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Speaker 1: what value it's Evan Rostey brought. Yeah, Evans um you

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Speaker 1: You know that's a very good understanding situational football and

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Speaker 1: Jones improved? Yeah, for sure. He's a lot closer than

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Speaker 1: special teams player maybe video face this year? Absolutely he

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Speaker 1: absolutely new guy you had guys liked at is Matthew

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Speaker 1: all these years with a player like that? How specially

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Speaker 1: for a guy like that, how difficult is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a very hard guy to matchup. Again, he's bigger

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Speaker 1: So you know, he has a great combination of size,

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Speaker 1: all the above, really no weaknesses in the player. Um,

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Speaker 1: deal with him. And he's seen everything. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: seen everything. But it's different than dealing with just a

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Speaker 1: it is he plays at least all that if not.

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Speaker 1: I mean he looks like he's more like two forty

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Speaker 1: a very physical player. It runs well, very instinctive. So

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Speaker 1: multiple other ones too, So I mean you have to

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Speaker 1: downhill from there. You have an idea you're trying quarterback

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, Yeah, we'll see. It was as you're potentially

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Speaker 1: past year. You're trying to accentuate whatever quarterback skills that

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Speaker 1: really look at it that way, Phil, So I don't,

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Speaker 1: ye know, I just I just don't believe in taking

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Speaker 1: I just don't believe in that, so that's I would

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Speaker 1: never do that. I would take what are the breadth

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Speaker 1: does that fit into the opponent that we're playing and

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Speaker 1: the players that we're playing with, and build upwards from there,

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Speaker 1: rather than here's all the plays we ran whatever and

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Speaker 1: whittle those down. I don't even know if those are

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Speaker 1: So that's just not the way I would do it.

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Speaker 1: I would build it up to whatever point you think

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Speaker 1: gives your team the best chance to win, whether that's

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Speaker 1: on offense, defense, or special teams. That's the way I

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