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Speaker 1: He's Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rappers.

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Speaker 1: drunk fast drinks. Mother is New year' z. That's it's

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Speaker 1: time for drink chances. Trick up, motherfuck. It's diversification. That's

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Speaker 1: what also biggest to my brother to tone in the Howard. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so diversification. Listen, Yeah that's black. Hey listen, man, listen, listen. Diversification.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shot out. Yeah, let's go there.

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Speaker 1: So when you diversify your equity splitts, when you diversify

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Speaker 1: you diversify your zip code, you diversify your bank statement,

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Speaker 1: you diversify everything, you can diversify the way that you

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Speaker 1: it's a good lane. You can't keep going to that

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Speaker 1: well that we'll gonna run dry. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So now you look at Let's to be clear. You

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Speaker 1: got cats in the street on the teams with the Rutger.

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Speaker 1: Those same cats now own teams in NBA. They diversified.

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Speaker 1: You have cats that invested in their waters. You have

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Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite lines in the in

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Speaker 1: the world from j on Some Humble Ship, not all

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Speaker 1: a great verse, when he said, how do I feel?

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Speaker 1: Gumbo Dumbo? You know what I'm saying about. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like diversifying everything. Like, let's be clear,

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Speaker 1: everybody likes a raise, everybody likes a fandom, and like

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Speaker 1: a ghost. And I'd rather drive down the Cadillac. Why

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get me to the same place, James, you

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Speaker 1: have a race stop. I haven't. Okay, I have Okay,

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Speaker 1: you definitely pulled up in a new range getting money

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Speaker 1: You know, I called it Parker. Car's name is Shammoo.

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Speaker 1: important that we do that, and it's so important that

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Speaker 1: Because everybody gets the hundred thousand dollar advance where they

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Speaker 1: your taxes, what you got nothing, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So how many times we have to go tell these

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Speaker 1: young these independent artists, you don't go buy that change,

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Speaker 1: buy that watch, investing something, put your money in a

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Speaker 1: mutual from put your money and something that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: didn't have that type of direction when we were coming up.

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Speaker 1: You know we did ever was in I S Jewelry,

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Speaker 1: Barry and that change, trying to get that cross because

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Speaker 1: that's what we presented ourselves and asking them that that

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Speaker 1: showed how much money we had. You don't need to anymore,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. It's about doing the things that will give

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Speaker 1: you generational wealth. Do things that will give wealth to

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Speaker 1: an environment with financials, and look, with financials what is

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Speaker 1: out feature? Because let's be real to everybody listening, y'all

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna feel the pain of this pandemic for another

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Speaker 1: two years when the stock market after this election. You

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Speaker 1: must agree it seems like you don't have any broke

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Speaker 1: friends anymore? Yes, I do, Yes, broke friends I have.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I have friends that are broke, friends

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Speaker 1: people that have no piece of line. I haven't met

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Speaker 1: spirituality being bro No, no, I'm not talking about that.

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Speaker 1: it simplastic. I'm just saying, when I go out, like

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Speaker 1: love and hip hop. What is going on after after

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Speaker 1: I've never met her my friend? I know, no, like

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Speaker 1: when that was going down, when Puff was rolling up

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Speaker 1: being gotten by everybody is flossing. It's not flosen. That's

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Speaker 1: She deals with Monu, Scott and Cardi b We're around billionaires,

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Speaker 1: don't have to apologize for it. I'm not apologizing because

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Speaker 1: premier strategist, he knows exactly what he's doing. That was

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00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: and then kids total in case and all wait, wait, wait, wait,

424
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: wait do you go back? Shout shout to Jessica rosen Bloom.

425
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Shout to Jessica rosen

426
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: Bloom and what the tunnel did because not only on

427
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: a personal no, Jessica introduced me to the two most

428
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: important people in my life in the business, Chris L.

429
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: And Puff Daddy, so Jessica Rosen Bloom and the tunnel

430
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: and that movement during those times, Let's go down will

431
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: never be you know what I'm saying. That Sunday night

432
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: at the tunnel that block. You know, it was the

433
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: greatest moment, one of the greatest moments of my life

434
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: was um, I went to l A. This is when

435
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: everyone that got robbed in l A and we were

436
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: the only things out there with a K forty sevens.

437
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: We just won't give it to any l A thing.

438
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, LA niggers. I didn't care, but I wrought

439
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: of the toughest niggers from the Bronx Brooklyn and motherfucking Queens.

440
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: And I knew because I understand what happened in the

441
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: impact of Ure and we know Nova, we know Nevato.

442
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: I said, oh, they pulling it up, So I said,

443
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I pulled it up. And if any

444
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: pod didn't know, you know, three toll buses. A lot

445
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: of people know these stories. But we did it in

446
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: the l A and we pulled up in the l A.

447
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: We weren't playing with nobody. And I don't even know

448
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: why I brought myself, but let's go back to l

449
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: A the Nico Hotel. Okay, the Nico Hotel. Yes, that's

450
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: where now having a wheel the truck park in front

451
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: of the Nico Hotel, Blast and bust round reme that.

452
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how we promoted these albu Let's talk

453
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: about the cartoon for Violated two point oh and the

454
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: comic books drawing character. Let's talk about. Let's talk about

455
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the final little boat ride at the

456
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: make Shore Power summing. That's what super Let let it

457
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: tell you Lee, let me tell you start. I'll get

458
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: you start. Just so. So James comes up with this

459
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: idea for a boat ride. But he had an idea

460
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: for a boat ride during the day, and I was like,

461
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: we said, remember that we had it. Sat in the meeting.

462
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the corny and ship in the world.

463
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: A fucking boat ride during the day that she gotta

464
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: be at night. He was like, nah, being you bucket,

465
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: And we was literally in the meeting like we was

466
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: just arguing. We was in the meeting arguing about a

467
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: day and night boat ride. I ain't gonna lie. He

468
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: won and he was dead fucking It wasn't just a

469
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: boat That's the first time I ever saw in my life,

470
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: and you would addict that day. You know, you deal

471
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: with the pressure of you were trying to organize amazing,

472
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 1: just asshole and then you're right here. Many go back

473
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: to the way, wait behind a lot, let's keep it

474
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: one hundred. That was Calid was begging, need to play

475
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: that boat Rod. Calid was begging because remember in the

476
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: first floor, you had the second floor, you had the

477
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: gam floor like it was it was history and on

478
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: thing the top that was Luke's. He had his own boat, right,

479
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was that same year, but

480
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: he had his own that she was crazy. So I'll

481
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: be honest, shout to Luke because I stole his idea.

482
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: I just made it a little better. And you know

483
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: we did it to a whole another level because I

484
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: love the honesty. Because no, but because we had an

485
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to do things nobody else, nobody else would let us.

486
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: You have the record label money, we spend our money.

487
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: Crazy one spend our when we spending record label's money

488
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: because they needed us, they needed us. We was in

489
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: those something you know what I'm saying, Like you know

490
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: it was those are the times we all got together.

491
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: We were a family. We would tried. You know what

492
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you don't feel that no more. I don't

493
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: see a convention in fact fact impact you know what

494
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, How can that be? Could be Dallas. That's

495
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: that's everything. Little Jack the Rapper literally nine years old

496
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: spitting that Jack the Rapper, I'm not gonna lie. When

497
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: I look at south By Southwest, I'm not impressed something.

498
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: But I mean it's differences. Come on, you come down

499
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: so sorry, Let listen. I don't know you just hate,

500
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: but it's South South all the time. Listen. What we're

501
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: trying to say is I like my sneakers sometimes when

502
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: I gotta walk through all this all that ship. But

503
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest problem with south By Southwest, I'm

504
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: never gone. Yeah, but the biggest part about something about

505
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: South Coachella or any of those festivals now is that

506
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: they don't have us in the room playing in that ship.

507
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: I like the crust. They don't have the hand. We

508
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: were hungry, We didn't know what we would do it.

509
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: We were learning by trialing, and we were doing it

510
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: for the last When I was saying, but let me

511
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: just so, people don't think when I say us I

512
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: don't mean specifically me and Jake when I say they

513
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to. They don't have to. That's how comes

514
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: so many brands make so many mistakes when they try

515
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: to do you know, Gucci with the fucking because they

516
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: don't have us in the room. So they're gonna continuously

517
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: make those mistakes. And you're never gonna fight, and it's

518
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: never gonna be duplicated, because how can I be down

519
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: with the pitying me of urban culture. Jack the rapper

520
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: was the pity me Yo impact Yo makes sure power,

521
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: make sure power something in Puerto Rico. Make sure the

522
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: fucking pitome get control of the Miami everybody driving everybody,

523
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: thousand people, you know what I'm saying. But then when

524
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: we took it to Puerto Rico, then it really became

525
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: it was a DJ explaining something to you. Had it

526
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: not been for the DJ, yeah, we wouldn't be who

527
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: we would be. DJ Enough got married about two years ago.

528
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: They felt like the mix show powers. Look, I said,

529
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: how did he turn his wedding into the mixshow power something?

530
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: He's in a legend, But I've never seen a wedding

531
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: with so many logos, logo from every company I said,

532
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: holy Moly Moly noneber. The mix show DJ was the

533
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: key for us getting our records. Remember it wasn't on

534
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: the Stags on the play All make records no more

535
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Mixed DJ. By the way, you should make shore you should.

536
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: I ain't lose it. I still got some year. You

537
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: should make records. No reason why. I don't know Corning you.

538
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I've been calling you for two years. I've been calling

539
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: him two years. He didn't want to be on Drink Chap.

540
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, bayh, he's going on another hip hop where

541
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: nor was making? What what? What? He just in one

542
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: of even Left Rack No More? He was getting He

543
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: was driving new ricks, living in New Jersey. You know

544
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: he was buddy buddy with yall. He didn't want to

545
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: go back to Left Rock was one of my favorite groups.

546
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: One of my friend shut up poem, We listen. We

547
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: got left Rack Day. This is not coming out before.

548
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm saying this, but we got

549
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: left Fact Day on Saturday. I'm going on Left Rack Day.

550
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Havn't been a Left Rack Day years. Please. I always

551
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: wanted to know the impact that you're working with Farrell

552
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: had all your life. I'm want to tell you something.

553
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: I appreciate this question. As you wear your Forrell speakers.

554
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: I am where the friends. I'm not gonna like that's

555
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: what I want. I'll be telling him like, yeah, I

556
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: only eve the free beats, the law Listen, i'n be honest.

557
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm asked we've been working hard, so hard to live

558
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: with hip hop history that I haven't been been needing

559
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: to do music. It doesn't mean I don't want to

560
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: do music. I just haven't needed to do it, which

561
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: is a great feeling. I've worked hard to have this feeling.

562
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: Please salute me for thattely question. Okay, I don't know

563
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: if I'm anna answer this question correctly. I'm gonna tell

564
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: you you want me to tell them to think about this?

565
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: It was this was I was the dude from New

566
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: York that went to Virginia and went to the strip club.

567
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: I was a dude from New York that went to

568
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta and went to the strip club. At that time,

569
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: in New York, you were the corniest dude in the world.

570
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: If you walked in scores unless you had a mafia connection.

571
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: You had a mafia connection. You could be in scores

572
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: and be cool. Is the only strip club that was

573
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: popping in New York at the time, and that it

574
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: was Scores and these were skinny white girls and you know,

575
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: anybody don't Scores. I was there every week. I'm just saying,

576
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: let's so what I'm trying to say. So I was

577
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: just so I did a record called in a track

578
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: master tone you know, don't read stands for right and

579
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: for for for you guys that don't know. At one point,

580
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: New York Random World. So I had the number one

581
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: record in New York. It was called you know, and

582
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: it was the number one record on how they set

583
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: and there was no power one on five, So how

584
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: do they seven Random World at this time? Down? So

585
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm talking about every show. I didn't care nowhere it

586
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: was in the world. Dude calls me, He says, you

587
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: gotta meet this producer. So I'm on the way to Miami. Ironically,

588
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: who called you, said, dude? Rob Walker? Rob Walker called

589
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: Martin Moore and Mark Mare called me by the way,

590
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: so they said, yeah, you gotta meet this producer. The

591
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: producer says you cannot close your album without him. The time.

592
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I got the number one record in

593
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: New York. To me, you're doing about just what Justin

594
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: Bieber is. That's who I think I am. Just what

595
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they're like, yo, you gotta meet this guy.

