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Speaker 1: Everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air Tours, Jason Martin,

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Speaker 1: we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of NFL preseason to get to, plenty of college

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Speaker 1: football to look ahead to. By the way, j mart

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Speaker 1: when we get on air next week, there will be

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Speaker 1: college football, like real games that matter, not not this

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Speaker 1: preseason Trey Lance nonsense, Like real games that really matter.

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Speaker 2: In the Great Slate. But yes, well you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Talk about Iowa State Kansas State like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not saying we're I mean, we're nuts,

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Speaker 2: so we're gonna watch that, but I mean we gotta

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Speaker 2: we gotta couch it just a little bit. I can't

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Speaker 2: let down my expectations. My expectations need to be where

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Speaker 2: they should be. But yes, we are gonna have real

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Speaker 2: football toccounts which it which is a special thing.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you can't watch Week one, so you gotta soak

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Speaker 1: up Iowa State Kansas State like it's LSU Clemson in Miami,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Bro I did realize, however, all right, so the way

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Speaker 2: this whole thing sets up, Friday, not gonna get to

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Speaker 2: see anything but Saturday. I'm done with what I have

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Speaker 2: to do by five. Okay, So basically I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: on the road, but I'm gonna be in a hotel

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Speaker 2: so I will be able to watch some games Saturday night, thankfully,

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Speaker 2: And then Sunday We're gonna be probably in a hotel

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Speaker 2: Sunday evening, not trying to make the entire drive back.

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Speaker 2: We'll probably come back on Monday or finish the drive

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Speaker 2: on Monday, so I'll be able to watch the Sunday

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Speaker 2: night game, most likely from a hotel as well. So

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Speaker 2: I realize now I'm gonna get to see more of

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Speaker 2: this than I originally thought, and look that for me

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Speaker 2: that counts. Maybe I'm not gonna miss it at all, thankfully.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we found out last week j Mart unfortunately as

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Speaker 1: a conflict on Labor Day weekend, so he will not

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Speaker 1: be with us two Saturdays from now. I assume it'll

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Speaker 1: be either already span her Chris blank in with me.

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Speaker 1: I'll be watching it. I did get the whole today

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Speaker 1: from the wife. Oh are we do anything day? Family

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Speaker 1: wants to know. I was like, yeah, no, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: booked from Labor Day on until just to like just

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Speaker 1: till like February and of March. You know, no big

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Speaker 1: deal other than that. So so she she's she's pretty

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Speaker 1: good though she got it. She may be away, so

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Speaker 1: it might be torres ryding solo Labor Day weekends. So

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Speaker 1: it might even be watching more football than I was anticipating.

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Speaker 1: But two weeks from today, week one week zero is

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Speaker 1: a week from today, NFL preseason is still going on.

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Speaker 1: I just want to hit out some news and notes

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Speaker 1: from Saturday. We are not gonna overreact, we are not

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Speaker 1: gonna anoint anyone anything, but there were half a dozen

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Speaker 1: or so games and just want to kind of get

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Speaker 1: your take on a few things. J Mart I think

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest story I would argue from the day

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Speaker 1: might not be a story at all. It might be

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Speaker 1: a story.

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Plumb.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know what she do.

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Speaker 2: Oh she said that what she said about Kaitlyn Clark

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Speaker 2: and that All Star post game press conference steel was

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Speaker 2: just this a joke that went wrong. Trying to explain

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Speaker 2: I'm always trying to create levity in the situation.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing how the jokes that go wrong are only

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Speaker 1: directed at Cato Clark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them, doesn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And John Matteer's Venmo account but that's another conversation for

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Speaker 1: another day.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll save John Matteer's Venmo for hour four. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this really quick on MATEI, because it's not a

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Speaker 1: topic whatever. I am kind of amazed in this like

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Speaker 1: like you know, over beers on the couch, that probably

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Speaker 1: isn't traceable. I just thought it was interesting, like this

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, if you we don't have to

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Speaker 2: God, look, man, I mean some stories, some stories are

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Speaker 2: it felt like to me. This one just felt like, Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna since the Naked Gun reboot just came out,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go full Leslie Nielson and say.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, keep it moving, yes.

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Speaker 2: Move along while everything's going on in the background.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what it felt like to me. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's much else to add, because Oklahoma and

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Speaker 1: Here's my question, is Matthew Stafford's back a story to you?

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Speaker 2: J Marts.

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Speaker 1: I'll be quick on this, but there was supposed to

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Speaker 1: did not happen. But Stafford's not practicing. He's certainly not

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Speaker 1: playing in these preseason games. In your mind, big deal,

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Speaker 2: This is something between deal and big deal for me

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Speaker 2: Joe on Thursday. I said, he's going to be perpetually questionable. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think this matters. I do that not because he's

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Speaker 1: The other thing that's interesting to me about Stafford, correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. It was this. It was this

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Speaker 1: under it's not unconditional, right, Like the Chiefs are like

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Speaker 1: but we're not committing to you long term. We're not

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Speaker 1: So that's another variable with Stafford as well as I

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Speaker 1: so I'm with you. It does feel to me like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's unfortunate for the Rams, but

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's I wouldn't call it brittle,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Let's switch gears. I just

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Speaker 1: This after a game earlier in the preseason where he

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Speaker 1: a preseason is concerned to you, does any of this matter?

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Speaker 1: Is it important? Is it only the quote unquote Coote preseason?

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Speaker 1: Does none of it matter? Jackson Dart looking pretty good

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you do have to couch it to

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Speaker 2: some extent, but at the same time, sure it matters

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Speaker 2: a little bit. It doesn't matter for rookie quarterbacks, especially

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Speaker 2: and he hasn't done that yet. He looks in command

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Speaker 2: I said sometime between Halloween and Thanksgiving, I could see

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Speaker 2: San Francisco at home on November second. That seems like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's a lot more

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So Dylan Gabriel did play, Shdor Sanders didn't. And Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, Jay Bart, that's what we

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Speaker 1: who was actually the acting head coach this evening, Aubrey Pleasant.

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Speaker 1: You know, Sean McVay likes to kind of give his

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Speaker 1: no scholarship bands, and most importantly, no one is claiming

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Speaker 1: that they did not win that twenty twenty three twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four national championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm just kind of blown away with some

436
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Speaker 2: of the writing and like how this has been talked

437
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Speaker 2: about today, in particular, just over this last twenty four

438
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Speaker 2: hour span or so. It seems like a lot of

439
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Speaker 2: pretty big name reporters are just trying to come take

440
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Speaker 2: their pound of flesh at Jim Harball left and right

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Kind of shocked by it, especially with where college football

444
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Speaker 2: finds itself now and just the history of the sport

445
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Speaker 2: and all this kind of stuff. It's like everybody is

446
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Speaker 2: almost reveling in the NCAA of all things, coming out

447
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Speaker 2: and levying this against Michigan, and here comes probably a

448
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Speaker 2: thirty million dollar fine and probably should have been postseason banned,

449
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Speaker 2: and all this other kind of stuff that's coming through.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Stallions is obviously a nefarious character and

451
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Speaker 2: also not a particularly smart one based on just how

452
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Speaker 2: much they were able to find here and all this

453
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Speaker 2: stuff and the Charon War thing, it doesn't matter that

454
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Speaker 2: much just because you look at the three game. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna miss He's gonna be all right, Michigan's probably

456
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Speaker 2: likely to be fine in those situations as well. I'm

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Speaker 2: just I was very much I felt like you were

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Speaker 2: much more on the Michigan side of things originally than

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Speaker 2: I was. And as we've gotten further into this, and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's just because of where college football is now

461
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Speaker 2: even than when we were first talking about this, I

462
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Speaker 2: have gotten to where I'm almost just shrugging my shoulders,

463
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Speaker 2: like I don't care like this, this this whole thing

464
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Speaker 2: just feels like it was blown way out of proportion,

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Speaker 2: Like why are we blowing it out of proportion? Now?

466
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Speaker 2: Like you know, Stuart Mandel says Michigan loses its integrity.

467
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Speaker 2: That's the headline of what he's saying. And Ian O'Connor

468
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Speaker 2: went even further with just kind of almost like laughing

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Speaker 2: at Jim Harbaugh and talking about how he always loved

470
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Speaker 2: John Moore. It's like, what are we doing here, Guys,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't understand this at all, and like, aha,

472
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Speaker 2: he can't coach in college football again until he's seventy four,

473
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Speaker 2: a lifetime ban. It's like, Okay, good for you. That's great.

474
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Speaker 2: They still won that title. They're not taking it away.

