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Speaker 1: We had a late late night last night. It's been

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Speaker 1: yesterday we we kind of got I mean, we got

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Speaker 1: You're invited see if you want to sign him to

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Speaker 1: We're saying, here's a tryout, and we invited every NFL team.

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Speaker 1: So this is once again the NFL saying, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: making it so hard on him, couldn't get a shot off.

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Speaker 1: He was shooting a terrible percentage. Don't tell me Patrick

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Speaker 1: Beverley doesn't play good defense. You're a hater. You're an

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Speaker 1: absolute hater, Russell Westbrook. Do you know, deep down, you

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Speaker 1: know Patrick Beverley plays defense. And I love the way

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Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley plays defense. That dude has a chip on

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Speaker 1: his shoulder and he doesn't care who you are. He's

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Speaker 1: there to play, and he is gonna go at you hard,

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Speaker 1: hard all night, and he gonna annoy you, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna pester you, and you're gonna be sick of him.

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Speaker 1: And I love it. And for Russell Westbrook to say

435
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Speaker 1: he ain't guarding nobody, He's just out there running around.

436
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: He's got y'all fooled. No, you got yourself fulled, Russell Westbrook.

437
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Speaker 1: That's what you got. You got fooled. But If you

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Speaker 1: don't think he plays defense, get out of here with

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Speaker 1: your crap. Just give the guys. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: say anything about him, Just say, oh, looks like he

441
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: had a rough night. Harden score. Don't tell me he

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Speaker 1: doesn't play defense. Don't even try to bring that weak

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Speaker 1: crap to me. Russell Westbrook, Maybe you learn how to shoot?

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Speaker 1: How about that? That's one thing we can say. You

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Speaker 1: can't shoot, you don't know how to shoot. That's more

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Speaker 1: accurate than Patrick Beverley doesn't play defense, because Patrick Beverley

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Speaker 1: plays some damn defense. D doesn't play defense, You don't

448
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Speaker 1: shoot the ball. Well, that's more accurate. Accept your flaws

449
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Speaker 1: before you try to say Patrick Beverley doesn't play defense.

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Speaker 1: If there's one person that plays defense every single night,

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Speaker 1: it's Patrick Beverley. There are basketball players that take nights

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Speaker 1: off because it's a long season, load management, or they

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Speaker 1: just don't try us hard. You know who tries hard

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Speaker 1: every night and plays defense every night? Because defense is

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Speaker 1: all effort and who gives the most that If you're

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Speaker 1: watching an l A Clipper game, who is the one

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Speaker 1: giving the most effort out of anybody on the court,

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Speaker 1: but either team, it's Patrick Beverley. I'm not even a Patrick.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a Patrick Beverley jersey, but I would

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Speaker 1: love to have one because I love the way Patrick

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Speaker 1: Beverley plays, love it. I would take Ted Patrick Beverley's

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Speaker 1: over Ted Russell Westbrooks. I'll tell you that right now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I wouldn't do that. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that that's that's probably a

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Speaker 1: bad statement that that might be. You know, but I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have Patrick Beverley than Russell Westbrook on my team.

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Speaker 1: I I really would. I think Patrick Beverley is more

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Speaker 1: of a team player. He plays defense. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna move on from that because I

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Speaker 1: may get out of control. But Patrick Beverley plays defense

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Speaker 1: for us. Just just admit it, Just say you were wrong.

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Speaker 1: He plays defense, because I'm about to admit I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: It took me a couple of days to come to

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Speaker 1: terms with this. I didn't want to admit it. We

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Speaker 1: don't like to admit when we're wrong. All year, I've

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Speaker 1: been saying there's a team that's not very good, but

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Speaker 1: they're trash, they're highly overrated, and that's the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: um their defense on Monday night actually looked really good.

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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. Wow, that that that that's that's the Clowney

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Speaker 1: you want every game? Where where? Is that? Every game?

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that takes games off. If

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Speaker 1: he gave that effort every game, he could be one

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Speaker 1: of the best defensive players in the NFL. Instead, it's

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00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: two games awesome, then one game you don't hear from him.

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Speaker 1: I mean we really hadn't. I mean, he hadn't dominated

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Speaker 1: a game like that all year. He is so good

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00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: he should dominate every game like that. But but I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks are pretty good. I'm gonna say now Seahawks are contenders,

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Speaker 1: contenders and the NFC. I'm not gonna say you're the

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Speaker 1: best team in the NFC. That was an ugly game

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Speaker 1: on Monday night. Defensive struggle, the offenses were bad. And

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Speaker 1: can we get I want to stop? Can we stop

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Speaker 1: with the group think? Why do we have to group

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Speaker 1: think everything? One person says Russell Westbrook, or not Russell Westbrook,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry at one person says Russell Wilson is oh

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Speaker 1: the leading candidate for the m v P. And then

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Speaker 1: It's like everybody is brainwashed into auto batically saying Russell Westbrook,

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Speaker 1: he's the clear leader for m v P of the

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Speaker 1: NFL so far. Really, what did Russell west god Russell Westbrook?

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Speaker 1: I can't do the Russell's back to back. That's what

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00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm learning. Russell Wilson, what did he do on Monday?

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Speaker 1: That was so impressive? Oh? Oh that that that I

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Speaker 1: n t He threw an overtime Oh wait did he score?

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Speaker 1: Let me see no, that was a defensive touch another

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Speaker 1: defensive touchdown? Um crop, Okay, he didn't do much. He

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Speaker 1: had a bad game, and they were on the broadcast

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Speaker 1: they were slurping him like, oh, he's clearly the favorite

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Speaker 1: for MBB. Looking at what he's doing out here tonight.

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Speaker 1: What's he doing? What did he do out there all night?

