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Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine.

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Speaker 2: Oh hello Chelsea. Thanksgiving Day today.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Happy Thanksgiving, guys, Happy Thanksgiving. I am in the

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Speaker 3: process of picking out a new dog, a rescue, a

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Speaker 3: half chow rescue. I'm dealing with this chow chow company

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Speaker 3: in Houston that only has chows. I'm forgetting a dog

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Speaker 3: for Whistler. I'm bringing one dog to Whistler. Bernice does

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Speaker 3: not like Whistler, so she's going to stay back with

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Speaker 3: my Belle and her lover, Fernando, who's my Bell's son.

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Speaker 3: They send me illicted pictures of them multiple times a day,

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Speaker 3: of her in bed with Fernando under his arms, sleeping

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Speaker 3: under the covers, which is a joke because she doesn't

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Speaker 3: fucking do that, so obviously they're staging these photos. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I am leaving her behind because I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: abuse of making her come to Whistler with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes just don't travel.

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Speaker 3: I don't want her to have to travel, so, but

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Speaker 3: I do need a dog, so I'm gonna pick one

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Speaker 3: up and get a winter dog.

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Speaker 1: And I am choosing between three male dogs.

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Speaker 3: One is named Doug, one is named Albi, and one

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Speaker 3: is named Jim and I there are all between one

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Speaker 3: to two years and they're not like the most they're not.

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Speaker 3: I really want a full full chow. I want the

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Speaker 3: full blown Yeah, but I don't want to buy a dog.

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Speaker 3: I think that's gross. I probably will do it anyway

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Speaker 3: at some point, but I'm gonna rescue now. Good for you,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna yeah. So I'm just gonna keep you

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Speaker 3: posted on that. I'm just they're not the cutest dogs

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Speaker 3: and these are all very cute.

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Speaker 1: Dogs, but they're not.

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, that's how great of a

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Speaker 3: parent I am. I'm still gonna get a dog, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think is perfect.

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Speaker 1: Don't judge a dog, Bay, it's cover, No, I know.

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Speaker 1: I learned that the hard way.

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Speaker 3: I sat next to somebody at an event recently and

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, no, I'm sitting next to this person,

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Speaker 3: and then we had a fucking blast and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, I like you.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes people are surprising, Yeah they are.

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Speaker 3: It's hard not to judge a book by its cover,

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Speaker 3: because sometimes people make it so hard to not judge

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Speaker 3: them by the way they look, because they're the way

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Speaker 3: they look is so ridiculous, right, or.

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Speaker 5: Like they they look like a specific kind of person

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Speaker 5: you already have sort of a groove for in your brain,

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Speaker 5: and you're like, oh, they're gonna be like this, and

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Speaker 5: then sometimes.

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Speaker 2: They just like shock you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I remember growing up like I was always afraid to

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Speaker 5: go into hot topic. But that's like where they had

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Speaker 5: all the stuff that I wanted to buy, and I

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Speaker 5: finally braved it and went in. Well, I was like

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Speaker 5: in sixth grade, and then everyone in there was so nice,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, wait, all.

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Speaker 2: The nicest people are actually in hot topic?

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Speaker 1: What is hot topic?

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's like the goth teenagers at them all. That's

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Speaker 5: why I haven't heard of it back.

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Speaker 2: When we had malls. You are headed to Whistler soon.

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Speaker 4: How long are you going for I'm going for winter, yes,

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Speaker 4: like four months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is December through.

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Speaker 3: I have all my Canadian dates there, so I'm doing

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Speaker 3: I'm basing myself out of Whistler.

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Speaker 1: My house is still not ready. It'll never be ready.

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Speaker 1: I guess your house here.

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Speaker 3: And I just came from a meeting again. I'm constantly

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Speaker 3: going to meetings and then I'm constantly picking out things.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, didn't we already pick this out? I really

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Speaker 3: can't even express how long this has taken.

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Speaker 5: No, truly, Like when we met, you were shopping for

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Speaker 5: a house and then you bought one and it's still

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Speaker 5: being ready me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would love the time frame because it

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be ready in August.

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Speaker 1: Before that, it was supposed to be ready in June. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now we're in at the end of November and they're

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Speaker 1: saying December.

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Speaker 5: So we started record I think in February twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I spent two years in a rental house,

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Speaker 3: so that's to raisis to twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Here we are two and a half years later.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't happen to a better person, you guys, couldn't happen

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Speaker 3: to a better person?

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Speaker 2: So true, Chelsea. We have a pretty exciting guest today.

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Speaker 3: Please welcome co host of the Hawk Versus Wolf podcast

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Speaker 3: and skateboarding the Legend, Tony Hawk.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, Tony Hawk.

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Speaker 1: Tony Hawk is with here.

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Speaker 3: Tony Hawk is with here today. Everybody okay, and I'm

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Speaker 3: here too with us?

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Speaker 1: Tony. How are you nice to meet you?

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Speaker 6: You too, Thank you? Thanks for having me. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever met before.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we know a lot of the same people,

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Speaker 6: but I don't think we've officially met. So nice to

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Speaker 6: meet you. Thank you. Yeah, I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Likewise, I mean, I'm a very big admirer of everything

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Speaker 3: you've accomplished in your life in your sport. I know

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Speaker 3: that you came big on the scene with skateboarding. You

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Speaker 3: were like it was the eighties and you invented it's

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Speaker 3: called the nine hun. Can you explain to our female

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Speaker 3: listeners what that is in case any of them don't know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that refers to degrees of rotation, So it

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Speaker 6: is basically a two and a half spin in the air,

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Speaker 6: kind of like what you would see on a trapeze,

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Speaker 6: but from a ramp and coming back down the ramp

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Speaker 6: without anything to catch you.

