WEBVTT - Why is Toby ghosting Avery?

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<v Speaker 1>First date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>online at Advocates Law dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Avery is on the phone today for a first date

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<v Speaker 2>follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Toby.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna see if we can figure it out

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<v Speaker 2>for and call him in just a few minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>ask him why he's ghosting. But first, Avery, tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about Toby. How long has it mean since you talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, So we talked online for a while before our

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<v Speaker 4>date and we ended up going hiking, and it's been

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks and I just haven't heard from

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<v Speaker 4>him much. I don't know. I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 4>it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so a couple of weeks that is a long time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would feel weird.

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<v Speaker 3>About that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I was kind of giving it time. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're both really busy. He had mentioned like work a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of times. Didn't know if he was busy, but

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it went well, So I was just kind of,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, want to see what's up.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you try reaching out to him at all in

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<v Speaker 5>between that time?

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I did text him like a phone. I went on

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<v Speaker 4>the same hike like later so I text him a

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<v Speaker 4>photo of the hike, like, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 4>we were and he just never responded to that photo.

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<v Speaker 4>But so it was kind of denign, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be too forward, but yeah, I didn't even respond.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like completely ghosted.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's a big one too, Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>went to the same place you were at and sent

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<v Speaker 2>a picture, you would think you would get a response.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how we do that to ourselves though.

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<v Speaker 5>We send text messages and tell ourselves it's okay, this

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<v Speaker 5>one doesn't require a response, so I'm just gonna send

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<v Speaker 5>it in whatever happens happened, right, And then really you're like, dang,

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<v Speaker 5>it should have responded. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like opening. I was like opening the door,

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<v Speaker 4>and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's see what happened. Tell us more about the

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<v Speaker 3>date and the hike then. Uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, we both had on our like online profiles

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<v Speaker 4>that we liked the hike, so I thought it would

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<v Speaker 4>kind of be a good date, you know, not awkward

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<v Speaker 4>at all and fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I brought my dog because the dog needs to get outside,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get exercise, and I just thought it would be fun,

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<v Speaker 4>and we hiked for a few miles and then afterward

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<v Speaker 4>we were still having good times, so we went to

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<v Speaker 4>get a BikeE to eat and he was really nice

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<v Speaker 4>and he was really sweet to my dog too, Like

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<v Speaker 4>he looked around trying to make sure we could find

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<v Speaker 4>a patio where the dog could sit with us outside

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<v Speaker 4>what we ate and yeah, I don't know, we have

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<v Speaker 4>like a great afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you tell him ahead of time that you were

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<v Speaker 3>bringing the dog on the date?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't really think because it was a hike, we

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<v Speaker 4>were outside, I didn't really think about it. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think I don't. I don't think I did. But

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't seem to mind. I mean, who doesn't love dogs?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, must love dogs. I mean there are

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<v Speaker 3>some people that don't. He didn't seem like you minded it.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that I noticed, no, I mean he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>a dog himself, but like it didn't seem he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>seem offended or scared at the dog or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, could was there anything that happened during the hike

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<v Speaker 5>or maybe afterwards that could it be the reason why

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<v Speaker 5>he's not hitting you back?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I mean, something did kind of seem

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<v Speaker 4>off after lunch, but you know, like at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day he kind of left, not abruptly, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I thought we might continue hanging out, but

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know if he shouldn't like his food. He

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<v Speaker 4>ended up giving the rest of his meal to my dog.

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought it was cute.

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<v Speaker 3>But what did you guys eat? I hope.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's like taco It's like tacos. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess I just thought he got

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<v Speaker 4>caught up with work or something, or maybe the hike

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<v Speaker 4>was like maybe he liked not strenuous hikes and it

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<v Speaker 4>was too much. I don't know, Okay, I'm honestly just

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<v Speaker 4>I'm baffled.

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<v Speaker 3>When you say it was different after you ate, like

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<v Speaker 3>or yeah, how was he different?

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<v Speaker 4>Like he he just kind of said he had to go,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I kept making suggestions of like oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we could walk back to our cars together, or like

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<v Speaker 4>I could drop the dog back at my house and

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<v Speaker 4>we could go do something else, and he just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of shut everything down and was like, no, I have

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<v Speaker 4>to go. Whereas earlier we had been talking about like

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<v Speaker 4>making plans for the future, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of talking about idea of other things that

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<v Speaker 4>we could.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, you know, Yeah, Okay, we'll see if we can

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out for you. We'll play a song come

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<v Speaker 2>Back and then call him and see if he'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>us why he's ghosting you, and then see if you

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<v Speaker 2>also want another date after you find out why, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you another date. Okay, okay, all right, play a

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<v Speaker 2>song come back and can get your first day follow up.

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<v Speaker 1>Next first Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the middle of the first date follow up

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're just joining us, Avery is on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone and she's getting ghosted by Toby. So we're about

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<v Speaker 2>to call him and see if he'll tell us why

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<v Speaker 2>he's Ghostinger. But before we do that, Avery, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you refresh everybody's memory on your date with Toby.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, So we went hiking a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 4>with my dog and went really well. Conversation was flowing fine,

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<v Speaker 4>we got food afterwards, seem to have a good time.

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<v Speaker 4>But since then he's kind of ghosted me, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure why he doesn't want to get together again.

