WEBVTT - Chuck's Commentary - Trump's Actions Are Impeachable + Ask Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Monday. Welcome to another episode of the Check podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am coming to you. It's a Sunday evening. I

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<v Speaker 1>have had personally a busy weekend. I traveled down to

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<v Speaker 1>go see a college football game Miami survive a wet

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<v Speaker 1>and soggy challenge from the Florida Gators. I will at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the other end of the interview give you

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<v Speaker 1>my towards the end of the podcast, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>not all of you care about college football, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep this up over over over the over

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<v Speaker 1>the season, so we'll do that. At the end, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say my Sunday didn't go so well in

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<v Speaker 1>the football front, thanks to some offensive line problems for

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers, but I will I will save

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<v Speaker 1>that when I always try to tell my son when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the NFL college football, you cannot lose

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<v Speaker 1>a game the NFL. You can survive dumb losses. You

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<v Speaker 1>can serve five dumb losses. That was a dumb loss.

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<v Speaker 1>So we shall see. But ultimately, I'll be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel a tiny bit guilty even referencing football, considering the

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<v Speaker 1>alarming sort of ninety six hours that we and I

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<v Speaker 1>say this because you can claim every week depending on

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<v Speaker 1>where you stand, depending on how concerned you are about

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump presidency and where this is headed. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is one where you know, and this is you know

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<v Speaker 1>again we've and I can get into did we spinal

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<v Speaker 1>tap the Trump presidency back in the first term, So

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can hear anything and everything is always to eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>so nobody's quite sure what's a serious threat to the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution and to the republic and what is just and

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<v Speaker 1>own the lib's angry moment, if you will. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think we need to put this last week in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of context here, because this last week

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<v Speaker 1>has been some of the most direct challenges that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen from Donald Trump on some basic things that previous

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<v Speaker 1>that would have driven impeachments plural one that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the behavior actually that he's doing right now with the

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department was not dissimilar to what happened with Richard Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>who resigned the presidency to avoid being impeached and convicted

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<v Speaker 1>and kicked out of office. You know, look, and this begins,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going to be getting into the entire

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<v Speaker 1>FCC situation where he has ordered it appears he has

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<v Speaker 1>ordered a regulator to just target his media enemies, because

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<v Speaker 1>there really is no other explanation for this, for what

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Carr is doing and the way he publicly celebrates

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<v Speaker 1>because he wants to make the Boss happy, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is systematic going after only those that Donald Trump wants

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<v Speaker 1>him to go after. We now have him upset and

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<v Speaker 1>angry that he can't get the people that came after

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<v Speaker 1>him in over the last five years. Leticia James, the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General of New York, Adam Schiff, who is now

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<v Speaker 1>US Senator, James Comey, the former FBI director. He went

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<v Speaker 1>on a truth social rant, upset that none of these

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<v Speaker 1>people have had charges brought against them. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>fired or a US attorney resigned. We can have a

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<v Speaker 1>debate about that, because the US attorney was doing this

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<v Speaker 1>horrible thing as far as Donald Trump was concerned, he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually following the law to try to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>if there actually was a case to be made against

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<v Speaker 1>Leticia James and this mortgage fraud that the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>was alleging. He didn't have enough evidence to bring charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump didn't care. He wants charges brought anyway, pushes

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<v Speaker 1>this US attorney out, and once the attorney who was

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<v Speaker 1>a former member of his legal team. So that's just there.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind the direct sort of rants, maybe you call

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<v Speaker 1>it an order to Pambondy. I didn't even bring up

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<v Speaker 1>the unconstitutional attacks on Venezuelan ships that I think have

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<v Speaker 1>led indirectly to the Pentagon trying to essentially prevent the

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<v Speaker 1>press corps from reporting from the Pentagon. I will get

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<v Speaker 1>into that also here in a minute. So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>step back here. Oh and then there's the borders are

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<v Speaker 1>who have took a bag of cash in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holman and the Trump Justice Department decided to drop

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<v Speaker 1>the charges because they couldn't prove anything. Though they're not

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<v Speaker 1>they're not somehow denying that Tom Holman took a bag

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<v Speaker 1>of cash under what was apparently a promise to bring

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<v Speaker 1>government contracts to these FBI agents who were posing as

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<v Speaker 1>undercover businessmen. So all of this has happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Again, we have Brendan Carr systematically targeting, going

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<v Speaker 1>after and trying to target media and political enemies of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and the press, even using mafioso language, drawing

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<v Speaker 1>the ire of some conservatives, which I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into a minute. Donald Trump firing or forcing a resignation

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<v Speaker 1>from the US attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>because they wouldn't bring charges against Letitia James, angry that

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<v Speaker 1>his attorney general has yet to bring charges against Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Schiff or James Comy let alone Letitia James. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>this Tom Holman story that, you know, frankly reads like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad you know, a bad update to the old

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<v Speaker 1>famous ab scam story if you ever followed that, it

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<v Speaker 1>got turned into a fun movie. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>what the Pentagon is doing, and the possibility that there's

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<v Speaker 1>extra judicial killings going on without any sort of congressional

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<v Speaker 1>authority to go with it. So here we have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these challenges essentially to the basic in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>what are the basic premises of our constitution? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the question is is any of this going to

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<v Speaker 1>be alarming enough that you start to see Republicans say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is too much? Enough is enough? I might argue,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually are starting to see some of this because

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between term one and term two. Right, we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through this right and Trump one point, oh, writes Pribish,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Pence made sure that administration was stocked with

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<v Speaker 1>professional conservatives. What did I mean by that? Yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>were conservative, but they believed in these crazy things like

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<v Speaker 1>the constitution, the rule of law. You get my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump wasn't going to let that happen. In Trump

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<v Speaker 1>two point oh, he's surrounded by sick of fans, and

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<v Speaker 1>he made sure to put in people who were going

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<v Speaker 1>to personally do him favor. He even put his personal

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<v Speaker 1>attorney as the deputy attorney general, which is just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that in itself, and Todd Blanche that in itself is

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you would use the word praising. But here

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<v Speaker 1>we are, and this is this last ninety six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about as troubling as we can get. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me get into some of this a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go into the what's going on with Letitia James. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been trying just using you know that he has

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<v Speaker 1>this guy that's been combing through the records of high

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<v Speaker 1>profile people's mortgages and trying to come up with finding

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they, you know, somehow committed mortgage fraud

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<v Speaker 1>by declaring more than one residence a primary residence. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been using this mortgage fraud. They Adam Schiff is one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Leticia James is one of them. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole fight about does he have the authority to

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<v Speaker 1>just randomly fire FED governors whose term if he can

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<v Speaker 1>claim that there was wrongdoing, although there's seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>no proof that Lisa Cook, the FED governor, did that.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did appeal to the Supreme Court to see

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<v Speaker 1>if the Supreme Court would okay that firing given what

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<v Speaker 1>we what the Supreme Court said over when he did

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<v Speaker 1>get their permission, essentially to fire folks on the National

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Relations Board, that the FED was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>treated differently as an independent agency versus the NROLB. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but this little gambit of trying to use mortgage fraud

