1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty two, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Episode three of day production of I Heart Radio. This 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, August thirty one, two miles. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: What does it mean? What does it all means? Jack? 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's the last day of August, which means 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: we only celebrate one thing. That's actually there's so much. First, 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: it's National diet to Maceous Earth Day. If you've ever 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: had problems like fleas or bugs, you've maybe bought this 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: a remedy of like a pest problem dis earth. Also 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: National Eat Outside Day, National Matchmaker Day, National South Carolina Day, 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: National Trail Mix. Right, so the first to kind of 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: go together. A lot of these go together. Trail Nix 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: usually said something to keep the fleas and ticks away 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: through the Palmetto State. Obviously, I'll tell it when I think, 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: when I think South Carolina, I think trail Mix. Also, 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: association might not be the right one, but I have. Well, 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a kaya Jack Horseman, and 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host, 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. Weird. Ask Christians start that time had come. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: But they don't know that. Dare the only ones to 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: say no game where they go with what they looking for. 23 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: If Jesus saw y'all, he was saying no more with you. 24 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: He's through because you picked fascism was your priceful rights? 25 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Even Christ like this saying right, just please buck off tonight. 26 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: All right? That was in the shower this morning. I 27 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: was just thinking a sister Christian and I turned into weird. 28 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Ask Christians and there we go in a k for 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: it was political bro exactly. Man, Jesus would be like, what, well, 30 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Miles Weird thrilled speaking of political Weird thrilled to be 31 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: joined by the hosts of one of the funniest podcasts. 32 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: It's not very political romance, but the act of listening 33 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: and recording it is a political statement in many ways. Um, 34 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: it's my favorite place. We are women. We are women, 35 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: which means that our bodies are political property, thank you. 36 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: Our bodies are political battle grounds. There it is, and 37 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: we are actually the first women to have a podcast. 38 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see that on the Wikipedia book. Also, just 39 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: a great place to get recap to the Bachelor and 40 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: the Bachelortte. Even if you don't watch those shows. I 41 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: do feel like I'm watching it with you guys when 42 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you recap the show. And just also it's not like 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: a Bachelor podcast though it's there, there's plenty of other 44 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: good ship. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Carolina Barlow 45 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: and Devin Leary. Thank you so much for having us 46 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: on you guys. It's so great, Like we needed that 47 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: ego boost, And it isn't a crazy that women weren't 48 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: allowed to have podcasts until or ego boosts or ego 49 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: boost until very recently. Was actually twenty Uh that was 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: I was trying to think about when our podcast started. 51 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: And you guys are gonna go now now that you've 52 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: got the ego boost. You said, you're just gonna out. 53 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: We jumped, we put our and um, we really wanted 54 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: to just, yeah, get that information out there because a 55 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of people think that that you know, women have 56 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: had podcasts forever. No, not true. Not those are all men. 57 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: And Devin said, when I you know, picture the idea 58 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: of true romance. She said, do you think they'll love 59 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: women have a podcast? And I said, I guess we're 60 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: women women past, and we all we can do is 61 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: shop so that is so true. We were shopping at 62 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: the time. Okay, this is all making more sense. We're 63 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: getting our nails hair is done and shopping at the 64 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: same time. We're getting our hair is done, and we 65 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: were thinking with our damn noggins for the first time 66 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: in our goddamn lives. This is great. This is an 67 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: amazing origin story that will no doubt be made into 68 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: a film one day. Yeah, well, it's actually Nicole Kidman's attached. Okay, 69 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Kidman's attached to play me, I think me because you 70 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: know what, she has a deviated septum, and so do I. 71 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: I guess you guys have both lied about that. Great great, 72 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: great great great No no no no no. It's like, well, 73 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: while you're added, I guess we can do some stuff 74 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: since I do have that DV. When Devon got her 75 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: nose jobs, she told her dad to tell people she 76 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: was in a car accident. I didn't, Yes you did. 77 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: These are lies, These are lies I've opened about the 78 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: plastic surgery. I'm not like a Kardashian. I know everybody's asking, 79 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: everybody's wondering how she looks so perfect all the time. 80 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: Guess what was actually my first question on this dock. 81 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: You did say it was contouring. I said, it's makeup. No, 82 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: it's not makeup. But it also wasn't a car accident. 83 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: And tell your dad to tell his assistant that it 84 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: was a car accident. At one point I told him 85 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: to say some sort of accident. I didn't, first of all, 86 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: and second of all, that septum was deviated even before then. 87 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: I just don't want you to appropriate my culture. That's 88 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: all I ask. What you haven't you think you've been 89 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: through something, you've had, You've been sick, you've had an illness. 90 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: Don't don't get even Devon started on her acid reflux 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: because we don't have the time. We'll turn it into 92 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: like a fundraising all right. I'm crossing off the first 93 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: two questions because my first was how does she look 94 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: so perfect? Second was talking about your asset reflux. So 95 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: we're okay, we've got those knocked out. We're gonna get 96 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: to know you guys a little bit better in a moment. First, 97 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things 98 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're can get a little update from 99 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Police Department. We're gonna get a little updated. Yeah, 100 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: it turns out we're gonna get an update from the magazine. 101 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna get an update on inflation, a lot of updates, 102 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot updates, folks, all that, plenty more. But first, 103 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: Devin Carolina, we like to ask our guests, what is 104 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: something from your search history that is revealing about who 105 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: you are? Well? I think Austummers on the podcast, or 106 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: maybe the first time I was on this podcast, I 107 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: did say that I google Ivanka regularly googled her this morning. 108 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: I hate her. I think she's the band of my existence. 109 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: She represents to me the how is she still the 110 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: bank in though? Like, what's she doing now? I just 111 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: want to see her come up and I want to 112 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: see her and jaredd arrested in jail a deviated septim. 113 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: She had a serious actually, i've heard from a source 114 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: ak and makeup art. She can't breathe through her nose 115 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: because she's had so many nose jobs. She has a 116 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: completely different head than when I went to college with 117 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: her and then when her Yeah, we we saw each 118 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: other for a little bit. It was nothing serious, but 119 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: there was more of a situation ship. I think that's 120 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: what the kids were calling it. But a totally different 121 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: head like everything. Yeah, it's very sure she really went 122 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: through it. Um, she will be in court one day 123 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: saying they took out her frontal cortex and that's why 124 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: she made the decisions. She did my search history, so 125 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: Ivanka's always in there. But I also I did the 126 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: other day want to check in on the Bachelor in 127 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Paradise couples because I saw that Joe and Serena had 128 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: an engagement party. I'm really happy for them. I do 129 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: you think they're in love? And so I just want 130 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: to check in on a few others. Grocery store, grocery store. 