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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom has been going wild on Twitter and there's

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Speaker 2: this weird maybe you could explain it a little more

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Speaker 2: to be sager, but there's this weird horseshoe where actually,

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Speaker 2: like a bunch of the white nationalists Kroupers have negatively

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Speaker 2: polarized themselves against Trump to.

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Speaker 1: Not just Trump, with JD specifically jdbat writing they do

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Speaker 1: hate and wife.

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge part, yes, correct, not a huge part,

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Speaker 1: that's the entire part.

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Speaker 2: And so they've negatively polarize themselves into being pro Gavin,

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Speaker 2: and so in any case, there are all sorts of

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and put C two. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 2: and roll through some of these means, and then we

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Speaker 2: can play the Fox News reaction.

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Speaker 3: There's all sorts of stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom reply to this picture of this video of

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Speaker 2: Scott Presler and say thank you.

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Speaker 3: Nancy Mace.

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Speaker 2: Tommy laren is then upset by this, says new Lows

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Speaker 2: unlocked by Gavin Newsom, You're kidding me.

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Speaker 3: Your state and.

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Speaker 2: Your bullshit governor rant and rave on a daily basis

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Speaker 2: about protecting gay people. You're really going to use your

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Speaker 2: official press office account to troll a gay conservant call

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Speaker 2: him a woman. And then the Newsom Press office replies,

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Speaker 2: you sound woke. We can put the next one up

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Speaker 2: on the screen, just to get a flavor of a

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Speaker 2: bunch of these.

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Speaker 1: This is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, this might be a Nancika. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea who this person is. But in any case,

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Speaker 2: they say, which way America, And they've got Gavin looking

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Speaker 2: very handsome and fit in high school with his baseball bat.

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Speaker 3: And Jade Vance with wagon.

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Speaker 2: At a similar age, and apparently eyeliner as well. Let's

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Speaker 2: put the next one up on the screen. You've got

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Speaker 2: this isn't a legit Nazi account, This one that posted

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom versus j D vance in high school. And

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Speaker 2: then Gavin retweets this legit Nazi account and says, I

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Speaker 2: missed that scarf. Let's put the next one up on

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Speaker 2: the screen. See what else we got here?

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Speaker 3: This one he posted, go Gadham j D. This was

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Speaker 3: actually a video of.

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Speaker 2: JD looking like not too athletic, running to rescue his kid.

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Speaker 3: He's doing the Disneyland.

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Speaker 1: Disneyland yeahah, the true parent run of run don't walk,

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Speaker 1: but know that you're on camera.

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Speaker 3: I'll defend him on that one.

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Speaker 1: The only reason that I think any of this is

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Speaker 1: interesting is that Gavin is basically just going trump like.

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Speaker 1: He's going all like Trumpy in terms of his posting

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Speaker 3: While what an honor on Mount Rushmore? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: And it's like an AI image of Gavin Newsom Rushmore.

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Speaker 1: Quite no yet go into the next one.

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Speaker 2: This is lives of TikTok, who had posted I remember

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Speaker 2: she posted something mean about him, and then he said

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Speaker 2: great job Chaia and has the picture of her with

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Speaker 2: her Binder so excited on Epstein Files Phase one day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my take from Gavin is that he is very

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Speaker 1: clearly trying to he basically is very clearly trying to

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Speaker 1: He fights, he pisss off the Republicans, and it's been

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Speaker 1: somewhat effective, I think right now, because okay, it's somewhat

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Speaker 1: effective in a couple of ways. Number one is it's

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Speaker 1: turning conservatives now into concern trolling snowflakes like Tommy Laren

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Speaker 1: being like that's so mean going out. It's like, fuck

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if she's human.

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Speaker 2: Oh she's got feelings, she's got big emotion.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It all seems very fake to me say,

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Speaker 1: But in terms of Gavin, I think what is interesting

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Speaker 1: more to me is what they're big discussion yesterday about

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Speaker 1: the things that will define being a Democratic nominee in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, and already some of the initial polling

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Speaker 1: is showing up for Gavin. Let's go and put this

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Speaker 1: twenty six percent. I'm not sure that would be a

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Speaker 1: good idea, but whatever. But number two is Newsom, and

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Speaker 1: number three buddhaj Edge, then AOC Booker, Crockett, Pritzker, Witmer, Shapiro, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Kamala does not run again. And what it means is

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Speaker 1: that he's capturing at the very least not only with

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Speaker 1: it's exactly what I heard from a lot of Republicans

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Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. Even a lot

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Speaker 1: would always say the same thing, Yeah, again it it's distasteful,

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Speaker 1: And it was one of those where you could connect

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Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. People who came completely out

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Speaker 1: it like it is. That's what we heard over and

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are policy implications to that, But my

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Speaker 1: point about Gavin is I think that he's connecting very solidly,

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Speaker 1: like with where that No King's energy is for a

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Speaker 1: lot of these people, and with Gavin and his about

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Speaker 1: face from the initial days of the Trump administration, post

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Speaker 1: vibe shift has been one where he's taken all of

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Speaker 1: the most like performative fighting actions like the lawsuits, the

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Speaker 1: mobilizing the lawsuits against the National Guard, and then the

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Speaker 1: Twitter piece. The only reason I think it's important is

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Speaker 1: really to invite conversation by a lot of the Republican

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Speaker 1: elites to negatively polarize them against him. Yeah, that's very

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Speaker 1: helpful because one of the things people loved most about Trump,

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Speaker 1: even if they didn't like him, they loved how much

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Speaker 1: he pissed off the media. So the more that the

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Speaker 1: Tommy Larrence and Fox News is are mad at Gavin,

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Speaker 1: the more happy that these Democrats are going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they love that Trump owned the Libs and like

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Speaker 2: track the Libs, and now if Gavin's able to trigger

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Speaker 2: the conservatives, the base is going to.

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Speaker 3: Eat that up.

