WEBVTT - Natasha Lyonne

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, thanks for pulling up a chair. Today on

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<v Speaker 1>Table for two, we are at the Sunset Tower Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>on a beautiful day rolling. We're about to sit with

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<v Speaker 1>five time Emmy, two time Golden Globe nominee, a producer,

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<v Speaker 1>an actor, a writer, a director. Twenty twenty three, Time

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<v Speaker 1>magazine named her one of the one hundred most influential people.

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<v Speaker 2>You do it New York Minute style.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe do like the zucchini chips the patient.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, look at this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>This is a professional.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm also a caesar and a pizza and

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<v Speaker 4>some sliders.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>She's hungry, a nineties indie it girl, a redhead forever,

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<v Speaker 1>a current TV and movie star season two of Poker Face.

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<v Speaker 1>Here here we come, the awesome Natasha Leone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I only eat free food in this town.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's how. That's a trick to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone thinks it's oz empic, but actually if you just

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<v Speaker 4>only eat the free food that's placed directly in front

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<v Speaker 4>of you, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, very thick.

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<v Speaker 1>Pull up a chair, grab yourself a glass of rose,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's go. I'm Bruce Bosi and this is my

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<v Speaker 1>podcast table for two. Okay, well, first of all, just

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<v Speaker 1>a formal welcome to table for two. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me today. This Natasha Leon, if you pulled up a.

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<v Speaker 2>Chair and you were like, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute?

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<v Speaker 2>Or Sam Jackson please clarify the top.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you love Sumangers like that's the icon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know, trying to be a living embodiment of

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<v Speaker 4>an amalgamation of a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say that Sue is definitely on board.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you are, Okay, let's just talk about your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it's exploding yet again and again again,

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<v Speaker 1>but like this is a massive time we are sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here because poker Face Season two is coming your way.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone does anyone?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should definitely give me a name, a

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<v Speaker 2>nickname right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but can rhyme with your last name?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? BOSSI, yeah so it can.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be Yeah, Rosie, maybe you just call me Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know now, but now I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be ras. I don't want to be How do

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<v Speaker 2>we get Why would you call me? That's not my name?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is not my name? You know what? Our name

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<v Speaker 2>is a construct?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, gosh eventually called me Tazzi and it will just

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<v Speaker 4>happen naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, yeah, Rose, still not my nighbors still have my name.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you try it. Then I will call you, yeah, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna be like, just definitely not my name

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<v Speaker 2>name always, that's the nice thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you started a bit I didn't fully land

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<v Speaker 6>where you started calling me not my name.

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<v Speaker 2>And ten years later and this is now a super enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 4>What does birs keep calling me Rosa?

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<v Speaker 3>Could you tell him to stop? Zucker? Yeah, you grew

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<v Speaker 3>up in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in New York where Upper East Side

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four.

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<v Speaker 3>I was born in Jackson.

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<v Speaker 4>Hide, wait, hold on a minute, because this is my

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<v Speaker 4>question actually for today. And that was like, you see,

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<v Speaker 4>I know about me, but I don't know enough about you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you some point we.

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<v Speaker 4>Lose interest in ourself to get interested in our fellows.

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<v Speaker 2>So excuse the officer.

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<v Speaker 3>So people want to know about you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm just saying I also have an upper reside,

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<v Speaker 6>so I should sound more like I shouldn't like when

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<v Speaker 6>I if I have to code switch, you know, get

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<v Speaker 6>into a doorman building that a scholarship kid you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like my like Hampton's like the East Hampton's voice.

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<v Speaker 2>When I want to visit parents and they ask me

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<v Speaker 2>what parents do.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell them the real truth, the whole truth,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not to put the truth your honors.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just say something like, oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know my mother is like a licensing consultant, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Dad is just you know, like he's doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of business stuff right now at the moment. Hi, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already see Ario Libisman. Uh yeah, and it's good.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that is rol No.

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<v Speaker 4>Ros is trying to keep up with the main girls

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<v Speaker 4>because she doesn't understand and so she's like, I understand

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<v Speaker 4>her code, no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Will this help? And they say no, it definitely will not.

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<v Speaker 4>The hardest evidence I have of that it is Laid

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<v Speaker 4>Trinity a master work. Okay, is Chris Christofferson, I'm playing

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<v Speaker 4>a blind scientist. I know that because my hair is

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<v Speaker 4>dyed blonde and it's very straight and I'm wearing sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I know I'm ready for the role.

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<v Speaker 4>So when my step I was signed to smoke a

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<v Speaker 4>cigarette with Chris Christofferson and he says, you have a

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<v Speaker 4>real Janis vibe, I realized that it wasn't quite working

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<v Speaker 4>all those years when I would try it, and it

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<v Speaker 4>took me about you know, fifteen years later, I sort

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<v Speaker 4>of discovered that actually I wasn't getting hired to be

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<v Speaker 4>her ro. I was actually getting hired to I think,

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<v Speaker 4>be something.

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<v Speaker 2>Close to my self.

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<v Speaker 4>And boy was that a painful discovery that it was

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<v Speaker 4>home hole long. Really yeah, I think first it was,

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<v Speaker 4>but then I didn't realize that nobody realized. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure this happens a lot in this town, is

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<v Speaker 4>that when people are actually completely themselves, then they're just like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's endless supply, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's an I think being spread for seven years

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It really like.

