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So I pulls off in my car, 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: but I wanted to double back to go buy my 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: partner to tell them look the jigs up like red 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Rover nine or the jigs up. 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: So by the time I get over there, swat. 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Cars, cops, barricades, and I pull over and I'm sitting 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: there with a trunk full of phones, and I'm going 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: defining moment, y'all, That's defining moment, Like all right, just 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: gotta pull off. 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: My graduates from my school being forced back. Drop bags drop, Mike, 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: drop bag drop. 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 5: All right, ey l we back home New York City. 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: This is a highly anticipated episode and it's one that 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of people are gonna benefit from. 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: And I love telling these stories. Shout out to our 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: guy Jamal King. We kind of his story which he 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 5: was a police officer and became a millionaire while he 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 5: was working on a police force and started a bunch 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 5: of different businesses and made a bunch of money in 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: real estate and the whole non And I feel like 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: this story is kind of going to be in line 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 5: with that. But it's different, obviously because it's a different career, 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: different path, but more importantly has that same level of 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 5: hope because most people that are watching this are working 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 5: a regular job, and most people are, you know, that 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: blue collar, middle class, working class, whatever you want to 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 5: call it, trying to get to that millionaire status. Most 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: people haven't actually made their millions yet, but the goal 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 5: is to get to that point. So whenever we can 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 5: highlight people that come from that and actually were able 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 5: to do that while still actually, you know, working a 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: regular job. I think that it's not only educational, but 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 5: it's extremely motivational as well. Yeah, so Storm Leroy out 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: of Brooklyn, New York, correct Science, what part that style 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: we made? 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 6: This is a This is a first. 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 7: So a lot of times people walk up to us 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 7: and they tell us what they do in the business, 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 7: and we always are polite about listening, right because you 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 7: never know what somebody's idea could just be something that's 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 7: world changing. And usually it always ends with yeah, I'm 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 7: gonna be on the show, and I'll response. My response 61 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 7: to show is like, Yo, I can't wait. The sea's 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 7: gonna be waiting for you. So like, this is the 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 7: first time that I've said, Yo, the seat's gonna be 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 7: waiting for you, and the person has arrived in the seat, 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 7: So welcome, my brother. 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man, This is this is definitely a moment, 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I've really been timing this 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: out to stay focused, Like I said, keep my head down, 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: keep doing what I'm doing. The intent, my intent will 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: lead to this moment and now it's happening, Like really, 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm crazy. 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, man, yeah that's the grind. 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 8: Man. 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 6: We met what about over a year ago? 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: It was a year and eight months ago. I don't 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: know that was too specific. 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 6: It's on my calendar. 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 7: So we met at our brother Juvenar's event. Yes, sir, 80 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 7: we've been watching you grinding. See now you shoot me 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 7: to text. I'm like, yo, we see what's going on. 82 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 7: We see what's going on. And then we ran to 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 7: each other on the plane. Yes, and I was like, 84 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 7: that's the perfect time. We got this event that we're 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 7: doing in Atlanta. I think you want to be part 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 7: of it. 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 5: Yeah? 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was That was a powerful moment 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: because I know it's like you had got off and 90 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: then I seen you like slow down and I'm like, 91 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: oh yeah, we could take this picture together. And then 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: you looked though it was like you ready. I was like, yeah, 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm ready to take this picture. No, no, no, not 94 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: invest fast. I literally just stopped, come on, messed up forlone, 95 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: stop playing. He's like, no, seriously, are you ready? I said, yes, 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: let's do this. You're like it's done. Let's take this picture. 97 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: I mean that picture. If people look back at that 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: picture on my timeline, I'm showing that back tooth right there. 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: Super duper, you know what I mean. 100 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 3: So I appreciate that moment. 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate you for coming. The mighty, mighty invest 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: fast legendary hit situation. So you definitely played a part 103 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 5: in it. Thank you for coming. But even before that, 104 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: there was a viral moment where Ash Cash shouts brother 105 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: ash Cash, eyl network inside the vault your episode. This 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 5: is actually a lot to live up to it because 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 5: I don't know how top that came out the gate 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: with a five hundred thousand viewed you two. Yeah, that's 109 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: I think that's that's his biggest episode. 110 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 7: Definitely biggest episodes even on the networks. If you look 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 7: at the top uploads, it's still in the top ten. 112 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 6: Yeah. 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: Sure, I always checked too. 114 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 5: That's vague, man. So long story short, this is going 115 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 5: to be a throw episode. Thank you for coming. Appreciate it, 116 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: yeahah for sure. So all right, so let's get into this. 117 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 5: I want to talk about the real estate. I want 118 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: to talk about entrepreneurship, I want to talk about all that. 119 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: But I want to start at the beginning, you were 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 5: working at Verizon, yes, sir, the Verizon man. 121 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: The variety you were. 122 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: You were literally the Verizon man. 123 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 6: Yep. 124 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: So all right, So. 125 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: So how did that start, How how did this start 126 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: working with Verzon and at what point did you get 127 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 5: turned onto real estate. 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: I started working for Verizon in nineteen ninety six, ninety six. 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: I was young, and but what got me into real 130 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: estate was my dad. You know, my dad, he was 131 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: a hard workers work in construction, and while working construction, 132 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: he would come home. He would have me take his 133 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: boots off, you know, and I would take his boots off, 134 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: and there would be times I would running hot from 135 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: him because I literally didn't want to take his boots off, 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: these dirty boots. You know. 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: It was me and my brothers and sisters, but he 138 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: would always call me. 139 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: So my dad, who worked construction, like I mentioned, one 140 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: day he gets carved in while doing a hospital and 141 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Brooklyn called Woodhall Hospital. So he got caved in. He 142 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 2: was a day laborer, wasn't supposed to be there anything. 143 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: It's in the seventies, caved in like the walls fell 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: like he had the walls. Then while digging the ditch. 145 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: The dirt collapse then on him. So from the like 146 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: a little bit above the waist down on the dirt 147 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: collapse then on him. So they dug him out, brought 148 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: him home, and they sat him at the kitchen table. 149 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: They carried him in, so I'm about seven eight years old, 150 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: sat him at the kitchen table. 151 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: So he calls me back in and says, take my 152 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: boots off. 153 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: But now he's in agonizing pain, you know, and I 154 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: could see this thing on his face. So I'm taking 155 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: his boots off and he looks down at me says, 156 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, why have you take my boots off? And 157 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: I say know why? He says, because I don't ever 158 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: want you to go through what you see me going through. 159 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: Wow hit me. 160 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: It hit me like a ton of bricks. I know 161 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: he's delivering me a message. 162 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: You know. I might have been young, but he understood 163 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: the volume, the volume of giving me that at that 164 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: time that he's ready. So it's stuck at that moment. 165 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: But he would always walk around the house and say, 166 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: don't pay anybody's mortgage. Now we remember back in the seventies, 167 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: it was redlining. No matter how much they would want 168 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: to say that it didn't exist, you know, with the 169 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: signing of the housing the Fair Housing Act, I think 170 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: at sixty five or sixty eight, whenever that was, it 171 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: still existed. So my dad wasn't allowed to buy our 172 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: home no matter how much. And we had our landlord. 173 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: We never seen him, but we knew he was Jewish, 174 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Brownstone and bad sty. He would have another black gentleman 175 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: come collect the rent. But what would never happen was repairs. 176 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: The house was falling down. You know, my dad would 177 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: do all the repairs. The baller would break, he wouldat 178 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: somebody fixed the ballers everything. So one time, literally our 179 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: baller broke down to the point where ituln't be repaired, 180 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: need to put a new baller in. So you imagine 181 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: how many thousands of dollars that was. My dad couldn't 182 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: afford to get that. So we literally went three years 183 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: without heat in hot water. Could you imagine that? Like, 184 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: I'll look at that now at this moment and go crazy. Yeah, 185 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't even imagine that. But here's something that really, 186 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: you know, put me into the moment of understanding. You 187 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: don't know bad. When you're in the moment of bad, 188 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: you just know family fund it was ten of us brothers, sisters, 189 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Brownstone three floors, joining ourselves. 190 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: And we didn't realize that was not normal, you know. 191 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: And what made it more impactful and made it seem 192 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: like it wasn't a bad thing because my house was 193 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: full of so much love with my mother and father 194 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: and the other kids in the neighborhood always would want 195 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: to hang out my house because my parents were so free, 196 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: you know, you allow friends to come over their cock 197 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: dinna and hang out. And I'd be like, yoh, well 198 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: had no heat, bro we had with coats on it, 199 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: Like yeah, but my house is is hell on wheels. 200 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: So anyway, moving forward, going from there, I got the 201 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: job at Horizon. But before that, I got my first apartment. 202 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: This is when it really hit me. I got my 203 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: first apartment, started paying rent, and I said, this don't 204 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: feel right like paying someone rent while I'm paying the mortgage. 205 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: Didn't feel right in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn, New York, I said, man, 206 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: I got to get my own place. So I got 207 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: my job at Verizon. I started looking for a place 208 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety five, right before I got the job. Now, 209 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: I was hustling doing my thing, but it wasn't drugs. 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: I like to get that point of rus I was 211 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: doing white hustles. Yeah, it's all type of hustle. Telling 212 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: the type of hustle he was doing was I was 213 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: doing tech technology hustle, you know, with cell phones and 214 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: stuff like that. You know, I like to say I 215 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: was a big part of free nights and weekends and 216 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: eventually helping those who couldn't afford a cell phone be 217 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: able to afford a cell phone now because it was 218 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: very expensive. So you're welcome, it's no doubt, you know. 219 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: So during that time, I went looking at a place 220 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: and it was an older gentleman who wanted to sell 221 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: me two brownstones for three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 222 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: Right now, those brownstones now worth four million dollars. But 223 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: the key thing was I took two people with me, 224 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: that with my friends, and they didn't see the vision allly, 225 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: so was the problem all this? So was the neighborhood. 226 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: So they were they were saying, like I had this 227 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: list of one hundred reasons why I should buy it. 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: They only had one reason why I shouldn't. And ironically, 229 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: that was the one reason that was haunting me. Maybe 230 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: I shouldn't buy it. So when I got there, I'm like, oh, yeah, 231 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: we're looking at the place, and they go, Man, the 232 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: neighborhood's bad. Bro, Man the crack yo. You said, listen though, 233 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: the rent's gonna pay for these too. Like, I'm gonna 234 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: be alright, I'm not gonna pay rent. 235 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 5: I have this. 236 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 3: So I walked away. I didn't buy those two properties. 237 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: But what's stuck in my mind was anytime you're doing something, 238 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: you need to surround yourself with like minded people who 239 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: could see the vision of what you want to do 240 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: what you want to do, because what you're trying to 241 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: do maybe if not, maybe it will be beyond what 242 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: they want to do. Because you become common you gain 243 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: a common threat with people. With your friendships based on 244 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: either sport, it's a relationship, but hanging out. Now, when 245 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: you go outside the normal, you make that thing about 246 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: something like real estate. 247 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: See, that's not their willehouse. 248 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: You just created a new willelhouse for you, and now 249 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: they don't understand it, and all they saw was the 250 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: bad thing. I didn't buy it, big mistake. I moved on. 251 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 7: I honestly didn't think that's how the story was gonna go. 252 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 7: I honestly thought you're gonna be like, yo, I didn't 253 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 7: listen to them. I got there and then I'll learn 254 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 7: some say so it almost was their fear that was 255 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 7: being casted on you, right, one hundred What was Do 256 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: you remember the one. 257 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 6: Thing that they were saying like, this isn't it? 258 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 7: Because I would feel like if I got a hundred 259 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 7: reasons like at a certain point, that's going to crush 260 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 7: yours and yours and they're going to see. 261 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 6: My point of view. Yep. So do you remember the 262 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 6: one thing that they were like, we can't do this? 263 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they kept saying drugs crime, right, But what made 264 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: me not buy it? Because they were my friends and 265 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: I thought they it's not they didn't have my best 266 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: interest in mind, But we all thought alike until I 267 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: developed that other sense of I wanted to do more. So, 268 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: if you're in a group of ten people and nine 269 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: of them are saying, yo, let's go to this party, 270 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: you don't want. 271 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: To go, You're like, now, what the hell I'll go? 272 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: So I was in a group it was us three 273 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: and they were like, yo, don't buy the house, And 274 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm not gonna buy it 275 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: because maybe you're right. So I wasn't equipped with all 276 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: the knowledge of knowing real estate. I just know what 277 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: my dad was giving me, and I didn't want to 278 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: pay rent. I wanted to buy it, So that's why 279 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: I didn't buy it. But then it comes a part 280 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: of the story what gets interesting with the cell phones. 