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Speaker 3: talk about the upcoming March Madness and get his quick thoughts.

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Speaker 2: But we have so much else to get to.

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Speaker 3: Including what I believe will be another very provocative duel

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Speaker 3: midnight hour subject matter when we also take your calls

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Speaker 3: because it involves around statements and events and breaking news

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Speaker 3: that involved two big name football luminaries, whether you liked

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Speaker 3: them or not. And I'm going to title this first part.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it Redemption is Good for the soul?

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Speaker 3: What do I mean by that? And by the way,

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Speaker 3: as you know, NFL free agency didn't officially start till Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: but my goodness, it was almost done before it started.

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Speaker 3: That just goes to show you that this NFL free

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Speaker 3: agency feast is full proof there is no off season

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Speaker 3: for the National Football League. Russell Wilson is a Steeler.

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Speaker 3: Here are the details, and by the way, I want

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Speaker 3: to remind you the Steelers won ten games last year.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll do even better with Russell Wilson. But

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Speaker 3: these are things will debate later. The Broncos oh Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson thirty nine million dollars guaranteed for twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: and that salary is subject to offset language. But his

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Speaker 3: deal with the Steelers will be for the veteran minimum,

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Speaker 3: which means the Steelers get the services of Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: for one point two million. This is a twelve year

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Speaker 3: veteran and you talk about a cost effective way to

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Speaker 3: address their uncertain quarterback situation. That leaves Denver paying thirty

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Speaker 3: eight million dollars or thereabouts to compete against Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: should those two ever get on the field together, or

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Speaker 3: they're still competing in a manner of speaking, because they're

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Speaker 3: both in the AFC and there are a limited number

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Speaker 3: of playoff spots about ten days ago, Russell Wilson becoming

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Speaker 3: a Steeler seemed like a long shot at best. Steelers

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Speaker 3: have a general manager named al Mark Kahn, and he

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Speaker 3: said he had quote full faith in Kittie Pickett. Sure

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Speaker 3: he's still in Pennsylvania, but now he's with the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: And he said the Steelers wanted to resign Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: And as the cliche goes, well a lot can happen

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Speaker 3: in a week. So Russell Wilson, now, I believe, is

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Speaker 3: the perceived number one starter. I do not think you

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Speaker 3: would have gone to Pittsburgh unless they were winking nod don.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty much going to be our starter. So that

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Speaker 3: shows the Steelers never really had much faith in Pickt

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Speaker 3: and Rudolph. I'm guessing he'll end up with another team

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. We'll see what happens there. The

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Speaker 3: question is, what the hell happened in such a shorter

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Speaker 3: period of time. The Steelers have to think that Wilson

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Speaker 3: gets them closer to a championship where they went. They

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Speaker 3: brought him in. No matter how you frame it, and

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Speaker 3: you can call it a quarterback competition, they'll do that.

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Speaker 3: There'll be a competition of source. But come on, of

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Speaker 3: all the bad things about said about Russell Wilson, let's

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Speaker 3: not forget he's a nine time pro bowler, He's a

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Speaker 3: former Super Bowl champion. He did have options. I told

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Speaker 3: you there would be a market for Russell Wilson. There

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be for Justin Fields. Story for a different day,

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Speaker 3: cheap price tag. I mean through twenty six touchdown passes

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Speaker 3: last year. Look last season, Wilson threw for almost thirty

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Speaker 3: one hundred yards, only eight picks against twenty six touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: a ninety eight passer rating. And they did it in

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Speaker 3: fifteen games. The last two he was told to go home.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton just didn't like him. It happens, and that'll

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Speaker 3: be part of our Midnight Hour discussion. Who's gonna get

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Speaker 3: the last laugh, Russell Wilson or Sean Payton. We had

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Speaker 3: maybe our most spirited Midnight Hour conversation six seven weeks

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Speaker 3: ago when Russell Wilson was basically very unceremoniously kicked to

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Speaker 3: the curb. There's one way to say goodbye to somebody,

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Speaker 3: a very unceremonious way. And I've this and I've heard that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Carl Mecklenburg comments. I've heard the Pete

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Okay, I'm not mixed up.

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Speaker 3: There's an air of inauthenticity around Wissell Wilson. I've never

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Speaker 3: met him, but I got a funny feeling. Man, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna help Pittsburgh. We'll see who gets the last laugh.

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Speaker 3: You don't look Nathaniel Hackett. It didn't work with Russell

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Speaker 3: So I guess it begs the question part. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: how does Russell Wilson fit in Pittsburgh now? Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 3: said he would promise competition for Pickett at the end

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Speaker 3: of the season's news conference. And even though Russell Wilson's

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Speaker 3: price tag is the veteran minimum, he did not come

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Speaker 3: be the number two, or to make Kenny Pickett better,

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Speaker 3: as I said, that ship has saled Kemmy's in all

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Speaker 3: things being equal, he'd rather probably be in Philadelphia now,

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Speaker 3: and he is because his future was not great in

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Speaker 3: how well he might have developed there, So it's not

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Speaker 3: necessarily Tomlin's style to annoy the starter six months before

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Speaker 3: the season. His name's Ben Roethlisberger. But come on, if

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson has to be the odds on favorite, he'll

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Speaker 3: he'll get the job, he'll start, and we're gonna find

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Speaker 3: out exactly how much does Russell Wilson truly have left

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Speaker 3: in the tank. He may not be the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: to ask him to be either. Pittsburgh's defense last year

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Speaker 3: finished sixth best in scoring, and basically, somehow Pittsburgh got

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Speaker 3: an offense it's couldn't. They couldn't score the Women's prison

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Speaker 3: with a fist full of fifties. So now you bring

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Speaker 3: and Arthur Smith, who will run. There's no question he'll

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Speaker 3: install a run heavy offense because that takes pressure off

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. Wilson's going to be in position to do

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Speaker 3: what he does best. Minimized turnovers, hit a few deep balls,

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Speaker 3: maximized George pickens. He's got some big play potential and

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Oh yeah, a little play action. From a

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Speaker 3: this move makes sense and it's a good fit. Arthur

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Speaker 3: heavy on ourpos play action passes. That all facilitates Russell

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Speaker 3: honestly will suit Russell Wilson's skills as well as any

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Speaker 3: see the Russell Wilson show. We're not gonna hear about

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Speaker 3: doubt he's going to bring a bit of that goofiness there.

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Speaker 3: He can't help it, and his personality is you know,

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Speaker 3: Mike Mike, Mike Tomlin is a natural born leader, who's straightforward,

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Speaker 3: who's blunt, who gets it. Russell Wilson is gonna fit

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Speaker 3: better with Tomlin. He's gonna fit better than he did

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Speaker 3: with Nathaniel Hackett. He's gonna fit better than he did

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Speaker 3: better with well with Arthur Smith than any of the

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Speaker 3: previous guys we mentioned. That will be the most important

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Speaker 3: aspect of this whole thing from the jump. Now, the

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Speaker 3: But I honestly believe, if you're objective, there are objective

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Speaker 2: Year, with objectivity.

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Speaker 3: He's a far better player than the one who turned

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Speaker 3: He took one hundred sacks two seasons in Denver, more

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Speaker 3: He's never hurt. He's an experienced quarterback. He's had big moments.

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Speaker 3: He leads fourth quarter comebacks. He actually helped the Broncos

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Speaker 3: the Midnight Hour. There's an old saying, give me a

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Speaker 7: All right, Bernie, Yes, Selection Sunday is on the horizon,

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Speaker 7: free agent All Pro offensive tackle Tyron Smith has agreed

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Kevin, appreciate you, Bud.

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Speaker 10: Shouldn't matter much. It's just I mean the one verse sixteen,

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Speaker 10: the tournament, a team they had beaten by over forty

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Speaker 10: twice during the year. Now, when the draw came out

432
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Speaker 10: and the seatings came out or did not make the tournament,

433
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Speaker 10: and I mentioned on the show, and it was Butler

434
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Speaker 10: would have been the betting favorite over all four I

435
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Speaker 10: want to say three seeds, but it might have been

436
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Speaker 10: two seeds. That's how ridiculous it was. They were left out.

437
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Speaker 10: Also that year, Utah State under stut Morel had a

438
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Speaker 10: very high net ranking or whatever the hell they looked

439
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Speaker 10: at then, and also would have been a team that

440
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Speaker 10: was very worthy of getting in, and they didn't get

441
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Speaker 10: in either. And the common denominator they had is they

442
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Speaker 10: were both from the lesser conferences. So of course, when

443
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Speaker 10: a team's a betting favorite over three seeds, all of them,

444
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 10: it makes you wonder what's going on. And for every

445
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Speaker 10: year since then, it's just more of the same.

446
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Speaker 3: Talking with a great Alan Boston, Allen so your subtext

447
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Speaker 3: here is quite obvious. This isn't made for TV tournament Invitational.

448
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Speaker 3: Rather than putting the best teams on the floor who

449
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Speaker 3: have gotten there on their merit there.

450
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Speaker 10: They purport to put the best teams forward. That's what

451
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Speaker 10: they do. Unfortunately, every thing they look at and every

452
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Speaker 10: time they tweak what they look at, it favors the

453
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Speaker 10: Power conferences. This year, as a bonus, they used to

454
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Speaker 10: give an automatic bid to the n t for all

455
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Speaker 10: the conference winners, which is reasonable, but this year they

456
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Speaker 10: changed that. No more automatic bid. In fact, the only

457
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Speaker 10: automatic bids are they're to the top two net rankings

458
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Speaker 10: of the six Power conferences that didn't make the NCAA tournament,

459
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Speaker 10: and they get home games. So at least they're not

460
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Speaker 10: trying to trick anybody in to think that they actually

461
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Speaker 10: care about what's right and wrong. They're just saying, all right,

462
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Speaker 10: we're giving our money and acclaim to all our brethren

463
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Speaker 10: who were in the big schools, and screw the rest.

464
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Speaker 10: What they are missing, of course, is that Cinderella is

465
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Speaker 10: always what's talked about. Royal or Chicago and Sister Jean

466
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Speaker 10: George Mason's run to the Final four but was back

467
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Speaker 10: to back finals, et cetera, et cetera. Sure, what's talked

468
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Speaker 10: about on Saturday is the upsets in the first round.

469
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Speaker 10: They very rarely say, well Kentucky, Kansas and Duke moved on.

470
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 10: They'll mention it, But what gets the most print is

471
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Speaker 10: the upsets. It's the charm of the tournament, which what

472
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Speaker 10: makes it a great tournament. So when they decide to

473
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Speaker 10: take the three power conferences that they'll create and go

474
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Speaker 10: and do their own thing, they'll completely ruin the tournament.

475
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Speaker 10: The purity and the charm and the romance of the

476
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Speaker 10: tournament will be gonzo.

477
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Speaker 2: You're not wrong.

478
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Speaker 3: So let's talk about a couple of this year cinderellas.

479
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Speaker 3: I'd really let you get your thoughts on. For instance,

480
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Speaker 3: McNee State you know and does will wait to even

481
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Speaker 3: hang around after this year. And Princeton is another team

482
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Speaker 3: that I think could actually put together a pretty deep run.

483
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Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Am I wrong? What are your thoughts

484
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Speaker 2: on those two schools?

485
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Speaker 10: McNee said, I watched them the other night, and I'm

486
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Speaker 10: not an NBA scout or some EXE and O's guy.

487
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Speaker 10: I'm just a guy who handy Caps games. But they

488
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 10: were very, very good. Their resume is very good. They

489
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 10: had some impressive wins this year. They went to VCU

490
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 10: and beat them rather handily. They crushed UAV who's a

491
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Speaker 10: very good team. They went to Michigan before Michigan gave

492
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Speaker 10: up on the year and buried them.

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Speaker 8: That is.

494
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Speaker 10: Even beating Lofty ed at home. And this is up

495
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Speaker 10: the top of my head is what I remember. They

496
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Speaker 10: may have had some others in there, and you know,

497
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 10: and they freezed to the salt plan. They've won most

498
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 10: of the games in the cut plan in the right manner.

499
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 10: I watched them the other night. They defend extremely well.

500
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Speaker 10: They defend a three point line as well as anyone

501
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 10: that I've watched. They have a lot of high major talent.

502
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 10: The kid Wells from Dicky some TCU will not be

503
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 10: broken down by anybody. It doesn't matter who guards them,

504
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 10: He's going to be able to handle it. They definitely

505
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 10: have some size upfront. There definitely a threat to win

506
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 10: a game or two in the tournament. As for Princeton,

507
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 10: in the press conference leading up to this IVY League tournament,

508
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Speaker 10: which I totally object to, they asked Henderson if he

509
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 10: thought he'd get in at a large bid, and you know,

510
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 10: of course, the Ivys are going to be on top

511
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 10: of things and they know the reality of things, and no,

512
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Speaker 10: we have to win the tournament. Even though one could

513
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Speaker 10: argue they have a high net. They've had a terrific year,

514
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Speaker 10: and I would bet them pick against Virginia. They might

515
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 10: think a small dog, but some of these teams that

516
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 10: are like locks to be in are no big deal

517
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 10: over Princeton, and I would contend that it's healthier and

518
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 10: better for the tournament to have a lesser team that's

519
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 10: had a super strong year than some garbage team from

520
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Speaker 10: the Big Ten or the ACC who hasn't. They would,

521
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 10: of course argue differently. Yes, Princeton, incredible job by Henderson

522
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 10: this year. I mean they lost that kid to the NBA.

523
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 10: It's rare that the Ivy's as an NBA player, but

524
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 10: the kid with a long name, or I wouldn't be

525
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Speaker 10: trying to pronounce it when they lost him and two

526
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 10: other senior starters. I thought they were. I thought they

527
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 10: would the level would drop off. In fact, this team's

528
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Speaker 10: better than last year's team. Unfortunately, Yale is also better

529
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Speaker 10: than last year's team, and they're playing at a very

530
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Speaker 10: high level too. Like either one of those teams would

531
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Speaker 10: be a good entrance in the in the NCAAA, it

532
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 10: would give someone fits if not win well, And of

533
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 10: course you would get both those Both both McNeese and

534
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Speaker 10: Princeton are threats to stir a few pots in the

535
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Speaker 10: first round and maybe even the second round.