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<v Speaker 4>Taught me that S and L you know, trick of

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<v Speaker 4>every night they go up and dress and like things

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<v Speaker 4>that to them are legendary like that they're still talking about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, are literally just talked like that they've worked

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<v Speaker 4>so hard on with all their using all their you

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<v Speaker 4>like life flood and everything talked so that certainly you

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<v Speaker 4>developed this sense of like an endless resource.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not so.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like once you give somebody the sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, tap them and say like you're in boss,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, then there's no shortage.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like I could make a movie about this

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<v Speaker 2>glass of water right now, the right directed.

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<v Speaker 4>Started produce packaging, international sales, whatever the fuck waterfall, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fucking figure out the fucking AI contract that wraps around it,

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<v Speaker 4>just in case future derivatives, you know, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, uh like I could do that on this

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<v Speaker 2>class of water.

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<v Speaker 4>You see, just by virtue of it, it's all execution, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it would just be like in the style of what

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<v Speaker 4>and then that would be a new invention, and it

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<v Speaker 4>would be like a moment to moment series of invention

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<v Speaker 4>that are like directly reflective of sort of where you're at.

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<v Speaker 2>In the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think any of those like, you know, acting great,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like a Gene Hackman, you know, conversation or something

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<v Speaker 4>right kind of a performance or night movies or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that really comes from, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to bring where.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at, sort of like a come as you are approached.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I'm always fascinating with someone's New York because.

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<v Speaker 1>We were very we have your city kid, city kid

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<v Speaker 1>borner raised in city. Well, parents moved from Jackson Heights

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<v Speaker 1>to New York to Upper east Side seventy.

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<v Speaker 3>First in part.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so for real Upper east Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for real Upper eas Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was I'm always like on you know, seventy

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<v Speaker 4>eighths between York and the river, seventy second between New.

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<v Speaker 2>York and the River.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not it's you know, it's not just don't lie. No, No,

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<v Speaker 4>that's like saying like that are Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know, they're they're off shoot. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like living on like eighty six and third. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not like the Upper east Side, the pe Mobile Wheel Estate.

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<v Speaker 4>We know is you're talking between not even its really

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<v Speaker 4>just it's only and only parts of Madison.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest. It's really just Fifth Park, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, Okay, there's a whole different piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I'm just saying seventy first and part that's adult.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of a building.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazingly one of the like few rental buildings

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<v Speaker 1>owned by a family on Park, and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It has since recently been sold to Harry Macrolle and

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<v Speaker 3>made a condo thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But because those buildings are very snoothy, like you come

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<v Speaker 1>from my restaurant.

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<v Speaker 3>Business, the whole thing. So we lived in a great apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was it was like growing up on the

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<v Speaker 3>real Upper east Side.

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<v Speaker 2>But sort of like your parents did.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad ran the palm restaurant, his great his grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>started a po.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like we were restaurant. My mother just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't just she raised us and she was how you

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<v Speaker 3>know that there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just two, but she had my sister and she

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Flushing, she grew up in White.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's a queen's cross.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a queen. My dad's a Flushing boy. And what yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>why where like.

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<v Speaker 1>Multi generation queen's And then we moved it on up

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<v Speaker 1>like the Jeffersons to the east Side.

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<v Speaker 2>And then but what that Italian Italian?

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<v Speaker 3>Well Italian half southern half Northern.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, so that's where the lightness comes there is

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<v Speaker 1>in northern.

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<v Speaker 2>And may to just say, your gorgeous birds. We know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know, we see it. You know what you're having

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<v Speaker 2>to make excuses?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, you know it's hard up though, right was movies

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<v Speaker 3>like what resonated with that movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I was thirteen fifty ninth Streets between third

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<v Speaker 1>and left.

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<v Speaker 3>They had the fifty eighth Street. There was a small

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<v Speaker 3>theater across. She was a porno theater.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In midtown go there like like a little kid, child

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<v Speaker 4>like child acting auditions but like minimated and fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>I lose my drunk dad somewhere in the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he'd go off and then I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>come out and you have to like, you know, ravel rouser,

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<v Speaker 4>you're working downtown right, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you just like where the fuck am I? Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is serious? It's taxi driver.

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<v Speaker 3>What did that instill in you?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Because growing up like that, like kids don't get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I didn't. I mean you were working as

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, so you were.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, well, the thing about working as a kid is

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<v Speaker 4>that you're definitely like now, I'm just like at the

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<v Speaker 4>point where I'm like, oh my god, nobody knows anything,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they're all younger than you know, Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I look, I'm not a day over one, as you

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<v Speaker 4>can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I'm lucky all of this pizza. Did we

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<v Speaker 2>get fries? And should we?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? But okay I don't those?

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<v Speaker 2>And did you want your COPSID? Certain.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I don't want to call at all this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we definitely we need the frock.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think I mean, it's not like a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna it's a challenge trouble for us.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, that troubles.

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<v Speaker 3>Much. Yes, right, so yes it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>I've hung a lot, we have slaughters things.

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<v Speaker 3>Pizza, pizza because it's free. I like you, I like

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<v Speaker 3>your How you think this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna sustain me?

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta pick out a deadline, you know, like a no,

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<v Speaker 4>not an article, you know, like an actually an outline

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<v Speaker 4>by Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this food is gonna get me through this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>This food and the bape cigarette combo that I'm meticulously

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<v Speaker 4>laid out for myself a regment.

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<v Speaker 2>Along with laps in the pool. I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>get that work done this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Vape SIGs, I still love my SIGs.

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<v Speaker 2>How come they can't invent a healthy do it? They

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<v Speaker 2>is so busy cutting like civil rights today whatever? Like

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<v Speaker 2>go and bend the fucking healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Say seriously, if we would all highly appreciate it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, so I think we're done with Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night fee what were some.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I do want to say one thing about that.