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Speaker 2: It's shocking that more of these idiotic democratic politicians haven't

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Speaker 2: realized that that is the case. And actually, I mean

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Speaker 2: it took Gavin a while to get it. He was there,

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Speaker 2: you know, launched his podcast, having on Charlie Kirk to

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Speaker 2: like just hang out and have this like chummy conversation

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Speaker 2: that's when it really turned because Gavin started fighting and

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Speaker 2: being vocal and visible and got a positive response, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, this is the thing that people want

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Speaker 2: me to do. So to your point about triggering the Trumpers,

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll say triggering the trumpers. Fox Knew's doing

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Speaker 2: some just delicious pearl clutching over some comments that Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom made that I don't even know if he intended

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Speaker 2: Greg Abbott's the fact that he's disabled, that he's in

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Speaker 2: a wheelchair. I don't even know if he intended that,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Fox News was in high dudgeon about these comments,

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Speaker 2: and you'll see their response to Gavin Newsom's reply, Let's

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Speaker 2: go ahead. This is see one, guys, go ahead and play.

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Speaker 4: This Congressman Greg Abbott, who is in a wheelchair, and

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Speaker 4: Newsom says he rolled over for Trump. That's almost as

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Speaker 4: bad as Jasmine Crockett calling him governor hot wheels. You know,

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Speaker 4: we asked for a statement, and Newsom's office said something

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Speaker 4: flippant like, you know, you're so woke. He'll get over it,

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Speaker 4: abboit'll get over it your response to it.

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Speaker 2: So actually the reply from the newsom press office was,

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Speaker 2: But how woke of you to ask. I'm sorry Greg's

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Speaker 2: was their reply. So that's their like, you know, level

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Speaker 2: of trolling, and so they're loving seeing And there was

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Speaker 2: some other I don't remember if we pulled it or not.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah we did. We pulled C three B, which.

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Speaker 2: Was another moment of Fox News being so offended, so

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Speaker 2: disgusted by the way that Gavin Newsom is comporting himself.

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Speaker 3: Now let's go ahead and play that.

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Speaker 1: Thing for me.

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Speaker 5: Is that for the last week Gavin Newsom? And why

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Speaker 5: am I giving him advice? You had to stop it

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Speaker 5: with the Twitter thing. I don't know where his wife

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Speaker 5: is if I.

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Speaker 3: Want his wife.

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Speaker 5: I would say, you are making a fool of yourself.

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Speaker 5: Stop it, do not, do not let your staff tweet.

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Speaker 5: And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away

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Speaker 5: and start over. And if you want. He's got a

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Speaker 5: big job as governor of California, but if he wants

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Speaker 5: an even bigger job, he has to be a little

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Speaker 5: bit more serious.

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Speaker 1: And of course it's just spent a lot more less

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Speaker 1: time on his phone tweeting. That's never worked out.

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Speaker 3: Where have you heard that before? Where you heard that before?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's so funny, is like, do you

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Speaker 2: not hear yourself? Do you not realize who the president is?

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Speaker 2: That you like, you know, glaze off.

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Speaker 1: Baby Trump. Oh, it's just so amazing how much direct

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Speaker 1: access we have to the AMIA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's so funny. It's such a great way of

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Speaker 2: communicating with people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I will tell you the last forty eight hours,

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Speaker 1: I have wanted to blow my brains out because I

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Speaker 1: for being formidable.

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Speaker 2: Shitty establishment neoliberals that are you know, potential for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty field.

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Speaker 3: He's the one I'm most worried about. For sure.

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Speaker 1: You should be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not worried about Whitmer. I don't know

443
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Speaker 2: what she's doing. She's out there like playing Patty Case

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Speaker 2: with Trump.

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Speaker 3: Girl.

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Speaker 2: You are so misreading the moment like all of these

447
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Speaker 2: other He's the one that I think has the most ants.

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Speaker 2: So I am concerned about him. I am officially concerned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and get to the ADL

451
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Speaker 2: head Jonathan green Platt, who went on CNBC to bash

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Speaker 2: and just outright brazenly lie about zoron Manzani, who of

453
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Speaker 2: course is the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor.

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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a listen to this.

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Speaker 7: We have a mayoral candidate.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's where I want to go with this next. Sure,

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Speaker 8: So what do you make what do you make of

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Speaker 8: this mayoral candidate who, likely the right things are going,

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Speaker 8: is going to become the mayor of this city. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and the fact that he was asked, as you know,

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Speaker 8: three times repeatedly, do you condemn the phrase globalize the Intefada?

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Speaker 8: And for whatever reason, almost inexplicably unless you believe he's

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Speaker 8: an anti Semite weight.

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Speaker 7: Let's just make sure all the viewers know the to

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Speaker 7: Fado is a violent uprising in the palest Indian territories

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Speaker 7: where they murdered over a thousand people simply because they

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Speaker 7: were Jewish. Bus bombing, stabbing, shootings, et cetera. So that

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Speaker 7: being said, why won't he condemn globaliz intofada because he

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Speaker 7: believes it? I mean, I think we have to take

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Speaker 7: people at their word. Look, in the last.

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Speaker 8: Months, make it even more complicated. We became jeffreys on

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Speaker 8: last week. Yeah, Okay, we talked about this, and we

473
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Speaker 8: talked about it in the context of those comments. What

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Speaker 8: Minority Leader Jeffreyes say, he almost could he he almost

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Speaker 8: couldn't condemn him either in that regard, because what's going

476
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Speaker 8: to happen is if he wins, people who even disagree

477
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Speaker 8: with him on times like this will think that they

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Speaker 8: have to agree with him.

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Speaker 7: Look, whether you agree with President Trump or it would

480
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Speaker 7: be mayor mom, Donnie, we have to deal with elected

481
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Speaker 7: leaders as they are. But I think there are questions

482
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Speaker 7: we should ask right now, Like this candidate has visited

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Speaker 7: churches and mosques, not a single synagogue. This candidate has

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Speaker 7: gone to Harlem to meet the Black community, Washington Heights

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Speaker 7: to meet the Latino community, Chinatown to meet the Asian

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Speaker 7: American community, not once to a Jewish neighborhood.