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Speaker 2: They're not vacating any wins. Thirty million dollars is a

476
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Speaker 2: drop in the bucket for Michigan. They I think it's

477
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Speaker 2: like over two hundred and fifty million dollars a year

478
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Speaker 2: that they are bringing in. So I don't think the

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Speaker 2: thirty mil is going to break the bank or anything

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Speaker 2: like that. Sure, they'd probably not like to pay it,

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Speaker 2: but essentially it means virtually nothing in the end. Actually,

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Speaker 2: when I first read it and I saw thirty million dollars,

483
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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that was worth every penny. Oh yeah,

484
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like eve worst case scenario,

485
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Speaker 2: right that they completely let's just obviously go further than

486
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Speaker 2: any evidence would show and just say they cheated completely

487
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Speaker 2: throughout that whole deal and all they got Slaptos was

488
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Speaker 2: thirty mil and their coach is already in the NFL

489
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Speaker 2: in the job that he already wanted anyway, but you

490
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Speaker 2: got your championship out of it, like and basically flip

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Speaker 2: the script on Ohio State for a few years on

492
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Speaker 2: the way, Like, Yeah, I think that was probably worth

493
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Speaker 2: that juice was worth the Connor Stallion squeeze, quite frankly,

494
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Speaker 2: is how it comes across. But I just and I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say

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Speaker 2: about this. I'm just kind of blown away by just

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Speaker 2: the level of sanctimony that I am seeing from sports media,

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Speaker 2: sports reporters, sports especially just a lot of article writers,

499
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Speaker 2: a lot of big names. There's just a lot of

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Speaker 2: sanctimonious drivel coming out about this that really rubs me

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Speaker 2: the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually agree with that. That's actually been

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise to me. Is I

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Speaker 1: thought it was like, oh, none of us care about

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Speaker 1: the NCAA. And I'll also just say this, and apparently

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Speaker 1: I was wrong. I thought we all kind of just

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Speaker 1: agreed I think two things. And by the way, there's

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Speaker 1: a great Joel Klatt video that that surfaces on social

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Speaker 1: media that that I don't know exactly what the caption

510
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Speaker 1: would be, but he basically explained and time he's like, look,

511
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Speaker 1: war rules broken, yes, but he's like some of these people,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you understand. Like the point that he made,

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Speaker 1: and I think he was right, was that basically, the

514
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Speaker 1: less you know about football, the bigger of a deal

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Speaker 1: it feels. And he just used the example. He's like,

516
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Speaker 1: I see people breaking down this clip and it's like

517
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Speaker 1: it's third and eleven and Michigan knew a pass was coming.

518
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Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, they knew a pass was coming

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Speaker 1: because it was third and eleven. It wasn't because they

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Speaker 1: had like, you know, the whole playbook on their wristband,

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Speaker 1: you know. And so I feel like we I thought

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Speaker 1: during that season it was a big thing in the moment,

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Speaker 1: and I even remember coming on with you. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Michigan State, maybe that they played right out

525
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Speaker 1: of the by or maybe it was right I can't remember,

526
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Speaker 1: but I remember it felt really big and then they

527
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Speaker 1: came out of a by kicked the crap out of everybody.

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Speaker 1: And then most notably they beat Penn State Ohio State

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Speaker 1: one without Jim Harbaugh, and then two they beat him.

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Speaker 1: Period three they go to the playoff and beat Alabama

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Speaker 1: and Washington. These are all games after Connor Stallions had

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Speaker 1: been fired, and so I felt like in real time

533
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Speaker 1: everybody was kind of over it in real time, like, Okay,

534
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Speaker 1: it felt big in the moment, and I'm sure you

535
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Speaker 1: can probably find clips of me the show we did

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Speaker 1: after the first report came out saying it's a huge deal,

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Speaker 1: and then you kind of start to realize to some

538
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Speaker 1: degree everybody's stealing signs. And two, their four biggest wins

539
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Speaker 1: came without this supposed huge secret weapon that they had,

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Speaker 1: And it turns out, oh, by the way, they were

541
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Speaker 1: just a freaking awesome football team. Thirteen guys drafted off

542
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Speaker 1: of that team, by the way, what three more in

543
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Speaker 1: the first round this year? We had Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant,

544
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Speaker 1: and Coleston Lovelin, so three more. Will Johnson would have

545
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Speaker 1: been a fourth one if he hadn't been hurt all seasons.

546
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Speaker 1: So essentially it was just a great team. It felt

547
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Speaker 1: like in the moment we all acknowledged Okay, it felt big,

548
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Speaker 1: but when you beat Penn State, Ohio State, Alabama, Washington

549
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Speaker 1: two of those games without your head coach, then it's

550
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Speaker 1: just that you're a really good football team. And then

551
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Speaker 1: I felt like, I guess it would have been middle

552
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Speaker 1: of the week when you start to hear there's some

553
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Speaker 1: punishment coming. We reverted back to the day that the

554
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Speaker 1: report came out and started acting like it was the

555
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Speaker 1: biggest deal again. So I guess to your point, I

556
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Speaker 1: was absolutely surprised by the reaction because I feel like

557
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Speaker 1: even people that covered the sport kind of just didn't

558
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Speaker 1: think it was a big deal when it was all

559
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Speaker 1: said and done. And lastly, what I would say is,

560
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Speaker 1: and I think this is important. I think it's a

561
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Speaker 1: huge piece of this that nobody talks about. You could say, oh,

562
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Speaker 1: the punishment whatever, blah blah blah. But what is always

563
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Speaker 1: the punishment, Jame, What is always the complaint about these

564
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Speaker 1: punishments for college football? It's that, oh, you break a rule,

565
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: you get to do whatever, and then you're punished four

566
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Speaker 1: or five years down the road, and it has no

567
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: wat in real time. Well, never forget the Big ten

568
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: made the literal, unprecedented decision during the season without an

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Speaker 1: investigation to suspend Jim Harball for three games, which happened

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: to be the three biggest games of the year. So like,

571
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Speaker 1: to me, they already had an extreme punishment in real

572
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Speaker 1: time that no one talks about and they survive that

573
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Speaker 1: and whatever. So that's a long winded way of me saying, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised by the reaction. By the way, the NCAA

575
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Speaker 1: was never vacating the national championship. It just was never

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. They were never giving out a postseason ban

577
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Speaker 1: because they've said publicly they don't do that anymore. So like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think a fine when you factor in that Jim

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Speaker 1: Harball was suspended for the three biggest games of the year,

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Speaker 1: it seems fine to me. It seems like more than enough.

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Speaker 1: But again, yeah, I think to me, your point is

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Speaker 1: well taken. Is that my biggest surprise is that is

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Speaker 1: the reaction to it. I don't know just the reaction

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Speaker 1: to it. And I'll toss it back to you. We

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Speaker 1: got to be quick because we got to get to

586
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Speaker 1: brief for the update. But any final thoughts, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, you know, I'll tell you what, j Mart,

588
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: why don't we come back. We'll continue this conversation after breaks.

589
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Speaker 1: I think there's more meat on the bone. But before

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Speaker 1: we do it, though, let's get to what's trending. Apparently

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Speaker 1: Arnie gave Disager the night off, so Bree Moro is

592
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Speaker 1: in for Disagre. Just kidding. Disager will be in before

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Speaker 1: the end of our show. Brie, what is trending here

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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty eight Eastern Time on a Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Alrighty guys, So the last scheme of Week two the

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Speaker 7: NFL preseason. The Broncos are on top of the Cardinals

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Speaker 7: twenty four to seven. Jarrett Sidham and Troy Franklin have

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Speaker 7: connected twice for two touchdowns, so that's good. Earlier, Stetson

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Speaker 7: Bennett showed out for the Rams and they defeated the

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Speaker 7: Chargers twenty three to twenty two, just ten seconds left

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Speaker 7: to go in the game, an eight yard touchdown pass

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Speaker 7: to True Edward Wards. Stetson Bennett finished twenty eight to

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Speaker 7: forty three hundred and twenty four yards, three touchdowns, and

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Speaker 7: one pick. The Giants defeated the Jets thirty one to twelve.

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Speaker 7: Jackson Dart looked great fourteen to sixteen, one hundred and

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Speaker 7: thirty seven yards and one touchdown. The Ravens beat the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys thirty one at thirteen, and it's just it's amusing

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Speaker 7: that the Cowboys offense wasn't really involved. But Brent Brandon

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Speaker 7: Aubrey made up seven of those points Andrew Booth with

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Speaker 7: the pick six Cowboys offense zero points. So that's very

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Speaker 7: typical Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the last time we're going to

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Speaker 1: get some sort of stat like that throughout this Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well also, and then Cooper Rush like kind of

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Speaker 7: how the like, you know, ex girlfriend kind of vibe

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Speaker 7: came in sure, So he looked at twentyeth third well decent.

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Speaker 7: Cooper Rush looked good as he could look twenty at

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Speaker 7: thirty one hundred and ninety eight yards, two touchdowns and

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Speaker 7: one interception. Joe Milton looked pretty rough nine to eighteen,

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Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty two yards and one pick. In

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball, the Dodgers are shutting out the padre

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Speaker 7: Is six to zero, top of the ninth inning.

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Speaker 1: The Brewers set a.

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Speaker 7: Franchise record with fourteen consecutive wins after beating the Reds

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Speaker 7: and extra inning six to five, and the Braves have

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Speaker 7: won four straight after they defeated the Cardinals ten to one.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thank you very much, Brie. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate your help. De Sega will be in at some

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Speaker 1: point this evening. He of course, was covering the Rams

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Speaker 1: Chargers game at SOFI Stadium. Tell you what, Ja mart

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Speaker 1: coming up, we will continue the conversation on Michigan. I

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Speaker 1: went long. I couldn't shut up, but I want to

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Speaker 1: hear what you have to say about what I had

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Speaker 1: to say. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radios.

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Speaker 1: mart I went a little long. I apologize talking Michigan.

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Speaker 1: So obviously the news coming out on Friday that Michigan's

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Speaker 1: Michigan has been fined thirty million dollars for the counter

648
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Speaker 1: Stallions sign stealing scandal. Jim Harbaugh also hit with a

649
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Speaker 1: ten year ban from coaching college football. He was never

650
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Speaker 1: coming back, but the banner isn't coming down, wins aren't

651
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Speaker 1: being vacated, no postseason bands, and it seems like, you know, listen,

652
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Speaker 1: who knows how what percentage, but I think there is

653
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Speaker 1: a percentage of fans that are upset that more wasn't done.