281 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm driving in my car and I get pulled on 282 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: over by detectives. So they pulled me over and they're going, look, 283 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: we know what you're doing because it wasn't illegal yet 284 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: what we were doing with cell phones, it wasn't illegal. 285 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: There was no crime. So they said, nah, we know 286 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: you got this job off at Verizon. We suggest you 287 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: take it, and I turned I turned it down. I'm like, 288 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: how did y'all know this? They said, well, you're gonna 289 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: get that letter again, and when you get it, take 290 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: the job. So I'm sitting there like, yes, sir, you 291 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: got it. I'm gonna take the job. So I pulls 292 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: off in my car, but I wanted to double back 293 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: to go buy my partner to tell them look the 294 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: jigs up like red Rover nine or get the jigs up. 295 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: So by the time I get over there, swat cars, cops, barricades, 296 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: and I pull over, and I'm sitting there with a 297 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: trunk full of phones and I'm going defining moment, y'all. 298 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: It's defining moment, Like all right, you just got to 299 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: pull off. 300 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 8: Hey, listen, everybody, this is your man, Steve Harven, my 301 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 8: partner's over and Earn Your Leisure. They are kicking off 302 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 8: their first invest Fast World tool on October thirty. 303 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: First, how my gun on me? I'm with Achilles UK. 304 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: My dang now humph for this finish you said up 305 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: enough comfort the finish you your. 306 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 8: C it will be get a load of this after 307 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 8: rowal Albert Hall in London, England. This year's speakers list 308 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 8: include Earn Your Leisure Parents, Jane wall Street, Trapper, Eon 309 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 8: Dunloft my business development director, to Betie Stevens, nineteen Keys 310 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 8: and many many more. Get tell tickets before they are 311 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 8: gone at investspecuro dot Com. 312 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: Like this, there's nothing you can do. They already warned you. 313 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: You here. Now. If they don't come up to this 314 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: car and notice you, you cannot look back. You have 315 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: to move forward with what you want to do. I 316 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: pulled off. Once I pulled off, that letter came back 317 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: in Verizon is offering. Yeah, yeah, okay, they could have 318 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: been offered me any position where I signed. I took 319 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: that job and at Verizon. From that moment, so that 320 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: your friend got locked up, yeah, he did for cell phones. 321 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: He got he got locked up for that. And I don't, 322 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: you know, want to go into detail of how big 323 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: it was, but I thought it was only New York 324 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: that we were servicing. We were servicing like eight states. 325 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: So he was he was ahead of you. You wasn't 326 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: fully aware of the whole operation. 327 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, well what it was it was, Nah, this 328 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: is cool, you know. I was like, nah, just just 329 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: be cool and quiet and make it here and we 330 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: good because don't go out ruffling feathers. You know. Then 331 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: once you start expanding, now they can build things and 332 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: stuff like that. So yeah, the expansion brought down the 333 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: empire of the Carters. 334 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 7: It felt like the last scene and said it off Yeah, 335 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 7: when they watching Cleo exactly and they had the bus 336 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 7: like all right, well you can't go help her. 337 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 6: You gotta go figure this thing out now exactly. 338 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: So once I got the job, I said to myself, 339 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: now I'm making four hundred dollars a week. Now. That 340 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: job took the job did I I took that job 341 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: by Verizon. So now you got to imagine I'm going 342 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: from doing like three to four five thousand dollars a 343 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: week to making four hundred dollars a week but being safe. 344 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: And I said, you know what if I would have 345 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: been arrested, what would my dad think? You know, he's 346 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: not alive now, but like everything, I would have been 347 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: sitting there thinking about all those moments, that taking his 348 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: boots off and all those stories from behind some bars. 349 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: So now I'm saying to myself, this is my moment 350 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: to do what I have to do to make him 351 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: proud and also to lift out that dream that he 352 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: can never do, which was real estate. So now ninety six, 353 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: I have another friend who does real estate, and he's like, listen, Storm, 354 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go look at these properties. 355 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: Once you come with me. 356 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, because I always wanted to get into 357 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: real estate, So now come with me. So he takes 358 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: me to go see a Brownstone. Ironically, he breaks down 359 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: every single thing on that list that I have back 360 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: in ninety five, why and with more detail. 361 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: He said, Tony's going to change. 362 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: This is what's going on. You see they doing the 363 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: garden up there and you see they doing this, and 364 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, boom, bought my first brownstone. Got 365 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: that first brownstone for about three hundred and fifty thousand 366 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: dollars incredible. Had to do some work on the Browns 367 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: when I was you know, I had to gut it out. 368 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: You know, the homes weren't being tooken care of her 369 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: back then. So there's water, this and that. So I 370 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: cut out the brownstone, get contractors, rip out the electric, 371 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: all the plumping, all the plumbing. I'm standing in the basement, 372 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: I'm looking all the way up. Every floor is ripped out. 373 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: I'm looking up at the ceiling saying, Yo, my dad 374 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: would be so proud of me right now. He'll be 375 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: so proud of me at this moment. But you know 376 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: what I also said, Man, I never want to do 377 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: this again because I created another job for myself. I'm 378 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: in there working, I'm work working, I'm saying to myself, Wow, 379 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: I had to take days off. I had to use 380 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: my vacation days, my sick days, my holidays, and I said, Yo, 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: this ain't cool. So after I got that completed, I 382 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: totally stepped away from real estate because I did not 383 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: want another job because I already had one and I 384 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: almost lost the job that allowed me to buy the property. 385 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: And this is where the whole thing in my mind 386 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: led up to your job is your first business partner. Period. 387 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Your job is a first business partner. The job allowed 388 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: me to be able to put it on the application 389 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: to get the down payment to buy the property. The 390 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: job allowed me to be able to pay these bills, 391 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: to get my credit score up to be able to 392 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: put that job on the application and get the down payment. Again. 393 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: The job allowed me the weekends off, the holidays off, 394 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: so technically me and this job are in bed together 395 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: and we're partners. He allowed me to do that. That 396 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: job allowed me. So once I understood that, I said, 397 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: oh okay, now I have to repeat the process of 398 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: doing this without having to do work. That was just 399 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: the tricky part of it. And one thing about real 400 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: estate that people don't tell you. They give you all 401 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: the glorious things about it, which is true by real estate, 402 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: and it's going to change your life. It's going to 403 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: do this, it's going to do that. But what people 404 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: don't talk about, and I really want to try to 405 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: start expanding on this story. My real estate people out there. 406 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: When you become a landlord. Man, Nobody told me. And 407 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: I become a landlord, I would literally inherit every tenant 408 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: as a boss. You know why, because they can tell you, 409 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm not giving you no money until you do this, 410 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: even if it's not something that you're responsible for. 411 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: Getting those phone calls late at night, drunk phone calls. 412 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm locked out. 413 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Come let me back in. Oh, I got plenty of 414 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: those toilets, tubs, they putting stuff, and they doing all us. 415 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: And I said, I'm not knocking the landlord because it 416 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: educated me on what I didn't want to do. 417 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: But I know I didn't want to do that was 418 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: become a landlord. So I tried to change my mindset. 419 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: The mindset for me was shifting to becoming a CEO 420 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: who's running a business. That was the start of it, 421 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: to transition. I'll keep going, y'all know. So all right, 422 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: so you get your first property ninety nine ninety six 423 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: was the first property. Undred three hundred thousand, three hundred 424 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: fifty thousand and fifty thousand. You got an FHA or 425 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: just traditional traditional traditional convention. They look like thirty thousand 426 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: down something like that. Yeah, I put it, Yeah, about 427 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: thirty a little bit over that down. 428 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 5: All right, So then you renovate it and you get 429 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 5: that up and running. 430 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 431 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 5: But this is why you're working at Horizon while I'm 432 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: a working So at what point do you really start 433 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: to hit your stride? Like, what's the steps that you 434 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: took after that? Like, was it every six months you 435 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 5: got another property? Did you refinance the first property to 436 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 5: get your second property? Like, what's the steps that you 437 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 5: took to actually start building up portfolio? 438 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: Great question, great question. 439 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: What happened was actually, like I said, stop buying properties 440 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: because of the landlord aspect. So I didn't get back 441 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: into real estate until twenty fifteen. You know why, because 442 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: there was nobody who was investing out of state. Think 443 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: about the early nineties. It was hip hop, it was diddy. 444 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: It was like we was hanging out and enjoying ourselves. 445 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: And the people I did know that was doing real estate, 446 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 2: it was all local. I have my friends that were 447 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: buying properties nearby, and I said, man, I don't want 448 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: to be a landlord because even when we would have 449 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: the discussion, it would be those dilembers, those dilemmas. So 450 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: I said, man, I want to do something else in 451 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: real estate. And my friend of mine he introduced me 452 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: to another friend of his that was investing in real 453 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: estate out of state. He said, nah, I just buy 454 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: properties and I collect rent. I said, you do what, 455 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: and do what and don't have to do what with who? 456 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: He said, Nah, I don't deal with tennants. I said, 457 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: told me more. He said. He gave me a little 458 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: bit of insight, but we didn't talk too long. I said, 459 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to look myself and find out about this. 460 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: So now I go to the school of Google. I'm 461 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: looking up out of state real estate things that our 462 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: nature twenty fifteen. Now I go to a place and 463 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: I find a site called Bigger Pockets dot. 464 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: Com shot out the Bigger Pockets. 465 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they oweed me some bread through. 466 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 5: Oh not, no shout out to Bigger Pockets. 467 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 7: I'm saying, you know, no shout out to that bread 468 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 7: is free. The check got a clear, ain't clear, you know. 469 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: So I went on Bigger Pockets and I'm typing in 470 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: all these things about out of state real estate? How 471 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: does it work? And guys, excuse me, guys are really 472 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: giving all the examples of how this work, how it's built, 473 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: and It's one thing that I really love about that place. 474 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: They give you so much information real estate is this tribe. 475 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: When you ask one question, everybody answers. But see what 476 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: I was going wrong with bigger pockets was I kept 477 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: typing in questions and this someone, he reached out to 478 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: me and said, just type in the question in his search. 479 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: Don't keep asking because somebody already asking. You look like 480 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: a newbie, and people know you didn't do your research. 481 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: So I said, okay, cool. So now I'm typing in. 482 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: Where's the best place about of state real estate? How 483 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: to learn more about how to state real estate? Now 484 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: I'm getting this thread. So I noticed in the thread, 485 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: which is key, there are people who are talking a lot, 486 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 2: and I said, I'm going to reach out to one 487 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: of them because they seem like they want to give 488 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: a lot of information out. So I asked one question 489 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: and one guy I'm thinking about getting out of say 490 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: real estate, what's the best place? So he hits me 491 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: right back. Were going back and forth, back and forth. 492 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: He's giving me great advice. Little did he know he 493 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 2: would become my mentor. And this is what I mean 494 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: about always asked the right questions. When I first started 495 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: out with my theme was ask, always seek knowledge. It 496 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: is because my goal was to ask the right question, 497 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: and by asking those right questions led me to this 498 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: gentleman here giving me valuable information where he knew I 499 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: wasn't just asking any question. I was trying to get 500 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: to a finish line. And he loved that about me 501 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: that I would take his information do the research. So 502 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: now he gives me all this information. I'm looking for properties, 503 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm learning how to do numbers, I'm learning everything about 504 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: it because there's no system like there is today. 505 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 7: So like the person who's listening to right now, I'm 506 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 7: sure they're gonna be like, well, what are the questions 507 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 7: that I'm supposed to ask? So what at that point 508 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 7: this is twenty fifteen. Obviously you know some of the 509 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 7: things will still apply. But what is some of the 510 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 7: questions that you're asking because you want the exact feedback. 511 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the questions I asked was what's the 512 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: best place to start with out of state real estate? 513 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: He gave me locations. He said here in the Midwest. 