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<v Speaker 1>has been, frankly, is kind of it's not kind of failed,

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<v Speaker 1>it has failed. Right. You have Eric Siebert, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the US Attorney from the Eastern District of Virginia, who

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is frustrated that there were two Democratic senators

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<v Speaker 1>who were okay with that person being the US attorney

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<v Speaker 1>and because this person was going to get bipartisan support,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump thought that was one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>this was proof this person might be a rhino. Both

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Kane and Mark Warner were fine with this. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>the current Attorney General, Pambondi, has actually desperately been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to save this, to save secrets nomination, because they do

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<v Speaker 1>feel as if he's been there a long time, he's

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<v Speaker 1>considered somebody who knows what he's doing, and they've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stop it. Of Course, the last time an

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<v Speaker 1>attorney general got in a president tried to get this

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<v Speaker 1>involved with firing US attorneys, it cost an attorney general

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<v Speaker 1>their job. Alberto Gonzalez. Back during the Bush forty three administration,

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<v Speaker 1>they fired a whole slew of US attorneys essentially very

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<v Speaker 1>upfront as political, you know, sort of political reasons, saying

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to put in their own folks on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But how it was done, how it was conducted, was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty controversial, and it cost the attorney general's job. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, we don't have any kind of uproar, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any kind of bipartisan concern yet, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's possible that's going to happen. Should know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern District of Virginia is one of the more important.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where a lot of the terror counter terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>trials happen. It's you really have to have really good

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<v Speaker 1>people here. They're politically sensitive cases get brought here, get

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<v Speaker 1>brought in this in the Eastern District of Virginia, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the main Justice Department of Justice doesn't like this

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<v Speaker 1>one to be as politicized as other slots for the

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<v Speaker 1>US Attorney So so that's troubling number one. And after

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<v Speaker 1>that rant, then he went on a true social rant,

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<v Speaker 1>really upset that none of these people have been indicted.

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<v Speaker 1>He addresses his Attorney General, Pam Bondi as Pam, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, we can't delay any longer. It's killing our

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<v Speaker 1>reputation and credibility. They impeached me twice, they indicted me

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<v Speaker 1>five times over. Nothing. Justice must be served now. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>he is only targeting the people that he believes brought

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<v Speaker 1>charges against him. He wants charges brought right back against

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<v Speaker 1>them on this front. So it is it is he's

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<v Speaker 1>ranting about this. It's unlikely at this point, right if

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department does end up bringing charges against any

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<v Speaker 1>of these folks, if the court, if it's in a

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate court of law, the prejudicial aspect of Trump's own words,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to likely have all these cases either dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>or juries are just going to not Grand juries won't

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<v Speaker 1>in diet or if they're in jury trials, juries aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to convict because it's blatantly obvious. He's basically already

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to convict these folks. He's just searching for evidence

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get his conviction. The evidence he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>found yet, even people who want to try to help

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<v Speaker 1>him can't find the evidence to do it. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care. The question is what is the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice going to do next in order to appease him?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this going to get uh? Is this going to

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<v Speaker 1>get really ugly? Uh? And is this gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to just bring indictments whether they have

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. I mean, look, they tried to bring

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<v Speaker 1>some indictments back in DC and we saw grand Jury's

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<v Speaker 1>just said no. Normally grand juries will say yes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department. But this Justice Department has been so compromised,

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<v Speaker 1>its credibility so compromised in the public that I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to have a harder and harder time bringing

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<v Speaker 1>basic charges and getting indictments out of grand juries because

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<v Speaker 1>of the reputation that they're starting to get for basically

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<v Speaker 1>just trumping up charges and yes, pun was intended on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Let me get into the Tom Homan situation

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that one is is something else. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've you've paid attention to this.

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<v Speaker 1>So MSNBC broke the story Caro Lenox, former longtime reporter

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<v Speaker 1>basically you know who own owned all of the secret

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<v Speaker 1>service stories over the last decade from the crazy secret

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<v Speaker 1>Service stuff back during the Columbia days. I mean, Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>has been sort of on top of this, and they

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<v Speaker 1>broke this story here here's the basics of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>In September of twenty twenty four, while the president's borders

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<v Speaker 1>are Tom Homan was a private citizen at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>basically just campaigning for Donald Trump. Homan was allegedly recorded

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<v Speaker 1>accepting fifty thousand dollars in cash from undercover FBI agents.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun little detail was in Akva bag, So you know

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be a fun Maybe Cava will do some viral

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<v Speaker 1>marketing based on that. So these agents, this goes back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever if you're real political junkies, you'll know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean when I say abscam. This sort it

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<v Speaker 1>has all reeks of abscam Apparently agents were posing as

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<v Speaker 1>business people or contractors who were seeking immigration related government contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>contingent of course, on Trump winning the twenty twenty four election,

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<v Speaker 1>and they assume that Homan, if they did, would be

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<v Speaker 1>in a position of influence. This meeting was recorded. There

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<v Speaker 1>apparently were also hidden cameras in audio, so there may

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<v Speaker 1>be video of Homan actually accepting this money. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>if this video exists or if it's going to get destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the issue, right, these are various and this

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<v Speaker 1>happened dur an abscam. They couldn't It's tough to bring

0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the charges. Right, you promise you're going to do something

0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:32.640
<v Speaker 1>for this cash. If you cannot prove the quid pro quo, right,

0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you have the cash, but you don't necessarily have anything

0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>else proving that there was a quid pro quo, then

0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it is sort of difficult to bring charges. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice under the Trump administration. This is what's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing about this story and the fifty thousand dollars here

0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.760
<v Speaker 1>is that the Trump administration is not denying that he

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<v Speaker 1>took fifty thousand dollars. By the way, the irs may

0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.680
<v Speaker 1>want to have may want to know a little something

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<v Speaker 1>about that fifty thousand dollars now, so he may he

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<v Speaker 1>may end up having some tax problems. He's not careful

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<v Speaker 1>on this, and if they choose to bring charges, right,

0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the federal government could easily a lot of times with

0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.280
<v Speaker 1>bribery cases, that's what you do. If you don't actually

0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't prove the bribery, you can prove the unreported income.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he has this extra fifty thousand dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>either he has reported and paid taxes what are to

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<v Speaker 1>report the income as, or he didn't and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to owe some taxes, which means he possibly broke the

0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.920
<v Speaker 1>law doing that. But the Department of Justice under the

0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Trump administration decided to close this investigation earlier this calendar year.