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Speaker 6: The last pool, I saw something like thirty two or

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Speaker 6: thirty three percent of Jewish Americans in New York were supporting.

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Speaker 7: Fairly that fairly respectually, Becky, like, I don't believe the

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Speaker 7: polls because I know something about this candidate. He hasn't

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Speaker 7: been to any of the mainstream Jewish institutions He's it

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Speaker 7: would appear, I mean, I haven't heard from him. I

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Speaker 7: don't think the heads of most of the.

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Speaker 1: Major Jewish groups acratically, I mean harder get the polls.

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Speaker 1: How many voted for him in the Democratic primary.

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Speaker 7: I mean relatively speaking, we know that the way that

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Speaker 7: the worked out was actually pretty low number.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, why anyone takes this man seriously

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Speaker 2: at this point is an absolute and complete mystery to me.

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Speaker 2: Second of all, what brazen Nearly every word out of

501
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Speaker 2: his mouth is just a brazen lie.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: So he says, Oh, he hasn't been visited a single synagogue.

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Speaker 2: Put t two up on the screen. What do we

505
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Speaker 2: see here? Law and behold wonderful to be back at

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Speaker 2: this synagogue on the Upper West Side last night for

507
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Speaker 2: mayoral forum on the critical issues facing the Jewish community

508
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Speaker 2: in this election. And frankly, the fact he hasn't reached

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Speaker 2: out to Jonathan green Blatz, in my view, is a

510
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Speaker 2: major point in his favor. And that's really I think

511
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Speaker 2: what green Blatt is mad about. If he hasn't gone

512
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Speaker 2: and you know, kissed the ring of Jonathan green Blatt,

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Speaker 2: then any other outreach that he's done to the Jewish community,

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Speaker 2: which Becky there points out, by the way, this guy

515
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Speaker 2: is doing better with Jews in New York city than

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Speaker 2: any other mayoral candidate. But if he hasn't kissed Jonathan

517
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Speaker 2: Greenblatz ring specifically, then it really doesn't count. We can

518
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Speaker 2: put D four up on the screen because they did

519
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Speaker 2: a good job of breaking down every single one of

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Speaker 2: the lies that in that short clip that green Blatz tells.

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Speaker 2: So they say, contrary to Greenblat's assertion, Mom Donnie attended

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Speaker 2: Shabbat services in Park Slope in February, visited the offices

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Speaker 2: of the UJA Federation for a town hall co hosted

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Speaker 2: with the Jewish Community Relations Council in May, participated in

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Speaker 2: two separate candidate forums at cong Congregation Ben I just

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Speaker 2: shrew run, Sorry guys, butcher that in Manhattan in June,

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Speaker 2: nonetheless the Democratic mayoral primary. He also made an effort

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Speaker 2: to reach out to the more than seven hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: Jewish voters in New York, including a visit to an

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Speaker 2: annual legislative breakfast in Flatbush, heavily orthodox neighborhood in Brooklyn

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Speaker 2: with a politically conservative electorate. He also Greenblatt claims that

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Speaker 2: Mom Donnie did not reach out to Hasidic voters in

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Speaker 2: their native Yiddish language, also a lie. He gave an

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Speaker 2: interview to a Yiddish language Hissitic newspaper that were photos

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Speaker 2: circulating on social media showing pro Mam Donnie Yiddish language

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Speaker 2: campaign posters on a poll in Burrough Park. He's relying

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Speaker 2: on a senior team of Jewish professionals for his campaign.

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Speaker 2: And this whole globalized the Intifada thing is such total

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Speaker 2: and complete bullshit. First of all, if you did say it,

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Speaker 2: I'd support it, But he never actually said it, and

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Speaker 2: he has shifted to even saying he would discourage its

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Speaker 2: use since he got so much scrutiny and pressure put

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Speaker 2: on him over all of this, So just utter and

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Speaker 2: complete lies out of this man's mouth and zero ability

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Speaker 2: to reckon with the fact that actually the the strongest

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Speaker 2: candidate in the field, both in the primary and now

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Speaker 2: in the general election with Jewish voters is Zorn Mandani,

548
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Speaker 2: who yes, is an avowed anti Zionist, who is pro BDS,

549
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Speaker 2: who thinks that the.

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Speaker 3: War criminal Benjamin Natnaw.

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Speaker 2: Who should be arrested if he ever came to New

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Speaker 2: York City. And guess what New York City made voters

553
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Speaker 2: agree with him?

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Speaker 3: Not with you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, And I think it's actually just very

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Speaker 1: interesting because it's a couple of different areas that we

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Speaker 1: can look at. The ADL has a lot of institutional power,

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Speaker 1: but it is increasingly losing a lot of its political power,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what's very important, and just to

560
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Speaker 1: show everybody though that the institutional power they have. I

561
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Speaker 1: found this story recently. I wanted to break some of

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Speaker 1: it down. Can we put D three up on the screen?

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Speaker 1: There were, apparently, very recently a huge fight in the

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Speaker 1: teachers union in the NEA over rejecting ADL materials basically

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Speaker 1: propaganda materials to be used by teachers to teach quote

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Speaker 1: about anti semit So apparently what happened is that the

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Speaker 1: members approved a proposal inside of the teachers' union to

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Speaker 1: sever all of their ties with the ADL over the

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Speaker 1: war in Gaza. But the executive committee overruled basically this

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Speaker 1: and rejected it, saying that they will continue to work

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Speaker 1: with them over quote anti Semitism or Holocaust education. So

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Speaker 1: as you can see there. But the reason why I

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Speaker 1: think this is very important is what they say for them,

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Speaker 1: is they're blaming union rules or any of that or whatever,

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Speaker 1: is that they still have a huge hold on a

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Speaker 1: lot of the nation's institutions, from Twitter to the US government,

577
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Speaker 1: working with the Trump administration, working with the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: as we saw previously, they assembled a lot of the

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Speaker 1: target lists or at least helped for some of these

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Speaker 1: deportations of these Israel critics who were students who again

581
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Speaker 1: literally were here legally did nothing else other than criticize Israel,

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Speaker 1: and now a lot of their materials because of this

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Speaker 1: legacy stuff they've done on the Holocaust, continues to kind

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Speaker 1: of do the work of pro Israeli propaganda. So it's

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Speaker 1: just one of those where, you know, the beast of

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Speaker 1: the adl if you really want to like dismantle it.