536
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Speaker 3: And I believe Princeton has legitimate pedigree. Who can forget

537
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Speaker 3: the ninety six team with Pete Carill that upset a

538
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Speaker 3: very good UCLA team. And then just a few years back,

539
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Speaker 3: when Steve Offered had New Mexico as the number three seed,

540
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Speaker 3: Priston took him apart. They didn't just beat him, they

541
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: could They systematically, surgically took them apart. Let's go on

542
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: the other end of the spectrum.

543
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Speaker 10: Well, last last year they didn't do so bad either.

544
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Speaker 3: I agree. Oh, I'm with you.

545
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Speaker 10: Arizona or Missouri. I believe it was and great in

546
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Speaker 10: a tough game. They just but this year's teams other

547
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Speaker 10: than last year's.

548
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Speaker 2: Team, and they play a pure version of the game.

549
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Speaker 3: Talk with Alan Boston legend and by the way, our

550
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Speaker 3: segments and we never seem to have enough time. I

551
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Speaker 3: want to get you back next Saturday night for a

552
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: double shot. Well we'll be heading in. We'll have the

553
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: first two three days under our belt and love to

554
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: get your observations. Uh, but what I was going to

555
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: ask you, Alan, Let's flip to the other side of

556
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: the coin, and you know you've got the Houston's and

557
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: the Yukon's and the Purdues, maybe the Tennessee's, the Alabamas,

558
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Speaker 3: et cetera, North Carolinas.

559
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Speaker 2: Who is most vulnerable?

560
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Speaker 3: For instance, who would you of that group would be

561
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Speaker 3: most likely to be gone by the end the next weekend?

562
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Speaker 11: Oh?

563
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 10: Alabama, for sure. They actually surprised they don't have a team.

564
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Speaker 10: Will voted with talent Alabama. They have a lot of

565
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 10: great major talents, but he makes it work. He's very

566
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 10: very good. But they don't defend that well. And if

567
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 10: they kind of have an off night shooting, they could

568
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Speaker 10: be gone very quickly.

569
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: How about all of a sudden they're catching fire with

570
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl.

571
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Speaker 2: I respect your ability a year all year.

572
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Speaker 3: We've always been very candid about you, you know, your

573
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: relative belief in an analysis of coaches. I won't mention

574
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: your names, Roy Williams, but what do you think about

575
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Speaker 3: a guy like a Bruce Pearl. I like Bruce Pearl,

576
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Speaker 3: I think de Man can coach your thoughts.

577
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Speaker 2: He wins, he produces the results.

578
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Speaker 10: Yeah, he wins in different ways. Like it was contin Milwaukee.

579
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 10: They pressed all over the place, and uh, you know

580
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 10: that's not how Auburn wins. But I think players like

581
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 10: playing fam I don't think he's any genius as a coach.

582
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Speaker 3: But don't you agree Alan, knowing this day and age.

583
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: In this day and age, Allen, don't you agree that

584
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: x's and those are least our least important as they've.

585
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Speaker 2: Been in the last forty years. It's more about go ahead.

586
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Speaker 10: It's kind of sad, right, mm hmm.

587
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: You got to every rule.

588
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 10: Change they make, tries to negate it again, I would

589
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 10: contend that it's just so the teams with the most talent.

590
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 10: They want the teams with the most talent to move

591
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 10: on in this tournament. So you shorten the shot clock

592
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 10: every rule change and make favors them, and you let

593
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 10: them play a little bit so the bigger, bodied, more

594
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 10: athletic guys can get every rebound and and ultimately wear

595
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 10: the team down. It's it's irreputable that every rule change

596
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 10: they makes help helps the big schools. So so if.

597
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Speaker 3: I were to give you Yukon or Yukon and or Houston.

598
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: Yukon and Houston or the field to win it all,

599
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: which would you take?

600
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Speaker 12: M Probably the field, okay, but that's a good bet.

601
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 10: That's that's that's good. Yukon is the best team in

602
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 10: Houston's probably the second best team.

603
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Speaker 3: So well, for me, if you can do it's six

604
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: games in a row, you know, you got to survive

605
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: in advance one one of those games, and then who

606
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: can do with six games? You got to win two

607
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: in a row, three different weekends. It's as simple as

608
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: that much.

609
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 10: Definitely the best team.

610
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

611
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 10: Yes, they're better than they were last year. They face

612
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 10: the they space the court better, they have more offensive weapons,

613
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 10: and they still defend like mother efferds. So uh yeah,

614
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 10: they're They've been very, very impressive and they've gotten better

615
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 10: as the years gone on. So and they were kind

616
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 10: of young to start the year. So they are definitely

617
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 10: they are definitely a team to beat. That's that's irreputable.

618
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 10: They will be the favorite.

619
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Speaker 3: And Alan uh Alan, I just got about I got

620
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Speaker 3: less than a minute. We're gonna I want you back

621
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Speaker 3: next weekend. I'll talk to you. We'll be in the

622
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: throes of the tournament. We never never have enough time.

623
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: YEA mentioned great and I repeated for emphasis, like Howard

624
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: Cosell used to give me a quick dark horse.

625
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: That know, my hero talking about give me a dark horse.

626
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 13: Oh.

627
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 10: I mentioned Saint Mary's last time I was on. That

628
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 10: hasn't changed. And I watched them play against Saga.

629
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

630
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, and doesn't think that team. The team is good,

631
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 10: doesn't know what they wanting. They barely make a mistake

632
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 10: on on either side of the ball. You know, they

633
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 10: lacked some of the athleticism that the better teams have,

634
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 10: but they can grind you out in the half court.

635
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 10: And ultimately these games are played in the half court.

636
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 10: And and they play it as well as anyone on

637
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 10: the planet.

638
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 11: Uh.

639
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 10: And there's another guy who sleeper, I I would uh yeah, No,

640
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 10: Randy Bennet's amazing. He's he's terrifically just really good. The

641
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 10: other sleep I guess Farder Atlantic. Why not. Sure, no

642
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 10: one's talking about No one's talking about Florida Atlantic.

643
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: But they're well last year they were Yeah.

644
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 10: Every there, every bit is they get everyone back from

645
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 10: last year and and and they choked away a game

646
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 10: to make the finals, so you know, and having been

647
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 10: through that definitely helps. It helps with the nerves down

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Speaker 10: down the stretch. And they use a lot of guys,

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Speaker 10: which I think is also important. And they're incredibly well coached,

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Speaker 10: and I think they've struggled this year because they've been

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Speaker 10: you know, everyone's taking their best shot at them, and

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Speaker 10: that that's that's a very hard dynamic to overcome. However,

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Speaker 10: if you go back earlier in a year on our

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Speaker 10: neutral court, they beat ariz Owner and it was no joke.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, there the other I would say.

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Speaker 3: All right, Alan, let's get you back on next Saturday

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Speaker 3: night he and a Sunday morning. We'll have a lot

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Speaker 3: to talk about. Great stuff. Has always enjoyed the rest

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Speaker 3: of your weekend. That is the great Alan Boston. Follow

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Speaker 3: him at at Boston D eighty eight on Twitter. Coming up,

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Speaker 3: Get your fingers ready, Get your voices ready, eight seven

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Speaker 3: six six three six ' nine. We revisit and we

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Speaker 3: set up the midnight hour. Get your thoughts on Nick

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Speaker 3: Saban's comments, get your thoughts on Russell Wilson, and I

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Speaker 3: have a one very interesting tweet to read that a

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Speaker 3: gentleman's waited on Russell Wilson, and I'm sure his opinion

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Speaker 3: matters a lot, because I think he saw Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: a lot this year.

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Speaker 2: But that was last year.

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Speaker 3: We see what happened next year. But that's why we

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Speaker 3: do this. Remember, the most boring conversations is when everybody agrees.

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Speaker 3: We've already got callers hauling eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 3: midnight tonight, we're gonna get into Nick Saban's comments, and

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Speaker 3: in case you didn't get a chance to hear them,

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Speaker 14: All the things that I believed in for all these

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Speaker 14: years fifty years coaching no longer exist in college athletics.

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Speaker 14: So it's always about developing players. It was always about

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Speaker 14: helping people may more successful in life. My wife even

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Speaker 14: said to me, we'd have all the recruits over on

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Speaker 14: Sunday with their parents for breakfast, and she would always

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Speaker 14: meet with the mothers and talk about how she was

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Speaker 14: going to help and impact their sons and how they

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Speaker 14: would be well taken care of. And she came to me,

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Speaker 14: you know, like right before I retired, and said, why

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Speaker 14: are we doing this? And I said, what do you mean?

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Speaker 14: She said, all they care about is how much you're

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Speaker 14: going to pay them. They don't care about how you're

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Speaker 14: going to develop them, which is all what we've always done,

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Speaker 14: So why are we doing this?

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Speaker 3: So you'll never hear me say anything bad about Nick Saban.

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Speaker 3: I was just getting my radio career going ninety four

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Speaker 3: when Saban got the town coach Michigan State for three

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Speaker 3: years starting in ninety five. I was even part of

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Speaker 3: a golf scramble once he was in. You'll never see

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Speaker 3: me say anything bad about Saban.

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Speaker 2: But can't we.

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Speaker 3: Hold both thoughts that currently the world changes. We used

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Speaker 3: to fight wars with a single shot rifle. In every

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Speaker 3: aspect of life, change happens. You don't like your high school,

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Speaker 3: you transfer. Maybe they got a better English department. You

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Speaker 3: don't like your job, you go find a new one.

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Speaker 3: Maybe another employer offers you more money. You don't like

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Speaker 3: living in the state you're in, You move. This is

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Speaker 3: what happens now. I get it that Nick Saban and

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Speaker 3: a lot of college coaches their right to maybe want

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Speaker 3: some rules and some guardrails to kind of stop the

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Speaker 3: current chaos, the right to want more stability on the roster,

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Speaker 3: less nil related shenanigans from recruits or transfers or they're handlers.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy the power brokers in college sports to do

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Speaker 3: their hard work and create solutions. Well, get to work.

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Speaker 3: You got to find a happy medium. But Nick say,

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Speaker 3: I don't agree that those things are gone. A kid

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Speaker 3: can still want money and still be developed. And still

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Speaker 3: want to be developed. So I think you can find

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Speaker 3: that happy medium. I genuinely believe that. As far as

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, one of our good listeners, he goes by

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Speaker 3: Broncos Life, but he spells it l YYF. He commented

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Speaker 3: on my Russell Wilson thoughts, He said, sorry, Bernie, I've

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Speaker 3: watched every single snap of the Rusty Air and dender

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Speaker 3: many of them twice. He's absolutely awful. It's an upgrade

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Speaker 3: from twenty seventh worst quarterback to the twenty first worst.

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Speaker 3: Huge mistake by the Steelers may possibly get Tomblin fired. Well,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna see. He went on to say. Most of

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Speaker 3: the sacks were on Rusty holding the ball, break in

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Speaker 3: the pocket wide, open wide receivers running free. He didn't carry,

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Speaker 3: can't see him. He did throw twenty six touchdown passes

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Speaker 3: against eight picks. I do think he had an issue

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Speaker 3: with Sean Payton. I'm open minded to see what happens,

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Speaker 3: and that's why we do The Midnight Hour eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 3: nine to nine on Fox eight seven seven nine, ninety

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Speaker 2: Who's going to have the last laugh, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Or the Broncos and we talk about Nick Saban keep

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Speaker 3: it locked midnight hour, the Bernie Frattles Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Well that's right, all right, you heard the man. The

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Speaker 3: full of lines. And you know why, because it's Friday night.

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Speaker 3: It's the midnight hour. So the legend Nick Saban had

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Speaker 3: some very pointed comments about nil and how the changing

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Speaker 3: landscape favored heavily in his decision.

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Speaker 2: To cause him to want to move on.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Russell Wilson has moved on to Pittsburgh. Who's gonna

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Speaker 3: have the last laugh? Russell Wilson? Are Sean Payton? We

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Speaker 3: waste no time. Let's go right out to the phone lines.

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Speaker 3: We got Jim from Massachusetts to start us off tonight. Jim,

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Speaker 3: what do you got for us tonight.

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Speaker 9: Buddy, it's Nick Saban.

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Speaker 12: I listened to his whole thing with Brett Baer on

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Speaker 12: Box News, and the biggest thing out of that is

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Speaker 12: when he said, you know, football, and you know somewhat basketball,

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Speaker 12: taking all the money, you know, for the colleges, that's

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Speaker 12: all gone. All the money that goes down to the

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Speaker 12: other sports to survive and everything on the college that's

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Speaker 12: all gone now. And it's because it's going to be

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Speaker 12: going to the players. And it's like, you know, he's right.

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Speaker 12: And the other thing is, Bernie, what's to motivate the

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Speaker 12: kids to play good? I mean, if they're making their

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Speaker 12: money in college, like you said earlier, a lot of

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Speaker 12: them are going to make the pros, what do they

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Speaker 12: care about? Because you know a lot of kids, they're

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Speaker 12: just kids, and you know most a lot of those kids,

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Speaker 12: and I don't mean to be me, but I'm just

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Speaker 12: gonna tell you a lot of them got the IQ

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Speaker 12: of a house plant going there. So I think, giving

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Speaker 12: those kids money and have them play, you're gonna find

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Speaker 12: out you're gonna have a lot of off field problems

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Speaker 12: because they have money in their pockets now, and it's

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Speaker 12: just going to be a big, total mess. They never

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Speaker 12: should have done it, and they never should allowed unionization

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Speaker 12: to play it either. That was very stupid to let

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Speaker 12: children have that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not finalized by the way, Jim, those

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Speaker 3: kids at dart Mouth. I'm going to talk about that

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Speaker 3: in the future show big mistake, but earlier. To your point,

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Speaker 3: I honestly believe this has been going on for decades anyway, Jim,

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Speaker 3: it's just now brought out in the open, and so

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Speaker 3: it's more brazen. Players are acting as free agents that

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Speaker 3: want to go to the highest bidder, so their priorities

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Speaker 3: have changed far in terms of effort, morality, and maturity.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can legislate that. Players are

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Speaker 3: going to have to find out of their own Your

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Speaker 3: final thought, Uh.