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<v Speaker 5>You're reminding me of another great moment.

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<v Speaker 4>But in Ladies and Gentlemen, the five was stays when

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<v Speaker 4>young Diane Lane, and I bring this.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to her when I see it. She doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the movie, but I do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Dern doesn't even want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Do There's this great scene where she's speaking at Ray

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<v Speaker 5>Winstone that used to be my screen shaver, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Punk rock when they discover a punk and they let

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<v Speaker 2>the house and a.

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<v Speaker 5>Girl gang and Ray Winstone is like the opening act

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Trumped by their new sound and he says to her,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, she says, Diane Lane says, like fifteen with

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<v Speaker 2>her fucking crazy damn, but we all make up a

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<v Speaker 2>punk you know, it's only like red, black and white colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, she says, you know you're jealous of me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm everything you wanted to be, and Ray Winstone says

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<v Speaker 4>I can't and she says exact, that's ther fucking inwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to be in that movie. Yeah, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the Saturday I fev of Arizona break right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done a lot of work with women and trauma

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<v Speaker 1>and surviving is this was it based on just things

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<v Speaker 1>that you that have heard in your life that chicken

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<v Speaker 1>through And I mean you're you're a huge not only advocate, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done incredible work in this area, which is you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess my attitude or approach is I just think

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<v Speaker 4>it's very weird when people don't realize, you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of fear. And by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>terrified twenty four seven and I'm always you know, hyper sensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of way, you know, bravado and not

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, no problem. Definitely don't need the sharing platic thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. But maybe I should have a

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<v Speaker 2>napping I would be wise. I look at this. You

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<v Speaker 2>take this one as well, please.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, anyway, go on, we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I just I just think for us,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like like the big boys are running on the sly.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know how we find each other,

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<v Speaker 4>but like Mikayla Cole at my apartment in New York

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There was construction in the place that she was at.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, taking my keys. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is going on in that apartment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why do I even have mortgages? Weren't we supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be rich by now? I'm like, why don't you have

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<v Speaker 2>an apartment?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Worry, you know, I figured it out with this the

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<v Speaker 4>final IP negotiation.

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<v Speaker 2>I just really is the craziest thing I could in

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<v Speaker 2>these ideas. I was like, that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>My model now, But exactly it's a good model. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that goes in line with don't say you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say no yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, for I mean, you know heavyweights

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<v Speaker 2>out there that.

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<v Speaker 4>Really and I would say that actually, you know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot this town is like as much as just like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, uh Liddy whatever, good ARROTI or something that's

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<v Speaker 4>the reputation. Usually when like you meet the big boys

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<v Speaker 4>or pretty serious people and there's a reason why they're.

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<v Speaker 9>Stuck about this and you usually I have yet to meet,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, anybody look like me know the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 9>your broken you know, manicure, fucking acrylic is for somebody else.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know why, but it's like, you know what

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, like their mother's suicide or something, you know

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<v Speaker 9>what I mean, Like it literally doesn't matter, like getting

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<v Speaker 9>molested or whatever it is. And it just seems like

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<v Speaker 9>nobody ends up in like a town of make believe

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<v Speaker 9>on accident and also with like the grit to be

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<v Speaker 9>able to kind of like dig deeps and everybody has

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<v Speaker 9>seen like fucked up shit in this life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just being a person. So I think, therefore.

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<v Speaker 4>Retroactively, my goal has always just been to like be

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<v Speaker 4>very mindful.

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<v Speaker 2>Well listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just at least after the first time

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<v Speaker 4>I took acid at fifteen and then it was determined

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<v Speaker 4>to take more acid than its operating and I had

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<v Speaker 4>no metric for what that number might be. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think I got there and I don't take I don't

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<v Speaker 4>take that kind of acid anymore, you see, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Table for two. Natasha Leone has been

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<v Speaker 1>acting since she was a teenager in the nineties, but

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<v Speaker 1>her career has only continued to heat up.

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<v Speaker 3>How does it feel to be in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment with multiple recent successful roles in TV? Series and

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<v Speaker 1>films you run.

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<v Speaker 3>Like one of the things that it's clear about you

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<v Speaker 3>is like like you're running.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have all this energy and are you finding

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<v Speaker 1>at this moment in your life which seems pretty epic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's been You've been working your whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>and but like everything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's dropping, movies you're in. You know, how does it

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<v Speaker 3>feel to be like in this.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like almost like because you know, so I

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<v Speaker 4>think that really I see it as.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like like a personal goal is a really it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the worst of all of them, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because it just doesn't really like that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of all show you that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have back from your private schools or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I pretty much showed them like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like you ask me to come back, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, no, would you graduate? And I'm now talking voices.

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<v Speaker 4>In fucking you know, Harvard and Yale and like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>have a the fifth grade education basically, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, very piss of school.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I do read.

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<v Speaker 1>AMC when I think of these sort of trains, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you bring up her Danes. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Chloe and like the whole group and like

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, like growing up in the seventies and eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>And why tell me about that. I know about my life.

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<v Speaker 3>You know about that well, I mean, but you're like

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<v Speaker 3>hitting it. I mean mine was very different. It was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you into disco?

