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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. Welcome to another episode of the Check podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am coming to you. It's a Sunday evening. I

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Speaker 1: have had personally a busy weekend. I traveled down to

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Speaker 1: go see a college football game Miami survive a wet

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Speaker 1: and soggy challenge from the Florida Gators. I will at

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Speaker 1: the at the other end of the interview give you

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Speaker 1: my towards the end of the podcast, because I know

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Speaker 1: not all of you care about college football, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to keep this up over over over the over

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Speaker 1: the season, so we'll do that. At the end, I

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Speaker 1: have to say my Sunday didn't go so well in

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Speaker 1: the football front, thanks to some offensive line problems for

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, but I will I will save

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Speaker 1: that when I always try to tell my son when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the NFL college football, you cannot lose

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Speaker 1: a game the NFL. You can survive dumb losses. You

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Speaker 1: can serve five dumb losses. That was a dumb loss.

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Speaker 1: So we shall see. But ultimately, I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 1: feel a tiny bit guilty even referencing football, considering the

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Speaker 1: alarming sort of ninety six hours that we and I

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Speaker 1: say this because you can claim every week depending on

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Speaker 1: where you stand, depending on how concerned you are about

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Speaker 1: the Trump presidency and where this is headed. But this

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Speaker 1: is one where you know, and this is you know

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Speaker 1: again we've and I can get into did we spinal

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Speaker 1: tap the Trump presidency back in the first term, So

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Speaker 1: nobody can hear anything and everything is always to eleven,

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Speaker 1: so nobody's quite sure what's a serious threat to the

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Speaker 1: Constitution and to the republic and what is just and

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Speaker 1: own the lib's angry moment, if you will. But I

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Speaker 1: do think we need to put this last week in

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Speaker 1: a little bit of context here, because this last week

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Speaker 1: has been some of the most direct challenges that we've

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Speaker 1: seen from Donald Trump on some basic things that previous

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Speaker 1: that would have driven impeachments plural one that you know,

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Speaker 1: the behavior actually that he's doing right now with the

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Speaker 1: Justice Department was not dissimilar to what happened with Richard Nixon,

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Speaker 1: who resigned the presidency to avoid being impeached and convicted

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Speaker 1: and kicked out of office. You know, look, and this begins,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to be getting into the entire

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Speaker 1: FCC situation where he has ordered it appears he has

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Speaker 1: ordered a regulator to just target his media enemies, because

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Speaker 1: there really is no other explanation for this, for what

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr is doing and the way he publicly celebrates

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Speaker 1: because he wants to make the Boss happy, but he

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Speaker 1: is systematic going after only those that Donald Trump wants

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Speaker 1: him to go after. We now have him upset and

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Speaker 1: angry that he can't get the people that came after

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Speaker 1: him in over the last five years. Leticia James, the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of New York, Adam Schiff, who is now

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Speaker 1: US Senator, James Comey, the former FBI director. He went

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Speaker 1: on a truth social rant, upset that none of these

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Speaker 1: people have had charges brought against them. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: fired or a US attorney resigned. We can have a

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Speaker 1: horrible thing as far as Donald Trump was concerned, he

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Speaker 1: was actually following the law to try to figure out

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Speaker 1: if there actually was a case to be made against

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Speaker 1: Leticia James and this mortgage fraud that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: was alleging. He didn't have enough evidence to bring charges.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump didn't care. He wants charges brought anyway, pushes

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Speaker 1: Never mind the direct sort of rants, maybe you call

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Speaker 1: it an order to Pambondy. I didn't even bring up

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Speaker 1: the unconstitutional attacks on Venezuelan ships that I think have

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Speaker 1: who have took a bag of cash in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Tom Holman and the Trump Justice Department decided to drop

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Speaker 1: they're not somehow denying that Tom Holman took a bag

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the press, even using mafioso language, drawing

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Speaker 1: famous ab scam story if you ever followed that, it

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Speaker 1: what the Pentagon is doing, and the possibility that there's

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Speaker 1: authority to go with it. So here we have all

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Speaker 1: of these challenges essentially to the basic in some ways

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Speaker 1: this is too much? Enough is enough? I might argue,

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Speaker 1: you actually are starting to see some of this because

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Speaker 1: the difference between term one and term two. Right, we've

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Speaker 1: gone through this right and Trump one point, oh, writes Pribish,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Pence made sure that administration was stocked with

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Speaker 1: professional conservatives. What did I mean by that? Yes, they

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Speaker 1: the constitution, the rule of law. You get my point.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump wasn't going to let that happen. In Trump

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Speaker 1: two point oh, he's surrounded by sick of fans, and

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Speaker 1: he made sure to put in people who were going

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Speaker 1: to personally do him favor. He even put his personal

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Speaker 1: that in itself, and Todd Blanche that in itself is

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Speaker 1: I guess you would use the word praising. But here

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Speaker 1: we are, and this is this last ninety six hours.

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Speaker 1: It is about as troubling as we can get. So

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Speaker 1: Let's go into the what's going on with Letitia James. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's been trying just using you know that he has

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Speaker 1: been using this mortgage fraud. They Adam Schiff is one

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Speaker 1: But he did appeal to the Supreme Court to see

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Speaker 1: it has failed. Right. You have Eric Siebert, who is

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is frustrated that there were two Democratic senators

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Speaker 1: Tim Kane and Mark Warner were fine with this. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: the current Attorney General, Pambondi, has actually desperately been trying

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Speaker 1: Eastern District of Virginia is one of the more important.