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<v Speaker 1>They're totally upfront about it, and they said the state

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<v Speaker 1>of reason is lack of credible evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI director Cash pttel Right, donald Trump's handpicked FBI director,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Deputy Attorney General Todd blanche again, donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>former personal lawyer, who's now in this position of authority

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<v Speaker 1>for some bizarre reason. Why he got confirmed by a

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<v Speaker 1>United States Senate is up to United States senators to

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<v Speaker 1>explain this. They used to have joined statements saying the

0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:07.960
<v Speaker 1>evidence didn't meet the threshold he took the cash. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not denying this, and they're not going to break charges

0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>because he's a friend. Right, we all know this. They're

0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not saying that part of it. If I promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>if this were oh, let's let's do you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say this work somebody that had been working for Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris on her campaign taking a bribery. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they would just drop these charges because the person is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer in a position to agree to contracts. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of the bizarre stated reason for doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something else. Right, And here's the thing. None

0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of us are going to be surprised by this, Right,

0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the amount of and in fact, fifty thousand dollars of

0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.600
<v Speaker 1>small potatoes. Look at all of the pay to play

0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that we've already seen in this administration, whether it's pay

0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to pay to corporations all right, look at his inaugural fund,

0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 1>pay to play and diplomacy cutter and the plane that

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.760
<v Speaker 1>eventually goes to the Trump Library, The shakedown of ABC

0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that gave money to the library, the shakedown of CBS,

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.920
<v Speaker 1>which gave him also some more money to that the

0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:20.199
<v Speaker 1>crypto industry, which has basically been just lavishing all sorts

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:25.119
<v Speaker 1>of investment opportunities on the Trump family just so that

0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.720
<v Speaker 1>as president he will legalize as much of the crypto

0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.720
<v Speaker 1>industry as possible, trying to make a bunch of wealth

0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that we weren't sure was going to exist or not

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:41.720
<v Speaker 1>depending on various regulatory rules. So fifty thousand dollars is

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<v Speaker 1>small potatoes, But sometimes some stories are sticky because of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the details and the details that it's in

0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a kava bag the Mediterranean fast food restaurant. It's one

0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.879
<v Speaker 1>of those that probably means this will stick for a while.

0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:02.440
<v Speaker 1>So see that story that percolated, and again they are

0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:08.359
<v Speaker 1>just wiping it away because they can so uh once

0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:12.280
<v Speaker 1>again undermining the credibility of the rule of law. Right,

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're a friend of the president, the law doesn't

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.120
<v Speaker 1>apply to you. If you're an enemy to the president,

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 1>they're going to look for ways to use the law

0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to punish you. It's pretty simple. We're seeing it now.

0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Tom Holman is caught on tape doing this. They're dropping charges.

0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 1>They don't have enough evidence to go indict Leticia James

0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>for mortgage fraud. He doesn't care. They don't have enough

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.120
<v Speaker 1>evidence to get anything on James Comy, he doesn't care.

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.159
<v Speaker 1>They don't have enough evidence to get anything on Adam Schiff.

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't care. He just wants and you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>actually just wants them to go through a court case.

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<v Speaker 1>He even said that during a gaggle about this he

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<v Speaker 1>was he was asked a little bit about it, and

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.560
<v Speaker 1>he simply said, look, you know, if they're they're innocent,

0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they're innocent, but they need to go through this, right.

0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's really what this is about for him, Right,

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.720
<v Speaker 1>is that in his head, they have to go rule this.

0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And then it brings us to a third story here,

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.119
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a huge challenge, direct challenge to

0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the Constitution. And that is and it's trying to and

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I want people to understand the timeline. So the Pentagon

0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.760
<v Speaker 1>has put into place a new me I'm gonna I'm

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna be generous here and call it a tighter press

0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>access policy. And what it does is that they want

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<v Speaker 1>to require credentialed Pentagon reporters to quote, to get permission

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<v Speaker 1>or sign a pledge before reporting any information that's gathered

0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 1>inside the building, including some unclassified material that would give

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the Defense Department brought authority to revoke passes for violations.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, if you have somebody in the Pentagon that says, hey,

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.480
<v Speaker 1>this something little shady's going on here, and you get

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a leaked document, I help you finish the reporting your story,

0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 1>which is frankly, I had to say, is pre standard

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 1>operating procedure for any reporter. Right, we never get any

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 1>official documents from the government. It's usually some whistle blower

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>or sometimes the staffer that you know. Maybe they want

0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to do the right thing, or maybe they just want

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to get their boss right. I don't know what their

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.879
<v Speaker 1>motive is to leak, but if the information is solid,

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it helps you report a story. What the Pentagon wants

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to do is criminalize that, and if you get caught

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:29.879
<v Speaker 1>doing it, then they want to get you off the

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>premises completely. Now you might ask why now, right, we

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.400
<v Speaker 1>already know that there's been all right, that Pete hagk Set,

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:43.159
<v Speaker 1>the Secretary Defense, has been getting some terrible press and

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<v Speaker 1>I for you know, we have the weird where he

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>shared classified material on a signal, and a lot of

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>that came from leaks, and he started firing people that

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>he thought were leaking. So now instead of trying to

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>fire the leakers, because I think he realized that that

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>was sort of a game of whack a mole that

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>he would never win. Could they just simply get rid

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of the reporters from the Pentagon right, thinking that that

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 1>will somehow prevent people from leaking. Buddy, I could tell

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you, you know, the more you try to stop this, the

0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 1>more it's only going to encourage people to find other

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 1>ways to get these things, other ways to leak these out.

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's a pretty important to understand

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of the timeline of this story, okay, because

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a real reason why this happened when

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 1>it happened. Let me give you this timeline on September seventeenth,

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.959
<v Speaker 1>last week, So this is just so where am I

0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>at here? So last Thursday was September excuse me? Last

0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday was September seventeenth. The Wall Street Journal published the

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 1>phone report. Pentagon lawyers raised concerns over Trump's strikes on

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>alleged drug boats, these Venezuelan drug boats, where the military

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>has been launching strikes against these boats without any congressional

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>authority whatsoever. They claimed some authority having to do loosely

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 1>if because they've somehow designated these posts as narco terrorists,

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and that this falls under the same thing that would

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 1>allow them to go after al Qaeda and things like that.

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>On September nineteenth, the Washington Post reported on legal concerns,

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.679
<v Speaker 1>internal legal concerns about the strikes themselves, Pentagon officials voicing

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>uneasiness that their opinions, their legal opinions about whether these

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>extra judicial killings were legal or not, that they were

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 1>being sidelined. That happened on September nineteenth, And when did

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this story come out? On these new roles, So that

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.479
<v Speaker 1>story came out in the nineteenth, which means the reporting

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>happened on the eighteenth, and lo and behold on the nineteenth.

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>The Pentagon press secretary decides to come up with these

0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>new roles because what were the important sources of these

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.919
<v Speaker 1>stories to both the journal and the Post. It was

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>classified Pentagon information from people that worked at the Pentagon.

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>These reporters did not get permission from there. The person

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>who runs the press shop there, Sean Parnell, And therefore

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to create a situation where that if you

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>somehow used anonymous sources or classified material that was not approved. Again,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know in what part of a free country

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>with a free press that this would be a situation

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that would be acceptable. They suddenly put out these new rules.

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:40.880
<v Speaker 1>So what this is really about is they don't want

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't want there to be stories that there are

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people raising legal questions about whether the

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>president has the authority to just drop bombs on a boat.