514 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: You want to do this because of the good weather, 515 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: the rent the higher rents, the lower property costs, all 516 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: the things that new York didn't provide the properties were 517 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: now at this time in twenty fifteen, eight hundred thousand, 518 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: one point two like ridiculous numbers, And that math doesn't 519 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: work if you're trying to be an investor, and cash 520 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: flow off of property that's a million dollars million dollar 521 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: mortgage is about ten thousand dollars. The average rent is 522 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: two thousand dollars, so that's a three thousand dollars hole. 523 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: How do you make that up? So now when you 524 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: learn these numbers, you realize you need to branch out. 525 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: So those were the things he was giving me. I 526 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: would ask what were the best places, what were the 527 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 2: best tools to learn how to do numbers, what were 528 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: the best books? 529 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: What were He was giving me all that information. 530 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: So guys, when you're trying to get a mentor, make 531 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: sure the question is how, and when he gives you 532 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: the how, you go do the work and then come 533 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: back showing you actually did the work so he can 534 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: know that he's not just wasting his time. That was 535 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: crucial for me. 536 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 6: Do your research. 537 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 5: So when did you buy your first out of state property? 538 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 5: And where what state was it? 539 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, I bought a property that same year 540 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: and it was in Indianapolis. 541 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 7: Erner checked this out. If you're looking to add to 542 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 7: your podcast list, I got on. You definitely need to 543 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 7: check out the new Audible original Direct Deposit, What Happens 544 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 7: When Black People Get Rich? 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Visit audible dot com Slash direct Deposit 559 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 7: to listen now. 560 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: I bought that property chain my life. 561 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: Like a lot of people would think that buying a 562 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: property a brownstone for about three hundred and fifty thousand 563 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: today which is worth almost two million dollars, will be 564 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: the property that changed my life. But you have to 565 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: think that was That was nineteen ninety six buying that property, 566 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: So it took over twenty years for that property to 567 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 2: be worth what it is now. 568 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 6: Did you held the property, Yeah, I. 569 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: Still have that property now, right, I still have that 570 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: property now, But during that time then it there. People 571 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: always ask, well, that property is the one that puts 572 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: you over the tipping point and made you a millionaire, 573 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: And I would tell them no, you know why because 574 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: the rent doesn't equate to the value of the home. 575 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: So when someone says, oh, Grandma has a house here 576 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: worth two million dollars, Grandma can't go get a loan 577 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: out on that house because she doesn't have a way 578 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: to pay for the cash out of that home. The 579 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: money is in the walls. So when if someone likes 580 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: say Grandma dies and now the family wants to decide 581 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: on selling the home or keeping a home, I always 582 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: give the analogy of this. I'm not mad if you 583 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: sell the home just have something to do with the 584 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: money with selling their home, because grandma wants that money 585 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: to create a legacy. Because you have to think, if 586 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: you're going to hold a home worth two million dollars, 587 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: collect three thousand dollars worth of rent, Grandma three kids 588 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: to spend three splitting three thousand dollars worth of rent, 589 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: how far is that going to change your legacy. But 590 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: if you sold a house for two million, and now 591 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: you buy more real estate, you create a trust all 592 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: those things. Now Grandma is smiling down going. That's why 593 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: I bought that house for thirty thousand dollars for y'all 594 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: to do that. So I definitely believe in selling Grandma's 595 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: house with a purpose because a lot of people can't 596 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: pull the cash out. So me buying a house in Indianapolis, 597 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: it was a forty thousand dollar house. I got a 598 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: loan for that house. And this is another thing I 599 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: like to give people advice as I go along in 600 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: the conversation. If that's okay to get a loan on 601 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: a forty thousand dollar property, I always recommend looking at 602 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: local banks in the state where the property is located. 603 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: So I got a loan in that state for forty 604 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That was about eight thousand dollars down. The 605 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: mortgage was two hundred and fifty dollars. Section eight was 606 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: paying eight hundred and fifty dollars. So I'm like, I'm 607 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: making like six hundred dollars a month off this property. 608 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: So at the end of the year it was a 609 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: little less than six hundred because I know I was 610 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: making six thousand dollars a year from an eight thousand 611 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: dollars investment. So I'm like, man, a lot of people 612 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: here that and go, that's not a big amount. But 613 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: the key is it isn't the amount, it's the percentage. 614 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: Someone tells you you can make eighty percent off your money. 615 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: You should look at that percentage and not how much 616 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: that amount is. Someone says, give me one hundred dollars, 617 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you eighty dollars every year from one 618 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Why not. 619 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: It's eighty percent off the one hundred dollars. 620 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm making six thousand dollars off the eight 621 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, and I go, wow, I'm making my money back. 622 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: You know what. I'm at work, I'm thinking this was simple. 623 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with tenants. I don't have 624 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: to deal with anything else. How about I buy another 625 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: one and do this again. And in formulating that idea 626 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: and that structure, I said, if I'm making six thousand 627 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: dollars a year and I'm making sixty thousand dollars a 628 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: year work, how many properties do I need to no 629 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: longer have to come to work? Ten properties? I could 630 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: do that. It's either ten properties in ten years of 631 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: retallying thirty years. That sounded much better. So now once 632 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: I do the math on how that works. Key thing 633 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: that I didn't include, and I want everybody to look 634 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: at this also, I'm a drop it, y'all pick this up. 635 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: We do not value what our tax returns can do 636 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: for us. We get a tax return, is we treat ourselves. 637 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I got six thousand dollars 638 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: coming in. I'm getting seven thousand dollars for my tax return. 639 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: That's fifteen thousand dollars. Excuse me, seven fort No excuse men, 640 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: that's thirteen thousand dollars. I just bought a property for 641 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars. And now on top of that, I said, 642 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep two hundred dollars a month from work. 643 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: So I said, Yo, if I was thinking one property 644 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: a year, ten years, I can now leave. Now I 645 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: have enough to buy two properties a year. I could 646 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: cut that time and have I could leave work in 647 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: five years about two properties a year. So now I'm 648 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: really now I'm going to work with a purpose. The 649 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: biggest thing that we run into personally for myself, is 650 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: where we get caught up. We're not liking our job, 651 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: and the frustration comes in. It's because we don't see 652 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: the exit sign. We get up and go, oh, man, 653 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: I can't do this, you know. So I used to 654 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: get up six thirty to have to be to work 655 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: at seven. I needed every traffic light to always be 656 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: on time. I was going to be late and asked me, 657 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: did I care? I didn't care. And that's a big 658 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: problem because I was now giving people with the power 659 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: to fire me to actually do what they want to 660 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: do most than fire me. 661 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: I had to readjust that thinking. 662 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: And now once that happened, and I started getting up 663 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: at six o'clock now to go over my plan because 664 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: I know I was leaving. 665 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: Now I lead a house about six twenty. 666 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: Now I get the work and now I'm happy going Yeah, 667 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be out of here in five years. 668 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: And they couldn't figure it out. 669 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 7: I know, I know that feeling. I know that feeling 670 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 7: going to work. So here's the thing though, Right, you're 671 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 7: in Brooklyn, Yes, the property is in Indiana. Uh huh, 672 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 7: So how who's managing are you at that point? Having 673 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 7: a property manager? Because I know one of the things 674 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 7: is that you don't even see the properties. No, I've 675 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 7: never seen You've never even seen the property, So how 676 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 7: does you I mean, you're buying it, but you're not 677 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 7: seeing it. So who's managing the property? Do you have 678 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 7: property management at the time or is that like a 679 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 7: lesson that you have to learn during this process. 680 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great thing about having a mentor one 681 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: hundred percent. I have a property manager that oversees the 682 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: property right. And the key thing with this when buying 683 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: a property sight unseen, tenant not being seen, because that's 684 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: another thing. Also, I bought properties that of tenant occupied. 685 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: I get it more. 686 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 6: We're gonna get that. Yeah, were gonna get that. 687 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay stay in the zone, you know what 688 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: I mean. So the property manager, the key thing about 689 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: that is that's when the mindset changes. 690 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: It all starts with the mindset. 691 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: You can't build any type of strong structure if your 692 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: foundation isn't correct. So once I have the mindset of 693 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: understanding that I don't want to be a landlord anymore, 694 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to see properties. I want to delegate 695 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: duties to someone because property management only wants ten percent, 696 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: so that means I'm making ninety percent. They're doing one 697 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: hundred percent of the work, and I'm keeping one hundred 698 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: percent of my time. The key thing was just finding 699 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: the right property management company. They place the tenants, they 700 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: deal with evictions, they deal with fixing. All I have 701 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: to do is concentrate on my plan, which will be 702 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: allowing me to leave work in five years. So finding 703 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: the right property management company is always best to do 704 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: that and to expand your horizon. How will you be 705 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: able to grow what you're trying to do if you're 706 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: trying to do all the work. I believe that you 707 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: can't be the janitor, you can't be the electrician, you 708 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: can't be the plumber, and you can't be the CEO 709 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: if you want to take your company to the next level, 710 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: because all you have to do is look from the 711 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: seat of a CEO and actual company understand his value 712 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: comes in by delegating duties and overseeing the mission. And 713 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: his mission is to grow the company by having assets 714 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: that are making money. And that's where I get into 715 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: buying my assets that are tendant occupied. 716 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 7: All right, so we got let me get these states, right, 717 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 7: and if I miss one, forgive me. Okay, no doubt 718 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 7: because I didn't even have Indiana. I got Alabama, I 719 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 7: got Wisconsin City, Milwaukee, we got Georgia, Florida, Ohio. 720 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: Yes I miss any Indiana Ohio. I think that's it. 721 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. 722 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: The place, the location doesn't matter to me, right because 723 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: the Italia, United States is my marketplace. So I don't 724 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: get caught up where it's at. I only get caught 725 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: up in what that asset is making. 726 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 7: Well, I'll bring up the states because I'm trying to 727 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 7: figure out it is a property manager handling all those properties. 728 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: There we go, No, you have a property manage for 729 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 2: each state. 730 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 6: State was going with? 731 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: You need a property management for each state. And the 732 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: key thing is you become a property manager. We can 733 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: tell touch that topic later. You become the property manager, 734 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: but you have a property management company for each state 735 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: to run those properties. 736 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: Gotcha, So how did you find how'd you find your 737 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: first property? And how do you find property if you're 738 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 5: not actually physically going to these locations? How do you 739 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 5: find these properties? 740 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: Man? You guys come with good questions. 741 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: Let them roll out, Let them roll. How do I 742 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 3: find properties? 743 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: The key thing for me is the place is simple 744 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: sites like real to, Zillow, Trulia, Craigslists, Facebook groups, all 745 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: those places you're looking for properties. Now there's this thing 746 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: where there's a shortage of houses, there's a shortage of properties. 747 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: There's a shortage. And the reason why there isn't a 748 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: shortage in my space because I'm not looking to buy 749 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: a property as a homeowner. Biggest amount of people who 750 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: are looking for homes or homeowners. The next group are 751 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: people want to find distress properties that they can add 752 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: value and do work to it. But when I search 753 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: for properties, I go into the search bar and I 754 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: search for tenant occupy properties section eight properties. How many 755 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: people are searching that? Very few? So I have a 756 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: whole litany of properties that are just there for me 757 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: because the mindset is I'm looking for home to place 758 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: a tenant. I'm looking for home to place a tenant. 759 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 2: But if you think for me as a CEO, where 760 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm looking to buy an asset that's making money. So 761 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking for businesses. It's just so happened. Those businesses 762 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: are properties and the tenants aren't those So I look 763 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: for properties that are Section eight, preferably Section eight. And 764 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: the reason why is because government's living laid on rent. 765 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 2: Governance never laid on rent during COVID. When I first 766 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: was doing this structure, a lot of people would say, man, 767 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with Section eight properties. Man, 768 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 2: they do this, they do that. But I tell them 769 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: that in these other states where people are not on 770 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: top of each other and things of that nature, it's 771 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: more than laid back. You know. It's not like you 772 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: have to come home, you elevates broke, you're walking up 773 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: the steps, thirty houses, everybody's on top of each other. No, 774 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: these people going to work that they may need assistance, 775 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: they may not need assistance, but they're taking care of 776 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 2: those properties. So that's a money maker for me. And 777 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: when I was buying those people really, like I said, 778 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: was looking at it as a negative. But when COVID 779 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: hit and a lot of my investor friends were not 780 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: getting rent and we would have these discussions and they 781 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: would storm how you doing? But I can't relate to 782 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: y'all like I can't because I'm still getting fifteen thousand 783 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: dollars a month in rent continuously. 