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Speaker 1: This is where a lot of the terror counter terrorism

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Speaker 1: He addresses his Attorney General, Pam Bondi as Pam, and

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Speaker 1: five times over. Nothing. Justice must be served now. Now again,

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department. But this Justice Department has been so compromised,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've you've paid attention to this.

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Speaker 1: So MSNBC broke the story Caro Lenox, former longtime reporter

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Speaker 1: broke this story here here's the basics of the story.

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Speaker 1: In September of twenty twenty four, while the president's borders

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Speaker 1: are Tom Homan was a private citizen at that time,

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Speaker 1: the United States of America, or you will pay. The

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Speaker 1: price you pay will be incalculable. So basically what he's

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Speaker 1: saying is, hey, I'll stop these bombings if you take

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Speaker 1: a bunch of these Venezuelans that we're trying to deport,

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Speaker 1: if you want to take a back. Now, by the way,

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Speaker 1: this whole weirdness of Trump, I think it's looking more

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Speaker 1: and more likely he just doesn't understand what the word

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Speaker 1: asylum means. These folks were seeking asylum in the United States.

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Speaker 1: I think he hears the word asylum and assumes insane asylum.

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Speaker 1: And so this is why he has Maybe he does

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Speaker 1: it on purpose, but I don't think he has. He

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Speaker 1: probably would claim he's doing it on purpose now, but

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Speaker 1: he seems to conflate those seeking asylum with people who

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Speaker 1: are mentally ill and who quote unquote belonged to an

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Speaker 1: insalem silum. So in his head, all of these folks

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Speaker 1: seeking asylum in the United States were somehow released from

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan insane asylums. I know you're thinking that can't be

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Speaker 1: the case, and I'm saying it's Donald Trump. The likelihood

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Speaker 1: of this being the case is extraordinary high. Nobody out

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Speaker 1: there is no evidence that any of these folks or

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Speaker 1: what he claims has happened in any of these countries.

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Speaker 1: This is what Castro did in the late seventies. That

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Speaker 1: now Castro did this. He emptied out his prisons in

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Speaker 1: order to try to in order to try to cause

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Speaker 1: problems for us here in the United States. The so

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Speaker 1: called marri Lee took boat lift. But that's the last

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Speaker 1: time something like that happened. So we've had all these things, right,

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Speaker 1: We've had Trump weaponizing the FCC against the press with

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr. We have Trump weaponizing the Department of justice

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Speaker 1: against his political enemies. We have him firing a US

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Speaker 1: attorney because this US attorney won't bring charges just because

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Speaker 1: the US attorney was following the law, so he was

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Speaker 1: fired for following the law. We've got a Pentagon that's

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Speaker 1: trying to essentially kick out the press for doing its job,

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Speaker 1: on top of all of the other concerns that we've

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Speaker 1: had about his his inability to follow the Constitution. Now

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Speaker 1: what's been interesting here is on the issue of Brendan

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Speaker 1: Carr in free speech. You've had three Republican senators who

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Speaker 1: normally don't come out and criticize him very often, all

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Speaker 1: criticized Car hard on this one, Ted Cruz, Ran Paul

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Speaker 1: and David McCormick, the freshman Republican senator from Pennsylvania. The

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Speaker 1: point is that while I know there are fewer Republicans

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Speaker 1: willing to publicly stand up to Donald Trump right now

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Speaker 1: than there were in the first term, because look at

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Speaker 1: what happened in the first term, and there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: he has been on a systematic purge or anybody he

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Speaker 1: thinks might question him. He wants them out, He tries

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Speaker 1: to primary them, he tries to pressure them not to

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Speaker 1: run for reelection. He tries to whatever it takes. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't want anybody with an R next to their name

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Speaker 1: looking like they can be an obstacle to his agenda

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Speaker 1: or his revenge or whatever it is that he's trying

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Speaker 1: to do. But he's getting so aggressive now that I

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Speaker 1: do think you're going to find out which conservatives have

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Speaker 1: principles and which don't. Right, we learned who the principled

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Speaker 1: conservatives were during Trump one point zero, Liz Janey, John Fulton,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Blake, Bob Corker. We can go down the list, right,

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Speaker 1: and we're starting to learn those that believe that are

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable abandoning their principles for Donald Trump. They've abandoned some

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Speaker 1: of them for some time. You might argue, but Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruz is uncomfortable. Ran Paul's uncomfortable. Dave McCormick's uncomfortable. Where's

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Speaker 1: just going to keep going? Right? Bill Cassidy doesn't like

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Speaker 1: what's happening inside of HHS. So one thing that I

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Speaker 1: would keep a real eye on here And the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing all these stories together and leaning with him

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Speaker 1: because I know in some cases you think, ah, you

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Speaker 1: know you and others with your Trump derangement syndrome. You're

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Speaker 1: always saying, look at what Trump's doing, watch out, this

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Speaker 1: is going to be terrible. But what he really has

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Speaker 1: is he's numbed us. Just some things that are happening

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Speaker 1: that are really terrible. And if we if we do

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Speaker 1: what we're doing here, as you can see, you can't

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Speaker 1: hope that the next time Democrats get put in charge

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Speaker 1: that they're not going to that they're not going to

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Speaker 1: be Democrats who decide, hey, I'm going to be my

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Speaker 1: own Trump. In fact, I had an interesting conversation with

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Speaker 1: a frustrated progressive few a few weeks ago who said,

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Speaker 1: I want my own Trump, who will go in there

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Speaker 1: and do this, this and this, and you know, forget

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Speaker 1: trying to play nice, and forget trying to do these

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Speaker 1: things and so. And it was in actually that spirit

