two. This man's gonna count the season against
Speaker 1: the cup and then the very next year that coach
Speaker 1: took us to the It is crazy. This is crazy. Huh. Look,
Speaker 1: you know, man, not I at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I already given you my ten wins, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: make the East here, okay, they're gonna win the East,
Speaker 1: sou I'm standing by that. H Yes, I'm drinking the
Speaker 1: kool a. I'm gonna get me some blue asberry and
Speaker 1: gonna make it here in the house, my McCarthy kool aid,
Speaker 1: and it would be just fine. You know what. Listen,
Speaker 1: I hope we win this good this see this Cowboys
Speaker 1: candle Okabra lighted this year. I'm gonna light it this year,
Speaker 1: and you know, Mike McCarthy's gonna answer the prayers. You're
Speaker 1: gonna deliver miracle for Cowboy fans because the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna actually look good. They'll be well coached on Sundays.
Speaker 1: And I consider out here watching the Special Teams look
Speaker 1: like a firehouse drill where everybody's losing. You see some
Speaker 1: progress up in here, and that's fine. So light of MNA.
Speaker 1: Light the candle for Matt Big Mac and I'm buying it,
Speaker 1: and you need to buy it. Two out there Cowboy
Speaker 1: Nations to go ahead and listen to me the real
Speaker 1: coach in town. First one, since parcels will be all good.
Speaker 1: Oh Gar hired Keith Jason Garret hired Keith o quinn
Speaker 1: and coach the Special teams as well, because that's that's
Speaker 1: what I got, you I got. He hired Paul Alexander
Speaker 1: to remember remember that Paul Alexander him. You forgot about that?
Speaker 1: This he goes? What's wrong with him? At Jason gear Man,
Speaker 1: I think we were happening toam Man. When did y'all
Speaker 1: go to school together? He did something team, something happened,
Speaker 1: something he denied an interview request, or something something Actually
Speaker 1: that that's not true at all. In fact, Jason and I,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, Jason and I we did a
Speaker 1: very good story on his love of Bruce Springsteen. We
Speaker 1: sat down and he took me through it because I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm I'm not a big Bruce Springsteen person, but
Speaker 1: I appreciate the work. And you know, Jason died into man.
Speaker 1: He was really good. And I'm telling you, man, I
Speaker 1: think Jason would be an excellent head coach in college
Speaker 1: where you go ahead and recruit the players and you
Speaker 1: left the coaches kind of do your thing like your
Speaker 1: boy coach. Oh lsu, I think I'm not listening to this.
Speaker 1: How many momentutes don't have to listen to this, such
Speaker 1: a backhanded comment talking about, yeah, he would be a
Speaker 1: good college coach, but you know, he just can't motivate
Speaker 1: the men in the NFL. I'm done with that. I'm
Speaker 1: done with this. I can't believe listen, he has a
Speaker 1: special place of dislike for DZ Brian and Jason Geart
Speaker 1: and and I'm gonna start figuring out the rest of
Speaker 1: the names on this list. But it's those two games
Speaker 1: right there. Those always get negative responses when they when
Speaker 1: they're brought up to NEWI scrugs, what I said, What
Speaker 1: I say about that, What I say about that recently?
Speaker 1: Other Man, he didn't need to come back on this team.
Speaker 1: You said, first of all, you said, he not, he
Speaker 1: not playing this year. He needs to stop releasing his videos.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, all this us. You know, come on, man,
Speaker 1: let them, let them man. And he fosted another video yesterday.
Speaker 1: By the way, New he just just in case you
Speaker 1: thought he was running from running from people wa seeing
Speaker 1: him play San Francisco, he was running around San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Watch they got so many, so many injuries at wide
Speaker 1: receiver in San franc I'm saying, this has a chance
Speaker 1: to end up in San franc catching whatever balls that
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garrow a little throw, because maybe the three or
Speaker 1: four him that he throw per game. But he got
Speaker 1: a chance. I don't know. I don't know. I ain't buying,
Speaker 1: but but they I mean, that's a whole different subject. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be surprised. Man dance and get him a
Speaker 1: shot in to play in the league again. All the
Speaker 1: spent back. Okay, So so so let me ask this
Speaker 1: Danny on this whole San fran dance to San Francisco, Um,
Speaker 1: do you know what happened to the rad what happened
Speaker 1: with the Ravens? Do we know? Now? They said, you know,
Speaker 1: they weren't They weren't ready. That's how they weren't ready
Speaker 1: to pull the trap like like you said he'd be,
Speaker 1: he'd be one of those guys to get picked picked
Speaker 1: up after a game once. So the salary is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. I ain't drinking that cool that yeah,
Speaker 1: but I am drinking the garret cool. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna do big things in New York. Ain't gonna do
Speaker 1: big changes. Church Church, Yo, Church has has knew he
Speaker 1: said what the bet is because he owed like it's
Speaker 1: been three weeks he's supposed to make this bet. He's
Speaker 1: gonna try to wait till the last minute and then
Speaker 1: do a bet that's in his favor and yeah, and
Speaker 1: try to get you know, we're not doing that. Put
Speaker 1: a deadline. We gotta put a deadline on it because
Speaker 1: because just say a notice to all those folks who
Speaker 1: who enjoy the players. Last we starting on Tuesday. We're
Speaker 1: going every day Monday through Friday. So so we're gonna
Speaker 1: take Monday Labor Day off, so starting on Tuesdays, on Tuesday, Wednday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: we got the players lands. All right, we're go move
Speaker 1: it to two thirty pm Central time. So I've got
Speaker 1: days to come up with this before this bet you
Speaker 1: want to make. And I can't remember what he weeks ago,
Speaker 1: m I mean Thursday the deadline, but all but that's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean whatever I have to do to put it
Speaker 1: down from a card thing, because I'm sure, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: putting it down from a carth either way. So you
Speaker 1: were mind me of what it is that needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Because I got all the faith, Big Matt gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and get this done. For it. You're gonna be like, man,
Speaker 1: do what you right? No? No, no, no, that's good.