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<v Speaker 3>I loved disco? I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to fifty four. But like the second iteration,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday nights, I was fifteen. We would go, We'd say

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to a movie and we'd go.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wasn't I was, you know, it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>a Heyday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was fifteen and sixteen and nineteen eighty two, so like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't wild though, I wasn't like hitting the streets downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could do anything again, growing up in New

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<v Speaker 1>York in the eighties, loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have leaned into taking more risks.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of came from there. Was I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that rebellious street And I actually think it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we grew up in places, there's something intrinsic

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<v Speaker 3>that you have in you, and I happen to me

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<v Speaker 3>because we grew up in a city like that, like

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of you learned very quick.

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<v Speaker 1>How to navigated, how to learn, how to sense danger,

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<v Speaker 1>how to be on the subway.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to walk street smart, street smart very important.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't social, yeah, one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one on one baby, and I can't really it's

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<v Speaker 1>like read the room and you know, and it's like quick.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's going to steal a single put off this

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<v Speaker 4>plate no matter how many times I walk off. I

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<v Speaker 4>could wander off in the distance, but I could steal

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<v Speaker 4>that palm tree whatever refer is that.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know, you know, I don't know now what yea,

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<v Speaker 3>what is that? That is not a palm tree.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pump from Yeah, no, it's not exactly because

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<v Speaker 2>it's skinny.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you're telling me you could scoot that planet.

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<v Speaker 4>I could take that whole plant out of here quicker

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<v Speaker 4>than they would ever take the food town from my

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<v Speaker 4>You know, man, who's basic smart like you?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like you have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me tell you the person that dares to

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<v Speaker 1>take that cruton they would be missing.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nothing spark.

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<v Speaker 3>How quick is your temper in l a Like.

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<v Speaker 5>My temper is not. It's not quick around that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of thing that I would consider an active mischief and

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<v Speaker 5>a merry prankster move.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would have deeper specta what's your name? You've

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<v Speaker 2>got the part? What part? I mean, movie about a

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<v Speaker 2>cup of water. I don't have all your other parties.

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<v Speaker 4>But if the studio is very concerned, they're saying something

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<v Speaker 4>about structure, and I told them, when you get there,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll know, bib All right, have you ever seen who

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<v Speaker 4>has water rights itself? Okay, clearly fucking very seen as

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<v Speaker 4>the water tight up lives of water man walks over

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<v Speaker 4>stills prutomme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of those kids that you're talking about, they

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<v Speaker 3>come from different things, you know what I mean, more

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<v Speaker 3>of the manner born. My grandfather was amazing and bricklayer,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Grandmather was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And my grandfather, the other one ran a restaurant. He

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<v Speaker 1>died young because he was a heavy smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavy drink smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>He was bad smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's getting noisier that I am the

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<v Speaker 1>one telling you that's smoking is good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry this has now become act. Yes, yes, what

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<v Speaker 3>are you saying?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I read a long article today that's a news

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<v Speaker 4>broke thanks to the new administration, and it's a distinctly

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<v Speaker 4>item nine oh nine, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>In versus really just a six zero six is smoking?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually turns out's really good for you big back of

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that nine oh nine. Yeah, you didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, the end to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the end you forgot from that bureau that

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<v Speaker 1>now no longer exists.

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<v Speaker 4>I see, because that was meant to be a bureau.

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<v Speaker 3>But they fired that person.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they said smoking is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And of course the tobacco companies gave you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six point two billion, you know, to the family to

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<v Speaker 1>then say smoking.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right, because we gave you money.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any way to get that cash as an

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<v Speaker 4>advanced You don't think, because I'm just saying, who else

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<v Speaker 4>does I want to do a smoking campaign?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think they get me?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I actually think you could get a smoking campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>And I actually think of course you heard.

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<v Speaker 1>It here first, the smoking campaign. They would pay you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for you I don't understand. Well, you certainly

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<v Speaker 1>can launch a campaign, and you right, that's that felt great.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't listen thing anybody told you you have that, You

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<v Speaker 4>grab yourselves and you know what, you get back to business.

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<v Speaker 2>And if somebody gives you a dirty look. You say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at me. Now I know what you're talking to.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't do it, and then your blow smoke raining

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<v Speaker 4>their fish guarantee five foot ditch.

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<v Speaker 2>You never can't COVID again with my smoking player.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about your commitment to and the work

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 3>With AI because you sterious studio. Yeah, the sterious studios

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<v Speaker 3>you are. You see the is there? Do you see

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<v Speaker 3>the threat of it? You say, okay, leave, this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to exist. We want to be in control of

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<v Speaker 3>our images and be caught, you know, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Because yeah, it's all crazy cuckoo like.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess promotion law five yere's so many maybe ten,

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<v Speaker 4>It's all quota helmet. It's all one long fucking day, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, I think that I started going down

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<v Speaker 4>these like rabbit holes like from that sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>first like Phil Bryson into and you know I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like an Honor Sam student, which is something that

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<v Speaker 4>I brag about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rational writers and makes fun of me a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There is like we know, Honor.

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<v Speaker 4>I was really into, you know, to a philosophy. As

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<v Speaker 4>a kid, I would write my journals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're terrible. They're all like third part person. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like, you know, simoon Divovoir or something. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be like. So they're all kinda you.

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<v Speaker 10>Know, man must and it's like what do you who

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<v Speaker 10>is man and my man must want? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, learn that you cannot rely on these fellows.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why that's my I was just really,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a pseudo intellectual LSD ways teenagers and tell them,

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<v Speaker 4>waits's only you.

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<v Speaker 2>So by the timing into espresional nons and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I bought.

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<v Speaker 4>In bit different old man search for meeting Wilhelm Reichs,

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<v Speaker 4>you know who invented for beginners, who invented.