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Speaker 1: that Ted Cruz came out pretty strong against Brendan Carr

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Speaker 1: by basically saying, this is eventually going to be bad

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Speaker 1: for conservatives. Look, as I've said on the media, the

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Speaker 1: original sin on this was the the less we have

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Speaker 1: to push to get Trump and anybody associated with January

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Speaker 1: sixth purged from Twitter and Facebook and polite society. And

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Speaker 1: I know that felt good in the moment, but it

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Speaker 1: ended up doing a couple of things that have actually

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Speaker 1: brought us to now a worse moment than where we

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Speaker 1: were four years ago. Right. Moment. Number one that it

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Speaker 1: brought us to is that you have we now have

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Speaker 1: a Trump created his own information ecosystem. He has no

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Speaker 1: sort of there's no sort of pushback happening anymore in

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Speaker 1: that world. He doesn't have the same conversation we don't.

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Speaker 1: His folks are having a conversation over here. Trump opponents

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Speaker 1: are having a conversation over there. Nobody's talking to each other.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking past each other. And literally we have harder

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Speaker 1: silos and more bubbles because of this, not less bubbles.

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Speaker 1: But it was also you know, hey, be careful you push,

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Speaker 1: you go down that road, and you're going to get

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Speaker 1: you know, political physics will kick in, right, you will

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Speaker 1: get an equally harsh and opposite reaction. So that's what

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Speaker 1: I would be keeping an eye out for. I think

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Speaker 1: what's happening with Tom Homan. I think there are going

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Speaker 1: to be some some elected Republicans who think, hey, maybe

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Speaker 1: you should release we should know more about this, Maybe

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't be in the White House. Maybe there is

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Speaker 1: something more to this. I think when it comes to

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Speaker 1: what he's trying to do with Pam BONDI in ordering

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Speaker 1: her to get indictments, that you will have others that

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Speaker 1: will start pushing back on that. So I think that

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Speaker 1: you know, in you know, in some ways this over

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Speaker 1: the summer and you start to see it now. Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's getting impatient, right. He wants to just he just

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Speaker 1: wants all this, all of his revenge to happen, all

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Speaker 1: of his retribution to happen. He wants every thing his

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Speaker 1: way now, and he seems to be speeding up that process, right,

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Speaker 1: He seems to be in a hurry. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's getting sloppy about it, and I think in some

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Speaker 1: ways he's starting to He's starting to acquire some enemies

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Speaker 1: that I think he's going to regret. He's starting You're

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Speaker 1: starting to see independence bail on him. His numbers are

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Speaker 1: going down, and all of this is just accumulating. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's no one story is going to take down Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: But in the same sort of reasons why the country

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Speaker 1: moved on from Trump the first time, he's exhausting his supporters.

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Speaker 1: He's making those that are sort of Trump skeptics but

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Speaker 1: decided to join the Trump team. More and more uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: figuring out how to defend him. It gets harder and

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Speaker 1: harder to defend some of these crazy truth social posts

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Speaker 1: that he puts out there, these crazy ideas that he

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Speaker 1: throws out there, and he's getting to the point where

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Speaker 1: he may you know, if Republicans decide he's a political liability,

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Speaker 1: they'll throw him overboard. So far because we live in

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Speaker 1: these polarized times and because our frankly, thanks to jerry

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Speaker 1: mandering and all these things, the primary process matters more

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Speaker 1: so because he has this huge stranglehold over the base

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Speaker 1: of the Republican party. You're gonna have it is why

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Speaker 1: most elected Republicans stay silent rather than pushing back. But

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Speaker 1: boy is he pushing the envelope right. He went Brendan

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Speaker 1: Carr went too far, and he got people like Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruz and Rand Paul Again, we're not we're not talking

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Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, Dave McCormick again, not not

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Speaker 1: talking Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins or Don Bacon. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so all of these things should be alarming. A normal

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Speaker 1: legislative brand would look at this regardless of party and

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Speaker 1: say hey, we need some deuce, some more oversight. I'm

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Speaker 1: But he's putting more and more Republicans in uncomfortable positions,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're going to start this is this

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Speaker 1: third anniversary of the first ever example of a savior

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Speaker 1: political skin speech that would end up being the model

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Speaker 1: to this day. On September twenty third, nineteen fifty two,

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Speaker 1: and we'll at nine thirty Eastern Times, the nominee for

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Speaker 1: the Republicans for Vice President, Richard Nixon, took to the airways.

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Speaker 1: He bought time on CBS, NBC, ABC and Mutual Radio simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: you through the timeline. So the crisis began on September

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Speaker 1: eighteenth of nineteen fifty two. The New York Post, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that New York Post, they ran the first big expose

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Speaker 1: on Richard Nixon's expense fund. What it was is he

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Speaker 1: you know, some sort of super pac fund, but back

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Speaker 1: then it did. None of these ever existed. So we

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Speaker 1: but it was essentially a fund where political supporters had

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Speaker 1: money to help Nixon with expenses. Maybe it's expenses with

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Speaker 1: heard of anybody doing this what I'm describing. Today, you'd

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Speaker 1: a story on Nixon's personal expense fund. A whole bunch

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Speaker 1: Republican nominee for president. In his inner circle, they weren't

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Speaker 1: big Nixon fans to begin with Eisenhower. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: you a little backstory here. Eisenhower was very obviously was

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Speaker 1: being recruited by both parties. Right Truman tried to get

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Speaker 1: Back then, Taft was sort of a keeper of the

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Speaker 1: conservative flame of the Ohio Tafts if you're keeping track

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Speaker 1: at home. So Nixon was seen as a necessity, meaning

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Speaker 1: Eisenhower had to find a conservative running mate in order

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Speaker 1: to essentially appease the right flank of the Republican Party.