131 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Joe and Serena was the one from Canada, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 132 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: they still they stuck together. They stuck together, they're living together, 133 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: they're getting married. They had an engagement party and did 134 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: a post about the color scheme for it, and that 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: was news that I read. And then I said, let's 136 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: check on on some other ones. Becca proposed to Tommy Thomas, 137 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: who was a villain. He sucked. I just think he's 138 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: a con artist. And um, when women are like I'm 139 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: proposing to him, it's an act of something like I'm like, no, 140 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: you just want to get married. Yeah, do you think 141 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: you're undercutting yourself by telling it too? Marriage? You know 142 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? It's brave and feminism. Devon. What is 143 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: something from your search history? Okay, what I pulled for 144 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: you guys, out of all the options is us search 145 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: for Demilovado's hair hair in two thousand twelve. Um, Carolina, 146 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: you've just fully scratched your speaker on your computer and 147 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: deafened all of us. Oh, I'm sorry. That was definitely 148 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: a passive aggressive So right right during my turn to 149 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: speaks hairs and she's going to say it because I 150 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: injured them. He's like, oh, no, how to get healthier? 151 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: I had hearing because because I wasn't gonna go here, 152 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: but I will. Sometimes when we have actual Sometimes when 153 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: we have actual guests on our podcast Zoom, Carolina will 154 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: try to pretend like she's playing paying attention, but she'll 155 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: start typing and she doesn't realize that we can hear it, 156 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: and so she's just loudly typing in a deafening tone 157 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: and she's like, that sounds interesting and it couldn't history. 158 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: That's happening right now, for history is hurting my soul. 159 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I once when a podcast was over a Great Bad 160 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: Store a podcast. The podcast it ended, the interview had ended. 161 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: I was responding to a text on my computer. Okay, 162 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking even more recent time, and I think you 163 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: actually lied and said that it was a work email, 164 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: but you just blew your cover, so you know what, 165 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: such a bit. I'm so our guests are listening right now, 166 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: thinking that I even all over them. Yeah I do. 167 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they are. Yeah, they were famous. They're 168 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: probably listening, so I know, yeah, we have the most 169 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: famous listenership Michelle Obama. Please. It was famously when Michelle 170 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: came on True Romance Maker Marcos also followed her. We're 171 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: trying to arrange times at work on her end. You're 172 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: texting back and forth. You like, you buy what Megan saying. 173 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: We compete with one another to have the famous, the 174 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: most famous listener base. So this is cool. This is 175 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: like we're, you know, burying the hatchet a little bit 176 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: because there is tension between the two shows. Oh definitely, 177 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: all right, but I'm sorry, what was the I searched hair. 178 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: It looked amazing then, but I was just trying to 179 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: tell if it was extensions because her hair looks so 180 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: bad now and I can say her, because she's back 181 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: to shee her, but her hair looks her whole look 182 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: right now is terrible. So I just wanted to go 183 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: back to the old days. And it was two twelve 184 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: was the peak. She had like huge extensions, dark like 185 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: dark brown hair with like a maroon highlight. Beautiful. That 186 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: cool for the summer. No, oh my god, it was 187 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: it was it was unbrokenan mhmm, I'm not I'm not 188 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: a Demilovado historian. War All right, Well, you guys can 189 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: see the picture array behind me, but the listeners can't, 190 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: so please just go with me on this. It's kind 191 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: of embarrassing. Yeah, you you have like the name Demitria tattooed. Yeah, 192 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: that's beautiful. A lot of people don't know. Yeah, it's 193 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: a real name. Yes, skyscraper tattooed on his hand. What 194 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: is what? Something you guys think is overreadd I Carolina 195 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: looks stumped, so let me jump in. I think I 196 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: think data privacy is is overrated. I completely agree with Devon, 197 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: but I have my own because this is just like Caroline, 198 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: and Carolina will famously go to a restaurant, wait for 199 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: me to order, and then order the exact same thing, 200 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: but and not even comment on it, just as if 201 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: she also wanted that, like not saying I'll have the same, 202 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: but like order it like you haven't just cas This 203 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: may have happened once and the only reason Devon's mad 204 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: is because she likes to eat everything and doesn't want 205 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: dust to get the same meal so she can have 206 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: a bite of whatever I'm happening. Okay, this is some 207 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: early two thousand's era insults. Um, Devon's actually likes to 208 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: eat everything. Said, I went to Devon out to dinner 209 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: with Will Ferrell, and she whispered to me before dinner 210 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: started that she was nervous because it was we're eating 211 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: tapas style, and she was like, I can't share. So 212 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: I had to announce at the table as if I 213 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: were her mother, like by the way, Devon's going to 214 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: get her own plate and she's going to eat it 215 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: by herself, and Devon just nodded silently, And you're not 216 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: allowed to look at exactly. And also tapas tapas are overrated, 217 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: no offense to anyone, But I think I think data 218 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: privacy is overrated because I think back to the days 219 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: when you had to go to a store and human 220 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: beings would come up to you. Disgusting human obnoxious human 221 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: beings would come up to you and say, like, why 222 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: don't you try this? Like what do you think of that? 223 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: Like trying this on? This would look good? What are 224 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: you looking for? What are you shopping for today? That 225 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: is hell? And what our lack of data privacy has 226 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: done has made it possible the Internet boom, when we 227 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: didn't know that we were losing all our rights to privacy, 228 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: made it possible for us to skip that step. Everything 229 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: we want just gets shown to us, like the wedding 230 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: singer when I don't know what to watch on a 231 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, And now people all just want to be 232 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: like I want, they're gonna take Gary alexis listening to you. 233 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: First of all, are you doing anything that anyone would 234 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: even care about? If not, then you're just getting more convenience? 235 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: And what's the problem? I like this, Like you sound 236 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: like an ethicist who works at Amazon. It's like, what's 237 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: the fucking deal? You get this? But so what we've 238 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: mapped the interior of your home with a fucking room 239 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: buck and better? I like that version, like pushing you 240 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: around it? What you care about data privacy? Now, okay, 241 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: so you're gonna shop in the store. I don't think. 242 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: So that's exactly how I feel. Say that about when 243 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: you know how people cover their cameras on top of 244 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: like piece of tape. They'll cover their cameras, cover there 245 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: whatever microphone. I am always like if someone and literally 246 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg does it, like you, there's been a picture 247 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: of him, so people, so a lot of normal people. Okay, 248 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: sounds good example because it's so common that it's so 249 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: well known that they're insecure, that even people who are 250 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: super high tech do it. Yeah. Also, he has billions 251 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: of dollars, so he has actually watch his cookies. I 252 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: accept all cookies because I actually get more. Do you 253 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: guys have an option for like extra cookies? You could 254 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: put a gun to my head and say what are cookies? 255 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: And I would say, just shoot me, get it over with, 256 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,119 Speaker 1: because you're a very interesting gunmen who's like what are cookies? 257 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. Jokes 258 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: on me, isn't it. I Also I'm like, if the 259 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: n s A Wants to watch me watch Southern Charm 260 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: on my computer while I'm spilling peanut butter on my 261 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: chest and then eating it off my shirt. That's on them. 262 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: That's their problem. I don't need I'm not worried about it. 263 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Watch me do whatever. What I think is overrated is 264 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: any kind of food that you have to wait in 265 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: line for. So once in a while you'll be driving 266 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: through restaurants anywhere and you'll see a line outside of 267 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: a restaurant or a food truck, and your thought is 268 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: that must be really good. My media thought is what 269 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: suckers because you can walk down the street and you're 270 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: waiting in line and you're thus your experience already sucks 271 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: for whatever you're doing. So Stumptown Coffee in New York 272 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: ten years ago, because you know, like I'm a wise 273 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: old lady. Ten ten yeah, ten, twelve years ago in 274 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: New York, this was considered like incredible, rare coffee. Peep. 275 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: We would wait down the street from the Ace Hotel 276 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not going to wait in 277 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: line for coffee? What is that? This is my time matters. 