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Speaker 12: I think you're right there, Brinan, But I just I

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Speaker 12: just say that children, I know a lot of them

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Speaker 12: come from you know, poor backgrounds, But it was just

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Speaker 12: the wrong thing that what is there where is the

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Speaker 12: philosophy of training them? Well, you work hard, you know

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Speaker 12: you get you do this, you know you get make

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Speaker 12: it grades and you've come successful later on in life.

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Speaker 12: You just can't do it the other way around. Your ma,

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Speaker 12: all their money up front first and then expect them

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Speaker 12: to do well throughout their future. It's just not going

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Speaker 12: to happen. And the flip and the last thing out

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Speaker 12: point I'll make is that Russell Wilson, I think he's

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Speaker 12: going to flourish and Pittsburgh And if Pittsburgh does well

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Speaker 12: and h and Denver doesn't, I think you got to

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Speaker 12: see Peyton on the hook.

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Speaker 3: Interesting all I got. All right, thanks, you appreciate it. Man,

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Speaker 3: lots unpacked there, but by the way, I'm gonna shoot

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Speaker 3: my shot. I think Russell Wilson is going to do

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Speaker 3: well in Pittsburgh. Additionally, Greg from Michigan, what do you

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Speaker 3: got for us tonight?

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Speaker 2: Howdy howdy?

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Speaker 8: Appear to the upper upper principal.

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Speaker 2: Ah, you per nicely done.

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Speaker 15: Yes, but about fifteen miles from Northern Michigan University the

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Speaker 15: holl up, Tom Izzo and Steve mary.

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Speaker 2: G and Kevin Tapani former Major League pitcher.

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Speaker 9: Oh.

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Speaker 15: Yes. First of all, when it's pay to play stuff

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Speaker 15: went on with his college or athletes. I thought it

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Speaker 15: was going to be sport a through sports Z male

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Speaker 15: and female.

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Speaker 16: Everybody get a skip end.

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Speaker 2: It's like gibe fifteen hundred or two.

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Speaker 15: Thousand dollars say a month or whatever it is, and

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Speaker 15: everybody share the wealth and Wallick carry it away. Now

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Speaker 15: it's better than a free agency and any other major

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Speaker 15: sport in professional sports.

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Speaker 3: Well, and there there in lies the fundamental issue. What

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Speaker 3: it had been intended to be was an incentive for

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Speaker 3: players to market their name, image and likeness based on

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Speaker 3: their qurating in the community, based on their performance on

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Speaker 3: the field thereabouts. But like you said, it's changed. It's

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Speaker 3: free agency.

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Speaker 2: Now did you just.

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Speaker 15: Take a picture of yourself with their side autographs and

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Speaker 15: you get so much money?

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Speaker 2: It's up to you.

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Speaker 15: You know, that's perfect, But now it's it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 16: And now at home for school to school.

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Speaker 15: I'm getting five see two point five million here, I

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Speaker 15: mean I wanted to.

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Speaker 10: And really, you know, if you're way out of hand, and.

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Speaker 15: I guess see all these coaches are done.

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Speaker 8: It's bad enough.

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Speaker 15: If you go for a weekend away from your college,

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Speaker 15: say you go to your cottage or something, you come back,

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Speaker 15: you can lose the ball players.

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Speaker 9: You've better stay with babies.

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Speaker 3: Anything on Russell Wilson, I don't know.

865
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Speaker 15: So he's a little checker pastor. And now I think

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Speaker 15: He's limited, but he's got the experience to help with

867
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 15: Keem Like Pittsburgh, as long as you can run the

868
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 15: football a little bit and he can get play action

869
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 15: stuff in, he's effective, but he's not a sit back

870
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 15: in a pass or in a pocket to throw things

871
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 15: around anymore.

872
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Greg appreciated, Stay stay warm up there in

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00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: the up. By the way, let me just say this

874
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: before we move on. I do think this will even

875
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: out organically because I don't think a lot of these

876
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: collectives and individual boosters are getting a return on their investment.

877
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: You saw what happened at Texas A and M. By

878
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: the way, the number one paid athlete You're never gonna

879
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: guess it in terms of nil according to my research,

880
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: Bronnie James five point nine million. So what are they

881
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: getting back for that five point nine million? I'm not

882
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: saying or not, but someone maybe can enlighten me. Frank

883
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: from Nantucket, you are up next, my friend, Hey Bernie,

884
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: how are I go?

885
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: Don Well, sir?

886
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 17: Disappointed that they got rid of Kenny Pickett. Now, first

887
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 17: of all, we played for probably one of the worst

888
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 17: offensive coordinators of all time.

889
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 8: True.

890
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 17: Secondly, during the time he was there, the Stiller offensive

891
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 17: line stunt probably was among the three bottom offensive lines

892
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 17: and NOVAL football. And thirdly, I think he's playing for

893
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 17: the most overrated coach in the history of professional football,

894
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 17: Mike the Mouth Tomlin. I think he got Ley.

895
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: You don't care for Mike Tomlin. See, this is why

896
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: we do the Midnight Hour. Hang on here, big fellow,

897
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 3: you're going to stand on the line here. I spent

898
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: a lot of time in NFL circles. He's highly respected.

899
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: But as I've always set the more those boring conversations

900
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: are the ones where everybody agrees, you got the floor.

901
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: Continue, Well, what's he done?

902
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 9: He has?

903
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 17: How long has it been since the Silics win a

904
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 17: playoff game?

905
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 10: That's what counts.

906
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 17: The standard is not being a coach that's above five

907
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 17: hundred throughout every year of his career. The standard is

908
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 17: winning super bowls in Pittsburgh. Forget about the Super Bowl.

909
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 17: You can't even win a playoff game, which the last time, Well,

910
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 17: you're right, you're.

911
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Never going to escape to what have you done for

912
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: me lately? Fair enough? Anything on the nil?

913
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 10: Nah, that's it all right.

914
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: You don't be a stranger there, Frank, appreciate you man.

915
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: Next up, you knowing me loving Poppy from San Diego.

916
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: What's happening Poppy?

917
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 18: Hey, Bernie, I'm very very excited here working hard. But

918
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 18: I wasn't Indian well my hometown, because there was a

919
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 18: tennis garden, you know, for the tennis tournament and Carlos

920
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 18: Akata actually got a tag by these and he's gonna

921
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 18: play later on today. So I'm like, oh, my goodness

922
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 18: of coats against Sinner. So I'm very excited for that, Bernie.

923
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: So you got anything tonight on the nil? Nick Saban

924
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: or Russell Wilson, Yes.

925
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Speaker 18: Actually I do, Bernie. I was gonna tell you know

926
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Speaker 18: next Aban he's always gonna cry he made a lot

927
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 18: of money in the millions and millions and millions. And

928
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 18: then like I actually have a friend that he goes

929
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 18: to Marquette And the other time I was in a space,

930
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 18: you know, on X and he was telling me he

931
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 18: didn't have no money to eat, and I'm like, hey,

932
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 18: I'll send you some money because I know how it

933
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 18: is for.

934
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Speaker 10: Those college students.

935
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Speaker 18: So I think it's good they're getting money so now

936
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 18: they can eat, Like how the other was they wouldn't

937
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 18: have no money to eat, and they were like starve.

938
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 18: So I think that good. They can make some money.

939
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 18: Why why can't the coaches are making millions? Why can't

940
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 18: not the kids make money and so they could survive?

941
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: You know, well that's a fair point.

942
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: Look, the hypocrisy aspect of this is something that's been

943
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: discussed for decades. A coach can up and leave tomorrow

944
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: and have a new job. The player proud to now

945
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: if you transferred you head to red shirt. Anything on

946
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, is he.

947
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Gonna win or losing? Pittsburgh's who's gonna.

948
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 18: Have a lot of last Yeah, I think Russell Wilson

949
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 18: will have the last last and he's gonna get revenge

950
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 18: on no, no shantaining for all the other teams that

951
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 18: didn't believe on them, no one that believes in him.

952
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 18: He's gonna have the last last. And I think you

953
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 18: know he's gonna do a lot for Mike Tomlin. Mike

954
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 18: commlan had a winning record with Tenny Pickett. He should

955
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 18: have over nine or ten wins with Russell Wilson.

956
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: So that's all right, good stuff, Pop, You take care

957
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: of down are in San Diego. Look, Pittsburgh won ten

958
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: games last year, all right. They had an anemic offense. Uh,

959
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: and I don't disagree with I think it Frank's comments

960
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: and Kenny Pickett, I think in time he's going to develop.

961
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: But Pittsburgh does have a win now defense and a

962
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: win now culture, and we'll see if Russell Wilson can

963
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: get them.

964
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: Over the hump.

965
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: Bob from Nashville, you're up next to on the Bernie

966
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: Fratters Show midnight Hour.

967
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 19: Bernie, there's a three year NFL rule for college football players,

968
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 19: maaning you can't go to the pros for three years.

969
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 19: Nowhere else to go but college football. I know that

970
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 19: the colleges know it, and that's why the Supreme Court

971
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 19: never said the colleges have to increase the scholarship at all.

972
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Speaker 19: I don't care how much money they make. It's just

973
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 19: a matter of letting the players make some side money.

974
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 19: So there's never going to be any payment for these players.

975
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 19: The colleges can just keep offering the same scholarship, and

976
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 19: I think they should. The players are over a barrel,

977
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 19: and that's why they've never met their demands. And what

978
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 19: they're doing now is they're getting legalized cheating for These

979
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 19: companies are just I mean not companies. These me and

980
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 19: ar boosters are just getting together and giving them lottery

981
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 19: type money, and like you said, they're not getting any

982
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 19: return on investment. But I want everybody to understand the

983
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 19: colleges can pay whatever they want. The Supreme Court cannot

984
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 19: force the colleges to increase the scholarship. And where's the

985
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 19: football player are going to go for three years? He's

986
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 19: going to play college football? Go to school for free,

987
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 19: go to class for free. Show the NFL how good

988
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 19: he is against Alabama, Georgia State, and also get nil.

989
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 19: But don't tell me that the colleges need to be

990
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 19: told what to do by the players.

991
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 13: They do not.

992
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 19: They're going to keep doing their thing. And what's gonna happen, Bernie,

993
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 19: They're going to cut down on these collectives, which these

994
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 19: players are not really earning the money, they're just getting

995
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 19: hand handouts.

996
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 20: Good.

997
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 10: So that's why it's going to be Bernie all right.

998
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, Bob. Good thoughts. I don't disagree with

999
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: any of you just said. We must keep in mind. Though.

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00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: The basis for tonight's conversation was Nick Saban's assertion that

1001
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: he's tired of being asked how much money am I

1002
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: going to get? And so I can no longer develop players.

1003
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: I love Nick Saban, but my character I categorically disagree

1004
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: with his premise coming up to Steven, Kansas City, David

1005
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: and Kansas Lynn and Riverside, Kylin, La Vegas. We're gonna

1006
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: get to all of you. No one gets shut out,

1007
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: So just hang tight and we will continue in tonight's

1008
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: discussion in the Midnight Hour, Russell Wilson, Who's going to

1009
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: have the last laugh? Russell or Sean Payton and Nick

1010
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: Saban and his comments? Can we hold two thoughts concurrently?

1011
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: As we are in a new age of I say

1012
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: this in air quotes amateur athletics.

1013
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle.

1014
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: We are coming to you live from the Las Vegas

1015
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Tireck dot Com Studios. Keep it locked

1016
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frawdle Show on

1017
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. We're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show.

1018
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. The Midnight Hour continues with your calls

1019
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: eight seven, seven, nine and nine one Fox. Nick Saban's comments,

1020
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: what were your thoughts when you heard them? And who's

1021
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: going to have the last laugh? Next year in the

1022
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: National Football League? Russell Wilson, Our Sean Payton. We go

1023
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: out to Kansas City where Steve joins us. Steven, Kansas City,

1024
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: how are you.

1025
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 13: Tonight, Hey, great Bernie. You do a better job of

1026
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 13: breaking down this Russell Wilson thing than anybody I've heard.

1027
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 13: You're the best of the best in terms of concisely

1028
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 13: making your points. I mean, Papa Joe would be proud.

1029
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 13: I used to call him, all.

1030
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, thank you, Steve.

1031
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: Continue.

1032
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1033
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 13: My only my thing about Russell Wilson. I think Tomlin

1034
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 13: has a has a culture firmly established. And you know,

1035
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 13: there was a bunch of Ham and Eggers in Denver

1036
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 13: and they really had to had to blow it up

1037
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 13: and do it all from the scratch. And Tomlin, Tomlin

1038
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 13: has got has got it already in place. And a

1039
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 13: little bit of a little bit of of of of

1040
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 13: a wild guys is okay, a little bit of a

1041
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 13: quirky guy like Kirk Cousins, okay, in small doses, and

1042
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 13: I think they they may do exceptionally well with Tomlin

1043
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 13: and when and Russell Wilson. I just got a feeling,

1044
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 13: like like you said about Nick Saban. I've been around

1045
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 13: big time college athletics for decades, and and with every

1046
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 13: bone in my body, I feel like we're this is

1047
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 13: this is going to be a huge problem. These issues

1048
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 13: that simply simply put, you have way too many, way

1049
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 13: too much money in the hands of a couple guys,

1050
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 13: and the guys who are point guard on the team,

1051
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 13: just like back in the n I in the fifties,

1052
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 13: the guys that have the ball with a point guard

1053
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 13: are not getting the money. And then when when that

1054
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 13: comes to pass, really bad things happen. So I'm kind

1055
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 13: of for this Dartmouth law this lawsuit, or this motion

1056
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 13: to file a players union to where the compensation might

1057
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 13: be a little bit more evenly spread. I'm not talking

1058
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 13: about a lot, but we are.

1059
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 20: Looking down the barrel of a huge of a huge

1060
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 20: scandal here. I mean, we've already had a kid at

1061
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 20: LSU gambling something like, you know, at seventeen years old,

1062
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 20: gambling five hundred K if you look it up, you know,

1063
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 20: I mean, what the canary is already in the coal mine.