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Speaker 3: How does it compare to what Simone Biles has been

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Speaker 3: up to these last few weeks.

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Speaker 6: I it would be like if Simone Biles was trying

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Speaker 6: finally made it once.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, and then also landed on wheels. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: well she might not be far behind you.

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Speaker 6: I'm not discounting what she does at all. I'm a

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Speaker 6: huge fan of Simone Biles. I'm just saying like, this

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Speaker 6: X Games in nineteen ninety nine. So it resonated a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, I did a bunch of people mimic you after

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeaheah. Actually within that same year, two other guys

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Speaker 6: So now we have three and a half spins. It's

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Speaker 6: different setup, but it's amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is amazing.

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Speaker 3: So when you when you're able to perfect something like that,

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Speaker 3: how many more times are you able to do it?

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Speaker 3: After you were able to pull it off at the

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Speaker 6: I could after that, I could do it pretty regularly.

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Speaker 6: I would say I probably did it forty to fifty

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Speaker 6: you know it's possible. Yeah, it's a little easier to navigate.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh. And when was the last time you were

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Speaker 6: I did it about five years ago, six years ago,

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Speaker 6: and it was so hard to do at that I

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Speaker 6: that's definitely the last one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked what I read about you.

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Speaker 3: About you so skateboarding, you were kind of it was

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Speaker 6: I was very much involved.

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Speaker 6: I think there was a perfect storm of events happening.

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Speaker 6: At the time. Skating was in a lull of popularity,

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Speaker 6: It was more like a street element, street culture thing.

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Speaker 6: And then the X games came around in ninety five.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me a little bit about recently. Didn't you

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Speaker 3: have a you broke your femur, right, I did. How

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Speaker 6: I was during skateboarding, yes, uh.

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Speaker 1: And that was more recent. That was like a year

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Speaker 6: That was last March. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: First of all, let's talk about mental health during an injury,

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Speaker 3: because especially when you're an athlete, I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about being an athlete and your mental health space transitioning

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Speaker 3: meaning your youth, and what that does because you have children.

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Speaker 3: what that is like a let's start from transitioning out

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Speaker 1: And so what did that feel like.

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Speaker 6: When you say transitioning out of being at the top

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Speaker 6: that was it. I was doing a trick that I

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Speaker 6: had done thousands of times. I didn't have enough speed

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Speaker 6: or I didn't have the usual amount of speed. I

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Speaker 6: came down on the ramp sooner than expected and just

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Speaker 6: that was very difficult. I've actually had sort of a

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Speaker 6: failed round of recovery because I got back on my

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Speaker 6: about eight months later. And ever since then, I've been

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Speaker 6: I felt like that was my identity, even though I

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Speaker 6: I advocate for skating and public skate parks and the like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard a lot of really famous men talk

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Speaker 6: You've got to include the local skaters, You've got to

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, and yeah, that's incredible, incredible contribution.

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Speaker 3: Is this something you envisioned to do at some point

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Speaker 6: this year with this online competition that we did through Colossal,

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Speaker 6: and so I'm still very much involved.

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Speaker 3: Something that you talk about that, I can relate to

445
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Speaker 3: a lot is envisioning what you want to happen happening,

446
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Speaker 3: Like when you focus on the negative, that can become bigger,

447
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Speaker 3: and when you focus on the positive, then that can

448
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Speaker 3: become your reality.

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Speaker 1: So will you speak to me a little bit about

450
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Speaker 1: that in terms of competition or in regular life.

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Speaker 6: I think my best parallel to that is how how

452
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Speaker 6: I approach learning new tricks. And my approach to learning

453
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Speaker 6: new tricks is that it is possible, and I have

454
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Speaker 6: visualized it to completion and the success of it, and

455
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Speaker 6: I don't go at it going man, I hope I

456
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Speaker 6: don't get hurt. You know, oh, I just might go wrong,

457
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Speaker 6: because if those things are in my head, those are

458
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Speaker 6: the ones that end up coming to fruition. So I'm

459
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Speaker 6: always on in the moment, even if it's like extremely

460
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Speaker 6: difficult and I'm exhausted, I'm still there, going, this is possible.

461
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Speaker 6: You got to make it happen. And sometimes it doesn't

462
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Speaker 6: happen that day, but eventually it does happen. And so

463
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Speaker 6: I have the same approach to life in terms of

464
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Speaker 6: how we raise our kids, what we wish for them,

465
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Speaker 6: We help them through our positivity and through our not expectations,

466
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Speaker 6: but hopes for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well your your visions of positive it's like a

468
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Speaker 3: positive like, you know, envisioning positive outcomes for everything is

469
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Speaker 3: a really great way to go through life, to go

470
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Speaker 3: through anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean to constantly worry, worry, worry.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just had this experience with a friend who

473
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Speaker 3: was so worried about the situation, so worried, so worried,

474
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Speaker 3: so worried, and I'm like, I couldn't get to her

475
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Speaker 3: to explain to her, like the worrying is actually making

476
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Speaker 3: the problem bigger than it needs to be. This is

477
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Speaker 3: an unlikely outcome, and you are focusing on the most

478
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Speaker 3: unlikely outcome rather than.

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Speaker 6: The most extreme scenario.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, rather what the most positive outcome could be.

481
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Speaker 3: And sure enough, we just found out this weekend that

482
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Speaker 3: the most positive outcome happened exactly what she had been

483
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Speaker 3: worried about happening, you know, the opposite thing happened. And

484
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Speaker 3: I know it's hard to tell people not to worry,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, because it's that's like in your it's like

486
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Speaker 3: in part of your DNA and your genetic makeup, I think,

487
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Speaker 3: but there is a practice that to be learned of

488
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Speaker 3: thinking positive lee about things, and positivity does have definitely

489
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Speaker 3: breeds more positivity. There's no doubt about that that can

490
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Speaker 3: be scientifically proven at this point. Do you do any

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Speaker 3: sort of meditation or anything like that, Tony.