278 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to wait in line for I remember 279 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: my friends once made me wait in line for um, 280 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: what's the burger place that's everywhere? Now? Devon shake, what's 281 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: your problem? Shake check. I remember when there was a 282 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: line through Union Square and I waited on it for hours, 283 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: and it's now it's ridiculous. So there's no such food 284 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: that that is that good that I will wait for it. 285 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: The croissant donuts that were in New York that was 286 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: a line people would wake up like five am to 287 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: get them. I enjoy good things. I like food. I'm 288 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: not going to wait in line for anything. Right for you, 289 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: it sounds for both of you, sounds like immediate gratification 290 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: is definitely like number one, sure, do not delay, And yes, 291 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't funk with delays, even if they cost me 292 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: my fucking privacy. I actually think about it a lot 293 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: when I'm getting lifts, because you know, a faster car 294 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: sometimes costs more money, and I think I have to 295 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: think about it, like, Okay, would I rather wait twenty 296 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: minutes or when I rather pay ten dollars more and 297 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: be out of here right now? Just get away from 298 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: this awkward conversation at this Yeah, I get away from 299 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: my plastic surgeon's office. So yeah, yeah, all right, what's 300 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: what's something you guys think is underrated? Okay? I was 301 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: just reminded of something that I think is really underrated, 302 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: which is me on uber dot com because my my 303 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: rating on Uber has been horrible for years and just okay, 304 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: listen listeners. Just when you think that's a red flag, 305 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: it's not. Because I have a five point of rating 306 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: on Lift, meaning I'm a good person. But I actually 307 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: took an Uber and the guy said, wow, you're rating 308 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: so low, but you actually seem like a good person. 309 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: I was like, I am a good actually, like I 310 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: have a good person. What do you mean? But I 311 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: don't know where this comes from, but I think it's 312 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: actually I think it's actually the patriarchy because I think 313 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: one save, I think one person gave me a bad rating. 314 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: I think this happened in Cleveland, Ohio when I was 315 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: there because I was there for the r NC. The 316 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: ubers just just just to attend, by the way, no 317 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I was working there. She was working at on my 318 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: cockety assistants know she was there to cover for the 319 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: Daily Show. I feel like adding more context, because that's 320 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: good that context. Definitely, I mean not to attend to 321 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: work there hand out paphlets on what their abortion was 322 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: gonna our Christian nation and the Christian I wanted to 323 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: show them that they're one uh, one second old fetus 324 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: already learned how to read right and that therefore there 325 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: one second fetus was smarter than me. Drum roll please, 326 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: okay No. So I was there and the ubers were 327 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: so talkative, like the people were so talkative that I 328 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: just had to start being rude because I was like, 329 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: I just don't want to talk to this person about 330 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: like what are you in pound for? What do you 331 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: all doing here? Like I just couldn't do it. And 332 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: then also like I kept canceling them because they would 333 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: take so long because it was Ohio, I think so 334 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: like I would be trying to get to work and 335 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: they would be like circling the block. It was ten 336 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: minutes away. I just had to cancel. So I think 337 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: my my rating went down there. Okay, then I start 338 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: then I come back to my life in New York. 339 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: I start getting in the ubers and what are these 340 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: ubers driven by men? And what do they see? Low rating? 341 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: And then what do they see? Also a woman? And 342 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: they think, oh, she must be what's that for a 343 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: letter word? A bit? That's what they thought I was 344 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: was gonna say another one, and they exactly so they thought, 345 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: oh self, fulfilling prophecy. You know what, she's a bit. 346 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: She probably doesn't even like be nice to men. She's 347 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: probably rejects me, just like Sarah Swankins in middle school did. 348 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give her a three star reading and it 349 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I do. I'm so nice. I like 350 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: try to make conversation. You smoke in their cars with 351 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the way, and I and I eat onions. But aside 352 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: from that, I'm I'm really pilly cheese steaks at nine am, 353 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: spilling it all over. I don't know what. I don't 354 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: know what to do about this, but it is. Yeah. 355 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: I had a like lowish rating. I don't know when 356 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: we were first working together, Miles, do you remember this. 357 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: I we would like the drivers say like, yo, your 358 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: rating is low. I think so, And also like we 359 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: kept like I kept getting dropped, like they would just 360 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: cancel on repeatedly, and so I finally like checked my 361 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: score and it was like in the it wasn't that low. 362 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: But then from that point forward, I've been like pressing, 363 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: like just stressed out by every interaction with an uber 364 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: driver and like being too friendly, which I think also 365 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: isn't good. I'm like yeah, so yeah, I'm tilting on Uber. 366 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad for me. What about you? I 367 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: actually have a perfect lift rating. The one of the 368 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: driver said he had never seen one like mine. He laughed. 369 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: He was like, you have you must have the app 370 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: he and I said, oh, really do I? I think 371 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm just a polite person, I said, but you will 372 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: not believe what my friend does in these cars. I'm 373 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: at four point eight eight on Uber now, by the way, 374 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: so all the hard work paid off. What okay, it 375 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: must be nice and I won't be sharing mine on 376 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: here because I have a reputation to protect. So true, fair, fair, Carolina, 377 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Do you have an underrated or my underrated is never 378 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: have I ever? On Netflix? Friend, I am not underrated. 379 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: It's like number three on the trendy doesn't destroys my life. 380 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: Just talk about reputation. You are first of the first 381 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: one to share mind comes in. She comes in with 382 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: another scratch on the speakers. She's like, Netflix, I don't 383 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: know what scratches you're talking about. I know you're the 384 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: one who can't hear it. You're the only one who's 385 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: not wincing when it's actually bad. But okay, go ahead, okay, 386 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: start going to recommend friends. You're gonna recommend friends on 387 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: com about a bunch of friends, I talk about tension life. 388 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: You think you know nderrated? Me and a friendship? Yeah, 389 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: me as a friend, Me as a podcast, yes, me 390 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: as a technological person. Who did you like between? Who 391 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: did you like between Ben and Paxton? Ben? You like Ben? 392 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: Paxiston looks like he's a hundred years old old. The 393 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: men that are cast on this show need to go 394 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: to see Dr Jessica Wou and Beverly Hills who gives them. 395 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: But you need to not be cast in high school ship. 396 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: It's like when you look at like that guy Darren Bartnett. 397 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm like this motherfucker thirty one, and I'm like, 398 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: he looks like a guy who is like cruising a 399 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: high school for exactly exactly oh Man show. Yeah yeah, 400 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: some people don't know it. Devon. I'm when I say underrated, 401 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: I want to I want to get a little bit 402 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: into this because I feel like someone attacks my character. 403 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: As they say on the show Bachelorette, she attacks my character. 404 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: And when I say underrated, I mean that the show 405 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Ships Creek was rated very well, and it was rated 406 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: just as I mean, it got awards awards, and I 407 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: think that never have I ever should be up there. 