596
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: So I'm like, at this time, this is the time,

597
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: and you know when I'm coming to Miami, coming to Miami,

598
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm coming with people I don't know how to travel

599
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: down like I just I just don't get it, like

600
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: like why go to a neighborhood when I could bring

601
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: my own neighborhood, right is right? So real me on.

602
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like, boom, go to the studio. This is

603
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: where and this is a lot of people. I'm gonna

604
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: hurt a lot of people feelings. A lot of people

605
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: think Big recorded and bad Boy. What's it called Daddy's house? Well,

606
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: daddy's house was on street. Sound on sound was on street.

607
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Big used to lay his votos on forty five Street

608
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: and then let people make shit and down so covers

609
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: next to that score right there, back next to that,

610
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: because a little score was a little two still there,

611
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: it's still there. It's like it's it's stills a white

612
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: strip up right there. So so I had it and

613
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: big Hat upstairs. So Branson would be like, I love

614
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: you motherfucker's because Branson would come and south big in

615
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: this heull me. But if you thought, you know, everyone

616
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: was that that let me move on. So I walked

617
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: in the studio for real. He was like this from

618
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: the beginning. Choker. He had a choker from the beginning.

619
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: He has some tight shot on from me, like when

620
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: tight ship wasn't nice, Like I got on forty four paths. Yeah, yeah,

621
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: we were heading seventeen seventeen and Tommy Jacket super white

622
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: walking in there with my tips, tip, my tips, my leo,

623
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: my tips. I walk into lad because they stopped my

624
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: flight and boarding Miamis for the first time I go

625
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: to Miami. So I'm like some you know, for someone

626
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: I got, I'm gonna I look and this guy goes

627
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: like this plays me a beat beat, this phenomenal. But

628
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't want to be like

629
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm giving the regular nod even though inside

630
00:39:51,160 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: plays the second beat, third beat. He goes, don't listen

631
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: to this till you get to Miami. I remember where

632
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to Miami. I remember where I stayed. It's

633
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: the Kent Hotel. I'm not very proud of where I

634
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: stayed at now, but back then I didn't know k sound.

635
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Now this is back in the days. I got the

636
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: CD player. So I'm listening to the first joint. I'm like,

637
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: and me has know me. This is my engineers. You know,

638
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm righting off top and I'm listening to the second joint.

639
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm righting off top. Then the third one. I remember

640
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: he told me, he said, don't listen to the third one.

641
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: It takes me everything in the world not to listen

642
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: to the third but I don't. I respect him, and

643
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: I remember we're laying and you know, this is New

644
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: York Tuesday, first time in Miami. They all on this

645
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: trip going crazy. Remember what Willie? We don't even discover

646
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: what Willie. That's the first night. But will is behind

647
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: the kill. We're need to discover that. Yeah, my dudes

648
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: is all around left Bronx. So I I I'm still focused.

649
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm sitting like I check in and get my and

650
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: then our female come up to me and she's like,

651
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: hey talking. I'm like, oh ship, and then she's like,

652
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: but you don't want to party? I was like, oh shot.

653
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: I thought I was way too cute. Hold on, let

654
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: me relaxed. You're hooking. Huh. She's like, oh, look at

655
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: the funk out of here. I'm not going to hook up.

656
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I go upstairs. I listened to the beat. This is

657
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard a producer make a

658
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: beat for me. But he literally couldn't sell us to

659
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: no one else. That's just that man, well Noriega, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

660
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that he said. Yeah, yeah, the

661
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: check singing. And I wrote the whole ship. A lot

662
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: of people doubt me. They're like, you wrote the whole ship, Like,

663
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: but if you're from the new generation, you think I'm

664
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: a boso for writing the whole song. I wrote the

665
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: whole song in thirteen minutes, and I laid the whole

666
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: song in five to seven minutes. I didn't know how

667
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: to punch in. We didn't know how to punch in.

668
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: That was that you. I said that. I was like

669
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: this to listen. If you have to punch in, you

670
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: have to take ship. I wrote that whole song straight up,

671
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you something what what what what? What? What? What? One? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

672
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: To what what? That's how I counted bars. That was

673
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: never I wrote the whole right track studios. You said,

674
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: right early, Right track studios. So when I flew in,

675
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: I flew in from Miami because I um like I said,

676
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: I called for a round, and I said, the only

677
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: thing I want to change this he said, he said yeah.

678
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: The girl was saying yeah yeah. I was like, what

679
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: I want to change to? What what I have a

680
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: hited to marrow? She's gonna do it. And I was like,

681
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: all right, cool, she wouldn't write Right Track Recording studios.

682
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: And I laid the whole ship all the way through.

683
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to shout to text. Let me

684
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: just finish. Because I went upstairs and I did the

685
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: ad libs on my verse. Listen to my verse. I

686
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: have Adams on my verse, have ad libs. I have

687
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: doubles on my verse. I have nothing on the hook

688
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: because that was how I counted my verse. So I

689
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: went upstairs and I said, all we need is the

690
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: hook and we good. And he came upstairs, and I

691
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. He had Chinese food. In my mind.

692
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just leave it alone, just

693
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: like just roll my story like he just had Tchinese food,

694
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: like like chopsticks. I said, we got this and I

695
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: went downstairs and then he mastered it. He said, this

696
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: is it. I said, well, where's the hook? I said,

697
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: that is the hook and I said, they're gonna laugh

698
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: at me. The hook is He said, He're going to

699
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: laugh all the way to the bank. We're back for

700
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the people to make the people that the people on

701
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the scene. Now I need to ask y'all, and I

702
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: don't want y'all. I don't want you to hold back.

703
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I really want you to tell the truth. What is

704
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: the most difficult artists you ever worked with? Brown? So

705
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: so so so I want to say Foxy Brown, I

706
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: got crazy Foxy Brown stories. But um, I had the

707
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: pleasure working with both Foxy Brown and Little Kim. When

708
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: I when I when I, when I left violated and

709
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: I left Motown and I left all that stuff. I

710
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: ended up um doing an independent situation with Little Kim

711
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: that ended up in court. No I had raised, had

712
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: raised three million dollars and signed Little Kim independently. So

713
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: if you remember the record that she put out with

714
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: t Paying called Download Right, Um, that was on a

715
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: record company that me and Torone from Track Masses Tony

716
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: popem track Masses created together called Brooklyn and we signed

717
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Little Kim independently, and we was trying to do the

718
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: whole we had. Yeah, we had a studio in Jersey

719
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: and um we um. We ended up in court because

720
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Little Kim decided to fall in love, like she started

721
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: hanging out with um a Con and White Cleft, and

722
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: she wanted to make more worldly music and she wanted

723
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: to start like we we we spent like five hundred

724
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: thousand and in the middle of it, she decided she

725
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: wants to start using a voice box auto tune, and

726
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: and we weren't feeling the creativity of it, and so

727
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: it was a dead locking recording. But this wasn't like

728
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: record company um. This wasn't record company um money. This

729
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: was out of pocket money. And so we had to

730
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: figure out out so that I actually ended up in court.

731
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Kim is still my dog to this day, and I

732
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: love her to death, but so she between and I

733
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: don't and I hate to do this to the females

734
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: like because um that's not the case, because I've had

735
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: good females, like I worked with Justine Sky, and I

736
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: worked with so many different dope females, but the two

737
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: most difficult artists that I've ever worked with my life

738
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: were between the combination of five. There was a time

739
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Foxing and Who foxing Little Kim. There was a time

740
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: when Lior We brought leorder Brooklyn to do with Thelma

741
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: and Louise album with Little Kim and Foxy Brown happened.

742
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: I always wanted the album was the same one of

743
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: the week. I always wanted the album to happen. And

744
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: Leor offered Foxy a million dollars Evans in their pocket

745
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: and Little Kim a million dollars advancing your pocket. This

746
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: is when a million dollars was a million. Million dollars

747
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: was like million dollars and um, Foxy. We were in

748
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: a nail salon, Asian nail salon in Brooklyn where Or

749
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: convinced Foxy to do it, and Foxy was like, the

750
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: only way I'm gonna do it, we gotta get on

751
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: the phone and hash out our differences. They get on

752
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: the phone and it became but yeah, but you said this,

753
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: but yeah you said this, but yeah, no, fucking bitchy

754
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: funyall never do the record. Yeah, all of that sh

755
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: out the window and that black yes and that stopped everything.

756
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: When that, when I tell you, it was so many

757
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: people who was in the circle because remember that so

758
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: was that prior to that source couver or that was

759
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: that that was prior to that, That was prior to

760
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: that happened. So now people are actually thinking that they're

761
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna get a problem. Let me, I went to a

762
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: nightclub before Foxing Brown got before Foxing Little Kim got popular.

763
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: All three of us one night went out and we

764
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: couldn't get into a nightclub because nobody knew either one

765
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: of them. When you Foxy and maybe a Little Kim

766
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: went out one night to the city to try and

767
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: get into the Cloudy. They were cool. They were they

768
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: were really good friends prior to them getting hot, and

769
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: we couldn't get into a nightclub because nobody knew either

770
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: one of them at that time. They were they were tight,

771
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: like imagine because Kim wasn't already with Junior. It wasn't

772
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: hot yet. This was probably this was when we were

773
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: all trying to get in. Right. You gotta remember he's

774
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: right because Biggie and Nas were so hot that time

775
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: that that that that that Little Kim and Foxy was

776
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: just just my association and it was, but it was

777
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: like nobody knew him publicly exactly, and so this was

778
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: before jay Z came in Foxy's life, and you know,

779
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Kim was down with Big, but she didn't get on

780
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: the wreckage yet, so nobody knew who they were and

781
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: they were tight like like. But when the money came

782
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: and the competition came, and it was like Big was like, no,

783
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I got let me do this because you got you

784
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: guys are from Brooklyn. It was it a territorial thing

785
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: that made it was. It was just it was a

786
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: female poolitician thing where Big was not letting Fox, I mean,

787
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: was not letting little Kim get bodied by Fox and

788
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: fix and we was damn sure not letting Fox get

789
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: body by Kim, like that ship wasn't happening. And keep

790
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: a G with you, Fox was inking her own ship.

791
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: Fox wrote her own verse on two Keys when I

792
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: on I Shot Your She wrote her own verse on

793
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: Ain't No with jay Z. She wrote keep it G

794
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: with You that wrote I'm gonna take you back. She

795
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: dropped that verse on a Smooth the Hustler record and

796
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: took it off and dropped it on she took it

797
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: from us. But did that record come out never came

798
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: out Smooth the Hustle. It was like, Yo, I gotta

799
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: give you another smooth and trigger. The gambling we're going

800
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: and alias christ as well and alias crist stories is crazy.

801
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: But and and and that record that verse went on

802
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: ain't no and that and and the animosity, the competition

803
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: between them just wouldn't allow him to be cool no

804
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: more because they because it was it was always conditioned

805
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: that could only be one female? Did they each other

806
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: before making records at all? Wait, before they knew each other?

807
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: With all grew up in downtown Brooklyn, all of us.

808
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy, like me and Little Kim and Big with

809
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: the Queen of All Saints together in third grade. But

810
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: that's not dumb, both right, Let's be no, that's that's

811
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: like Clinton Hill's nut. Can we talk about though, how

812
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: the female rap sh it is now? Because we're so

813
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: body all, y'all, we're so allio, how do you know

814
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: about that? I didn't up dream Doll. I said that

815
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: that the new record she got out with, What's What's

816
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Who's the girl? Who's the girl? That downtea? Let me

817
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: be creed, let me be clear. Dream Dog has been

818
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: body and ship since Tory Lanes called her. I don't

819
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: know what the fun Tory Lane did to huh. But

820
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: ever since then, she's been tearing down everything that she's

821
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: been on and I want to pick up. I want

822
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: to pick up because that ship is remarkable, what she's

823
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: doing on. And the thing is, it's crazy because when

824
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: I say that, I'll post it like YO, know what

825
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 1: we're trying to suck up. That's why I'm in love.

826
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: I love my wife, Like why can't I love a female?

827
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: I love? I love fucking little Kim. I love fucking

828
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: NICKI Mina. I love Like if I say that, and

829
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: if people thinking like, that's whack, I don't like that.

830
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I'm very I'm a d right now,

831
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: people wouldn't be like, oh, slim people can't men and

832
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: women can have platonic supertonic. I have no. I don't

833
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: want her to do a record with me. I mean

834
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: maybe eventually, but that's not my my intent right now.

835
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that. I'm just growth I'm looking at that.

836
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at her like, how look at Kim? How

837
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: look at I'm Nicky? How look at John Dog? Has

838
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: she came on up and hip hop? I ain't know

839
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: before that she did Bad Girls Club. Let's go back.