Speaker 1: No listen. See that's why we can't wait till the
Speaker 1: last minute. Because I said the Cowboys gonna win. They're
Speaker 1: going to eleven and five this year, so I already
Speaker 1: believe that we're gonna do well. So you're not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make a bet that goes against that.
Speaker 1: So then what am I betting here? I don't understand?
Speaker 1: What what what? What do you want to see? See this?
Speaker 1: This is this is what happens. This is this is
Speaker 1: what happens when you're supposed to make a bet three
Speaker 1: months ago and then you post the phone and even
Speaker 1: get what we're even talking about? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: going on here? I forgot because it's the pettiness of you.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the LSU and you that's so petty.
Speaker 1: So what is it you want from me? Man? What
Speaker 1: you want? I want another meal? Bro? I want another meal?
Speaker 1: You still owe me one? So we got I owe you?
Speaker 1: I want three? That's what I want? Oh wait, hold
Speaker 1: so he ain't never come through with the meal yet? No,
Speaker 1: you know Covid gottas, Man, Covid gottas. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I paid up the first one. I paid up the
Speaker 1: first one, so Corona then hit so I couldn't pay
Speaker 1: the second. So what is the best That's the other
Speaker 1: thing I've confused about. Man, what's the news I gave?
Speaker 1: I gave you. I'm giving you a chance to bet
Speaker 1: on whatever you want to bet on. That I that
Speaker 1: I'm not already like in favor of to win something.
Speaker 1: At first it was Daz. I said, Danz was gonna
Speaker 1: gonna he was gonna somebody's gonna take him to try
Speaker 1: him out, and then somebody's gonna put him on the team.
Speaker 1: I believe that I beat you on the on the
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott not getting a full time contract. I mean,
Speaker 1: what else? What else do you want to take a
Speaker 1: chance on. I'm giving I'm giving you the option. But
Speaker 1: you can't say that the Cowboys gonna be successful because
Speaker 1: I already said they're going to eleven and five. Okay,
Speaker 1: then I don't know what else you want because you
Speaker 1: know I'm about these positive bets. Why why don't you
Speaker 1: say no? How about this? How about how about this?
Speaker 1: Because earlier in the podcast you said that Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: that's an interesting question because Michael Gallop could possibly have
Speaker 1: better numbers than a Mark Cooper. Are you willing to
Speaker 1: wager that I wouldn't do it? I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: This is Gallup versus Cooper. I'm just giving you options.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you options, Nui, that's all because you sound
Speaker 1: like you don't if you if you if you don't
Speaker 1: want to do it, that's fine, I just take my
Speaker 1: two sisters and I'd be two and over for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life. Just think about it, Nuie, for
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's it. You got told Thursday. Think
Speaker 1: about it for a little bit. You know, if there's
Speaker 1: something you need to to make you feel good with you,
Speaker 1: if you need this, some type of bet for us
Speaker 1: to keep this entertaining, for you to do this podcast,
Speaker 1: and fine, I'm I'm good with that you want to do.
Speaker 1: If you want to do something on the desk to
Speaker 1: San Francisco dream you just came up with, that's fine,
Speaker 1: Gallup Cooper, That's fine. I'm good with it, man, I'm
Speaker 1: good with it. I'm all right, I'm listening. I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to convince you to do
Speaker 1: to do a deal verse. Okay, I'll finish two and
Speaker 1: though I'm the champ, thank you, Okay, okay, all right, Look,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're winning this. Since you're not winning your
Speaker 1: fancy football all times, we should getting something that you
Speaker 1: could feel good about. It ain't even start it yet.
Speaker 1: We didn't even get to to the to the Trade
Speaker 1: Digs video I wanted to get to. So well, we'll
Speaker 1: do that. Uh, we'll have to get that done on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But the rookie corner from Alabama roll Tide uh is
Speaker 1: starting to to you know, get it a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I feel good about that. And that's something that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need. You give you give Mike Nolan one
Speaker 1: good corner and they're gonna be okay. Um, especially this
Speaker 1: pass rush comes around the way we want to. So
Speaker 1: remember everybody, starting on Tuesdays two thirty pm. Write it
Speaker 1: down church, putting your phone Tuesday to thirty. Okay, we
Speaker 1: have a show Soday, Friday, players Lass, we have shows.
Speaker 1: I'll be able to get my golf in the morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll entertain more of of of Danny and Danny's
Speaker 1: uh dreams of bets and so we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: But write it down ten to six Cowboys when the
Speaker 1: division's go come out the Alice Morning News. Way have
Speaker 1: our little selections and picks. So I'm there, I'm in there,
Speaker 1: confident of it and drinks. I'll have some blue kool
Speaker 1: Aid next time we do the show, as I do
Speaker 1: the shot from the kool aid, and I will light
Speaker 1: this Cowboys Mike McCarthy candle and keep it little Sundays
Speaker 1: as you will. Hope you right now? Ye yes you
Speaker 1: of course, our jobs are a lot better when it
Speaker 1: when they win. You go. You know what y'all gonna say? Man,
Speaker 1: you should have fired Jason three years ago. Should have
Speaker 1: done a little man. Yes, we're gonna end the show
Speaker 1: just going that he's hanging out Tahoe. I'm knew he scraped.
Speaker 1: He's Danny mccraig from our virtual SBCWUM Mortgage Virtual Studios.
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