408 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a classic right now. I think a 409 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: lot of the younger generation, the jen zeers, when I 410 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: think it should be a millennial even boomers I believe 411 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: will like this show. So you okay, I actually had 412 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: lumped it in. This is helpful underrated for me. I 413 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: had lumped it and was like shows that I'm too 414 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: old to watch and care about, and like that it 415 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: would be weird for me to watch. Never have I 416 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: ever seen this is a beneficial experience. I feel like 417 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: I am saying that is to you know, quit the 418 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: tension that's developing between me and this is actually really 419 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: good for me. Exactly, I think we should just exactly 420 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: if I can get the green square for one more second, 421 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: just to say one last thing. I didn't know, and 422 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm taking note of the fact that the definition of 423 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: underrated is actually as compared to Ship's Creek. I wasn't aware. 424 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I thought she was going to say something, and then 425 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: she turns up. She's the same devon. Don't expect me 426 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: to change. I've already tried um. All right, Well, we're 427 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna let you just marrinate on that one. 428 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: We're just gonna take a break. I guess that's around 429 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: line from a woman who made it's like a Lisa 430 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: Barlow like whoever, whichoever? The Housewives almost gets arrested for 431 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: fraud been arrested. All right, let's take a quick break. 432 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: We'll be right back to talk about the news. And 433 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: we're back and we have an update from the Minneapolis 434 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: Police Department. And just like generally, the police have been 435 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: really good at dealing with criticism and historically, yes, historically 436 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: have you did you guys watch We Own This City? 437 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I watched the pilot and then I was like, this 438 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: is so heavy, classic classic white privilege thing to say. 439 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I was like, this is so heavy. I have to 440 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: put this aside for later. I learned about this later. 441 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: It's based on it's a lot of same like people 442 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: being bad cops repeatedly, which is a criticism I heard, 443 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: I've heard. I find it pretty entertaining. But like one 444 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: of the big plot points is that after the Freddie 445 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Gray protests, the police just like stopped policing and stopped 446 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: even leaving their squad cars like when they came to 447 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: a crime. So that's that's one example. The NYPD went 448 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: on strike and crime went down. You're kidding the irony, 449 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean like in Minneapolis specifically. You know, 450 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of attention on the Minneapolis Police Department 451 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: because there's a lack a lot of calls and like 452 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: defunding the police there, and people were like, yeah, there 453 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of momentum to that, but the biggest 454 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: bite that was actually sort of taken out of their 455 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: policing budget was like about eight million dollars despite what 456 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: cop humpers across the political spectrum we're saying, and the 457 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: city also like eventually voted to like not reform the 458 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: police department as like a department for public safety. So 459 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: the blue line you know, survived in that instance. But 460 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: by this year now like in their budgets are actually 461 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: higher than they were pre George Floyd. So all's, well, 462 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: that ends well for them, but there's like there's there's 463 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: there's mounting crisis with the city because the police are 464 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: basically just draining the fucking city budget with all their ships. 465 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: So to start off, there's been an exodus of police 466 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: officers who have left because their feelings were just hurt 467 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: by the protests nearly three hundred officers. This is from 468 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: this piece of Mother Jones saying that nearly three hundred 469 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: officers left the department since Floyd's murder. That's a third 470 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: of the force, and two hundred of them have left 471 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: with workers comp settlement checks and lucrative disability pensions based 472 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: on their claims that the policing at the protests of 473 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: gave them PTSD the feelings, and so now they are 474 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: getting huge checks to not even fucking work anymore. And 475 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: the city has estimated to pay about thirty five million 476 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: in these disability claims and these like workers can settlements 477 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: like since left, yeah, and and like, and these are 478 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: cops that have, like some of these cops have like 479 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: extensive records of misconduct, like leading to killings and just 480 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of just shitty behavior. So this is slowly 481 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: creating this like fiscal omni crisis. And that's just sort 482 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: of one dimension of it. Because here's the other huge number. 483 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: The city has paid out eleven one hundred eleven million 484 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: dollars in settlements to people that were fucking brutalized by 485 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis police in the first fifteen days after George 486 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Floyd's murder. They're saying all the misconduct from the first 487 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: fifteenth day in response to that murder has turned into 488 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: one eleven million dollars in settlements. So city officials are 489 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: not like kind of in a buying because on one hand, 490 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: they're like, well, this is fucking too much, Like they're 491 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: just taking off with all this money for reasons like 492 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: we're not totally aligned with but also if they go 493 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: to court and try and fight it, they could end 494 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: up paying even more. So you know, they're in a 495 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: bit of a buying just being like, so you raise 496 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: taxes and then cut back other programs to offset the 497 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: cost of just having to deal with the police in 498 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: our city. It's just a very it's a very fucked 499 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: up situation as you look at it, because even if 500 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: you you know, as they even ideated around, it turns 501 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: out it's they like the cops basically played like a 502 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: un no reverse card on the city. Right. I would 503 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: love to read a quick quote by Miriam Kabba. She's 504 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: an amazing abolitionist, and I think it goes into what 505 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: you guys said, But she said, if we say anything 506 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: about the impunity with which they harm people, this is 507 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: going to hurt their feelings, and hurt feelings equals massive crime. 508 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: It sounds ridiculous if you actually think about it, but 509 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: it is convincing to vast swaths of the country. What 510 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: other profession do we say that because they have low morale, 511 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: we have to suffer violence as a result. So it's 512 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: this idea that like, we need to fucking get Blue 513 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Lives Matter tattooed on our bodies to show police their 514 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: support or else someone's gonna murder us. It's the crazy 515 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: idea and it's completely mythical, and I think it's also 516 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: much more influenced. Hate to say it, because I was 517 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: a huge fan of the show and it got me 518 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: through college Dick Wolf's Law and Order. I think it's 519 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: plagues the nation more than we even know, and it's 520 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: given us this collective story that they are here, they 521 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: work all the time to solve crime, when really they're 522 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: just writing parking tickets, yeah, or killing people over a 523 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: disputed twenty dollar bill, or you know, like recently happened 524 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: um pulling over a pregnant black mother with her children 525 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: in the car and pulling their gun on her. Her 526 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: entire pop culture like of you know, my favorite pop 527 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: culture was like eighties movies where like die Hard was 528 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: my favorite movie most of my life, and like that's 529 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: just like a no nonsense cop who like is just 530 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: there and using violence like at his own discretion. And like, yeah, 531 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean the whole the whole thing is like built 532 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: on that, and like that, I feel like that is 533 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: a large part of Like it's not necessarily even the 534 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: bureaucratic stuff as much as it's just like how deeply 535 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: ingrained culturally so much of this ship is that like 536 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: our ideas around safety, right, This is something we talked 537 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: about with our guests yesterday, seth about like being able 538 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: to break out of just like this sort of reflective 539 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: thinking where people here most people say they hear defund 540 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: the police. That means no police. That means violent dystopia. 541 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: And that's the only that's the only conclusion from that term, 542 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: from that phrase, rather than can we sit down and 543 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: actually understand what the root causes of crime was crime? 544 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: Are you wonder why people who are wealthy typically aren't 545 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: the ones shoplifting or stealing cars because they have the 546 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: means to these, aren't they don't commit survival crime? A 547 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: lot of time we're just being like this is how 548 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: people are surviving because they're excluded from the traditional economy. 