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<v Speaker 3>You ready to call him? Uh yeah, all right, here

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<v Speaker 3>we go. Hello, Hi, Ma, I speak Toby please.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Yeah, this is Toby's Toby.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Jewbel. I host a radio show and

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<v Speaker 3>it's called The Jubil Show. Hi, Toby, the show's here too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 5>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing good? Thanks for asking.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you listen to the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I've heard you guys show.

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<v Speaker 8>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, we love that. Probably heard a first day

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<v Speaker 3>follow up before then? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, sweet, Well guess

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<v Speaker 3>what tubes?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh hey, is this for?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh the last date I have? Larry?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're a smart guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Toe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you seem pretty casual about this. Did you expect

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<v Speaker 3>us to call?

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<v Speaker 5>I know?

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<v Speaker 7>I just uh yeah, I mean that was the last

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<v Speaker 7>one I went on.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is what we're talking about. So Ay told us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, about your date and stuff. She said you

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<v Speaker 2>really liked you been a few weeks and you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>gotten back to her. She doesn't know why you're ghosting her,

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<v Speaker 2>so she wanted us to ask you, would you tell us?

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<v Speaker 3>Please tell u?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? So bad, But like I just couldn't stand her

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<v Speaker 7>dog itchy broad.

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<v Speaker 3>Along the date, So it was the dog.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean she didn't mention it, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, it's it's not that big of a.

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<v Speaker 8>Problem, but I mean like just kind of like a

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<v Speaker 8>heads up would have been nice, you know, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>when I bring my dog on the hike, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We asked her if she asked you or told you

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<v Speaker 2>that the dog was gonna come.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she said she didn't because she just figured it

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<v Speaker 5>was an outside hike. But she also mentioned that you

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<v Speaker 5>were really great to her dog. You fed her dog,

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<v Speaker 5>you're giving the dog love.

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<v Speaker 8>So I mean somebody kind of had too. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>the dog is not like well behaved at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the whole time it was like pulling her along.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like, all right, I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 7>take over this least because you're getting like yanked, so

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<v Speaker 7>it's kind of annoying, you know. And then I mean

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<v Speaker 7>we got lunch and the dog just was like sitting

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<v Speaker 7>there like begging for food constantly, and I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>She didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 7>To like stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>She just kind of was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 8>That's just so cute, Like is this cute and I

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<v Speaker 8>was like, no, I mean, it's staring at my food

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<v Speaker 8>like I'm trying to eat, and I just I eventually

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<v Speaker 8>just like gave the dog the food, the rest of

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<v Speaker 8>my food, because I was like, it's just salivating, like

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<v Speaker 8>looking at my food.

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<v Speaker 3>So the dog the food.

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<v Speaker 2>She thought, maybe you that you wanted to, but you

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<v Speaker 2>just gave it because it wouldn't stop suck.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, it looked like it was like judging me,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like judging my order of taco. And I

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<v Speaker 8>was like, here, I have it.

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<v Speaker 5>You like dogs, but you just didn't like this one

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<v Speaker 5>the way it acted, So it was he felt like,

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<v Speaker 5>you want to do with the dog?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean I know I love dogs, I love animals,

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<v Speaker 8>but I mean not that dog. I mean, if that

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<v Speaker 8>dog behaves the way it does is a lot about

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<v Speaker 8>its owner.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, what are you crazy?

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<v Speaker 4>My dog is really well behaved. I honestly can't believe

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<v Speaker 4>you have a problem with her. I'm super offended right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, Toby, Hi, hi Hi, I would disagree if you

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<v Speaker 6>had a problem with dogs.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't like dogs. I didn't have to bring the

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<v Speaker 4>dog on the hike, but he had talked about them

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<v Speaker 4>before and she's really really well behaved. She's completely trained.

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<v Speaker 4>We did training classes and everything, and yeah we were outside.

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<v Speaker 4>She was having fun and running around while we were hiking,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's literally what dogs do. So I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 4>you had a problem with dogs.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't have a problem with dogs. Your dog is

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<v Speaker 8>not trained. I think you should get a refund because

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<v Speaker 8>whatever train you had, that dog is like wild. So

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<v Speaker 8>I'm I'm sorry, but that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never had anyone tell me that before. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>brought my dog on their dates before. She comes and

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<v Speaker 4>hangs out with my friends and we go to restaurants,

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<v Speaker 4>and no one's ever had a problem with her. She's

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<v Speaker 4>super cute and I don't know, maybe she's got a

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<v Speaker 4>weird vibe from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that does happen.

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<v Speaker 8>I think other friends might not be telling you the truth,

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<v Speaker 8>That's all I'm saying. But because you got to wrangle

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<v Speaker 8>with the dog.

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<v Speaker 4>In well, I don't think we'll be hanging out again.

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<v Speaker 4>And then because I trust my dog. She has a

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<v Speaker 4>really good sense of character and she clearly didn't take you,

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<v Speaker 4>so I don't have any interests in her.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure Tooby? Would you like to go again

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<v Speaker 2>with Avery on a second date. We'll pay for it.

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<v Speaker 8>No I have to ask. No, that's okay, I'll pass.

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<v Speaker 7>She can have a date with her dog.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't much rather hang out with my dog any day. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll take my dog on the date.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the dog. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe I'll see you on the hike again sometime

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<v Speaker 4>and she'll pee on your foot or something, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Juble's first date follow up