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Speaker 1: I think both of us feel like the biggest surprise

655
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Speaker 1: has been sanctimonious reaction from some of the media. So

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Speaker 1: I'll kind of give you the floor because I am

657
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Speaker 1: surprised by the reaction from the people and you know this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just been a weird vibe. I'll go

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Speaker 1: ahead and give you the floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, we've we know some of

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Speaker 2: these people or we have you know, talked to them

662
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Speaker 2: through the years and things like that. But like, I

663
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Speaker 2: just felt like this story sort of had run its course.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and that's why it kind of surprised me.

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Speaker 2: It almost tells me there's not anything else going on. Sure,

666
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Speaker 2: it almost tells me that some people needed something and

667
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Speaker 2: so they are just salivating. Like sometimes my dog, you know,

668
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Speaker 2: she just it doesn't even matter what I tried to

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Speaker 2: give her. It doesn't matter. She just needed something. Like

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Speaker 2: it might even be something that she might I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think she might like every food. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen her turn anything down. But at the

673
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Speaker 2: same time, like there's a difference between the thing I

674
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Speaker 2: know she absolutely loves, like her dessert treat or whatever,

675
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: her vanilla ice cream, and like, I don't know, something

676
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Speaker 2: completely random, and this just felt like, yeah, this was

677
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Speaker 2: like some stale toast or something like that, but still

678
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Speaker 2: just lapped it up because had to have something. There

679
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Speaker 2: was meat on this bone, so we had to just

680
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Speaker 2: go ahead and pick it dry it just like I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see this kind of energy even originally when

682
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Speaker 2: this story was going on, Like I saw it like

683
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Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks as we talked about but

684
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Speaker 2: as it kept on playing out, like when the Connor

685
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Speaker 2: Stallion's documentary came out, I didn't see this kind of energy.

686
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Speaker 2: I didn't see any of that kind of stuff. So

687
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Speaker 2: and that's over a year old, so now all of

688
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Speaker 2: a sudden, this pops out on you know, August fifteenth

689
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and now everybody is writing as if finally

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Speaker 2: they got him, Like like I don't get it, Like

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't make sense, Like there's not there's not

692
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Speaker 2: been a consistency in how this has been covered, applied,

693
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Speaker 2: reported on, talked about any of that. So I kind

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Speaker 2: of I attributed. When I first saw that this was

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Speaker 2: coming out on Friday, I was like, I kind of

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Speaker 2: even I just sort of rolled my eyes as a

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Speaker 2: sort of a nothing burger at this point, like Harbaugh's

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Speaker 2: already moved on, all the parties involved pretty much have

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't since there's gonna be anything major

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Speaker 2: coming out of this, I don't know that there should

701
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Speaker 2: be at this point, you know, kind of all the

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Speaker 2: stuff that you laid out and then it comes out.

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Speaker 2: Now there's like article after article after article trying to

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Speaker 2: bury Jim Harbaugh and Burry Michigan and say they have

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Speaker 2: no integrity and all this stuff. It's just it doesn't

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Speaker 2: add up, Like it doesn't it doesn't pass the smell test.

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Speaker 2: To me. It feels completely artificial, probably pretty fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know what else there is to say,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I think the other thing that gets that

710
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Speaker 1: doesn't get factored in. They were punished in real time

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Speaker 1: with that three game harball suspension. I was gonna save

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Speaker 1: and we can revisit this topic in our three but

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Speaker 1: very quickly, your thoughts on the news that broke earlier

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Speaker 1: today in the world of college football. Big ten proposes

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Speaker 1: twenty four our twenty eight team college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: We need all of next hour to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah, we'll save it for

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Speaker 1: later in the show. But that's a tease. I'll just

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Speaker 1: be quick on it. Is one everyone has all sorts

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Speaker 1: of proposals. I wonder how many just are out there.

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Speaker 1: I also just wonder if this is, you know, like

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Speaker 1: the typical negotiating tactic where it's just like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, what we really want. This is

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Speaker 1: what we really want, so we're gonna throw something out

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Speaker 1: crazy so when we get what we actually want, people

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Speaker 1: won't be too upset. But you know, the Big ten

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Speaker 1: and SEC kind of seemed to be at an impass

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Speaker 1: at how do we get to a sixteen team playoff?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: To be clear, I think twelve is kind of the

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Speaker 1: maximum that we kind of need. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: need sixteen, but that was kind of besides just the

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Speaker 1: stupidity of it all. And again, we'll well have plenty

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Speaker 1: of time to revisit it here in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I wonder if it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: negotiating ploy on behalf of the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: And I hope so, yeah, I hope so, because if

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Speaker 2: we're about to double this field, I'm like, we're gonna

739
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Speaker 2: get to the point where this sport not only does

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Speaker 2: doesn't even remind you of what it used to be,

741
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Speaker 2: but there is no point in the regular season anymore.

742
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Speaker 2: Like we eventually we got to get to that point.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at some of the specifics and

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Speaker 2: we can jump into them in the next hour, like

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Speaker 2: some of the ideas that they're throwing out, it's like,

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Speaker 2: you guys can't be serious, right, Like we don't need

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Speaker 2: seven teams from these conferences getting bids into this playoff.

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Speaker 2: Like the playoff needs to be exclusive. You need to

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Speaker 2: earn it. And last year I didn't feel like, at

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Speaker 2: least for the most part, of the games that were

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Speaker 2: played still felt like they all mattered. And the more

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Speaker 2: you dilute this, the worse it gets. And there is

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Speaker 2: not a universe where there are twenty eight teams, twenty

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Speaker 2: four teams, twenty teams that have a chance to win

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Speaker 2: a national championship. So there's no reason to open it

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Speaker 2: up that deep when the sport is not that deep.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have much else to add, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I say this all the time. I'm somebody that

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Speaker 1: does love college basketball. I also understand that most people

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Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the regular season because the regular

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Speaker 1: season just doesn't matter. By the way, it's not just

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Speaker 1: college basketball, it's the NBA too, It's Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: And I keep going back to it, and I've said

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Speaker 1: this and I even felt it in the twelve team

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Speaker 1: playoff era, But it's just like all these other sports

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Speaker 1: are trying to figure out ways to capture people in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. We just had the baseball game at

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Speaker 1: Bristol Motor Speedway a few weeks ago. We have the

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Speaker 1: in season tournament that no one still understands or cares

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Speaker 1: about three years into the NBA. WNBA has some sort

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Speaker 1: of midseason cup as well. It's like college football has

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Speaker 1: and had certainly maybe has still the best regular season

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Speaker 1: in sports, and they keep trying to dilute it. So

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio air tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios, tell you what, Jamart, why

776
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Speaker 1: don't we come back and talk more? College football season

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Speaker 1: is a week away. We got to get to our

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Speaker 1: biggest storylines and much much more. This is Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: our two tours Martin, Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, taking it up

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Speaker 1: till two am Eastern Time. Bernie Freddo off The Bernie

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Speaker 1: Frado Show follows us. Cannot wait to hear what Bernie

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Speaker 1: has to say about a busy week in sports. Two

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Speaker 1: weeks basically done of NFL preseason with one to go.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we are officially on college football watched

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Speaker 1: it's technically Sun on the East Coast, so we just

788
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Speaker 1: survived our last Saturday on the East Coast without football.

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Speaker 1: Basically that's the last Saturday without football until late January.

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Speaker 1: So between college football and the NFL. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of college football, a lot of NFL coming up, and

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Speaker 1: you can feel it in the air. It's a very

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Speaker 1: very very exciting time. Week zero a week from today.

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Speaker 1: Markey Game Top twenty five matchup Kansas State, Iowa State

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Speaker 1: in Dublin. Then things get going. Week one that loaded

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Speaker 1: slate Texas, Ohio State on Fox, Florida State, Alabama, Clemson, LSU,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame Miami on Sunday night. A busy, busy, busy

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Speaker 1: Week one. So I'll tell you what, Jamart, what I

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Speaker 1: want to do over the next ten to fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: just talk about the things that we are most intrigued

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Speaker 1: by coming into this college football season. Mary, give us

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Speaker 1: a little music. You want to go first, Jay, Marty,

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Speaker 1: you want me to.

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Speaker 2: Go first, You go first?

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you a layup on this one.

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Speaker 1: I am intrigued by Penn State only because you and

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00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: I have been on this boat. And listen, it's not

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Speaker 1: like you and I, like everyone in college football has

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Speaker 1: James Franklin one and eighteen against top five teams in

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Speaker 1: his time as the head coach at Penn State. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I understand when you're playing top five teams,

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Speaker 1: that's really good. But listen, this is the year like

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Speaker 1: there are just you know, to quote wedding crashers, no excuses,

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Speaker 1: play like a champion. They bring back Drew Aler and

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Speaker 1: no matter what you think about how good Drew Aller is.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's got a first year quarterback, Oregon's got a

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Speaker 1: first year quarterback, Michigan might be starting a true freshman

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. So it's like there's just no excuses, and

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Speaker 1: so you could take it wherever you want. J Mart

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Speaker 1: the last thing too, let me let me just say

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Speaker 1: one more thing, because I think there's this notion. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ohio State did it last year and Michigan

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Speaker 1: did the year before, and they they they themselves had

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Speaker 1: kind of their own demons to slay. Michigan hadn't won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. Obviously, we know about Ryan dave struggles.

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Speaker 1: But like I'll say this, Michigan had beaten Ohio State

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Speaker 1: two years in a row coming into that championship year

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Speaker 1: and obviously a third straight year. That season, they had

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Speaker 1: one big games. They just hadn't gotten over the hump

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Speaker 1: in the playoff. Ohio State. You could say whatever you

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Speaker 1: want about Ryan Day. I think he had a He

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Speaker 1: has much more of a Michigan problem than a big

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Speaker 1: game problem. James Franklin has not really proven he could

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Speaker 1: because because like Ryan Day has proven he can beat

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Speaker 1: good teams. He just hadn't beaten Michigan. James Franklin hasn't

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Speaker 1: proven that he can actually beat anyone of substance. And

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Speaker 1: so that's what I think makes this unique Penn State

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Speaker 1: right up the top of most interesting things in college

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Speaker 1: football coming into this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's one hundred percent sure.