549 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: So that's what this looks like. Rather than yo, man, 550 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: they need fucking you know, fucking aatling guns and ship 551 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: and you know, bigger trucks and all this other ship 552 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: and we kind of fall in this absurd problem solving 553 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: mode when really it seems like the thing is public safety. 554 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: How do we keep the public safe? And who does that? 555 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: And there's probably there's so there's so much nuance to 556 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: it that not everything has to be responded to with 557 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: agro person that's armed to the fucking hill. Well, think 558 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: about when you call the police. You don't call the 559 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: police before violence has occurred. You don't call the police 560 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: before property theft. You call the police after. How can 561 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: we say then they prevent anything like that. It's just 562 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: this weird backwards way of thinking about life in terms 563 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: of punishment rather than a social network that gives people 564 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: more options than two resort to petty theft or which is, 565 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, most of what the police are doing right now. 566 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: For instance, there was something so it would be funny 567 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: if it wasn't so fucking tragic. There is a picture 568 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: of a black woman from a seven eleven camera and 569 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: the police released it saying she's wanted for stealing a 570 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: slim gem. Mhm. The resources alone going into that are 571 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: fucking ridiculous. When a woman is stealing food, it makes 572 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: me insane. It makes me really sad, And I think 573 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: it's like the biggest just mold on our country. I 574 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: think that's like the thing that when you feel that 575 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: frustration is like really having to encourage people around you 576 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: that to be like the option is in a dystopia, 577 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: just so you know, because we're already there, the idea 578 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: that you are exactly police even more in giving them 579 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: more weapons. That's the fucking dystopia, not the version where 580 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: cops are like solving certain kinds of crime while also 581 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: like supporting human beings to try and elevate them out 582 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: of situations that cause them to do what you know, 583 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: the police called extra legal activity or whatever. So I 584 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: just thin kind of white children. If white children of 585 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: white people were being affected this way, if a white 586 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: fifteen year old foster child had been tasted or shot, 587 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: this conversation would not be radical at all. And the 588 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: fact that it's radical just speaks directly to race. And 589 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: I think you know when people were every you know, 590 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: anyone with a working brain and heart was so horrified. 591 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: But what was going on in the summer of even 592 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: though it's what goes on all the time, but the 593 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: fact that when you mentioned abolition people are defunding the police, 594 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: people were acting like that was a radical reaction meant 595 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: that they we're not looking at these people like their own. 596 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: They were looking at these people like not my problem. 597 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: It's already a dystopia for someone, you know, very dystopia 598 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: for someone. It's a normal reaction to someone saying like, yeah, 599 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: this isn't a safe world. You know, this isn't a 600 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: protection to me at all. Yeah, Miriam Kabba talks about 601 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: abolition is not is about building something rather than removing something. 602 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: It's about building social networks, not about just removing one 603 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: part of the country, Yeah, which is our militarized police. 604 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: We're talking about Alec Carrick Gtsands. I think another like 605 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of huge part of the edifice of like the 606 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: pro police, like can't can't possibly imagine a reality without 607 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: police is the way that the like local local media 608 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: especially but I mean definitely the New York Times and 609 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: you know national media as well, just use the police 610 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: as an unquestioning the only source on like most most things, 611 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty fun and crazy. So go follow Eric Alec 612 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: Karrick Gitsanus. He spends all his time and energy just 613 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: going one news story after another, just be like all right, 614 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: so here's here's another one. Yeah. Yeah. And he's also 615 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: like runs a huge fund that helps fight human caging. 616 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: So there there's another story that I think kind of 617 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: of reminded me of this problem that so it's completely different, 618 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: but it's another one of these institutions that is unquestionably 619 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: just given carte blanche to like do whatever the funk 620 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: at once. And that's like corporations, and just like corporations 621 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: acting within a market. That there's this article from over 622 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: the weekend where the Wall Street Journal like published thing 623 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Disney's new pricing magic more profit from fewer park visitors, 624 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: and they're just like amazed. They're they're like speaking approvingly 625 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: in economic terms about how the company has raised some 626 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: prices and eliminated or started charging for other services and 627 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: features that used to be free and calling it like 628 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: pricing magic and the like The New York Times Mickey 629 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: Mouse was the one came up with a genius And 630 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: The New York Times another thing that was like, well 631 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: with Biden for giving student debt, like colleges are just 632 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: going to charge more because now they can just like 633 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: bacon that ten tho dollars into the price and that 634 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: money goes to them and they don't have to like worry, 635 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about it basically, and like 636 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: that's just how they're like in both cases, it's companies 637 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: doing what is objectively like if you know, just like 638 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: bad bad ship, like taking advantage of the of the 639 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: pandemic to like discriminated against Yeah, like using the magic 640 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: of the pandemic. I'm sorry to discriminate against like the 641 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: lower earning part of your consumer base. And then on 642 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: the college front, it's like exacerbating a problem that we're 643 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: already acknowledging as like a huge, massive problem in the country. 644 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: But in both cases it's not treated as like a 645 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: normative thing. It's like objective. They just treated as like 646 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: an objective fact that this is corporations do. This is 647 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: like smart business, and it's I don't know, it's just 648 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: very frustrating, and again it feels like the sort of 649 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: thing that we've just lost the ability to imagine or 650 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not like these damn people like 651 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: we've lost our imagination. It's that we've never been given 652 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to imagine anything other than a world that 653 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: is ruled by corporations and you know, market forces. No, 654 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: they're definitely there in charge of the narrative. I mean, 655 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about Disney, which is a storyteller. You know, 656 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: like it sounds paranoid, but it's or you know, like 657 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. But no, these are people who literally 658 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: build the stories. That reminds me of Ivanka Trump saying 659 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: that she knew more about working people than AOC and 660 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: that she thought that that she knew that Americans want 661 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: to work for their money, right, And I was wild, 662 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: was like, that is the craziest thing I've ever fucking heard. 663 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: As if like, the problem is like I want to 664 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: work more like a woman, you know, a mother of 665 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: five who works at the Walmart cash register, Like, actually 666 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: her problem is that she hates tax cuts because she 667 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: loves working there. Well, Ivanka is I actually have a 668 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: bunch of Vanka quotes that I was gonna pull, but 669 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: it sounds like yeah, no, no, no, Actually Caroline is here. Well, 670 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: we'll actually do it after they leave. That's problem. I know. 671 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: She's one of my favorite American philosophers. Yeah, it's just incredible. 672 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's throw there's um Ivanka, there's a kushion Ere. Yeah. Well, 673 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: Carolina Devon. Truly a pleasure having both of you on 674 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: the daily. Like I said, know, you have to bounce 675 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit early. Where can people find you? Follow you? 676 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: All that good stuff? Again, we want to blame our 677 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: early absence on the comedian Will Farell. That's right, we 678 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: didn't blame it. We didn't blame him up top monster, cruel, 679 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: cruel person, a cruel person, just kidding. He's a truly 680 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: an angel on earth. Yeah, unbelievable. He wore a T 681 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: shirt during the pandemic that said pay teachers more because 682 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: he was getting popped all the time outside of his house. 