1064
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 20: And and I think that's what Nick Saban is alluding to.

1065
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 20: But this will, this might kill college athletics as we

1066
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 20: know it unless we get a player's union and get this,

1067
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 20: get a bunch of these deals negotiated, you know, with

1068
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 20: it with a group instead of.

1069
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 13: Just one guy, because I mean, you can see this

1070
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 13: coming down down down the line. I mean I just

1071
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 13: want to you have you have that experience. I mean,

1072
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 13: what do you think about that that idea?

1073
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: All right? Well, thanks, uh yeah, thank you, Steve. I

1074
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: have some long thoughts about unionization. I really want to

1075
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: get to the callers. You are right about the Canarian

1076
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: the coal mine. Trust me, the warning the warning signs

1077
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: are there, and not every school is participating in NIL

1078
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: that vigorously. I think you're going to start to see

1079
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: elevening out process organically and then law of unattended consequences

1080
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: when kids have money in their pocket, that's uh uh

1081
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: the there's always a chance for more increased productroblems. But

1082
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: those things happened also even back in the seventies. Believe

1083
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: it or not. David in Kansas, you're up next.

1084
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

1085
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 16: Hi, Bernie, Hey, you said something early on that I

1086
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 16: believe is one of.

1087
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 9: The great ways to just let.

1088
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 16: The work themselves out, according to free enterprise, and that's

1089
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 16: the return on investment. When these people throwing money and

1090
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 16: giving money to these players realize that they're losing money.

1091
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 16: There's no return on their investment. The money will go elsewhere.

1092
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 16: It will work itself out. This is the way the

1093
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 16: stock market works. People invent a product, they put it

1094
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 16: out there to sell it. If it doesn't sell, they

1095
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 16: either have to close down the country the company, or

1096
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 16: they have to change the product, or they have to

1097
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 16: do better advertising. They do something to get out there

1098
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 16: and sell what they may. So the students are like

1099
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 16: the serfs out there working for the king in the castle.

1100
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 16: Nick Saban is the king in the castle, and he's

1101
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 16: also the canary in the coal mine. All of a

1102
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 16: sudden things are on and started to change, and he

1103
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 16: couldn't handle it because because the people working out in

1104
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 16: the fields for the king decided that they could go

1105
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 16: right next door across the border to the next warlord

1106
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 16: and sell the stuff and make money for themselves. They

1107
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 16: found a way. So that's the way free enterprise works

1108
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 16: in it will always work. And that's why the United

1109
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 16: States of America is the greatest country in the world. Period.

1110
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, dave covered a lot of ground.

1111
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: There don't be a stranger. And with respect to return

1112
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: on investment, look no further than.

1113
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Texas A and M.

1114
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: Three years ago, they orchestrated a brilliant effort, a collaborative.

1115
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: They called it Amplify. They were able to raise thirty

1116
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: million dollars. They bought on the breast recruiting class. Money

1117
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: can buy. Where's it got Texas A and in football

1118
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: the last couple years. Lennon Riverside, you're up next.

1119
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 21: Hello, Bernie. You don't know how much of a privilege

1120
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 21: I feel like for me to talk to you, because

1121
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 21: you really helped me through my Knights.

1122
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 12: I worked out there.

1123
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Lynn, it's nice to talk to you.

1124
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: Let's say what you got to say tonight.

1125
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 21: Hey, listen, Russell Wilson, he's win, win, win. While everybody's talking.

1126
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 21: The dude already gonna get all that money from the Broncos, right,

1127
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 21: and Sean Payton is really the demon and everybody looking.

1128
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 11: The other way.

1129
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 21: Now he's going to go to the Steelers who have

1130
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 21: a lot of pride, and they're not going to be

1131
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 21: any worse.

1132
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 12: They're going to be better with him.

1133
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: It's the way I see it.

1134
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: The man, you've been to the Pro Bowl nine times,

1135
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: he's been to the Super Bowl and one another one.

1136
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: Here's the problem, and I should have said this earlier.

1137
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: Lynn.

1138
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: People are now rooting for Russell Wilson to fail. That's

1139
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: what you're hearing here. Somewhere along the line, he pissed

1140
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,479
Speaker 3: people off because of his demeanor, and now they're rooting

1141
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: for him to fail. Anything else you got for us.

1142
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 21: Lynn, He reminded me of the very bonds of the football. Yeah, listen.

1143
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 21: What I didn't like about Steve Saban's comments is like, Okay,

1144
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 21: so on the college level he's getting paid great money.

1145
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 21: So I coached before high school. Different things like that.

1146
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 21: You never lose your sense of kids. First, you love them,

1147
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 21: You take care of them. If they make money, that's great.

1148
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 21: Everybody talk about the negative side of the money, but

1149
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 21: they need that money.

1150
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 9: Man, It's just they need.

1151
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: To have a problem with it. And here's the thing,

1152
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: Lenn and a good call. Appreciate hearing from you. Here's

1153
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: the thing. You can hold two thoughts concurrently. The kids

1154
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: can get money, you can still develop them. I love

1155
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: Nick Saban. I think he's just successively idealistic. Now again,

1156
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: you heard me joke. Earlier things evolved. We didn't used

1157
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: to have cell phones. They're cable TV. I mean, we

1158
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: used to fight wars with a single shot rifle. After

1159
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: die and Saban at seventy two said, you know what,

1160
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: this isn't what I signed up for. After forty years,

1161
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 3: I've had enough. But his remarks I think need to

1162
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: be taken a little bit with a gram assault. Kyle

1163
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, looking forward to what you have to

1164
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: say tonight, my friend.

1165
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 11: What's going on?

1166
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 10: Burnings?

1167
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 11: Love you already know, love Fridays, Love hearing your voice.

1168
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 11: So you sound a whole lot better this weekend.

1169
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: No antimatics kicked in? Yeah a while, that's.

1170
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 11: Good, all right, Let me storry about saying first roll

1171
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 11: tide role okay as an alump as that being all

1172
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 11: the matter under oh yeah yeah, well.

1173
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: As you there would say.

1174
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: We have different similarities and dealings with Nicked at Michigan State,

1175
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: and I love the guy, but go ahead, you got

1176
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: the floor.

1177
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 11: He's a wonderful guy. And even back when I played

1178
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 11: you know under his tutelage in seven oh wait, I

1179
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 11: wrote it pias statement because I says, kids then we

1180
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 11: were a little underwhelmed because we couldn't have you know,

1181
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 11: summer activity jobs. You couldn't do certain things during the

1182
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 11: time off, you know, preparing for spring ball and leading

1183
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 11: up to actually fall time to where we play. So

1184
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 11: I wrote a Pieci statement in ABC during that time

1185
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 11: was making thirteen point one billion dollars in TV revenue

1186
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 11: right just off of just off the kids, well off

1187
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 11: of anything else, just off of us.

1188
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: So if you.

1189
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 11: Took if you take that money intoday's inflation, that's probably

1190
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 11: around two hundred something billion dollars that they're able to

1191
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 11: put money back out there. Now, one thing that I

1192
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 11: would have known, that I wish I would have known beforehand,

1193
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 11: is how to manage finances. And when you're giving kids

1194
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 11: such as as an example, Mikey Williams, you're giving them

1195
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 11: five point five million dollars in NIO deals and then

1196
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 11: you know, court incidents happened. Uh, you have guys that

1197
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 11: don't know how to handle that money and they mismanage

1198
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 11: their funds and next thing you know, they're in college

1199
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 11: broke there and only one, you know, out of every

1200
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 11: one hundred kids go pro. So if even if you

1201
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 11: give a kid in an IO deal and they make

1202
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 11: that money, they're still going to be reckless with it.

1203
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 11: They're still going to spend it. So yes, it's a revulsion.

1204
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 11: Is the work that I'm looking for were it's time

1205
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 11: to revolt saving. I'm sorry, You're my guy. I love you,

1206
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 11: just you gotta adapt with toimes tomes.

1207
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: And as you know, Kyle and I know that if

1208
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: you know Nick and you know miss Terry, he where's

1209
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: the pants? And there's not adopt In my mind, she

1210
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: had a large part in this decision.

1211
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: And that is true.

1212
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 11: That is absolutely true when you know, coming from a

1213
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 11: background of my background, you know, not putting my life

1214
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 11: story out there, but I'm glad that I had the tuteligion,

1215
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 11: the the fine tuning of saying, you know what, you're

1216
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 11: here to play sports. You're not here to earn money.

1217
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 11: You're here to develop the talent that you have, the

1218
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 11: skills that you have, put them towards the next level. Right,

1219
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 11: there's a there's one hundred thousand student athletes. Only ten

1220
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 11: thousand of us ever go pro. Unfortunately I wasn't one

1221
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 11: of those ten thousand that went pro. But I did

1222
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 11: have a fun time and I did learn a lot.

1223
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: So real quickly because I got to get the Kevin's outdate.

1224
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: Do you have any conte any thoughts on Russell Wilson,

1225
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 3: who's going to have the last to laugh.

1226
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Wilson.

1227
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 11: Wilson flourishes, if Tomlin flourishes with them. You can only

1228
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 11: lead by success, and you can only see success being

1229
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 11: led by somebody who wants to actually lead it. Tomlin

1230
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 11: is going to be on the hot seat for the

1231
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 11: rest of this year. If Russell Wilson doesn't do well,

1232
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 11: Tomlin's out.

1233
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: Wilson stays, yeah, I think he's going to have successful.

1234
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: Leave it there.

1235
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: Look forward to next Friday, Kyle, thanks so much. Coming up,

1236
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 3: we are going to hear from Gilberto in San Diego,

1237
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: Emmett and Olympia, Dylon in Washington, Dennis and Vermont, Adam

1238
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 3: and Utah, Hank Tight. We're gonna get to all you

1239
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: of it. First, we gotta go back to our guy,

1240
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: Kevin Figures who always molly wops the latest.

1241
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: Dam straight, Bernie, thank you very much.

1242
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 7: We'll let's start with conference tournament play from college basketball

1243
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 7: on Friday, a series of upsets in the SEC quarterfinals,

1244
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 7: Texas A and M with a ten point victory over Kentucky,

1245
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 7: Mississippi State steam roll Tennessee, Florida dominated Alabama as well.

1246
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 7: In the PAC twelve Oregon upset number six Arizona, while

1247
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 7: Colorado defeated twenty second ranked Washington State to advance to

1248
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 7: the championship game. There, second ranked Yukon eked out of

1249
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 7: victory over Saint John's. They will take on tenth ranked

1250
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 7: Marquette for the Big East Championship. Big Ten quarterfinal victories

1251
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 7: for Wisconsin, Purdue, Illinois, and Nebraska. Michigan fired head coach

1252
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 7: Juwan Howard after five seasons, and the NBA didver improved

1253
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 7: to forty seven and twenty with a one to seventeen

1254
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 7: to one oh six win against the Spurs. New Orleans

1255
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 7: got thirty four points from Zion Williamson and a one

1256
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 7: twelve to one oh four victory over the Clippers. Victories

1257
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 7: for Miami, Phoenix and Orlando in the NFL, the Jets

1258
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 7: agree to terms on a one year contract with veteran

1259
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 7: offensive tackle Tyron Smith.

1260
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 4: All right, back to Bernie Fredo.

1261
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Kevin.

1262
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: All right, we keep rolling right on with the midnight hour,

1263
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: your Berto in San Diego.

1264
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 22: Where you been, buddy, Allmoss, Bernie? Maybe any two kpass

1265
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 22: more now, toy Felice, Felice, and you're happy, very happy, good, happy.

1266
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 10: To hear you.

1267
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 22: And that you are doing a lot better than two

1268
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 22: weeks ago.

1269
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: Okay, right, yeah, movie and Fermo something like that. Anyway, continue,

1270
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 3: let's hear from you so we can get to all

1271
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: the calls we want to hear from you.

1272
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 11: Gilberto, listen.

1273
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 22: I mostly agree with what they're saying, uh overall, but

1274
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 22: on the on the nick saving thing they are they

1275
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 22: are provoking the mess the in football, the schools are

1276
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 22: paying a lot of money to the to the student athletes.

1277
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 22: Now my question will be what about the education is

1278
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 22: that included? Because you have kids bouncing from school to

1279
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 22: school in the four years of college. I don't think

1280
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 22: it's good for them, But that's the decision here in

1281
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 22: the deal.

1282
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: Educations and activists pursuit. You can lead a horse to water.

1283
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 3: The kids got it. You know what, I wasn't the

1284
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: greatest college I will tell I was not the greatest

1285
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 3: college student my first couple of years, and I regret that.

1286
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 3: Continue on, GILBERTA. What your thoughts on Russell Wilson.

1287
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 22: Well, I think if he is what he thinks he is,

1288
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 22: he's going to be very successful.

1289
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 11: But he had to prove it.

1290
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 22: Now he's gonna get his money.

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Speaker 10: That's not the issue.

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Speaker 22: But now the pressure is going to be on him.

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 22: I do expect him to succeed, especially with Tomlin at

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Speaker 22: his side, and for him to be with the Steelers,

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Speaker 22: maybe make a deep run.

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Speaker 10: The pieces are there.

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Speaker 22: It's up to him right now. And at the end

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Speaker 22: of the day, I think he's gonna win about Peyton

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Speaker 22: because Peyton, I don't think he's gonna come through with

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01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 22: the Broncos. That's that's my feeling anyway.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's well, it's not trending well.

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Speaker 22: When we're seeing Bernie. Okay, did you see the fight

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01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 22: at Tientists in Grafido Womas?

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01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: I did, I did not. I gotta watch it on YouTube.

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01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, I gotta. I gotta do that.

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Speaker 3: But thanks for reminding me. All right, good work to you,

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: take care of and enjoy your weekend. Emmitt and Olympia.

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy?

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Speaker 23: What's going on?

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Speaker 24: Bernie?

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Speaker 14: How you doing?

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01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: Good man?