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Speaker 1: They didn't do anything. He made one play in overtime

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Speaker 1: with his legs where he ran for like eighteen yards

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Speaker 1: to get them in the field goal range. Yes, that

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00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: was a that was a good play. But let's not

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Speaker 1: act like he's set the world on fire all night.

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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: But no, we get in this group think attitude where

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Speaker 1: we have to name Russell Wilson the m v P

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Because one person said it, no one

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Speaker 1: else will disagree. Everybody will just say, oh, yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, m v P, Yeah, MVB. Does no one

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Speaker 1: else think for themselves? Does no one else look at

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and say, oh my god, that news the

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Speaker 1: m v P. Where would the Carolina Panthers be without

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I I don't there with an undrafted quarterback

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Speaker 1: who's playing all right, But you want to know why

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Speaker 1: he's playing all right because he's got Christian McCaffrey taking

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Speaker 1: a load off his shoulders kissed. Christian McCaffrey will run

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Speaker 1: for a hundred yards. Oh who's open out of the flat? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. He'll catch fifteen balls a game, and you're gonna,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can we not see anybody besides Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: That's all I hear is Russell Wilson's declared favorite for

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Speaker 1: m v P. Hey, guys, there's a guy down in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: His name is Christian McCaffrey. He's a white running back.

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Speaker 1: I know you're like, oh, he's a white running back

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00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: and me that good. No, he's really damn good. Is

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Speaker 1: he the best running back in the NFL? Probably the

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Speaker 1: NFL nowadays, you gotta be able to catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: and he can run it and he can catch it.

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Speaker 1: So he's to me, he's the best running back in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, best running back in the NFL. But we

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00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: all we're gonna say, is russ so Wilson m v

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Speaker 1: P because we're a group think. I can't think for ourselves. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: has to be Russell Wilson because one person annointed Russell Wilson,

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00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: and so that's everybody in America thinks it's Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: for m v P. He's having a great year. He's

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Speaker 1: really he's awesome to watch. He's fun to watch. But

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Speaker 1: when they give me a vote for NFL MVP, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how I get that. No, I just write

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Speaker 1: a letter of the NFL. I don't know. I'll go

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Speaker 1: to NFL dot com. I'll say, hey, can I vote

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey m VP of the NFL. And then tonight,

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Speaker 1: oh Boy Brown's Steelers. I after watching the Steelers defense

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Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Rams, who I think the Rams

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00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: are just I don't know if it's the Super Bowl hangover.

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00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: It's the lack of running game. If they're just sad,

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Speaker 1: I I then the lack of confidence. I don't know,

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00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: but that Pittsburgh defense looked unbelievable. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the Pittsburgh defense was unbelievable or if the Rams

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Speaker 1: offense is just that bad, because they really haven't The

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00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: Rams haven't really done anything this year. They haven't really

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Speaker 1: been impressive all year. They're not the high flying offense

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Speaker 1: that we've been used that we got used to the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. They kind of just puttered around

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Speaker 1: and you know, blah blah blah blah, played with their peter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they they haven't been that impressive. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I should be who impressed with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers defense. But I feel like the Steelers defense

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Speaker 1: has been hand really well the last few weeks, the

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Speaker 1: last few games. So I look at the Browns tonight

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Speaker 1: and I'm like they are in deep trouble. They are

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Speaker 1: in so much trouble because the Browns have been bad

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Speaker 1: all year. Their offense has been horrid, putrid, can't do anything.

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Speaker 1: So of course I'm gonna think that the Browns are

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Speaker 1: gonna lose this game and that they're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do anything. But these division games, you know

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Speaker 1: one another. So I'm so impressed by the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 1: So I I'm sitting Odell Beckham. He's on my hashtag

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Speaker 1: store Losers fantasy team. I am putting Odell Beckham on

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Speaker 1: the bench. Sorry, can't do it. I can't trust him,

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Speaker 1: can't play him. Why can't I play him? Because did

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00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: you see what they did to Cooper Cup zero catches? Now?

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: Is that because Jared Goffin wasn't that good or did

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00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: they just do a great job of covering him taking

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Speaker 1: him out of the game. Can they do the same

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00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: thing with Odell? Why ain't taking a chance O'Dell will

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Speaker 1: be on the bench, which means O'dell'll go off for

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00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, ten catches, hundred yard, two touchdowns. That's how

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00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: fantasy works. But I like, I like the Steelers tonight.

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: How how can you not like the Steelers with that defense?

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00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: I am I'm taking the Steelers. I think the Browns

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00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: are just in shambles, that the team is a disaster.

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Speaker 1: I think Freddie Kitchens is in way over his head,

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Speaker 1: and I mean they struggled to beat them I mean

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Speaker 1: they couldn't get it eight plays from the one yard

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Speaker 1: line on the Browns or the Bills, and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: get in. Given the Steelers tonight, Mason Rudolph I hadn't

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00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Backup quarterback, starting to get a little confidence,

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00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: starting to build a little rapport with James Washington, former

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00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: teammate Oklahoma State. They're starting to say, hey, what I

599
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: remember how he used to do to Oak State pokes.

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00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: They're doing it in the NFL now, So yeah, give

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00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: me that. All right, I'm gonna go home. I'm tired.

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a nap. Do you guys watch them

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: as last night? It's fun. It's a good time. Huh.

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00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: All right, hopefully this wasn't too boring. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll I'll be back tomorrow. It's nice and rested.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun. Uh yeah. Hit us up

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Sore Losers Show on Twitter, and we are

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Speaker 1: the Sore Losers at gmail dot com. If you want

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Speaker 1: to send us an email, thanks for hanging with me today.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, that's all I got. Go stealers and we

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Speaker 1: out or I'm out, you're out. Peace out.