784 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 6: Section eight. I know VA is something that you spoke 785 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 6: about and long term residents. 786 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, talk about the importance of that, right, Because 787 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 7: I mean one of the things and I heard in 788 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 7: I heard you speak about it was rent rules. I 789 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 7: haven't heard people really talk about rent rules. But now 790 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 7: when you think about it, right, that's the proven method. Right, 791 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 7: we're seeing people paying this is they're productive. They haven't 792 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 7: been laid how a poort that is because I think 793 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 7: that's a step that I think I've heard anybody really 794 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 7: talk about when we talk about real estate earns. What's 795 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 7: going on as you gear a fall. You need the 796 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 7: right people on your team that help your small business 797 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 7: fire on all cylinders. LinkedIn jobs is here to make 798 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 7: it easier to find the people you want to talk to, 799 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 7: faster and for free. When we're looking for a sound engineer, 800 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 7: a graphic designer, or an editor, LinkedIn jobs is the 801 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 7: first place we go create a free job post and 802 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 7: minutes on LinkedIn jobs to reach your network and beyond 803 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 7: to the world's largest professional network of over eight hundred 804 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 7: and ten million people. 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Did you know 814 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 7: every week, nearly forty million job seekers visit LinkedIn Post 815 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 7: your job for free at LinkedIn dot com slash eyl 816 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 7: that's LinkedIn dot com slash eyl to post your job 817 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 7: for free. 818 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 6: Terms and conditions apply. 819 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and I'll take credit for that. Don't worry, 820 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick that up. I'll take that definitely, one 821 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 2: hundred percent, because, like I said, it's like buying a company. 822 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: So if I'm looking for a long term tenant, preferably 823 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 2: they've been living there over a year and a half. 824 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 3: And then I request a rent roll. 825 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: A rent roll strictly states and shows how long they've 826 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: been paying rent and if it's been on time, if 827 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 2: it's been late. So if I'm looking at this asset 828 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: and somebody says, here's the payment structure from this asset, 829 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 2: they've never defaulted on a payment for an entire year 830 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: and a half, why am I not gonna buy it? 831 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: If I buy it, what they're gonna stop making payments? 832 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 2: So now I'm like, yeah, I'm buying that company. I'm 833 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: buying that asset because the money has been proven. It 834 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: also proves another thing. Either they work city, state, federal, 835 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: or government jobs and they weren't impacted by COVID. 836 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 3: Whatever job they have is needed. So I really want 837 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 3: that tenant. 838 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: And I'll give this example to a lot of my 839 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: mentees that I teach, Say, if you want to buy 840 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: a property, I have this nice shiny object, brand newvenovated property. 841 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: You can get fifteen hundred dollars in rent. You just 842 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: got to go put a tenant in there. Or there's 843 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: this other property somebody's been living in there, they've been 844 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: paying one thousand dollars a month, the property is doing well, 845 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 2: they've never been late for two years. Which one would 846 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: you want? You would go find the tenant. Now you 847 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: may lose one month of rent, two months of rent 848 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 2: till you find a new tenant in there. Then you 849 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: get a tenant you don't really know the history. You 850 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: don't really know if their job could whipstand a COVID 851 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: situation or a downturn, or someone who's been proven that 852 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: you got twelve thousand dollars coming every single year with 853 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: a mortgage of about five hundred dollars, Which one you want? 854 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 6: I'm taking the letter. 855 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 5: The rent road is very important to number Matt. We 856 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 5: brought a property with Matt and he was talking about that. 857 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 5: He wanted to check that out to see the rent history. Yeah, 858 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 5: and that's something that I don't think a lot of 859 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 5: people are talking enough about because that's kind of gonna 860 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: give you a window of what you're getting. 861 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 862 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 5: But you could be buying a property and the person 863 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 5: has to pay rent for two years, especially if it's 864 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 5: state like New York where you really can't even kick 865 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 5: people out. It might take two years to kick a 866 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 5: tenant out, So you gotta know what you're getting yourself into. 867 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 5: And like you said, that'll show even if they're late, 868 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 5: if they're late every single month, that's a habit. Yeah, 869 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 5: like that's the right flag. 870 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 7: Three late payments in a year, you see these things. 871 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 7: It's like the same way on a credit report, right, 872 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 7: if they see three late payments of any payment on 873 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 7: your credit history, now you're not as trustworthy. And so 874 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 7: if you look at it from that mindset, it makes 875 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 7: more sense, like Wall, I'm not going to get this asset. 876 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 7: They're not credit worthy or they're not even worthy to 877 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 7: be purchased. 878 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 5: But how do you know how you know the landlord 879 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 5: is given you accurate information? 880 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 3: That's another one great question because I get that a lot. 881 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm serious. 882 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: People are saying, how do you know you're get to 883 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: write information? 884 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: Not only buy properties that have property managements attached to them, 885 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 2: any mom and pop properties, And I'm acting for the 886 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: rent roll, which I very rarely would buy one from 887 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 2: a mom and pop because they don't have a system 888 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: to keep track of that accurately, so they would have 889 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: to rely on giving you bank statements. And then I 890 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 2: tell people the bank statements of what they're giving you, 891 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: they're going to be late payments in there, and what 892 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: they're going to say a lot of times is oh, 893 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: I got to check it out and have time to deposit. 894 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: So now you're taking the word of someone who's trying 895 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: to sell a property to you. That's a problem. 896 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, So that's a lot right, So that I'm trying 897 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 6: to draw the team up. 898 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 7: In my head, property management is one, but you're not there, 899 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 7: So I wonder how important and if this is a 900 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 7: part of the team rolls like somebody who's doing the 901 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 7: appraisal process for you, or somebody's doing inspection for you, Like, 902 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 7: are these are these roles that's part of the team, 903 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 7: because if it's out of state and I'm not there. 904 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 9: I kind of got to rely on these people. Yeah right, yeah, 905 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 9: so is this part of the team. Yes, I call 906 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 9: it the money team, right, this is my money team. Now, 907 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 9: when you find that first property, the first thing you're 908 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 9: going to do, you got to get you a realtor. 909 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 9: Because even when you find a property you use the 910 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 9: methods that I use, you can't put. 911 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 3: The offer in yourself. You need a realtor to put 912 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: the offer in for you. 913 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 2: So my thing is I tell people, get you a 914 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 2: realtor through real To, Zillo whatever, and if that property 915 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: isn't available, what you do is you let the real 916 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: To know that, Hey, I'm out of state investor who's 917 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: only interested in tenant occupied properties. If something comes up, 918 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: send them directly to me. And the reason why they 919 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: would love to send that to you is because they 920 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: don't want to split the commission. If you're real To 921 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: and you get a property and you can sell it, 922 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 2: but you go. It was so faster on real To, 923 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: I just need to split my commission with them. But 924 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: you said, oh man, I got storm over, he likes 925 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: tendet occupied. You're gonna call me so I can buy it. 926 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 2: You're just gonna give me the information. So it's important 927 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: to build that relationship with the realta. And after the 928 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: real To you sign a purchase agreement. You put in 929 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: certain contingencies when you're buying these properties. The contingencies are 930 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: you want the rent roll, you want the leases. If 931 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 2: it's Section eight, you want to Section eight certification. And 932 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: the reason why I like to buy properties that are 933 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: Section eight already tenants in there already is because you're 934 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: inheriting the certification. People when you buy property, and now 935 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: you go down town and now you gotta file for 936 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: Section eight. You gotta wait for an inspection. That takes months. 937 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: Those mortgage payments are kicking in. But when you buy 938 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 2: a property and someone who's Section eight lives there already, 939 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 2: they're just sign it over certification to you. You're a 940 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 2: Section eight landlord. Now, so now when that person moves out, 941 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: guess what, you can put another Section eight tenant in there. 942 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 2: And if it's a duplex, triplex, or a quad, guess what. 943 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: You're a sex and eight landlord. You don't have to 944 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: go downtown, you don't have to do the paperwork. You're 945 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: inheriting everything that comes with the Section eight property. So 946 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: that's why that's another thing where I stay away from 947 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 2: vacancies and trying to do Section eight. That takes time. 948 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: So now once I get that, I get my realtor. 949 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: Now I get the inspector. The realtor is so crucial 950 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: with referral. See, this is all on relationships. The realtor 951 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: is going to recommend and inspect her to go inspect. 952 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: Do the inspector to make sure the property is in 953 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: good shape. Even though you're buying a property with tenant 954 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 2: in it, tenants inside the property. I always sin and 955 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop this now, y'all. Make sure y'all pick 956 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: this up. 957 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 5: It's crucial, very important. 958 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: Make sure you send your property manager with your inspector. 959 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: The reason why is because the inspector is going to 960 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: inspect the property. The property manager is going to inspect 961 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: the tenants. He's gonna make sure the tenants are not 962 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: tearing the house up. He's gonna make sure the tennants 963 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: are keeping. 964 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: A place clean. 965 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: He's gonna do all of those things because he doesn't 966 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 2: want to now work with a property where he's no 967 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to keep coming back here over and 968 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: over again. So now think about that. I got the 969 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 2: real two. Hook me up with the inspector. The inspector 970 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: can also tell me key things like, oh, this area 971 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: is coming up, a lot of investors are coming in 972 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 2: bing I'm buying more properties in. The inspector can tell 973 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: me a lot of inspectors are running. I'm not gonna 974 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 2: buy properties. The inspector can tell me, oh, they talking 975 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 2: about opening up a Walmart. That's crucial. When I bought 976 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: fifteen properties in Birmingham, Alabama, the main reason was because 977 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 2: on Bigger Pockets dot Com we got the word that 978 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 2: there was a war, I mean an Amazon Amazon warehouse 979 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 2: coming before the news. That's what a community does, that's 980 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: what inspector's the information that's on the street. So what 981 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 2: we did Broop all of us were just buying, buying, buying, buying, 982 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: So that's another part of the team. So now you 983 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: also get yourself a handyman or a contracting company. You're 984 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: not getting them to do fix and flips, right, You're 985 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 2: just getting them because when you have a property management 986 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: they will sometimes outsource repairs. So you want to be 987 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 2: able to compare the price with somebody you have just 988 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 2: in case you need someone that can get the work done. 989 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 3: But you want to also remember everything I'm talking about. 990 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: It is thinking on a level of delegating duties and 991 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: becoming a CEO and now being able to expand your 992 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 2: company and building out your money team. Here's the part 993 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: about your money team. Nobody's on salary. Everybody's working for 994 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: you literally and you're not paying them. 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Terms and conditions apply. Hiring 1048 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: Indeed is all you need. 1049 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 5: Joe, do you use banks? Money? How's the financing for this? 1050 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: What I do with fun? I don't do banks. It's 1051 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 2: all commercial lending, hard money LLCs. And the reason why 1052 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 2: is because I started out with banks. Banks are great 1053 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: up to a point, but banks are designed to make 1054 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 2: you a homeowner and not an investor. There's this thing 1055 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 2: called the Golden tickets where you could get ten mortgages 1056 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: with a bank, but that's very hard to achieve. My 1057 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: mentor it's like, yeah, I got ten mortgages, he said, 1058 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you never to try to do that, 1059 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: because when you're trying to get extra mortgages and now 1060 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: you have to show them all these other properties, you 1061 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: know what they gonna want. They're gonna want all the leases. 1062 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna want all the rent rolls. They're gonna want 1063 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: to see your W two's, they're gonna want to see 1064 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: your pay stubs, and by all that time you can 1065 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 2: lose the property, or by that time the property is 1066 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: not worth getting so now and by that time they 1067 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 2: could say, well the appraisal things are not meeting where 1068 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 2: we want. That's time lost. So with hard money, though, 1069 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 2: especially now in these times, interest rates are just comparable. 1070 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 2: And for those that say, well hard money always give 1071 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 2: you higher rates and shorter times and sort of terms, 1072 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 2: that's not true. You have hard money your commercial lenders. 1073 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 2: I do thirty year loans that are very comparable with 1074 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: banks at seven percent interests. So I use hard money 1075 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 2: all day because all they care about is that the 1076 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: asset has equity and it's not underwater. 