648
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Speaker 1: So Nixon wasn't popular with Eisenhower in the first place,

649
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Speaker 1: so the second there's a problem with his nomination, they

650
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Speaker 1: were ready to turn tail. And Nixon knew this because

651
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: Eisenhower's inner circle was furious about the story, and some

652
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Speaker 1: of them immediately wanted him dropped from the ticket. Nixon

653
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: himself thought it was over. So what happened? So Nixon

654
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Speaker 1: and his friends of ad buyers. The person who gets

655
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Speaker 1: the most credit for this is a guy named Murray Chattener,

656
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Speaker 1: who was his campaign manager for his Senate races back

657
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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty. Roger Kent, another political ally. They thought

658
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Speaker 1: Nixon should bypass the press. Don't do a press conference,

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Speaker 1: go to this use this new medium, television. Nixon made

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Speaker 1: wide use of television and his successful nineteen fifty Senate race.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that's been one of my book recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Nixon and the Pink Lady, go read that book. It's

663
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Speaker 1: a terrific book, and it will also serve as a

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Speaker 1: good primer for the red scare stuff because it was

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Speaker 1: a lot of Senate races in nineteen fifty was essentially

666
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Speaker 1: the year of the red Scare in Senate races. But

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Speaker 1: he used some television and he was one of the

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Speaker 1: first non presidential candidates to use television back in nine

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Speaker 1: teen fifty, so and it was thought of that if

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Speaker 1: he could go on TV, he could bypass the press. Right.

671
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: Nixon was looking to sort of talk around the press.

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Speaker 1: So they decide to buy thirty minutes of national TV time,

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Speaker 1: and he goes into the El Capitan Theater in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: At the time, it was a TV studio, and he

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Speaker 1: prepared a thirty minute speech details essentially in essence defending

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Speaker 1: himself from this story about what was this slush fund

677
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Speaker 1: all about. So he decided he would detail his finances

678
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Speaker 1: down to what his family owned to show transparency. So

679
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: it ended up working right. Some of the more famous

680
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Speaker 1: lines that come of it, you know, the it's known

681
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Speaker 1: as the Checkers Speech for this reason because the Checker's

682
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Speaker 1: moment is Nixon admitted that one of the gifts that

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Speaker 1: he got was a dog named Checkers for his daughters.

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Speaker 1: And they, yes, they did keep the dog, and he

685
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to give back the dog. And it became

686
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Speaker 1: this because the girls really loved the dog. And so

687
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Speaker 1: he has he does that. He talks about, you know,

688
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Speaker 1: the amount of money they spend. You know that Pat

689
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: his wife doesn't have a fur coat or a mink coat,

690
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Speaker 1: but she does have a respectable Republican cloth coat. And

691
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I always tell her she'd look good in anything. Then

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Speaker 1: he went on and just do mundane things. We owned

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Speaker 1: a nineteen fifty Oldsmobile we have our furniture, and we

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Speaker 1: have a mortgage of twenty thousand dollars on a house

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And then he goes into the

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Speaker 1: whole thing of Checkers. Let me repeat the line here

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Speaker 1: because it's really good. One other thing I should probably

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Speaker 1: tell you, because if I don't, they will probably be

699
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: saying this is about me too. We did get something

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Speaker 1: of a gift after the election. A man the nineteen

701
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Speaker 1: fifty cent election. He's referring to a man down in

702
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Speaker 1: Texas heard Pat and the girls on the radio mentioned

703
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Speaker 1: that they'd like to have a dog. And you know

704
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Speaker 1: what it was. It was a little Cocker Spaniel dog

705
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Speaker 1: and a crate that he sent all the way from Texas,

706
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Speaker 1: and our little girl, Trisha, the secure old named it Checkers.

707
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Speaker 1: And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dog.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say this right now that

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Speaker 1: regardless of what they say about it, we're going to

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Speaker 1: keep it. And then he ends his speech this way,

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Speaker 1: I'm submitting to you, the American people, my side of

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Speaker 1: the case. I am proud of the fact that I've

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Speaker 1: got a wife and two wonderful daughters, and I don't

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Speaker 1: intend to let the American people down. But ultimately the

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Speaker 1: decision is not mine, it's yours. Now, the speech worked,

716
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Speaker 1: and why how did they determine that the speech work, Well,

717
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: they got a whole bunch of Back then, people would

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Speaker 1: send it in telegrams to let you know if they

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00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: liked something. They got four hundred telegrams to one they

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Speaker 1: claimed in favor of keeping Nixon. Even the New York

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Speaker 1: Times described it as a masterful use of the new

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Speaker 1: medium of television to appeal over the heads of party

723
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Speaker 1: leaders directly to the voters. Now here's the irony. Everything

724
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: in this New York Post report was true. Nixon really

725
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Speaker 1: did have a private expense fund. About eighteen thousand dollars

726
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: was raised, which is the equivalent of about two hundred

727
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars today. Donors contributed it to cover his travel

728
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: political expenses, which were not fully reimbursed by the Senate. Now,

729
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: this fund wasn't illegal, and Nixon didn't pocket the money

730
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Speaker 1: for personal gain. But the optics were bad because it

731
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: looked like wealthy donors were secretly bankrolling his career. Because

732
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Speaker 1: guess what, wealthy donors were always bankrolling his career. Whether

733
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Speaker 1: it was secret, I think is sort of up for debate.