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Speaker 6: I don't. I feel like my skating has always been

493
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Speaker 6: my meditation, and I sense that more now than ever.

494
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Speaker 6: For instance, we were just traveling a bunch and going

495
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Speaker 6: to much events. I did not get to skate for

496
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Speaker 6: almost two weeks, and I felt very on edge and realized,

497
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Speaker 6: you know, I wouldn't have connected that before. I would

498
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Speaker 6: just have related it to stress or whatever, or a

499
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Speaker 6: crazy schedule. But I realized, like, I haven't skated, and

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Speaker 6: I went skated for a couple hours the other day,

501
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Speaker 6: and all that anxiety just washed away. And I wasn't

502
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Speaker 6: pushing it hard. I wasn't trying anything extravagant or dangerous.

503
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Speaker 6: It was just more that I got out there and

504
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Speaker 6: that was my meditation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting when you talk about, like, you know,

506
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Speaker 3: athletes and like the tremendous pressure you I'm sure experienced

507
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Speaker 3: as a younger competitor, the pressure that you put on

508
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Speaker 3: yourself attached to the very thing you love the most

509
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Speaker 3: to do and even at that time, being able to

510
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Speaker 3: imagine a time where you could enjoy it without the pressure.

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Speaker 6: It is, yeah, and I don't. And he used to

512
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Speaker 6: always be I needed a directive, I needed a goal,

513
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Speaker 6: like I need. I needed something to aspire to when

514
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Speaker 6: I'd go skate and I and now it's just like,

515
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Speaker 6: I just want to go out there and play the

516
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Speaker 6: hits and cruise and have fun and see my friends

517
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Speaker 6: and laugh and then go home sweaty. That's what I'm

518
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Speaker 6: aspiring to cute.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we're going to take a quick break and

521
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Speaker 3: then we're going to be right back and we're going

522
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Speaker 3: to take.

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Speaker 1: Some calls and we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're back. Are you ready to give some advice? Tony?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know. Are my kids calling in? If so, yes,

526
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Speaker 6: they are not.

527
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Speaker 1: We blocked them from calling. Don't worry. They wanted to,

528
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Speaker 1: but we said no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Wet's start with a caller. Our first email comes from Chris.

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Speaker 5: Chris says, Dear Chelsea. When my kids were grown, I

531
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Speaker 5: went back to college during a nasty divorce. I started

532
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Speaker 5: taking ski lessons through the school to deal with the stress,

533
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Speaker 5: and I loved it. There was something about writing to

534
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Speaker 5: the top and feeling the freedom of looking down the

535
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Speaker 5: mountain or the bunny slope in the beginning, and I

536
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Speaker 5: felt great every time I made it to the bottom.

537
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Speaker 2: As I started to get better, the man.

538
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Speaker 5: I was dating at the time decided I should go

539
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Speaker 5: skiing with him, which to this day I regret. He

540
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Speaker 5: had skied his whole life and had me moving across

541
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Speaker 5: the mountain from the beginner slopes to the harder ones

542
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Speaker 5: without even looking back to see how I was doing.

543
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Speaker 5: When I was coming down a harder slope, someone hit

544
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Speaker 5: me and I fell. He left me in the injury

545
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Speaker 5: hut and continued to ski, and yes, we broke up

546
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Speaker 5: shortly after that. I needed surgery and was in recovery

547
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Speaker 5: for a while.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: My question is I've gone skiing since this happened, but

551
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Speaker 5: I'm still afraid that someone is going to run into me.

552
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Speaker 5: Do you have any advice or tricks that could help

553
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Speaker 5: me in overcoming my fear. I want to have that

554
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Speaker 5: feeling of freedom and that sense of accomplishment I had

555
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Speaker 5: in the beginning without being afraid.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Chris, and she'll join us here.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that Chris? She looks like a beautiful meadow. Hi, Chris, Hi,

558
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Speaker 1: CHRISI Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 8: Thank you? I am in the beautiful meadow.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice background. Well, our special guest here is

561
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Speaker 1: Tony Hawk. Tony, I'm going to let.

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Speaker 3: You start with this since it's a overcoming a fear

563
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Speaker 3: kind of question, and then I will chime in.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry that happened to you, and just know

565
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Speaker 6: that it is very unlikely for that sort of thing

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Speaker 6: to happen, especially when you're on the sort of beginner

567
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Speaker 6: intermediate slopes. Generally, people are all sort of looking out

568
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Speaker 6: for each other unless someone is very beginner and out

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Speaker 6: of control. But I think that you survived a worst

570
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Speaker 6: case scenario for the most part, and it's you know,

571
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Speaker 6: the old, the old cliche, get back on the horse.

572
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Speaker 6: If you get back out there and you really just

573
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Speaker 6: start to enjoy it and enjoy the freedom of it,

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Speaker 6: I think you'll gain that confidence back and also you'll

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Speaker 6: be able to be more aware of your surroundings.

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Speaker 7: Right, thank you.

577
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Speaker 8: Yes, I do want that freedom back to enjoy because

578
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Speaker 8: I loved it. I loved every second of it until

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Speaker 8: that happen, and now I have like this gripping fear,

580
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Speaker 8: and now I'm like so tense and I want to

581
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Speaker 8: get back to where I was.

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Speaker 6: But you're also being led by someone with great experience

583
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Speaker 6: and not considering that maybe you shouldn't be in those

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Speaker 6: areas or and that kind of thing can really be

585
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Speaker 6: a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 1: M absolutely listen.

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Speaker 3: Part of your fear that you've already walked through the

588
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Speaker 3: door of it, because you're already back out there trying

589
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Speaker 3: to ski again.

