Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky.
Speaker 2: Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead.
Speaker 1: He's coming this way. Wait a minute, he said, I
Speaker 1: nandas pease.
Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by
Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that
Speaker 2: I like about the para normal.
Speaker 1: I've joined this.
Speaker 2: Week by a dear friend of mine, Zach Noey Towers,
Speaker 2: a hilarious comedian that I have had the pleasure of
Speaker 2: traveling the world with doing comedy. We get into some
Speaker 2: interesting conversation about manifesting and manifesting ghosts, and you don't
Speaker 2: want to miss this. But before we get to that,
Speaker 2: just a little friendly reminder that I will be doing
Speaker 2: my live show in Los Angeles the fifth of March.
Speaker 2: Get those tickets. It's a big old theater. We got
Speaker 2: tickets for everyone, so come on down. I'll have some
Speaker 2: celebrity guests. We'll be talking about ghosts. Who knows, we
Speaker 2: might even see a ghost, So make sure you get
Speaker 2: those tickets at largodshla dot com. You could also just
Speaker 2: google Largo at the Coronet, or just go to the
Speaker 2: link in my bio on Instagram at Roz Hernandez. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I've got a story here in my email. This one
Speaker 2: comes from Alma Alma Rights. Some years ago, my family
Speaker 2: and I went down to Rosa Retaumaxa cow to spend
Speaker 2: Christmas Christmas at the beach.
Speaker 1: Weird, I know.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, we rented a huge house a block from the
Speaker 2: beach that had all the lias upstairs, along with one
Speaker 2: bedroom and remaining bedrooms downstairs. One of those nights, my
Speaker 2: sister and I stayed up when everyone went to bed
Speaker 2: to watch a scary movie. We didn't have many options,
Speaker 2: so we went with watching a haunting in Connecticut. Ooh,
Speaker 2: that's a good real story. I got to cover that
Speaker 2: one of these days with the guests on the show.
Speaker 2: Back to the story, So before we started, we went around,
Speaker 2: turned off all the lights, closed all the shutters, and
Speaker 2: locked and latched the two sets of French doors that
Speaker 2: led to the balcony. The episode of the haunting in Connecticut. Oh,
Speaker 2: I guess this is like the TV show documentary thing. Okay,
Speaker 2: I remember this from the early two thousands. I think
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about here. Okay, so it says
Speaker 2: the episode we were watching was about a ghost haunting
Speaker 2: a house and.
Speaker 1: Talking to a little girl.
Speaker 2: There was a moment when the ghost and the show
Speaker 2: knocks on the door at the exact time I heard
Speaker 2: a door creaking open, and slowly I turned around, thinking
Speaker 2: it was one of the people in the upstairs bedroom
Speaker 2: going to the restroom, only to realize that both sets
Speaker 2: of French doors were wide open. Not slightly open, but
Speaker 2: completely open. I was frozen. I turned to look at
Speaker 2: my sister, who had no idea what was happening until
Speaker 2: she saw my panicked face and looked where I was
Speaker 2: pointing to. Both of us started laughing hysterically from the terror.
Speaker 2: We turned off the TV, had to muster the courage
Speaker 2: to go close and lock the doors again, and flew
Speaker 2: down the stairs to our bedrooms. The next morning, during breakfast,
Speaker 2: we told the rest of the family what happened. My aunt,
Speaker 2: who was sleeping upstairs, said, no, wonder you guys left
Speaker 2: all the lights on. Nope, we definitely didn't. After that happened,
Speaker 2: so many things clicked for all of us, like when
Speaker 2: the first morning we were there, I was getting my
Speaker 2: stuff ready to shower. Someone opened the door and I
Speaker 2: heard a man and laugh. At the time, I thought
Speaker 2: it was one of the security guards that maybe didn't
Speaker 2: realize that the house was occupied already, or when a
Speaker 2: sunglass case flew off the nightstand and we thought one
Speaker 2: of the kids hit them by accident, or items being
Speaker 2: moved from where we left them, including my dad's cell
Speaker 2: phone which he turned off in store to my mom's purse,
Speaker 2: only to find it under his pillow the next day
Speaker 2: when the alarm went off. Thankfully, we were leaving the
Speaker 2: next day, so we didn't have to know the truth
Speaker 2: for long. Okay, Olma, I don't know what the hell
Speaker 2: was going on at that place. Who the hell was
Speaker 2: this man that opened up the door when you were
Speaker 2: in the shower and just started laughing. He didn't say, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, He just laughed. I would be pissed off, ooh.
Speaker 2: Or a ghost turning off and turning on and moving
Speaker 2: my phone. I got classified information in there. I've got
Speaker 2: pictures of things only my doctor's scene. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about anyway, Guys, let's talk to someone funny.
Speaker 2: Here's me with zach Newey Towers and with the show.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to the show, The Hilarious zach Ney Towers.
Speaker 2: It's me, Hi Roz. You stunning, stunning friend of mine.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great.
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned before we hit record, I'm so excited
Speaker 3: that we're doing another cruise together. Yes, like you were
Speaker 3: such a bright light for my Italian or my Meta
Speaker 3: training cruise, the medi training cruise we did.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is like I haven't really talked
Speaker 2: about that on this podcast because you know, we record
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks in advance, and then it's just
Speaker 2: kind of hard to do like current stuff or whatever. Sure,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I've done a couple of gay cruises as
Speaker 2: a comedian, and the first one I did was with you.
Speaker 2: We were the comedians and we went to Italy into
Speaker 2: a Bifa, And then this weekend we're going on one
Speaker 2: to the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico, Miami
Speaker 2: and Haiti, Haiti.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, We're gon have so much fun.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a great time, you and I. But
Speaker 2: I've never really gotten to sit down and talk to
Speaker 2: you about ghosts. I know, what a shame or any
Speaker 2: of that kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: Do you believe? I do believe.
Speaker 3: I believe in it all. I believe in ghosts. I
Speaker 3: believe in like a Bigfoot esque thing. I believe in
Speaker 3: animals that we haven't found yet. I believe in aliens. Like,
Speaker 3: it is so small minded for us to sit on
Speaker 3: this tiny little planet in the middle of an unexplained
Speaker 3: solar system and say, no, no such thing as ghosts. Bitch,
Speaker 3: shut up. There's just there's no way these things don't exist.