1077 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 5: That's it. 1078 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 3: They don't want to see nothing else. You got to LLC. 1079 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: You got the property that's worth value, the property of 1080 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: praise right now. I could keep doing that over and 1081 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 2: over again, So I use that hard money. 1082 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 7: Let's talk about LLCs because I've heard and we've had 1083 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 7: people say like, hey, every time you get a property, 1084 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 7: you should make a new LLC for the property. Your 1085 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 7: method is a little bit different than that to a smile. Right, 1086 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 7: I've seen that smile before. Can you break down how 1087 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 7: you formulate or construct your LLCs? 1088 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 2: Yes, normally with the process. When I first saw, I 1089 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: was getting one LLC for one property, get another LLC 1090 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 2: for one property. 1091 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 3: But then I was getting a larger property. 1092 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 2: And the problem was I didn't have history on the 1093 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: LLC to want to get a million dollar loan. 1094 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 7: Right, and we're getting LLC so that we protect ourselves, right, 1095 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 7: it's one hundred percent right. So I want to make 1096 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 7: sure everybody's clear, Like if I get a property, somebody 1097 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 7: try to assume me personally, they can't take my property 1098 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 7: because it's in the LLC. 1099 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the main purpose of getting the LLC got right. 1100 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 2: But what I said was, Okay, what I'm going to 1101 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 2: do is I'm going to buy all my properties moving 1102 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 2: forward in one LLC. 1103 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 3: Why because I want to build up the credit history 1104 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: of this one LLC. 1105 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: So now when I say I need a million dollar 1106 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: loan and I showed them to the LLC, they go, okay, 1107 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 2: he has a million dollar loans worth of loans. Now 1108 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 2: it's never missed the payment. You can have whatever you want. 1109 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: But Now, just just like you mentioned, how does that 1110 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: help with protecting yourself? So now that's when I create 1111 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 2: a holding LLC. The holding LLC main purpose is to 1112 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: protect the property and protect the first LLC, which now 1113 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 2: I will call an acquisition LLC because it's buying properties. 1114 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: So you buy the property in the first LLC, which 1115 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: the acquisition, then you transfer that property into the holding LLC, 1116 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 2: preferably into an animinity state. 1117 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: Simple, it's gonna sound complicated, staying with me. 1118 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: Very simple. Now we hear about holding LLCs and movies 1119 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: all the time. Oh, he purchased this in his LLC. 1120 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: He's hiding this in the holding LLC. The reason why 1121 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 2: is because of the power of the animenity. Animenity states LLCs. 1122 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 2: You can get LLC in any any state, but the 1123 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 2: animenity states to make this work properly. Is New Mexico, Nevada, Delaware? 1124 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 2: Yl I mean yep, yeah, exactly. So Now, once you 1125 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 2: transfer that property into the holding LLC, if somebody was 1126 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 2: the slip and fall and try to sue that LLC, 1127 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 2: remember it's no longer in the acquisition. So your mortgage 1128 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: is cool, that a loan is cool. You can buy more, 1129 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 2: but if somebody was the fall, and now that property 1130 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 2: is in the holding LLC, you're protected. Your mortgage isn't 1131 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 2: attached to it, so they cannot sue you. 1132 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 3: But which, you know, what makes it even more sweet. 1133 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 3: And this is the part we have to look at. 1134 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: When the LLC is an animinity state and compared to it, 1135 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 2: it's not an animenity state. If someone sues your LLC 1136 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 2: and it's in let's say New Jersey, they say, we 1137 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 2: can't sue him, so we're just gonna settle for whatever 1138 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 2: we can get. But let's look in Google and. 1139 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 3: See who owns the LLC. Oh Man Troy, he. 1140 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: Owns this LLC. That's a civil lawsuit. All day people 1141 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 2: have been sued who owned the LLCs through civil lawsuits. 1142 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 2: Because your name is exposed and now they know what 1143 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: you own. Why do they call it a holding LLC? 1144 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: Why they use animenity states specifically because of this reason. 1145 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: We just haven't took it on to do a little 1146 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: deep diving into that. So now it's protected in the 1147 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 2: holding LLC. But now here's another thing. Well, you're collecting rent. 1148 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: Where's the rent going? Now you have another LLC for 1149 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 2: property management because you become a property manager. The rent's 1150 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 2: going to the property management LLC. And the main reason 1151 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 2: because if you were to collect rent in the same 1152 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: LLC as the property and somebody's slips and fall, they 1153 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 2: freeze all the assets, that includes the bank accounts, that 1154 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 2: includes your money. So now you have a property management 1155 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: a property management LLC in the states you live in, 1156 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: because you're going to be doing taxes collecting that money. 1157 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 2: So now if you have properties out of state, they're 1158 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 2: going to pay you and your property management LLC and 1159 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 2: you will not have to pay me. Slow down on 1160 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 2: this part. You will not pay property taxes and those 1161 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 2: other states because your property management companies collecting their money 1162 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 2: and they're now wiring you the money in your state. 1163 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 2: The only taxes you have to pay is a business 1164 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 2: privileged tax. So if you're making thousands of dollars in 1165 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 2: that other state, you just pay a business privileged tax 1166 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 2: for doing business in that state, which is normally three 1167 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 2: hundred and four hundred dollars. 1168 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 5: So all right, let me ask you this. Are you 1169 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 5: talking about living trust and how that change your life? 1170 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 5: Can you talk about that? 1171 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty nineteen, my life changed, buying real estate, 1172 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 2: doing all these great things I understood the value of 1173 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 2: having real estate and wanting to hand it over to 1174 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 2: my legacy to create a legacy with that. But once 1175 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 2: I actually went to create a living trust and I 1176 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 2: saw what it can do, That's when I knew I 1177 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: had a bigger narrative I needed to share with the people. 1178 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 2: So my thing was, I looked at who created a 1179 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: living trust to hand it down through the legacy, and 1180 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 2: I said, it's Rockefeller. So I went on to read 1181 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 2: the Rockefeller Trust from nineteen thirty four, and also there's 1182 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 2: a book called what would Rockefeller Do? So I stayed 1183 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 2: up reading all these things about how he would take this, 1184 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 2: put it in an account and only give a portion 1185 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: to the legacy, and then have his children create a trust. 1186 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 2: And now that money compound interest. He wouldn't give it 1187 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 2: to him until they turn a certain age. And I'm like, 1188 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 2: I could do that. 1189 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 5: We can do that. 1190 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 2: The information was right there. So I sat down with 1191 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: my trust attorney. I said, I want to do that, Like, well, 1192 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: you want to do it, but I want to do that. 1193 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 2: It can be done. So we structured it, worked it 1194 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: out where if not if but unfortunately we all pass away. 1195 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: When I pass away, a percentage of my properties would 1196 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 2: be sold, not the ones that I hold long term, 1197 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 2: like I have properties I do keep my short term properties, 1198 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 2: those would be sold. That money would now go into 1199 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 2: a brokerage account. That brokerage account would be in the 1200 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: name of the trust. That money for that specific account 1201 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 2: would be for my grandchildren starting off, not my immediate family. 1202 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 2: My immediate family would get my life insurance policies, which 1203 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 2: are millions of dollars policies, and the main properties that. 1204 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 3: I hold, so they are taken care of. 1205 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 2: But we need to start thinking about the grandkids, the 1206 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 2: great grandkids, those generations. How do you start their growth? 1207 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 2: You start their growth by putting that money in a 1208 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 2: brokerage account, and they don't get that money until they 1209 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 2: turn twenty one years old. So let's use the example 1210 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 2: of a million dollars. I put a million dollars in 1211 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 2: a brokerage account for my grandkids. They don't get that 1212 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 2: till they turn twenty one, gaining six percent interest six 1213 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 2: percent interest. They say, that's twenty one. So that money 1214 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 2: turn answer to about three point eight million dollars for 1215 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 2: my grandkids. 1216 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 3: My grandkids, they wouldn't get it. 1217 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: All that we could have about one point six till 1218 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 2: I leave one point six in there for my great 1219 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: grandchildren for twenty one years. 1220 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 3: That now turns into about three four five six. 1221 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 2: That turns into about six point seven million dollars for 1222 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 2: my great grandchildren. They don't get it all they could have, 1223 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 2: so now that's about one point one know, about two 1224 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 2: point two point three two point three stays in for 1225 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 2: my great great grandchildren, so they get about eight point 1226 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 2: one million dollars. You see how that happens. That's compound 1227 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 2: interest over twenty one years. So we have to look 1228 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 2: at that number. But what makes the trigger and the 1229 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 2: explosion even bigger is the fact that what Rockefeller did 1230 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 2: is that was just his trust. What he did was, 1231 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 2: now each children opened up, each child opened up a trust. 1232 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: So now his children had a trust, so he would 1233 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 2: pay his grandchildren, and his children would pay them. That's twice. 1234 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: So now his grand his children, and then his grandchildren 1235 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 2: have a trust, so his great grandchildren would get paid 1236 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: three times. So now if we look at rocket fuller 1237 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: trust paid out now eleven generations and counting continuously. And 1238 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 2: what he also did was have a life insurance policy 1239 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 2: on every person in the trust, creating his own bank. 1240 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 3: And now what does that do? 1241 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: This is my structure. Also, any one of my children 1242 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 2: or grandchildren who want to start a business, what do 1243 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: they do? Talk to the trustees and now you borrow money. 1244 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 2: We become our own bank. So when someone dies, that 1245 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 2: money goes into the trust. You pay when you get 1246 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 2: the policy, you pay it out right. So now that 1247 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: money is available in the trust. So now also what 1248 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 2: I did was I retweaked my trust last year and 1249 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 2: it was twenty one that I wouldn't give them money. 1250 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: I changed it. I changed the way they get money 1251 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 2: at eighteen and they can have a business started at eleven. 1252 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: You know why because now with technology, kids are now 1253 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 2: figuring out new ways to start a business. So I 1254 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 2: want them to be able to present a business loan, 1255 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: a business proposal to the trustees so they could borrow money. 1256 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 2: These are the things where we don't look at them. 1257 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 2: When people say I don't have the money to do this. 1258 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: You know what I tell them, Yes, you do. The 1259 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: air you breathe is money a life insurance policy. Soon 1260 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 2: as you die, you worth money. Their generations and their 1261 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: groups of people when people die, their objectives to make 1262 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 2: sure they have a policy on their grandmother policy on 1263 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: their father to do exactly what we're talking about. But 1264 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: we look at us taboo when it can't be taboo. 1265 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be taboo. The main thing about it is 1266 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 2: you're thinking about the legacy. And when I tell people, 1267 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 2: when I speak to you, I'm not speaking You don't speaking. 1268 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 3: To your ley legacy. 1269 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 2: You're just a vessel for me to get the message 1270 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 2: to you so you can hear the message and see 1271 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 2: it and it reverberates in your brain. And as it's 1272 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 2: doing this, you literally are talking to your legacy while 1273 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm speaking, going I got you, don't worry. Storm told 1274 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 2: me how to do it. Now I'm gonna give me 1275 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 2: a life insurance policy. When people have a life insurance policy, 1276 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 2: let's say roughly four million dollars, you have half a 1277 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 2: million dollars left on your home mortgage, and you say 1278 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: to yourself, I'm leaving my family a million dollar. Actually 1279 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 2: you're not, because when you die, that policy has to 1280 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 2: pay half a million to the mortgage so they can 1281 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 2: stay in the house. You're only leaving them half a 1282 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 2: million dollars. We don't think about that mortgage behind us. 1283 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 3: So this is where I say, get yourself a whole life. 1284 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Excuse me, get yourself a term that's for half a 1285 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 2: million or a million dollars just to cover the house 1286 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 2: so your real policy doesn't get broken up. And now 1287 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 2: you have that term, pay off the mortgage, any money left, 1288 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 2: put it in a broken'e account, and now you start 1289 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 2: the system. 1290 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 5: So let's stay on this conversation about the trust for 1291 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 5: a minute. So irrevocable life insurance trust or a. 1292 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: Revocable Left's just start off as a revocable voc because 1293 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 2: you want to. 1294 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 5: Be able to say and you can change it. Yes, 1295 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 5: all right? So all right, so who set this up 1296 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 5: for you? Your attorney? Yeah, my statement, you told them 1297 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 5: or they you educated them when they educated you. Obviously 1298 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 5: they're already educated because their attorney where it sounds like 1299 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 5: you kind of already had some idea of what you 1300 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 5: wanted to do because you did some reading before that. 1301 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 5: So what was the process? You kind of said, this 1302 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 5: is what I want to do, and then they kind 1303 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 5: of add to it or they said this is what 1304 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 5: you should do. 1305 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: I came to them with my plan and my structure first, 1306 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 2: and I really wasn't taking a note for an answer 1307 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 2: because I know it could be done. And there are 1308 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: some people that, like there are mechanics who cars are broke, like, 1309 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 2: they just don't know fully how to do certain things. 1310 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 2: So you really have to find the right person that 1311 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 2: does these things. And I would always say, speak to 1312 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 2: someone who has a trust, speak to someone who you know. 1313 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 2: They can refer you to someone, but that takes time, 1314 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 2: but they would give me little tidbits of where we 1315 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 2: can do this, or they have a network of people 1316 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 2: and a law firm and they reach out to them. 1317 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 3: Like my first trust cost me about twelve thousand dollars. 