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>He decides to tell people in the Caribbean, is we

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>know they're narco terrorists. How do you know, Well, we

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just know what's your evidence. Don't worry about it. Oh

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.679
<v Speaker 1>we saw the evidence once we blew it up. There

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>were floating bales of fentanyl and things like that. Again,

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>this stuff ill legal, This stuff's unconstitutional. He does not

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>have the authority to do this. I promise you that

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>if at some point right somebody is going to have

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a due process, it's going to bring a case before

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:27.160
<v Speaker 1>our court system, it'll be some family member of somebody

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.679
<v Speaker 1>who was killed on one of those both, and I

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're going to have very good legal standing

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>on any of them. So once again, to understand, I

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>just want to make it clear what the legal questions

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>are involving these these bombings of these boats. Is there

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.239
<v Speaker 1>authority under US law or international law? Right now, it

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>is unclear if there's any legal basis for these strikes.

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>The use of legal force in international waters against unarmed

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>or not obviously armed boats carrying drugs rather than weapons

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>has been extraordinarily unusual. It's something we haven't seen. There

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>was no attempt to board these boats, arrest right extradite

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that would have perhaps given a little more clarity as

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<v Speaker 1>to what would be allowed and whatnot under the law

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of war or the doctrine of self defense. There usually

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>needs to be an imminent threat, and there's no clear

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>imminent threat now. I think that the President would say

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the threat of these drugs coming into the United States

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>was going to harm more Americans, and that is the

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>imminent quote imminent threat standard that he believes that this

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>could be met with. But if these strikes are accepted

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>without scrutiny, it could lower the bar for what military

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>force in similar international waters could be done without any

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 1>sort of judicial process, And we already may be seeing

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a huge misuse of this. And where does it end

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>right If there is no court scrutiny over this, no

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>congressional scrutiny of this. We know very little about this.

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 1>There's been very little interest in Congress on trying to

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>get some oversight about what they're doing. So it's it's

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, now Trump is in this, everything

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>always goes back to immigration. So over the weekend, Trump

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>issued a warning to Venezuela on true social and he

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>said that the nation immediately must accept all the prisoners

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and people from mental institutions, which includes the worst of

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the world insane asylums that Venezuelan leadership has forced in

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the United States of America, or you will pay. The

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>price you pay will be incalculable. So basically what he's

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>saying is, hey, I'll stop these bombings if you take

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of these Venezuelans that we're trying to deport,

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>if you want to take a back. Now, by the way,

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>this whole weirdness of Trump, I think it's looking more

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and more likely he just doesn't understand what the word

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>asylum means. These folks were seeking asylum in the United States.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he hears the word asylum and assumes insane asylum.

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And so this is why he has Maybe he does

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it on purpose, but I don't think he has. He

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 1>probably would claim he's doing it on purpose now, but

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he seems to conflate those seeking asylum with people who

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 1>are mentally ill and who quote unquote belonged to an

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>insalem silum. So in his head, all of these folks

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>seeking asylum in the United States were somehow released from

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Venezuelan insane asylums. I know you're thinking that can't be

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the case, and I'm saying it's Donald Trump. The likelihood

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of this being the case is extraordinary high. Nobody out

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>there is no evidence that any of these folks or

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>what he claims has happened in any of these countries.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>This is what Castro did in the late seventies. That

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>now Castro did this. He emptied out his prisons in

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>order to try to in order to try to cause

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>problems for us here in the United States. The so

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>called marri Lee took boat lift. But that's the last

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>time something like that happened. So we've had all these things, right,

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>We've had Trump weaponizing the FCC against the press with

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Carr. We have Trump weaponizing the Department of justice

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>against his political enemies. We have him firing a US

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>attorney because this US attorney won't bring charges just because

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the US attorney was following the law, so he was

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>fired for following the law. We've got a Pentagon that's

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to essentially kick out the press for doing its job,

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>on top of all of the other concerns that we've

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>had about his his inability to follow the Constitution. Now

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>what's been interesting here is on the issue of Brendan

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Carr in free speech. You've had three Republican senators who

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>normally don't come out and criticize him very often, all

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>criticized Car hard on this one, Ted Cruz, Ran Paul

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>and David McCormick, the freshman Republican senator from Pennsylvania. The

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>point is that while I know there are fewer Republicans

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>willing to publicly stand up to Donald Trump right now

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>than there were in the first term, because look at

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>what happened in the first term, and there's no doubt

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he has been on a systematic purge or anybody he

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>thinks might question him. He wants them out, He tries

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to primary them, he tries to pressure them not to

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>run for reelection. He tries to whatever it takes. He

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want anybody with an R next to their name

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>looking like they can be an obstacle to his agenda

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>or his revenge or whatever it is that he's trying

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to do. But he's getting so aggressive now that I

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>do think you're going to find out which conservatives have

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>principles and which don't. Right, we learned who the principled

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>conservatives were during Trump one point zero, Liz Janey, John Fulton,

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Blake, Bob Corker. We can go down the list, right,

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and we're starting to learn those that believe that are

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable abandoning their principles for Donald Trump. They've abandoned some

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of them for some time. You might argue, but Ted

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Cruz is uncomfortable. Ran Paul's uncomfortable. Dave McCormick's uncomfortable. Where's

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just going to keep going? Right? Bill Cassidy doesn't like

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what's happening inside of HHS. So one thing that I

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>would keep a real eye on here And the reason

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing all these stories together and leaning with him

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>because I know in some cases you think, ah, you

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>know you and others with your Trump derangement syndrome. You're

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>always saying, look at what Trump's doing, watch out, this

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>is going to be terrible. But what he really has

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is he's numbed us. Just some things that are happening

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that are really terrible. And if we if we do

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what we're doing here, as you can see, you can't

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>hope that the next time Democrats get put in charge

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're not going to that they're not going to

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>be Democrats who decide, hey, I'm going to be my

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>own Trump. In fact, I had an interesting conversation with

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a frustrated progressive few a few weeks ago who said,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I want my own Trump, who will go in there

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and do this, this and this, and you know, forget

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to play nice, and forget trying to do these

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>things and so. And it was in actually that spirit

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that Ted Cruz came out pretty strong against Brendan Carr

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>by basically saying, this is eventually going to be bad

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for conservatives. Look, as I've said on the media, the

0:31:55.000 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>original sin on this was the the less we have

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to push to get Trump and anybody associated with January

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sixth purged from Twitter and Facebook and polite society. And

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I know that felt good in the moment, but it

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>ended up doing a couple of things that have actually

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>brought us to now a worse moment than where we

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>were four years ago. Right. Moment. Number one that it

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>brought us to is that you have we now have

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a Trump created his own information ecosystem. He has no

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of there's no sort of pushback happening anymore in

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that world. He doesn't have the same conversation we don't.

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>His folks are having a conversation over here. Trump opponents

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>are having a conversation over there. Nobody's talking to each other.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's talking past each other. And literally we have harder

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>silos and more bubbles because of this, not less bubbles.