683 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: And you can please listen to us on True Romance. 684 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: That is on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your 685 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: podcast and I Heart Radio. It's production produced by I 686 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: Heart Big Money Players, Will Ferrell's podcast network and Funny Story. 687 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: One of the first people we pitched it too was 688 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, your co host, who kicked us out of 689 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 1: the room and he said, that's disgusting. No one's gonna 690 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: want to hear about your failures and romance. So who's 691 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: it going to be hosted by? Though, that's what I understand. 692 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: Whether who are the two fellas you're going to bring 693 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: into you know, I remember that too, when you're my 694 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: life is actually stranger than if I even wrote it 695 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: as fiction. And that, Yeah, that was enough. I think 696 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: the cast still were Yeah, we do have so let 697 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: me just please step in for a second. Caroline at 698 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: my Green Square. Also you can follow us on Instagram 699 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: at True Romance Pod on Twitter at True Romance Pod. 700 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: Also I have a new Instagram because I had to 701 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: go through a breakup and then I had to delete 702 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: my whole instagrams tratic and so please follow me on 703 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: at Devin Underscore Hunter Underscore Leary. It's the same thing 704 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: as before, but with underscores and that'd be great. Thanks. 705 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: And I'm at Carolina Rose Barlow on Instagram. We are 706 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: so happy that we got to jump on with you 707 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: guys on We're huge fans of t DZ and um 708 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: A cab. There you go, there you go. All right, 709 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, we'll be right back, just 710 00:42:51,760 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: Miles and I just the just the dudes, and we're back. 711 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: People are gonna think that, like guests fucking are stopped 712 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: fucking with the show part way through. This might be 713 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: our new format. This is two days in a row 714 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: where our guests have had a heart out and we 715 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: are are doing acts three just the boys, or it 716 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: feels kind of like the boys are back in town. 717 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: You energize. It feels like or like podcasts that do 718 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: like an interview package and then like they have rats 719 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: on either side they come back like that was a 720 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: great interview. Huh. That was interesting. And one thing that 721 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: Caroline said to me that I thought was so interesting 722 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: before we started recording, that's like the NPR like format 723 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: of how they I thought it was fascinating that their 724 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: dynamic felt that they were actually in conflict, but that 725 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: was it was just malful banter the whole time. I 726 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 1: think that the rest is just us analyzing the part 727 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: that just happened is so in the are that that 728 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: is a great show though, Like it's like listening to 729 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: them talk about their dating lives is like yegher than 730 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: any round comma I've seen in a number of years. 731 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to compare to it has ah this very 732 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: unique quality to it. We're like, they're not lying, and 733 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: it's like Jesus and Marrow almost was like, this is 734 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: not bullshit, and I love hearing it. It's um It's 735 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: one of my favorite podcasts. Even though it's on our network. 736 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: It feels like I'm lying, even it was really good. Alright, 737 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about where where Maga is at? Where is 738 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: the Maga freakouts continue? They will continue. There's a lot 739 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: of Look, the latest thing was Donald Trump got a 740 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: new lawyer who used to be like the like the 741 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: former solicitor of General in the state of Florida if 742 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: you followed anything, He filed this motion to have a 743 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: like a special the funk is it a special hold 744 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: on motion? A special master. That's why I forgot it, 745 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: because funk that word. He was looking for a special 746 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: master to oversee the Mara logo documents search review, basically 747 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: trying to like sort things out that might be privileged 748 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: information that isn't relevant. They filed this like over two 749 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: weeks after the raid ha happened. The deal She's like, 750 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: We've already been through everything, so go ahead, and so 751 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: they're like like nothing, here, We're fucking two weeks behind 752 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: on sucking everything. And then on top of it, the 753 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: RNC is still like, we are not paying your fucking 754 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: legal bills. That's on you. This has been the situation 755 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can't fucking you're not 756 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna bleed us dry with your fucking money. Also, they're 757 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: also kind of concerned Trump might just suck off with 758 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: all the money he's raised, like the Republicans, and then 759 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: they'll be like that was for the fucking elections. He's like, 760 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. So look, things are chaotic 761 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: as usual. But first up, I just want to check 762 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: in with some of the people in his orbit. The 763 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: first is Bianca Garcia. Maybe you've heard of her, maybe 764 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 1: you've seen her before. She is the head of Latinos 765 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: for Trump. She is fucking pissed no longer for Trump, dude. 766 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: She's like this guy turned his back on christ Um 767 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: and she's coming at it as like a whole thing 768 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: of like look at the chaos season, more of like 769 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: trying to be like you see what happens when you 770 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: funk with God kind of thing of like he stopped 771 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: talking to us, He stopped trying to like I've stopped 772 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: seeing evangelicals go visit him, so that's probably what's going on. 773 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: So I just want to just want to play her 774 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: clip because she's now basically saying like, it's a mess 775 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: over there and it's a rap for me, And we're 776 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: going to a clip where she's being interviewed by Don Johnson. 777 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: This is her basically being like, man, what Trump needs 778 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: to do is get God back in his life. So, 779 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: because that's the X factor for all of this maga stuff, 780 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: the g was for God. Obviously I'm doing something wrong. 781 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: I need my spiritual leaders back in here. Spiritual leaders 782 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: need to come back in here. We need to figure 783 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: this out. We need to pray, We need strategy. I 784 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: don't know what else to do. You need to go 785 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: in your prayer closet, because let me tell you something, 786 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to put me in French Trump. The 787 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: first thing I'd say to him is, sir, first of all, 788 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: you I ain't even gonna talk to you because you 789 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: need go on to pray. Close you and you find 790 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: a close you better go get underneath and you better 791 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: pray and repent for whatever it is, because you've offended 792 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: the Lord you were chosen to lead this country, and 793 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: you've offended him in some big way and that's why 794 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: you're not in the White House right now. Okay, it 795 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: is interesting. She does seem to be like there's a 796 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: guy on like it's a split screen with her and 797 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: somebody interviewing her, and he appears to be a fantasy 798 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 1: football expert, but she just doesn't. He just not couldn't 799 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: look less like he belongs in this thing, like a 800 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: fantasy football expert on his way out to the club 801 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: for the night. Wait, what makes him? I mean, I 802 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: just like that as a slur in general, just to 803 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: be like fantasy football expert. I don't know. But he 804 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: got a pin striped pin striped jacket, like down hair 805 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: makes me think fantasy football, and his like unshaven nous. Yeah, 806 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: pushed back hair, not back quite, but definitely pushed back. 807 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: But but you know, she's she's been sort of I think, 808 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: really trying to connect this thing of like he's he's 809 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: turned his back on evangelicals, Like we're feeling some type 810 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: of way this this is why he's he's not in office. 811 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: So this is like the kind of stuff that's there's 812 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: like a lot of debate as to why is Trump 813 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: experiencing this negative streak right now. I think it's kind 814 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: of what people wrapping their heads around. Then there's Trump himself. 815 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: He's having a fucking real normal one on payless Twitter 816 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: ak a truth social On Tuesday morning, he was shipp 817 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: post ship posted like sixty times of all kinds of stuff. 