840
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that girls, Okay, I'm she had, Yeah,

841
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: she she had. You know, sometimes depending on the reality show,

842
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: sometimes people have a introduction that they're not always happy with. Um,

843
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, and that was something for her. Um, she

844
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: wanted to love in hip hop. I didn't work that

845
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: that season she was on. There was already Miami. But

846
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: she you know, she again, she had a plan. She

847
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: came in, she did what she needed to do, and

848
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: now I mean she's signed to our c A through

849
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Johnny. Start out, you talk about the exacts that

850
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: are amazing. You said, dream doll I'm seeing what I say. Yes,

851
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm seeing what dream dollars doing own right like when

852
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: I see her. But I'm like, that's the next female,

853
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: that's the next one. Like she she's working on stopped

854
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: like a lot of she got the record. Do you

855
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: know we did you only all? And she and she

856
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: did it right like when you from all before the

857
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: way she vocaled it, she vocal right, shout out to

858
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: DJ self, shout out to Amber Raven now shout dud

859
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: self sound yeah, but shout out to forget like Rahapsody. Absolutely,

860
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying right now, Dreams, I'm just saying there's so

861
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: many layers of it's not just one one style many

862
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: that was everything to me. That was the everyways wors

863
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: that's not from New York. You don't understand what she said.

864
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: That's the point where you where I'm t because that

865
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: really is gonna cost That's the point because that record

866
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: is gonna go and then everybody's gonna be like, but wait,

867
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna realize that that's a New York saying

868
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna bring some energy back to New York. And

869
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: I love that females. I love you know what. Goddamnit,

870
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: I love that females. You know that didn't but I

871
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: didn't know how from Bad Girls Club. I didn't know

872
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: how from I knew I met her from Loving hip

873
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: Hop because you work for them, bro, let's just got

874
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: to be a check. You know. I've always called him

875
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: and he's done New York for me and the special

876
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: stuff he's in Miami for me. I'm like, can we

877
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: come up with produce these segments to get in both

878
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: of you? I've always supported and let me just you

879
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: don't gotta give me no cheat notes because I know everything.

880
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: You know everything, I really I really think and you

881
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: know what, James, I agree what you said. I agree

882
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: with you, Chaid, I agree with what you said. But

883
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: also know you guys ain't watching this many episodes as

884
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: I watched the first two seasons in New York, and

885
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: then I ain't got a lot of it, and and

886
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: only because of I grew up with Nico. So I

887
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: watched Atlanta. Okay, you know the guy who did the sex.

888
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: I think what happened is that the men were a man,

889
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: that the stories were finally being told. I think the

890
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: men that have been in the industry for all this

891
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: time where man Dad was finally getting I just like

892
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: you said, generation behind us. We have a generation of

893
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: the waters and children got are engaged with the platform

894
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: with love him. So I'm there watching that, I mean

895
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: with certain audience. I said, hold, let me just you

896
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: gotta understand he's different. Now, yes, yeah, you know, he's gone.

897
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm having different. But you go to Instagram, c J. Wolf.

898
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: What they're saying, that's my nephew. What they're saying, No

899
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: matter what's happened, what they're saying, what they're saying, what

900
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: were they get you're talking about. I'm not going to

901
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: promote girl. I'm not getting songing my kids and then

902
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: whatever that thing is called, it's still but nobody, nobody's

903
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: saying anything against that. What I'm saying, this is my thing,

904
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: is that people talk all this stuff about reality television.

905
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here talking anything about that funk with

906
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: that rap. I'm that I'm a hood bitch. I love

907
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: that ship. But don't sit here executives and managers that

908
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: come and talk to me about downgrading loving hip hop?

909
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: What the because you guys find we are talking about

910
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: reality that the visual is you guys talking about. But

911
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm what you all loving hip hop? I personally am

912
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: not somebody who watches reality TV like that. Like personally,

913
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying things. Let me take this direct me.

914
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: Mona Scott is an incredibly talented, super smart and dedicated woman.

915
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: Forget executive, your taste change. I don't like tag your

916
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: like Rolex, I don't like Phillies. I smoke AVO, right, okay,

917
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: your taste change not money must taste Okay, I don't

918
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: like Alright, let's let's taste change. I love what monas doing.

919
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: I love what they love hip hop. I love what

920
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: the team. I love it how they're growing their brands

921
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: and creating their verticals. I don't like is having to

922
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: not answer, but have to rebut certain assumptions that are

923
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: made for the people that don't come from where we

924
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: come from and block our progress as a community because

925
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: of their perception of what they see on TV. That's

926
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: what I don't like. I mean, it's not that I

927
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: don't like love and hip hop, is I don't like

928
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: walking into a room and having people assume we having

929
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: people assume a certain way of action, a certain way

930
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: of being, in a sertain way of upbringing that positions

931
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: us and lessons our value as human beings, not as

932
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: executives human beings. That's what I don't like. You know what,

933
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: I would champion love and hip hop our champion, You,

934
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: our champing champion everybody, because ain't nobody's going to talk

935
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: about this thing that nobody's gonna talk about this thing

936
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: I love called hip hop. We built this ship and

937
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna But you can't say certain these are stories

938
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: that are segmented in a certain culture community that we

939
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: we understand, that we understand that westand to what they

940
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: think that way. We give too much to what they think.

941
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: Somebody comes in here and say if somebody comes in

942
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: my face and says it every nixt is for the ship. Okay, Okay,

943
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna say, that's my man. When

944
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about in front of me number two,

945
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: he's not fill the ship because I know the real

946
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: every Knicks. I don't care who it is, because that's

947
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: what's called loyalty. You ain't gonna talk about me, my people,

948
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: my friends, on my community in my face and not

949
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: get rebuttant and not with you. But what I'm saying

950
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: to you is that Eric Knicks don't give a funk

951
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: about that Parson. No, you don't, but I do. That's

952
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: the That's because that person is gonna get everything that

953
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: movie he wants. So but listen to me, that person

954
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: is gonna that person is gonna give me that movie.

955
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: As I have the movie that he wants. You gotta

956
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: hit in the door. Fer that person is gonna let

957
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: you in the door, and then you're gonna deliver that movie.

958
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. When you get to the door,

959
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: not for the past few years, but you get to

960
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: the door, knot door when you're not kicking doors in general.

961
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: The Colt the community. We have knocked in doors. And

962
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: I was super with Eric when he said that people

963
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: come to you when they want something from you. They

964
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: understand what our valley. Now it's our turn to understand

965
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: business and and our turn to sit in those tables

966
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: and understand what equity means, and understand what ownership means,

967
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: and educate ourselves, because what happens a lot of times

968
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: we come into a room and what happens that we

969
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: automatically we don't understand the business behind it started. It's

970
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: all turned now. Can't understand you're giving to me that

971
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: I can't prove it, but we're just getting in that door. Now.

972
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: You got understand I've been knocking on that door since

973
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety you've done, but wait talking about me, thank you.

974
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: I've been knocking on their doors since nineteen ninety four.

975
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: Chris Ldy and I were knocking on that door in

976
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. Puff Daddy and I were knocking on

977
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: that door in nine six when nobody wanted to let

978
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: us in no doubt, So you know what you damn right.

979
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: I gotta chip on my shoulder and I wear my

980
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: heart on my sleep because ain't nobody going to shoot

981
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: on me. What are you doing now? It's not about shooting.

982
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: It's about understanding and paying it forward and sitting in

983
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: those rooms and now helping build up your Peenis happen

984
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: on the shoulder is not? I just want to have

985
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: a shot shot, have a chip on my shoulder at

986
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: this sec because you wouldn't even know I had a

987
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: problem in that room. Don't get it twisted. First of

988
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: first off, I don't get that twisted. For you, for

989
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: what you do and and and for you to keep

990
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: that whole ship together and doing what you're doing deserves

991
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: a lot of prices. So you know what, I don't

992
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: think it has anything to do with the show. This

993
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: is how much I love you and I love this show. Well,

994
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: he loves the show. I love's like she come to Miami,

995
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: me and my wife we hang out like, but when

996
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: I when I see like the behind the scenes ship

997
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: and she comes and she fixes it, and I'll be like,

998
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: it makes you fix up, I'd be like screaming of

999
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: the screen, like, and she's be likes, gotta come back

1000
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: in and let me see you. It's the only time

1001
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: you're on camera, But it's not when you fix the situation.

1002
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: Not just to head. I think I think this is

1003
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: maybe a layman's way of explaining what I think we're

1004
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: trying to say. There's the micro and there's the mac.

1005
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: On the micro level, nothing's wrong, we're doing business, we're

1006
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: making money. On a macro level, what is it doing

1007
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: for the culture. But I think that's what we're kind

1008
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: of talking you right on point. But but but but

1009
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: the culture, the culture never dictated the situation. It was

1010
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: always the environment that came from the hood that dictated

1011
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: the culture. But let's think about it's always been the round,

1012
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: has always been the face in the industry. Industry and

1013
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: and and the way you found revenue in finance and

1014
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: monetize things is what always sunked up the culture. Right.

1015
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: But but to your point, the macro level, it's not

1016
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: just love and hip hop. No, it's not. It's not

1017
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: it's not just it's not just narc Everybody at this

1018
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: table not just possible that. My only thing is it's not.

1019
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: It's not And I'm not again, my my reaction is

1020
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: just a matter of talking to my brothers in the

1021
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: same to me, But my thing is is that I

1022
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: have conversations a lot with the executives and the music people,

1023
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: and they're sitting here talking and bring down reality television.

1024
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: But you guys are promoting crazier ship than what the show.

1025
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: And these shows are only there because of the history

1026
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: with these relationships in this business. So then and so

1027
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: if you want to see better, you do better. So

1028
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: if you want to see better on television, you want

1029
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: to see better in certain communities, then you be Then

1030
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: you're part of that change. Don't talk about it without

1031
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: being a part of it. That's all I'm saying. But

1032
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: hold up, and you cannot expect to have this diet

1033
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: that you eat and vomit something else. This is what

1034
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: this This is what these people live from the video

1035
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: to love and hip hop. This is this is what

1036
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: we live. So if this is a diet that's sad,

1037
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna come out when the

1038
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: cameras come? Depends is what comes first? The chicken or

1039
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: the egg? Right? What do you mean? You don't know? What? What?

1040
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: What one know? What ended up? What? Hold What I'm

1041
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: saying to you is that if if regardless of what

1042
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: happened you, if I live in the hood, I see

1043
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: hood ship all day, I see Mercedes in the projects,

1044
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: I see people getting stuck up. I see drug deals,

1045
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: I see girls working and stripping and all that. When

1046
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: I get to the recording studio, what am I rapping about? Absolutely? Okay,

1047
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: so this is the diet that I said because I

1048
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: want to. But but what was it? What was the

1049
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: diet that in the early to mid nineties, late eighties,

1050
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: the diet that we were trying to get and we

1051
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: were all trying to become vegan, we were all trying

1052
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: to become we were all trying to be revolutionary, we

1053
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: were all trying to become more intelligent. And then that

1054
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 1: ship just went. Industry made money, and then the money

1055
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: the industry that's not a part of the culture, to

1056
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: control of it, hijack the culture. And I'm sorry, it's

1057
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: not true. I'm sorry it's not I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1058
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: That's not true. I'm sorry, that's not true. What happens

1059
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: in the hood has always spilled over into the recording studio.

1060
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: From slave to the music industry and from music from

1061
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: from the sling, from from from what we wear, from

1062
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: from from what they from from the South to the Midwest.

1063
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: From you listen to nipsies music, you listen to the

1064
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: game's music, you go down South, you listen to t I.

1065
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: You listen, it's always been what they got from the hood.

1066
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that there wasn't a different trajectory

1067
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: at one point, even if even if you had certain culture,

1068
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: even if you had certain but there was like a movement.

1069
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: No if you if you catch Okay, let's let's take

1070
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: a public enemy for a moment, right, you take a

1071
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: public enemy who's red hot, but they're they're more political

1072
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: than anything. Then what you're gonna have. What you what

1073
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: you end up doing is you have the record companies,

1074
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: who what more public enemy because they because again because

1075
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: again they some of the people who are running the

1076
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: record companies are inside the record companies don't really know,

1077
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: don't really live inside the culture. So until they started

1078
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: to hire the people who lived in the culture and

1079
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: understand the culture. But you can also sit at the boardroom,

1080
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: then you understood. So a record like with Dream Dog

1081
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: Makes is like that's Hood slaves. You listen to the music,

1082
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: you listen to her lyrics. It all derived from what

1083
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: the Hood is doing, right, and the music has never

1084
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: dictated what the Hood does. The Hood always dictated what

1085
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: the music does. And then infiltrates out across the nation,

1086
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: and that's the that's the that's the system. So we

1087
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: always have to allow for Cardi B and for making

1088
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: the Stallion to make the music that they want to make.