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>But it was also you know, hey, be careful you push,

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you go down that road, and you're going to get

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, political physics will kick in, right, you will

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>get an equally harsh and opposite reaction. So that's what

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I would be keeping an eye out for. I think

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>what's happening with Tom Homan. I think there are going

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to be some some elected Republicans who think, hey, maybe

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you should release we should know more about this, Maybe

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't be in the White House. Maybe there is

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>something more to this. I think when it comes to

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>what he's trying to do with Pam BONDI in ordering

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>her to get indictments, that you will have others that

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>will start pushing back on that. So I think that

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, in you know, in some ways this over

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the summer and you start to see it now. Donald

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Trump's getting impatient, right. He wants to just he just

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>wants all this, all of his revenge to happen, all

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>of his retribution to happen. He wants every thing his

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>way now, and he seems to be speeding up that process, right,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>He seems to be in a hurry. But I think

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he's getting sloppy about it, and I think in some

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>ways he's starting to He's starting to acquire some enemies

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that I think he's going to regret. He's starting You're

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>starting to see independence bail on him. His numbers are

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>going down, and all of this is just accumulating. Right.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It's no one story is going to take down Donald Trump.

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But in the same sort of reasons why the country

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>moved on from Trump the first time, he's exhausting his supporters.

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>He's making those that are sort of Trump skeptics but

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>decided to join the Trump team. More and more uncomfortable

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to defend him. It gets harder and

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>harder to defend some of these crazy truth social posts

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that he puts out there, these crazy ideas that he

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>throws out there, and he's getting to the point where

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>he may you know, if Republicans decide he's a political liability,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they'll throw him overboard. So far because we live in

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>these polarized times and because our frankly, thanks to jerry

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>mandering and all these things, the primary process matters more

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>so because he has this huge stranglehold over the base

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:21.479
<v Speaker 1>of the Republican party. You're gonna have it is why

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>most elected Republicans stay silent rather than pushing back. But

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.240
<v Speaker 1>boy is he pushing the envelope right. He went Brendan

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Carr went too far, and he got people like Ted

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Cruz and Rand Paul Again, we're not we're not talking

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, Dave McCormick again, not not

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>talking Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins or Don Bacon. Okay,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:58.240
<v Speaker 1>so all of these things should be alarming. A normal

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>legislative brand would look at this regardless of party and

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 1>say hey, we need some deuce, some more oversight. I'm

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>not that pollyannish just to think that's going to happen.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>But he's putting more and more Republicans in uncomfortable positions,

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think you're going to start this is this

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>is why his numbers are eroding, and this is why

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 1>suddenly you've seen a few more Republican voices speaking out

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.480
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<v Speaker 1>Their fee is free unless they win. Well. This coming week,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 1>we are going to have to see here the seventy

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 1>third anniversary of the first ever example of a savior

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>political skin speech that would end up being the model

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of how to get out of controversy political problems. Really

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to this day. On September twenty third, nineteen fifty two,

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and we'll at nine thirty Eastern Times, the nominee for

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the Republicans for Vice President, Richard Nixon, took to the airways.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>He bought time on CBS, NBC, ABC and Mutual Radio simultaneously.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>At the time, it was a cost of seventy five

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for thirty minutes of airtime to essentially explain

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>himself and save his vice presidential candidacy. Let me take

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you through the timeline. So the crisis began on September

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>eighteenth of nineteen fifty two. The New York Post, Yes,

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that New York Post, they ran the first big expose

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>on Richard Nixon's expense fund. What it was is he

0:38:56.120 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>basically had. Today we would call it a hand paign,

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, some sort of super pac fund, but back

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>then it did. None of these ever existed. So we

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>had this. Some people referred to it as a slush fund,

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but it was essentially a fund where political supporters had

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>money to help Nixon with expenses. Maybe it's expenses with

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>politics or expenses for himself. But the way it was,

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>this had never been seen before. The public had never

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>heard of anybody doing this what I'm describing. Today, you'd

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, every politicians does this. But at the time,

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody believed politicians did do this, nor did they believe

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>they should do this. So the New York Post runs

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a story on Nixon's personal expense fund. A whole bunch

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>of papers pile on right. Dwight Eisenhower's the newly minted

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Republican nominee for president. In his inner circle, they weren't

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>big Nixon fans to begin with Eisenhower. I'm gonna give

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you a little backstory here. Eisenhower was very obviously was

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>being recruited by both parties. Right Truman tried to get

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>him to run as a Democrat. He decided run as

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>a Republican. But what that really meant was he was

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a pretty pretty moderate Republican. He did not necessarily and

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he was not necessarily trusted by some of the conservatives

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in the party. Back then, the conservative wing was essentially

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>referred to as the Taft wing of the Republican Party.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Back then, Taft was sort of a keeper of the

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>conservative flame of the Ohio Tafts if you're keeping track

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>at home. So Nixon was seen as a necessity, meaning

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower had to find a conservative running mate in order

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to essentially appease the right flank of the Republican Party.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>So Nixon wasn't popular with Eisenhower in the first place,

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 1>so the second there's a problem with his nomination, they

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>were ready to turn tail. And Nixon knew this because

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower's inner circle was furious about the story, and some

0:40:55.360 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of them immediately wanted him dropped from the ticket. Nixon

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>himself thought it was over. So what happened? So Nixon

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and his friends of ad buyers. The person who gets

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the most credit for this is a guy named Murray Chattener,

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 1>who was his campaign manager for his Senate races back

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty. Roger Kent, another political ally. They thought

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Nixon should bypass the press. Don't do a press conference,

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>go to this use this new medium, television. Nixon made

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 1>wide use of television and his successful nineteen fifty Senate race.

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>By the way, that's been one of my book recommendations.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Nixon and the Pink Lady, go read that book. It's

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a terrific book, and it will also serve as a

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>good primer for the red scare stuff because it was

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Senate races in nineteen fifty was essentially

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the year of the red Scare in Senate races. But

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he used some television and he was one of the

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>first non presidential candidates to use television back in nine

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>teen fifty, so and it was thought of that if

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>he could go on TV, he could bypass the press. Right.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Nixon was looking to sort of talk around the press.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>So they decide to buy thirty minutes of national TV time,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and he goes into the El Capitan Theater in Los Angeles.

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>At the time, it was a TV studio, and he

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>prepared a thirty minute speech details essentially in essence defending

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>himself from this story about what was this slush fund

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>all about. So he decided he would detail his finances

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>down to what his family owned to show transparency. So

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it ended up working right. Some of the more famous

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>lines that come of it, you know, the it's known

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>as the Checkers Speech for this reason because the Checker's

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>moment is Nixon admitted that one of the gifts that

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he got was a dog named Checkers for his daughters.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And they, yes, they did keep the dog, and he

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to give back the dog. And it became

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>this because the girls really loved the dog. And so

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>he has he does that. He talks about, you know,

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the amount of money they spend. You know that Pat

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>his wife doesn't have a fur coat or a mink coat,

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but she does have a respectable Republican cloth coat. And

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I always tell her she'd look good in anything. Then

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>he went on and just do mundane things. We owned

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a nineteen fifty Oldsmobile we have our furniture, and we

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>have a mortgage of twenty thousand dollars on a house

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. And then he goes into the

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>whole thing of Checkers. Let me repeat the line here

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>because it's really good. One other thing I should probably

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>tell you, because if I don't, they will probably be

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>saying this is about me too. We did get something

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of a gift after the election. A man the nineteen

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty cent election. He's referring to a man down in

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Texas heard Pat and the girls on the radio mentioned

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 1>that they'd like to have a dog. And you know

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what it was. It was a little Cocker Spaniel dog

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and a crate that he sent all the way from Texas,

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and our little girl, Trisha, the secure old named it Checkers.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dog.