Speaker 3: In my head, there's just no way they don't exist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but something being small minded has never
Speaker 2: stopped us humans from you are you're correct, you know?
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean if you just look at the
Speaker 2: way that people are on this earth, where there's people
Speaker 2: that are like.
Speaker 1: No one's allowed to be different than me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, or like it's so funny, like people who
Speaker 3: don't think they can pursue their dreams, like their dream jobs.
Speaker 3: Oh I could never do that. People say I can
Speaker 3: never do stand up. I'm like, really, like, you could
Speaker 3: never do stand up? Is that the story you're telling yourself?
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people that do do it can't
Speaker 2: do it exactly.
Speaker 3: Be like, honey, that has not stopped any of the
Speaker 3: famous white, straight male comedians from reaching great heights in
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is this your motivational speaker era.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm so balls deep in woo woo TikTok
Speaker 3: in like the manifesting, the like energies, all those things.
Speaker 1: It really it.
Speaker 3: For a few years now, it's kept me on a
Speaker 3: pink cloud where I'm like it is all up to me,
Speaker 3: Like my mind does dictate my thoughts. My futures are
Speaker 3: my reality. Like yeah, And I think actually that kind
Speaker 3: of goes hand in hand with the whole ghost thing,
Speaker 3: because ghosts are a vibe. Like there's good vibes and
Speaker 3: they're bad vibes. There's probably ghosts that are just chilling
Speaker 3: because they like they've explored the universe and they just
Speaker 3: like being like in my bathroom. They're like, you know what,
Speaker 3: this this spot is actually pretty calming, and you know
Speaker 3: that ghost lives in my bathroom. I don't have a
Speaker 3: ghost in my bathroom, but if any ghosts are listening,
Speaker 3: I'm open to sharing my space.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean with a good one.
Speaker 3: I don't want a little bitch, but like like a
Speaker 3: fun ghost who's kind of like I move the lube,
Speaker 3: like like yeah, get in here. I don't care. I
Speaker 3: live alone if as far as I know, so.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: You know what I keep thinking about is like a
Speaker 2: human secretly living in my home.
Speaker 1: That's called frogging, right, Is that what they call it? Frogging?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm pretty well. I say that without confidence. But
Speaker 3: it's like where you successfully live in someone's space without
Speaker 3: them knowing you live there.
Speaker 1: No, I am so scared that that's what's happening to me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Do you have an eighteen bedroom home that I don't
Speaker 3: know about nineteen.
Speaker 1: But it's counting. It's no big deal. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: But it's because my heater. I've been having my heater
Speaker 2: on at night.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. And it is an old.
Speaker 2: Ass heater and it'll do a little bit of a
Speaker 2: crash boom bang. It's funny that me being me at
Speaker 2: this point in my life, I don't assume it's a ghost.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I just keep thinking that it's some
Speaker 2: body that's been living in my home. I wake up
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is a person. Well, because I also have a large
Speaker 2: closet that I use as just throwing shit in there.
Speaker 2: Oh no, like literally just throwing shit in there. And
Speaker 2: one thousand percent a human could live in there.
Speaker 1: Ross. That's not good. That's not good for your mind.
Speaker 2: You're totally right, but it's a whole situation with throwing
Speaker 2: things out.
Speaker 1: Are you a hoarder?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you are. Oh my god, I've never met
Speaker 2: a thing I didn't like. Yeah, I'm a collector, I.
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I'm the opposite in my old age.
Speaker 1: I'm like a get rid of her.
Speaker 2: Either way, hopefully there's nobody frog in froggy style in
Speaker 2: this apartment.
Speaker 1: So you're a manifestor. We have learned, which I I love.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think that like the jewelry community has really
Speaker 2: given it a bad name or sort of the like.
Speaker 1: Ooh, let's light some sage.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, crystals like if I have my rose quartz,
Speaker 3: I can do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that can be that can be dangerous though. I
Speaker 2: have had a crystal hoarding stage of my life. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, your bit about crystals is so funny.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It is all very true. I've spent a lot of
Speaker 2: money on crystals and it's gotten me.
Speaker 3: Here a nineteen bedroom home with a roommate. You don't
Speaker 3: know about. That's because of the Rose Courts. The Rose
Speaker 3: Courts is supposed to be about love, and I'm rubbing
Speaker 3: those stones all over me and nothing's been happening. But yeah,
Speaker 3: as a person.
Speaker 2: With lots of crystals and jewelry and incense burning at
Speaker 2: all times, I think that people have kind of rolled
Speaker 2: their eyes at manifestation. But manifestation is also it goes,
Speaker 2: it's along with prayers, some people call it. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of witchcraft is manifesting, which you know, all this
Speaker 2: stuff has been around for forever. Like I think when
Speaker 2: the secret came out, everyone was.
Speaker 1: Like, what is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, no, people have always it's not
Speaker 2: really I mean, I guess it's a secret, But.
Speaker 3: The thing is like, Okay, I'd rather still be woo
Speaker 3: woo and be thinking of all these beautiful, amazing ways
Speaker 3: my life is going to turn out. Then the alternative,
Speaker 3: which is just like being like pissy and seeing all
Speaker 3: the bad stuff and complaining all the time.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? So I'd rather be
Speaker 1: Delulu than you know, the alternative. Why do you look
Speaker 1: at me when you said the alternative? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in a closet right now, I think.
Speaker 2: And hopefully I'm alone. I am in a closet recording.
Speaker 2: So have you ever seen a ghost or encountered one. Okay,
Speaker 2: so when I was little, I thought I would see
Speaker 2: a girl running through the halls of my home in
Speaker 2: a nightgown. That's what I thought I saw. But looking back,
Speaker 2: I can't guarantee I was a reliable witness, right Like,
Speaker 2: I think it could have been little kid me. You know,
Speaker 2: you do see something out of the corner of your eye,
Speaker 2: but that could literally be like a fucking floating piece
Speaker 2: of dust in my literal eye or something like m hmm.
Speaker 1: But I wanted it to be true.
Speaker 3: Do you remember being scared by it? Yes, the first time,
Speaker 3: and then after that. No, I think I was kind
Speaker 3: of like looking for her. After that, You're like, hey girl,
Speaker 3: I was like, bitch, I need to braid someone's hair
Speaker 3: post haste.
Speaker 1: So where are you running? That's so cute.