1089
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: We always have to It goes back to the balance.

1090
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: We all, that's what you sign, but then you also

1091
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: have to allow the the people who are loving hip

1092
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: hop to tell their true stories. You can't make them.

1093
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: I've never ever signed an artist and said I want

1094
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: you to be this. I always said, listen, tell me

1095
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: your story and I will help our ticket and I

1096
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: will help you make it bigger. But I never changed

1097
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: the story. My job is not to change the story.

1098
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: Her job is not to go and live in hip

1099
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: hop and tell the tell the tell the girl to

1100
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: do something different or to be different because we're trying. No.

1101
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: Her job is to turn the cameras on, find the

1102
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: stars that that will garner the attention, turn the cameras on,

1103
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: and make it bigger. That's how all jobs at the story.

1104
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: We're missing. The story is not even change. I look,

1105
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm black. I'm glad how came is at the table

1106
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: because we have this discussion. We have this discussion consistently

1107
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: over the phone we build with each other on a

1108
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: regular basis. The story is never going to change until

1109
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: you change the diet. That is fair. You're not gonna

1110
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: You're not going to get these kids to miraculously start

1111
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: talking about great things. That's gonna that's gonna represent you

1112
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: in the boardroom because they are living in poverty, poverty

1113
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: stricken neighborhoods that come from a place where they don't

1114
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: have to say one thing to say. This is my

1115
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: one thing to say right now. This is a beautiful conversation,

1116
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: no doubt, by the way, But you know the one

1117
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: thing I gotta say. This is a brother that I

1118
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: respect right here, Brother I appreciate right here, and I

1119
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: just feel like he has a few on this conversation.

1120
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: I just really want to just give it to you

1121
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: at this point, at this point, and I'm we're gonna

1122
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: follow your league at this point. It's not even about

1123
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: my leave. But I'm appreciate that. Thank everybody gonna here

1124
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 1: and appreciate you for having me. Um. I'm all the

1125
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: way into or what DJ is saying. Not that I'm

1126
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: disagreeing with nobody else, but I think it's just one

1127
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: element that I'm not hearing that I want to hear

1128
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: and then just reiterate what that's basically what he's saying

1129
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: is about. You know, what happened to the days of

1130
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: old when there was when there was a balance, when

1131
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: we had poor righteous teachers over here and n w

1132
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: A over there. Right, So so what happened now, in

1133
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: my opinion, just my opinion, what happened is the game

1134
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: changed too. This is what you gotta do in order

1135
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: to make money, the poor writers teachers. The door got

1136
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: closed on that public enemy. The door got closed on

1137
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: that conscious wrapped. The door got closed on that right

1138
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: it exists. Somehow, somehow the story got paint or the

1139
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: picture got painted that all rappers that come from the

1140
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: hood only know about hood shape, and that's false. Than

1141
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: that's a false narrative. We got kids in the hood

1142
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: that don't know about that ship, that don't want to

1143
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: talk about it, that don't live it, don't believe in it.

1144
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: They want to look at the kid who the little

1145
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: kid that I want to live. He don't want to

1146
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: talk about no dope. But kids like that they get

1147
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: a little break people platforms. The door get closed. What

1148
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: the dude that's talking about the dope? What the dude,

1149
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about the bitches. He's gotta being started. You

1150
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. Still gotta being started. But you

1151
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: gotta be a star. But we just you can't. You can't,

1152
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: you can't. Just people have what happened is it's just

1153
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: it's just let's get to that. It's it's just people.

1154
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: I think personally, I just think a lot of the

1155
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: narrative changed to this is the only way you can

1156
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: get money. So even if somebody didn't want to go

1157
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: in there and wrapping about guns and bitches and holes,

1158
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: they feel like, this is what I gotta talk about

1159
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: in order to get paid. Because I'm trying only get

1160
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: my mom a new house, so I think how you're

1161
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. Narrative was changed, and people followed Cancer

1162
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar two of the biggest rappers out right now.

1163
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: The industry is not searching for exactly, searching for the industry,

1164
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: searching for stars. The industry searchers for the money. Industry

1165
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: searching for star who's gonna push the nur. No, he's

1166
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: the one thing. Let me the best teacher. Let me

1167
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: ask you a question, and I want you to be

1168
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: a thousand percent honest, every artist that's getting money, you're

1169
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell men they all stars. No, yes, no, no,

1170
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: that that's not the marketing. Two things, they got good marketing.

1171
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of wrappers. Can I say two things.

1172
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: One thing is there is a such thing called cool

1173
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: cool music like cool new music is an actually genre

1174
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: of music that was creating in the late eighteen hundreds,

1175
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: pulled out first boxler be a record, which is where

1176
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: we get um the ice cream jinger music. Shot. If

1177
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: there was a shot music that was looking on the

1178
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: board and then it was cool, it's called coon music music.

1179
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: It's a whole shot cruise with Terry Goose come from

1180
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: well he Carnson. Excuse me, Terry Coose out his Carnegie

1181
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: Woodson cools. You see he made a whole cool Yeah,

1182
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 1: he's cool. You ain't seen this same He's still he's confused.

1183
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: That's a og O G. Listen. He made an acronym

1184
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: to make cool cool cool. I've been seeing him like

1185
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: you see that. I didn't see that. I just skirted

1186
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: him getting shoot up different. He made an actual acronym.

1187
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: It's that cool cool or whatever and made something Terry

1188
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: he made keep it keep going. He wants. In the

1189
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: book Miseducation, the Negro said that we've effectively created a slave.

1190
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell him to go to the

1191
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: back door. He'll go to the back door without you

1192
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: telling him to. And if there is no back door,

1193
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: he'll create one for himself. That's what we find ourselves

1194
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: in entertainment right now, is that we've created the back door.

1195
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: If you want to get in the house, you gotta

1196
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: go around the back door. And that means you have

1197
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: to devalue yourself. You have to, you know, you have to.

1198
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: You have to shame yourself. You have to tear that

1199
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: yourself image so us as a people can get access

1200
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: to the house by these individuals. That that man, I

1201
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: just disagree with that. It's a survival mechanism. We sold,

1202
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: we sold drugs. The girls stripped, the girls stripped the girl.

1203
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: We robbed, we robbed, We've done everything. But now you

1204
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: that's not only what I'm trying to explain to you

1205
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: that of a dort MC comes to me wrapping. You

1206
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 1: have morals, you have but don't code. But if you

1207
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: find if you find let's let's say we find Brooklyn Johnny, Right,

1208
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: we find Brooklyn Johnny I don't m C. If a

1209
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: don't MC that comes to Brooklyn Johnny, don't now Now

1210
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: is a difference in the narrative being different and dope. Right.

1211
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: If if that dope m C finds Brooklyn Johnny and

1212
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Johnny goes damn, it's just as different. He's gonna

1213
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: sign that artists as well. There's not a system that

1214
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: says in the music industry that if you're not rapping

1215
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: about degrading the urban culture, of degrading women or being

1216
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: fucked up, we're not signing you. That's this never told story.

1217
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: He's making a super great point, but it's not one

1218
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: more second. I want you to listen to him what

1219
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: he just said, because a lot of people can't answer

1220
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: that directly. I will, okay, okay. So I took a

1221
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: meeting at Death Jam seven me and Toughiest Channel Live right,

1222
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: and we had this nice demos after Capital, after Mattis,

1223
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to downside of Mattis. I'm trying to find

1224
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: out place we take a meeting with I'm not gonna

1225
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: name the person, but we take a meeting with this person.

1226
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: We named person's head top moscots take and I played

1227
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: him the demo at death. Why he's a lawyer? Why

1228
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: are you meeting with him? Okay, forget it, gut, because

1229
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: I left your office and time were playing for Todd.

1230
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: We're playing for Todd. We playing for Todd. Times like, Yo,

1231
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: this ship is hot. I like this. I didn't. But

1232
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: you're not locking down the block. You're not okay street

1233
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: enough And I understand that, right, So that's like, okay,

1234
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: what does that mean? And we take the same project,

1235
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: well not the same project, but we took called Tomas

1236
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: who's owing this project? It's a bad boy and for

1237
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: some reason it could get hurt there. Okay, I'm gonna

1238
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: tell you why. But not, I'm gonna tell you why.

1239
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. No disrespect to Todd. My schools,

1240
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: but Todd, my schools don't represent our culture, whereas did he,

1241
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: the ultimate decision maker, does so he can he can

1242
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: acknowledge this kid is a star, and I can make

1243
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: this with this music and this subject matter, whereas Todd

1244
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: only believes that it has to be one way and

1245
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: and and he's trying to duplicate what's already out there,

1246
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: Whereas did he's trying to move the culture forward and

1247
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: that's how come you have a whole thing of moving

1248
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: the culture forward. So if you come to me or

1249
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: anybody else, go to any art artist that understands our culture,

1250
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: the understands the culture. With a conscious rapper or political rapper,

1251
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: that's don't and it's a star. That kid is gonna

1252
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: get signed and gonna get put and if he has

1253
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: a hit record, because that to get it because at

1254
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's music business, and that's

1255
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: the I just sent you a text. Are we talking

1256
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 1: about hip hop culture or are we talking about the music?

1257
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: They were talking about the music when we keep going

1258
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: the culture. Somebody talk sometime was a gate and I'm

1259
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: mad at that. I'm not mad at that because Todd

1260
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: was a gate Like what Eric said, why are you

1261
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: meeting with Tom? He was a lawyer. It was there

1262
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: were a lot of people that were in the game

1263
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: that were perpetrating their ship was more important than it

1264
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: really was. And the real gatekeepers that were they had

1265
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: the puffs, the visionaries, the Steve Rifkins, those the Christian

1266
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: they wanted pushed the culture forward. They didn't have number

1267
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: one time a lot of time because they were a

1268
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: lot of things. But they also we're allowing other people

1269
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: to be a gatekeeper to get to that got to

1270
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: go through the level, and those levels were wrong. Okay,

1271
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I understand that. I want the years

1272
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: of the talk. I mean once once, once, once he

1273
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: like broke it all the way down. I see where

1274
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: he's coming from. But like he went exactly where we

1275
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: thought he was going. It's the music business, and when

1276
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 1: you're doing business, no feelings are involved, no emotional evolved,

1277
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: whereas this side of the room is more connected to

1278
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: the culture. James is connected to the culture. It's the

1279
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: morality of it. We go back to. Okay, all the

1280
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: narratives we live by all money ain't good money. What's

1281
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: under still don't need to be explained. So when you say,

1282
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: nobody's in the office gonna say we're not gonna sign you.

1283
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: If you're not talking about this, they don't have to

1284
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: say it. They're just going close to door in your face.

1285
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: If you I'm with the wrong ship. But that's your no.

1286
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: But that's that's the rationale for why they didn't sign you.

1287
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: But no reality and not a sign it not a signing.

1288
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not even talking about an individual

1289
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: signing per se. I'm talking about how the game has like,

1290
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: we don't have what we once had. We have the

1291
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: should be artists. We don't have you here raw talent.

1292
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 1: I know what I know, but I know we don't

1293
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: have to I know, but where doesn't I know? But

1294
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: we're in two thousand twenty and things are moving so fast.

1295
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: Exist Listen, it doesn't matter what I'm trying to explain

1296
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: to the reason why it doesn't exist in twenty years

1297
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: since two thousand is because artists are. There's already an

1298
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: artist is walking in through the door that's ready to go.

1299
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: So where's you need eighteen months and and and and

1300
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: and and for me to shake the dice. And I

1301
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm getting my return, but I know

1302
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: that he's ready to go. I'm going what's ready to go?

1303
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: Ready to go? Business, ready to go basic. No, that's

1304
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: not that we keep hearing people who are talking about business.

1305
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: And you're not wrong. I'm not just great what you're saying,

1306
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:09,520
Speaker 1: But when you close it into cultural conversation, you confuse

1307
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: what you're actually talking about. You're not talking about the

1308
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: culture I am talking about. If you go to the

1309
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: you got to death jam Arista, and you like hip

1310
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: hop culture, in those buildings you're gonna lose. They have

1311
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: a culture that is specifically corporate culture. Yeah, they sell

1312
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: you hip hop dressed merchandise. But the culture in the

1313
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: death building is not to say, cold called culture. Job's

1314
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump out, but this is a drink Champs, right,

1315
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna we lost three very important things in the music.