734
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Speaker 1: But the bottom line was this story was true, and

735
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Speaker 1: he just put a different spin on it. He didn't

736
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Speaker 1: deny it existed, but he went on television and he

737
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: made his appeal without having to deal with a reporter

738
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Speaker 1: questioning him. It completely transformed how politicians dealt with controversial things.

739
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: It made television these things now the irony is here.

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00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: TV save save Nixon in nineteen fifty two, and then

741
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Speaker 1: of course the first televised debates in nineteen sixty would

742
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Speaker 1: doom Nixon, right, you may you may make note that

743
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Speaker 1: this is the second you know here, I have done

744
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Speaker 1: this three times in this month of September so far,

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Speaker 1: and two of the anecdotes or Nixon, I would I

746
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Speaker 1: would submit that Nixon is probably in the twentieth century,

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Speaker 1: the single most important elected politician we had in the

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Speaker 1: twentieth century. All he whether it was pioneering political consultants

749
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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty being the first to use television to

750
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Speaker 1: try to go around the press and try to create

751
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: his own press, try to create his own communications to

752
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: everything he did as president, which you know, sort of

753
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: created all sorts. You know, we didn't used to report,

754
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: we had no campaign finance laws, ever, you had no

755
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: idea who was funding what elections, how much money was

756
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: being spent. There was no reporting mechanism whatsoever. The boint

757
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: was is that for better or for worse. Nixon was

758
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: sort of almost like Forrest Gump right in that he

759
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: was a part or influenced so many aspects, whether it

760
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: was American foreign policy, how political campaigns are done, are

761
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: done the Republican Party. And I would submit to you, Look,

762
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: without Nixon, you wouldn't have Trump. So it is, it is.

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00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: It is quite the lineage anyway, the Checker speech completely

764
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Speaker 1: you know now, of course what what Donald Trump's his

765
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: version of the Checkers speech just to was Twitter, right,

766
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Instead of using television to go around people, he used

767
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: social media. So it is. The Checkers Beach is one

768
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: of those. And this week's anniversary of it is a

769
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: good time. You should go take a look at it.

770
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: It's you can find it anywhere on YouTube. It's a

771
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: good listen, but it's a it was a pioneering moment

772
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: in political communications, and it sort of sort of set

773
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: us on a path. And look, if it wasn't Nixon,

774
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: somebody else probably would have tried this and found success.

775
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: At the time, Nixon just happened to be the first

776
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Speaker 1: one under threat of having his political career and before

777
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: it really began, and he decided to use television to

778
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: save it. And the irony is that to save himself

779
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: from a story that was true. It was not as

780
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: if this story was not true, all right? So with that,

781
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: let me take a couple of questions here before I

782
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: get to my college up tack, ask Chuck. First question

783
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: comes from Drew a and he writes, Hey, podcast team,

784
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: is there a scenario where mom Donnie's brand? Does socialism

785
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: actually helped independence like Dan Osborne by giving them a

786
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: sharper contrast not just against Republicans tied to Trump, but

787
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: also against Democrats flirting with socialism and letting them argue

788
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: that both parties are failing in different ways. He writes

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Speaker 1: Cocaine's GW Class of twenty ten, I don't think Here's

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Speaker 1: why I don't think it's going to help Osborne in

791
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Speaker 1: twenty six. Look, I'm going to start off with I'm

792
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: a huge skeptic of whether democratic socialism can succeed, not

793
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Speaker 1: just not just as a way to convince voters to

794
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: vote for it, but even as a policy implementing these

795
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: policies that I'm skeptical that he's going to be able

796
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: to pull this off. But the point is is that

797
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: if it's going to end up being a net positive,

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00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: he's gotta I think it would take a it would

799
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Speaker 1: take a term of Mom Donnie succeeding for it then

800
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Speaker 1: to have, you know, maybe by twenty you know, if

801
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Speaker 1: he is able to implement some of his policies and

802
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: they work, somehow, he somehow finds a way to find

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Speaker 1: the money to implement these things. And I just that's

804
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: to me, that's the big question. Where's he going to

805
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: get this money? I Mean, he always says he wants

806
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: to get it from Wall Street and all this stuff,

807
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: But realistically, is he going to be able to somehow

808
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Speaker 1: either get the cooperation of the state legislature to help

809
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Speaker 1: him do this or the cooperation of the New York

810
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Speaker 1: City Council. And I'm just skeptical on the implementation front.

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Speaker 1: But even if he is, I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 1: to quote unquote succeed with yet in time to help

813
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Speaker 1: anybody in twenty six. But I do think if you're

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Speaker 1: if I'm look, I think the S word is just

815
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: impossible to think. I do not think there is going

816
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: to be any way to somehow make that the Democrats

817
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: can lean into this and and successfully stay in national

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00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: a competitive national party. And I've gone through this with

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00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, I please take a look at the substack.

820
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: I wrote a couple of weeks ago about this. But

821
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: but the s words socialism in New England right home

822
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Speaker 1: of Bernie Sanders, or even in the Northeast where Mom

823
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: Donnie is, when you think of socialism, you're more likely

824
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: to think of the European socialism down in the Sun

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00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: Belt all right where I grew up in Miami, particularly

826
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Speaker 1: in Florida. And you know, I've made this point quite

827
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Speaker 1: a bit, but this is also I think through throughout

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Speaker 1: the Sun Belt, right, we have a lot of first,

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Speaker 1: second and third generation Latino voters, many of them come

830
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: come from countries or have or come from countries who

831
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Speaker 1: are neighbors with countries that we're sort of socialist regimes

832
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Speaker 1: that either became authoritarian or bordered on authoritarianism. So that

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Speaker 1: to a lot of Latino voters, they hear the word

834
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Speaker 1: socialism and they think authoritarianism. First. They don't think government

835
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: funded policies, right, they don't think universal health care they

836
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Speaker 1: don't think rent control, and I think that that is

837
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Speaker 1: what makes the branding of this just. I think that hard.