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01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 23: I just want to say, first of all, come out

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Speaker 23: on the nick saving stuff. I mean, college, these guys,

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Speaker 23: you know, all their time is in the football in school,

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01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:44,959
Speaker 23: like I feel like there's not a lot of time

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 23: for anything else. I mean, I wouldn't know, but like

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01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 23: school takes up all the time, and I know that,

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 23: so like football gonna take up even more time. They

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01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 23: don't have time to get a job. These like people

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 23: need money to like live, like it's expensive. Now I

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 23: get that they like the encourse meals but like the

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 23: campus meals. But still they're just let them have their money.

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01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 23: I mean they're basically getting like they're getting displayed on TV,

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 23: Like let them get some sort of revenue for us

1327
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 23: being able to go tune into their games and watch them.

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01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 23: So I think they should get the money for sure.

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01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 23: But under Russell Wilson, I mean it would take a

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Speaker 23: lot for him to lose this situation because he's getting paid,

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 23: like his whole contract from Denver for two years, and

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Speaker 23: he's getting another million to go to basically whatever.

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Speaker 10: Team he wants.

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Speaker 23: The Steeers have a great defense, a great coach. I

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01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 23: think Mike Tomlins great. I just think he's had to

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 23: kind of a bad luck past couple years.

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Speaker 10: A canny picket.

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Speaker 13: Also, And.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, because that defense is so elite, I mean that

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01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 23: defense is crazy. So like the other thing too, is

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 23: like Sean Payton is screwed like the Broncos. I don't

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 23: think they're going to be able to like do anything

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Speaker 23: in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 13: They don't have their quarterback.

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 23: Like their whole offense just got you know, shipped off

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 23: or signed away in free agency.

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01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: So they're in a long so you think Russell will

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Speaker 3: have the last last of course, all right, appreciate you,

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, and I got to get to these guys

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: that don't be a stranger and listen, I forget. The

1351
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: Chargers are going to be better. The Raiders are going

1352
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 3: to be better. And you got that what's the guy's name,

1353
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 3: Mahomes and Andy Reid. Yeah, they're they're looming as well.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Dylan in Washington joins us on the Bernie Frattles Shore

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Speaker 3: the midnight hour. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 24: I was going, Bernie, first time caller here, start listening.

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 24: You're still not that long ago, so super hips to

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 24: me on the show.

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Speaker 2: Good here to hear from you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: I've been listening a lot to the Russell Wilson talk.

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 24: And you know who's gonna get the last laugh. First

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 24: of all, Russell Wilson could go sit on the couch

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 24: tomorrow and get the last lap of his patient.

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Speaker 13: I mean he's getting paid.

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Speaker 3: No, he's thirty nine million next year.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've been a Seahawks fan in

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Speaker 24: Washington since i was eleven years old. I'm twenty three now,

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01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 24: and you know, he he's the type of player that

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Speaker 24: you know, he needs that defense. I mean, that's that

1372
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 24: was his bread and butter. You win and won the

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01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 24: Super Bowl, the legion of boom, and now he's back

1374
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 24: in that situation and that went on with a winning

1375
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 24: season with Kenny Pickett. I mean, come on, now, he's

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 24: gonna go out there. He's gonna do his thing. He's

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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 24: gonna clutch up. He doesn't have to sit there and

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Speaker 24: lead an offense, you know in Denver. I mean, he's

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 24: trying to overcome these crazy scores, getting blown out by

1380
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Speaker 24: Miami seventy to twenty all this. You know, he's gonna

1381
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 24: go out there and do his thing, de clutch, make

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01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 24: the play he's got to make and let the defense

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 24: win the game. And that's the type of quarterback that

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 24: Pittsburgh needs.

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Speaker 3: I'm in agreement. Any thoughts on Nick.

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Speaker 24: Saban, No, no thoughts on Nick Saban. But one more

1387
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 24: thing about Russ is working with Arthur Smith. You know, yes, yes,

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Speaker 24: if you were a fancy football manager last year and

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 24: you had any of those Falcons players. You know how

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 24: frustrating that was. But you know, again with Russ is

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 24: this guy likes to spread the ball around and Arthur

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Speaker 24: Smith was doing just that, and so I think I

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 24: think they're going to work really good together. You know,

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 24: Russ was making these crazy plays, the crazy people. I mean,

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Speaker 24: You've got Chris Matthews out there catching balls and then

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 24: all of a sudden disappeared. And so I think Arthur

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 24: Smith is really gonna utilize every single play on that

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01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 24: roster and it's going to be really good to run.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that. I mentioned that about an

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 3: hour ago, but thanks, And of course, Dylan, don't be

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: a stranger. We do this every Friday night. It's a

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 3: much better fit. It's a much better culture fit, it's

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01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 3: a much better scheme fit. I think Mike Tomlin and

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson will coexist nicely, and I think Arthur Smith

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01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 3: will four to five whatever gas in the tank. Russell

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 3: Wilson has Hank tight Dennis and Vermont, Adam and Utah,

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: Jerome and Charleston were getting to all of you tonight

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: on the Bernie Frattle Show as we chop it up,

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, who's going to have the last laugh? And

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 3: of course Nick Saban and his comments on give me

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: the money, Show me the money. All right, I'm Bernie Frattle.

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Speaker 3: We are coming to you live from Las Vegas, Fox

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 3: Sports Radio, Tireck dot com Studios. Do not go away

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01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: or listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 3: All right, back on the Bernie Fradle Our Show, Fox

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: Sports Radio Company, Lifter Tyrek dot Com studios here in

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, we continue on with the midnight outter of

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 3: Midnight Our Dennis and Vermon, thanks for hanging on.

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01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts tonight?

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01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 8: Hello? Can you hear me?

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 3: I can hear you? Dennis? Just fine?

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 9: Yes.

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 8: First of all, I want to say my favorite, uh bit,

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 8: Well I don't I don't want to call it a bit,

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 8: but what kind of fool of You? Is one of

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 8: my favorite.

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 3: We do at two am on Saturday night Pacific five

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 3: am Easter. Thanks, we got that to look forward to.

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: We got a doozy tomorrow night. What are your thoughts, Dennis?

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: I appreciate appreciate that a lot, pal. What are your

1431
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 3: thoughts on on either Nick Saban and or Russell Wilson.

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01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 8: So my thoughts perst of all, so we're going with capitalism, right,

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01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 8: these kids that are making millions, if not billions of dollars.

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01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: For the respective schools and TV and all that, yep,

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: and the NCAA.

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01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 8: I don't I don't see why there's a problem with

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 8: them getting paid. I just don't. I think if you

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 8: want to believe in capitalism, then it's it's a pre

1439
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 8: for all for everybody, and I think they should get paid.

1440
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 8: As far as Russell Wilson, I think he's getting a

1441
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 8: bad deal. As far as Denver, I mean, they really

1442
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 8: didn't have. Their team is terrible. I mean you know

1443
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 8: what I mean. I mean they had.

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,879
Speaker 2: Everything about it was terrible.

1445
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: The culture they.

1446
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: Stuck on both sides of the ball.

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01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean if you look at you look

1448
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 8: at his statistics, it really was pretty pretty good. And

1449
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 8: I think with you and Tomlin, I love Mike Tomlin,

1450
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 8: and I think between the two of them, I mean,

1451
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,520
Speaker 8: I'm a Jet fan, so I have my own problems,

1452
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 8: but I think Pittsburgh's going to do pretty well.

1453
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: Unfore fair enough, fair enough, And we're an agreement on

1454
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. I think he will do better than people

1455
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,480
Speaker 3: might realize, and he'll be surrounded by a better situation.

1456
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 3: Thanks for checking in, Dennis Adam in Utah, You're up next.

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts?

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 25: Hello, sir, So, I'm a gigantic fan of the show,

1459
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 25: but I'm a gigantic fan of college football and and

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 25: I'll see athletics in particular. So my question for you

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,839
Speaker 25: really is this so at Baton Rouge, the largest lawyer

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 25: in Baton Rugs, is the biggest donor of the athletic funds,

1463
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 25: a whole sponsor every sport. You know, man's am, woman's athletics.

1464
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 25: But what happens when you know, two years from now

1465
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 25: and he's giving you know, this quarterback money and the

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 25: backup quarterback money, and this recruit money and the volleyball

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 25: player of money. I mean, what happens when all that

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 25: drives up? I mean, isn't the college eventually going to

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 25: have to dish out some money? And how expensive is

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 25: college going to be? I mean, my brother went to

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Speaker 25: a private university that's seventy five thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 25: in the ACC.

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Speaker 11: I mean, is his school going to be ninety thousand?

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01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 25: I mean, where do we go from here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think good points, Adam, good critical thinking. Appreciate

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 3: you checking in tonight. Let me just say this, The

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 3: nil is so new, it's wild, wild west. This is

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 3: not what it was intended to be. It's morphed into

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: something completely different that it was intended to be. You

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: talk about that gentleman in Louisiana if he's not getting

1481
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: returned on his investment. Eventually, this is going to organically

1482
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: correct itself because various schools will start to back off,

1483
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 3: and you'll still get scholarships and still listen. The one

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 3: thing a college, the ideological purpose is to prepare you

1485
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: to go on in life. It gives you opportunity based

1486
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: on the initiative you take. The money is a relative

1487
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: recent thing because the TV money is so strong you

1488
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 3: can't just hold it anymore. However, it is gone. There

1489
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: are no guardrails. There are there, there are there are

1490
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,799
Speaker 3: no safety nets. And that's where you ask where's is headed.

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: We don't know, We don't know, but we know it's

1492
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 3: not really working right now. Everybody can kind of feel

1493
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 3: that when one of the greatest coaches in the game

1494
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: decides to leave and goes out the door complaining about

1495
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: the system.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Adam Jerome and Charleston.

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts tonight on these subjects Russell Wilson

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01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 3: and Nick Saban's comments.

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Speaker 9: I will never ever trust Russa Wilson ever again. After

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 9: they lost asthorable to the Pages on the one yard line,

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01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 9: the ball I'm looking at if that was me, I'm

1502
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 9: looking at the start line and say, hell no, we

1503
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 9: not for the ball. We're going to heavy jumble and

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 9: we're gonna run it down there through.

1505
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 18: It the one yard line.

1506
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 9: He's never been the shame part of Accince and I'll

1507
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 9: never trust him again. Tomlin's overrated. I don't care what

1508
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 9: team he goes to. He's not one of anymore Super Bowls.

1509
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 9: I'll never trust him. And as far as Nick Shaven

1510
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 9: in Alabama, I'm glad they lost to Michigan. Okay because

1511
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 9: the Zebras they got a series big time holds job

1512
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 9: of allarde.

1513
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yes, that was passing the s.

1514
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 9: And the gopin here here says, Oh, the Zebras are

1515
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 9: not going to make that call. What do you mean

1516
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 9: they're not going to make that call to when they

1517
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 9: lost you to our Michigan on the two yard line.

1518
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 9: You know, it's ironic how life works out. It's so ironic.

1519
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 9: So roadside with that tide, I'm so happy he lost.

1520
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 9: I was decided myself for a couple of weeks after

1521
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 9: that game. I said, you know, something's gonna happen. They

1522
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 9: got to get what's coming to them, and they finally

1523
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 9: And now I'm happy Jerome.

1524
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: Don't be a stranger. Love the enthusiasm. Of course, you

1525
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: know that Pete Carroll made that call back in Super

1526
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: Bowl fifty nine or forty nine or whatever the hell

1527
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 3: it was. We'll never forget that. Christ and Cincinnati. We

1528
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 3: just got about a minute. So if we run out

1529
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 3: of time, I'll take you after the top of the arbor.

1530
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: What do you got?

1531
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 26: I was just talking about running quarterbacks that can't throw

1532
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 26: in the NFL.

1533
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 13: That's all I'm talking about.

1534
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 26: The product. So didn't Tom Brady say the product?

1535
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: So the product?

1536
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,480
Speaker 3: And when you mean the product from an NFL text.

1537
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 26: What's a draft mean? Why don't we go to Canada

1538
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 26: or why don't we go to a different country? If

1539
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 26: always are going gets running quarterbacks that can't throw it,

1540
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 26: I don't want to see three running like the Baltimore.

1541
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 26: I want to see it throwing quarterback and throw the football,

1542
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 26: damn it.

1543
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

1544
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: Oh, well, certainly that if you cannot operate from the

1545
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 3: pocket in the NFL, you're not long for the league.

1546
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I like justin fields, But why do you

1547
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: think he's you know was ten and twenty eight, Chris.

1548
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I wish we had more time. Don't be

1549
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: a stranger of the midnight hour. A great job by

1550
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: all the callers. We are all over the map as usual.

1551
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: That's what makes this segment great. I like diverse opinions,

1552
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: and there are people that like Russell Wilson, there are

1553
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 3: people that don't. There are people that feel Sabing pulled

1554
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: to get off my lawn, and there are people that

1555
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: say this is out of control. Coming up after the

1556
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 3: top of the I want to hear the crew weigh

1557
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: in on this, and I'm gonna get to the running

1558
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 3: back situation as well. Keep it lock, Bernie Frattles Show,

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Speaker 3: houer of calls who will have the last laugh? Russell

1568
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 3: Wilson or Sean Payton and Nick Saban's comments. We have

1569
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 3: entered an era whereby I do think he's sincere It

1570
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: caused him to want to retire. But it's never black

1571
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 3: and white. There's always a gray area, and there are

1572
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 3: always two.

1573
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: Sides to the coin.

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01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 11: And I.

1575
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 3: Want to make sure we get the crew an opportunity

1576
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: to weigh in on this, because we're going to have.

1577
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: An opportunity to see. Let's start with Russell Wilson.

1578
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: They've been making fun of this guy a lot, and

1579
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 3: I think when you tell the story, you have to

1580
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 3: tell the whole story. He's a nine time pro bowler

1581
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 3: through twenty six touchdown passes last year. He wasn't nearly

1582
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 3: as bad as people think, but it wasn't a fit

1583
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 3: for multiple reasons. People are now rooting for him to fail.