1318 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 2: My newest one costs me roughly almost twenty thousand because 1319 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: I have a lot of things to fund it with. 1320 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 2: But if starting out, trust probably run you anywhere from 1321 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: three to six thousand dollars. But you have to look 1322 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 2: at the big picture. But I started out having a 1323 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 2: plan and I really really was adamant about getting this 1324 01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 2: structure done. 1325 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 5: That was it for me. 1326 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 2: You have a will too, Yeah, with the trust, there's 1327 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 2: a thing called a poor over will that's attached to 1328 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 2: the trust for all the items that you don't put 1329 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,479 Speaker 2: into the trust automatically pulls over and fall into the will, 1330 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 2: like jewelry, like things that are air looms, it'll automatically 1331 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 2: go in that will. 1332 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm saying that thinking obviously you're educated. How often 1333 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 7: are you meeting with your trust attorney? Because I was 1334 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 7: having a conversation with a young lady the other day 1335 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 7: and she's finding it hard to have her parents, you know, 1336 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 7: even buy into the idea of a trust. So how 1337 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 7: often did you meet with family if you did at all? 1338 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 7: And how often did you meet with the trust attorney? 1339 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 7: Is that like a once a year thing or was 1340 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 7: it every six months? Because I'm sure you acquiring properties 1341 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 7: and other assets throughout the year, Like, how often is 1342 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 7: that happening? 1343 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 2: In the beginning, when I started, we had to have 1344 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 2: a conversation literally it was about almost every other week, 1345 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 2: sometimes every week to plan us out with insurance and 1346 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 2: all that stuff. Very complicated. But once it was set, 1347 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 2: the updating of the trust is every three years, right, 1348 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 2: but if there's something of urgency that I need to update, 1349 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 2: because here's the thing, and I want to throw this 1350 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 2: part also, I'm gonna drop it. Y'all pick this up. 1351 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 2: When you're buying things in you're holding company, you're holding 1352 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 2: LLC should be in the name of your trust. So 1353 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 2: if something happens to you, the properties automatically fall into 1354 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 2: the trust, automatically fall in there, So you don't have 1355 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 2: to fund the trust because the trust own the LLC. 1356 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: So if let me give a quick example. You know 1357 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 2: how you put your name on every single LLC. You 1358 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 2: open up a LLC, you put your name on it, 1359 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 2: You open up the LLC, you put your name on it. 1360 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 2: But if you was to have the property one two 1361 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 2: three Smith Street in its own LLC, the name on 1362 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 2: that LLC would not be you, it would be your trust. 1363 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 2: So if something ever happens, it automatically goes to the 1364 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 2: trust because you sign the trust over as the owner. 1365 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Automatically so would trinkle effect. So 1366 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 2: with that being said, excuse me. So with that being said, said, 1367 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have to fund one at a time. You 1368 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 2: could just have that trust on all these LLCs bile 1369 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 2: straight in from your holding. But also, to let me 1370 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 2: not glaze over something you said, it's so important to 1371 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: have the conversation with your family and sit them down 1372 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 2: and explain. Because my thing was, afterything's said and done, 1373 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 2: my lawyer, we would have the conversation with each one 1374 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: of them here's who's getting this. Who's the trust there's 1375 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 2: the trustee. This is what's going to happen. This is 1376 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be. I want you to do this, 1377 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 2: and it's a thing I'll call a letter of trust handwritten. 1378 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 2: I want this copy of this letter in my hand 1379 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 2: written form and my signature be copied for every generation, 1380 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 2: every trustee, so they could look and go he thought 1381 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 2: about me. I want them to see what I meant 1382 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 2: and why I did this, because that's powerful and they 1383 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 2: will get it and go. Man, my great great grandfather 1384 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 2: thought about me. So that letter you don't have to. 1385 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 2: But the thing is always impact. So you need to 1386 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 2: have that discussion with your kids, your grandkids. There's only 1387 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 2: so far trust can go. It only could go to 1388 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 2: the last person alive in your generation up to a 1389 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 2: certain age. So like if I have my grandchildren, my 1390 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 2: last one or he would have to now take the 1391 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 2: trust format and restart it again and follow the same thing. 1392 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 2: Trust can't live on an infamy. 1393 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 7: So you've created the generational wealth and the other part 1394 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 7: was just the sustainable wealth yep, Like that's the key, right, 1395 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 7: because it could get mixed up from generation generation. Yeah, 1396 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 7: but what you're doing is pretty much putting up the 1397 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 7: barriers like, no, we're going to sustain this forever forever. 1398 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 2: The biggest, biggest mistake that a lot of people make, 1399 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 2: unfortunately when we have real estate is thinking that our 1400 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 2: children want to be landlords. We can't. We can't assume 1401 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 2: that they want to be landlords. I had a friend 1402 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 2: of mine who I knew through someone else. He died, 1403 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 2: didn't have a trust, left the properties to his kids 1404 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 2: in a will. They so long because they didn't want 1405 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 2: nothing to do with real estate. That's that destroyed me 1406 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 2: because I knew what his objective was. So we need 1407 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 2: to put things in place to go, Okay, if you 1408 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 2: don't want to be a landlord, this is what we're 1409 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 2: gonna do. I'ma have a company do this, or we're 1410 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 2: gonna sell it. Put the properties in the brokerage account 1411 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 2: where it's gaining compound interest to do something. So that's 1412 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 2: the key. We need to stop, you know, really projecting 1413 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 2: our our wants and needs on children and grandkids when. 1414 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I got my own plan, that's free, 1415 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 3: that's COO. 1416 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 5: Can you give a financial breakdown on how you was 1417 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 5: able to replace your salary? 1418 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick. The financial breakdown structure for me was 1419 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 2: I brought that one property, was making that six thousand 1420 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: a year, and then after making US six thousand a year, 1421 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna keep doing this. But I took 1422 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 2: the tax returns and that money equated. But what triggered 1423 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 2: it was creating group economics partnerships. We need to understand 1424 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 2: the value of creating partners and how fast you can 1425 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 2: grow your portfolio with properties with partners. People say I 1426 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 2: have one hundred doors, right, They don't have one hundred 1427 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 2: doors by themselves. They have like ten partners, which is 1428 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 2: great because they're expanding their money. Why would you take 1429 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: one million dollars to buy one property if you could 1430 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 2: take one million dollars to spread down across five properties, 1431 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 2: that's five buildings grow in equity, that's five different properties. 1432 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: You're riding off on taxes. That's a whole nother scenario 1433 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 2: having riding off taxes. When you have a property management LLC, 1434 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 2: you're able to write off a portion of your light, 1435 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 2: gas car. You need to knowledge there's apps like Avalance 1436 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: cell phone, like, we don't take advantage of that portion 1437 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 2: of the business because we go Now I'm just gonna 1438 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 2: pay my tax when a wealthy is really maneuvering through 1439 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 2: the proper structure of taxes, because providing housing and jobs 1440 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 2: is the biggest thing that the government gives you is 1441 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 2: a tax break, and we don't take advantage. 1442 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 3: We should take advantage of those taxes. 1443 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 2: I make a good amount of money on my taxes 1444 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 2: because of having a property management LLC and a home office. 1445 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 2: A certain amount of your home you use it as 1446 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 2: an office, square footage, the computer you buy, write off, desk, printers, 1447 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 2: everything I mentioned. It's a write off. But we don't 1448 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 2: take advantage of that. Even even in the inception of 1449 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 2: having a business, you're taking a loss. You have a 1450 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 2: credit card, you don't have a business account, yet you 1451 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 2: can still write a portion of that off until you 1452 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 2: get a business account with an EI in and a 1453 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 2: business credit card because you need it to start your business. See, 1454 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,600 Speaker 2: these are the things where we need to have that. 1455 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 3: Discussion and go, oh, that's dope, that's dope. 1456 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 2: But unfortunately a lot of times that what happens is 1457 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 2: we tend to compare how you're making money and I'm 1458 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: making money and say you're doing it wrong, and that's 1459 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 2: not true. There's so many different ways of making money, 1460 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 2: especially in real estate. Be like, oh, that's dope, I'm 1461 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 2: not doing it that way, but here's how I do it. 1462 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:54,799 Speaker 2: A word, I got. 1463 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 3: Somebody who will like your way of doing it. 1464 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 2: And now the story gets bigger and bigger collaborating Like 1465 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 2: how you two guys collaborated, It's beautiful. 1466 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 3: Look at the growth of that. I collaborated with my guys. 1467 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 2: Ask the Marvin Mitchell for Path of prosperity collaboration and 1468 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,719 Speaker 2: now we're gonna touch thousands of people. 1469 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, I know I took it to all another 1470 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 3: places for us. 1471 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 7: You talked about partnerships, but there's something even when we 1472 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 7: started this episode about being in the right place all 1473 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 7: the time. Yes, and so being in that room with 1474 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 7: Juvenile you got to introduce to us. Ash was there too, 1475 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 7: and you knew him, and he was like, Yo, this 1476 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 7: is my guy. 1477 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 5: Right. 1478 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 7: We went to him five hundreds event we were together there. 1479 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 7: He talked about being in the right place all the time. 1480 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 7: Because I feel like you're one of those people who 1481 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 7: really personify that, right, Like I'm always seeing you everywhere 1482 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 7: and I'm like I'm watching you and you text me like, Yo, 1483 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 7: it's in my time, like, yo, bro, we're watching we 1484 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 7: see what's going on. 1485 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 6: He talk about that. 1486 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so important to invest in yourself and be 1487 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 2: in the right room, Like that's you cannot gain that 1488 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,560 Speaker 2: just being around the same people. And that really was 1489 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 2: self explanatory my two friends when I went to go 1490 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 2: see that Browns home, like me being in that room, 1491 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,680 Speaker 2: being in this room, that where I can talk to 1492 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 2: other people, I can network, people can fill my energy. 1493 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 2: You guys get to see the real me besides just 1494 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 2: watching a post. People get to find out that, oh, 1495 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 2: you actually investing in your growth, you actually doing something 1496 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 2: like this thing that's inside of me. This can't really 1497 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 2: come through a camera and a post the way that 1498 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to because I'm passionate about this. But then 1499 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 2: when I talk to you guys, sometimes it's a little 1500 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 2: too much of a passion. But you know what is like, 1501 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 2: this is all I have because really talking to my 1502 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 2: people and trying to change our lives. I know my 1503 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 2: purpose of being here is to be in the right 1504 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 2: room and change lives, and I can't do that through 1505 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: that screen. I need for you to be able to 1506 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: hear me and see me, and through these interviews and stuff, 1507 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 2: like that and go. He just says something that motivate 1508 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 2: me and did something. So for those of you that 1509 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 2: think like me and you feel like me, we're not 1510 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 2: gonna get that. If you're in that room, we need 1511 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 2: you to come out be around I like minded people. 1512 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Invest in yourself, pay for those mentorships, Pay to go 1513 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 2: to these places, fly to New York, fly to La Fi, 1514 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 2: to Miami. Let people see you beat be very active 1515 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 2: in comments, commenting, posting, talking like when you're doing that, 1516 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 2: people notice I started with one person online going live, 1517 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:26,600 Speaker 2: I started teaching four people on a zoom now staying consistent. 1518 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 2: So I highly recommend you guys do that. 1519 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 5: When did you when we were able to quit your job? 1520 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 2: I quit my job literally in twenty fifteen, I said 1521 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 2: five years, and in twenty twenty I was ready to 1522 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 2: quit my job. I was able to leave me. 1523 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 6: He ain't quit his job. He fired his job. 1524 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1525 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 6: They couldn't afford them anymore. 1526 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 5: So how many properties did that take you to be 1527 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 5: able to do that? 1528 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 2: Well? When I I was able to leave in twenty twenty, 1529 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: I stayed one more year. And the reason why because 1530 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 2: I was getting all my medical benefits I wasn't gonna 1531 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 2: leave with all giving you all them years and lead 1532 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 2: that medical behind. So I stayed till twenty twenty one, 1533 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 2: and I got all my properties, I mean, excuse me, 1534 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 2: and I got all my medical benefits. I left my 1535 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 2: job oning twenty four properties, and I was doing about 1536 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand a month at that time, and I'm currently well, 1537 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm selling now, downgrading some of the properties to do 1538 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 2: bigger deals. But I bought over thirty six properties around 1539 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 2: the United States that I've never seen to this day, 1540 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 2: and I don't plan on seeing them ever, none of them. 1541 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 7: The medical was the number one thing, because a lot 1542 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,600 Speaker 7: of times it's usually like a financial goal, Like I 1543 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 7: remember being in the education system and I'm like, if 1544 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 7: I could just reach this goal, I'm out of here. 1545 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 7: Then you reached the goal and you sit, you set 1546 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 7: another one, you said, another one, he said another one, 1547 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 7: till it's like, well, this doesn't make sense. Was it 1548 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 7: just the medical or was there a financial aspect too 1549 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 7: that was like if I hit this number, then the verrizonocks. 1550 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 2: No, I want sents. The medical Like once the medical 1551 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 2: kicked in, I left. I could have stayed five more 1552 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 2: years for four pension. I didn't get a four pension right, so, 1553 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 2: and I was doing about a hundred thousand dollars a year. 1554 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 2: So I left with five years left. So I left 1555 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 2: half a million dollars on the table, not including overtime, 1556 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 2: like in Verizon overtime, you can make a quarter million 1557 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 2: dollars a year easy through in the like in overtime. 