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<v Speaker 2>The uh uh you know the orgle in therapy didn't end.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's sort of like, you know, you go in here,

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<v Speaker 4>you have orgasm when you can cut your weight, you know, happiness.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh nazis we''ting a fan and uh then you went

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit moody, to be honest. And so I

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<v Speaker 4>bought in those books and I was like, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 4>so we're gonna make half have a comedy for Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and less he's these two books.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 2>And the third book was I Am a Strange Loop

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<v Speaker 2>by Doug hops Thatt. Are you know? So it's essentially

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<v Speaker 2>I got very interested.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So when you must spend time in America in

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<v Speaker 4>All that Jazz and Jojo Dancer, Your Life Is Calling

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<v Speaker 4>and in The Singing Detective, they all have a recurring theme,

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<v Speaker 4>which is, you know, even in Once one of the

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<v Speaker 4>time in America, uh, de Niro wakes up and he's

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<v Speaker 4>in the uh you know, opium den with the phone ringing,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he's able to track back a whole life

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<v Speaker 4>of like when they were kids, so when when they

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<v Speaker 4>were kings.

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<v Speaker 2>So like when it fell apart and saying like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get in all that Jazz is like risch Hutter is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably usually my favorite favorite movie. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard in my secuberia or whatever. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like hard to not be like I mean, if

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<v Speaker 4>you hadn't seen a clockwork as a teenager, Like that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's hard to know. Yes, it's hard to unknown.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so multiple things. Okay, when one movie I left

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<v Speaker 4>out there is Jojo Didn't Your Life Is Calling? Which

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<v Speaker 4>with the Richard Pryor where he like you know, stars

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<v Speaker 4>as himself a post is like burning yourself on fire

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<v Speaker 4>from his crack addiction and writes wrecks and stars and.

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<v Speaker 2>Produce him whatever. And but it's also inside of a hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>But are you seeing that listening Detective with Michael Gambon,

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<v Speaker 2>deb No, it's f.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm like literally gonna have to like text

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<v Speaker 1>you and I want like a list we should do

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<v Speaker 1>like a little festival one weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>When I had this written into my doing will, which

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<v Speaker 4>I learned from Nora Afron.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't worry. You guys are sorry, but yes you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to get the.

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<v Speaker 4>Film for him, okay, okay, yeah, And they're just double

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<v Speaker 4>features of things like you.

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<v Speaker 2>It sets things up like this, like all that jazz

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<v Speaker 2>paired with jender dance. Your life is called right right okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and so on I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Have Yeah, maybe what we'll do is what's by the

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<v Speaker 4>time in America with saturnight fever, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we'll go like there'll be things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 4>Make sure one gets to see the hits and you're

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<v Speaker 4>dead when we're joining this, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, right, but cud were you at norris funeral?

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<v Speaker 3>It was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, remember how it was all pre planned?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it was all pre planned. She was

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<v Speaker 3>there was Nobody liked that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody like if I am not, If I did not

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<v Speaker 2>have Nor in my life when I did, like, none

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<v Speaker 2>of this would have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>More. Give me more about the first I did the

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<v Speaker 3>first draft of Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>Mall was me and nor was sitting in that weird

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<v Speaker 4>uh station, Uh you know, under pens station, Like there's

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<v Speaker 4>something like nice classy restaurant outside, not going inside with

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<v Speaker 4>the ice, and then yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And New Yorkers read each other's mind. She knew she's

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<v Speaker 3>like that, and I was thinking, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And not that that's a close far spot, but it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're there, and she was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like wrote down everything, so it's like, you know, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she's funny or change smokes. You know, remem

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<v Speaker 4>one time, let me say your place here in Bella

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<v Speaker 4>And for a movie that actually got defunded, it was

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<v Speaker 4>so in they uh, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Cant you stay here? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>I I usually ahead and she was liked, oh, would

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<v Speaker 4>you just shut up about the fucking drugs already?

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<v Speaker 11>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, uh, My next door neighbor was Ostril levant.

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<v Speaker 4>We get the idea. Uh, just call the housekeep and

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<v Speaker 4>you're done and smoke outside. Enjoy your life, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, like the Ultimate Book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Ultimate Bug is a great Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>that is very true.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us for Table for two our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Natasha Leone's show poker Face is back this week for

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<v Speaker 1>its second season, and she plays the main role and

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<v Speaker 1>serves as an executive producer. The crime comedy has been

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>a hit with audiences and critics alike. What does she

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<v Speaker 1>feel makes the show so special?

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Please talk to me about whatever. Tell me about this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>So this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sea Face is a wonderful show.

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<v Speaker 4>You like Colombo, and you like Big Lebowski, and you

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<v Speaker 4>like uh, Elliott Would and Robert all of them song

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<v Speaker 4>Goodbye and also in in California, split you if you

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<v Speaker 4>love Knives Out, and then.

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<v Speaker 12>You also love Colombo, and then you also have the

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<v Speaker 12>patience to endure this person who I can't imagine watching

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<v Speaker 12>for twelve hours straight personally.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's your choice. I don't have to only when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm directing, so you know, I would just say if

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many great people on it.

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<v Speaker 5>This year.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Cynthia Rivo, we got Malaney, we got Out

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<v Speaker 4>of Shockout, we got Apuafina, and we got Method Man.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't like I think, don't talk, don't tell Malaney,

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<v Speaker 2>but he made me. Made me laugh a little bit harder,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I will tell him directly to his

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<v Speaker 2>space when I see him in a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>actually on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he's hysterical, he is.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very funny, but I'm not sure there's this funny

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<v Speaker 4>as method Man from Yeah, Yeah No.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's running into type race tight club.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a sensational cash and season justin threw I

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<v Speaker 4>so many bait people showed up and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's very moving also because like the friends are basically

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<v Speaker 4>just popping in to be like, hey, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Played the ball came directing an episode, me with Cave

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<v Speaker 4>directing episode, Ti West.