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00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: And look, with the no excuses then should come if

842
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Speaker 2: you don't win the year, what happens with Franklin because

843
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: everything is set, the table is set for them, and

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Speaker 2: barring injury, they really should be one of those kind

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Speaker 2: of teams that you're looking at that can potentially win

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Speaker 2: it all. My first one, I'll try to go a

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Speaker 2: little off the board here from maybe some of the

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Speaker 2: most obvious stuff, even though we can certainly get to

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Speaker 2: that and say how good is Texas Tech going to be? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I like that a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested with all the money obviously that was committed,

852
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Speaker 2: just an insane amount, and it just shows again with

853
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Speaker 2: nil and all of the new ways that teams can

854
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: be built in college football, this is a big time

855
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: test case and it's going to show you know what

856
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: you can do almost overnight in college football now if

857
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Speaker 2: you are willing to commit the dollars. Is it going

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Speaker 2: to amount to a Big Twelve championship, Is it going

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Speaker 2: to amount to the College Football Playoff? How far where

860
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: can this Texas Tech team go and how good will

861
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: they be? I'm fascinated to see how that looks. Considering

862
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: the level of talent and what they've done, just all

863
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: the transfers and everything that they've done. It's obviously they

864
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: are going for broke this year, and I am fascinated

865
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: to see how that plays out well.

866
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing too about Texas Tech is obviously

867
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: a winnable league. Yes, you know, it was one thing

868
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and obviously I think it's fair. But the

869
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: easy comparison is what Texas A and M did in

870
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: high school recruiting a few years ago. But it was like,

871
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: even if that worked out the way A and M

872
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: had hoped, and it clearly didn't, you still got to

873
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: get through Bama. And this was obviously in a four

874
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: team playoff era. You still got to get through Georgia whatever.

875
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, you know that there is a very manageable

876
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: pathway to win the Big Twelve. Big Twelve, by the way,

877
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: a very good conference. There's just no dominant teams Big

878
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: twelve has about five teams ranked in the top twenty

879
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: five going into this year, including Texas Tech. All right,

880
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: I'll keep it going, you know. I'll say I think

881
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: another one that you and I are on the same

882
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: page on. So I've been a Brian Kelly defender. But

883
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: one again, this almost feels like we were talking about Connor

884
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: stallions a few minutes ago. It's like we just we

885
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: have understandings in college football, and then some time passes

886
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: and it's just like we just completely erase what we

887
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: thought that what we knew six months or a year ago. LSU,

888
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: Garrett Nusmeyer was not good last year, and shout out

889
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: to Todd mcshae, who I'm pretty sure has convinced everyone

890
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: that Garrett nus Meyer is like you know whatever, I

891
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: don't even know, like who was good in college footballer

892
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: luck Yeah, Like, and it's like all.

893
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: Of a sudden, he's going to be the greatest thing

894
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. That basically the greatest thing since Trevor

895
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: Lawrence or Joe Burrow.

896
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: Yes, and so I'll just give you the stat Okay,

897
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: so last year twenty nine touchdowns, twelve interceptions in SEC play,

898
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: thirteen tds, eight. I iNTS, Okay, so it's just and

899
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: I and I'll say this like I'm a Brian Kelly defedder.

900
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. There's no excuses this year. But I think

901
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: it's also just giving this completely warped perception of what

902
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: LSU is. Like, you know, I think they're still, to me,

903
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, at best in the third of Like, I

904
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: don't think they're Texas. I don't think they're Georgia. I

905
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: think Bama has a chance to be really good this year.

906
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: And you know, again, do I feel bad for Brian Kelly.

907
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for a dude making ten million

908
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: dollars in year four. But I'll just be transparent spoiler alert.

909
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: I think they're getting smacked in Week one at Clemson

910
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna be like, oh, Brian Kelly, here we

911
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: go in and it's like, one, Clemson is just really good,

912
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: but two, I just think we're just grossly over hyping

913
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: them and more specifically their quarterback coming into this season.

914
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: YEP, I agree with me a million percent with that.

915
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: I was actually gonna suggest that it almost looks like

916
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: mirror images. My next one, which you kind of took

917
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: not exactly was going to be two guys that seemed

918
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: to always be near the college football playoff or in

919
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: it prior to their new jobs and their old jobs,

920
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: whether it was at Oklahoma or at Notre Dame. You

921
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: saw those guys all over the place. And then you

922
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: get to USC and LSU, and neither one of them

923
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: has lived up to the billing thus far, and both

924
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: of them are question marks this year. You and I

925
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: are on the same page on Nussmeyer. Well, I'll go

926
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: to the opposite away and say, what the heck is

927
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: USC going to do this year? And looking at Lincoln Riley,

928
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: like how much longer is that experiment going to continue?

929
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: Because you know, it's not gotten better, it's only gotten worse.

930
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: And we got to see this year, it's not just

931
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: we're going to change how the defense is being done.

932
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring in some new coaching and all this.

933
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 2: None of it has worked. Dude has never been able

934
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: to field a particularly good defense at any point when

935
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: he's been a head coach in the league. So I

936
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: look at the whole deal and I just say, I

937
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: think the USC thing is getting more and more interesting.

938
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: I know a lot of these are centered around coaches.

939
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: That's because these programs so much are built around coaches,

940
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: so I think just the USC of it all to

941
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: match your LSU of it all is also going to

942
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: be another one of those question marks going into the year.

943
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: It's a very random, sort of niche college football thing.

944
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: I do wonder if, like the one hundred million dollar

945
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract is a thing of the past, because

946
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: you're now paying the players so much and it's.

947
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: Just like.

948
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: You can't now, maybe it's not because obviously, whatever we

949
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: think about Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley, now, uh, there's

950
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: a reason that they warranted those contracts, and to get

951
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: Lincoln you were gonna have to do something crazy to

952
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 1: get him to leave Oklahoma. I just wonder if those

953
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: contracts are going to be a thing of the future,

954
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: because it's just it just puts you in such a

955
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: bad spot if you you know, it just puts you

956
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: in such a bad spot if it doesn't go the

957
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: way that you expect. And again to your point, Lincoln

958
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: Riley definitely disappointing, LSU, Brian Kelly, it's been disappointing. I

959
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: don't think it's getting better. I think it'll be interesting.

960
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: How about this, J Mart, I'd go a lot of

961
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: different directions. One let me do this one. I think

962
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: the lesson that I learned last year from the twelve

963
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: team college football Playoff is that, like, I think we

964
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: look at at the twelve best teams on paper in

965
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: the preseason and we kind of say, okay, like this

966
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: is who it's gonna be in the playoff, and then

967
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: you just realize that schedules matter so much and you

968
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: could be really good and just have a really bad

969
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: schedule and it's gonna hurt you, and you could be

970
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: maybe good but not great, but if you have the

971
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: right schedule in the right breaks, you could get there.

972
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of pushback on a

973
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: team like Indiana didn't really play anybody. There's going to

974
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: be in Indiana or SMU that gets into the playoff.

975
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not claiming I know who it is, because

976
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: if we knew who it was, it wouldn't have been

977
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: a surprise. But I just think, you know, there's gonna

978
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: be somebody that's either not in the top twenty five

979
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: or you know, like I'll give you an example, and

980
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they're the team, but Tennessee's ranked number

981
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: twenty four in the preseason. We all know the quarterback whatever,

982
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: but it's like, if you actually look at the schedule, Yeah,

983
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: they got Georgia and Bama, but they also have Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas,

984
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: and Mississippi State, the four teams that were picked at

985
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: the bottom of that league. And so I just bring

986
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: it up because someone is gonna get a scheduling break

987
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: that leads them to ten or eleven wins in the

988
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Big Ten or the SEC and they're going to get

989
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: in the playoff, whether they're actually good enough or not.

990
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: So I think another one might be what is Nicolo

991
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: going to do at UCLA? Just to go with the

992
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: you mentioned Tennessee there, and obviously Tennessee taking UCLA's quarterback

993
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: as well, that'll be interesting. But just Nico and everything

994
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: that has gone wrong for him and his family, in

995
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: my opinion since leaving Knoxville, I'm just curious to see

996
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: what he actually looks like on the field at UCLA

997
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: now that he's home, which he said is why he

998
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: went there, which we all laugh off and good luck

999
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: with that when you were also reaching out to old

1000
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: miss Yeah, I I just want to see what he

1001
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: can do. I mean, there were certainly flashes last year,

1002
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: but there was still a lot of growth that needed

1003
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: to come. And now he's going into a completely new

1004
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: system across the country, playing in a different conference that's

1005
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: going to have no love for him. So I I, uh,

1006
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: this is certainly going to be interesting to see that one.

1007
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: All right, since we did a lot of coaching stuff,

1008
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: I'll give you a quarterback as well. And by the way,

1009
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by Nico as well. I don't think he's

1010
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: gonna be good, and I think that story is just

1011
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna get worse and worse as the season goes on.

1012
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: I agree.

1013
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: So I'm just interested, and I'll be honest, I don't

1014
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: know that at this moment in time, I have a

1015
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: definitive strong take on how it's gonna go. I will

1016
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: say this though, two years ago, Carson Beck was good,

1017
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: and so I just bring it up. He certainly regressed

1018
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: last year by the way Georgia led the nation and

1019
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: drops I'm not saying whatever. He certainly regressed last year.