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Speaker 1: I might even use the word toxic. Okay, And I

839
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: say it not that I know the specific ideas. Many

840
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Speaker 1: some of the ideas that Mamdani is calling for are

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00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: popular when you put them to a poll test. But

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Speaker 1: I will submit anytime. You know, there's a lot of

843
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: things that are popular. If you say, hey, would you

844
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: like the government to do this, the answer is yes,

845
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Now here's how much it will cost? Will you pay

846
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: for this? Well, then the answer is no, right on

847
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: those things. So the specific part of your question is

848
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: just simply timing, right. I think Mom Donnie has to

849
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: have success for it to translate on the campaign trap

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00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: I do on that front, all right. Next question comes

851
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: from Max Beck from Philadelphia, who also notes he's proudly

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Speaker 1: Delaware born. Hey, Jack, I'm a Duke med student doing

853
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: a research year in pediatric brain tumors, and I often

854
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast while in the lab. I've long

855
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: been interested in redistricting. I was struck by Senator Roger

856
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Speaker 1: Marshall's full throat of defense of RFK Junior and his

857
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Speaker 1: spread of medical misinformation. Given that and the impact of

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Speaker 1: Trump era tariff's and US AID cuts on Kansas farmers,

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Speaker 1: do you think Democrats should target Marshall c or at

860
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: least invest now to build competitiveness for the future. His

861
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: comments as a physician felt especially misleading and troubling. Look,

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Speaker 1: I do think, you know, mar I think when you

863
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Speaker 1: just look at Kansas in general and demographically, it has

864
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Speaker 1: three major it has three you know, decent sized media

865
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Speaker 1: markets Topeka, Wichita, and and Kansas City right the Kansas

866
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: side of Kansas City. When you look at other purple states,

867
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Speaker 1: you know that having having at least three media markets

868
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: of that of a certain size is usually a recipe

869
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: for that. Right, Virginia has Richmond, Norfolk Virginia, you know Norfolk, Virginia, Beach, Richmond,

870
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Speaker 1: d c Rono. You know. So North Carolina has multiple

871
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Speaker 1: so you you do need that. So Kansas has that.

872
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Speaker 1: They have a couple of fairly decent sized college towns

873
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Speaker 1: in Lawrence and Manhattan. Those are pretty big state schools.

874
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: So and you've had now Democrats, have you had a

875
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: where the Republican brand went too far to the right

876
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: and that seemed to alienate a lot of moderate Republicans

877
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: who became independent, some of them even switch parties. A

878
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: few of them ended up as Democrats. So I do

879
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: think there is a Kansas Democratic, Kansas Democrat brand that's

880
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: similar to like a Kentucky Democrat brand that Andy Bursheer

881
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: has that I think you could separate yourself from sort

882
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: of the national brand that you know, there hasn't been

883
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: a Democratic elected US senator since before FDR. Okay, so

884
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Speaker 1: you got to go way back into the way back

885
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: machine to find evidence of a Democrat winning a US

886
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: Senate seat in Kansas. But when you look at the

887
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: map and I outline this in a sub stack a

888
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, it's the same substack where I

889
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: talked about the branding issue with socialism and how troubling

890
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: it was because it was just shrinking the map for

891
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Democrats to find places to win Senate seats. Right now,

892
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: if they won every single Senate seat in the seven

893
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: battleground states plus every blue state, they'd have fifty two macs.

894
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: Right So they've got to put Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Mississippi, Alaska, Ohio.

895
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: They've got to put these states in play. They've got

896
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Speaker 1: to give themselves more potential opportunities that are realistic to

897
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: win Senate sees. And I think Kansas for everything you

898
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: just outlined, I think mostly really due to aid cuts

899
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: and tariffs. I think all I think the three farm

900
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: states in general, Nebraska, Iowa, and Kansas. I think all

901
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: of them have the potential where tariffs could could really bite.

902
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: But you know, you gotta I'm a little more bullish

903
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: on Kansas than I am Nebraska because Kansas has elected

904
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: democratic governors. Right, Cibilia's got two terms or Kelly got

905
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: two terms. So this isn't again you got to brand

906
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: yourself as a Kansas Democrat. You got to sort of

907
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: separate yourself a little bit. But I think it's real,

908
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's a huge. In fact, I think

909
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: it's a This goes to the there is no leader

910
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. They don't think about party building

911
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: because this is the state. Arguably they should have been

912
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: targeting more seriously a few years ago. Right, the evidence

913
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: of Kansas pushing back on going too far to the

914
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: right happened during Sam Brownback's governorship. Well that was nearly

915
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: a decade ago. All right, last question for day, and

916
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: then I'll do my little college football round up. Hey check.

917
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: I agree that local news coverage provides huge value to

918
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: the public in terms of transparency and local politics, and

919
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: that we've lost that in many markets. My question is,

920
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: if we move beyond the easy answer of money, what

921
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: else do these local news organizations need to be successful?

922
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: Local talent, a means of distribution, the newsroom that supports research,

923
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: assignments and editorial Is it something else completely? How did

924
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: the current efforts at limiting freedom of speech impact your answer?

925
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for the show and detailed discussions you do, Terrell. Look,

926
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is that you need a business.