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<v Speaker 2>Directing an episode.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I do, and you know, but really the

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<v Speaker 4>people in tite with on Poker Based are the like

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<v Speaker 4>the the camera department and like the crew.

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<v Speaker 2>The first ads are like my rider dies, you know, but's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like everything is my first short with me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like we go back. I don't know what it is now,

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<v Speaker 4>like fifteen years or something. Is orange, Orange Fresh and

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<v Speaker 4>all poker phase my first like fucking our short film.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it has a really catchy title. So this

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<v Speaker 4>is how you knew it was a hit, Caberia Charity

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<v Speaker 4>chast City Oh why Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So it turns out that.

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<v Speaker 4>So Sweet Charity with Selan McClain is actually directed by

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<v Speaker 4>the Pop Posse is a remake or an interpretation of

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<v Speaker 4>Fellini's Knights of Caberia starting and Jolianda Messina. So when

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<v Speaker 4>Carrie Branson's is some of these like Kenzo fashion films,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, then they started hitting me up and

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<v Speaker 4>I was in it and it went along with the

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<v Speaker 4>Commerschaal Ali and I Kim Gordon, all these great people

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<v Speaker 4>and and Roman Blanchet. And then so Carrie says, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you should do one, and I'm like what, No, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to do like a short fashion film. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I gotta make Deer Hunter out of the

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<v Speaker 4>Gate and no, this is not like the fuck Around show.

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<v Speaker 2>But then.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like talking to maya speakerphone in Fred's car.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I just don't like shorties, but like what

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<v Speaker 4>if it was in Gibberish? Is that something that like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like what do we invented a language? And

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<v Speaker 4>so it was called you know, Carearra Charity chastity because

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<v Speaker 4>this was gonna be the third part of the sequel.

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<v Speaker 2>No one asked for of that fly and Felini Frashi

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<v Speaker 2>you know, into my very.

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<v Speaker 4>Humble hands to align myself with them with Maya in

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<v Speaker 4>the classic Julietta Messina yes, and uh you know Shirlian

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<v Speaker 4>McClain pall and I think that people understood exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>I meant, but it was really actually probably some Chang

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<v Speaker 4>was the cematographer, who was like a fucking giant.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he does all like Partain movies and like

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<v Speaker 2>that sequence an old boy, that long corner of like

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<v Speaker 2>that fucking kills. I mean, he's just incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>And Arian Phillips in the costumes, like for sure, everyone

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<v Speaker 4>really showed up.

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<v Speaker 3>I sadly have not seen this. I need to see this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, I come.

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<v Speaker 2>Out during the Lestrato School for Clown sequence. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I came about? And fall are you know

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<v Speaker 2>doing to make up? And I was always like me

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<v Speaker 2>holding up camera lenses as an actual you know, LEENI

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<v Speaker 2>clown and they're all in Felini clown make up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very important. You don't have you never made a movie?

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<v Speaker 3>Have I never made.

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<v Speaker 2>Clowns? And are nobody will watch it? I make it

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<v Speaker 2>all subtitled because it's the third language that doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Only it's a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who is the genius of geniuses? He really is?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean Rudolph we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking about is just.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, it's I It's also just ridiculous because she's

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<v Speaker 13>just like I mean, but she would just she was like,

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 13>you know, it's kind of like comes said a little

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<v Speaker 13>bit like.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is my tea? What is a set?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.479
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden it says accident. She's

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 2>just like boom, you know, the power of wagers. Also

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>like that one time we're in a lot of the

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Bowery and we're having a just twenty years ago, right

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<v Speaker 2>in something ten fifteen. I don't know, I haven't know

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>something anymore, and who cares?

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we were like time it was like like

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 4>I think she was having a breakup or something, and

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 4>then it was really like emotional and like all the

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<v Speaker 4>way in and then the waiter came up.

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And she went right into a voice. So I was like,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>that is a superpower.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 4>I do not have this more commons you are thinking of,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Like I gotta like be in the pocket right to

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of be a little bit of a you know,

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 4>raga muff yeah together that like you know, you know

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 4>bridges like the dude.

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>That sort of lean back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't even want to be here if it

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 4>happened to be a camel, I pointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Anywhere but here, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically, you know, as a result of doing all

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 4>this like sort of like monophysics research essentially, which was

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 4>like definitely way out of my depth that I don't

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 4>understand anything about anything, but you know, I do understand

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 4>things like certain things. So essentially, like there's a theory

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 4>called it's called the Urn of Invention, and uh it's

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 4>it essentially the universe is made up of take a.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 4>So the code name for season two, Rush and All

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 4>it was a black gumball, okay, because in this Urn

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 4>of Invention, you have gray gumballs and you have white gumballs,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 4>and inside of there there's only one black gumball. So

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm very upset that I never got to shoot that

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 4>team because I had it very much in my mind.

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 4>When like, you know, young Nadia takes the gumball out

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 4>of her hand, it was just like, it's a scene

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 4>that in my mind I've already seen and that's very frustrating.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna have to get that done. Yeh, fire

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 4>walk with me now. And then later in the return

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 4>I talked to David nch about it. I'm very sad

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 4>that he's gone. Who's in I lived in my neighborhood

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 4>and I yeah, our last exchange.