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Speaker 1: It's not just it's it's important politically to actually have

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Speaker 1: candidates who outright reject them. But those candidates then need

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Speaker 1: to look at all of the other areas that they're influencing,

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Speaker 1: like censorship, misinformation. Oh yeah, and this that's why I

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Speaker 1: think it's really important.

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Speaker 3: And this guy just booked across cable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you and I were talking when he was on.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this man on CNBC? Like, actually,

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Speaker 1: this is a financial network, you know. When I put

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Speaker 1: CNBC on, I'm like, what's the stock of Nvidia. What's

597
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Speaker 1: jen sevn got to say? That's it Bloomberg or any

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Speaker 1: of these other places. This this channel is on every

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Speaker 1: office on all Wall Street all day long. They watch

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Speaker 1: it for financial news, not for any of this. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: they have politics on, like Charlie Kirk or whatever was

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Speaker 1: on the other day, but even that was about tariffs,

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Speaker 1: and that was about the economy. This in particular, it's like,

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Speaker 1: what is the purpose of this segment other than to

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Speaker 1: basically weaponize and you know, like mobilize like the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street New York City elites to try and continue their

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Speaker 1: failed like anti mom Donnie campaign. Now so far it's like, yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: Ackman and at all have all tried. It's all come

609
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Speaker 1: up nothing because you have nothing. They have no plan

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Speaker 1: or ability to stop mom Donnie from getting elected. At

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Speaker 1: this point, he's going to be mayor.

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Speaker 2: Their fantasy is that everyone except Andrew Cuomo drops out

613
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Speaker 2: of the race, which is a fantasy.

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Speaker 3: It's not happening.

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Speaker 2: But even if it did, even in the polling when

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Speaker 2: it is a head to head, Zoron still wins because

617
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Speaker 2: Colmos sucks.

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Speaker 3: People don't like him, right, He's terrible.

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Speaker 2: He's out there humiliating himself the way he's posting on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis, like your plan has failed, so and

621
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Speaker 2: they do not want to grapple with reality. That's why

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Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I don't believe the polls. Actually, if

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Speaker 2: you'll recall, in the Democratic primary, the polls wildly understated

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Speaker 2: zoran support wildly because he completely was able to change

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Speaker 2: the elector. He actually shifted the elector and brought out

626
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Speaker 2: so many more young people than were anticipated. So don't

627
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Speaker 2: be surprised if the polls are once again underestimating his support,

628
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Speaker 2: because it's very difficult to predict in these sorts of elections.

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Speaker 2: With a candidate who is so unique and who himself

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Speaker 2: is able to change who shows up to vote, it

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Speaker 2: makes it very difficult to do the polling and for

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Speaker 2: it to ultimately be accurate.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get this in. It's a little bit. Uh.

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Speaker 3: It fits, but it doesn't totally fit.

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Speaker 2: But I will say the Free Press is a sort

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Speaker 2: of ADL aligned institution, and it does fit with me.

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Speaker 1: They're actually more militant.

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Speaker 2: They are more milled, but it fits with the idea

639
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Speaker 2: that there is like for you know, the Israel bear

640
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Speaker 2: hug position. There has been almost complete loss of public

641
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Speaker 2: support outside of like Boomer Republicans, but there's still a

642
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Speaker 2: lot of elite support and elite pushing of this narrative

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Speaker 2: free press and their you know supposal. What was their valuation,

644
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Speaker 2: undred fifty million dollars something valuation I think.

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Speaker 1: Because it means where we're the hundred millions. Yeah, exactly,

646
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Speaker 1: support it because we're really rich.

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Speaker 3: Sim Dylan was like, what do I need to stay?

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Speaker 2: It's fine to blow up toddlers, It's good anyway, Let's

649
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Speaker 2: put their latest journalism up on the screen here. I

650
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Speaker 2: am so thoroughly disgusted with this line of quote unquote reporting.

651
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Speaker 2: So the headline here is they became symbols for Gazen starvation,

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Speaker 2: but all twelve suffer from other health problems. And they

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Speaker 2: go through these twelve individuals, all of them Palestinian children

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Speaker 2: who are being starved and you know, and suffering through

655
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Speaker 2: all sorts of things true, not just starvation in Gaza,

656
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Speaker 2: that they are suffering through, as if to disprove the

657
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Speaker 2: idea that there is there are famine conditions in Gaza,

658
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Speaker 2: which is insane because you can just look at the

659
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Speaker 2: staff yourself about the amount of food trucks that were

660
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Speaker 2: allowed in four months and months there was an almost

661
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Speaker 2: complete blockade. There has been some lifting of that, some

662
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Speaker 2: trucks are getting in. It has eased slightly, but nowhere

663
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Speaker 2: near what is needed. And so let me give you

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Speaker 2: an example of one of the children that they say

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Speaker 2: it's not fair to represent as suffering from starvation. There's

666
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Speaker 2: a fourteen year old boy, they say, who was featured.

667
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to read you what they say. These

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Speaker 2: are their words. The fourteen year old boy was featured

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Speaker 2: in the same CNN story as another child suffering from malnourishment.

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Speaker 3: The original caption didn't mention.