927
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: You need a revenue stream for local news. Right. What

928
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: local news needs to succeed is to find a replacement

929
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: for classified advertising. Classified advertising, for a good hundred years

930
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: was the lifeline for local news, right, the ability to

931
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: you know that that was the consistent revenue you could

932
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: count on. It was the only place locally to go

933
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: look for a job, to go buy and sell a

934
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Speaker 1: use car, to go buy and sell use furniture. You

935
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: get my drift, right, So losing all of that to

936
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Craig Right, Craig's List, or Facebook Marketplace or all these

937
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: other entities, you know, So what local news needs is

938
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: that the second thing, though, that local news needs to

939
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: succeed is a mindset of service journalism, meaning help people

940
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: live their lives, and not every news story has to be,

941
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, an attempt to go win the Pulitzer Prize.

942
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're just simply helping people find it cheaper chicken.

943
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: You're helping people find a better way to plant flowers.

944
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: You're helping people find an easier way to get to work.

945
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: You're helping people find a better way to enroll their

946
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: kids in youth sports. So I think that you know,

947
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: right now, when we talk about the crisis of local news,

948
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: it just doesn't exist. And everybody immediately like zooms in

949
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: on journalism for journalists. And the thing is is that

950
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: we have a trust issue first, So I view it

951
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to rebuild trust with media in general.

952
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: And if you focus on being public servants and helping

953
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: people live their lives. Number one, I hope you have

954
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: journalists that want to live in the community and stay

955
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: in the community. I'm not saying, you know, I don't

956
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: want people trapped in jobs, but I do think that

957
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: that makes for a healthier and a more robust local

958
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: information ecosystem if there is a consistent group of people

959
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: who stay and want to do it right rather than

960
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: just people coming in using it as a stepping stone

961
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: and leaving. But the biggest thing that we need to

962
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: find is a revenue stream. Nonprofit's not going to be

963
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: the answer on this, But if I were to say

964
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: what am I looking for, it's almost a mindset change.

965
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: And we need to have journalism schools emphasize service journalism

966
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: as well as accountability journalism. Not all journalism is woodward

967
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: and burnstay. Some journalism is simply helping people figure out

968
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: how to navigate the community, whatever that means on any

969
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: given day. And it's those little things that build the

970
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: trust so that then they will believe you when you

971
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: tell them the mayor's corrupt, or they will believe you

972
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: when you tell them that the borders are is taking

973
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: a bag of cash from Kava and promising government contracts

974
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: in return. See how I turned it all the way around.

975
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: All right, So with that, appreciate the questions this week

976
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: a little so as I teas stepped top I was

977
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: at I was in Miami for the Miami Florida game,

978
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: my second University of Miami game. This year I was

979
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: at the Notre Dame game made it down for that.

980
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: It was raining the whole time, and I think that

981
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: is why you saw. I was a little frustrated that

982
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: this was the worst offensive performance that Miami's had so

983
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: far this year. Part of it, I think was the

984
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: wet ball, but part of it was it was really

985
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: good Florida Gator's defense. The fact is, while Carson Beck

986
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: had all the time in the world when he needed it,

987
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: he couldn't find open receivers. Eventually they figured out that

988
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: if you just did the little the little flares to

989
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: the running backs, that those were open and they could

990
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: do some real damage. Uh and both Mark Fletcher and

991
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 1: uh and Marty Brown did a ton of damage there.

992
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: So there's you know, it's funny when you're a fan,

993
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: you know you can nit pick the crap out of

994
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: your team. You know, everybody is throwing the accolades right

995
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: now at my beloved Miami Hurricanes, and maybe they're the

996
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: best team in the country, maybe this, maybe that, And

997
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going, boy did they play a terrible game.

998
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: But here's the upside. Over the last ten years, when

999
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 1: they played a game like that, they usually lost those

1000
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: games like that was a game that was sitting there

1001
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: when it's thirteen to nothing. I said to my daughter,

1002
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: I said, this is not good. We should be up twenty,

1003
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: we should be up three or four scores, and the

1004
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: fact that we're not means one score. And that's suddenly

1005
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: it's a one score game. And sure enough, right from

1006
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: the about five minutes left to go, it's a one

1007
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: score game. And I know, and every Miami fan was

1008
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. I was thinking, like, oh no,

1009
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: the same thing's about to happen again. Miami's going to

1010
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: figure out how to blow this. They're going to Georgia

1011
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Tech itt up. They're gonna Syracuse it up like what

1012
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: happened last year and then they did. Number One. They

1013
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: have a beast of a defense that is fantastic. They

1014
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: have an amazing offensive line. When they need to just

1015
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: get two or three yards, they get two or three yards.

1016
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: In fact, their offensive line so good. I'm hoping my

1017
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers can borrow some of these offensive linemen

1018
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: that the Nursery of Mimmy have because they clearly have

1019
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: a problem. They couldn't do anything to stop the to

1020
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: move the Cleveland defensive line on Sunday and that, so

1021
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: I am. I'm relieved that Miami got a victory there,

1022
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: and I'm relieved they have a week off because in

1023
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: two weeks it is Miami Florida State. And yes, that

1024
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: game's in Tallahassee, and yes I'll be going to that,

1025
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: and yes we're a divided household on that. So I

1026
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm coming back on separate planes or not.

1027
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: We will see how the game ends up, right. Is

1028
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: it a super close game where a rematch is inevitable

1029
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: between Miami and Florida State, or is it not close

1030
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: for one of us and there's some bitterness that takes

1031
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: over and then we'll want to find a new seat

1032
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: on the plane. I kid, I think on that. A

1033
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: few other things from the weekend that I thought was

1034
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: of notes. Look, we're really screwing up college football rivalries.