Speaker 2: Did anybody else in the house ever report seeing a
Speaker 2: little girl running?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Although one time my sister and I were both in
Speaker 3: opposite ends of the house and we heard a glass shatter,
Speaker 3: and we went into the kitchen and there was a
Speaker 3: glass sitting in the middle of the counter shattered. It
Speaker 3: had like broken by itself, and we thought that was
Speaker 3: very eerie. But again, I feel like a scientist would
Speaker 3: be like, well, that was just a change in the
Speaker 3: sea level and the air pressure, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like glasses sometimes just break on their own.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was a ghost.
Speaker 2: These scientists, I tell you, they had to ruin all
Speaker 2: of our fun They're not doing anything fun.
Speaker 3: No, they're vaccines saving my life. Maybe I want to
Speaker 3: be a ghost scientist. Everything about that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I always have to say, for the record,
Speaker 2: I'm very pro science.
Speaker 3: Pro science and pro crystals can actually live in the
Speaker 3: same nineteen bedroom home.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am very much about that, Like kind of always,
Speaker 2: I am very.
Speaker 1: I want both.
Speaker 2: Yes, I want it to be possible that ghosts could
Speaker 2: be something woo woo whatever, But.
Speaker 1: It could also be some kind of a scientific thing.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: And who's to say, Like, you know, it's like someone
Speaker 2: can have a near death experience and then you could
Speaker 2: be like, well, a chemical gets released in your brain
Speaker 2: when you're whatever and you hallucinate. Sure, it's like okay,
Speaker 2: but could that also be that you saw your dead
Speaker 2: ancestors welcoming you into heaven or what?
Speaker 1: Like? It could be both yes, why not?
Speaker 3: Or the I had sex with the ghost everything of
Speaker 3: that doctor Philstein.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had sex with a ghost? No, but
Speaker 1: again I'm open to it. Yeah. I feel like the
Speaker 1: cleanup would be a breeze. Wow, it's ectoplasm.
Speaker 3: Oh that would be narley if you were like having
Speaker 3: this like sexual experience with something that you couldn't necessarily
Speaker 3: see but you could feel, and then out of nowhere
Speaker 3: at the end, like ectoplasm just like splashed on your
Speaker 3: face and like, oh oh I didn't Okay, uh, it
Speaker 3: got real real, all of a sudden, something you can't
Speaker 3: see but you can feel. Girl, that's going to a
Speaker 3: dark room. Okay, what if it was a reveal that
Speaker 3: dark rooms were not filled with other people, it was
Speaker 3: just ghosts like going at it on you. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm not a ghost room, girly, a ghost room. I'm
Speaker 3: not a dark room, Gurly. I need to be able
Speaker 3: to see, you know, the thing's coming at me.
Speaker 2: All right, for anyone listening that needs to see. So
Speaker 2: did you ever go ghost hunting or anything like that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: So as soon as I had my driver's license, me
Speaker 3: and my friends were obsessed with driving to like haunted places.
Speaker 3: This is in Saint Louis, Saint Louis. Yes, did you.
Speaker 1: Ever go to the Lent Mansion?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lent Mansion is kind of like a tourist like
Speaker 3: haunted place, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we also had Okay, so two things.
Speaker 3: The Exorcists story was inspired by a Saint Louis case,
Speaker 3: The Little Boy.
Speaker 1: The Little Boy me and Jared gold Stain. We talked
Speaker 1: about that on this podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh stop, okay, Yeah, so you know they like the
Speaker 3: entire floor of that hospital when it had happened. And
Speaker 3: then the other thing that's cool about Saint Louis in
Speaker 3: a dark dark way is that we had the City Hospital.
Speaker 3: It was like I guess like a state funded hospital
Speaker 3: where they had like a psych ward and like people
Speaker 3: were treated horribly there, and it was like bottom of
Speaker 3: the barrel. Like it's like you didn't want to go there,
Speaker 3: but if you had to go there, you had to
Speaker 3: go there, shock treatment, that type of thing. All of
Speaker 3: a sudden, they lost funding and they left it, like
Speaker 3: everything inside of it that was like in like God,
Speaker 3: I want to say that they probably left it in
Speaker 3: like the eighties maybe, And so for a while you
Speaker 3: could like sneak in and like poke around like cabinets
Speaker 3: so if you look up pictures of like abandoned city
Speaker 3: hospital Saint Louism's right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we had our video camera. We went down there
Speaker 1: one time.
Speaker 3: It's downtown Saint Louis not a great area, especially not
Speaker 3: for like sixteen year old gay kids to go.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went in with the video camera, but it
Speaker 3: was so dark because the windows were boarded up, at
Speaker 3: least on the first floor, and we were looking around
Speaker 3: very scary, very scary. We were in there for like
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. We came out. We went to look at
Speaker 3: the footage. As soon as we go in the building,
Speaker 3: it goes to static.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that like that was like a thing that
Speaker 3: my friends and I were like, no way, no way,
Speaker 3: because it was like also one of those things were
Speaker 3: like the camera came back when we like left the hospital,
Speaker 3: the footage showed up again.
Speaker 1: That's creepy. It was wild.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will accept that as a ghost story.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3: I actually came here to get closure and acceptance, so
Speaker 3: that really fills my little heart with joy.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Lent Mansion, because you know,
Speaker 2: I spent a couple of days there on the television
Speaker 2: show my mom called Living for the Dud, which is
Speaker 2: on Hulu and America and Disney Plus around the world.
Speaker 3: So what I remember of the Lent Mansion was that
Speaker 3: it was like a cursed family. Yes, and like did
Speaker 3: they keep someone in the attic? Was that the lamps?
Speaker 3: Did they have a person in the attic? Let's add
Speaker 3: one to the story just in case.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that they kept someone in the attic.
Speaker 1: But a bunch of people killed themselves?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Okay, I feel like I was just oversaturated
Speaker 3: with the Lamp Mansion story. And like I said, they
Speaker 3: kind of had like tours and like things like that,
Speaker 3: so it felt like very commercial, very like Ponted Mansion Disneyland.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: So I guess I was always more intrigued by like
Speaker 3: the lesser known like the abandoned city hospital to me,
Speaker 3: felt much scarier than like an up and running place
Speaker 3: you could get tickets to.
Speaker 2: Right now, there's like real life dangers to going to
Speaker 2: an abandoned building at night.
Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, I was gonna say, like I got the
Speaker 3: Internet when I was like a young kid, but you
Speaker 3: know how websites used to be like very like cheap,
Speaker 3: like it was like you went to a website like
Speaker 3: web pages, yes, yes, and it was like four pages
Speaker 3: total or something. Yeah, And we would try to find
Speaker 3: honted places there and this one time we found a
Speaker 3: place and it was just like a house and it
Speaker 3: was like in the boonies, a little bit like probably
Speaker 3: like thirty or forty minutes outside of Saint Louis. And
Speaker 3: we drove there and it was this house set way
Speaker 3: back on this property. The road was out front, and
Speaker 3: then there was a huge field and yard and this
Speaker 3: like abandoned house, like in the darkness between the trees.
Speaker 3: And we went up to it and when we peeked
Speaker 3: inside the windows, there were a bunch of like circular
Speaker 3: saw blades hanging from like the dining room area, and
Speaker 3: I lost my mind. I refused to go into the house.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, no, there's weapons visible.
Speaker 1: No. I'm like I'm not going in there.
Speaker 2: But it was an abandoned house that nobody lived in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: uh huh, that's freaky. That's like Texas chainsaw mass.
Speaker 1: That was the vibe. Hey, let's go.
Speaker 2: Back to Manifestation for a second, Okay, because there's a
Speaker 2: story I wanted to tell you about that sort of
Speaker 2: goes along with manifestation and this idea of could it
Speaker 2: be science, could it be something else. There's this really
Speaker 2: famous story called the Philip Experiment, and I've talked about.
Speaker 1: It over the years.
Speaker 2: We did just hit five years on this podcast, so
Speaker 2: I've covered a lot of things over the years, but
Speaker 2: I've never talked about it with a guest, and I'm
Speaker 2: so curious somebody else's thoughts on this. Basically, what this
Speaker 2: story is is these people set out to see can
Speaker 2: they create a ghost?
Speaker 1: Like could you just out of nowhere?
Speaker 2: You know, we're all so used to this idea that
Speaker 2: ghosts are a dead person whatever, But could it also
Speaker 2: just be something you make up interesting?
Speaker 3: And like you give it power, you give it a life, right,
Speaker 3: so people actually start to manifest.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's like, if you can manifest a job,
Speaker 2: why not manifest go like, could.
Speaker 1: You also do that? I don't know, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So this experiment.
Speaker 2: Most of the research I got here is from a
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen article by Stephen Wagner on liveabout dot com.
Speaker 2: This took place in Toronto nineteen seventy two, scary time.
Speaker 1: So much of this good.
Speaker 2: Paranormal stuff is from the seventies, because the seventies and
Speaker 2: sixties was a really big time for parapsychology, which nowadays
Speaker 2: like almost doesn't exist. I think there was a lot
Speaker 2: of funding going on at the time where people were
Speaker 2: studying esp and telekinesis and all of these kinds of
Speaker 2: things because they were like, Okay, could this be a science? Sure,
Speaker 2: and then I think it's kind of I think it's
Speaker 2: viewed by the scientific community as more pseudoscience and like
Speaker 2: not enough facts. There was a lot of universities that
Speaker 2: had like labs for this stuff. Actually, like UCLA had
Speaker 2: a huge one around this time period. But so this
Speaker 2: experiment in Toronto, this group was known as the Toronto
Speaker 2: Society of Psychical Research or TSPR for short. This experiment
Speaker 2: was started by doctor A. R. George Owen, who was
Speaker 2: a mathematical geneticist nerd alert, and it was observed by
Speaker 2: a psychologist named doctor Joel Witten. And what they did
Speaker 2: is they assembled a team. They wanted to have a
Speaker 2: bunch of different kinds of people on this team, so
Speaker 2: they had doctor Owen's wife, they had an industrial designer,
Speaker 2: a former chairperson of MENSA, an accountant, a housewife, a
Speaker 2: real housewife, of Toronto, a bookkeeper, a sociology student. All
Speaker 2: these people they get together and they're like, let's see
Speaker 2: if we can make a ghost. So they write a
Speaker 2: whole backstory for who this ghost could be. They're like, okay,
Speaker 2: his name's Philip. He's a British aristocrat in the mid
Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds. He's married to this woman named Dorothea. But
Speaker 2: let's make her be like this cold bitch. And he's like,
Speaker 2: not into her that much. So then he falls in
Speaker 2: love randomly with this woman named Margo. He talked about
Speaker 2: living in a big old place. He had a bunch
Speaker 2: of land. He moves the new girl, Margo into a
Speaker 2: little house on his property so that his wife wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to find her whatever I don't know. And
Speaker 2: then that's their little love shack where they get ba.
Speaker 2: Then one day the wife finds Margo. She accuses her
Speaker 2: of witchcraft, and she's like, you're stealing my man, you witch.
Speaker 2: Let me guess you got crystals too, bitch.
Speaker 1: And it's you, you're Margot.
Speaker 2: And then she was burned at the stake. Now again,
Speaker 2: this is all fake. This is all like a fake story. Okay,
Speaker 2: Now I gotta just say this whole thing feels like
Speaker 2: kind of kinky to me, Like these people like getting
Speaker 2: together and being like, okay, let's come up with a story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's come up with a story. So it's like they
Speaker 2: used to fuck.
Speaker 1: It's all sex. Yeah, these so like, let's make it.
Speaker 2: Margot had big tits, and they're like okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: we're losing the story here.
Speaker 1: So whatever, this is what they come up with.
Speaker 2: And then one of the members draws a picture of
Speaker 2: Philip and you know kind of vision board, you know,
Speaker 2: have the photo there, and then they tried to make
Speaker 2: contact with them, and they would gather around a card
Speaker 2: table and they would meditate on this story and they
Speaker 2: would try to conjure him up. And these people did
Speaker 2: this every single week for a year, and nothing happened.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying some other shit was going on
Speaker 2: in this group.
Speaker 3: They were trying to conjure their own story. Yes see,
Speaker 3: I think they jumped way ahead. I think they needed
Speaker 3: to establish the story kind of like create the urban
Speaker 3: legend or whatever or like the ghost story, and then
Speaker 3: revisit it in like thirty years once it's had time
Speaker 3: to like marinate, like you need other people to believe it.