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Speaker 2: That last May that boy had sustained a traumatic head

672
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Speaker 2: injury amid what SHMS News agency, a Gaza based outlet,

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Speaker 2: called an Israeli shell explosion. My son was injured in

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Speaker 2: the head. His mother explained part of his skull was removed.

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Speaker 2: And so what the free press is saying is, oh, well,

676
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Speaker 2: you didn't mention CNN in that article that Israeli's blue

677
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Speaker 2: part of his skull apart, and that that's contributed to

678
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Speaker 2: his malnourished state. So is that supposed to be a

679
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Speaker 2: propaganda win for Israel that in addition to the fact

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Speaker 2: you're starving this child to death, you also blew up

681
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Speaker 2: part of his head.

682
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Speaker 3: Is that a win?

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Speaker 2: Another one of the individual the kids that they talk

684
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Speaker 2: about here, Oh, they also suffer from rickets. Do you

685
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Speaker 2: know what causes rickets? Vitamin deficiency causes rickets? And you

686
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: think that, oh, that's completely separate and apart from malnourishment

687
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: and famine and starvation. I mean, it's just so disgusting.

688
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: Of course, the first people who are on the brink

689
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Speaker 2: of death, or who have in hundreds of instances at

690
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Speaker 2: this point, already starve to death. Yes, of course, it's

691
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Speaker 2: the sick, it's the weak, it's the vulnerable. Those are

692
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Speaker 2: the first people, often children, often infants, or the elderly,

693
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Speaker 2: to die in famine conditions. That does not take away

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Speaker 2: anything from the horrors of what is being perpetrated here.

695
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Speaker 2: And I just it's unbelievable to me that people put

696
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Speaker 2: this stuff out and think that this makes.

697
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Speaker 3: Israel look good. Oh, congratulate you.

698
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Speaker 2: He had his head blown up too, and he's starving

699
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Speaker 2: to death, So it's different. CNN's lying, they're doing Prohamas

700
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Speaker 2: propaganda like disgusting, so disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Zed has actually made the I have never familiarized myself

702
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Speaker 1: with Holocaust denile, so I didn't know the finer points. Yeah,

703
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Speaker 1: learning now thanks to Zed watching time, So yeah, I'm

704
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Speaker 1: backing you up. You should steal this. Zed informed all

705
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Speaker 1: of us that a key tenant of Holocaust denile is

706
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Speaker 1: trying to claim that many of the initial victims or

707
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Speaker 1: purported victims had other, you know, preconditions, and that's part

708
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Speaker 1: of the reason why they died. And you know, the

709
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Speaker 1: war was tough on everybody, and it wasn't think. Another one,

710
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Speaker 1: which you know, I talked about those with Ryan, was

711
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Speaker 1: people talking about how there are restaurants in Gaza that

712
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Speaker 1: are operating. And again, because I'm not familiar with the

713
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Speaker 1: Holocaust and Isle, apparently that is a key tenant of

714
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Speaker 1: why the war's not Ghetto was not so bad. Was

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Speaker 1: that the very you know, filthy rich members of the

716
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Speaker 1: Jewish community who could barter trade or whatever, could afford food. Actually, yes,

717
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Speaker 1: they did have restaurants that they were available, but according

718
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Speaker 1: to many of the accounts, it was not. It was

719
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Speaker 1: an actual daily reality that you could have rich people

720
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Speaker 1: afford food and people literally starving outside of those very doors,

721
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Speaker 1: which is psychotic and crazy obviously, but just to demonstrate,

722
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Speaker 1: you know that these is straight out of that type

723
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Speaker 1: of denialism that I had no idea against. I've never

724
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Speaker 1: engaged with any of it, like at an actual level,

725
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Speaker 1: but apparently this is a lot of what it was.

726
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Speaker 3: We're seeing the playbook unfolding the Rickets thing.

727
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Speaker 1: I was like, really, you're going to say Rickets.

728
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Speaker 2: When this Olivia Ngngold tweeted it out. She was like,

729
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Speaker 2: she mentioned specifically Rickets.

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Speaker 1: She's the one who read every single tweet of zoron

731
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Speaker 1: Mumdanni and said that it was journalism. If anyone's wondering,

732
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Speaker 1: and they made a TikTok about it. Actually she's like,

733
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Speaker 1: I've read every single tweet.

734
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Speaker 3: It's not stalking. It's called journalists. Wasn't that what she said?

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Speaker 1: Journalists?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go on and get to updates with

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: regard to Israel because there are some significant ones. Put

738
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Speaker 2: E one up on the screen again. We've been so

739
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: reliant on drop site. They just do incredible journalism here

740
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Speaker 2: breaking things down. This is the statement specifically from Hamas,

741
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Speaker 2: but they informed the Hamas movement Palisan in factions have

742
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Speaker 2: informed of their approval of their proposal presented to them

743
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Speaker 2: yesterday by Egyptian and Kantari mediators. Some of the details

744
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: here again per drop site. They say Hamas accepts these

745
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Speaker 2: fire proposal submitted by Egypt and Qatar. Egypt this morning

746
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Speaker 2: presented a revised version of US on Voice Steve Whitcoff's

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Speaker 2: sixty day plan based on the thirteen point framework. Hamas

748
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Speaker 2: had submitted amendments more than three weeks ago to the

749
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Speaker 2: previous proposal. Israel never replied, instead withdrawing its team and

750
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Speaker 2: threatening to quote conquer all of Gaza. Hamas official told

751
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Speaker 2: Reuters Group is approved the proposal, but provided no further details.

752
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Speaker 2: That proposal back by Egypt and Qatar calls for a

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Speaker 2: sixty day halt to military operations and offers a pathway

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Speaker 2: toward negotiating a comprehensive deal to end the nearly two

755
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Speaker 2: year genocidal war. Israel's response is pending, and I as

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Speaker 2: far as I know this morning, there hasn't been any

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Speaker 2: movement on the Israeli side, and so I wouldn't you

758
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Speaker 2: know basically what this calls for a sixty day ceasefire

759
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Speaker 2: while the further phases are being negotiated out to completely

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Speaker 2: and the war.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to talk to Jeremy yet,

763
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Speaker 2: but personally, I don't feel very helpful that the Israeli

764
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Speaker 2: side is going to accept this because they seem hell

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Speaker 2: bent on their complete ethnic cleansing plan and are you know,

766
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Speaker 2: moving forward with effectuating that outcome and putting that into places.