1020
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: Two years ago, he did throw for twenty four touchdown,

1021
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: six interceptions, seventy three percent completion percentage. Like he has

1022
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: proven to be a good college quarterback. Now, the talent

1023
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: around him will be good at Miami, but not great.

1024
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: And he is coming off like, oh, I don't know,

1025
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: his entire elbow got shredded up. But I think, because

1026
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: let's just put it this way, he doesn't strike people

1027
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: as maybe the most most likable guy, it feels kind

1028
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: of easy to kind of just disparage him and oh,

1029
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: he sucks and he's this and he's that. I don't

1030
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: think he's terrible, But what does that mean? You know,

1031
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Miami's got you know, they're an interesting team in the

1032
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: ACC probably ten and two, maybe eleven and one is

1033
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: going to have to you know, they're they're gonna have

1034
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: to do that to get to the College Football Playoff.

1035
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: They play Florid in the out of conference No Clemson

1036
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: in the regular season. I'm just curious. I'm not saying

1037
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: I know how it's going to go. I'm just intrigued.

1038
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: That's all two lowest hanging fruits surprise we haven't mentioned.

1039
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: We won't get through the segment without mentioning them here.

1040
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick in North Carolina and Arch Manning. Those two

1041
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: are probably the two that are the easiest ones to

1042
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: actually point out and say, everybody wants to see what

1043
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: Arch is going to be able to do now that

1044
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: it's his show with a team that many believe are

1045
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: going to win the national championship and who are favored

1046
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: to win the national championship. And then we have already

1047
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: discussed that North Carolina schedule is very, very easy. But

1048
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: just what else is going to go on? I mean,

1049
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson's calling local reporters in Charlotte and doing awful interviews.

1050
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what her deal is, but they need

1051
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: to keep her away from public eye in general and

1052
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: tell her to stop calling people and fixing narratives and

1053
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: all this. That whole situation is weird. Maybe the schedule

1054
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: might not be easy enough to get completely rid of

1055
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 2: all of the just craziness that is going on down there.

1056
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: So obviously North Carolina and arch Manning or top of

1057
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: mind as soon as the season starts.

1058
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 1: I'll throw you a quick curveball on the arch Manning thing,

1059
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: just to just for fun, just to kind of wrap

1060
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: the segment. So we know they're playing Ohio State week one.

1061
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: Do you know who Ohio State's new defensive coordinator is?

1062
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Off top of your head?

1063
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: No?

1064
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So Jim Knowles was a defensive coordinator. He went

1065
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: to Penn State. Ohio State's new defensive coordinator is Matt Patricia.

1066
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: So my whole thing, and I'll say this really quick,

1067
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: is last year Ohio State had so much talent and

1068
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: by the way, like we ragged on Ryan Day, credit

1069
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 1: to him, they turned it on when it mattered, deserving

1070
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: national champion. Whatever you think of Chip Kelly the head coach,

1071
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: he is a great offensive coordinator, he's off to the NFL.

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00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: You're replace him with Brian Hartline, who was on the staff.

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00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: Receivers coach gets bumped up, and then defense Matt Patricia'

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00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: is the defense coordinator. So basically an offensive coordinator with

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00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: no experience and Matt Patricia, which I just don't even

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00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: know what to make of. And I think that's like

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: the interesting thing with Ohio State is kind of we

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: talked about all the players that they lost. I don't

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00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: know what to make of either of those coordinators, and

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00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 1: whatever we think of Ryan Day, like they had, whatever

1081
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 1: you think of whatever, they had two great coordinators last year.

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously Matt Patricia, his big brain, is

1083
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: going up against Archer Manning in Week one, So I

1084
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: think that's an interesting way to frame that game. You

1085
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we do into the Ryan Day point. I

1087
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: think it's interesting that they were coming to the season

1088
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: where it's just more important that they go ahead and

1089
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: beat Michigan than anything else. Yeah, they won the championship

1090
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: last year, so I think that created a lot of equity.

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: I think the pressure is off of him in many

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00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: ways compared to what it's been the last handful of years,

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00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: except that Michigan game. Like, I think that's the most

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00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: important game on their schedule, even including the College Football

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: Playoff to a lot of Ohio State fans.

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00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting how that works is that last

1097
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: year they beat O, they lost to Michigan, but it

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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: didn't matter because they won the championship. Now, I think

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00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of the opposite. We don't really care, you know,

1100
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: like like we're gonna, we're gonna you know, right, you know, uh,

1101
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, you get some positive momentum off of the

1102
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: National Championship, but you do gotta beat Michigan. Like if

1103
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: they go eleven and one lose to save Penn State,

1104
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: but they beat Michigan and then lose in the playoff,

1105
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: I think fan base is fine. You lose to Michigan.

1106
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: Even if you get to the playoff, I think there's

1107
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna be some frustration. So yeah, those are some things

1108
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: that we are looking forward to cover a lot of

1109
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: ground in about eighteen minutes there, jail, So I am

1110
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: so excited. Week zero next Saturday. Week one is two

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00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: weeks from tonight. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next,

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00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: we go from college to the NFL AFC East Bills, Jets, Patriots,

1114
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: even already Spaniards, Miami Dolphins. What do we make of them?

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: We'll discuss the AFC East next.

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00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,400
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio ertors

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:04,120
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00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,840
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Speaker 1: that little bell. Yeah, make sure you get that done.

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you what, Jamart. Let's keep the

1131
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: conversation going. Fun conversation. We just had on the state

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00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: of college football. Two weeks out from week one, one

1133
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: week out from week zero. But we have been doing

1134
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: over underwing total picks for every single team in the NFL.

1135
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: At this point, we've done the entire NFC. If you

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00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: missed any of those, go back and download our podcast.

1137
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: We did NFC North, NFC East, NFC South, and NFC West.

1138
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: Today we switch gears to the AFC, will start in

1139
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: the East. Brandy, give us some music, put us in

1140
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: the or Mary, give us some music. Brandon let us.

1141
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: I think I can't even imagine who's gonna be at

1142
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: the top of the list here on over under win

1143
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: totals for the Buffalo but for the NFC.

1144
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, it takes a genius to figure that one out, right. Yeah,

1145
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 8: the Bills eleven and a half are first. Obviously, coming

1146
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 8: off of a disappointing AFC Championship lost to the Chiefs,

1147
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 8: where there was a lot of speculation about referees in

1148
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 8: that game, the fourth down, then the Kincaid drop. It

1149
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 8: seems like there's always so close to getting to that

1150
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 8: Super Bowl in avenging those losses when they lost three

1151
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 8: or four in a row. But they have eleven and

1152
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 8: a half as they're over under Aaron, let's start with you.

1153
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: I gotta be real. I'm looking at this schedule. It's

1154
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: so so. First of all, the team's awesome. Okay, so

1155
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: we get that. I'm not a Sean McDermott guy. I

1156
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: think he chokes in the playoffs, but they clearly are

1157
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: very good in the regular season. Schedule is very top heavy.

1158
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: They do play Baltimore, they do play Cincinnati, they do

1159
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: play Philadelphia, and they do play Case. How about this,

1160
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: they get all four of those games at home. Kansas

1161
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: City is a team they've had success against in the

1162
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: regular season, to be clear, Chiefs fans, and so you

1163
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the schedule. Division, it feels

1164
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: like we're talking minimum five and one. Man, I think

1165
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: four and two is in play, but let's say five

1166
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: and one. Then he got the AFC South, the little

1167
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: Saints here or little Panthers there. We did them last week.

1168
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: That division stinks. I just think this has to be

1169
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: a fourteen to fifteen, not fifteen. I think thirteen to

1170
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: fourteen at minimum. So go ahead and give me a

1171
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: very comfortable over on eleven and a half. He said, right, yeah,

1172
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: eleven and a half. All right, I'm saying over what

1173
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: about you?

1174
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: J Martin? Me too, And you pretty much just did

1175
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: what I was gonna do if I let off, I

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: was going to say fourteen and three. Just looking at

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01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: the schedule, I could see him losing to Baltimore. I

1178
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: bet Vrabel gets them once. And the reason why I

1179
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: say that is because Vrabel got them all the time

1180
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: when he was in Tennessee. There's just say he's always

1181
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: ready for those kind of games. So I could easily

1182
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: see them losing one of those games to New England

1183
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: in Division. And then you know, you play against the Steelers,

1184
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals, the Chiefs, Tampa Bay like somewhere in there,

1185
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: you probably will drop another game, but unless there's an injury.

1186
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: I really like this schedule the way it matches up,

1187
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: and of course the way that you laid it out

1188
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: is right. So yeah, I mean they were thirteen and

1189
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: four a season ago. I easily could see that, But

1190
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: I really do think fourteen and three is where I

1191
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: could see them finish, and that's where I'll predict them

1192
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: to finish. So yeah, very easy over.

1193
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: So now all I was gonna say Brandon was the

1194
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: first over under was very obvious. I actually don't know

1195
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: where you're going to go on the second team, so

1196
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off.

1197
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 8: Go Oh no, I say I was going to go

1198
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 8: over as well, because I think this is the ear

1199
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 8: of the Bills get to the Super Bowl.

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01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: I really want. Wow.

1201
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Jamber, remind me, we'll have to do

1202
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: our NFL like I know we're doing over unders. We'll

1203
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: have to get your official No, I guess we'll have

1204
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: that next Saturday.

1205
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll still have another we'll still have another show.