1316
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: You said one artist development, development, you said another one integrity,

1317
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna saying third morals of course, because let's

1318
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: see how many followers you have. Let's see how many

1319
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: fuse you have. No, I don't need to see that.

1320
01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: When I look in your eyes and fear your energy,

1321
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna know that, and I'm gonna put

1322
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: myself behind you. Right, So we lost that in this game,

1323
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because Nora didn't have an

1324
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: x amount of mini followers, but you don't talent, but

1325
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: you got mess yourself. Why though, because all the major companies,

1326
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: all the major companies are what publicly held company, so

1327
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: they have to so they have to today, so they

1328
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: have to answer to the bean counts every three business.

1329
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: They don't have eighteen months to develop an artist. And

1330
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: when you understand that when the or when death Ja

1331
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: was a boot company, we could take we could take them,

1332
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: say g and develop it over eighteen months. I don't

1333
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: want to say, but I don't say it time and

1334
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: just not just a disorder in the court because it's

1335
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: just the decision makers, it's also the viewer. Because the

1336
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: greatest mean that I saw over the last two years

1337
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: that hit me in my gut, did Takashi stick to

1338
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: the code? The real fourteen year old what no to me?

1339
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: To me, Michael said to me, what code do they need?

1340
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Did Takashi stick to the code? And these kids that

1341
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: are listening and consuming code and ain't talking about because

1342
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: we have not instilled that code into our listen, into

1343
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: our viewer. We have not instilled that code into the

1344
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: next generation. And one thing about this conversation and the

1345
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: question I just wanted to ask that if the dispute

1346
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: is about you know, the raw talent, right, and we're

1347
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: talking about how it used to be versuit versus what

1348
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: it is now, And we go to the charts. Out

1349
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: of the top twenty rap songs, how many of them

1350
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: are not talking about ship that people consider negative. No,

1351
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: everybody is everybody is that's the that's a problem. No,

1352
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: but but but but the problem is that the conscious

1353
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: rap is not where the kids are at right now.

1354
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: But they're not happen. Let me have this happen because

1355
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Man, you can't say that's what's happening,

1356
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: because that's what's in that's what's happening. That's what SAM talking,

1357
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: that's what's being programmed that, that's what's being programmed. It's

1358
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: no such things. That's all the kids are doing. That's

1359
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: what the funk they're being told. They're being told to

1360
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: do this. That's why this ship is programming, radio programming,

1361
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: television programming. It's why do you call TV programming? That's radiom.

1362
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: Why everybody going with Jerseys the butlers, because because jay

1363
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Z said it, and jay Z to me exactly the

1364
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: Jason said, it's always the biggest artist. If I go,

1365
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: if I come to your block, your piss okay, if

1366
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: I come to you, if I come to your block, right,

1367
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: and I have ten artists, and not of them are

1368
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: the saying and what is different? Hold on, but one

1369
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: is different? Who stands out? I think twenty four hours

1370
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: apiece every year, right, most of the folks something like

1371
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: that to perform gotta dressed it because it's negative. They

1372
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: cursed all thru its that go dressed it up. The

1373
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: one who shines is the one who comes out positive, straight, conscious, right,

1374
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: and it sounds nobles aren't checking for her. No labels,

1375
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: so that labels labels. You know, I guarantee you if

1376
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: that artist has the same criteria is that they are

1377
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: signing the other artists are. Which are the numbers right?

1378
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: So if you get you find up. If you find

1379
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: a positive rat artists or a conscious rap artist that

1380
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: has the numbers and has the following, that kid gets

1381
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: the same shot. My only point is that kid gets

1382
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: the same shot as the shocks, the shock value, the violence,

1383
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: whatever the funk. But really quickly, I'm sorry, sorry, really quick.

1384
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: I said this before on drink jams before, And this

1385
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: is why I say it's our fault, not your fault,

1386
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: power fault, our generations fault, because when hip hop started

1387
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: making real money, we stopped being O g s. We

1388
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: stopped passing down the information. They don't give a funk

1389
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: about how we feel. The younger stop you absolutely, okay,

1390
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: how many how many younger kids, younger kids I'm talking

1391
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: about nineteen eighteen, sixteen year old kids running rather the

1392
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: hood don't respect the work you put it. I'm gonna

1393
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: keep it a hundred thousand with you. That's why my

1394
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: platform pops like it does, because I got nineteen year rolds,

1395
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: because I want to say, even in the hood, I

1396
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: want you, I want you. But but but you understand

1397
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: my question. My question is that the younger kids, you're

1398
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: proven my poem kids today, but you're giving when you

1399
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: just hit me out for a second. The younger kids

1400
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: today don't give a funk about the older because we

1401
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: exactly But I didn't greet up a little cool hurt

1402
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: or Grandmaster Flyer, right, I didn't. I didn't know about them.

1403
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: The guys that I was listening to this is the

1404
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: guy doct architects. And let me tell you why they

1405
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 1: don't respect the older niggas because the older niggas didn't

1406
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: keep up with the times. The older niggas that was

1407
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: in jail hold on when hustling change, when they went

1408
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: from cocaine to digital hustling. Now you got a forty

1409
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 1: five year old nigga coming home from jail and his

1410
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: twenty six year old young boy is driving fandoms and ship. Right,

1411
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: So now twenty five year old forty six years old.

1412
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 1: Now this things don't got no money. He don't know

1413
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: how to hustle, He don't know how to go get

1414
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: to a dollar. So now this lottle nigger that's twenty

1415
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: years younger than him, his big hony, what's up, big Honi?

1416
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: Because he got money. But I think I think we're

1417
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: all the same page. But but along the lines of

1418
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: what you're saying, thought understaying no, Now watch this, if

1419
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: other people had the same narrative that you had about

1420
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: raw talent right and recognize talent, they will be able

1421
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 1: to recognize these kids that's not built for some of

1422
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: the ship they're talking about. That's why Nicks is going

1423
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: to jail. That's why they carrying guns just because they

1424
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: said it in their lyrics. That's why they're doing dope.

1425
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: They're doing this ship because they it's not in them,

1426
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: it's on them. So what they're doing is essentially they're fronting,

1427
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: and they're putting themselves and putting themselves in bad situations.

1428
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 1: Whereas if somebody would have said, if I'm gonna sucker,

1429
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: come around me talking that fly ship I'm gonna see

1430
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: straight through them and tell them fall back, young boy,

1431
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: you buck and that ain't even you. Andy's doing that

1432
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: at that time. That's why the young dream, That's why

1433
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: the young the stuck with me because I keep on

1434
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: them buck with them. But the exact reason why I

1435
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: had you gotta have a serving hold up. But you

1436
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: gotta have a say you got but you gotta have

1437
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: a certain petigree held on. But you gotta have a

1438
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 1: certain predigree to say fall back, young boy, because if not,

1439
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: I got it. But but but there's not so many

1440
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: of you your you you got it too, and I

1441
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: do and I do it. But here's what I'm Here's

1442
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to explain to you. What I'm trying

1443
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: to explain to you is that when you try to

1444
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: give these young kids game today, and I know because

1445
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: my son runs with these young kids. It's a whole

1446
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: slew of young kids. And I'm like, yo, this is

1447
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: what you need to do, and like right, but no,

1448
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: but no, Hella, but certain sax some of those young kids,

1449
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: some of these young kids are sitting there going yo,

1450
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: O GE is hating on me, right, O. G don't

1451
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: understand O, G don't want it o G want us

1452
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: to do it his way. We don't do it that way.

1453
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: No more. Right, that's because that's when you stop talking

1454
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: to him, because you're talking at that's and it's a teacher, right.

1455
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: I would like you, I'm so sorry, but but you're

1456
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: right because sometimes when they're coming to talking to them

1457
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: and talking about it, take it from there. No, I mean,

1458
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: because that's that's a that's a large part of the problem.

1459
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Older dudes don't know how to communicate. So when you're

1460
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: talking to young dudes, and this goes to having young

1461
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: dudes under you, This goes to parenting, this goes to

1462
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: teach like, you have to talk to people. Kids are

1463
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: not fucking walls and just talk to them how you

1464
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 1: want to. You have to communicate, you have to talk

1465
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: to them. And I add them because that's when all

1466
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: of that rebellions start. That's when it that's when it

1467
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: turns into man, you, oh, you don't know what the

1468
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: funk you're talking about, versus listen, I know what you're doing,

1469
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what holds that one of the

1470
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: eller ships And I know where you're going. I see

1471
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 1: where you're going to read your mind's navigationals. I read

1472
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: your mind's navigational system. I see where you're going. I

1473
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: did this ship. But it's a way to say it

1474
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: that that it don't sound like you when your mom

1475
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: said it. I've been there and I've done that. That's

1476
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: not gonna get it. But when you have a conversation,

1477
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: I do this ship every day on this Instagram live.

1478
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: I've been on this ship every single day since May,

1479
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: two times of sixteen every day. Now I'm about to

1480
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 1: miss my live because I'm here right now, but it's cool.

1481
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: I'll catch up later. What I'm saying is that consistency,

1482
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: that dedication, that talking the same ship every day and

1483
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 1: talking to them in their language. It's why a woman

1484
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: can get on my live and say, I want you

1485
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: to meet my eleving year old son, because every time

1486
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm on your live, he's listening and he wanted to

1487
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: meet you because he respects you eleven because I talked

1488
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: to these people. Man, when you when you get to

1489
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: talking that old ship and you're broke, they're not listening

1490
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: to that ship you got to talk to and you

1491
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: keep saying today these kids, I feel personally that it

1492
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 1: goes beyond this generation right now, and that there's a

1493
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: domino effect right and there's the dominance goes back a

1494
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: little bit. And that's what we need to understand. You

1495
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: keep saying right now. Of course, right now, what you're

1496
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: saying makes total sense, but it goes beyond right now.

1497
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: We have to identify the source. That's what I'm saying.

1498
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: And you also motivational factors, because that's what a lot

1499
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: of people don't even get into. Some motivational factor for

1500
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: this girl to do what she's doing, with this kid

1501
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: to say what he's saying, or this one too join

1502
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: this environment, this one to get into this. I got

1503
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old nephew, my blood. He's got

1504
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: a record topic right now called RUTI in New York City.

1505
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: It's my nephew. Get away from that, take that red off,

1506
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: stop doing this, stop doing that, put your money into this,

1507
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: put your money into that. And they're starting to listen.

1508
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: So there is change. They're starting to You know why.

1509
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: That's because they saw in the last generation and they

1510
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: saw how that fell apart. Because these kids don't own anything.

1511
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: They're using ubers, they're taking their use airbnbs. They don't

1512
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: understand ownership. The independent artists is starting to understand ownership.

1513
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: So it is changing, but there's more change that needs

1514
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: to be done because it's a cultural exclusion that's happening

1515
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: because that Todd Moscow it has been moved out of

1516
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: the way because there's a streaming service that takes away

1517
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: all of that. How could be the artist actually the boss?

1518
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: And it makes the artist's possible. Talking about accountability and

1519
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: talked about vulnerability because vulnerability because you do this ship

1520
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: the wrong way, you're gonna mess up an accountability because

1521
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: you have to get your U r L, you have

1522
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: to get your swipe up, you have to get everything

1523
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: done so it becomes accountable. But you know what, we

1524
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: were the one who had to tell you guys how

1525
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,520
Speaker 1: to be accountable. You said you didn't know about investments,

1526
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: that it was our job to do that. It's still

1527
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: our jobs. You we're still here. So who probably rebuke

1528
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: to violated? Why don't about that? Didn't come to violator? Violated?

1529
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: What your rebounding? I said, you're missing it, missing the wave.

1530
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson was signed to rebound Why Alan Obvioson was

1531
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: going to be a Jordan ballplayer. Alan obviously said, why

1532
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: should I sign to your company? There ain't nobody that

1533
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: looked like me, won't like me talk like me. It

1534
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: comes where I come from. In this company, Rebound created

1535
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: a team called the Drop Squad. Draft Squall was run

1536
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: by Q Gaskins, James Cruz, Rob Pervy and a few

1537
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: other individuals and Dormer Great like I hate threw yourself

1538
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: in there very lightly. That's where it was. So now

1539
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: we have the Drop Squad. Allen Avison signs a lifetime

1540
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 1: deal to Rebob has never thought of before. Gaskins becomes

1541
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: his head of marketing on his hip like and all

1542
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: with to an artist lifetime though lifetime deal. He gets

1543
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: paid the first lifetime or his first ever lifetime dealing

1544
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: with Jordan had the first lifetime lifetime deal was an

1545
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: ownership deal Different bogame, there's a lifetime deal with Different Alright.