Speaker 3: You need to be like, oh, this is the thing
Speaker 3: they kissed under the night she died, you know, like
Speaker 3: they need like more history. You can't just like write
Speaker 3: it and then like write because I think even okay,
Speaker 3: so manifestation wise, subconsciously, I don't think any of them
Speaker 3: would believe it because they were too close to it.
Speaker 1: Interesting, they just.
Speaker 3: Wrote the story so in their head they could have
Speaker 3: the facts like wrong between the six of them, or
Speaker 3: like they could be all thinking different things, or one
Speaker 3: could be like, this is stupid, this is stupid, This
Speaker 3: is stupid, this is stupid. You know, just there for
Speaker 3: the check.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that they paid all these people because this
Speaker 2: is a commitment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they all.
Speaker 2: Were, you know, people that agreed, we are not psychics
Speaker 2: and we will be open minded. And they were like
Speaker 2: really trying to be on the same page because yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they were testing out all this stuff because
Speaker 2: a lot of these urban legendee things like a bigfoot
Speaker 2: or whatever. Every town has something like that. It is
Speaker 2: a theory that that's what those things are. It's just
Speaker 2: people tell these stories over and over again and then
Speaker 2: before you know it, people actually start seeing it. But
Speaker 2: it's like how long does it take? How many people
Speaker 2: does it take? Could you just do it with a
Speaker 2: group of people in a room?
Speaker 1: Okay? Sure, So they were just trying to test it
Speaker 1: all out. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: They did it for a year. Nothing's happening. They're doing
Speaker 2: it like sitting in a room with the lights on.
Speaker 2: They decide to turn the lights down again. I'm picturing
Speaker 2: one of these like younger men in the group being
Speaker 2: like the freaky deeky one that's.
Speaker 1: Like, we should maybe we should have wine. Should you
Speaker 1: want some wine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's dim the lights, Like who are these people
Speaker 2: getting together every single week? Like sitting at a card table.
Speaker 2: He's like, let's put the lightstone low and they're like, okay, weird.
Speaker 1: So they do it anyway, and they kind of went back.
Speaker 2: To the roots of this sort of a thing, which
Speaker 2: is like Victorian spiritualism, seances, slaances.
Speaker 1: And if you have a kid, you should name it
Speaker 1: seance seance.
Speaker 2: So they turned the lights down. I'm assuming they lit
Speaker 2: candles and stuff. And that is when Philip came out
Speaker 2: to p oh no.
Speaker 1: So first he would wrap on the tables.
Speaker 2: Like Lynn w Manuel Miranda exactly. My name is Philip
Speaker 2: and I'm here to say Marco had big titties and
Speaker 2: I'm here to slay. So he would do one on
Speaker 2: the table for yes and then two for no. Wow,
Speaker 2: And they began to start to get to know them
Speaker 2: more because they're like, Okay, we already know your backstoryes,
Speaker 2: so like what are your thoughts on? Like they would
Speaker 2: ask him his opinions on different things. Sure, then he
Speaker 2: would do one for us and two for no. And
Speaker 2: they were really like making sure there was nobody kicking
Speaker 2: the table underneath. I actually found an interview with one
Speaker 2: of the people that was involved, and he said that
Speaker 2: the table would start to move and they would do
Speaker 2: what they called a doily test, where they would put
Speaker 2: a doily underneath their fingers and like if they were
Speaker 2: moving it, then the doily would be moving, huh, and
Speaker 2: it wouldn't, so it would move anyway. And they would
Speaker 2: ask him to dim the lights and he would and
Speaker 2: then they'd be like, Okay, put the lights back up,
Speaker 2: and then he would do it like on command.
Speaker 1: Can you actually move the couch over there? Yes?
Speaker 3: And I think we want to hang this piece of
Speaker 3: art so exactly.
Speaker 2: So one of the reasons I wanted to talk to
Speaker 2: you about this is because we are going on this
Speaker 2: gay cruise and you've just experienced with me that I'm
Speaker 2: just a little too much of a lady for falling
Speaker 2: in love with any of these beautiful gay men. Sure
Speaker 2: that go on this cruise and there's always so many
Speaker 2: beautiful gay men falling in love with each other, and
Speaker 2: then I'm there alone. Would you be willing to get
Speaker 2: together with me and try to conjure up a fill
Speaker 2: up for me?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like for you to have like a
Speaker 1: love cruise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you and I will conjure up a ghost,
Speaker 2: will come up with a backstory, okay, and then this
Speaker 2: ghost will be my husband for the week.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So you want to do it early in and I
Speaker 3: can't tell how seriously you are, Like, I will fucking
Speaker 3: do a say once with you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, on a cruise ship.
Speaker 2: I can't even have been I'm too scared because there's
Speaker 2: no escape.
Speaker 1: But if we unleash something wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, are you how scared are
Speaker 3: you that we would actually bring something up from the
Speaker 3: bottom of the ocean that like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's think about it. It's too scary. It could
Speaker 1: be a horror movie. Or it could be a rom com.
Speaker 3: Yeah I need content my ghost guy or my guy ghost.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, let's get back to Philip. So their final experiment. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, another thing that they would report happening
Speaker 2: was a missed forming in the center of the table.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did anyone taste it?
Speaker 2: So their final experiment was in front of fifty people
Speaker 2: and they filmed it and there are some clips that
Speaker 2: you can see if you go to YouTube.
Speaker 1: What they did was.
Speaker 2: They were like, okay, everyone, I want you to see
Speaker 2: what we've been working on for years. At this point,
Speaker 2: I want to say, damn it. I didn't write this down,
Speaker 2: but I want to say it was like ten years
Speaker 2: that they were doing this, like every week.
Speaker 1: It's insane. So they have these.
Speaker 2: Fifty people there and Philip was like, all right, let's
Speaker 2: do it. I got a crowd like. He performed right
Speaker 2: on command and lifted up the table a half inch.
Speaker 2: I mean all legs were off the ground. Do we
Speaker 2: know or was it just like they claimed that, Yes,
Speaker 2: all of the legs were off the ground. Okay, I
Speaker 2: mean a half inch. Okay, I'm gonna let him have it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him have it. I will always let
Speaker 2: him man have a half inch if they want it,
Speaker 2: So they never saw him materialize. That was kind of
Speaker 2: the goal after all these years. They wanted to see
Speaker 2: a full body apparition, and that never happened. But the
Speaker 2: same group was able to do the exact same experiment
Speaker 2: with a completely different fictional ghost backstory. And there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of different groups that have done the same
Speaker 2: kind of a thing and they've had stuff like this happen.