1206
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, So next guys, we'll go to the Patriots

1207
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 8: simply because we have a tie of over underwin total

1208
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 8: eight point five Dolphins and Patriots. We'll start with the

1209
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 8: Patriots because I think they'll be better, so we'll start

1210
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 8: with them.

1211
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: JM. Mart Let's start with you over under on the

1212
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: Patriots eight and a half.

1213
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: Eight and a half is more than double the amount

1214
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: of games that they won last year. They're definitely better,

1215
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: no question about that. I mean I watched Rabele's entire tenure,

1216
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: covered it day after day after day here in Nashville.

1217
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: Dude can coach, he can be he can be hard

1218
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: at times, he can be very difficult on certain guys,

1219
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: and he does have guys that really love him and

1220
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: guys that don't really like him and have plenty to

1221
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: say after the fact. But I would be surprised if

1222
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: New England is not demonstrably better and clearly this win total.

1223
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: Would say that. The only thing that scares me about

1224
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: that is that is an awful lot. That's an awful

1225
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: big shift. I haven't gotten a chance to really look

1226
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: at the schedule in depth. I'll bring it up in

1227
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: front of me now, but I think tentatively I'm gonna

1228
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: say over because I feel better about both New England

1229
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: and Buffalo than I do the other two teams in

1230
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: the division going through the year. So I'm looking at

1231
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: this schedule. Yeah, I feel I feel pretty comfortable. I

1232
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: think this team could win nine games, maybe even ten

1233
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: if things play out right. So Yeah, Vrabel coaches teams up.

1234
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: That's what he's done his entire career. There's no reason

1235
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: to think he can't do it here, so.

1236
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: I gotta go with you. By the way, you look

1237
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: at the start of the schedule, Raiders at Dolphins, Steelers

1238
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: Panthers four and zero in September is absolutely in play.

1239
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: Three of the first four at home. Now you do

1240
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: after that have three straight games away from Foxborough, starting

1241
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Ah, that's what I was gonna say. Yeah,

1242
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: in Tennessee they will be playing the Titans, and you know,

1243
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: back half of the schedule is manageable. I mean, listen,

1244
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: I think all of us have kind of the same

1245
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: universal take on Mike Frable, why they wanted him, why

1246
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: he wanted this job, the intrigue of what we all

1247
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: think Drake may can be, although he isn't there yet.

1248
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: So I'm with J Mart. You know, I don't think

1249
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: it's a hard over where I'm like sprinting to the

1250
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: sportsbook to get it done. But I will take the

1251
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: over on the New England Patriots as well. So J

1252
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: Mart and I agree on the over on the Buffalo Bills.

1253
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: We agree on the over on the New England Patriots.

1254
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Two more teams we will get to them momentarily, but

1255
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: for the first time straight from Sofi stadium. He shoved

1256
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: pre out of that update desk, he said, give me

1257
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: my best not quite Steve Desager.

1258
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: Good to see you, how for Boston doing in Richmond?

1259
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 9: But wait, if only I could have shoved cars aside

1260
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 9: on the four or five.

1261
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: Can you confirm that Matt Stafford did or did not

1262
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: have a workout before the game?

1263
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 9: By the way, it is my first reaction to that

1264
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 9: when I heard that there at the stadium tonight was okay.

1265
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 9: Best case scenario for Rams fan is the Rams just

1266
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 9: don't want to do what happened to them last weekend,

1267
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 9: which is they told everybody, Hey, he's gonna work out

1268
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 9: before the weekend game, Hey he's gonna feel better, and

1269
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 9: we think he's gonna practice on Monday, and then none

1270
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 9: of that other stuff happened because he just didn't feel

1271
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 9: up to it with the bad back come Monday. So

1272
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 9: maybe they're literally not saying anything until Monday, and then

1273
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 9: he'll be practicing next week. There's your best case scenario.

1274
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: There you go.

1275
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 9: I thought it was interesting the but when you don't

1276
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 9: comment that he even practiced today, you are leaving as

1277
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 9: a team, leaving yourself open to this kind of speculation.

1278
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: That's quite Sterrtual. Yeah, I was gonna say I thought

1279
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: it was interesting. The assistant after the game very much,

1280
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: not wanting to put himself in the headlines. I don't

1281
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Speaker 1: know if he had a chance to even see it

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Speaker 1: you at the Seger, but.

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Speaker 9: He's assistant head coach, he's got the title, so you

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Speaker 9: know this was his night. Well, he did say the

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Speaker 9: handoff coordinator stuff during preseason, the whole gig.

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Speaker 1: Well, he handed off that news and notes to Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay on Monday because he was not going to make

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Speaker 1: a headline by giving out something that he wasn't supposed to.

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Speaker 9: Well, I am expecting Sean McVay to yet again be

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Speaker 9: honest and forthcoming and whatever the update is Monday, I

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Speaker 9: do expect to get that on Monday. He has been

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Speaker 9: detailed with the back injury before. We've got one game

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Speaker 9: to go, under a minute left at Denver and then

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Speaker 9: the night will be done with NFL exhibitions. A few

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Speaker 9: more on the weekends still to come. At Denver. It's

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Speaker 9: twenty seven to seven Broncos over the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: RJ.

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Speaker 9: Harvey had an early touchdown run. Jared Stidham with two

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Speaker 9: touchdown passes. Will Lutz with a couple of field goals.

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Speaker 9: The game in Englewood went to the Rams on a

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Speaker 9: late touchdown pass final seconds by Stetson Bennett twenty three

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Speaker 9: to twenty two over the Chargers. Stetson Bennett had over

1303
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Speaker 9: three hundred yards passing tonight, three touchdowns, one interception. He

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Speaker 9: played the whole game, and the forty nine Ers won

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Speaker 9: at Las Vegas on a fifty nine yard field goal

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 9: on the final play twenty two to nineteen. The Dodgers

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01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 9: are back in first alone in first in the NL

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Speaker 9: West after shutting out the Padres in La six to

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Speaker 9: nothing to go a game up on San Diego. The

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Speaker 9: loss to Dylan Ceeze, who walked six in his three

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Speaker 9: and a third innings, but the Milwaukee Brewers won again

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Speaker 9: fourteen straight victories for him. After an eleven inning win

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 9: at Cincinnati six to five, Cubs won today Mets with

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Speaker 9: a win Phillies loss. Pitcher Zach Wheeler went on the

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Speaker 9: injured list. Victories for Toronto, Boston and the Yankees. Houston's

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Speaker 9: the first place team in the AL West game and

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01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 9: a half over Seattle now after the Stros won in

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Speaker 9: twelve innings against Baltimore five to four, as for the

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Speaker 9: BMW Championship. This month, we are in the PGA playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Robert McIntyre is the leader by five four strokes in

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 9: Maryland over Scottie Scheffler. Ludwig Oberg is six behind. The

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 9: live golf event is in Indianapolis. Dustin Johnson has tied

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Speaker 9: for the lead with Sebastian Munos. It's a four stroke advantage.

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Speaker 9: Just one WNBA game today, Minnesota now twenty eight and

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Speaker 9: five after beating New York eighty six to eighty and

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 9: among the MLS games, Leedo Messi with a lake goal.

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 9: His teammate Lewis Suarez followed, so three to one, Miami

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 9: beat the LA Galaxy. Back to you, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You very much. Steve Segai be back with us in

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Speaker 1: just a moment for his extended update. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Era tors. Jason Martin tell you what. We

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: were a little short on time here. We still got

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Speaker 1: two teams in the AFC East. The good news is,

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Speaker 1: jaymart I don't know much we're gonna have to say

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: about the Dolphins in the the Jets here, So Mary,

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: give us that music. Brandon, who is up next on

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: our list here?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's not much of suspense since I already told you, guys,

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01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 8: but Dolphins eight and a half personally, before you guys go,

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 8: I thought this number. I I thought this number was

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 8: gonna be much lower than eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely alright to me. They were eight and nine

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01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: last year. I'll go first, I guess. So they brought

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01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: in Zach Wilson to b QB two, and there's already

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01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: reports that Quinn Ewers is starting to kind of challenge

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01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: him for that job. Man, remember when he was a

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: second pick in the draft and everybody thought he was

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: the greatest thing since sliced bread. And I was just like,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand where this came from. Yeah, yeah, light

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01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: comes at you fast. Anyway. I think it's under I

1351
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna be very good. I think Mike

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: McDaniel is probably in a new job next year.

1353
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll be brief on this as well. So

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: I agree. And you hate to say it, but Tua

1355
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: just feels like, you know, you're not getting seventeen games

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: from him, and it and it has just been weird

1357
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: all preseason, you know. And and I'll credit our buddy

1358
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 1: Colin Coward. He's been on this with Mike McDaniel. It

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01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: just feels like it's just weird, you know. I mean,

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01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was liked and respected early

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: in his tenure. I think, you know, he's been a

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: little bit maybe you have a pushover these last few years.

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that he has the pulse of that

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: locker room. And I just think that it's tough when

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: you when you just can't expect that much from your quarterback.

1366
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,959
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go under. I will say the schedule

1367
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: is very manageable. Open at Indie Patriots in Week two.

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01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: You do have the Bills, but then Jets, Panthers, you

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: got the Browns, you got the Falcons. So they can

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01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 1: get there if they can stay healthy and if they

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Speaker 1: could kind of keep everybody in line. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know that they will Brandon j Ets, Jets, Jets, Jets

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01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: yep six and a half. I thought this was high too.

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Speaker 1: Aaron will start with you. Listen. I think everybody likes

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn. I think there's a great deal of respect,

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01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: and I think to his credit, given the injuries in

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: Detroit over the last last season late in the year,

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: he did about as well as you could expect. I

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01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: just it's the Jets man, and like, I hate to

1380
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: be that, but I think I even mentioned this last week.