1546
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I remember I went from a blood to a crib.

1547
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: I was rebuked. I still do Jordan to this day,

1548
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: for seventeen years doing more. So let's be clear. Steve

1549
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 1: Stout to Genius signs jay Z to a deal with Rebob.

1550
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: Jay Z puts out the Gucci speaker. Remember that, Yeah,

1551
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: sold that in one weekend three days, sold out all

1552
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: the shoes, Rebox Own Opportunity, Paul Fireman, the President Rebob says, wait,

1553
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: we gotta do this more in the urban space, Q

1554
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: Gaskins calls James Cruse and says, hey, hold on, do

1555
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: you see this name? Don't want to do? Don't I

1556
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: told you it sound like one that shoe Counsas's brothers

1557
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: names out. You like my life? You like so now,

1558
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: James Cruiz, is that violated? Q. Gusson's called James Cruiz, Hey,

1559
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: can you help me with this shoe? What shoot as

1560
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: dot Carter? I want to help you with this shoe

1561
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: called the gene Nick the G six G six is

1562
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: didn't existing we go up to me? Did you make

1563
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: that up yourself? No? I didn't make it up. The

1564
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: G the G six was a copy of the shoe

1565
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: we already did for what people don't know. Allen Iverson's

1566
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: first shoe was already for sale. Nobody bought it until

1567
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: we slid his foot in it. Then it went crazy.

1568
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,799
Speaker 1: So it wasn't about design. It was about in doorstad.

1569
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: It was about association. It was about putting the hottest

1570
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: ball player with brains in his shair in front of that.

1571
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 1: So now we go up there, he's locked up. Go

1572
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: to Boston. He keeps saying, light is locked up. I

1573
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: don't know why he can jail for. You know, they

1574
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: were just tied tickets, speeding, dumb stuff. You know what

1575
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He got locked up like that because you

1576
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: want the truth. Yes, Eric knows this to be true,

1577
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: and we could do the research. Somebody went through t

1578
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: s A with something in their back that shouldn't have

1579
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: been in their background mistake. M hm. Did you know

1580
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: the story? Did you know the story? You know the story?

1581
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: The story Chris had a registered weapon in his backpack

1582
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 1: and walked through t s A with it and then

1583
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 1: who and then I had to go answer for it.

1584
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 1: It was legal, it wasn't illegal. I want the truth.

1585
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 1: I want the truth. I don't know who but artists

1586
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: was he with? Chris went through A by self. I

1587
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 1: don't believe you, but I don't believe. I feel like

1588
01:36:54,960 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: it's something else. Did you you want me? You want

1589
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: you want a dollar? Number? Do you want to do number?

1590
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: The first? It was gonna say he grabbed it, rowing

1591
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: back out the Cart's say, did the same thing. It

1592
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: feels like Santanta, because you all Satanta's in jail right

1593
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: now now relaxed. I was going to finish my story.

1594
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: He was in jail right now for that same crime,

1595
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: and now he's just been released. And I don't think

1596
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: Chris would make the same steak. It was what I

1597
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: lied at dead Man, So so what So what I'm

1598
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: trying to say is we should just praise you all,

1599
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 1: Saint Tarota as well, because he made the same I

1600
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: don't think three Williams too Blue you know the manager,

1601
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: yeah podcast, Yeah, from outcast. Yeah, there's this story I

1602
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: did not hear. I think, I think, I don't know, really,

1603
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: I think put his gun in a bag and when

1604
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 1: he went to pack back. Let me be clear, what

1605
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: the fuck is Blue Wheel? She's doing the guy, Chris

1606
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: fucking Lighting doing what the fucking guy? Did you hear?

1607
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: Somebody just grabbed the wrong back up the card? I

1608
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 1: think I said that, so the wrong batty up. Don't

1609
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: believe you being the word bombs. Hip hop artists wasting

1610
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: their money. So we got up to be We had

1611
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: the conversation, we do the deal? Did G six like

1612
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: Chris take the table? We want all the marketing, we

1613
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 1: want the commercials, we want the videos. Secret to the

1614
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: success of the G unit sneaker. We had one million dollars.

1615
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 1: They said one million dollars to try you out. We

1616
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: did the sneaker. We called Jesse Terrero. We wrote the

1617
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: treatment treatment was eye. The Tiger fifty was Mr T

1618
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: working on the dirty as gym. At the end of

1619
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the thing, the kids run up the stairs. He has

1620
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: the vitamin water. Think he's sitting in the mirror like

1621
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: this G six boom. There's only six hundred and seventy

1622
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: five thousand left afters all said and done, that's all

1623
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 1: we have to advertise on television. Where do you advertise?

1624
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Take the number one urban TV show and we owned

1625
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: the BT Awards. Every other commercial was the G six

1626
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: and we sold a hundred and twenty six thousand pairs

1627
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: of sneakers one week, probably sold three points one more.

1628
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm just but the relevance of them

1629
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: trusting us, a public traded company that didn't understand anything

1630
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: about hip hop culture, needed us like Eric Sex, and

1631
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: we delivered. That's the difference. A lot of people take

1632
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 1: the money and don't deliver, no doubt, so you don't

1633
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: get a second chance. We delivered, and we delivered multiplied

1634
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:53,600
Speaker 1: and actually we multiplied, the delivering multiplied, and believe it not,

1635
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: most of the consumers who was buying the G six,

1636
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: when they see other flavors, they didn't determine that that

1637
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 1: wasn't fifty cent ship. So there was just that. But

1638
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 1: what sport by the water? But wait, but what do

1639
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 1: we do? We took the G six and we went

1640
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: on tour called the Rock and Mike Tour with jay Z.

1641
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: What did we bot own the NFL and the NBA?

1642
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: So in every market we wore the jersey and then

1643
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: we change. Yeah, I think I think you talking about

1644
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: I think I think we got to talk about busting

1645
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: around Pastor Cavosier no talking about to do before you

1646
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: get to pass and Mountain give him just here and

1647
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 1: listen out and do giving Buss a bunch of money

1648
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: and drink commercial in the screening parket eighteen wheel Trump

1649
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: in front of Nicole Hotel during the convention playing Blastomers

1650
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: music and putting the commercial out and on top of that,

1651
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: delivering Mountain de refrigerators and soldiers to all the program

1652
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: directors across the country. It sounds like something we know

1653
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: called fine. I don't know who made that noise and

1654
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 1: he when he when he waited, he made past the Cavassier.

1655
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 1: He single handedly saved the company. That one. I gotta

1656
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: correct you on that. He independently saved a whole town

1657
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 1: town of corn yak Front. Friends, what a Chinese embargo place.

1658
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: The whole town kind of had placed in embargo on.

1659
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: Don't mind me right, Capacitor. Cavossier came out like six

1660
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 1: months after this thing happened, so so much alcohol that year.

1661
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 1: It literally saved the entire town. Friends, Now, I learned

1662
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: that from Ozzy Davis and Ruby d to do the math.

1663
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 1: The entire liquor business was down twenty look up, yes, sir,

1664
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: so it was. It was a percent and then we

1665
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: peeked out at like something that but it was up.

1666
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: So the business not gonna la. I'm not gonna you

1667
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 1: know who you know? You know who you Sometimes I'm

1668
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: being honest with you a bet like you will mind

1669
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: me like a young girl chapel right now. The way

1670
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: you do. You know what I'm saying. You get your numbers,

1671
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: your numbers. You know why I said I said, have

1672
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: said bill, because that's just what we're getting those checks.

1673
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm you're getting checks. You guys were playing the numbers.

1674
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean that in the most respect way ever, Like

1675
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: about the more of the story is that that busting

1676
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: that that Cavosi, just like Christal, didn't want to really

1677
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: be associated with didn't want to be associated No, they

1678
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: didn't want it. They didn't want to support, they didn't

1679
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: want to give torso they wanted to see so that

1680
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: wasn't renegotiated that he don't trying to explain it like

1681
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: this is this is all. What I'm trying to explain

1682
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: is that the culture, the business, and then and then

1683
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: it just happens organically. That's when that's when the biggest

1684
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: moves happened when they aren't playing. I'm so sorry, obsiously,

1685
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: because you're talking, you're talking, you're telling me, all right,

1686
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: this is a two part of a story that one

1687
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: parting too much. One part is and we gotta story.

1688
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: Wanted to do it because he wanted to do it,

1689
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, he made the record, made the records. No,

1690
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 1: that's what I'm kind of say. So at some point

1691
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: somebody told him, yo, y'all, they ain't the part of us.

1692
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: So you said, at one point Buster wanted to do it. No,

1693
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 1: they made the made the record. The record came out

1694
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: the record. First First off, First off, the album version

1695
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: of the record isn't the single that forever I listened

1696
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: the album version of the virsion, it's all busted, all Buster.

1697
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: I heard. The single is Forrell Buster and Diddy, right,

1698
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 1: the one that that that saved the town and one

1699
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: that that was up. Yes, But the problem is that,

1700
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: just like Christal, they didn't want to be associated with

1701
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: hip hop culture. Was trying to avoid this story. That's

1702
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:19,799
Speaker 1: why we iterate. But he's going there, let's go there. Continue.

1703
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't even want to give They didn't

1704
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: even want to give tour support a fuck giving him

1705
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the rightful hundred million dollars, which would have been a

1706
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: fraction of what they made, just to secure the rest

1707
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: of his life, because for one record, Buston deserved a

1708
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: hundred million to two hundred million dollars minimum just for

1709
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 1: the impact of what that record did. Maybe we want

1710
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: to drink you know what happen back? Who had the

1711
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: next deal? Who was the first person I had to

1712
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 1: deal with? Patron Paul Mitchell came to us and I

1713
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: didn't missy Elliott at them be awarded the gallant Patron.

1714
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 1: She was supposed to be the next face, but then

1715
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: her numbers because her fan base was too young, couldn't

1716
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: do the deal. So all these all of these rock

1717
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: deals that did he and everybody has this just salut buster.

1718
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm keeping them at the wait a minute, time about this.

1719
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Let's go before that. We gotta say nights as much

1720
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 1: as I don't like to. From a marketing motorspectid thing,

1721
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: no ice cube, ice Cuban, Yeah, yeah, came before that. Yea,

1722
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: the first ever, the first ever sneaker deal in all

1723
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: the hip hoptidas. They didn't do a deal with them,

1724
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: they just had the first ever structure. Again, it was

1725
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: fast method Man met the man, rebought classics. But what

1726
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: have we with, Yester think a deal with Union? Did

1727
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: you hook that up to um? It was really honestly,

1728
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: it was a team of people that really put that

1729
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 1: whole thing together in Paul Fireman, saw the opportunity of

1730
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: Paul Fireman to with the opportunity. And then so Reboud

1731
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:05,799
Speaker 1: too deaders mm hmm. So he rebroke his own, reboked

1732
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: his own purely because of Rich, purely because of Kanye,

1733
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: the playboys, J you had J over here, you have

1734
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: fifty over here. And then you had this Allen iverson

1735
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Lifetime there. I remember Alan Ivison was the bad boy NBA.

1736
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: You know, fifty was a bad boy hip hop and

1737
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: jay Z is Jay and they have the whole culture

1738
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: within this whole rebound thing and he sold it for

1739
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 1: hundred eighty six million dollars. How didn't give my life together? Bro?

1740
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I'm still hanging out. But the

1741
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that Corporate America was able

1742
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: to deal with us because you have people bridging the

1743
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 1: gap in explain, tell him you could deal in the

1744
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 1: professional That's why, That's why, That's why I always that's

1745
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: why I always looking up to Steve Stout because of

1746
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 1: what he's doing from Madison Avenue to hip hop and

1747
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: Friendly Gap called him Steven is one of the greatest.

1748
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: This translation with the translation company is phenomenal. What what

1749
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: he what he did with with Hewlett Packer and even

1750
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: the Christian would Chris was still here. I'm so sorry

1751
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 1: Chris was still pototized because I didn't, like, you know,

1752
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: I had seen the show actually on the show, and

1753
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 1: I asked him myself, Chris still here, and he kind

1754
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: of gave Chris a little shade and we could go

1755
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: to the footage, um um, you know history that relationship.