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Speaker 1: Well, yesterday Trump also had a tweet where he's like,

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Speaker 1: the only way we'll get rid of the hostages is

769
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Speaker 1: the occupation or destruction or whatever of Hamas. But it

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Speaker 1: is I mean, I don't know. At the same time,

771
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Speaker 1: there's long been a theory that the Trump rhetoric or

772
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Speaker 1: whatever is about pushing Hamas to continue accepting the ceasefire.

773
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Speaker 1: But part of as you and I, because we cover

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Speaker 1: it at a daily basis, this stuff almost always gets

775
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Speaker 1: to the quote finish line where it's like ninety eight

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Speaker 1: percent and the Israelis are like, no, you have to

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Speaker 1: agree to a full and total occupation for all time

778
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Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, well, no, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: do that, and that always just breaks down, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: the government, I mean, if they actually agreed to it,

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Speaker 1: it would cause a massive political crisis in Israel. The

782
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Speaker 1: government could fall because the Israeli far right ministers are

783
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Speaker 1: against any deal whatsoever. They want full blown occupation line.

784
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Speaker 1: It's already what they want. So yeah, it's very questionable

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Speaker 1: whether we'll actually go forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen this playbook so many times where

788
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Speaker 2: he'll not Nyahu will either. I mean, at this point,

789
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Speaker 2: I don't even it seems like they don't even feel

790
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Speaker 2: the need to lie anymore and pretend like they're doing

791
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Speaker 2: things in good faith. They're like they're acting morally. They

792
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Speaker 2: just are all out in the open, mask off with

793
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Speaker 2: all of this. But in the past we've seen him

794
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: in cert various poison pill provisions, even from the you know,

795
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Speaker 2: the deal member back in then when Biden announced We've

796
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Speaker 2: come up with this deal and listed all the provisions

797
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: and the Israelis are behind us, et cetera, Amus is like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we accept, and then Israel inserts all sorts of new

799
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Speaker 2: provisions and make sure that it's you know, impossible to

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Speaker 2: get through. You have, you know, the most psycho members

801
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Speaker 2: of the nat Yahu coalition Mitrich and Bengavia, who are

802
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: obviously completely opposed any sort of deal. So I think

803
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Speaker 2: it's unlikely it goes forward, but we wanted to make

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Speaker 2: sure to put the news out there.

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Speaker 3: About the latest.

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Speaker 2: We also have this as we could put this up

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Speaker 2: on the screen. There's this leaked audio from the head

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Speaker 2: of military intelligence on October seventh. This is our friend

809
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Speaker 2: Child who breaks it down. He says, it makes it

810
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Speaker 2: very clear Israeli policy is to kill tens of thousands

811
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Speaker 2: of Palestinians, including children, and ethnically cleanse them. Quote for everything,

812
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Speaker 2: this is from that head of military intelligence, for everything

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Speaker 2: that happened on October seventh. For every person on October seventh,

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Speaker 2: fifty Palestinians should die. It does not matter if they

815
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Speaker 2: are kids. There is nothing to be done. They need

816
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Speaker 2: a knakba every now and then to feel the price.

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Speaker 2: And Child goes on to say, this is not some

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Speaker 2: rogue extremist. This is the heart of the Israeli security establishment.

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Speaker 2: And this would be the type of person who would

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Speaker 2: be portrayed by the way as moderate within the Israeli context.

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Speaker 2: Just so we're all really clear, I think we have

822
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Speaker 2: the specific text of what this individual was saying. So

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Speaker 2: here's what the leaked audio, what the translation says. The

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Speaker 2: fact that there have already been fifty thousand deaths in

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Speaker 2: Gaza is necessary and required for future generations. Okay, you humiliated,

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Speaker 2: you slaughtered, you murdered.

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Speaker 3: Everything is true.

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Speaker 2: The price I said before the war for everything that

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Speaker 2: happened on October seventh, for every person, fifty Palestinians should die.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter now, kids, I'm not talking out of revenge.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about this as a message for future generations.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing to be done. They need a knock, but

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Speaker 2: every now and then to feel the price. There's no

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Speaker 2: choice in this disturbed neighborhood. There is no choice. So

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Speaker 2: lays it out pretty plainly. And by the way, you know,

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Speaker 2: at this point where we are all the experts who

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Speaker 2: have looked at this and estimated out and say there's

838
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, we don't know the exact

839
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Speaker 2: number who have been killed either directly by the fighting

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Speaker 2: under the rubble, died of malnutrition, of other illnesses, of

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Speaker 2: you know, not being able to get medical treatment for

842
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Speaker 2: chronic conditions, et cetera. That's where we are at this point.

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Speaker 2: We can to back that up. We can put E

844
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Speaker 2: three up on the screen because this is absolutely shocking.

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Speaker 3: If you have any.

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Speaker 2: Doubt about the extent of the horror and the outright

847
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Speaker 2: genocide that's going on here. Look at the fall off

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Speaker 2: in life expectancy since October seventh, so the darker blue

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Speaker 2: that you can see there, that just absolutely plummets, a

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Speaker 2: change in life expectancy of roughly minus thirty five years,

851
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Speaker 2: so thirty five years on average being cut off of

852
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Speaker 2: everyone's life in the Gaza strip unbelievable. And you can

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Speaker 2: see the comparison to other brutal wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq,

854
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Speaker 2: in Syria, in Yemen. You know, Syria is the closest comparison,

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Speaker 2: and it's you know, at its worst life expectance. He

856
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: dropped about twelve years, which again horrifying, horrifying numbers, but

857
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Speaker 2: pales in comparison to the scale of the slaughter and

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Speaker 2: destruction of life in Gaza, where life expectancy has plummeted

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Speaker 2: by thirty five years. It's just to see it in

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Speaker 2: that form is just absolutely chilling.