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, uh, you know, hello,

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>hello sir.

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, do I need to evacuate because I'm in

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Puerto Rico And he said, yes, you should be evacuating.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 4>And I said, copy, you see you on the other side,

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 4>and he said, indeed, I wilke up.

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I was really eerie, like it's fucking like bon gan zones.

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 4>And he in that meeting, he held up a pencil

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 4>to me, you know, and it also told me that

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I reminded him a lot of like this old girlfriend

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 4>he had from high school, which was like me feel

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 4>like I was like, is this a vibe or whatever?

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And I was like because I'm down ah and uh,

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't even give whatever.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 4>It's like I want to be I just want to

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 4>be a witness, the witness in an outer body fucking

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 4>levitating state over there.

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 2>While you have sort of like some version of you know,

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>and so maybe a less scared and so it would

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 2>make him a blue velvet baby. Let's go maybe.

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 4>So you held up a pencil and he said, you know,

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 4>because I said what he thought on Ali because I was,

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, building dish thing.

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh he said, uh, well is a pencil. You see that?

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 4>And now everybody has a pencil, but not everybody can

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 4>do the same thing with the pencil.

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's what distinguishes the artist and you know and

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the writer or the whatever.

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 4>And you know, in in talking to you know, Brian

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know, Brand had this kind of like breakthrough,

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.399
<v Speaker 4>sort of like moment of uh who show pump tears.

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 4>He had come back and he seen like some of

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the the new tech that was merging and realized it

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 4>was like more be thought of almost like as a

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 4>camera lens or something, that it was just gonna be

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 4>a new medium. So sort of course I had talkies

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>to in silence talkies and you know we had oh

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 4>my god, how we evergant? You know, you must have

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 4>these giant cleeve lights and you must be swaying profusely.

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 4>That's how it's done. And it's you know, and we

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 4>must stop at the nightfall. There's such a thing saying

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know now and there were there was.

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Just sort of in a weird way, actually very similar.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 4>It was like they were like all the Keystone cop

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 4>stuff and all that Mabel Norman by Arboko Charlie.

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Tappan whoh I bring up?

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Because our offices are actually located in the Max Senett

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 4>studio in Silver Lake.

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>That was the Mabel Norman you know, tied up a

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<v Speaker 2>tree across the street.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>So what our discovery was was that the foundational model that.

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 4>This you know, these lums or whatever there's generative AI

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 4>machines were being built on. We're inherently dirty with straight

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 4>up that you know that you know, uh illegally uncopyrighted data,

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 4>straight thing from everything. So right now, if you go

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.439
<v Speaker 4>to one of these like Google ViOS or whatever you could,

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 4>like you can just type in give me toy stirty six.

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 4>I know, literally give me a toy story six. It's

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 4>just that graphic and essentially I guess what's Altman is

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 4>positioning for right now and who knows. But this was

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 4>like the letter that kind of like I don't know,

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 4>but it's by fucking I just stayed in that fucking

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 4>vetso manga style, fucking text messaging. Motherfuckers were not having

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 4>an on a Saturday, but being like except a kabl

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 4>and chet because that's the fuck you see. And so

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 4>she was like, no problem, just do it, phoebe thug.

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 4>She was like, you got it.

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me go get Martin and the like.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 4>Certain people just like have no Yeah, they're just like

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 4>they're punks, you know what I mean, And they're like

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 4>heart of hearts and you can tell.

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.919
<v Speaker 2>Other people were like, let me see all this goes

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>in three days? Right? I did it safe, you know.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>But it was essentially to sort of like form this

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 2>coalition and just staying around because we literally looked at

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>the office and realized on.

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 4>A Friday that was actually the petition was due by

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 4>eleven fifty nine Saturday a PM. And we're like wait

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 4>what and Chuck, you know, from Valley, was headed to

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 4>her flight back to San Francisco and.

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It was just like us in the ansider. I was like,

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>how are we gonna do this? And I was like,

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what we just do it. There is no time

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was miraculous to either kind of like the.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 4>Jesse Gordon Levett was like so helpful that he because

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 4>he was like, I think that you should ask because

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I was asking Eye for feedback in the beginning because

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't I'm not going to be the

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 4>author of this thing, like I'm not gonna you know,

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, You've got to have this paragraph

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 4>about very specifically, like how this impacts other industries that

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 4>did as well, because it's actually a you know, like

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 4>a global issue.

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 3>You as it.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 4>So somehow, you know Nick Anfiloni who works at this

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 4>Hysteria two, who's like, you know, I'd just done a

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 4>ton of animation at every like major fucking studio in town.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But he's a real died in the whole kind of

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>like artists first person. He was writing it with us.

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>It was like a real I don't know, I was

0:42:58.320 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>just winging it. So that's how I knew how to

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>be with it because that's my usual thing. But it

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 2>was essentially to just sort of cock block a bit.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's the political term for it, but

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 4>maybe in this administration it actually is.

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Thought, how can I say this in a way you

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>guys will understand if you're listening, Uh, doctor Trump, So

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 2>stop cock block in the artists. You see what I'm saying.