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Speaker 1: So that's half of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you've already stepped through that doorway, and you don't

592
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Speaker 3: have to live in that fear because you're not going

593
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Speaker 3: to put yourself in that situation again. You're not going

594
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Speaker 3: to put yourself on a mountain or a run that

595
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel comfortable to you. You're going to take it

596
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Speaker 3: easy and you're going to enjoy the very thing you

597
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: loved about skiing, which was the open air and the

598
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: freedom within it and going down a hill at whatever

599
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Speaker 3: speed you feel comfortable in without overdoing it. I had

600
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Speaker 3: been dragged down a mountain by a man before. I

601
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Speaker 3: have ended up in a gully by myself that I

602
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: had to climb out of my ski boots with and

603
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Speaker 3: I never spoke to that man again either. So there

604
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Speaker 3: can be a lack of conscientiousness regarding others, especially when

605
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: you are around men and sports. They think, just keep up,

606
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: if you're worth your assault, you'll be able to find

607
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: me at the bottom of the hill. And the answer

608
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: to that is fuck off. So I'm glad that you

609
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: never spoke to him again. I'm glad that you're healthy

610
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Speaker 3: enough to be using your body again to ski and

611
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Speaker 3: do the very thing that he introduced you to. So

612
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Speaker 3: there is a silver lining. You know, the person that

613
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Speaker 3: kind of gave you a bad experience is also the

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Speaker 3: one who introduced you to the experience.

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Speaker 1: Correct, No, he was not.

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Speaker 8: I started skiing after a divorce and I wanted to

617
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Speaker 8: try something new and something free, and that's what I

618
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Speaker 8: started with. It just that he just came along after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well think of that as a second divorce. And

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Speaker 1: now you can party. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So you've gotten those two people out of your way

622
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Speaker 3: and now you can have a good time. And I

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Speaker 3: think you should just say a little mantra to yourself

624
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Speaker 3: when you are skiing down the mountain. I am safe,

625
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: I am okay, I am careful, I am safe.

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00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I'm careful. Just don't put yourself in a

627
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Speaker 1: situation where you're out of your element.

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Speaker 3: And even if you do, even if you end up

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Speaker 3: on a scarier run than you're used to, you're still safe.

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Speaker 3: You just proceed with caution, you know what I mean.

631
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Speaker 3: You have more skills now and then you did then,

632
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Speaker 3: And you proceed with caution, and just remind yourself you're

633
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay. And I think if you repeat.

635
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Speaker 3: That to yourself while you're skiing, it starts to kind

636
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Speaker 3: of live in your body in a little bit more

637
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Speaker 3: of a deep, more meaningful way.

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Speaker 5: And I think taking a step that's a little easier

639
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Speaker 5: than what you think is sort of your max. You know,

640
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: one step easier than what you're you feel comfortable with

641
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Speaker 5: might get you back doing.

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Speaker 2: It a little bit more.

643
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Speaker 5: But if you aren't finding that you're able to get

644
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Speaker 5: past this fear, you might try some EMDR therapy. I

645
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 5: think for an event like this, that can help you

646
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Speaker 5: process the trauma and also sort of reframe it.

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Speaker 2: Especially for something that's.

648
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Speaker 5: So physical and hadst long recovery time, which I know

649
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Speaker 5: Tony went through just recently as well, that can help

650
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Speaker 5: with this lingering fear in the back of your mind

651
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Speaker 5: of like, oh my gosh, there's somebody going to crash

652
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Speaker 5: into me.

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Speaker 6: It'll get easier, though each time you might not notice

654
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Speaker 6: how incremental it is. But at some point you'll be

655
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Speaker 6: on the on the slopes thinking, oh, I'm not worried

656
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Speaker 6: about that anymore, and it'll happen.

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Speaker 8: Great, because I'd like to hit up Blake Placid this

658
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Speaker 8: year if I'm lucky.

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Speaker 1: Do it, do it, do it well? Then come on,

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Speaker 1: let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Go you got it, Chris, send us a picture from

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Speaker 2: the slopes.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I will definitely do that. I thank you and

664
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 8: thank you so much for your time and help today.

665
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 8: I really really appreciate it.

666
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you're so welcome. Thanks for calling in.

667
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 7: Thanks Chris, thank you.

668
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Right bye, guys, good bye. That was easy. Problem solved.

669
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: To see how easy that was, we'll see.

670
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

671
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 5: No, but I do think what you said, you know

672
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: about having those reps and just doing it several times,

673
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: it's like you have less of a fear of like

674
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: this is the time I'm going to get hurt, because

675
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: you have more experience of like, oh I'm not getting hurt.

676
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: I was once skiing with this guy that I was dating,

677
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: Andre Bilage. I'm starting to just drop all my exes

678
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 3: names in public life so they can all But I

679
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: was one.

680
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: Skiing with him.

681
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: I think we were an Aspen some film festivals, so

682
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: maybe it was Sundance and we were the Kennedys, a

683
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: group of the Kennedys, and they started skiing and I

684
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: just I had skied my childhood, but never like, you know,

685
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: to a very strong degree, so I could ski, but

686
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to get down, you know, something

687
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: hard easily, and I had no technique. And they all

688
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: made a write and as soon as I just saw

689
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: what was going on, I'm like, I don't want any

690
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: part of this, Like there's no way I'm going to

691
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: be able to get down what they're going down. There

692
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: was a jump they had to jump into the next run,

693
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: and I was like, I just stopped, took my skis off,

694
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: and then like three other people came and they're like,

695
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: what the fuck is that. I was like, I'm not

696
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: doing that, Will you guys please do not.

697
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 6: Do it with me?

698
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: And they're like yeah. And I remember when we came down.