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And I just want to say this right now that

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what they say about it, we're going to

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>keep it. And then he ends his speech this way,

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm submitting to you, the American people, my side of

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the case. I am proud of the fact that I've

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>got a wife and two wonderful daughters, and I don't

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>intend to let the American people down. But ultimately the

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>decision is not mine, it's yours. Now, the speech worked,

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and why how did they determine that the speech work, Well,

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they got a whole bunch of Back then, people would

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>send it in telegrams to let you know if they

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>liked something. They got four hundred telegrams to one they

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>claimed in favor of keeping Nixon. Even the New York

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Times described it as a masterful use of the new

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>medium of television to appeal over the heads of party

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>leaders directly to the voters. Now here's the irony. Everything

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.439
<v Speaker 1>in this New York Post report was true. Nixon really

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>did have a private expense fund. About eighteen thousand dollars

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>was raised, which is the equivalent of about two hundred

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars today. Donors contributed it to cover his travel

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>political expenses, which were not fully reimbursed by the Senate. Now,

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>this fund wasn't illegal, and Nixon didn't pocket the money

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for personal gain. But the optics were bad because it

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>looked like wealthy donors were secretly bankrolling his career. Because

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>guess what, wealthy donors were always bankrolling his career. Whether

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it was secret, I think is sort of up for debate.

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line was this story was true, and

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>he just put a different spin on it. He didn't

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>deny it existed, but he went on television and he

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>made his appeal without having to deal with a reporter

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:05.800
<v Speaker 1>questioning him. It completely transformed how politicians dealt with controversial things.

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 1>It made television these things now the irony is here.

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>TV save save Nixon in nineteen fifty two, and then

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of course the first televised debates in nineteen sixty would

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>doom Nixon, right, you may you may make note that

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this is the second you know here, I have done

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>this three times in this month of September so far,

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and two of the anecdotes or Nixon, I would I

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>would submit that Nixon is probably in the twentieth century,

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the single most important elected politician we had in the

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. All he whether it was pioneering political consultants

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty being the first to use television to

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>try to go around the press and try to create

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>his own press, try to create his own communications to

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>everything he did as president, which you know, sort of

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>created all sorts. You know, we didn't used to report,

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we had no campaign finance laws, ever, you had no

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>idea who was funding what elections, how much money was

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>being spent. There was no reporting mechanism whatsoever. The boint

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was is that for better or for worse. Nixon was

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of almost like Forrest Gump right in that he

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>was a part or influenced so many aspects, whether it

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>was American foreign policy, how political campaigns are done, are

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>done the Republican Party. And I would submit to you, Look,

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>without Nixon, you wouldn't have Trump. So it is, it is.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>It is quite the lineage anyway, the Checker speech completely

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you know now, of course what what Donald Trump's his

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>version of the Checkers speech just to was Twitter, right,

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Instead of using television to go around people, he used

0:47:55.600 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>social media. So it is. The Checkers Beach is one

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of those. And this week's anniversary of it is a

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>good time. You should go take a look at it.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It's you can find it anywhere on YouTube. It's a

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>good listen, but it's a it was a pioneering moment

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 1>in political communications, and it sort of sort of set

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>us on a path. And look, if it wasn't Nixon,

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody else probably would have tried this and found success.

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>At the time, Nixon just happened to be the first

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>one under threat of having his political career and before

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it really began, and he decided to use television to

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>save it. And the irony is that to save himself

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>from a story that was true. It was not as

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>if this story was not true, all right? So with that,

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>let me take a couple of questions here before I

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>get to my college up tack, ask Chuck. First question

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>comes from Drew a and he writes, Hey, podcast team,

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 1>is there a scenario where mom Donnie's brand? Does socialism

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>actually helped independence like Dan Osborne by giving them a

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>sharper contrast not just against Republicans tied to Trump, but

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:18.240
<v Speaker 1>also against Democrats flirting with socialism and letting them argue

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that both parties are failing in different ways. He writes

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Cocaine's GW Class of twenty ten, I don't think Here's

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>why I don't think it's going to help Osborne in

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty six. Look, I'm going to start off with I'm

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a huge skeptic of whether democratic socialism can succeed, not

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>just not just as a way to convince voters to

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>vote for it, but even as a policy implementing these

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>policies that I'm skeptical that he's going to be able

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>to pull this off. But the point is is that

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>if it's going to end up being a net positive,

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 1>he's gotta I think it would take a it would

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>take a term of Mom Donnie succeeding for it then

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to have, you know, maybe by twenty you know, if

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>he is able to implement some of his policies and

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>they work, somehow, he somehow finds a way to find

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the money to implement these things. And I just that's

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, that's the big question. Where's he going to

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>get this money? I Mean, he always says he wants

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to get it from Wall Street and all this stuff,

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>But realistically, is he going to be able to somehow

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>either get the cooperation of the state legislature to help

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>him do this or the cooperation of the New York

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>City Council. And I'm just skeptical on the implementation front.

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>But even if he is, I don't think there's anything

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote succeed with yet in time to help

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 1>anybody in twenty six. But I do think if you're

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>if I'm look, I think the S word is just

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>impossible to think. I do not think there is going

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 1>to be any way to somehow make that the Democrats

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>can lean into this and and successfully stay in national

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>a competitive national party. And I've gone through this with

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I please take a look at the substack.

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a couple of weeks ago about this. But

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>but the s words socialism in New England right home

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 1>of Bernie Sanders, or even in the Northeast where Mom

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Donnie is, when you think of socialism, you're more likely

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 1>to think of the European socialism down in the Sun

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Belt all right where I grew up in Miami, particularly

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in Florida. And you know, I've made this point quite

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a bit, but this is also I think through throughout

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the Sun Belt, right, we have a lot of first,

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>second and third generation Latino voters, many of them come

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 1>come from countries or have or come from countries who

0:51:55.320 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>are neighbors with countries that we're sort of socialist regimes

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>that either became authoritarian or bordered on authoritarianism. So that

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of Latino voters, they hear the word

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>socialism and they think authoritarianism. First. They don't think government

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>funded policies, right, they don't think universal health care they

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think rent control, and I think that that is

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 1>what makes the branding of this just. I think that hard.