Speaker 2: And there's actually two movies that were inspired by those
Speaker 2: horror movies. There's one called The Quiet Ones and The Apparition. Okay,
Speaker 2: I love talking about this idea because I do think
Speaker 2: that particularly, like you were saying, like Lent Mansion, these
Speaker 2: places where there's like tons of tourists coming in and
Speaker 2: there's all these stories. Then look, sometimes when you look
Speaker 2: a little deeper into these stories, you'll find people be
Speaker 2: like yeah, and then there's also like this weird creature
Speaker 2: that we see and we don't sure, like there's no reason,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not one of the people that died here,
Speaker 2: it's just right. And I'm always like, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's that. I think it's all these people going in
Speaker 2: there being like there's a scary ghost in here, there's
Speaker 2: a demon in here or whatever, and it like the
Speaker 2: demons are like, oh, we'll show you demons if you wanna.
Speaker 1: If you wanna accuse us of being here, we'll be here.
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's like, okay, I wonder if they've
Speaker 3: like created like a dating app for ghosts where we're
Speaker 3: like telling what we want and then the ghosts are like, oh,
Speaker 3: that kind of matches my vibe. Like they're looking for
Speaker 3: like an old colonial woman, like that's me, Like I'm
Speaker 3: colonial like, and then they try to like see if
Speaker 3: it's a fit.
Speaker 1: Totally that's my vibe.
Speaker 2: I want like a fun, nice I like nice ghosts.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. I mean I'll take that over angry
Speaker 3: ghosts any day.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I might be able to hook you up with a
Speaker 2: ghost if you're interested. I do a little segment on
Speaker 2: the show where I go to eBay and I find
Speaker 2: haunted dolls.
Speaker 1: Perfect, it's time for the.
Speaker 2: Dolls are living?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: This is a doll I found in eBay. It's not
Speaker 2: your traditional spooky looking little girl with frizzy hair and
Speaker 2: a doily dress. Jiha, could you throw up that photo, please, Zach,
Speaker 2: I'd like you to meet Gordie.
Speaker 1: Is this a queer icon haunted bear?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: It is? Love ya.
Speaker 2: So this is a bear, a teddy bear. It has
Speaker 2: a shirt that says love ya, and it's rainbow tied.
Speaker 2: Die to me, It's not the scariest I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It's just a cute little teddy bear. It looks small too.
Speaker 1: I literally have never been less afraid of something.
Speaker 2: Well, there's this eBay account that I am obsessed with.
Speaker 2: They sell haunted teddy bears, and they all are gay,
Speaker 2: and they all have backstories that range from cute and
Speaker 2: fun to some that are very dark.
Speaker 1: I try to.
Speaker 2: Stay away from the dark ones for the sake of
Speaker 2: this fun show. So this is Gordy and it says, well,
Speaker 2: actually it starts with something dark. He died in an
Speaker 2: accident when he was twenty four. Okay, so we got
Speaker 2: that out of the way. He came out as gay
Speaker 2: when he was sixteen. His parents were supportive, his friends
Speaker 2: accepted him. He often supported LGBT rights and participated in rallies, parades, fundraisers, etc.
Speaker 2: After he graduated high school, he worked as a counselor
Speaker 2: for LGBT teens. He felt like he was really helping
Speaker 2: them and that he was doing something important in his life.
Speaker 2: He also enjoys bowling, fishing, going to the movies, motorcycle, motorcycle.
Speaker 2: It just says motorcycle, great, dirt bikes, cooking. So he's
Speaker 2: kind of like a mask gay guy. I think sure
Speaker 2: he's tat verse. He is a nice, positive guy, and
Speaker 2: he will make a good companion for anyone. We have
Speaker 2: felt his strong positive energy throughout our home. We have
Speaker 2: heard his footsteps roaming up and down our hallways and stares.
Speaker 2: He flickers our lights, he knocks on doors and windows.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I smell banana bread baking when I'm not making
Speaker 2: any and Gordy told me that he loves making banana bread.
Speaker 2: He has communica verse bottom. Maybe he has communicated so
Speaker 2: far through making noises, electronics, feelings, feelings, pendulums, spirit boards,
Speaker 2: and dreams. He is ready to find his new home.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of questions.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay.
Speaker 2: Well, the one thing I always forget to remind people
Speaker 2: is the theory with these is that this is a
Speaker 2: real person that died and somehow is now inside of
Speaker 2: this teddy bear.
Speaker 1: I unfortunately already understood that part.
Speaker 3: That part I actually had like zero qualms with, Like
Speaker 3: that makes sense to me. I don't think I love that.
Speaker 3: Like so one account has like a bunch of these
Speaker 3: dead gay plushies, like yes, where are they sourcing are
Speaker 3: they ethically sourcing them even, like or are they going
Speaker 3: to like gay gravestones and like putting the bear there
Speaker 3: for a while for it to like suck up any
Speaker 3: ghost juices and then like bringing it back Like I
Speaker 3: just like I don't love if they are manufacturing Oh
Speaker 3: my god, are they pulling a fillip? Are they just
Speaker 3: making ghosts and being like, yeah, this is your ghost.
Speaker 3: He likes banana bread and he he can deep throat,
Speaker 3: you know, Like what is the I want it to
Speaker 3: be real? I want you know what, if I'm gonna
Speaker 3: buy a haunted item, I want it to be the
Speaker 3: only thing the seller.
Speaker 1: Is selling, right right? I agree?
Speaker 3: Like I have this ken doll. It was found at
Speaker 3: the scene of this crime. I tried to bury it
Speaker 3: with my my person who died. It came back I
Speaker 3: needed away from me, Like I don't. I don't need
Speaker 3: like this fake ass grinder profile of a plushy like
Speaker 3: mask for mask and it's only like this Teddy Bear's
Speaker 3: stomach picture or something like I don't need that, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, it.
Speaker 2: Could be a Philip thing, but that could be real,
Speaker 2: Like it could it could really somehow make noises of
Speaker 2: people walking in a house and banana bread smells.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again they have more than just Gordy right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So fuck these people I think are businesses. I listen
Speaker 3: as someone who does believe in these things. It feels
Speaker 3: sacrilegious to me, okay, like they are taking the steam
Speaker 3: out of the real side of it for me.