1558 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 2: But I left that money, and then I left the 1559 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 2: extra pension money. So I left almost a million dollars. 1560 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 2: But it would have took me five more years when 1561 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 2: I can make a million dollars in a month or 1562 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 2: day or two days or three days, depending on up 1563 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 2: to me. So, but I wanted the medical because this 1564 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 2: like medical has bankrupt people. Medical you get sick, wife 1565 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,680 Speaker 2: gets sick, kids get sick, somebody gets sick. You can 1566 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 2: lose it all. So the goal was to get the 1567 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 2: medical and the thought process of how important it is 1568 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,719 Speaker 2: to be around the right people, like I'll never forget. 1569 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 2: I went in on Instagram live the day I was 1570 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 2: leaving the job. I said, look, I'm driving in. I'm like, Yo, 1571 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 2: this is it. I'm leaving the job, y'all, Like I 1572 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 2: can't believe this moment, you know, I spoke about it, 1573 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,720 Speaker 2: brought it to it. Ziah could do the same thing, 1574 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,919 Speaker 2: and you know, and I went in and had ask 1575 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 2: hat shirt, and people like, yo, you can back to work. 1576 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 2: I said, y'all think I'm coming back like this, So no, 1577 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,879 Speaker 2: I'm out of here. And the mindset was the mindset 1578 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 2: was scary because there was like, no, you really just 1579 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 2: stay Yo, five more years, man, you're five more years. 1580 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 2: You could get a full pension. I say, Yo, God 1581 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 2: bless you. Man. 1582 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 6: They don't get God blessed. 1583 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,519 Speaker 2: Some people would never get it. There's Indians, there's chiefs, 1584 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 2: there's buyers, there's sellers, there's owners and his renters. That's 1585 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 2: how it's meant to be. Life is definitely going to 1586 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 2: be like that. You can't save everyone like us trying 1587 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 2: to save someone. That's a problem because not all lives 1588 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 2: are meant to be saved. Some lives were meant to 1589 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,720 Speaker 2: be examples of what you should never do in life. 1590 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 2: Some people lives were meant to crash and burn to 1591 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 2: be an example for twenty other people to go, I 1592 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,799 Speaker 2: don't ever want to be like him. That was their destiny. 1593 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 2: But when you run around you're trying to save people lives. Now, 1594 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 2: you're stopping yourself from growing to your full potential because 1595 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 2: you're trying to be a life saver, so you'll never 1596 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 2: reach your potential. So now there's two groups of people 1597 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: caught in the mix. You have people like us where 1598 01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,560 Speaker 2: we go. We could look and go, well, I know 1599 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 2: my per of what I'm supposed to do. That destiny 1600 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 2: has already been spoken for them, in mine has been 1601 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: chosen for me. So I don't think about trying to 1602 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 2: change somebody's mind when it's already been set in stone. 1603 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,760 Speaker 2: Let people come to me and then I know they're 1604 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 2: ready to absorb the message. 1605 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 6: Thirty six properties out of state. 1606 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 7: It's always been a thing, but originally it was because 1607 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,560 Speaker 7: just the pricing of being in New York. Yes, but 1608 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 7: we're looking at bigger deals. Are those bigger deals still 1609 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 7: going to be out of state? Or we're looking like, 1610 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 7: all right, well at a point where we could probably 1611 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 7: do something major here in New York. 1612 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 2: I would never buy property in New York. I would 1613 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 2: never buy proper in LA. I would never do something 1614 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 2: like that. Like I would buy properties and like now 1615 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing looking to do syndication deals for one hundred unit, 1616 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 2: two hundred units, three four five million dollars stuff like that. 1617 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 2: But those are not buying holes. Those are things that 1618 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 2: we're buying for one hundred units that we can add 1619 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 2: value to by doing upgrades, raising a rent, laundry rooms, 1620 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 2: play things like that, and then as the syndication, we 1621 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: would sell the deal, sell that property in five years, 1622 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 2: and everybody walks away with their money. But I would 1623 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 2: never do an individual deal with a Brownstone of buying 1624 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 2: something for three to four million dollars or seven million 1625 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 2: dollars because, like I mentioned, a million dollar mortgage, it's 1626 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,639 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars. You would never make that rent back. 1627 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 2: So then there's other plays that you would have to do, 1628 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 2: and those plays are very risky play because you're relying 1629 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 2: on the banking system to state the way it is 1630 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 2: when you're doing these kind of renovations and things of 1631 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 2: that nature. And now I have people that have been 1632 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 2: doing fixing flips and it's not really working out for them, 1633 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 2: where the money's not coming in. Banks are not allowing 1634 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 2: you to get that eighty percent, seventy percent, seventy five 1635 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 2: percent when you flip, and you'd be like, oh, I'm 1636 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 2: gonna pull this much money out. Nah, it's not working 1637 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 2: like that no more. But so my structure of guaranteed 1638 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 2: income that's solid. That's for somebody who's going to work 1639 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 2: every day that goes. I don't have to see a property. 1640 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 2: I don't have to do nothing. I got eight thousand 1641 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 2: dollars storm deal with eight thousand dollars. I got a 1642 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 2: fall one K sitting with one hundred thousand dollars. I 1643 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 2: know I can do it. I have people in my mentorships. 1644 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 2: I have people that are doing it to this day, 1645 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 2: changing their lives. One pre they out of time because 1646 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,679 Speaker 2: the goal is to replace your salary. 1647 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 5: So speaking about your mentorship, you when did you get 1648 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 5: into the education space? When did you start actually, you know, 1649 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 5: teaching people what you do. 1650 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 2: I actually started when I first went online, Like the 1651 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 2: goal was to teach people, you know, when George Floyd 1652 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 2: situation happened, I knew real estate was it and I 1653 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,719 Speaker 2: wanted to educate people. So I turned through my phone 1654 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 2: Instagram Live and I was most awkward thing in the world. 1655 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 2: I was looking away and I just lens off foggy 1656 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 2: and I said, I want to teach four people how 1657 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 2: to buy real estate out of state. Send me a message. 1658 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 2: I looked at my DM there was like six people. 1659 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,719 Speaker 2: So I start teaching them for sitching them six first 1660 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 2: for the whole month, how to invest out of state, 1661 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 2: how to do this, and I start videotaping. I started 1662 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 2: talking about it online, showing a class, and people were excited. 1663 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 2: I started getting more messages, but I said, you know what, 1664 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm only going to do four people every month. That 1665 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 2: was like October, November came. I was taught those four people, 1666 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,639 Speaker 2: and by December showing you know, all the people who 1667 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,640 Speaker 2: are in the class, posting and talking about out of 1668 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,600 Speaker 2: state and this and that. It got so look, I 1669 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 2: had ten people, twelve people signing up, but I was 1670 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 2: committed to doing four. And I said. There was one 1671 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 2: young lady who called me New Year's Eve, I never 1672 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 2: forget this, she called. She literally was almost in tears. 1673 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 2: She says, storm, I don't want to come into the 1674 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 2: New Years doing the same thing I'm doing. I know 1675 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,640 Speaker 2: what you're teaching could change my life. How can I 1676 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,600 Speaker 2: pay to move up? How can I be in this 1677 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 2: next class you're going to teach for the New Years? 1678 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Because she was scheduled for March, she said, I can't wait. 1679 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 2: And I said, yo, you're doing a disservice. That's when 1680 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,599 Speaker 2: I reached out to Ash and I said, bro, how 1681 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 2: can I do this thing on a bigger scale? And 1682 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 2: he looked and he said, first thing you gotta do 1683 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,919 Speaker 2: is stop teaching live. He said, you got enough material 1684 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 2: to turn into a course. I said, a course. He said, yes, 1685 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 2: all those videos you got, Let's get on a call. 1686 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 2: Let's get on a zoom. He showed me how to 1687 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 2: do it boom. Then I said, oh, I could teach 1688 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 2: more people. I can do the course. I can give that, 1689 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 2: But from the beginning I wanted to give people the 1690 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 2: knowledge to be able to change their life. 1691 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 5: So now you have a mentorship. Yep, we'll talk about them. 1692 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 5: What does that mentorship? 1693 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 2: And clue the mentorship includes you getting all everything I 1694 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,560 Speaker 2: talk about. I have three courses, so I give you 1695 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 2: one that's Mastering out of State Investing that gives you 1696 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 2: soup the nuts how to invest out of state. Then 1697 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 2: another one called the three must Have LLCs, where I 1698 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 2: give you the complete breakdown of everything with the LLCs 1699 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 2: simplify form. Then I have one called the Power of 1700 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 2: a Living Trust that talks about my living trust, how 1701 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 2: I structure it. Reading the Rockefeller Trust so you get 1702 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 2: all that information, you get a year's mentorship sitting with 1703 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 2: me and I do weekly calls and also do quarterly calls, 1704 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 2: and I teach my mentor my mentees in the ranks 1705 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 2: to become educators. That's the thing I highlight them. I 1706 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 2: teach them to become educators. Educators teach the class. 1707 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 3: Because I need them to start their own mentorship so 1708 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,599 Speaker 3: they can now teach people. 1709 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,560 Speaker 5: So very you impressed me, especially with your knowledge on 1710 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 5: the living trust situation. And I used to actually be 1711 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 5: a financial advisor for twelve years. 1712 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh, get out of here. 1713 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, so you know, it's very rare that I 1714 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 5: come across somebody that's like, actually, you know, very impressive 1715 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:08,640 Speaker 5: with that. You delivered it. You delivered it in a 1716 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,560 Speaker 5: in a in a high level. So you have a 1717 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 5: you have a very good gift of communication. Oh man, 1718 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,839 Speaker 5: thank cause that's important, especially when dealing with complicated issues. 1719 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 5: A lot of times, even if you know something, it's 1720 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 5: kind of hard to communicate it, and that's what stops 1721 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 5: a lot of people from learning because they feel like 1722 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 5: it's too it's too over their heads to advance and 1723 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 5: a person really can't communicate it correctly. So they just like, 1724 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 5: you know, just stay away from it. But I'm a 1725 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 5: big proponent for like online education because I feel like 1726 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 5: that's where college and formal education kind of failed us, 1727 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 5: because it's like you're not learning these type of things 1728 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 5: like the trust and stuff like that, Like you're not 1729 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 5: learning that at any university, even if you study business 1730 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 5: and not teaching you that. So that's the stuff that 1731 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 5: you actually have to learn in the real world. And 1732 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 5: that's what I learned, like just being in the financial 1733 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 5: planning world. These are like retreats and meetings that I 1734 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 5: was going to and they was having conversations about trust, 1735 01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 5: or you're on the golf course and you're talking to 1736 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 5: your friend and they're telling you about it, educating you 1737 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 5: on the space. But for the vast majority of people, 1738 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 5: we're not in that circle professionally or personally to have 1739 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 5: those conversations the conversations that we have and it's like, yo, 1740 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 5: we want to go to the club, or even if 1741 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 5: it's a productive conversation, it's a conversation of like, you know, 1742 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 5: how can you fill out your student loan application for 1743 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 5: your child? Like you know, these are the conversations that 1744 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 5: you have in with your peers because usually people conversate 1745 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 5: on their level, So your problems, your issues are the 1746 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 5: same issues as somebody else. The credy thing about it 1747 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 5: is that but like the vast majority, their problems are 1748 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 5: like they don't have enough money, so the problems are 1749 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 5: like how can I get a mortgage? Or how can 1750 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,679 Speaker 5: I put my kid through student loan? But some people 1751 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,519 Speaker 5: problems is that they have too much money, So their 1752 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 5: problems is like how can I not pay taxes? How 1753 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,840 Speaker 5: can I avoid the state tax? How can like that's 1754 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 5: a problem. You know what I'm saying. Good, So you 1755 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 5: end up do yeah, So you end up communicating that, 1756 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 5: you share resources and you share information, but very few 1757 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 5: people actually get that information because they're not in that conversation. 1758 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 5: So now with the online education space, it's opened up. 1759 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 5: It's like a glitch in a matrix where it's opened 1760 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 5: up that what used to be a secret conversation and 1761 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,960 Speaker 5: now it's open to the masses. And that's really life 1762 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,800 Speaker 5: changing on a variety of different things, as far as 1763 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 5: on the investment side, real estate of course, on the 1764 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,720 Speaker 5: trust side and the LLC. That was good information as well, 1765 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 5: because that's something that people don't really dig too deep 1766 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 5: in either that they just talk about setting up an LLC, 1767 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 5: setting up a c corp escort by a cool But 1768 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 5: there's levels, you know what I'm saying, Like there's levels 1769 01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 5: to everything. So it's like, all right, you can go 1770 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 5: to high school, but that's not a bachelor degree, and 1771 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 5: if you get a bachelor's degree, that's not a master's degree, 1772 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 5: and a master's degree is not a doctorate degree. So 1773 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 5: you should always try to further your education because that's 1774 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 5: only that's the only thing that's really going to save 1775 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 5: you in this world. Yes, like your education is the 1776 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 5: only thing that can save you, and that's the thing 1777 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 5: that people really learn or on COVID. And this is why, 1778 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 5: like even our platform rely took off because it's like 1779 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 5: now you're in a space where you understand that you 1780 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 5: are not going to just go to work and think 1781 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,840 Speaker 5: that that's going to help because you can't even get 1782 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 5: a job. You wasn't even able to go to work. 1783 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 5: The government at a certain point stopped giving money. They 1784 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 5: gave you some stimulus, but then that's stopped, so you 1785 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 5: can't rely on government to save you. And the only 1786 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,759 Speaker 5: thing that we really have in this world is our education, 1787 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 5: because that can't be taken away from you exact and 1788 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 5: with your education you could always you can always create 1789 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 5: new opportunities, Like you can give somebody a million dollars 1790 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 5: and they can blow it, and then you can have 1791 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 5: a business and you can make a million dollars and 1792 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,680 Speaker 5: you can you can potentially mess up that bag as well. 1793 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,679 Speaker 5: The difference is that the person that has the business 1794 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 5: has a system in place to actually get a million dollars. 