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Speaker 1: Zagera very grim. We can go to the next part too,

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Speaker 1: just to show people this. Let's put this. This guy,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if anybody doesn't remember, is the student

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Speaker 1: who cried on camera with Mike Johnson about not feeling

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Speaker 1: safe on campus since.

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Speaker 3: His Yeah, I didn't realize this is all lore.

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Speaker 1: Al since probably one of the most prominent I would say,

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Speaker 1: Zionist propaganda guys on Twitter, he says, quote breaking. Israel

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Speaker 1: is currently in talks with five countries Indonesia, Somala, Land, Uganda,

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Speaker 1: South Sudan, and Libya about the potential resettlement of Palestinians

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Speaker 1: from the Gaza strip. Kind of just saying it out loud.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did anyone notice that like three of

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Speaker 1: those countries are either failed or shaky governments, which are

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Speaker 1: worth more because they're money desperate, you know, for something

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00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: not exactly like thriving places that are capable of sustaining

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Speaker 1: their own population, let alone like I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: millions of people who would be expelled. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: just think it's kind of important for people to see.

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Speaker 1: What else am I thinking here? Oh right, this last one.

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Speaker 1: I can't get over this because it gives the whole

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Speaker 1: game away. Let's go and put E five on the

882
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Speaker 1: screen so they I love how they just say this

883
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: shit out loud and admit the game. The IDF is

884
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Speaker 1: planning on asking the Jewish diaspora to encourage Jewish youth

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Speaker 1: to join the IDF due to a severe man power shortage.

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Speaker 1: So let me just read that again. The IDF says

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Speaker 1: that they have a severe man power shortage and some

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Speaker 1: quote estimated at ten to twelve thousand that are missing

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Speaker 1: right now from idea Franks and because it would be

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Speaker 1: too shocking to Israeli politics to draft the ultra Orthodox,

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Speaker 1: who are all on welfare and live off of the Dole.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Dole America pays for just in terms,

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Speaker 1: so people understand, They now say they will need to

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Speaker 1: get some six to seven hundred dollars six to seven

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Speaker 1: hundred additional soldiers each year from Jewish communities abroad, who

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Speaker 1: added that the United States and France will be the

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Speaker 1: main targets of the IDF efforts. So basically, the IDF

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Speaker 1: is saying that the only way that they can sustain

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Speaker 1: their manpower and gaza is to basically propagandize and ask

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Speaker 1: American citizens residents of the United States and of France

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00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: to move to their country and to go and serve

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Speaker 1: in their military, which they know will not result in

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Speaker 1: them losing US citizenship and also will basically quote deepen

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Speaker 1: the ties. That's always the way that they talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Between those two face no consequences, and it's an open

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Speaker 1: part of their recruitment strategy. Imagine if America was like,

907
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Speaker 1: we don't have enough troops, so we're gonna call on

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Speaker 1: I mean, actually, there's no parallel, there's no ethnic component

909
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Speaker 1: of being a mari across the world. There's no other

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Speaker 1: country in the world that could do this or get

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Speaker 1: away with it. I mean, wouldn't people be outraged. Imagine

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Speaker 1: if Indian Pakistan got into a war and they were like,

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Speaker 1: we call all Indians of Indian descent to come back

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Speaker 1: and to fight. The Germans actually did this, the Nazis did.

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Speaker 1: I forget what exactly what it was called. They're like

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Speaker 1: all loyal Germans.

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Speaker 3: Very Nazi soil behaved.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, so all, yeah, what the Nazis

919
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Speaker 1: did is that I forget the exact term. It's in German.

920
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Speaker 1: But they were like, any loyal German must return to

921
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Speaker 1: the fatherland to come and to fight for Hitler at lo.

922
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Speaker 1: It wasn't all that successful, just so people were aware.

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Speaker 1: But that's effectively like the equivalent of what they say.

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Speaker 1: They're like any Jew who is really patriotic, the conflation

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Speaker 1: of Judaism in the state of Israel, which is always sickening.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just today Natagna who attacked the Prime Minister

927
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Speaker 1: of Australia who said that he had abandoned Australia's Jews

928
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Speaker 1: because he was willing to recognize the state of Palestine.

929
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Speaker 1: That literally just happened this morning.

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Speaker 2: There is nothing more anti Semitic than saying every Jew

931
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Speaker 2: has associated with this genocidal holocaust, like it's there is

932
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Speaker 2: utterly disgusting. But I mean also a part of me

933
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Speaker 2: is like listen, if you feel moved to you know,

934
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Speaker 2: if you want to put like if you're pro genocide,

935
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Speaker 2: you want to go be part of.

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Speaker 3: That, go like get out of here.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is because they can come back.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem because what happened, I mean, then they

939
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Speaker 2: come back and they end up the head of censorship

940
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Speaker 2: at TikTok or we're working for the New York Times

941
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Speaker 2: or any work.

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Speaker 1: Somebody protests them an American and then they get investigated

943
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Speaker 1: by the dj which is literally happening.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So so yeah, I

945
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Speaker 2: can't I can't say that not to mention. I mean,

946
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Speaker 2: it's just yeah, it's it's very revealing. Another very revealing

947
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Speaker 2: thing that I don't even know what to say about.