1756
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: It's a friendly competition. There's a lot, but I wanted

1757
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, I want to say from people

1758
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: that knew Chris, because I disagree with him, but he

1759
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 1: was on my show, so I let him say what

1760
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 1: he had to say. Because I've never seen nobody being

1761
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: Monday that Chris like I never no one has ever

1762
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 1: maybe one of like Chris, like that's me. I can't

1763
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 1: quote for you, I can't quote for you. I'm saying

1764
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: Chris Chris like they had the biggest impact. Chris, Like

1765
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 1: if I had the biggest impact of my life, if

1766
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Chris was still here on everything that I believe in

1767
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 1: my heart, Chris could been the president of Apple Music.

1768
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Chris could have been the president of Death Jam. Chris

1769
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: could have been the president of a Google. That's how

1770
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: great Chris Lighty was because he had a vision. But

1771
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: he's not only a vision. That man had to drive

1772
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: and he knew how, and he knew and he knew

1773
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: how to and he knew how to get to check.

1774
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of executives in the music business

1775
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 1: that know how to get the check Stout, Lighty, Jay

1776
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 1: Brown Child to Jay Brown from from Rock Nation, like

1777
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: they know how to get the check. Chris was one

1778
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: of those guys that knew how to get the check.

1779
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: So Chris, Chris is like so many different. Chris is

1780
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 1: like like James, right, Chris is like Diddy, Chris is

1781
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 1: like Jay. I'm like Chris, Okay, I'm like Chris. I'm

1782
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 1: just comparing you. Thank you for What I'm saying to

1783
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: you is that when you get to a certain level,

1784
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in this game for as long as

1785
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: you want. Like as there's there's you, you, you're going

1786
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 1: to determine your exit. If Chris was here right now,

1787
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: and if Chris was said, you understand you, you will

1788
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: determine your exit. You determine when you want to stop

1789
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: because you know so much about the business and there's

1790
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: always a sea of new talent, and there's always a

1791
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 1: sea of new business. And once you understand how to

1792
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 1: get to the money back to bring bring struck up,

1793
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: not the bag back to bring struck up, which Chris

1794
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: like you did, so it's no doubt that he would

1795
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:31,640
Speaker 1: still be here and survive and be you, Chris. If

1796
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 1: Chris was still here, a lot of these on It's

1797
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: like asking because it's it's not even here. It's a day,

1798
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: it's a day that you you you hit me. He's like, yo,

1799
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: I want to do a Chris um tribute. And I

1800
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: was like, James, you know you can't do a drink

1801
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 1: Champ because I would like everyone to be here. But

1802
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 1: you still, you still, you know, you had you had

1803
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 1: a huge passionate so you hit uh fast, Joe, Joe,

1804
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: you guys did a like Instagram thing, Instagram thing, and hey,

1805
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: everybody called me the next thing. It's like, you're knowing

1806
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 1: Christians are a better and call me called everybody called me.

1807
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: It was only and there was only three people that

1808
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 1: stood up. You know who stood up? Eric Knicks, Tiffany Lighty,

1809
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Fat Joe everybody else. Guy. It was like, I don't know,

1810
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, you know what's the fine?

1811
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: But you know I spent that day on the phone

1812
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 1: with Tiffany lady because I don't I'm gonna tid like

1813
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: a girl ass home. Chris, Like, did I only change

1814
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 1: my life? Chris liteing out only taught me everything I know? Chris,

1815
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 1: lie also change my soul because at one time I

1816
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 1: loved him so much. Another time, I hated him so

1817
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: much that I didn't know why. And when you dive

1818
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 1: into that soul and find out why you're dealing with it,

1819
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 1: you start dealing itself. So Chris, like he taught me

1820
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: about myself. Chris, like he taught me not about just

1821
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 1: how to make money, how to do the deal, the

1822
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: art to deal. Chris like Christy tald me and accept me.

1823
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 1: Chris went with me to to buy my first crib.

1824
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Like this is a guy worked for and he was like, yo,

1825
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 1: hold on before you go by this crib, but I

1826
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 1: gotta hold your hand through this process. Like this is

1827
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 1: who he was, Like you know what I'm saying, Like

1828
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: he he made all of us straight. Monus Scott, I

1829
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know where she lives at now, but Monus Scott,

1830
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: when Chris left his crib, she lives she lived in

1831
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:40,560
Speaker 1: his crib. And yeah, what starts say like, yeah, like

1832
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: this this is who this guy was, Like this guy

1833
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: was responsible for so many different people. And that to

1834
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 1: your point, I don't want to leave it alone. I

1835
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 1: don't want to leave it alone because Chris never got

1836
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: his roses when he was here. That's why. That's why

1837
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm there, and I'm going to keep that alive and

1838
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: though that, but not only that, I'm gonna give you

1839
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 1: your roses. I'm gonna give you every roses with basses roses.

1840
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't give Maddy as y'all roses hot cam because

1841
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: you know why I think about it is I love

1842
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: to give somebody else they bro but it doesn't take anything,

1843
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't take anything away from me, because you know

1844
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: why if I look at older you five people right here,

1845
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: this is what makes hip hop. No, that's everybody's different

1846
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: that anybody don't gonna relate to anybody. I don't have

1847
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: the same story. But you know what, we all love

1848
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's who make this ship happ happen. And that's what.

1849
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it. But you know what we gotta

1850
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 1: we gotta honor Chris. No listen, no, not just here, Okay,

1851
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying because and and I'm not

1852
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 1: gonna get emotional. No get emotional. We all right, that's fine.

1853
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Christ deserved Christie's a lot more and he deserved you know,

1854
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:10,560
Speaker 1: we can all perceived think of scenarios we should have

1855
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 1: been there for Christ because at that moment, when he

1856
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: left us, he needed us more than ever. All right,

1857
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: so all of James, I didn't want to go there.

1858
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: I just didn't know. I didn't know your struggle. I

1859
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to go you went there, you went there.

1860
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go there. But I don't think

1861
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: Chris killed us up. I know he didn't. He did.

1862
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't think Chris killed himself. It don't make sense.

1863
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. We walked around with these bulletproof

1864
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: vest and hammers for three years. I ain't no street

1865
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 1: cap for a lot of them. But we we we

1866
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 1: we were different, and you know what, mistakes happen. And

1867
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blame anybody's happy. I'm not gonna blame anybody.

1868
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: But my brother wasn't good with God. M And sometimes

1869
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: when you argue and you don't know, when you argue

1870
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 1: with somebody that you think loves you and they really don't,

1871
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: When you argue to fight for what's right, when you

1872
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: argue to do what's right, when you argue to survive,

1873
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: you're in a bad frame of mind because you're making

1874
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: moves based on desperation and not based on strategic thought process.

1875
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: And if Chris, for whatever reason, he raised that gun

1876
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: and there was one in the chamber. He didn't know

1877
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: but whether that was something that happened that somebody else

1878
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: did it. At the end of the day, Christian had

1879
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: never been alone. He should never been hunger my brother,

1880
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 1: they only keep it the weather. Because I didn't think

1881
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 1: that he should have married her. I did a when

1882
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 1: Chris married that day. I had an old school. I

1883
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: went to schools. I had a old school of talent.

1884
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 1: Do that they I'm married, Give me a poked ship?

1885
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 1: He said. Marrying somebody is like betting on the horse.

1886
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: Make sure you've been on the right horse and handing

1887
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: me that poked ship. Can you imagine me? Can you

1888
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: imagine Chris lady's buddy, Just think about that. I was there, Yeah,

1889
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: we were there, We were we were we were, we

1890
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 1: were in we were shooting and violated compilation video and

1891
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: and not too far from it. It was like an

1892
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: hour of right I forget the name of the song.

1893
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 1: Who was right? And Chris told me that he was

1894
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna marry her. And I looked at Chris when I said,

1895
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 1: your dog, I don't think that's a good move. I

1896
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: told him, Like me and Chris had a relationship where

1897
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: I could tell him how I felt. And I said, Joe, Bro,

1898
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you understand how you feel. You're having fun,

1899
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 1: you enjoying yourself a lot of fun at woman, it's

1900
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: not a good move. Why did you say it's not

1901
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 1: a good because she's just not she just I mean

1902
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 1: I think that. No, I don't think that. I don't

1903
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: think that. I say, no, a bitch was evil man.

1904
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Okay that I'm gonna say that one was evil man.

1905
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: Come on, where we stopped. Let's stop beating around the boy.

1906
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's tell start. Let's tell a start like, let's

1907
01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: touch her. So we're making we down in in Atlanta

1908
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: with Jermaine dupri and we're making a record with Jermaine

1909
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 1: dupri for the Violet compilation album. Jamaine Dupriest producing a record.

1910
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: That night, we go to the Gold Club in Atlanta, right,

1911
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 1: and she was she was on the trip with us

1912
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. So we go to the Gold Club. Chris

1913
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: peels off for a few minutes, comes back, she starts

1914
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: beefing with Chris, right, and then she goes and she

1915
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: grabs one of the stripper girls hair and starts fighting

1916
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:56,879
Speaker 1: with the stripper girls. Right. Security grabs her, Chris grab security,

1917
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: I grab security. We're all tumbling down the stairs and

1918
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: the fucking Gold Club. We're up in the v I

1919
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: P Area. Now, it's Celo Green, Jermaine dupri Um. It

1920
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: was a lot of people. It was so many different

1921
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 1: artists there. Right Buster came, but Buster left. It's crazy.

1922
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: Home girls always been the problem. And I'm like, Chris,

1923
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: have fun with her, just don't make it permanent. Don't

1924
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: build a life with her. That's was my opinion. I

1925
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 1: said it on Um Yeah, yeah, Cob, comeback Jack. I

1926
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 1: said it on the Combat Jack Show, and I'm saying

1927
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 1: it now. I just didn't think that he should marry her.

1928
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 1: He did. I think that I was right about it.

1929
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 1: I didn't get invited to the wedding because it was

1930
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: very obvious about how I felt, and I couldn't sit

1931
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: there and celebrate my man knowing that he was making

1932
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 1: a mistake. And he made the mistake. And I ultimately

1933
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: believed that whatever whoever pulled that trigger, whether it was

1934
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Chris or whether it was somebody else, she's the culprit. Okay,

1935
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 1: So basically, you don't think Chris kill us up? No,

1936
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: I can't. You can't convince me of that. Do you

1937
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 1: think Chris kills up? I think Chris made a very

1938
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 1: bad mistake. I don't think he needs you to answer

1939
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 1: that one. No. I think I think it was a mistake.

1940
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he meant to say yes or no.

1941
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: I think I think I think he was fighting with

1942
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: her and say, yo, you want me to die business.

1943
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: He didn't know what it was. One in the chambers,

1944
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: he's saying, yes, I think it was a mistake. I

1945
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: only got this story from a street perspective. You know,

1946
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 1: I didn't get it firsthand. You know, I wasn't you know,

1947
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 1: James was family obviously at the time. I was. I was.

1948
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: I was called up up there when it happened to

1949
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 1: deal with everything. Yeah, so when when it by the

1950
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: time he was circulating in it. You know what I'm saying,

1951
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 1: it hit the homies. I think I was a matter

1952
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 1: of fact, I was with me and Prim was together

1953
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: rest in peace. I was and uh, you said, I

1954
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 1: keep him with me. You know what I'm saying, um Man,

1955
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: problem was together. When we were saying, he was like

1956
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 1: Prom was actually mad. Prom was like, man, I don't

1957
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 1: believe him. Man, I ain't. I ain't feeling that like,

1958
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: we don't do that, you know what I'm saying, So

1959
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 1: like that's what the initial sentiment was, like that's that's

1960
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: just not what we do. We don't take ourselves out.

1961
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: But you know, but those stories then it turned into

1962
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 1: was it really? And then what really happened? So it's

1963
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 1: I backed up off of it because I'm too close

1964
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: to too many people that's close to him. The story

1965
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 1: was they found him in the in the river, and

1966
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: that it was somebody that you mentioned earlier, was the

1967
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: first three story. But hold on you what did you think?

1968
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I wasn't around the only I

1969
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: was only around um you know what that happened on

1970
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: a plane with Bessie to my own the fun did

1971
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 1: you know? Everything? To me? Just you don't know? Whatever?

1972
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 1: I remember when you know, Mona got the call Um

1973
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 1: and I was on the play with Andoscomias. He was

1974
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 1: doing Tim was Belize and Liquor and they were doing

1975
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 1: a show what he Founds. I mean, Mona was destroying Missy,

1976
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean all of us. I didn't work closely to Chris,

1977
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 1: but I told you we wanted to do viola in

1978
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: the South. I simply slide because of the impact the

1979
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: culture at I mean his company had, and I mean

1980
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean just the type of person that he was. Man.