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I might even use the word toxic. Okay, And I

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 1>say it not that I know the specific ideas. Many

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the ideas that Mamdani is calling for are

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>popular when you put them to a poll test. But

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I will submit anytime. You know, there's a lot of

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>things that are popular. If you say, hey, would you

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 1>like the government to do this, the answer is yes,

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Now here's how much it will cost? Will you pay

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>for this? Well, then the answer is no, right on

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 1>those things. So the specific part of your question is

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>just simply timing, right. I think Mom Donnie has to

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>have success for it to translate on the campaign trap

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I do on that front, all right. Next question comes

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>from Max Beck from Philadelphia, who also notes he's proudly

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Delaware born. Hey, Jack, I'm a Duke med student doing

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.919
<v Speaker 1>a research year in pediatric brain tumors, and I often

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 1>listen to the podcast while in the lab. I've long

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.479
<v Speaker 1>been interested in redistricting. I was struck by Senator Roger

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Marshall's full throat of defense of RFK Junior and his

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>spread of medical misinformation. Given that and the impact of

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Trump era tariff's and US AID cuts on Kansas farmers,

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think Democrats should target Marshall c or at

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>least invest now to build competitiveness for the future. His

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>comments as a physician felt especially misleading and troubling. Look,

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I do think, you know, mar I think when you

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>just look at Kansas in general and demographically, it has

0:53:56.640 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>three major it has three you know, decent sized media

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:05.320
<v Speaker 1>markets Topeka, Wichita, and and Kansas City right the Kansas

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>side of Kansas City. When you look at other purple states,

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know that having having at least three media markets

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of that of a certain size is usually a recipe

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>for that. Right, Virginia has Richmond, Norfolk Virginia, you know Norfolk, Virginia, Beach, Richmond,

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:28.720
<v Speaker 1>d c Rono. You know. So North Carolina has multiple

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>so you you do need that. So Kansas has that.

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>They have a couple of fairly decent sized college towns

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:38.280
<v Speaker 1>in Lawrence and Manhattan. Those are pretty big state schools.

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>So and you've had now Democrats, have you had a

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 1>where the Republican brand went too far to the right

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and that seemed to alienate a lot of moderate Republicans

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>who became independent, some of them even switch parties. A

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 1>few of them ended up as Democrats. So I do

0:54:56.360 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 1>think there is a Kansas Democratic, Kansas Democrat brand that's

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.240
<v Speaker 1>similar to like a Kentucky Democrat brand that Andy Bursheer

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>has that I think you could separate yourself from sort

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>of the national brand that you know, there hasn't been

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a Democratic elected US senator since before FDR. Okay, so

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you got to go way back into the way back

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>machine to find evidence of a Democrat winning a US

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Senate seat in Kansas. But when you look at the

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>map and I outline this in a sub stack a

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, it's the same substack where I

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.320
<v Speaker 1>talked about the branding issue with socialism and how troubling

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it was because it was just shrinking the map for

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Democrats to find places to win Senate seats. Right now,

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.720
<v Speaker 1>if they won every single Senate seat in the seven

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:46.280
<v Speaker 1>battleground states plus every blue state, they'd have fifty two macs.

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Right So they've got to put Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Mississippi, Alaska, Ohio.

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>They've got to put these states in play. They've got

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:01.279
<v Speaker 1>to give themselves more potential opportunities that are realistic to

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>win Senate sees. And I think Kansas for everything you

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:11.240
<v Speaker 1>just outlined, I think mostly really due to aid cuts

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and tariffs. I think all I think the three farm

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:16.359
<v Speaker 1>states in general, Nebraska, Iowa, and Kansas. I think all

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>of them have the potential where tariffs could could really bite.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you gotta I'm a little more bullish

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 1>on Kansas than I am Nebraska because Kansas has elected

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:33.319
<v Speaker 1>democratic governors. Right, Cibilia's got two terms or Kelly got

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>two terms. So this isn't again you got to brand

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>yourself as a Kansas Democrat. You got to sort of

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.439
<v Speaker 1>separate yourself a little bit. But I think it's real,

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a huge. In fact, I think

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a This goes to the there is no leader

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Democratic Party. They don't think about party building

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>because this is the state. Arguably they should have been

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>targeting more seriously a few years ago. Right, the evidence

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of Kansas pushing back on going too far to the

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 1>right happened during Sam Brownback's governorship. Well that was nearly

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a decade ago. All right, last question for day, and

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 1>then I'll do my little college football round up. Hey check.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree that local news coverage provides huge value to

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the public in terms of transparency and local politics, and

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 1>that we've lost that in many markets. My question is,

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>if we move beyond the easy answer of money, what

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 1>else do these local news organizations need to be successful?

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Local talent, a means of distribution, the newsroom that supports research,

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>assignments and editorial Is it something else completely? How did

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the current efforts at limiting freedom of speech impact your answer?

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the show and detailed discussions you do, Terrell. Look,

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest thing is that you need a business.

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>You need a revenue stream for local news. Right. What

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 1>local news needs to succeed is to find a replacement

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>for classified advertising. Classified advertising, for a good hundred years

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 1>was the lifeline for local news, right, the ability to

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that that was the consistent revenue you could

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>count on. It was the only place locally to go

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>look for a job, to go buy and sell a

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>use car, to go buy and sell use furniture. You

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>get my drift, right, So losing all of that to

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Craig Right, Craig's List, or Facebook Marketplace or all these

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>other entities, you know, So what local news needs is

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that the second thing, though, that local news needs to

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>succeed is a mindset of service journalism, meaning help people

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>live their lives, and not every news story has to be,

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, an attempt to go win the Pulitzer Prize.

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're just simply helping people find it cheaper chicken.

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>You're helping people find a better way to plant flowers.

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You're helping people find an easier way to get to work.

0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 1>You're helping people find a better way to enroll their

0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>kids in youth sports. So I think that you know,

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, when we talk about the crisis of local news,

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't exist. And everybody immediately like zooms in

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>on journalism for journalists. And the thing is is that

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 1>we have a trust issue first, So I view it

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.160
<v Speaker 1>as an opportunity to rebuild trust with media in general.

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you focus on being public servants and helping

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 1>people live their lives. Number one, I hope you have

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>journalists that want to live in the community and stay

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in the community. I'm not saying, you know, I don't

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>want people trapped in jobs, but I do think that

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 1>that makes for a healthier and a more robust local

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>information ecosystem if there is a consistent group of people

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>who stay and want to do it right rather than

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just people coming in using it as a stepping stone

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and leaving. But the biggest thing that we need to

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 1>find is a revenue stream. Nonprofit's not going to be

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the answer on this, But if I were to say

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<v Speaker 1>what am I looking for, it's almost a mindset change.

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<v Speaker 1>And we need to have journalism schools emphasize service journalism

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<v Speaker 1>as well as accountability journalism. Not all journalism is woodward

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and burnstay. Some journalism is simply helping people figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to navigate the community, whatever that means on any

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<v Speaker 1>given day. And it's those little things that build the

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<v Speaker 1>trust so that then they will believe you when you

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<v Speaker 1>tell them the mayor's corrupt, or they will believe you

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<v Speaker 1>when you tell them that the borders are is taking

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<v Speaker 1>a bag of cash from Kava and promising government contracts

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<v Speaker 1>in return. See how I turned it all the way around.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So with that, appreciate the questions this week

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<v Speaker 1>a little so as I teas stepped top I was

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<v Speaker 1>at I was in Miami for the Miami Florida game,

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<v Speaker 1>my second University of Miami game. This year I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the Notre Dame game made it down for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was raining the whole time, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is why you saw. I was a little frustrated that

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<v Speaker 1>this was the worst offensive performance that Miami's had so

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<v Speaker 1>far this year. Part of it, I think was the

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<v Speaker 1>wet ball, but part of it was it was really

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<v Speaker 1>good Florida Gator's defense. The fact is, while Carson Beck

1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>had all the time in the world when he needed it,