1584
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: He's entering on culture. They won ten games last year,

1585
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 3: they got a defense, and I think they're going to

1586
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 3: pull the spotlight away from him. Kevin figures who's going

1587
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,480
Speaker 3: to have the last laught, Russell Wilson.

1588
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: Or Sean peyte Well.

1589
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 7: I just think based on the term of how this

1590
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 7: usually works when it comes to coaches and a player

1591
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 7: who's already been in the league for eleven twelve years,

1592
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 7: most likely Sean Payton, who's proven himself to be a

1593
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 7: bit of a programmed builder. They're going to have a

1594
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 7: tough go at it for at least one more season.

1595
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 7: But I do have confidence in him as a head

1596
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 7: coach and in an organization that they can turn things

1597
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 7: around and actually turn Denver back into a winner in

1598
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 7: the long term. In the short term, I think Russell

1599
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 7: Wilson is going to have a measure of success. What's

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 7: what the Pittsburgh Steelers, as you mentioned earlier in the show,

1601
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 7: is production was not terrible by any stretch last year.

1602
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 7: For as much guff as he took from people sixty

1603
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 7: seven percent completions almost four thousand yards, his touchdown interception

1604
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 7: ratio was good. So he's going to be a productive

1605
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 7: player playing for a team with the dominant defense, with

1606
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 7: the solid running game and a no nonsense head coach.

1607
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 7: The tough part is he's playing in a very difficult

1608
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 7: division like they did last year. Yes, they won ten games,

1609
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 7: but we know a lot of times these things aren't linear.

1610
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 7: Things can happen, injuries pop up. I do think Pittsburgh

1611
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 7: is going to be a competitive team. I think they

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01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 7: can make the postseason. Well they win a championship. That's

1613
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 7: a tough one for me to predict at this point.

1614
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 7: So in the short term I think it's going to

1615
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 7: be Russell Wilson. The short term being this upcoming season,

1616
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 7: I think Pittsburgh will be successful while Denver has a

1617
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 7: bit of an uphill climb. But long term, I do

1618
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 7: think Denver's going to end up coming out on the

1619
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 7: right side of this, even though they're eating a bunch

1620
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 7: of money this year, and end up being a winner.

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01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 3: It's an interesting take. I'm not so sure Sean Payton's

1622
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 3: going to be able to pull this off. They don't

1623
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: operate in a vacuum. I think hardball's going to have

1624
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 3: success in San Diego. They're going to be a much

1625
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 3: tougher route. As long as that what's that one guy's

1626
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 3: name Mahomes as long as he's very decent, he.

1627
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: Can play a little bit.

1628
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 3: And then, of course I actually think the Raiders defensively

1629
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 3: they're going to be much better. And you know, Gardner

1630
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 3: Minch's got a little junk in his on who's going to.

1631
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 2: Play quarterback for Denver?

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 7: Oh, I agree again this year, next year. I'm talking

1633
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,799
Speaker 7: extrapolating this out over the long time. Sure, so that's

1634
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 7: my thing. So I do think for if you're talking

1635
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 7: the next couple of seasons, three seasons, yeah, I think

1636
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson's probably gonna end up looking a lot rosier

1637
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 7: right now. But ultimately, if you're saying who's gonna end

1638
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 7: up winning out, I think Sean Payton is going to

1639
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 7: have a longer run of success in Denver, and it's

1640
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 7: going to be because they decided to cut Baita and

1641
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson when they decided to do it, and didn't

1642
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 7: decide to, you know, settle for the sunk cost fallacy

1643
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 7: of keeping them around because you're paying them so much.

1644
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it right here. Generalities Nick Saban's comments,

1645
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: what was your knee jerk reaction when you heard them?

1646
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I do think two things can be true

1647
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 4: to a certain degree.

1648
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 7: I do think players are less incentivized to want to

1649
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 7: tough it out and can compete because they know that

1650
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 7: the siren song of nil is calling their name at

1651
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 7: a different institution where they can start and maybe get

1652
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 7: more opportunities to a certain degree. But also, you know,

1653
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 7: first of all, we can't be hypocritical, and I think

1654
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 7: you brought this up as well, that players have been

1655
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 7: getting paid for years and years under the table, and

1656
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 7: now that's legitimate. So these guys feel as if they

1657
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 7: can come out publicly and speak out against it. You know,

1658
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 7: you look at the TV contracts for all of these conferences,

1659
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 7: the power for conferences, in addition to the upcoming contract

1660
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 7: for the college football Playoff, which has not fully been

1661
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 7: agreed to yet, but it's going to be somewhere close.

1662
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 7: So I think he's what seven eight billion dollars whatever

1663
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 7: it is. If you combine all the numbers, and I

1664
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 7: did this a little bit ago there, Bernie, it's going

1665
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 7: to be over twenty billion dollars in television revenue that

1666
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 7: these conferences are going to bring in combined. You're telling

1667
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 7: me that a small percentage of that can't go to

1668
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 7: the players, I mean, and a small percentage of that.

1669
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 4: We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars.

1670
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 7: So I'm not saying that every player on every team

1671
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 7: needs to make you know, fifty thousand dollars a year,

1672
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 7: but even a couple of thousand more than the stipend

1673
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 7: just as a baseline, and then they can make more

1674
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 7: on top of that when it comes to nil. I

1675
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 7: don't think that's an unreasonable ask, you know, when the

1676
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 7: TV contract and I forget the exact details, the full

1677
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 7: details of this Supreme Court case in nineteen eighty four

1678
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 7: or eighty five that basically allowed the individual conferences to

1679
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 7: regulate how much money they would make on TV revenue.

1680
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 7: The landscape is just so much different now than it

1681
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 7: was back then. Nobody anticipated that the money would be

1682
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 7: where it is now. And you're basically making billions of

1683
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 7: dollars off of the backs of these quote unquote amateur kids.

1684
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 7: We all know that it's an imperfect system. So yes,

1685
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 7: these kids are getting scholarships and the opportunity for education, absolutely,

1686
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 7: but there's no reason that the adults and these institutions

1687
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 7: can make billions of dollars while these kids basically make nothing,

1688
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 7: especially the ones the top of the level ones that

1689
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 7: the high level quarterbacks all that, but you can't diminish

1690
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 7: the importance of the other players on the teams as well.

1691
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 7: So I don't think it's an unreasonable ask to find

1692
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 7: some way, somehow to get this TV revenue into the

1693
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 7: hands of the kids who are the ones who are

1694
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 7: making all of the money for these institutions.

1695
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think anybody objects to that. The time

1696
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 3: has come to spread the wealth, as it were, in

1697
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 3: a more or uniform way. And yes, I think a

1698
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 3: scholarship means a lot. But at the same time, for

1699
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: the most part, when you consider the TV networks are

1700
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 3: pouring billions of dollars into the system, players should not

1701
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 3: have to continue on with a life of indentured servitude.

1702
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: It's time or I think maybe Nick Saban's remarks got

1703
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 3: a little bit lost were this He's concerned that when

1704
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 3: a player comes in and all these concerned about it

1705
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: is how much can you pay me? Is part of

1706
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: that developmental initiative that a player wants to undertake. And

1707
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 3: you go into the program just as a high school kid,

1708
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: you come out as a man. You're ready to negotiate life.

1709
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: If you're not one of the one percent of the

1710
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 3: people who make it to the NFL. I think that's

1711
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: where perhaps it got a little foggy, and that people

1712
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 3: may have misconstrued that Saban doesn't want the kids making money.

1713
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 3: I think he's concerned the pendulum has swung too far.

1714
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: You got the last word, Kevin.

1715
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's right about that.

1716
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 7: And I think one of your callers, you know, brought

1717
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 7: up an excellent point two that you know, we're so

1718
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 7: in the infancy stages of nil in this current form.

1719
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 7: You know, eventually the market, I do believe, will correct itself,

1720
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 7: and that eventually all of these boosters and all of

1721
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 7: these millionaires who are pouring all this money into these

1722
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 7: programs to kids sight unseen because they happen to be

1723
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 7: the top recruit in the country and they have no

1724
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 7: idea how good they may actually may or may not be.

1725
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 7: You realize that that's just not not bearing fruit for

1726
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 7: you. You might end up start pulling back the amount of

1727
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 7: money or be more measured with the investments that you make,

1728
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 7: and that in turn might disincentivize kids were saying, look,

1729
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 7: give me all this money. Well, the school is like,

1730
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 7: I'm not giving you all that money, you know, find

1731
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 7: somebody else will be willing to do it, and if

1732
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 7: the money drives up, they'll end up having to revert

1733
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 7: back to well, maybe I'll just go to the best

1734
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 7: program for me to get the most exposure, and then

1735
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 7: if I play well for a year or two, I'll

1736
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 7: end up earning that as opposed to asking for it

1737
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 7: up front. So I do think that's something that bears

1738
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 7: monitoring over the next couple of years.

1739
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was essentially my thought that if you look

1740
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 3: at the Texas A and M model, it hasn't worked

1741
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,440
Speaker 3: because they're not winning enough games, they're not winning conference championships,

1742
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 3: they're not getting to the playoffs. And that amplified program

1743
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 3: that Texas A and M and their collectors and their

1744
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: boosters came up with that I've talked about on my

1745
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 3: show that raised thirty million dollars and created classrooms and

1746
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 3: marketing programs and branding. It was perfect, and yet guess what,

1747
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 3: it didn't net results on the field. So I do

1748
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 3: think we're going to see an organic writing of the ship,

1749
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: as it were, for lack of a better term, Ian Roddy,

1750
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 3: Let's start with Russell Wilson, who's going to have the

1751
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 3: last laugh next year. Let's say we've got to take

1752
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: this one year at a time. Denver or Pittsburgh and Russell.

1753
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 27: I mean, I think one of the callers brought it up,

1754
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 27: like Russell Wilson wins no matter what because of that

1755
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 27: dead cap hit, the fact that he isn't even going

1756
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 27: to be on the Broncos roster the next few years

1757
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 27: and he's going to be making eighty five million dollars

1758
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 27: from them. He wins, you know, like it doesn't it

1759
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 27: doesn't matter how many other facts there are involved. That

1760
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 27: that's a win in my book for Russell.

1761
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 3: Will you do you think, just to be fair, Denver

1762
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 3: got out of the thirty seven million by cutting him

1763
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: before March fifteenth, but he's going to collect thirty nine million.

1764
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 3: But think about it from this standpoint, his legacy is

1765
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 3: at stake here, his legacy. He's gone from a guy

1766
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: who was going to get Hall of Fame votes and

1767
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 3: might have made it to now looking as an ulcer round.

1768
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I think when I mean, who's and you're not wrong

1769
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 3: and neither was the caller when it comes to his

1770
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 3: legacy and or the success he has on the field,

1771
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 3: and people remember what you did last more than anything else.

1772
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 3: What have he done for me lately? Who is going

1773
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 3: to have the last laugh? Sean Payton. He got to

1774
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 3: one Super Bowl with Drew Brees, but outside of that,

1775
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,919
Speaker 3: his record's not great. It's good, but not great. Meanwhile,

1776
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson or a decade removed from the infamous play

1777
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 3: the caller talked about. So when it comes to legacy

1778
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 3: and reputation, who's going to have the last laugh?

1779
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1780
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 27: I mean in the short term, I would say Russell

1781
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 27: Wilson because the Steelers are a good team, and you know,

1782
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 27: it's if Mike Tomlin can can put up the season

1783
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 27: that he had last year with Kenny Pickett, he's gonna

1784
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,799
Speaker 27: do better with Russell Wilson. I have some concerns about

1785
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 27: Russell in that system, because you know, it's kind of

1786
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 27: a common, really known thing about him now is that

1787
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,799
Speaker 27: he struggles to throw over the middle of the field,

1788
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 27: and they have George Pickens there. He's a great guy

1789
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 27: on the outside, and I think he's actually gonna be

1790
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 27: fed there, you know, for people interested in fantasy football stuff,

1791
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 27: George Pickens. But over the middle of the field. They

1792
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 27: just got rid of Deontay Johnson. Who was kind of

1793
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 27: their guy for that.

1794
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1795
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 27: I think I think there's gonna be a lot to

1796
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 27: be desired there.

1797
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about Saban.

1798
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 27: Sound Yeah, he's a hypocrite. I mean, but that being said,

1799
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 27: I don't disagree with what he's saying. It's just that

1800
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 27: he isn't the specific guy who should be complaining about it.

1801
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 27: It's because he's he's rich. He had an eleven million

1802
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 27: dollar contract. Yes, you really feel so strongly about it,

1803
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 27: donate some of that money. I don't know if there's

1804
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 27: rules against that. There probably are, but look, the point

1805
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 27: is if he felt so strongly about this, he'd be

1806
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 27: taking a smaller contract himself. It's it's it's not wrong

1807
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 27: what he's saying, it's just that he is far from

1808
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 27: the person that's interesting.

1809
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 3: It was a little idealistic, because coaching is teaching. Your

1810
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 3: best coaches are teachers, and at his heart, Nick Saban

1811
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 3: is an exquisite teacher. But or I think he may

1812
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: have missed is I say it respectfully? Is just because

1813
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 3: the player is asking for money, which is right, doesn't

1814
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 3: mean you still can't. It doesn't circumvent the developmental process

1815
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 3: and you want to get on the field. You want

1816
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 3: to play, you want to have success. You don't want

1817
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 3: to sit on the bench, so you've got to engage

1818
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: in the process. I don't understand why you can't do both.

1819
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 3: And if I could ask Nick Saban one question right now,

1820
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: I'd say, why can't you have both? You didn't address

1821
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 3: that situation. The two are not mutually excluded. You don't

1822
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 3: come to school and say, hey, what are you gonna

1823
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 3: pay me? I'll come to Alabama. Oh, by the way,

1824
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna work hard. I just want the money.

1825
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 3: That's not registering with me. Speaking of money, coming up,

1826
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the running backs. A bunch

1827
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: of them signed contracts this year. I've never once bought

1828
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 3: into this Bolognian narrative that running backs are devalued. What

1829
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 3: has happened in the National Football League is the game

1830
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 3: has become basketball on turf. You put your athletes in

1831
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 3: space to make a play, spread the field, you win

1832
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 3: your one on one battles. The quarterbacks more ultra important.