699
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: To the bottom of the hill, we all met up

700
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: for whatever lunch or whatever. I was like, hey, asshole,

701
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: we're on a date, Like, how could you ditch me

702
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: like that? And he said, any woman worth her salt

703
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: would be able to get down the mountain.

704
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: That's when he said to me, nope, And I was

705
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: like what anyway?

706
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: And that's my story where I got ditched and that

707
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: relationship was a hot mess because I got ditched too.

708
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, So my experiences with dates or significant others were

709
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: just me teaching them. So it was it was a

710
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 6: mutual frustration, but it was never right right, you know.

711
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 6: It was never I'm out of here. It was more like,

712
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 6: we're going to get down the mountain. It's going to happen.

713
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: Nothing worse than a man who has no regard for

714
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: a female safety when you're on a date.

715
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: There's nothing more.

716
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can imagine.

717
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: Disturbing and you snowboard right, Tony, Yes, Yeah.

718
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 5: This next question is a little bit of a tricky one,

719
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: but Tony, I thought you could help us with this

720
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 5: since you are sort of known for tweeting about these

721
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: like awkward interactions that.

722
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: You have with folks who are like you look just

723
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: like Tony Hawk.

724
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: But don't think that you're Tony Hawk. Et cetera.

725
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 5: So this is an awkward social media quandary. Dear Chelsea,

726
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 5: please help me with this very modern TikTok social media nightmare.

727
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 5: This sum my dad mentioned he was getting bored, so

728
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: I told him all about TikTok and how he can

729
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: use it to watch funny videos and search for things

730
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: he's interested in. A few days later, he called to

731
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: say how much he loves TikTok and I've been sending

732
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 5: all of the family. My mother and sister included funny videos,

733
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: and I told him to send some to me. The

734
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 5: next day, he sent me a cute video of dogs

735
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: getting washed and sinks. Something made me curious about the

736
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 5: other accounts he follows. The problem my father exclusively follows

737
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: swinger accounts, ultra skinny women with gigantic boobs, and accounts

738
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: of women eating bananas digestively my eyes. Good for him,

739
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 5: I guess, albeit I wish I hadn't seen the list.

740
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: The problem is he's sending these videos to everyone he

741
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: knows without realizing the accounts he follows are.

742
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: Easy to see.

743
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: So he's basically sending my mom, sister, and all of

744
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: his aunts a direct database of all his fetishes for

745
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: all to see. Please God give me a way of

746
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: addressing this with him so he stops sending everyone links

747
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 5: to his kinks in a way that will also make

748
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: sure he doesn't get funny with me or annoyed.

749
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: Help Robert from the UK, I mean, that's pretty straightforward.

750
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Just show your father exactly what he's doing. Going this

751
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: is how this comes up on my phone.

752
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 6: This is very transparent. Yeah, it's so obvious to everyone,

753
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 6: and like it's one thing. I mean, it's a little

754
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 6: too late, but at least he gets saved some phase.

755
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: But it's also like it's also like, first of all,

756
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: it's so upsetting that I even have to know about this,

757
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 3: and now I have to explain to you that you

758
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: have to keep it to yourself, which is a disgusting

759
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: thing that I now have to know you're doing in

760
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: your private time. I know, which I guess everyone has

761
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: the right for their own fetishes as long as it's

762
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: not harming anybody else. But it is emotionally harmful to

763
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: know that your father's into some sick shit.

764
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: The women eating bananas, that one really gets me, honestly.

765
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you have to confront him and show

766
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: him and go Dad, you've got to stop forwarding this stuff.

767
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: If you want to do follow this stuff, great, I

768
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: mean not great. But if you want to follow this stuff,

769
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: that's up your own right, but you can you have

770
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: to stop sharing with it because you're giving everybody a

771
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: day base of what you're doing.

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00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: Right, Tony, would you just like tell him, uh.

773
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. It's you know, it's my simple

774
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 6: parallel would be like, you got some mustard right here,

775
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 6: like everyone can see it, everyone can see this issue.

776
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

777
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: See me as someone who is like more of a

778
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 5: people pleaser, I would probably be like, look at my account,

779
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: here's where you can see all the accounts I follow,

780
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: and like, hope he puts two and two together that

781
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 5: everyone can see who he follows.

782
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: But no, you just be direct, so twissy cat around

783
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: all these fucking people.

784
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, you're doing him a favor.

785
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 6: It's like, I'm not gonna I think that's it. You're

786
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: doing a favor by being the most obvious about it. Absolutely.

787
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 6: I think that you know, I respect people that we'll

788
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: just tell you even when you're out in public or whatever.

789
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 6: It's like, hey man, your flies down, like thank you,

790
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 6: because no one everyone's embarrassed to do that or whatever

791
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 6: it is.

792
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, where it's like I agreed with you, that guy

793
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: saved you.

794
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I know I'm making up these comparisons,

795
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 6: but it would just benefit him so much more. And

796
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 6: it's like, Dad, everyone could see that you're into this

797
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 6: banana thing swingers, like everyone can see it.

798
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so just be direct, Yes, direct, direct is

799
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: the best way forward. Everybody, See, it's everybody a lot

800
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: of time in agony.

801
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: For sure.

802
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 5: Our next caller is Jennifer. She's a police officer in Canada.

803
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: Dear Chelsea, I'm writing to you because my doctor recommended

804
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 5: I see a therapist. You sadly did not make the

805
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: list of recommended therapists in my area, but I thought

806
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: i'd reach out anyway. I'm thirty one and I'm five

807
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 5: years into being a police officer in Canada. Until last year,

808
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: I loved being a police officer and found purpose in it.

809
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 5: But now I just keep thinking about quitting. In twenty

810
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 5: twenty one, my boyfriend and I welcome to daughter. She

811
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 5: was planned into the world. I thought I would still

812
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 5: be the same person I was before she was born.