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: They've gone defensive head coach after defensive head coach. It

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01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: hasn't worked. They haven't figured out the quarterback. Justin Field

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01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: seems to say and do all the right things. I

1384
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's the long term answer. And it just

1385
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: it feels like the same situation, just with a new

1386
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 1: cast of characters. Now again. You know, Justin Field's pops,

1387
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's a dude. They got guys on defense. What's

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: the number six and a half? Six and a half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't trust the quarterback. If I don't

1390
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Speaker 1: trust the quarterback, that's right, six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Under under And that's why. And look, I've been a

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: Justin Fields supporter, and I'm certainly not saying that I'm

1393
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 2: not supporting him now, But everything that you read about

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: how this has gone, how he's looked in camp, how

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01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: he's looked with some of these receiver it just doesn't

1396
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: sound good to me. And to your point, they just

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01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: have not found a coach and a coordinator that's been

1398
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: able to unlock that offense in so long, even with

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: the talent that they have, the Jets are a calamity.

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Speaker 2: I don't see why that changes. I think this is

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: a this is a max five win team. I could

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: easily see it being a four win team. It's going

1403
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: to be a really, really rough year.

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01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: By the way, as we're talking, they're playing highlights of

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: Justin Field's bouncing balls to Garrett Wilson. Yeah, we got

1406
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: half a second here. I don't understand how he could

1407
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: be throwing sixty yard bombs to Garrett Wilson at Ohio State,

1408
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: looking like the next coming, and now all of a

1409
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: sudden he can't throw. I don't understand how that works.

1410
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: I know Ryan Days a, you know, an offensive coach,

1411
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: and Aaron Glenn's a defensive coach.

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: Is flating balls, and Columbus.

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, but it's just like whatever. Anyway,

1414
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: So we all so we actually four for four over

1415
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 1: on Buffalo, over on New England, under on Miami, under

1416
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,919
Speaker 1: on the Jets. I would argue maybe the least interesting

1417
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: division we've done, by the way, not just from our perspective,

1418
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone has the exact same opinion on

1419
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: all four teams, and I think right now, based on

1420
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: the information we have, those opinions are accurate. So that

1421
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: is the AFC East. Next week we'll do maybe the

1422
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: AFC North. Really fun division obviously with a lot of

1423
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: intriguing teams and situations, certainly at the quarterback position. Fox

1424
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, as we do every week

1425
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: around twelve forty five Eastern to Saga, will give you

1426
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: the extended update, the deep dive on what you missed

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01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: on a busy Saturday to Saga. Coming up next, Fox

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio aer tours

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: Mary mack in her bag with all this music tonight,

1431
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: but she's going old school tonight. I know, old soul

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: Mary Maco there. I love it.

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Speaker 9: By the way, I did hear some of the show

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 9: on our great San Diego affiliate coming out to four

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 9: or five, So shout out to AM seven sixty in.

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: Sandy our show or Stinky Genius and Plank Oh yeah,

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01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: the end.

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Speaker 9: Of them, but mostly you. After I got out of

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 9: the stadium.

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: I hope we sounded good.

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 9: Great reception on the West side.

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01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: There you go.

1443
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: So what we did with Arnie.

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sorry. I heard Arnie's name and I just

1445
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 9: blacked out there. Did you say something?

1446
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: No, yeah, exactly, I just said really good reception. Even

1447
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: if does that you couldn't hear Arnie or does that

1448
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: mean no? Boy?

1449
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 9: You know there is an Arizona kicker that looks like

1450
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 9: he's gonna be t with the Ravens. So something's going

1451
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 9: good for that program.

1452
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're kicker. I can't say that because Tetroo

1453
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: McMillan was a first round pick, but yeah, when Tyler

1454
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: looped the kicker is the highlight of your program. That's

1455
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Yeah, might might not be.

1456
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 9: That was a thirty one thirteen Ravens final at Dallas

1457
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 9: and Joe Milton was swell one interception, one hundred and

1458
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 9: twenty two yards passing most of last weekend at the Rams,

1459
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 9: Joe Milton, it was just what is going on out here?

1460
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 9: How is this guy going to get any NFL time?

1461
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 9: The way he is playing? And you know it's a

1462
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 9: strong arm. But actually there was a play last weekend

1463
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 9: that shows you everything you know need to know, I think,

1464
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 9: and that is he threw a beautiful deep ball but

1465
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 9: it was into double coverage and picked off at the coalides.

1466
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: So we saw that in Knoxville for years. Exactly that

1467
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 2: thing's twenty thirty yards further than it needs to be exactly.

1468
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: Know what was funny last year when he played on

1469
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:38,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Like right around this time, Patriots fans were getting, oh, well,

1470
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: you know we're here Joe Milton buzz and I tweeted

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: something about like, oh, they're in the same stage of

1472
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: denial as every fan base, and like Tennessee fans came,

1473
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: We're like, why are you talking about Joe Milton like that.

1474
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I know you want to be pretend

1475
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: like you're a bad you know what on social media,

1476
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: we all know Joe Milton suck for you. Stop anyway.

1477
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: It's just typical Tennessee fan nonsense.

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 9: But now, so we had exhibition when for the forty

1479
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 9: nine Ers and the Rams in very close games. It

1480
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 9: was a Rams home game for what it's worth, in

1481
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 9: the stadium, these two share a late touchdown pass from

1482
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 9: Stetson Bennett with five seconds to go got the Rams

1483
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 9: of twenty three to twenty two win over the Chargers.

1484
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 9: Chargers starting wide receiver Quinton Johnston dropped a ball down

1485
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 9: the sideline on the first of course, that's not news.

1486
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 9: He drops lots of balls, but down the sidelines, and

1487
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 9: he took a shot and was apparently just out, but

1488
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 9: was able to stand up eventually. But it was notable

1489
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 9: that the Rams traders were the first to run on

1490
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 9: the field and check him out. It was that serious initially,

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Speaker 9: and he was able to, you know, at least look

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Speaker 9: lucid and get on the cart himself and go straight

1493
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 9: to the locker room. First series of the night, it

1494
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 9: was called a concussion. Afterwards, Rams win by one with

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 9: the late score justin Herbert did play a preseason game

1496
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 9: for the first time in his career. He wanted to

1497
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 9: feel a pass rush, he said, so he played the

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01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 9: first series two of five forty six yard its passing,

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01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 9: and then Taylor Heineke, who is genuinely bad last weekend,

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01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 9: took over and he was okay, six of eleven fifty

1501
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 9: six yards, had a couple carries almost twenty yards on

1502
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 9: the ground. But the Chargers in the first half red

1503
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 9: zone tds oz for three. They settled for three field goals.

1504
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 9: In fact, the last three Charger drives tonight were three

1505
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 9: to three and outs. But in the middle. There they

1506
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 9: did score a touchdown on a punt return, which is

1507
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 9: why they had the late lead until the Rams won it.

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01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 9: As for that San Francisco victory, it was twenty two

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 9: to nineteen at Las Vegas. Jake Moody five for six

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 9: on field goals. With about ten minutes left, he hit

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01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 9: a fifty yarder. With under a minute to go, he

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01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 9: hit from forty four and then the Niners defense got

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01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 9: a couple of sacks and a pick, took over and

1514
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 9: Moody hit from fifty nine yards out on the final

1515
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 9: play to win the game twenty two to nineteen. The

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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 9: late game was at Denver Broncos twenty seven to seven

1517
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 9: over the Arizona Cardinals. Jared Stidham with two touchdown passes.

1518
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 9: People in fantasy football, we'll certainly looking to see what RJ.

1519
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 9: Harvey has in the Denver the crowded Denver backfield, but

1520
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 9: three carries, eighteen yards and a touchdown for him in

1521
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 9: this one. I will say before I leave the NFL

1522
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 9: and the Rams that Stetson Bennett did play the whole night.

1523
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 9: They had a drive in the first half fourteen plays,

1524
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 9: almost eighty yards and got no points out of it.

1525
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 9: An eight minute drive and then in the second half

1526
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 9: twelve play drive six minutes. Got no points out of that,

1527
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 9: and he still won it with the late drive. Now

1528
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 9: Trey Lance made an appearance again. He has actually been

1529
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 9: decent in the preseason. I'm not saying he's an NFL starter,

1530
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 9: but he's shown more than I think all of his

1531
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 9: time in the San Francisco uniform. There was a point

1532
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 9: with the Chargers. He had a thirty four yard pass

1533
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 9: to set up on the next play a one yard

1534
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 9: touchdown run. Rams final drive though in a minute twenty

1535
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 9: three ten plays, seventy five yards and the win Stetson

1536
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,839
Speaker 9: Bennett three hundred and twenty four yards passing.

1537
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. What's Steve the Seger? Appreciate you

1538
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: swinging by here, of course after a busy night at

1539
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium, and you'll be with us until two am

1540
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: Eastern Ertors, Jason Martin, we are on for one more hour.

1541
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: We'll come back talk about a busy night in the

1542
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: NFL and look ahead to an interesting week ahead. Fox

1543
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome in everybody. Hour three Torres and Martin.

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting live from the Fox

1545
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios, taking you up till two am Eastern time.

1546
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: Bernie Fratdo of The Bernie Frado Show follows us just

1547
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 1: cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to say about

1548
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: a busy, busy week in sports, A lot going on NFL.

1549
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: We are, of course, now under a week to the

1550
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: start of college football season Week zero next Saturday the

1551
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: Marquee Game, a top twenty five mat Kansas State and

1552
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: Iowa State in Dublin, and of course Week one is

1553
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: when it really gets going. Texas Ohio State on Fox, LSU, Clemson, Miami,

1554
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Florida State, Alabama, and much much more. Jmart,

1555
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: real quick, I mean, Texas Ohio State is the obvious?