948
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Speaker 2: I can't even really wrap my head around it. Let's

949
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Speaker 2: put the six up on the screen. There was a

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Speaker 2: Kannesset Special Committee on Foreign Workers that performed an investigation

951
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Speaker 2: of the Thai agricultural workers who were are there in

952
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Speaker 2: the state of Israel, and they found that six hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty four out of six hundred and fifty four

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Speaker 2: had reported experiencing sexual assault. One hundred percent of the

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Speaker 2: tie foreign workers who were there reported being sexually assaulted

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Speaker 2: as part of this study. Now, they don't typically report

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Speaker 2: it to the authorities. One can only presume because first

958
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Speaker 2: of all, they're worried about losing their job, losing their status,

959
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: don't think they'll be believed, et cetera. But in this

960
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Speaker 2: person who finds the same state that markets itself as

961
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Speaker 2: a democracy relies on imported farm labor, then terms a

962
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Speaker 2: blind eye as sexual violence becomes routine, silenced, and systemic.

963
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: So just disgusting abuses here that you know are lurking

964
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Speaker 2: under the surface of the society and sometimes not on

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Speaker 2: the surface.

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Speaker 1: I genuinely don't even know what to say about that.

967
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Speaker 1: It's crazy, Yes, that's all you can say. I don't

968
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Speaker 1: know what's going on over there. It's I mean, it's wild.

969
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: It is really wild to wrap your het around. And

970
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Speaker 2: I don't think Israelis, like fundamentally as human beings, are

971
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Speaker 2: any different than human beings around, which is why it's

972
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: so unsettling when you see these polls that are like, yeah,

973
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Speaker 2: they're all for the ethnic cleansing, like even the quote

974
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Speaker 2: unquote liberal ones they're down with it. They are you know,

975
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Speaker 2: huge numbers are like yes, murder every Palestinian. And You're

976
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Speaker 2: just like, how does this happen in a society? And

977
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Speaker 2: it's years and years of ideological propagandizing, It's years and

978
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: years of complete and total dehuman humanization of Palestinians or

979
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Speaker 2: Arabs overall.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's I don't know.

981
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: There need to be studies of what the hell has

982
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Speaker 2: gone wrong in this society because it's truly.

983
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Speaker 1: Sick intellectually, and I can understand it because I've read

984
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Speaker 1: a lot about it in terms of the I mean,

985
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: look at the way that Americans treated the Japanese or

986
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: like Japanese Americans, right and not only in terment camps,

987
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: but even worse like in terms of the propaganda and

988
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: the way that we all looked at the war. And

989
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about that, I'm not talking just

990
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: about the atomic bomb, but really like the way that

991
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: they would cheer it and look, I mean, that's not

992
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: absolving the literal Japanese War war crimes and like barbaric

993
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: behavior for thirteen years in the war, but it's part

994
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: of that where you could see how that could happen

995
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: in the forties and the fifties, because that's when information

996
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: was much more controlled. It's a lot harder to understand

997
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five, in the age of

998
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: the smartphone. It actually makes me doubt whether the information

999
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: age makes people more informed at all. I actually think

1000
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: we may all be less informed than ever if you

1001
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: don't want to be, because if you don't seek things out,

1002
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: you actually just won't see it. You can see almost

1003
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: anything of what you want. It's not even controlled by

1004
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: the government at that point. It's like creating your own

1005
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: spaces and then nothing can enter that, right, and so

1006
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: you can actually live in a reality where every child

1007
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: in Gaza is a you know, is a hamas.

1008
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: Reading mind coom from the time that they're two years old.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's not the FDR people who have to tell

1010
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: you that. It's like you're all socially reinforcing it and

1011
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: it kind of bubbles up from the surface. But I

1012
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, it is genuinely a sociological study

1013
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: of like this is a Western stufle country for you,

1014
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: or sold itself that way. It's always had weird you know,

1015
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: little idiosyncrensies. But I've visited there. I'm telling you, if

1016
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you go to Tel Aviv, it's did not feel all

1017
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: that different from Los Angeles. I really, I really want

1018
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: people to understand that. And so to watch that. I

1019
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: was there twelve years ago, so to look at that

1020
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: from there to now, it's shocking. You know, it's shocking

1021
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: the way that it's all flipped on at it. People

1022
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Speaker 1: I probably met and spent time with, you know, are

1023
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: either fighting or supportive.

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00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1025
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. And I see that in their podcast

1026
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Speaker 1: where they say this stuff in English and they're like,

1027
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: it makes me happy when I see guys in Starbuck. Yeah, dude,

1028
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: it's great.

1029
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: Those two guys was their podcast called like two Nice

1030
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: Jewish Boys or something like that, and they're like, it

1031
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: makes me when I'm watching a soccer football game, it

1032
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: makes me feel better to know that Palestinians are sufferings.

1033
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: That heightens the enjoyment of the experience for me. How

1034
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: fucking I say that? Just sick And you're right, and

1035
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: I'll actually like it is a hard thing, like emotionally

1036
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: to grapple with. It's a hard thing to matt because

1037
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Speaker 2: you think we've evolved and oh, we have these like

1038
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: progressive values and we try to you know, we don't

1039
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Speaker 2: live up to it, but we try to be more

1040
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Speaker 2: tolerant of all different types of people. And we don't

1041
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: have this like race science that says, oh, no different

1042
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: races or but they Zionism is built on a supremacist ideology,

1043
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: on a Jewish supremacist ideology, and I truly think that

1044
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Speaker 2: that is a cancer. If you have an ideology that

1045
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: says one group is better, more deserving, gets more rights

1046
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: than another group, then all sorts of horrors flow directly

1047
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: from there, because if they're not truly human, you can

1048
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Speaker 2: do anything too. You can abuse them, you can rape them,

1049
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: you can murder them, you can starve their children, you

1050
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: can lie about all of it, and it's that bedrock

1051
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: ideological foundation that I think allows all of that to flow.

1052
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Speaker 2: And then the use of religion too makes it extra

1053
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: ponent because if God is saying, hey, this is like

1054
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: you're doing the right thing per God, that it provides

1055
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: this more like moral justification for absolute horrors.

1056
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Speaker 3: So it's pretty all right going on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it.

1058
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Speaker 1: We'll have a Wednesday show. Tomorrow is I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what day of the.

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Speaker 2: Weekday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Definitely we'll be in.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we'll see you on Thursday.