1795 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 5: So his odds of doing that again is tremendously higher 1796 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 5: than somebody that just got a million dollars because they 1797 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 5: were talented or because they won the lottery, because once 1798 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 5: that talent goes away or once the lottery goes way, 1799 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 5: you don't have systems in place to make that happen again. 1800 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 5: The systems in place, it gives you a tremendously greater 1801 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 5: opportunity to make that million dollars again, even if you 1802 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 5: made mistakes. And that's what you see people that go 1803 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 5: bankrupt and then they get it right back. They fall 1804 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,160 Speaker 5: on hard times, they get it right back because they 1805 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 5: have the information and they have the relationships. Those the 1806 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 5: two biggest things. So I applaud for what I applaud 1807 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 5: you for what you're doing. And I encourage anybody that 1808 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,799 Speaker 5: wants to further that education to check out your mentorship 1809 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,560 Speaker 5: because I think that it's something that is extremely beneficial 1810 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 5: and it's helpful, and like I said, it's kind of 1811 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 5: you know, a way of higher education. And we spend 1812 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,840 Speaker 5: one hundred thousand dollars on a liberal arts degree where 1813 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 5: you're just hoping that you could potentially get a job. 1814 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:41,720 Speaker 6: Good luck. 1815 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 5: So it's like that's not in today's in today's day 1816 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 5: and age, that's not really the best way to go 1817 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 5: about it. So you know, what we do with Eyo 1818 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 5: University earn your leasure to the platforms anybody that comes on. 1819 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,919 Speaker 5: We always try to, you know, have a special discount 1820 01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 5: for what we call our earners, so you know, everybody 1821 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 5: usually obliges, and you were you know, kind enough to 1822 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,720 Speaker 5: oblige that, so thank you for that. So what we're 1823 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,800 Speaker 5: going to do is two thousand dollars off I believe 1824 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 5: two thousand dollars off the current price. And but it's 1825 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 5: a special website that we are set up for that. 1826 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,240 Speaker 5: So it's EYL Employed Millionaire dot com because that's you, 1827 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 5: that's your company employed Millionaire. So we just added the 1828 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 5: E y L in front of that real simple EYL 1829 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 5: employed Millionaire dot com and that's you know, storms mentorship 1830 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 5: And like I said, that particular website there's no code Tonne. 1831 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 5: You just go to that website and you get two 1832 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 5: thousand dollars off if you want to, you know, for 1833 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,799 Speaker 5: the information and learn just probably to trust stuff alone. 1834 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 5: It's worth that because like I said, that's extremely valuable thousands. Yeah, yeah, 1835 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 5: that's extremely valuable. But then when you add the real 1836 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 5: estate and the LLC and the weekly calls, you know, 1837 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 5: it's something that if you want to invest in your education, 1838 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 5: I was strong, strongly consider you do that. So once 1839 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 5: again it's e y L Employed Millionaire dot com and 1840 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 5: that is for two thousand dollars off of the mentorship program. 1841 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 5: But before we leave, I want you to just speak 1842 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 5: to people that are currently employed right now trying to 1843 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 5: figure it out. They're working in on the file. They 1844 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 5: know that they want to do more with their life, 1845 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 5: but they just haven't really been able to kind of 1846 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 5: you know, figure that part out yet and they might 1847 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 5: be frustrated. They might not you know, because you was 1848 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 5: once in that position, and Troy, you might even want 1849 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 5: to add to this as well because you was once 1850 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 5: in that position as well. What can you tell the 1851 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 5: people that are in that position right now? 1852 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 7: I'll just add to it because I know, like how 1853 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 7: much passion's about to come out, because we sat in 1854 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 7: these positions, and we sat at the table and we 1855 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 7: had lunch with these people who really didn't understand it 1856 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 7: until you tell them like, this is not this is it? 1857 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,640 Speaker 7: Like you're not going to see me if I if 1858 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 7: I get to this point. And so like even when 1859 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 7: you went to work that last day, they're like, no, 1860 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 7: I know you're coming back, or like, hey, you're gonna 1861 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,560 Speaker 7: leave your pension on the table, or hey, you know 1862 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 7: we're going to get reimbursed for the years that we 1863 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 7: were in the contract. 1864 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 6: And I'm like, keep all that. We got a bigger vision. 1865 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 7: So I want you to talk to those people like 1866 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 7: if this was your colleague who was advertizing with you, 1867 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,720 Speaker 7: or the teachers who were working with me at the time, 1868 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,599 Speaker 7: what's the advice that you want. 1869 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 6: To give them? 1870 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 2: Man, The key thing is I'm able to give advice 1871 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 2: for those who are willing to listen. I always say 1872 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 2: investing is a song that when you start singing it, 1873 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 2: even the people that I know don't know the words, 1874 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:28,639 Speaker 2: will start humming along with you, so I can sing 1875 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 2: the praises of what it takes become an investor. Do 1876 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,600 Speaker 2: this at the job, do this. But if you know 1877 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,640 Speaker 2: you're listening to this right now and you have to 1878 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 2: go to work, key thing is, don't try to sing 1879 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 2: the same song as those people work. You have to 1880 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 2: get yourself in a room of like minded people. Join 1881 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 2: mentorships with people that are like you. Now, you may 1882 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,559 Speaker 2: not know the words, but guess what you're gonna hum 1883 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 2: with those people a couple of weeks. You're gonna start 1884 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 2: learning the lyrics. You're gonna start learning the lingo. You're 1885 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,439 Speaker 2: gonna start learning how to invest, You're gonna start learning 1886 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 2: changes you. But while you're going to work, you must 1887 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 2: always guard your escape route, guard that plan, guard what 1888 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,479 Speaker 2: you're doing, because it's just some people that's not gonna 1889 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,200 Speaker 2: get it. The job is not your enemy. You are 1890 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 2: your own enemy. When we sit down with our job, 1891 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,560 Speaker 2: and we actually signed on to take that job, the 1892 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 2: job had a plan. The plan was to underpay you 1893 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 2: so you can overperform. But what we sat down we 1894 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,840 Speaker 2: sat down and said, great, I'm on board and I'm 1895 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 2: gonna take that. 1896 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,479 Speaker 3: Paycheck and only pay bills. 1897 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,680 Speaker 2: That was the problem. We needed to say, Okay, I'm 1898 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,640 Speaker 2: gonna take that paycheck pay bills, but i'm gonna take 1899 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 2: a portion and i'm gonna leave. If my job would 1900 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 2: have known the plan I had with that money that 1901 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 2: they were giving me, they would have said, don't give 1902 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 2: an overtime, cut his hour short, suspend him, do anything, 1903 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,679 Speaker 2: but let him free. But it's the mind psyche, because 1904 01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 2: think about this. Even when we're young, we wake up, 1905 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 2: we go to school, certain time, we go to lunch, 1906 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,720 Speaker 2: we go back to the classroom, bell goes off, we 1907 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 2: go home, We wake up in the morning. 1908 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,200 Speaker 3: I will always call school work for kids. 1909 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 2: It's prepping them. And then when it's over, now you graduate, 1910 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 2: find a job, wake up in the morning, go have lunch, 1911 01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 2: the bell rings. See it's a mental prep so it's 1912 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,719 Speaker 2: hard to break that. But when you start thinking about 1913 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 2: when you start thinking about your generation and the kids 1914 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 2: that you can't see and what you're leaving from them, 1915 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 2: you really move different than this world. 1916 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 3: I tell you, once I understood that. 1917 01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 2: My life needs to expand beyond what I'm doing now 1918 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 2: and leave something for them. And I was moving like 1919 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,720 Speaker 2: I ain't having no tomorrow. I was moving like I 1920 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 2: didn't have no tomorrow. It's all my fellas out there 1921 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,200 Speaker 2: and all the ladies who get in this information. I 1922 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 2: want you to understand that you must give this information 1923 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 2: to your wife and your children and not hoard it 1924 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 2: for yourself and say I got it all worked out. 1925 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 2: My family straight. Because when you pass away and you 1926 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,639 Speaker 2: don't leave them the keys to the safe, they locked out. 1927 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 2: They don't know about trust, they don't know about what 1928 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 2: life insurance policies. They don't know nothing. Because you said 1929 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:23,439 Speaker 2: to yourself, I got them and they straight. You want 1930 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 2: them to be straight. Sit down with the lawyers, give 1931 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 2: them the information, give them all the coast. 1932 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,840 Speaker 3: Tell them the plan you had and how to keep 1933 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 3: it going. 1934 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 2: That's my message, bro, I know I get carried away. 1935 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,040 Speaker 6: So now it's the audacity of hope. Right. 1936 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,560 Speaker 7: So somebody seeing you in this position, now they know 1937 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 7: what you've been through. I always tell like I used 1938 01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 7: to sit down with my colleagues and I'm like, what's 1939 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 7: the plan? Everybody complains about being here? What's the plan 1940 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 7: to leave? What's the plan to leave? 1941 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:46,760 Speaker 6: Right? 1942 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,799 Speaker 7: And so the year I got tell you was the Arazon. Mmm, 1943 01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 7: So like for most people, they're like, wait, we believe 1944 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,719 Speaker 7: in you. They're putting their trust in you. They're saying 1945 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 7: that this is something that they're investing you long term. 1946 01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,560 Speaker 7: And I'm like, that really isn't a guarantee for me. 1947 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,839 Speaker 7: I'm My mindset was never again it's big on mindset. 1948 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 6: It was. 1949 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,960 Speaker 7: My mindset was never, I'm going to work here twenty 1950 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,680 Speaker 7: five years and retire. My mindset was like, what's the 1951 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,880 Speaker 7: fastest way for me to not be here anymore? How 1952 01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,760 Speaker 7: do I replace myself here? How do I duplicate? Because 1953 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,719 Speaker 7: it was one thing watching my father work for forty 1954 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 7: two years and not being able to guarantee me an 1955 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,200 Speaker 7: interview at his job. So I'd imagine myself working here 1956 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,320 Speaker 7: twenty five years and not allowing my kids even have 1957 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 7: an interview or even be thought of in consideration to 1958 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,719 Speaker 7: have a position there. And it was like, well, I'm 1959 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 7: working for this place. I'm spending more time here than 1960 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 7: with my children. What am I really leaving them? 1961 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:33,679 Speaker 5: Exactly? 1962 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:34,719 Speaker 6: And so it was the mindset. 1963 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 7: It was like, all right, here's the plan, and so 1964 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 7: exactly when it gave me tenure in my mind, I 1965 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:39,760 Speaker 7: was like, I'm not going to be here much longer, 1966 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,360 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But it's the belief, and 1967 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,080 Speaker 7: it's belief too, like you can feel it and the 1968 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 7: passion you speak with. This is a certain level of 1969 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,200 Speaker 7: convention that you have and that everybody has to have 1970 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 7: if they want to make that plan. Like you said, 1971 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,679 Speaker 7: it's not going to be for everybody, but seeing yourself, 1972 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 7: seeing myself, seeing Richard, and plenty of others just like, oh, 1973 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,519 Speaker 7: it can be done. And so that's why we call 1974 01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,800 Speaker 7: this like the financial evolution, because it is we can't measure. 1975 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 7: We don't know what they're gonna do with the information, 1976 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,200 Speaker 7: but hopefully they don't hoard it, they share it and 1977 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:04,760 Speaker 7: they apply it. 1978 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 2: Yep. That man. 1979 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,559 Speaker 5: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen, powerful episode. Thank 1980 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 5: you for that. I'm sure a lot of people will 1981 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,800 Speaker 5: gain a lot of insight, like I said at the 1982 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,960 Speaker 5: beginning of education, but also from a motivation standpoint as well, 1983 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,640 Speaker 5: And they're both needed and then both are very very necessary. 1984 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:22,640 Speaker 5: So appreciate that. 1985 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,200 Speaker 2: Brother. I appreciate you guys having me and it's been 1986 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 2: for me. It felt like forever, and I always knew 1987 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,320 Speaker 2: there was a platform in the stage for me to 1988 01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 2: actually speak. And I'm glad that it's here and it's now, 1989 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,160 Speaker 2: and the timing was right, you know what I mean. 1990 01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,559 Speaker 2: I felt like it was thirty years or something inside 1991 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,679 Speaker 2: of me to be here to speak to the world 1992 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 2: on this level, and now it happened. I want to 1993 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 2: thank you guys from the bottom of my heart. Allowed 1994 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 2: me to speak to the people. 1995 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:50,600 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. 1996 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,559 Speaker 5: How can they follow you? With your social media handle? 1997 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,360 Speaker 2: You can go to im storm Leroy on Instagram. You'll 1998 01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 2: find me there, avoid them fake ones, employed million there. 1999 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,560 Speaker 2: It'll pop up also and you'll find me. 2000 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:04,240 Speaker 5: You have it, Chroy, how can you? 2001 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, Shout to everybody on patreon dot com. Shout out 2002 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,040 Speaker 7: to all of our earners in Eyo University, shout out 2003 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,479 Speaker 7: to the merged team, and shout out to to Storm because, 2004 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 7: like I said, you're the first person who I said 2005 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 7: the seat is waiting for you, and now you're here, 2006 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 7: and so there's a bunch of people out there who 2007 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 7: we probably had the same conversation, but it's happened, and 2008 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,599 Speaker 7: so like you're gonna be the first of manting. 2009 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 6: So I appreciate you for coming and sharing your wealth 2010 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 6: and knowledge. 2011 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 2: Man, Thank you sir. 2012 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, nothing happens before it's time, So I'm happy today was. 2013 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,160 Speaker 5: A day than you have it. 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