818 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: We're talking Q and on drops the fucking election theft memes, 819 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: fucking four memes where like, ironically it's like, bro, in 820 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: this meme, you are the fascist overlord based on like 821 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: this George orwell quote. I don't know if you're connecting, 822 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: but I guess you're listener or followers don't know about 823 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 1: that either. Then even throwing out theories about January six 824 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: that it was Antifa and the FBI who stormed the Capitol. 825 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: So it's like the pace of it, the stuff that 826 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: he was like real truth thing wherever the is called, 827 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: it was just all copium. Like it was the kind 828 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: of ship that he's like, yeah, see this person is 829 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: saying this whacked out ship that that also helps me 830 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: feel like I am not in the wrong. And the 831 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: sort of pace it which he was doing it, it 832 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: honestly felt like he really believed that if he reposts 833 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: this bullshit enough, it will somehow get him out of trouble, 834 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: like by amplifying like being like you see this person 835 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: even thinks it's Orwellian incorrectly. I mean this, so like 836 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: he he only really seems to be comfortable when he 837 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 1: is in conflict. This is as much conflict as he's 838 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 1: ever been in. And it feels like because like not 839 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: to I don't give a final psycho analyze them like 840 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: that's that's fine, He's analyze yeahs. Yeah, and he's pretty easy, 841 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: Like he is a pathological narcissist who has always like 842 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: felt inadequate, won't let that inadequacy rise to the level 843 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: of conscious thought, and so he is just desperately filling 844 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: that sucking hole where you know, self esteem usually goes 845 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: for other people with accomplishments and conflict and words. And 846 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 1: this just feels like, I don't know, it's what he's 847 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 1: always been, like, this is how he's always lived his life, 848 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: is just constantly arguing with people that he's the ship, 849 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: even though he you know, is outwardly and evidently a 850 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: con artist. And so it's like this is not going 851 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: to stop until he's gone so like the like the 852 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: worst it gets, the more in his element, he's going 853 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, and I think, but this is why 854 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: it's it's just started getting out of control though now 855 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: because the Republican like Fox News wasn't they didn't say 856 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: shit about his claim. It's like that they really need 857 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: to redo the election and proclaim him God King, like 858 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: they didn't even touch that ship because they're like this, 859 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: like it's bad. Ben Shapiro was even like they to 860 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: get rid of him. The RNC cannot do this with Trump, 861 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: like the Democrats want him on the ballot, and and 862 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: and Independence are splitting four Democrats at a four to 863 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: one rate. Because Trump is on the ballot, they have 864 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: to get rid of him. He's even being like logical 865 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: about it now, which is like you can't even like 866 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: the elector the electoral politics, like it doesn't work. But 867 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll he'll come right back because I'm sure 868 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: a plurality of magga people will be screaming at him. 869 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: But just to go on along with all that Trump 870 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: was calling for, like these uprisings to continue, like I 871 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: don't we kind of touched on it on the Trending episode, 872 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: but he's telling the FBI to fucking rise up now 873 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 1: against the Department of Justice. He said on truth Social 874 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: quote one of the great agents and others in the 875 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: FBI going to say, we aren't gonna take it anymore 876 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: as much as they did. When James Comey read off 877 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: a list of all cricket Hillary Clinton's crimes only to 878 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: say that no reasonable prosecute, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, 879 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: the wonderful people of the FBI went absolutely nuts. So 880 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: Comey had to backtrack and do a fake investor gage 881 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: in order to keep them at bay. So I don't 882 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: remember this really there to lead up to the investigation. Yeah, yeah, 883 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: was like Comy first was like, man, there's nothing to 884 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: see here. Then there was like the Anthony Weener laptop thing. 885 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: Eleven days before the election, he said they reopened the investor. 886 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: That was the time they reopened the investigation. I don't 887 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: remember the narrative that it was actually FBI rank and 888 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: file who like caused that was that this is just 889 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: maybe like what he's hearing, or is that like a 890 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: story that's been told anything. It was more like there 891 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: were there was more to say that, like people who 892 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: were sympathetic to Rudy Giuliani were pushing for the reopening 893 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: of the investigation to make it seem like there was 894 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: something there. When ultimately Comy came back, it was like 895 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: after like, look, if there was a crime, we could 896 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: tell you what it was. But it was just it's 897 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: just more of like sloppiness versus like wilfully taking sensitive 898 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,479 Speaker 1: documents away. It's like she shouldn't have had a fucking 899 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: email server, etcetera, etcetera. Like we're having trouble finding a 900 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: cry I'm that aligns with that. Were like, yeah, we 901 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: need to enforce this, which is sort of why that 902 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: fizzled out, And I think that's why now incorrectly, a 903 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans are saying, well, this was a thing 904 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: about mishandling documents and she wasn't prosecuted, so therefore the 905 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: precedent is that you don't prosecute these like mishandled documents cases. 906 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: But they're not even comparable when you look at the 907 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: statutes that are involved. So whatever that's that's just sort 908 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: of like because also when you ask them, plenty of 909 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: people will, you know, hypothesize what Trump may be doing 910 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: with these documents, right, I've heard it we're like, we've 911 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: remember there was in twenty seventeen a c I A 912 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: asset had to be like fucking extracted very quickly because 913 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: the Kremlin was like looking for them. The numbers are 914 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: way up on CIA assets like getting got yeah exactly, 915 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 1: So there's that they're like he could it could be this, 916 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: it could be nuclear stuff. With Hillary, all they kept 917 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: saying was she has these emails, like they nobody has 918 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: a specific go a step further, what's the can cry like, 919 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: what is it? And I think that's another thing that 920 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: sort of shows the sort of difference in it is 921 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: that they can only take their argument as close to well, 922 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: she had these emails and and again I'm not trying 923 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: to say like I'm sighting with anyone, but I'm like 924 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: they're just on as an argument. This doesn't look right. 925 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: So and if it wasn't getting worse for Trump, he's 926 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: also telling people that he might sue Rhonda Santis for 927 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,280 Speaker 1: like fucking ripping off his whole style, which is true. 928 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis. It's interesting, like it it's you're watching how 929 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: like one influential person can like influence unspoken like just 930 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: weird things that like everybody is now doing a Trump 931 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: impression in very in small little ways like that make 932 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: them feel powerful. Like we saw we saw Ted Cruise 933 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: trying to bite his like devil make hair, like I 934 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck attitude, where he was like, well, 935 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm Ted Cruise, and my pronouns or kiss my ass 936 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: and the like. He had his like body language ready 937 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: to go, and it just felt like it was just 938 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: like yo, I thought he's about to be let's go 939 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 1: right after that punchline, let's go. But yeah, he's From 940 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 1: this ling Stone article quote when Trump has seen video 941 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: clips of de Santis speaking of public events over the 942 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 1: past year and a half, the former president has scornfully 943 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: mocked the ascendant Florida Republican for appearing to imitate Trump's 944 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: body language movements and even at times speaking rhythm. One 945 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: of the other sources recalled Trump joking at a dinner 946 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: that he had to sue him for copyright infringement. Okay, 947 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: I used to think that DeSantis was a real threat 948 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: to Trump. I do not think that anymore. I actually 949 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: think that if Trump runs, which the only thing is 950 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: going to stop him is death, He's going to kick DeSantis. 