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just that's clear.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty clear, because it just feels like if you

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 4>actually have this kind of you know, sort of like

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 4>the cards align, you know, the match, the match sticks match,

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 4>and so you can actually suddenly studios and networks and

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 4>agencies and uh managers and talent and TikTok talent, they're

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 4>like they're all incentivized for the same thing, which is

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.840
<v Speaker 4>protecting their kind of underlying IP ownership and you know

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 4>to the best of like our abilities for everything that's

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 4>coming to the past. That's really like, you know, kind

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 4>of their arena and it you know what I mean,

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 4>like anything to I guess not sort of strike, but

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 4>like they cannot don't know, they can't be trained on

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 4>still an I P of course contracts right now it's

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 4>not still an IP if it's from the studios and

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 4>the networks wield our model on because Britain is a documentary,

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, a filmmaker like a Peace.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Corpy I and everything.

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 4>So he paid all those filmmakers or you know, with

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 4>like these investors and stuff.

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>He was able to get that paid for their work

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>for the underlying model, you know.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 4>But like you know, it is a question of kind

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 4>of you know, all the studios they technically based on

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 4>the old deals, they own the IP ownership of the

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 4>every everything that they.

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Made, right, so like some of it would go to

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 2>creators and stuff.

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 4>So that's like something like a nugget I'm trying to

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>crack as like a side arc, right, but you know,

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 4>this whole idea of like also just really kind of

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 4>like lock boxing, black boxing and guaranteeing our futures whatever

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 4>it is. Right now, they're actually petitioning just for like

0:44:55.920 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 4>to literally make it legal under the auspices of national

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.919
<v Speaker 4>security in China, to you know, scrape all that theft

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.760
<v Speaker 4>which media automatically overnight all writers that dies.

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 2>There is never another case. So like you, I don't

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. I've never I'm you know, uh not,

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 2>let's just actually wet. Just people are crazy people. I've

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 2>sort of made that a rule in my life. I

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 2>was like, we're all good. I'm not going to actually

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 2>sue you. I'm just gonna you know, but like I

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know how. I have no idea.

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 4>It's way about out of my depth. I'm trying to

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 4>figure it out a couple of hours Google. But you know,

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 4>it's just it's it's really going to be quite complicated.

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's like that's what's so crucial about like everybody

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 4>in town.

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Man, like, hey, she's just like this is what we do, right, like.

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, and then because right now they're just trying

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 4>to make it no whole tomorrow, right, so it's already happened.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, it has happened. So, I mean, it is that

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 3>change that exists that we are living in and we're

0:45:56.680 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 3>seeing the regulations need to be. The fight needs to

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 3>be or you lose.

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Lose we all lose it.

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.280
<v Speaker 3>We as we lose everything. The day you use your identity,

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 2>You gotta make a you know, it's Shakespeare Monolague Park

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 2>for free.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's it is wild.

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Not to knock on Jakes spear, but it's not my

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:19.760
<v Speaker 2>favorite thing of the city offers.

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I did love Mark Ryland's I mean, I like some

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 2>of the zingers. You know what I mean, the classics.

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I like the big hits.

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know it to be an to be I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, bro I get you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is the last of our second season.

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<v Speaker 1>I've loved sitting with so many wonderful guests over the

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<v Speaker 1>last year, from electric interviews with Kristen wigg and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Goldblum to thoughtful conversations with award winners like Divine, Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Randolph and Adrian Brody. As I sit with Natasha at

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<v Speaker 1>a table of sliders, fries, pizza, pigs in a blanket,

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<v Speaker 1>and many glasses of Seltzer and Arnold Palmer, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that you the listener, have joined us for our lunches.

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<v Speaker 1>Natasha is one of a kind and the perfect guest

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<v Speaker 1>to share our final meal of the season. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, as we kind of wrap, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been one of the most enjoyable table for TUSA.

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<v Speaker 2>But I get enough about you. Do I a new restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no new restaurant. It would be it

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<v Speaker 1>would be something like in the DNA of old school

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<v Speaker 1>Italian Steakhouse, New York. Oh yeah, speak easy Italian probably,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the DNA of bossis and it would

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<v Speaker 1>be small, it would be you know, there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of friends that we share on the East cart so like,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're ready, you should get back in, like you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I always feel like I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going I'll go to media.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going on I'm about that. Yeah, yeah, we need

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<v Speaker 2>a new spot, right, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Need a new spot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think my thing is avl who's seventeen, who

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<v Speaker 1>you've met once she's out of high school.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna be like, where's my six it's creasy for

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, where's my speakingsy steakhouse? Even my dad?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, this is a multi generation redo it so maybe,

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<v Speaker 11>but you know right now, like my eye is on her,

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<v Speaker 11>my eye is on you know this, and we're going

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<v Speaker 11>to figure out the next chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, do you think we're at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>act three? Is that you too?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're at that and not used to not

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<v Speaker 1>being when you turn when you were getting close to sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, three, there's a full act in three.

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<v Speaker 14>There's a full if you do it right, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 14>to twenty five years where you're like, I'm in the game,

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<v Speaker 14>and then whatever you know, bad willing.

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<v Speaker 3>You got your health, you got your body, you got

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<v Speaker 3>your right. Yeah, I do. I feel like I'm at

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<v Speaker 3>the top back three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you are doing. I also feel like I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>the top of a three. But you know your twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years jun to know you think so. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm like, come into the clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm running as fast as I can, you know, yeah, yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm like I always say times, yeah, times fucking

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<v Speaker 4>catching up. I'm like watching my sign for you stand

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<v Speaker 4>in the hour glass.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the days of my lives and there numbered.

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<v Speaker 3>And on that note, thank you for joining us. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>Natasha gorgeous and you know what, yes, yeah, thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, thank you for joining.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>This is lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy to thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>For having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for pulling up a chair.

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<v Speaker 1>I love our lunches and never forget the romance of Omeo.

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