Speaker 1: That's just for me. But maybe I'm being close minded. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: can I play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I would be honored. It's time for EVP or ev please.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I do is, so I go to
Speaker 2: the internet. I find electronic voice phenomena, alleged recordings of
Speaker 2: ghosts speaking. I'm gonna play you too, and I want
Speaker 2: you to tell me what you hear, and then I'll
Speaker 2: give you some options. The correct answer is what the
Speaker 2: ghost hunters believe it is saying.
Speaker 3: These options always sound psychotic. Every time I listen to
Speaker 3: this your show, the options are always like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: like I hope the ghost isn't saying any of those things.
Speaker 1: But I love it.
Speaker 2: I do not write these. It's the writers of the
Speaker 2: show that come up with this. If I'm laughing at it,
Speaker 2: if it's funny, it was me. But if not, if not,
Speaker 2: it was the writers of the show.
Speaker 1: No, I love it. I love it hitting. Okay.
Speaker 2: So these are both from the same group, Equinox Paranormal
Speaker 2: Research in the UK.
Speaker 3: Equinox the most exclusive ghost collecting group.
Speaker 2: So this is Uh, I'm not exactly sure what the
Speaker 2: place is.
Speaker 1: I believe it's a.
Speaker 2: House and it is an ellend UK And uh.
Speaker 1: What is the first voice here saying.
Speaker 3: You do it again? I want to touch myself where
Speaker 3: I think about you?
Speaker 2: You know that's not exactly what they believed it said, Okay,
Speaker 2: hit me you with the options?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Did they think it was a here's a warning, you
Speaker 2: touchy bitch?
Speaker 1: The word touch though touch? I heard touch? Is it B?
Speaker 1: I have work, you lazy mess? Is it C?
Speaker 2: I have no worries you touching this?
Speaker 1: Does that mean that was the writers.
Speaker 2: Or is it D I'm the one who took the tits.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 3: That's one of those answers where I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's such an incriminating statement for a ghost to say.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say a still, Are you sure.
Speaker 2: You don't think it is I'm the one who took
Speaker 2: the tits. I don't even know what that means. No,
Speaker 2: they believe it is. C I have no worries you
Speaker 2: touching this. I don't even know what that means, but
Speaker 2: that's what they believe it says, and I can hear it. Wait, wait,
Speaker 2: let's do it again. I have no worries you touching this.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's crazy when you hear that with the prompt,
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it does some only kind of like that.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, here's the next one, same place. It sounds
Speaker 2: like the same ghost. Yeah, okay, wait a second, let's
Speaker 2: do it again.
Speaker 1: God, that almost sounded like it was like in tongues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like they're talking quick. Do you have any guess?
Speaker 1: Is this okay? If you don't know something, maybe like
Speaker 1: ride on the ride, on the hay ride, right on
Speaker 1: the hay ride. Shut up.
Speaker 3: It's better than some of the writer's answers. Oh, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry it took my tits. That's what I think it's saying.
Speaker 3: My tits are gone, Oh my god, I'm ghost tits.
Speaker 1: Well, I need to hear it one more time. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the sky Ranch, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Ooh, Welcome to the sky Ranch, motherfucker. No, is it
Speaker 2: a Joe Biden? Is not the one?
Speaker 1: Is it b I'll knock you out? Is it C?
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you looking at? Or is it D?
Speaker 2: I want some fries at this Arby's?
Speaker 1: Okay? So wait? Is the fourth one?
Speaker 2: Always like a tits slash Arby's slash silly? It's always
Speaker 2: either tits or Arby's. I'm sorry, that's basically all I
Speaker 2: care about. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: Did one say I'll knock you out? Is that one
Speaker 3: of the ones? Yes, I'll do that one.
Speaker 2: That is what they believe. But I hear a little
Speaker 2: bit of stuff before that. I think it says, you
Speaker 2: want to fight, I'll knock you out. Wait, here we go.
Speaker 2: Listen to that, But then he says to me after that,
Speaker 2: then you want to fight, you want to fight, I'll
Speaker 2: knock you out?
Speaker 1: And this and this Arby's in this tit, Arby's in
Speaker 1: this Arby Tits in these curly fried tits.
Speaker 2: Okay, last thing, let's just hear some of your thoughts
Speaker 2: on different things that people consider to be paranormal, or
Speaker 2: at least part of this conversation.
Speaker 1: Sure, what do you think about horoscopes?
Speaker 3: I am a libra. Same, Yes, everything I've heard about
Speaker 3: libras resonates with I do fear that horoscopes are kind
Speaker 3: of designed to resonate with everyone. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I believe it to the day, though, I will say
Speaker 3: I had my birth chart read and it was very
Speaker 3: very very very very very accurate. Yeah, the way the
Speaker 3: person read it to me. So you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: let horoscopes keep existing.
Speaker 1: But do you put any like emphasis or anything into
Speaker 1: those or no?
Speaker 3: I go, huh, that's interesting, right, or I go, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe that was that It's something I look back on,
Speaker 3: not forward on.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I feel like the only time I
Speaker 2: put a lot on them is when I'm really like
Speaker 2: struggling or something where I'm like should I do this
Speaker 2: thing or should like That's the same time I go
Speaker 2: to psychics is when I'm just like, I'm going crazy
Speaker 2: thinking about this and I need some confirmation to make
Speaker 2: me better sure about whatever the decision is or whatever
Speaker 2: is going on in my life, or if I like,
Speaker 2: auditioned for something, and then I see the horoscope and
Speaker 2: it's like great things are in your future, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, it knows. I auditioned. I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 3: Today is the day, You're like, I should buy the car.
Speaker 3: Today is the day exactly.
Speaker 1: What about psychics? Have you been to one? I don't
Speaker 1: think I have. I don't think I have. Wow.
Speaker 3: Maybe when I was drunk and it was like a
Speaker 3: venice boardwalk thing, okay, and it was very like, God,
Speaker 3: I got a psychic, I said, you know, and I
Speaker 3: don't know what they told me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was accurate. Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a ploy that some
Speaker 3: psychics do, but I'll never forget. I was probably like
Speaker 3: twenty three and I was standing on the side of
Speaker 3: the street with my friend. We were waiting across the
Speaker 3: intersection and this like truck went through the intersection, pulled over,
Speaker 3: and this woman got out of the car, ran up
Speaker 3: to me and she gave me her car and she's like,
Speaker 3: you have one of the brightest lights I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I would love to do a reading with you sometime.