813
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: Career driven, striving to be the best police officer I

814
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: could be, but after maternity leave last year, my heart's

815
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 5: not in it anymore. I feel guilty leaving my daughter

816
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: at our various childcare arrangements while working twelve hour shifts. Basically,

817
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 5: I'm feeling that my career is taking all of my energy,

818
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: and I want to put all of my energy into

819
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 5: my daughter's life and activities.

820
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't want her.

821
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 5: At eighteen hating us, thinking her parents put their all

822
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 5: into everyone else's problems instead of focusing on her. I

823
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: want healthy meals on the table. I want time to

824
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: work out. I want my relationship with my boyfriend to

825
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: be strong. I want to ski the Rockies and not

826
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 5: feel like it's a chore because I'm mentally and physically

827
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 5: exhausted from work and I want to have one more baby.

828
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: I've talked to my boyfriend and he doesn't want me

829
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: to quit. For the income and benefits such as a

830
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: guaranteed pension at twenty five years of service, I'd retire

831
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 5: at fifty, medical coverage, maternity leave up to eighteen months, etc.

832
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 5: So Chelsea, do I quit my job? Because my day

833
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: to day is an exhausting grind and I feel like

834
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 5: i'm not the mom I want to be, or do

835
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: I stick it out, risk missing out on these younger

836
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 5: years of my kids' lives, and hope I work my

837
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: way up to a nine to five position by the

838
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: time they hit their high school years. A working mom

839
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: listening on my commute to work.

840
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: Jennifer, Hi, Jennifer, I tell cy Catherine, I'd say Hi,

841
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: Tony Hawk. He's our special guest today.

842
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 7: Hi, Tony Hawk. Carry you Hi.

843
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: He specializes in maternal advice. So you've got you call it.

844
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 6: It's something similar. I have many children, so I do

845
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: have plenty of experience.

846
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 7: Awesome, that's what I'm looking for.

847
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question.

848
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: Financially, would you be stable without working as a police officer?

849
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 7: We would be because the idea is not that I

850
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 7: would be like a stay at home Mom'm not bringing

851
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 7: in income. I would ideally be replacing that income with

852
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 7: something else that's more conducive to like the work life balance.

853
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 6: Right.

854
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: Well, then, I just don't think there's any question. It's like,

855
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: you have to follow your heart and your gut. And

856
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: as a mother, I understand the inkling. I mean, I

857
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: don't understand because I'm not a mother, but I can

858
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: pretend to understand and empathize with the idea that you

859
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: want to spend time with your child while they're growing up.

860
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: You're never going to get those years back, and you're

861
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: pretty dispassionate about being a police officer, so that would

862
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: be a waste of time to continue to pursue that

863
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 3: just for as a means to an end. In my opinion,

864
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: I think that all women and men should always listen

865
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: to their intuition, and you know their instinct, and your

866
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: instinct is telling you that you want to be there

867
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: for your child and to create some sort of revenue

868
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: and career that would bring you a lot more joy

869
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: and would keep you around.

870
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: A lot longer.

871
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: You know, more hours in the day to spend with

872
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: your daughter. Something probably more part time.

873
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 7: It sounds like, yeah, probably something similar to that.

874
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's any question.

875
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, your boyfriend's probably going to disagree

876
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: with you, but I think your happiness is pretty much

877
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: more important than your financial stability at this point. You know,

878
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: as long as he's working, and your intention is to

879
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: create another job that will bring you more pleasure and

880
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: allow you the time to spend more time with your daughter.

881
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: Then that's what you need to do. Absolutely.

882
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think the hard part is because like I

883
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 7: feel like going into it, I like, before having my daughter,

884
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: that was what my passion was. I was really good

885
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 7: at it. So I feel like I'm worried that shifting

886
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 7: this mindset because I have my daughter now, and maybe

887
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 7: I'll go back to thinking that way after like these

888
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 7: really tough like early years are past, and then regret

889
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 7: walking away from it instead of just like sticking it out.

890
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 7: I guess for the few years that are really tough.

891
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.

892
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: I think you need to listen to your inner voice,

893
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: because that's your voice telling you that this isn't right

894
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: for you anymore. I don't think you're going to look

895
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: back and be like I wish I had remained a

896
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: police officer and stuck it out.

897
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

898
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: Like I think that you should be respectful of your

899
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: own feelings. I think women so oftentimes are taught to

900
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: second guests their actual intuition and instinct.

901
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: And you don't need to do that.

902
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: You just said it, you know, you wrote in You're

903
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: taking the time, and even if you did in a

904
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: few years miss that, I'm sure there's an avenue of

905
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: your of a way back in to a police force

906
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: once you once you've become a police officer, you can

907
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: take a leave of absence.

908
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: You can, Hey, i'm a retired I stopped being a

909
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: police officer. You can go back to that vocation.

910
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess it's not yeah permanent. It was something

911
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 7: I wanted to go back to.

912
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's I mean, Tony, what do

913
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: you think from a male perspective.

914
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 6: Oh, I absolutely agree. I was hyper fixated on a

915
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 6: career like you, with being a police officer, and I

916
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: was just sucked up in it. And then I got

917
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 6: carried away and I definitely missed milestones and a few

918
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 6: of my kids' lives and I can't get them back.

919
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 6: I am there for them much more than ever, but

920
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 6: there is definitely a sense of regret in their early

921
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 6: years because I thought that, well, I need to be

922
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 6: doing this. This is the success, this is what I've

923
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 6: already dreamed of. I have to chase this to the

924
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 6: very end. And what is the end? I don't know.

925
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 6: I guess that's my point is like, if you wanted

926
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 6: to be the police officer and to be working those

927
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 6: hard hours, what is the end goal of all of that.