1981
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,440
Speaker 1: He just always accepted responsibility for everybody, for his personal family,

1982
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 1: for his brothers, for his sisters, for his mother, for

1983
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 1: his father, for the staff that worked with him, from

1984
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 1: me and James and Mona and Keena and Yvette to

1985
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 1: Laurie and everybody, Yale, everybody that worked like he he

1986
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 1: he always just assumed responsibility for everybody. And sometimes and

1987
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 1: and this this is a meme that goes around Facebook.

1988
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes the strong dude needs to be checked on two

1989
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 1: And Um, I don't think that I don't think that we.

1990
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that were smart enough to do that

1991
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: because it was Chris right like you know, like you know,

1992
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: let me just starting for a one minute. I can't

1993
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 1: much want to get your your your perspective to be.

1994
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know Chris very well, you know, I knew him.

1995
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 1: Um always had an open door for me. Chris was

1996
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 1: just never took me as a person that would take

1997
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 1: his life, very self secure, strong person who didn't seem

1998
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 1: to take things too deeply like that. So but well,

1999
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 1: thank you brother, you got anything even on the outside

2000
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: to speak. All right, that's cool, but you know, let's

2001
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 1: go back to let's go back to eat and then

2002
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: go right back to eat. You know, I mean that

2003
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 1: wasn't for me. That I just you know, he just

2004
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 1: he just had a lot of stuff on his shoulders

2005
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, losing, losing the level of money

2006
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: that he lost made off were made off? Was was

2007
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 1: you know that ship was gonna be honest, there's a

2008
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 1: conversation I never wanted to have, right, I've never heard

2009
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 1: about this just made off calls. Yeah, I thought this

2010
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: was like some crazy ship that I read in New

2011
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 1: York Times that like I don't know why, like because

2012
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 1: this investment that Chris involved me in, its like yo,

2013
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 1: Michael always I was involved, Michael, this thing, this ship.

2014
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 1: The other teachers just said, I mean, let's let's you know,

2015
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 1: if we're gonna I don't know if you're gonna use this,

2016
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:57,880
Speaker 1: let's let's go through the timeline. Chris was living in

2017
02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: the box that bro and living in the town house

2018
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,520
Speaker 1: he moved to. Y'all, I didn't know it was basically on.

2019
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: We didn't nobody was running. He had the violator was

2020
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: doing a deal with Primary Way no, this is after violator.

2021
02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Chris was doing a Dealmoryways, a management company baside of

2022
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: you Care. And you know Chris, you know I was

2023
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: doing a couple of things and he got some really

2024
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: bad news consecutive days. Um, and I don't want to

2025
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 1: speak on details of certain deals that I wasn't involved in,

2026
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 1: but I know there was bad and um. When the

2027
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: call came in, I was sitting in the barber chain

2028
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: and I called Bus and Bus was crying. Yo, No,

2029
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I knew what it was. And then the streets room

2030
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 1: and started and then Debro calls me. Debro said, you

2031
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: gotta get up here right now. We need you. No

2032
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 1: Dojia those a cat Dosia from the hip hop Polies

2033
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 1: dude was currently here. So Dosia at one time had

2034
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: some medical things that we helped him deal with. Christmas involved,

2035
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: so Chris the craik d and um, we need you

2036
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 1: to deal with this. And then I got up there

2037
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 1: and there are a couple of artists. Now I won't

2038
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 1: say names, but it was more like, you gotta deal

2039
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 1: with this. We need somebody who could deal with this

2040
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 1: on a different level, could talk to these dudes. And

2041
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:31,400
Speaker 1: I was there and and then there was a lot

2042
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 1: of emotion. There was a lot of anger. There's a

2043
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of finger pointing, there was a lot of confusion,

2044
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 1: but most of water was a lot of hurt and

2045
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 1: pain because he met so much tis and we went

2046
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 1: to the funeral, certain people didn't speak, Certain people didn't talk,

2047
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 1: certain people didn't talk. And then there were people that

2048
02:04:54,400 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 1: spoke at the funeral that had no had no the

2049
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 1: reason to speak up the simple question. There were certain

2050
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 1: people that spoke had nothing to do with this manship.

2051
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:08,320
Speaker 1: There was a lot of acting. There was a lot

2052
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 1: of fainting, there was a lot of bullshit, a lot

2053
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 1: of distraction that was going on. And I'm gonna share

2054
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: a very personal story a little question because when the

2055
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,000
Speaker 1: funeral was over, and if anybody was there, they know

2056
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: he was in the miles of Lium and he's in

2057
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: the wall. And like I remember, I told you we

2058
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 1: were best friends, that we were watching Themmesis at the time,

2059
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:33,120
Speaker 1: and we were two. A month and a half before

2060
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 1: he passed, he came to my birthday party and Batman

2061
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 1: and Robin will getting back together. So I was heartbroken.

2062
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 1: The Batman and Robin wasn't getting back together. The Batman

2063
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: was gone as much as I wanted, like I was batman,

2064
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't. He was always bat man, and nobody wanted

2065
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 1: to walk after it was all over. You know how

2066
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 1: when it was over, everybody says, good body of the

2067
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 1: casting and walls. And I'm standing there with relieving my

2068
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 1: wife and my sister Danielle. You know, my wife gives

2069
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 1: me the nute. Don't broken up now, I'm not doing it.

2070
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:05,080
Speaker 1: She says, you need to, you need to do it.

2071
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: So I'm the first one who walks over to the casket.

2072
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this to the day I passed. He

2073
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: had a Pittsburgh Steelers signed on his casket because he

2074
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 1: was the biggest Lynn Swan fan on the last and

2075
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: there was a Pittsburgh Steelers sign sitting there and I said, yo,

2076
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 1: be it's all over with. I loved him. I'm gonna

2077
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: miss you. And I turned and just someone was there,

2078
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:27,560
Speaker 1: and I said, to your father is a great man.

2079
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna miss him. Don't never forget your father is

2080
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 1: a great man. And I looked in that person's eyes

2081
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 1: and I saw evil, so even in that woman's eyes,

2082
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:41,640
Speaker 1: so I knew. And my wife grabbed me because she

2083
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 1: knew I was about to say the wrong things. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't hold him, so my wife was in the woman's eyes,

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Speaker 1: so even the woman's eye and le me grabbed me

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Speaker 1: and said let's go right. And we walked downstait And

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Speaker 1: if anybody goes to just Chris like I do, I do,

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Speaker 1: go visit him talks to me. I walked down the

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Speaker 1: stairs and my wife and my sister made it right,

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Speaker 1: and I made a left. When I made a left,

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Speaker 1: Chris's spirit came to me and snapped the ship out

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Speaker 1: of me like you always did. He had a black

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Speaker 1: suit on it. Here at a time, skinny has time.

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Speaker 1: He said, it is your turn? Is your turn? Black shirt?

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Speaker 1: A white shirt with a black skinny time. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's your turn. It's your turn. Bet you'll beat. Don't

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Speaker 1: funk this up like I did. Don't funk this up

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Speaker 1: like I did. You're the last one left beat. And

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Speaker 1: when he said that, I looked he was crying. Chris

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Speaker 1: Lady never crop. Chris Lady had the best poker facial

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Speaker 1: level sea in business and in personally. And the spirit

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Speaker 1: left and I turned and I walked back to my wife,

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Speaker 1: and I'm a little shaken up. My sister says, who

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02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:55,600
Speaker 1: are you talking to? And my wife says, yeah, who

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02:07:55,680 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 1: was the guy in a black suit? Sounds chrisy, I'm

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02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:11,920
Speaker 1: a crying Illinois. I'm sorry. Well, we lost good man,

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02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 1: great man, a great father, a great leader, a great manager.

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Speaker 1: But we lost It's like all the other people in

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Speaker 1: hip hop and love, but we lost key link to

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Speaker 1: what hold this together. His anniversary is coming up. And

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Speaker 1: to say that, I'm saying here with Eric nixs is

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Speaker 1: sit here with you and say that he spirit still

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Speaker 1: laugh bill love because without Chris we wanted people h

2114
02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 1: But again, Chris doesn't get the credit the love that

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Speaker 1: he deserves. Funk the artist, ship Funck the executive ship Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as a man, m hm. And you know, in my sobriety,

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Speaker 1: in my sobriety, Chris told me to get clean if

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Speaker 1: you wanted the truth. Where I left Violator was because

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Speaker 1: I got schooled in the vitamin what to deal. But

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Speaker 1: I was so messed up mentally. Chris told me, you

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Speaker 1: get strength, there'll be no stopping you. I wasn't ready

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Speaker 1: to listen up to. So now, if I could say

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Speaker 1: one thing, Christ, I'm sorry and I love you, mh.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I'm sorry to change the toney. But

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Speaker 1: that's my brother, that's my brother, and we're here what

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Speaker 1: you will. If it wasn't for him, there be no norry,

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Speaker 1: there be no bust, there be no missy, there be

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Speaker 1: no fifty to be, you know. And you gotta give

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02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 1: him credit what credits do because we're not gonna let

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02:09:57,160 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: his spirit die, his message die. Im s the seray

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02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,440
Speaker 1: meaning to make some noise for that need make some

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Speaker 1: Lord now, James, we really appreciate it because you know

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's not what drink champ change has. The

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Speaker 1: problems just being real, man, that's just as all it is.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. How can you I feel

2136
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Speaker 1: like you had to say something. No, no, no, I'm

2137
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Speaker 1: I feel blessed to be a part of this. Thank

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02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 1: you for having me Eric to invite me so that

2139
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Speaker 1: I'm right here, James, I know for for evan to day.

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Speaker 1: Just met the queen for the first time the day.

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Speaker 1: But you don't know body, No listen, man, if you

2142
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Speaker 1: want to be a love it, but it's poor and

2143
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Speaker 1: for us to give each other our roses and I

2144
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Speaker 1: want to keep that spirit of life that now talking

2145
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 1: about it, I'm poor for us to celebrate each other,

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02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 1: acknowledge each other. That's what drink about to say in

2147
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Speaker 1: this table with my brothers, even if I'm a generation younger,

2148
02:10:55,480 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 1: and learning from me that we kind of love it,

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02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:05,280
Speaker 1: and absorbing you guys, and and being honored to hear

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Speaker 1: these stories and work with the people that I at

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02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,760
Speaker 1: one point looked up to. So and when we gave

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Speaker 1: me that call, it was know what, you know what

2153
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:18,440
Speaker 1: because you know why I'm being honest. Um, I really

2154
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Speaker 1: do love love and hip hop. And the thing is,

2155
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Speaker 1: I might be that one I might be that one

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Speaker 1: and only punch that loves love and hip hop from

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Speaker 1: the from the perspective that they don't see, like I

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02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 1: love that rape and Pat Poost, I love that you

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Speaker 1: understand like black love. Like I've been trinking the fact

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Speaker 1: that I didn't create that ship, Likena be honest, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Joe Button's played yourself.

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02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Harry plays and stuff. I think I

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Speaker 1: think it's a lot of people that just they just

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Speaker 1: do who they are. And to me, that is kind

2165
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Speaker 1: of dope because like, listen, listen, your version of the

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02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:06,760
Speaker 1: hip hop is whatever, it's whatever. So if there's a

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02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:10,280
Speaker 1: version for you to look at that and then listen

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Speaker 1: all the world look say what love just don't throw

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Speaker 1: orange at m It was an apple because an apple

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Speaker 1: in a marriage boot camp. And I make all this

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Speaker 1: to change. All have the next ten years left in

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Speaker 1: this business. So what we do, how we impact people,

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02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 1: how we carry the next person forward, how we continue diversifying,

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Speaker 1: changing the spectrum, being in those borders, understanding equity, understanding

2175
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 1: business and being partners because that's what these past being

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Speaker 1: in the businesses taught me, because I didn't go to

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Speaker 1: school for this ship, because that's what James is talking

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Speaker 1: about earlier. And they just like, yo, you know sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed when I'm coming to and he was absolutely right,

2180
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 1: nothing what you said that's wrong with my son When

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Speaker 1: you said, yo, I'm not going on these rooms and

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Speaker 1: they asked about that, you're right, like like like sometimes

2183
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Speaker 1: it's not the thing to talk about, Like went to

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Speaker 1: her a read and young berg Is thrown hot dogs

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Speaker 1: at each other. We don't really want to talk about

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Speaker 1: that in the pool being were like that's not yeah, yeah, America,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs,

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