1833
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 3: The problem is, it's not that running backs aren't valuable.

1834
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 3: They're very valuable, but they're interchangeable. You don't believe me, then,

1835
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 3: how in the hell did the Chiefs win back to

1836
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 3: back champions with a running back who was drafted seventh

1837
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 3: round Auto Rutgers. We're gonna chop this up coming up

1838
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna sort the poop from the manure and

1839
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 3: set the record straight on this bolooney. Get ready to

1840
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,120
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01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,160
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1847
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1848
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:16,599
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1849
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,320
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1850
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 3: All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

1851
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 3: coming your live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

1852
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,839
Speaker 2: Take up to two am Eastern, five am Pacific.

1853
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 3: Course back on these airwaves eleven pm Pacific on Saturday Night.

1854
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 3: Will dive heavily into March Madness and the storylines to

1855
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 3: look forward to, as will be on the eve of

1856
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 3: selection Sunday. I want to put in my final two

1857
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 3: cents on the running backs. I talked about this before.

1858
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 3: I am sick and tired of hearing at running backstor

1859
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 3: to value.

1860
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 2: No, they're not.

1861
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 3: They're just simply interchangeable. There are still very important cogs

1862
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 3: and most NFL offenses, but running backs now are largely

1863
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 3: viewed as replaceable parts. With this short shelf life, you

1864
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 3: don't need to overpay eighty four. Okay, Look, just four

1865
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 3: running backs had been selected to the first round of

1866
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 3: the past four drafts. Isaiah Pacheco. Two hundred and fifty

1867
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 3: players were selected before Isaiah Pacheco was picked out of

1868
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 3: Rutgers a couple of years back. He's been a key

1869
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 3: cog in helping lead the the A Chiefs to back

1870
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 3: to back Super Bowls. You've heard these guys complain when

1871
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 3: no one wants to pay us. Look, Saquon Barkley just

1872
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 3: got a three year deal total thirty seven million heading

1873
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 3: into before last season. You know what Saquon Barkley's career

1874
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 3: earnings were for one and ninety four thousand. Then he

1875
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 3: got paid last year a one year deal for eleven

1876
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna be up around eighty or ninety million, which

1877
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 3: was we just take up a collection plate. Do you

1878
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 3: feel that bad? Dalvin Cook, remember him before last year,

1879
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: and he's worked last year and he's working next year,

1880
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 3: thirty nine point one million in his career. How about

1881
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 3: Ezekiel Elliott forgotten man tried seventy one million. Josh Jacobs

1882
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: has got four years forty eight million, Derrick Henry two

1883
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 3: years sixty million, Tony Pollard three years twenty four. That's

1884
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 3: not good enough for you. I just you just heard

1885
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 3: me say. The National Football League has very much evolved.

1886
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 3: The game has become basketball on turf. You put your

1887
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:24,440
Speaker 3: athletes in space to make a play, you spread the field.

1888
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: You win your one on one battles. As such.

1889
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: The position that's incredibly important more than ever, the quarterback.

1890
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 3: They're ultra important. They're not so easily replaceable running backs are.

1891
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 3: It's not that they're not important, as that. We're finding

1892
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 3: out now you could take a first round guy and

1893
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 3: replace it with a seventh round guy and your production

1894
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 3: doesn't fall off nearly as far as you might have

1895
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 3: thought it would. You know, a couple of years ago,

1896
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 3: Buffalo decided to run their whole offense through Josh Allen,

1897
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 3: and I know they can't get to the super Bowl.

1898
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 3: They just can't get Bass Cans City. And you know

1899
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 3: Devin Singletary, he signed a one year date with the

1900
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 3: Houston Texans. He became an accessory. Then they draft James

1901
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 3: Cook in the second round, but he didn't They don't

1902
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 3: need him to be a heavy volume back. Now Aaron Jones,

1903
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 3: who they just sent packing, I thought did an excellent

1904
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: job in Green Bay. Right, they bring in a new

1905
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:19,799
Speaker 3: guy now.

1906
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys.

1907
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 3: They drafted Ezekiel Elliott with a fourth pick in the

1908
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen draft. They wrote him like a rented mule.

1909
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 3: He averaged twenty one carries a game his first four seasons,

1910
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 3: but he got paid seventy one million dollars. How many

1911
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 3: Super Bowls has Dallas won? You don't build you don't

1912
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 3: build your roster around a running back anymore. The game,

1913
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 3: You know, linebackers run like defensive backs did twenty years ago.

1914
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: Defensive ends now run like linebackers did ten years ago.

1915
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 3: Just one team, the Dallas Cowboys, used more than eight

1916
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 3: percent of their twenty twenty two salary caps based on

1917
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 3: running backs. How did it work out for them? The Chiefs?

1918
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 3: The back to back Super Bowl Chiefs have used just

1919
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 3: one point five percent of their caps based on running backs.

1920
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 3: The year before the Chiefs opponent in Super Bowl, the

1921
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 3: Eagles used two point three percent. Now, twenty five veteran

1922
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 3: running backs heading into this year were signed at the

1923
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 3: start of free agency. Twelve of them signed one year deals.

1924
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 3: You may not like that, but the truth of the

1925
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 3: matter is there is a supply and demand issue that

1926
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily favor running backs. A former NFL executive by

1927
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: the name of Joe Banner again, he even said, I

1928
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 3: don't think that running backs have necessarily been devalued. He

1929
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 3: just thought there's an imbalance to supply and demand at

1930
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 3: the position and there's no real need to overpay for

1931
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 3: running backs. Now, he's never spoken to a running back

1932
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 3: who didn't think that. Check that he went out to say,

1933
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 3: he's never spoken to a general man manager who didn't

1934
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 3: think running backs were not important.

1935
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 2: But he's never.

1936
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 3: Spoken to a general manager who thought running backs were

1937
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 3: ultra important, meaning you can get them in the second

1938
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 3: round or the third round, or fifth round or seventh round.

1939
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 3: And so if you are are in the camp that

1940
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 3: there's this conspiracy, okay, they're running backs are getting screwed.

1941
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 3: They lose Again, there's not a conspiracy, all right, year

1942
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 3: after year, trend after trend, we see it. How many

1943
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: times do you have to see the ultimate downward spiral?

1944
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 3: In the NFL? The value running backs not like quarterbacks.

1945
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 3: They're valuable their most viable during the rookie deals, when

1946
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 3: salaries are low and the production is higher, But unlike quarterbacks,

1947
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 3: the position is so physically demanding that they rarely make

1948
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 3: it to their second or third contracts, but they're still

1949
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 3: getting paid again relative I get it. If you want

1950
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 3: to find life some fair, you're gonna find the life's unfair.

1951
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 3: If you are insistent on playing the victim, you're going to.

1952
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 3: But I think by all measure, other than maybe Tiki Barber,

1953
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 3: I don't hear people saying bad things about Saquon Barkley.

1954
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 3: I will say this, though you just got a three

1955
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 3: year deal. I'll put the over under on the games

1956
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 3: he plays in the next three years, and I'm not

1957
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 3: wishing it on him past his prologue to your own research.

1958
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 3: How many games here to Saquon Barkley, Miss, I predict

1959
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 3: he'll play a total of twenty seven games in the

1960
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 3: next three years, and he's gonna get thirty seven million dollars. Watch,

1961
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 3: and I like Saquon Barkley and I have nothing to bad.

1962
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 3: I have nothing bad to say about him. This is reality.

1963
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 3: There are objective truths, and they're our personal feelings. I

1964
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 3: don't have an agenda here. I'll calling it as I see.

1965
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 3: When you have a seventh round running back that helps

1966
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 3: lead their team to back to back Super Bowls, that

1967
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 3: tells you right now running backs are valuable, but they're interchangeable.

1968
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, he's going to Green Bay now to take

1969
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 3: over for Aaron Jones, who did a hell of a job.

1970
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 3: He got four years, forty eight million dollars. He did

1971
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 3: a hell of a job.

1972
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: Of the Raiders. What did get him? What did it

1973
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 2: get him?

1974
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry he signed with Baltimore, which I think is

1975
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 3: maybe one of the shrewdest shrewdest free agency moves of

1976
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 3: the entire free agency deal.

1977
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: Put two and two together. The Ravens.

1978
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 3: They have not necessarily spent big money money at running

1979
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 3: back in the past, business and marriage. That makes sense. JK.

1980
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 3: Dobbins and Gus Edwards are both free agents. The Ravens

1981
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 3: could use a hard, physical running back. They got it right.

1982
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 3: They like to go forward on fourth and short. They

1983
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 3: didn't do it much last year. He is going to

1984
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 3: help Lamar Jackson, meaning Derrick Henry a lot. He's gonna

1985
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 3: help Lamar Jackson's ability to attract defensive attention, and that's

1986
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 3: going to recharge Derrick Henry's numbers. That's a fit. What

1987
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 3: are they paying Derrick Henry two years sixteen million? Would

1988
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 3: he maybe want more? Might he be worth more?

1989
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 2: Okay?

1990
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 3: People at hell on ice water, knock yourself out. There

1991
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 3: are plenty of other guys out there. Zach Moss Cincinnati

1992
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 3: Bengals two years eight million. Okay, maybe he would like more.

1993
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Look, there is a supplying

1994
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 3: demand issue. There's a situation where if a guy goes down,

1995
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 3: you have.

1996
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 2: Seen it more than once. They're they're replaceable.

1997
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 3: They're interchangeable, more so the quarterbacks, more so than wide receivers,

1998
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 3: more so than tight ends, more so than edge rushers.

1999
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 3: It's not that they're not valuable, it's the game has

2000
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 3: become basketball on turf. This is a I promise you,

2001
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 3: this is going to be a top and we're going

2002
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 3: to continue on coming up Christopherfet's World of Soccer.

2003
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 2: But first just go back to our guy, Kevin Figures

2004
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 2: with the latest.

2005
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 7: Okay Bernie and In College Basketball Conference Tournament action Friday night,

2006
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,799
Speaker 7: we had Colorado upsetting number twenty two Washington State fifty

2007
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 7: eight to fifty two, advancing to the Back twelve championship

2008
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 7: game where they will face Oregon, who upset number six Arizona.

2009
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 4: Earlier in the day. NC State DEFEATA Virginia in.

2010
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 7: Over time, while North Carolina beat Pittsburgh in the semi

2011
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 7: finals of the ACC Big Twel's semi final victories for

2012
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 7: Houston and Iowa State in the SEC, Mississippi State mollywop

2013
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 7: Tennessee seventy three to fifty six, while Texas A and

2014
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 7: M upset Kentucky by ten. Tristan Newton scored twenty five points,

2015
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 7: leading second ranked Yukon over Saint John's, setting up a

2016
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 7: Big East title matchup against tenth ranked Marquette, who picked

2017
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 7: up a victory over Providence and the NBA. Nicola Jokic

2018
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 7: scored thirty one points, leading Denver to Way one seventeen

2019
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 7: to one oh six victory over San Antonio. Peblicans have

2020
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 7: won five of six. They defeated the Clippers one twelve

2021
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 7: to one oh four. Devin Booker twenty one points and

2022
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 7: eleven assists to lead Phoenix over Charlotte and Golf second

2023
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 7: round at the Players Championship Wyndham Clark shot seven under

2024
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 7: for the round. He has a four stroke lead over

2025
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 7: Nick Taylor and Xander Shoftley.

2026
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 4: Back to Bernie, Freddo, All.

2027
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 3: Right, thanks, Kevin, did job, buddy. All right, here we are.

2028
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 3: We're four months away from the Paris Olympics. International soccer

2029
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 3: will be taking center stage, but it already has. But

2030
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, whether it's on the field, off the field,

2031
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 3: in season or off season, there are always plentiest stories

2032
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 3: surrounding Well, they call it football around the world. We

2033
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 3: call it soccer, and we call our segment Chris Raffetts

2034
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 3: World of Soccer.

2035
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 6: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama at

2036
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 6: the end of.

2037
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: The It's all here in this report from the world

2038
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 1: of soccer.

2039
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 28: Wonderful and fascinating stuff happening this week in the world

2040
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 28: of soccer.

2041
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 2: Bernie.

2042
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,839
Speaker 28: We're going to get to the biggest story that involves

2043
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 28: finances here in a second, and indeed the future of

2044
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 28: the sport as it exists currently in England with the

2045
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 28: Premier League and in the rest of their table with

2046
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 28: the English Football League and a deal that fell through,

2047
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 28: but I want to start with the Champions League as

2048
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,759
Speaker 28: I want to do the Champions League when they're playing

2049
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 28: their their knockout round. It's some of my favorite soccer

2050
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 28: in the world right now. Arsenal advances thanks to penalty kicks.

2051
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 28: A one zero win over Porto on Tuesday left them

2052
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 28: tied on aggregate, so they went to penalty kicks. Same

2053
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 28: thing happened with Atlettico Madrid and Internazional. Atletico advances three

2054
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 28: to two on penalties. They were able to rally from

2055
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 28: a one goal deficit on their first leg with a.

2056
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 4: Two to one game. Really fun stuff.

2057
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 28: Very sad to see Internazenol bomb out, however, at Lettico

2058
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 28: plenty of fun to have.

2059
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 4: Arsenal great to see them move forward.

2060
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 28: This is one year for them that I think they

2061
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 28: should really be cherishing with a lot of their great

2062
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 28: players they have. The real bout to the day was

2063
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 28: Barcelona three to one, advancing over Napoli four two. Is

2064
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 28: the aggregate again kind of part of the fall of

2065
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 28: Napoli this year after going all in and winning the

2066
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 28: Italian Seria last seas.

2067
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 4: In spite of these losses for the big Italian clubs.

2068
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 28: Their FIFA coefficient is still very good in a lot

2069
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 28: of Italian clubs in the Europa League and the Conference

2070
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 28: Europa Conference remain in contest and it keeps bumming up

2071
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 28: the coefficient.

2072
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 4: Why's the coefficient important?