951 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 1: The only threat that he poses that he's probably not 952 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: bound for any kind of legal trouble, and that by 953 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: virtue of that may just leave him at top of 954 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: the pile. Yeah, last man standing because his numbers were 955 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: going up. But the second the Mara Lago thing happened, 956 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 1: everybody fell right back. They're like, yeah, actually, I'm sucking 957 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: with Trump again. I'm with Trump again. Forgot about that. 958 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: We're victims, were victims. Forgot about that. God. So I 959 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: know it sounds like everything like hooray, everything's going well, 960 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: but it isn't because news Max is doing their best 961 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: to keep the fucking voter base motivated, because that's been 962 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: another huge thing is like we're we're gonna get fucking 963 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: rinched in the mid terms, is what Republicans are saying 964 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: to each other on fucking news Max. The anchor there 965 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 1: created like a mnemonic device to try and like keep 966 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: viewers engaged and to like actually ignore all the Mara 967 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: Lago stuff, like trying to find a way to reconnect 968 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: News Max viewers and the Republican base like with their 969 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: outrage to motivate them to vote. And I just want 970 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: to play this because it's like fascist sesame Street and 971 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play this. This guy throws up a 972 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: whole phrase and it breaks down like as a fucking 973 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: on it device focus on, especially as the mid terms approach. Okay, 974 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: wag Joe kass Biden. Alright, let's start. WAG stands for 975 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 1: wag woke stuff, Afghanistan and gas prices. Okay, let's not 976 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: forget those things. We're not going to but remember these 977 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: are the issues, not moral lago. Next, not wag Joe 978 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: kaos Biden got that, folks, wag woke Afghanistan, gas talking 979 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: to like this seems like a speech for like Republican 980 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: interns or something. This is just like soldiers. This is 981 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: so revealing that this is the way in which they're 982 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: trying to do it too. Let's go Jack. We only 983 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: got to one part of Let's go to Joe. What 984 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: does that stand for? Uh? Justice Department oppresses enemies. Thanks, 985 00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: long before moral Lago, people like Paul Manaford, the tow 986 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: people who just got busted for I guess reading Ashley 987 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: Biden's diary, are you serious? Moment is doing so? Uh 988 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: Justice suppress his enemies? Next chaos? What does the chaos 989 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: stand for? Let's try crime hunter, Yeah, hunter, Shenatigans, the 990 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: approval rating. Yeah, it's terrible obscenity and the supply chain 991 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: we know about. What is obscenity. Obscenity for me is 992 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: thrusting upon children, talk about gender, transgender, all this hyper 993 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,959 Speaker 1: sexualization of children that should not be happening. And Joe 994 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: in large part is responsible. He's doing nothing to push back. 995 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he Let's get to Biden, because we've 996 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: got chaos. Is Biden borders, we have non inflation, of course, disunity. 997 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: Our energy is gone, and no one respects us around 998 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: the world. Everybody has like the So this is like 999 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: a type of like for for whatever reason, and like, 1000 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: I've struggled with mental illness, and I've been around a 1001 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of people who struggle with mental illness, and like, 1002 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 1: this is a thing that people who are struggling love 1003 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: to do, is the acronyms and be like energy good, 1004 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: orderly energy direction and just like and like it doesn't 1005 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 1: totally make sense. And sometimes they will claim that that's 1006 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: actually where the word comes from, but it's yeah, it's 1007 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: so desperate that you've now in whatever news room said 1008 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: clearly right, if you do this, you can reverse engineer 1009 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: the discussion that has happened because his whole the thrust 1010 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: of this was we have to connect the fucking base 1011 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: to why they don't like Joe Biden, because there are 1012 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot of them are actually really worried about the 1013 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: student loan debt forgiveness, like that affects people that aren't 1014 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: just voting Democrat and they're talking points as they go 1015 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: on TV or being like these lazy fucking baristas with 1016 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: their basket weaving degrees and people like, hey, asshole, I'm 1017 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: not I'm I got a degree for whatever I'm not. 1018 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't fault like this is made up. 1019 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: I got a degree to better myself and now you're 1020 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: telling me I'm a degenerate. That isn't working well. So 1021 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: they they're like, we need something that is going to 1022 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: make them realize Biden bad. We don't like Byron So 1023 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: now it's fucking wag woke Afghanistan gas prices as like 1024 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: as much as MSNBC, like CNN like plays like that 1025 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: have been in the bag for the mainstream like Democratic Party, 1026 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Like you can't possibly imagine them doing a infomercial like 1027 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: here are your talking points like training video like what 1028 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: that was? That's wild Jesus. Yeah, so they're having a 1029 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: normal one, and I think it's just like they're still 1030 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: figuring out what to do. Like everyone's pulling in many 1031 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: different directions. Some Republicans are silent, others are going pedal 1032 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: to the metal defending him Lindsey Graham Yeah, and others 1033 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,919 Speaker 1: are merely just coming up with good acronyms. M alright, well, 1034 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Miles as always such a pleasure working with you. Where 1035 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: can people find you? And what is the tweet you've 1036 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: been enjoying? Oh man, you can find me on Twitter 1037 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray also checked me out 1038 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: on Miles and Jack got mad Boostie's yeah not just 1039 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: a clever name and also four twenty day fiance. Some 1040 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: tweets that I like. Oh man, there's some good ones. 1041 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: Uh first one, well, well, well this is from at 1042 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Hex and Brenner to H three x E N B 1043 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: R E N N E R two treated well, well, 1044 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: well look who's come crawling back? If it isn't my 1045 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: one year old son I accidentally left at the park. 1046 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Uh Brow at Brow tweeting tweeted, boss, you have to 1047 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: take a drug test. Me knows all the drugs, No problem, 1048 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: and then Brandon Dale at a weary tweeted me before 1049 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: having kids, I'm never going to lie to my children, 1050 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 1: me to day, to my toddler, they don't have hot 1051 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: dogs in Colorado. That really resonated with me. I've told 1052 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: many crazy lives. I mean, it's is that why the 1053 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: fucking Odin Kirk? I think you should leave ice cream? 1054 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Got doubles of everything. Sketch resonates so hard because you 1055 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: tell you like a lie that seems harmless, but then 1056 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: like the guy just like doubles triples down, and like 1057 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: kids actually do that ship sometimes too, where they'll just 1058 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: like follow the logic train on your ask and you're 1059 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: just like, oh god, damn it. All right, never mind, 1060 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Let's see some tweets I've been enjoying. Is Sarah Lebou 1061 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: tweeted medicine is such a beautiful name for a square garden. 1062 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: I just appreciated. And human Eron tweeted wire self checkouts 1063 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: ever closed in my own break and then I have 1064 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the Colorado one. Yeah. Uh. You can find me on 1065 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on 1066 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at d Daily Zeitgeist on 1067 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Instagram We have Facebook fan page and a website Daily 1068 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Zychgeist dot com, where we post our episodes on our 1069 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: foot note where we link off to the information that 1070 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a 1071 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song 1072 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: do we think people might enjoy? Oh? I think you're 1073 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna enjoy this track weight and I just lost it. 1074 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, this is gonna be. We're gonna go 1075 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: out on more Pokemon. I love pot Kemon p A 1076 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: c h y M n uh. He's an artist who 1077 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: plays like really dope reggae tracks, but it sounds like 1078 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: they are like he's been rummaging through vinyl, but that's 1079 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: him recording everything to tape, playing all the instruments. It's 1080 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: really good. This is in another track called Towards the Mountain, 1081 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: which I just like the title of that because remind 1082 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: me at podcast, just keep the mountain in front of 1083 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: you and if you walk towards it, you'll get there eventually. 1084 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, Pachima towards the Mountain alright. Well. The 1085 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Daily Zake Gus the production of I Heart Radio from 1086 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: More Podcasts from my Art Radio is the I Heart 1087 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your 1088 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: favorite shows. That is going to do it for us 1089 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: this morning. But we're back this afternoon to tell you 1090 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: what is trending and we'll talk to you all then. 1091 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Bye bye,