928
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 6: It feels like you're just chasing the carrot the whole time,

929
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 6: and you would definitely miss out on a lot of

930
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 6: things with your daughter, right.

931
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, my daughter. And then we actually found out that

932
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 7: we're expecting second so yay, congrats.

933
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 6: I feel like that's if that's the sign you're needed,

934
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: that's it right there totally.

935
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: And also you're in a very you're in a lucky

936
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: position because hey, do you know how many mothers feel

937
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: this way and can't do anything about it. You're somebody

938
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: who feels this way and can do something about you.

939
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: Yes, can you take your eighteen months of maternity leave

940
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: before you go?

941
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: That would that would be preemptive maternity leave.

942
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 6: I like that.

943
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I basically have to sign saying that I'm

944
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 7: gonna work the amount of time that I've been off,

945
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 7: So this would be kind of the long game of

946
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 7: doing it for like a few more years. And then

947
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 7: if I'm still in the same position, I guess in

948
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 7: the walking away, then.

949
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: I do wonder too.

950
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: We have had there may not be a parallel for you,

951
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 5: but we've had a couple people who've called in who've

952
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 5: worked in the school systems and you know, teaching hasn't

953
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 5: been right for them anymore, but they've moved into sort

954
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: of like a parallel position like librarian.

955
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: Or something else in the school, so they will still

956
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: qualify for their pension.

957
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 4: So like that may be something to explore if there

958
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: is any all alternative for you.

959
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah, that's yeah. I definitely think I have options.

960
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 7: It's just a matter of like narrowing it down. I'm

961
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 7: very like type a personality, like I'm not just going

962
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 7: to jump ship and not know what I'm going to

963
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 7: I'm gonna you know, research it, figure out what the

964
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 7: income is and if it fits, like what my needs

965
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 7: are I guess now versus what my needs and like

966
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 7: once we're five years ago.

967
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, well, well thanks much. You're absolutely welcome. Thank

968
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: you for calling in.

969
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 3: And I hope you have a clearer conscience moving forward

970
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: about your move.

971
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 7: And well, I have three more opinions I guess whether Yeah,

972
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 7: kind of on my side.

973
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's the best thing. It's the best thing

974
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 6: you can do. Yeah. Yeah, it's the most rewarding thing

975
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 6: you could do as well. Yeah.

976
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 7: Yeah for my kids for sure. And that's the biggest thing,

977
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 7: right is not looking back and then, like you said,

978
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 7: like regretting missing those those times for what right, Like

979
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 7: the I guess on the work side of things, like

980
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 7: those people you know aren't going to remember that I

981
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 7: was there that day, but like my kids will remember

982
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 7: that I wasn't right, So that's it.

983
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 6: Yeah.

984
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and Chelsea said this before, but but you

985
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: know the decision that you make will be the right decision,

986
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 5: you know, listening to your gut, do what your gut

987
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 5: tells you. And then when you make that decision, like

988
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 5: go forward in confidence and if you need to change later,

989
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: you can change later.

990
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. Like where the things come up also

991
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 7: is like I was listening to your podcast the other

992
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 7: day where the sister was really struggling with supporting her

993
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 7: sister who was in an abusive relationship. And so it's

994
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 7: like things like that that I end up dealing with,

995
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 7: Like that's where I find meaning and purpose. So I

996
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 7: guess those are the hard things that I'm I feel

997
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 7: like i'd be missing out on and walking away from.

998
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 7: Like I do find purpose in doing that. I do

999
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 7: think that there is, you know, a space and a

1000
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 7: need for women in policing, and so that's kind of

1001
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 7: what comes into it too, right, is like if I'm

1002
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 7: a woman who's leaving, then it's almost like not like

1003
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 7: they want, but it's almost like, okay, well you're already

1004
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 7: you know, the minority started having kids. That's kind of

1005
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 7: what ends up happening is you walk away from it

1006
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 7: and then what's left right is not as many women

1007
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 7: who should be because they do serve a purpose.

1008
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe that can trigger you into finding out, like,

1009
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: you know, your next career path, which is could be

1010
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: social work or it could be counseling and being there

1011
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: for women in a different way, you know, showing up

1012
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: for women in ways that they will need that kind

1013
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: of support.

1014
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 7: Right, that's not Yeah, I'm mutually explosive to placing.

1015
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 6: That's fair.

1016
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1017
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, well thanks so much.

1018
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Jennifer.

1019
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: Today's career day so off and running.

1020
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 7: Sounds good to have a good one.

1021
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: Okay, M supposed it.

1022
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: By good luck.

1023
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 7: Thanks.

1024
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe you got pregnant during that phone call.

1025
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: I know that was quick. Maybe it was Tony.

1026
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: He's got six kids, he seems pretty.

1027
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 6: Uh No, I made sure it doesn't happen again. Oh okay,

1028
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 6: it wasn't me.

1029
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

1030
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 5: Excellent Tony, you may be able to help with us

1031
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 5: since you have had some teenage boys in your house

1032
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 5: for quite some time. Dear Chelsea, I'm the mother of

1033
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: eighteen year old boy girl twins. I'm very frustrated with

1034
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 5: my son's lack of good hygiene.

1035
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: He does shower, but he.

1036
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: Puts his dirty clothes back on. He rarely does laundry

1037
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: unless I force him to. He never brushes his teeth

1038
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: and somehow doesn't have cavities. His room smells like dirty

1039
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 5: ass constantly. How can I get him to care how

1040
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: he smells. He's not depressed, he's just lazy and doesn't care.

1041
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: Thanks for Annie help you can offer Tara from Pa.