2073
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 28: Means next year they'll get another guaranteed champion spot for

2074
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 28: Italian clubs and that leads us to the last one

2075
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 28: who advances Borussia Dortmund to nil over Eindovin. So that

2076
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 28: leads us to a very star studded quarter finals we

2077
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 28: are heading to right here, with Atletico Dortmund, Arsenal, Barcelona,

2078
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 28: Real Madrid, Manchester City already through, along with Bayern Munich

2079
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 28: and Paris Saint Germain really the cream of the crop

2080
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 28: as we are now down to the Elite eight of

2081
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 28: the Champions League. But what's really become a story this

2082
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 28: week over in England, over in the UK, has been

2083
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 28: the fallout from Premier leage clubs shooting down a deal

2084
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 28: with the English Football League. It would have been to

2085
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 28: the tune of about nine hundred million British pounds, the

2086
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,600
Speaker 28: idea being that the premier leagues would help to subsidize

2087
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 28: the EFL clubs and continue to help the lower tiers

2088
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 28: of English soccer. It was shot down by about ten

2089
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 28: top flight sides met on Monday. They tried to have

2090
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 28: a vote vote, but the vote didn't even take place.

2091
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 28: Ten clubs instead shot down the very proposal of even

2092
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 28: having a vote, leaving the entire deal in the lurch. Now,

2093
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 28: let's step back a second. Why is this money important?

2094
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 28: Why should the Premier League clubs be subsidizing the rest

2095
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 28: of the EFL. Well, this is part of an ongoing

2096
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 28: story about the health of the game in England, which

2097
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 28: houses so many clubs at so many levels. It's what

2098
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 28: makes the sport over there so incredibly special that you

2099
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 28: can have a story like we saw with Ffax's Welcome

2100
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 28: to Wrexham, of a club like Wrexham in the National

2101
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 28: League being able to eventually.

2102
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 4: Make its way up.

2103
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 28: It's the livelihood of so many local communities which have

2104
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 28: a big importance in England in the UK. And really

2105
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 28: you have to wind back the clock now about five

2106
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 28: years ago when a collapse of a club called Bury.

2107
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 28: They were expelled from the EFL after they were in

2108
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 28: League One and they went and bussed amid financial mismanagement,

2109
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 28: and it had come on the heels of what we've

2110
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 28: just seen. The Premier League makes more and more and

2111
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 28: more money every year and the EFL clubs really don't

2112
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 28: see a lot of it, even though even though a

2113
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 28: lot of the talent and promotion, relegation and everything else

2114
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 28: that the Premier League enjoys depends upon the health of

2115
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 28: the English Football League. It is a problem of inequality

2116
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 28: in a country in its greatest clubs, and because these

2117
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 28: clubs are part of their own ecosystem together, it's really

2118
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 28: hard to argue that the premier clubs should just be

2119
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 28: allowed to do whatever they want. It's their money, they

2120
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 28: should be allowed to keep it. They would be made

2121
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 28: very much so, very impoverished by seeing a lot of

2122
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 28: their ecosystem get the legs taken out from under it.

2123
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 28: And pressure remains on fans in England in the Premier

2124
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 28: League and the EFL want to see the EFL support

2125
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 28: and they want to see that. They had a fan

2126
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 28: led review in twenty twenty one that looked into the

2127
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 28: findings of how badly some lower end clubs were being

2128
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 28: run and where their finances were going. How very close

2129
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 28: some clubs like Macclesfield, Derby and Wigan had all been

2130
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 28: on the verge of insolvency, and now there is pressure

2131
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 28: both in the both among fans and in the UK

2132
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 28: government itself for things like an independent football regulator what

2133
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 28: we call over here footballs are with the power to

2134
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 28: impose financial settlement on football. There's been pressure to just

2135
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 28: make sure the Premier leaguees pays their fair share of

2136
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 28: the system that they benefit from. However, there is no

2137
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 28: deal and now it's left every side scrambling in a

2138
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 28: big way and it could really impacts the EFL for

2139
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 28: years to come. And if it impacts the EFL, it

2140
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 28: won't be before long before it impacts the Premier League

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Speaker 28: as well, because while the Premier League has all the money,

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Speaker 28: they subsist upon this ecosystem where they need to share it. However,

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Speaker 28: it's part of another problem in the Premier League too,

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Speaker 28: and that clubs just don't seem to really be able

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Speaker 28: to agree with one another anymore, both about the money

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Speaker 28: and about just in general how the sports should be run.

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Speaker 28: After all, there was the points deduction that Everton had suffered,

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Speaker 28: and at the same time Everton is crying foul over

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Speaker 28: one infraction. Where you can look at a club like

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Speaker 28: say Manchester City that is being accused of hundreds of

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Speaker 28: infractions and they're not seeing any punishment.

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Speaker 4: Where is the fair answer here? And can these clubs even.

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Speaker 28: Work together or will Much like college football in recent years,

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Speaker 28: greed divide them, fracture a lot of the associations that

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Speaker 28: maybe and may even very well en danger the domestic

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Speaker 28: league that we have come to associate in America with

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Speaker 28: the top flight of European football because many people every

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Speaker 28: morning get up and turn on at the NBC channels

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Speaker 28: and get on Peacock to watch the Premier League. It

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Speaker 28: has become a product that has been pushed around the

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Speaker 28: globe and they've done very well at it. But as

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Speaker 28: there's more money rolling in the greed multiplies, Bernie, we

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Speaker 28: also have this week the US men's national team back

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Speaker 28: in action. It's the semi finals of the CONCA calf

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Speaker 28: Champions League hosting Jamaica. Reminder again, the top nations in

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Speaker 28: the CONCA Calf Nations League are going to be handed

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Speaker 28: invites to Copa America, the contest held in between years

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Speaker 28: of the World Cup, nominally between the South American countries,

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Speaker 28: but this year, as the contest is being held in

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Speaker 28: North America, CONCA Calf North American region will send some

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Speaker 28: of their top teams to this competition, and for the

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Speaker 28: United States, it is a chance for them to win

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Speaker 28: a very prestigious or at least compete in a very

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Speaker 28: prestigious contest. Now, the USA has always punched, already punched

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Speaker 28: their ticket to COPA America. However, it is safe to

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Speaker 28: say that getting a nation's league title on top of

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Speaker 28: it is a good way to kick off the festivities.

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Speaker 28: Enjoy the weekend, Bernie, and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 28: In the world of soccer.

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Speaker 3: Plenty to talk about the world of soccer across the

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Speaker 3: United States and certainly around the globe, and it's only

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Speaker 3: going to increase is we are beginning to countdown toward

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Speaker 3: the Summer Olympics in Paris, and we'll see, of course,

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Speaker 3: how the women's team will do, most notably coming up,

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Speaker 3: we wrap up the show and I'll preview Saturday Night show.

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Speaker 3: And i gotta tell you, if you are an Auburn fan,

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Speaker 3: Auburn basketball fan particularly, or you're a Bruce Pearl fan,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you an additional reason to root

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Speaker 3: for Auburn this year. You're going to love this story.

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Speaker 3: And it's seven years in the making. I'm Bernie Fraddle.

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Speaker 3: We're coming to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Tirat dot com studios. Keep it locked right here.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

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Speaker 3: Frattle Show, coming to you live from the tyrack dot

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Speaker 3: com studios here in Las Vegas. Before going any further tonight,

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Speaker 3: I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: They've of course been with me on the air since

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Speaker 3: eleven pm Pacific on Friday night. Mark Ramsey on all

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Speaker 3: the update or check that Mark Ramsey, our technical producer,

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Speaker 3: a great job, Kevin figures a great job on all

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Speaker 3: the updates in the commentary, and of course Ian Roddy,

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Speaker 3: our executive producer. Great job manning the phones tonight. Tons

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Speaker 3: of calls Walda Wall the Midnight our excellent job by

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Speaker 3: the callers, Lots of good thoughts on the Nick Saban situation.

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Speaker 3: On the Nick Saban nil situation, essentially by his words,

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Speaker 3: not ours, pushed him into retirement. And he's you know,

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Speaker 3: how do you react? All kids want to knows what

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get paid, And so he therefore the development

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Speaker 3: takes a backseat. I threw a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: flag on that because I think there is a happy medium,

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Speaker 3: and then the two aren't mutually exclusive. And then, of

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Speaker 3: course Russell Wilson. Who's going to have the last laugh?

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Speaker 3: Is it going to be Sean Payton or Russell Wilson. Personally,

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Russell Wilson. I think that

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Speaker 3: he will have success in Pittsburgh. His new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith. They're going to find a way to run

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Speaker 3: the ball and set up for us for play action.

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Speaker 3: And you know, he doesn't get hurt a lot. He

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Speaker 3: only through eight picks last year against twenty six touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: People are rooting for him to fail. Well, they don't

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Speaker 3: like the act. It didn't play in Denver. It was

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Speaker 3: never a fit between him and Sean Payton. Got a

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Speaker 3: funny feeling that we'll see Pittsburgh won ten games last

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Speaker 3: year and they need to defix the quarterback situation, and

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Speaker 3: they wanted a bridge. And it's a good deal. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the veteran's minimum a million dollars, my goodness, so that

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01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 3: you have that, and so a great job by the guys,

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Speaker 3: certainly as far As and the callers hitting all angles.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that like Nick Nick Saban,

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Speaker 3: he's you know, maybe the game's passed him up. Not true.

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Speaker 3: But the other part of the issue, I think is

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Speaker 3: that people are asking themselves, well, how can we continue

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Speaker 3: on with what we had before? When networks are putting billions,

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Speaker 3: you know, millions, billions of dollars into college athletics, it's

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Speaker 3: got to trickle down to the players. The problem is

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Speaker 3: it's the nil is now evolved into exactly what they

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Speaker 3: said it wouldn't be. It was supposed to be. You

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Speaker 3: go school, you make a name for yourself, the local

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Speaker 3: car dealership, you know, Pepsi Cola, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 3: You get yourself a nice sponsorship. And he makes a

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Speaker 3: nice point. Not just this willy nilly wild West free

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Speaker 3: for all. I want to go to the highest bidder,

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01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 3: free agency. That's what it's become. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: to organically correct itself. We'll see these are going to

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Speaker 3: be continued talking points. And when college loses its greatest

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 3: coach of all time, it causes you to pass. But

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Speaker 3: there are two sides here, and again we'll the Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson thing will continue. All right, we are good goodness

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Speaker 3: with thirty eight hours or so, thirty seven hours from

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Speaker 3: selection Sunday, which is everybody's favorite time of the year.

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Speaker 3: And of course, as I've reminded you throughout the show,

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Speaker 3: get ready to complete your bracket. On March seventeen. For

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge, to visit Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com to register and get the rules. You could

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Speaker 3: win the Ultimate College Sports Trip with Graduate Hotels Challenged

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Speaker 3: sponsored by Tractor Supply and Graduate and Hotels. Were college

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Speaker 3: fans stay we hear in details about that all weekend.

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Speaker 3: You'll have a chance to compete and fill out your bracket.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of brackets, I bet we've got one or two

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Speaker 3: Auburn fans out there. We had a caller from Alabama tonight.

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Speaker 3: How about Auburn Alabama? Now, whether or not you like

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Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl, he wins. He's a guy that's got multiple personalities.

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01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 3: He is often seen sneering and snarling his way through games.

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01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 3: He is a high intensity guy. He's a very opinionated guy,

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Speaker 3: but he produces results. But there's a gentleman by the

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Speaker 3: name of Sam Cunningham that has only one view of

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Speaker 3: Bruce Pearl, and that is he's an incredibly nice person.

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Speaker 3: He's an incredibly loving person, He's an incredibly caring person.

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Speaker 3: That is the side that Sam Cunningham sees of Bruce

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Speaker 3: Pearl outside of basketball. And there is where the story begins.

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Speaker 3: Back in two twenty seventeen, a twelve year old boy

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Speaker 3: by the name of Sam Cunningham was diagnosed with leukemia

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Speaker 3: and somewhere along the line that got to Bruce Pearl,

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Speaker 3: and somebody says, could you please record a video for

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Speaker 3: this young man to pump up his spirits? And Bruce

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Speaker 3: Pearl went on to record a legendary video. It's become epic.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, you're gonna beat this sun. Cancer picked

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Speaker 3: the wrong ombre. They picked the wrong dude to mess

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Speaker 3: with you, Okay, And for some reason, that stuck. Ombre stuck.

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Speaker 3: It made him laugh, It picked up his spirits. Cunningham

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Speaker 3: said that quote, cancer picked the wrong ombrey, picked the

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Speaker 3: wrong dude to mess with even at twelve years old.

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Speaker 3: Sam Cunningham said, that's the quote I kept with me

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Speaker 3: when I was facing my darkest days and I was

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01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 3: in the hospital. He never knew this was going to go.

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01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 3: They're all the complications and the relapses, and through many

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01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 3: days where Sam, by his own admission, felt like it

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Speaker 3: would be his last cam. Sam kept watching that video

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Speaker 3: over and over and over. Eventually, Bruce Pearl visited him

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Speaker 3: in person. They became friends, and then he said, I'll

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01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 3: tell you what, You're gonna get better. You're gonna come

2293
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 3: to Auburn and you're gonna be my assistant. He took

2294
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Speaker 3: him at his word. Sam Cunningham cancer free March of

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01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. He's a freshman at Auburn today. He

2296
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 3: is the team manager, and he's so happy to be there.

2297
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 3: He says Pearl's encouragement may have saved his life. Another

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Speaker 3: reason it may be rooted for Auburn and Bruce Curl

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01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 3: and certainly Sam Cunningham as March madness is upon us,

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01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 3: He truly believed that Bruce Pearl's words, their videos, and

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Speaker 3: his visits in person and his encouragement healed him. He

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Speaker 3: believes that he said, I don't really think I get

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Speaker 3: to this point in my life with all the complications

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Speaker 3: I had, It's pretty amazing. It's a miracle to be

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Speaker 3: here right now. And Bruce Pearl kept his word over

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Speaker 3: seven years he's the team manager at Auburn. Back on

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Speaker 3: the airwave Saturday night eleven pm, but keep it locked

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Speaker 3: up next to the fellas on Fox Sports Radio