1035
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: For instance, Miami and Florida aren't gonna play where they're

1036
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: not scheduled to play, and they may never play in

1037
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: the regular season for some time with these new you know,

1038
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: demands at the SEC schedule nine conference games. Florida already

1039
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: has a mandatory game with Florida State. The state legislature

1040
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: mandates that game as their tenth Power four conference. They're

1041
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: not They're not going to be enthusiastic about adding Miami

1042
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: to that schedule. Steve Spurrier dropped us the first time

1043
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: when he took over because he was trying to make

1044
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: Florida's schedule easier so that they could they could they

1045
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: could have a better record. The TCUSMU rivalry for the

1046
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: Iron Skillet. They may have played their last version of

1047
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: that rivalry for at least five years, maybe longer because

1048
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: ones in the Big twelve, ones in the ACC and

1049
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: the same thing. Right, all these conferences are trying to

1050
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: they got it there. They're so big, you've got to

1051
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: make time to actually play the actual teams in your conference.

1052
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: So having these out of conference rivalries are just going

1053
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: to be harder and harder to keep up. I mean

1054
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: the fact that the weekend had the Apple Cup in

1055
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: Washington and the Civil War in Oregon. Yeah, they're not

1056
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: what they used to be because all four of those

1057
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: teams used to be in the same conference. And by

1058
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: the way, those games used to always be in October

1059
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: or November, and they'd be rainy and they'd be cold,

1060
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: and they'd be filled with intrigue because there's always at

1061
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: least one of those four teams, if not two, that

1062
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: were in the conversation for the So it's a shame

1063
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: that we're really sort of the best part of college

1064
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: football are some of these traditions and the silly trophies,

1065
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: the oaken bucket or whatever the hell you come up

1066
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: with as a trophy game. But it's kind of it's

1067
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of fun, and it's terrible to

1068
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: see that happen, to see that go away. I have

1069
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: to say as much as that, I'm I go hot

1070
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: and cold on some of the antics that take place

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Speaker 1: now on sports television. I know that my University Miami

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Speaker 1: senior had a blast at college game Day and the university.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I gotta thank you ESPN for forgiving

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Speaker 1: the university a heck of a showcase. The place look great,

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Speaker 1: the patio look great. And you know, here's what I

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Speaker 1: give McAfee a lot of credit for you because he

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Speaker 1: does this with all the game day you know, I

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Speaker 1: know some McAfee's an acquired taste for some people. He's

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Speaker 1: not always you know, I go back, I go hot

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Speaker 1: and cold on him. But boy does he know how

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Speaker 1: to just throw himself into the college student, you know

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff. I don't know how much longer he'll

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Speaker 1: have that, Like in his own way, he might be

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Speaker 1: the new Courso right instead of putting on you know,

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Speaker 1: mascot heeads, he's going to be doing you know, crazy

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Speaker 1: stuff like doing high die you know, jumps off a

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Speaker 1: high die board like he did at Miami or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But what's interesting is is how sticky that is for

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Speaker 1: the students that are there. So some of us old

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Speaker 1: fogies may roll our eyes at it, but they're making

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Speaker 1: Bud ESPN is making real connections there on that front.

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Speaker 1: Next week, I'm glad Miami's off, But wow, what a

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Speaker 1: college football card we have, right, it's Penn State in Oregon,

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Speaker 1: it's George and Alabama. Yes, there's some other games and

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Speaker 1: I'll get to it then, but we're going to learn

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Speaker 1: a lot about that. And then later this week will

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Speaker 1: there be more head coach firings. There are two one

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Speaker 1: and three teams, actually there'll be three, I think schools,

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Speaker 1: big time schools where you're going to hear loud conversations

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Speaker 1: about what is happening and what's their future. Daboswiney at

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Speaker 1: Clemson Yes, they're one and three. How's that working out?

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Speaker 1: Billy Napier at Florida, he's one and three, And of

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Speaker 1: course Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State are they one and three? Two?

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Speaker 1: They may be over. It's the thing that all of

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Speaker 1: the those coaches have to worry about. It's the weird

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Speaker 1: rules of college football. Now. You can play four games

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Speaker 1: and then claim a red shirt and essentially get your

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Speaker 1: eligibility back. That that is, if you're a Florida or

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Speaker 1: Clemson and you've got a one in three team and

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Speaker 1: you thought you were going to be a contender, you

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Speaker 1: may have players that say, you know what, this coach

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Speaker 1: may be out of here. I'm not putting my future

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Speaker 1: on the line. I can make money in an extra

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Speaker 1: year of eligibility. I'm in a red shirt. I want out,

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Speaker 1: and they'll enter the portal. They can't switch teams this season,

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Speaker 1: but they can actually enter the portal now and essentially

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Speaker 1: stop playing and claim a red shirt if they haven't

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Speaker 1: claimed a red shirt already. And that is the sort

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Speaker 1: of quitting issue that I think both Clemson and Florida

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Speaker 1: have to be on the lookout for. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's going to be an underrated story to follow as

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Speaker 1: the week goes on. All right, so there's my little

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Speaker 1: college fotball update with my little personal touch. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: was raining the whole time, and that you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's here's the best part. It poured for three

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Speaker 1: hours straight and sixty five thousand people still show them

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Speaker 1: at hard Rock. So for those of you who think

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Speaker 1: the University of Miami are fair weather fans, the weather

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Speaker 1: wasn't very fair and we showed up anyway. So with that,

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Speaker 1: I will see in about forty eight hours, so we

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Speaker 1: upload again.