Speaker 1: And I didn't follow up.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, thanks, that's when you go if
Speaker 2: it's so bright and something you would love to do
Speaker 2: so much, you can't do it for free?
Speaker 1: You know it? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well I didn't even ask about money, Honestly, I just
Speaker 3: took it as a compliment that I was, like, she
Speaker 3: probably just wants step back me. Oh yeah, sure, Like
Speaker 3: I was such a dumb twink.
Speaker 1: She's obsessed with me. She's obsessed with me.
Speaker 2: That's when I would pull out my pepper spray. Anytime
Speaker 2: somebody runs at me, I grab my pepper spray. Okay,
Speaker 2: what do you think about curses? Do you think that
Speaker 2: that's like a real thing. You can put a curse
Speaker 2: on someone or some people are cursed?
Speaker 1: Ooh okay, so yes and no.
Speaker 3: I believe that curses are self appointed via karma. Like
Speaker 3: I take solace knowing that, like when someone wrongs me,
Speaker 3: or when someone flat out does something kind of evil,
Speaker 3: that either they're already experiencing a lesser life or they
Speaker 3: will get their come upance. I don't think I could
Speaker 3: decide today to curse you for no reason and the
Speaker 3: bad stuff would start to happen to you. I don't
Speaker 3: think of myself as that powerful, but I do think
Speaker 3: that you can curse yourself or you can like live
Speaker 3: a cursed life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that works for me. Okay, what about deja
Speaker 2: vu or like synchronicities?
Speaker 1: Okay, synchronosities? I love.
Speaker 3: Deja vu was once Okay, this is the thing. I've
Speaker 3: read about four books of my life. I've seen about
Speaker 3: six point two million tiktoks. I don't know where I
Speaker 3: got the information I'm about to tell you this.
Speaker 1: From, but.
Speaker 3: I heard that deja vu is simply you have long
Speaker 3: term memory and short term memory, and when you absorb something,
Speaker 3: your mind accidentally places it in the long term memory
Speaker 3: instead of the short term memory, so you immediately call
Speaker 3: it up as having already happened. You're like, oh I
Speaker 3: remember this, like this is like from my past. Huh Okay,
Speaker 3: but again that was either from a well researched science
Speaker 3: book or a thirteen year old on TikTok that happened
Speaker 3: to just like fool me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not fun for me. I'd rather think that it's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm that's a raven.
Speaker 3: So also, jjvu, I don't love because I don't feel
Speaker 3: very powerful in that moment. I feel actually kind of
Speaker 3: helpless where I'm like, oh, this has already happened, do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, but synchronicities, I have a really great one if
Speaker 3: we have like one minute.
Speaker 1: Yes, my favorite kinds of stories. Yes.
Speaker 3: So I had a friend in from the UK. They're
Speaker 3: staying with me, and me and him and my sister
Speaker 3: and her college friend were going to Sinespia, which is
Speaker 3: movies in the cemetery that night. But I was busy
Speaker 3: during the day, so I literally dropped him off at
Speaker 3: this part because he was gonna like read and like, uh,
Speaker 3: just like walk around and stuff, while I was like
Speaker 3: I had an audition or something like that. So I
Speaker 3: go to the edition blah blah blah, pick him up,
Speaker 3: and he was like he met this really cute guy
Speaker 3: there and they exchanged numbers and they were texting. He
Speaker 3: was like it was really weird, you know, we just
Speaker 3: like past each other kind of looked back and then
Speaker 3: like it was really like cute and like, I really
Speaker 3: I like him. I'm gonna try to see him if
Speaker 3: I can while I'm here. And then cut too. We
Speaker 3: go to Sinespia that night and the guy was my
Speaker 3: sister's friend. Oh so we literally me and him walked
Speaker 3: up to my sister and her college friend and they
Speaker 3: were like, hey, it's you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Isn't that crazy? So what happened with them?
Speaker 3: It didn't pan out because hashtag gay probably, but uh,
Speaker 3: I mean he was going back. I think they did,
Speaker 3: like maybe get like coffee that week, and it just
Speaker 3: wasn't like a fit fit.
Speaker 1: But like, to me, that's wild. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I know, it's like the same city.
Speaker 3: Obviously there's a chance that that could happen because it happened,
Speaker 3: but like my sister, I live on different parts of town.
Speaker 1: Like, there's like no real reason that is wild.
Speaker 2: Wait, you know what this reminds me of that concerns
Speaker 2: you kind of remember the man that ended up being
Speaker 2: my short term husband in Italy.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So basically what happened was I was on a dating
Speaker 2: app in Naples and I found him and we talked
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then I was like whatever, because
Speaker 2: then we left Naples and then we went to Rome
Speaker 2: and I went on a different dating app and I
Speaker 2: found him there. He was in Naples visiting his family,
Speaker 2: and then he lives in Rome.
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of kismet. If I know what
Speaker 3: that word means. You know it sounds right you kissed
Speaker 3: when you met?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, So if you're listening to this.
Speaker 1: Please text me back because we haven't talked in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I've been left on red wait but
Speaker 1: you made it till a couple of weeks ago. That's long. Ow.
Speaker 1: We FaceTime still frequently.
Speaker 2: Well, well not frequently anyway, Zach, thanks for doing this.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thanks for When I got the call,
Speaker 3: I was I was floored. I was honored. I mean hello, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you owe me now, thanks for doing this. You're amazing.
Speaker 3: And tell people where they can listen to your show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have a sex show on Netflix's a
Speaker 3: joke radio on Serious XM. It's called After Hours with
Speaker 3: Zach Noe Towers. You can get episodes wherever you find
Speaker 3: your podcast, like after It's on Serious for a minute.
Speaker 3: They put it on like Apple and Spotify and stuff. Also,
Speaker 3: we're doing a live version of the show for the
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Speaker 1: Oh well, thanks for doing this anytime. Love ya, love you.
Speaker 1: That's what your shirt will say and your stuff bear
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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee.
Speaker 1: Associate producer is.
Speaker 2: The alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound
Speaker 2: designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is
Speaker 2: the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair
Speaker 2: raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the
Speaker 2: spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.
Speaker 2: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
Speaker 2: Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hard Stark, and the
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