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't find open receivers. Eventually they figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>if you just did the little the little flares to

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs, that those were open and they could

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<v Speaker 1>do some real damage. Uh and both Mark Fletcher and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and Marty Brown did a ton of damage there.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's you know, it's funny when you're a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can nit pick the crap out of

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<v Speaker 1>your team. You know, everybody is throwing the accolades right

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<v Speaker 1>now at my beloved Miami Hurricanes, and maybe they're the

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<v Speaker 1>best team in the country, maybe this, maybe that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there going, boy did they play a terrible game.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the upside. Over the last ten years, when

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<v Speaker 1>they played a game like that, they usually lost those

1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>games like that was a game that was sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>when it's thirteen to nothing. I said to my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, this is not good. We should be up twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>we should be up three or four scores, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we're not means one score. And that's suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>it's a one score game. And sure enough, right from

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<v Speaker 1>the about five minutes left to go, it's a one

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<v Speaker 1>score game. And I know, and every Miami fan was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the same thing. I was thinking, like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing's about to happen again. Miami's going to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to blow this. They're going to Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Tech itt up. They're gonna Syracuse it up like what

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<v Speaker 1>happened last year and then they did. Number One. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a beast of a defense that is fantastic. They

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<v Speaker 1>have an amazing offensive line. When they need to just

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<v Speaker 1>get two or three yards, they get two or three yards.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, their offensive line so good. I'm hoping my

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers can borrow some of these offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>that the Nursery of Mimmy have because they clearly have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. They couldn't do anything to stop the to

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<v Speaker 1>move the Cleveland defensive line on Sunday and that, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm relieved that Miami got a victory there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm relieved they have a week off because in

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks it is Miami Florida State. And yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>game's in Tallahassee, and yes I'll be going to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes we're a divided household on that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm coming back on separate planes or not.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see how the game ends up, right. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a super close game where a rematch is inevitable

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<v Speaker 1>between Miami and Florida State, or is it not close

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<v Speaker 1>for one of us and there's some bitterness that takes

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<v Speaker 1>over and then we'll want to find a new seat

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane. I kid, I think on that. A

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<v Speaker 1>few other things from the weekend that I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>of notes. Look, we're really screwing up college football rivalries.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, Miami and Florida aren't gonna play where they're

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<v Speaker 1>not scheduled to play, and they may never play in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season for some time with these new you know,

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<v Speaker 1>demands at the SEC schedule nine conference games. Florida already

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<v Speaker 1>has a mandatory game with Florida State. The state legislature

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<v Speaker 1>mandates that game as their tenth Power four conference. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not They're not going to be enthusiastic about adding Miami

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<v Speaker 1>to that schedule. Steve Spurrier dropped us the first time

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<v Speaker 1>when he took over because he was trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's schedule easier so that they could they could they

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<v Speaker 1>could have a better record. The TCUSMU rivalry for the

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Skillet. They may have played their last version of

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<v Speaker 1>that rivalry for at least five years, maybe longer because

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<v Speaker 1>ones in the Big twelve, ones in the ACC and

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Right, all these conferences are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>they got it there. They're so big, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>make time to actually play the actual teams in your conference.

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<v Speaker 1>So having these out of conference rivalries are just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be harder and harder to keep up. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the weekend had the Apple Cup in

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and the Civil War in Oregon. Yeah, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>what they used to be because all four of those

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<v Speaker 1>teams used to be in the same conference. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, those games used to always be in October

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<v Speaker 1>or November, and they'd be rainy and they'd be cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd be filled with intrigue because there's always at

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<v Speaker 1>least one of those four teams, if not two, that

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<v Speaker 1>were in the conversation for the So it's a shame

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<v Speaker 1>that we're really sort of the best part of college

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<v Speaker 1>football are some of these traditions and the silly trophies,

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<v Speaker 1>the oaken bucket or whatever the hell you come up

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<v Speaker 1>with as a trophy game. But it's kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it's kind of fun, and it's terrible to

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<v Speaker 1>see that happen, to see that go away. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say as much as that, I'm I go hot

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<v Speaker 1>and cold on some of the antics that take place

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<v Speaker 1>now on sports television. I know that my University Miami

1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:06.920
<v Speaker 1>senior had a blast at college game Day and the university.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I gotta thank you ESPN for forgiving

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<v Speaker 1>the university a heck of a showcase. The place look great,

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<v Speaker 1>the patio look great. And you know, here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>give McAfee a lot of credit for you because he

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<v Speaker 1>does this with all the game day you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know some McAfee's an acquired taste for some people. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not always you know, I go back, I go hot

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<v Speaker 1>and cold on him. But boy does he know how

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<v Speaker 1>to just throw himself into the college student, you know

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff. I don't know how much longer he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that, Like in his own way, he might be

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<v Speaker 1>the new Courso right instead of putting on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mascot heeads, he's going to be doing you know, crazy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like doing high die you know, jumps off a

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<v Speaker 1>high die board like he did at Miami or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's interesting is is how sticky that is for

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<v Speaker 1>the students that are there. So some of us old

1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:08.680
<v Speaker 1>fogies may roll our eyes at it, but they're making

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<v Speaker 1>Bud ESPN is making real connections there on that front.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, I'm glad Miami's off, But wow, what a

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<v Speaker 1>college football card we have, right, it's Penn State in Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>it's George and Alabama. Yes, there's some other games and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to it then, but we're going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about that. And then later this week will

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<v Speaker 1>there be more head coach firings. There are two one

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<v Speaker 1>and three teams, actually there'll be three, I think schools,

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<v Speaker 1>big time schools where you're going to hear loud conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about what is happening and what's their future. Daboswiney at

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson Yes, they're one and three. How's that working out?

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Napier at Florida, he's one and three, And of

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<v Speaker 1>course Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State are they one and three? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>They may be over. It's the thing that all of

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<v Speaker 1>the those coaches have to worry about. It's the weird

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<v Speaker 1>rules of college football. Now. You can play four games

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<v Speaker 1>and then claim a red shirt and essentially get your

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<v Speaker 1>eligibility back. That that is, if you're a Florida or

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson and you've got a one in three team and

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<v Speaker 1>you thought you were going to be a contender, you

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<v Speaker 1>may have players that say, you know what, this coach

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<v Speaker 1>may be out of here. I'm not putting my future

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. I can make money in an extra

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<v Speaker 1>year of eligibility. I'm in a red shirt. I want out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll enter the portal. They can't switch teams this season,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can actually enter the portal now and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>stop playing and claim a red shirt if they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>claimed a red shirt already. And that is the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of quitting issue that I think both Clemson and Florida

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<v Speaker 1>have to be on the lookout for. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be an underrated story to follow as

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<v Speaker 1>the week goes on. All right, so there's my little

1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:04.800
<v Speaker 1>college fotball update with my little personal touch. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was raining the whole time, and that you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's here's the best part. It poured for three

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<v Speaker 1>hours straight and sixty five thousand people still show them

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<v Speaker 1>at hard Rock. So for those of you who think

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Miami are fair weather fans, the weather

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't very fair and we showed up anyway. So with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I will see in about forty eight hours, so we

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<v Speaker 1>upload again.