1042
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's tricky. My best approach to that has been

1043
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 6: about how offensive it is to your partner, or your

1044
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 6: potential partners, or your you know, girls at school, the

1045
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: girls of school. Yeah, I mean that was it. Like

1046
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 6: I one of my sons was. I think he was

1047
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: trying to be more hippie about it, but at some

1048
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 6: point it was just offensive to everyone. And I had

1049
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 6: to tell him, you know, because you got travel with him,

1050
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: and I was like, you got to put on the odorant,

1051
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 6: You've got to brush your teeth more often. And at

1052
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 6: one point he brought a girl along to one of

1053
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 6: our trips and I that's when I got serious, m hm,

1054
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 6: because it was like, you're in close quarters with this

1055
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 6: person all the time.

1056
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean hygiene in general. I understand there's a

1057
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 3: phase within all of our lives. I have had phases

1058
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: where I didn't feel the most hygienic in my life,

1059
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: where I just like, I like to eat food in bed,

1060
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: you know, I don't care if there's like mustard on

1061
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: the sheet, I'll go to bed like that. But in

1062
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: terms of personal hygiene, there is something very undignified about

1063
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: not accessing healthy water, clean water when you have access

1064
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 3: to it, and it is putting on putting on dirty

1065
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: clothing after you take a shower is really gross.

1066
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 6: Like there's that is counterintuitive.

1067
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: It's counterintuitive.

1068
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's a lot of masturbating going on

1069
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: with this kid too, because he's a teenage boy, so

1070
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: who knows what that's he's I mean, Mick put that

1071
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: in the mix that we didn't mention, you know, And

1072
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: I want to say, like, in these instances, it's it's

1073
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: almost more important for someone outside of the family to

1074
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: make the point to them rather than someone in the family,

1075
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: and not in the sense of like publicly shaming them

1076
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: and like, you know, posting pictures of his room or

1077
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: whatever on your social platforms. I don't mean like that,

1078
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: but I think it would be important if you could

1079
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: enlist one of his friends or one of your friends

1080
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: or some want to make a comment that would actually

1081
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: make him care that he's having an impact not only

1082
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: on his inner family life, which he clearly doesn't care about,

1083
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, offending, but someone outside the family circle. You know,

1084
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: maybe it's a girl, maybe you have one of your

1085
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: friend's daughters say something, or and it doesn't have to

1086
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: be like a public roasting, but like in a private way,

1087
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: like you'd be a lot cuter if you smelled better,

1088
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: or who knows, yeah.

1089
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 6: Or just by the accounts of girls and women who

1090
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 6: are like I was not going to go home with

1091
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 6: that guy because he smelled and his place was a

1092
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 6: big style out of there, like that's you know.

1093
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you can go through TikTok or Instagram and

1094
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: just collect a bunch of videos of women talking about

1095
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: how gross they find men who don't be.

1096
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 6: Pay sure, and it's always a deal breaker, so and

1097
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 6: not always, but you know, it seems like more often

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Speaker 6: than not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a deal breaker.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand teenage boys are one section, but listen, also,

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Speaker 3: there is a very very strong chance he will grow

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Speaker 3: out of this phase of his life. So while it's

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Speaker 3: not fun to deal with, and you have to take

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Speaker 3: some comfort in knowing that most people don't go through

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Speaker 3: life like that, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 5: I feel like he might grow out of it soon.

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Speaker 5: There's also like maybe you can incentivize it.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit, but you know, hopefully he will.

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Speaker 3: Just Yeah, I mean, I don't have any problem with

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Speaker 3: bribing children to behave better, you know, throwing in an

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Speaker 3: extra video game or whatever he's into, if he you know,

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Speaker 3: if he cleans.

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Speaker 1: His room, washes his clothes, all of those things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything.

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Speaker 6: They're almost college age, right, I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, eighteen, Oh he's eighteen. K.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're going to go off to college. Then it's

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Speaker 6: going to be a roommate's problem. The roommates not going

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Speaker 6: to bribe them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like I feel like college, you're

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Speaker 5: going to get more peer pressure around, like dude, you

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Speaker 5: didn't shower this week or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to get sorted out in college, so

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Speaker 3: don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Set him free to.

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Speaker 2: Be harassed by his peers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to take a quick break and we

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Speaker 3: will come back to wrap things up with Tony Hawk.

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Speaker 6: And we're bad.

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Speaker 3: Tony, thank you so much for joining us today and

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Speaker 3: giving maternal paternal life advice, all of the good things.

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Speaker 1: It was a pleasure to finally meet you.

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Speaker 6: You too, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Will you also tell us a little bit about your

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Speaker 4: podcast and where people can find that?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Sure, it's a Hawk versus Wolf. My friend Jason

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Speaker 6: Ellis and I we were both on Serious XM for

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Speaker 6: almost twenty years and we decided to do our own

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Speaker 6: podcast because it was way more fun and way more freeing,

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Speaker 6: and so we get a lot of fun good guests,

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Speaker 6: but also we have really funny conversations on our own

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Speaker 6: because he is a comedian by nature but also by profession. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, great, well, thank you Tony, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 6: Thank you you guys, Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea.

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Speaker 4: Do you have some new dates for us?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: You know, I do?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of We added lots.

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Speaker 3: Of Canadian cities Canadians. I'm coming. We added about fifteen

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Speaker 3: new tour dates. I'm coming to Denver again and Salt

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Speaker 3: Lake City, Vancouver, Richmond, Virginia, Santa Rosa, California, Gary and Diana, Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: Grown in New York, and about seven dates in Canada.

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Speaker 3: the year and through December, and then next year I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be touring all year.

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Speaker 1: and it's a very much needed reprieve from all the

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Speaker 1: fucking madness that's going on in this world. So I'm

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Speaker 1: here to bring joy and sunshine.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a holiday themed question for Chelsea? Please

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