1556
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: Is there a Week one college football? And I'm not

1557
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: trying to be sarcastic because you'll be traveling that weekend,

1558
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: But is there one that you're especially intrigued by? Are

1559
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: they all intriguing? Like what actually stated? I mean, Texas

1560
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: Ohio State is so obvious that it's almost like too obvious.

1561
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: But is there is there one that stands out to you?

1562
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean there's look, Ben, there's a lot of good

1563
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: stuff there. You're right, I mean, Texas Ohio State is

1564
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: on a completely different plane than a lot of this stuff.

1565
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Notre Dame Miami is going to be certainly

1566
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: interesting on Sunday, no question about that, and then you

1567
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: get Belichick on Monday as well. But I mean, if

1568
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: you're just looking at that Saturday and you're looking at

1569
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: just yeah, I mean, if you're adding it all, I mean,

1570
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: Alabama Florida State, I think is just an intriguing matchup

1571
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: generally to see what what Alabama looks like out of

1572
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: the gates this year, because there is certainly a lot

1573
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: of pressure on Caitlin de bor so just kind of

1574
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 2: seeing it they come out rocking it. I mean, Saban

1575
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: was known for rolling out in Week one and just

1576
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: absolutely destroying teams, and this Florida State team coming off

1577
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: of last year, they're gonna want to show their best

1578
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 2: footing and it's that that being on the road in Tallahassee.

1579
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm certainly gonna be curious to see what

1580
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 2: that team looks like. And you look at some of

1581
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: the other stuff, a lot of it is I don't know,

1582
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: is there something Is there something major that I'm missing?

1583
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 2: I mean, LSU Clemson is the other obvious one. Yeah, certainly,

1584
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: and we discussed that one earlier, but I mean Clemson's

1585
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: a team we were When No and I were hosting

1586
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: on Thursday morning, he mentioned that there was somebody that

1587
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: had put down money on three different teams that would

1588
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: then pay out and he would make a tremendous amount

1589
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: of money. He was basically going all in on one

1590
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: of these teams to win the championship. And the question

1591
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: that No asked was, if you could place money on

1592
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 2: three teams this year under that kind of auspice, what

1593
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: would those three teams be? And Clemson's probably one of them, honestly,

1594
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: Like they're certainly going to be in the mix. I

1595
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: mean Club Nick and just they're they're kind of loaded

1596
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 2: this year, and they're in a conference that they should

1597
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of as well. So I

1598
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 2: think that's a really important game. Certainly it's important for LSU.

1599
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: And what is it with LSU deciding in Week one

1600
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 2: every year to pick a game that's going to set

1601
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: them off on the wrong foot, because I think they

1602
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: will lose that game, first of all.

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01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: So it's really funny because last year I said this

1604
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: during the floor the USC game, I said, can someone

1605
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: get Brian Kelly app State in Week one.

1606
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have to do this.

1607
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And people were like, oh, you know, the next

1608
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: two years they're playing Clemson, right, I'm like, oh Jesus,

1609
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: so goodness gracious. So I'll say we didn't talk much

1610
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: Clemson in that first that college football segment we did

1611
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: an hour ago. I think they're fascinating and I think,

1612
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, this could be a little bit of a

1613
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney victory tour, because you know, he was kind

1614
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: of skewered for his decisions and his thought process on

1615
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,480
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. And I'm with you from the perspective

1616
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: that I think that team, to me is one that's

1617
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: good enough to win a national championship. I'll just say

1618
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: quick two things on Week one. Besides the obvious, I

1619
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: do think like I think like Texas Oklahoma is like

1620
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: the casuals game, Like that's the one that everyone's going

1621
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 1: to tune into because of the brands on the helmets.

1622
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: But I think we both kind of feel like I

1623
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: think the diehards understand that Clemson LSU was probably the

1624
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: one with the most stakes. And then I will say

1625
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: that Sunday night game because I kind of don't know

1626
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: what I'm expecting from either team, Like I know what

1627
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm expecting from Clemson, I know what I'm expecting from

1628
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: even Penn State. Like all I think with Penn State

1629
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: is are they gonna win the games that matter in

1630
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 1: the postseason. They'll go ten to two, maybe eleven and one, whatever,

1631
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe twelve to zero. I have no idea what I'm

1632
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: getting from Miami and Notre Dame. Notre Dame of course

1633
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: coming off that national championship run, but like they lost

1634
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: a ton. The quarterback that we all expect to be

1635
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback has never thrown a college pass. And

1636
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: then Miami, like we talked about it, like, I think

1637
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: there's been a little bit of an overcorrection on Carson Beck.

1638
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: He was not good last year. He was pretty good

1639
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: two years ago, so you have that element of it.

1640
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: You also have he took a brutal injury, major surgery,

1641
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: didn't throw for months on end. Now all the reports

1642
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: have been positive. But those two to me, again, Texas

1643
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's obvious. Your point on Debor is well taken, even

1644
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: though that's on the road. You gotta win that game.

1645
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think those are the two more than

1646
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: anything that get me excited for next week or for

1647
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: two weeks from now.

1648
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: J Martin, Yeah, I mean, and again, it's just it's

1649
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: gonna be week after week. There's just gonna be so

1650
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: many different storylines. But we do know, even with an

1651
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 2: expanded playoff, there are certain teams where it's just like, man,

1652
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 2: it feels like there's a lot on the line right

1653
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 2: out of the gate, and there's just somewhere it's just

1654
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: the momentum needs to go in the right direction or

1655
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: the fan base is going to go in the wrong direction.

1656
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: And I think that's certainly true with Alabama, but it's

1657
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 2: definitely true with LSU, oh more so than anywhere.

1658
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,440
Speaker 1: By the way, this isn't really a national team. Auburn

1659
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: opening at Baylor on Friday night too.

1660
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1661
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, for people who don't follow the day to day.

1662
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: Baylor won six straight games to end the season last year.

1663
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: I think they finished eight and four, nine and five,

1664
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: you know, eight and five, nine and four, something like that.

1665
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: But we're very good towards the end of the year.

1666
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: I think most people, if you know college football, Hugh

1667
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: Freeze certainly a lightning rod. They're coming off a five

1668
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: and seven season, and he cannot that's one. You know, listen,

1669
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: I think that they have a pseudo manageable SEC schedule

1670
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: by SEC terms, but that is one they cannot lose

1671
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: really quickly. J mart Let's just spend a couple of

1672
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: minutes on the Saturday NFL preseason. A couple games on Friday,

1673
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: a couple games on Sunday. We get a nice Monday

1674
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: night game this week Cincinnati at Washington, But let's stick

1675
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: to Saturday. We had about, you know, seven eight games

1676
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: over the course of the day. The biggest story to

1677
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: me is a game in which, you know, listen, a

1678
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: lot of guys don't play in the preseason, but this

1679
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: one is notable. Matthew Stafford not playing for the Los

1680
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams and really no real tangible news on him.

1681
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: There were reports he was going to work out before

1682
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: the game. He did not. Aubrey Pleasant was the sitting

1683
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: head coach tonight. Basically, Sean McVay, let's his assistant coaches

1684
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: coach in the preseason as if they're the head coach.

1685
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: Get him some reps. Aubrey Pleasant after the game said

1686
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: there would be no comment from him. Sean McVay would

1687
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: address it on Monday. Where do you stand on the

1688
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: lost Angelus Rams because I think it's safe to say

1689
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: the drop off between him and Jimmy g him and

1690
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett is pretty big if he isn't ready to

1691
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: go early in the year.

1692
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I'm down on the Rams

1693
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: because I just don't know what to make of the

1694
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: quarterback scenario. I just don't feel confident in Stafford's ability

1695
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 2: to even suit up in double figure games this year.

1696
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it certainly can happen, and I certainly hope

1697
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: that it does, but it just feels like it's gonna

1698
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: be a Rolling Hills workout of sorts. There's gonna be

1699
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: some hives and some lows, and there's gonna be some

1700
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 2: weeks where you think he can go, and for whatever reason,

1701
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,799
Speaker 2: he's not gonna go. He's gonna be I said this Thursday,

1702
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: and I said it earlier in this show. I think

1703
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: he's going to be perpetually questionable, Like you're just never

1704
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: gonna feel particular. He's the guy you better not draft

1705
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 2: in fantasy either, like that's the one guy because from

1706
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: week to week, I just I think it's gonna almost

1707
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: be a crapshoot as to whether or not he's going

1708
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 2: to be able to play. He's just he's just so

1709
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: beaten down, and he's played so much football in his

1710
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 2: career and for so long he wasn't protected particularly well

1711
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: in Detroit and age gets us all and so I

1712
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: just I look at it and I just don't feel

1713
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: confident at all about what the Rams can do because

1714
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback spot now, it's you could be worse than

1715
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: to have Jimmy Gus your backup, right, Like I mean,

1716
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: if you've got him, and even if you have to

1717
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: throw Bennett in there, some you're in better situations than

1718
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: a lot of teams from their backup perspectives. Plus you

1719
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 2: have the McVeigh factor, and they do have some weapons

1720
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: obviously in Takua and some of those guys. I just

1721
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm a little down on them. I just think it's

1722
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 2: gonna be a rough year from the injury standpoint.

1723
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I'll say on him. And we talked about this a

1724
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 1: little bit in hour one. People could go back download

1725
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: the podcast. So I think it's noteworthy that the Rams

1726
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: certainly didn't want to lose him this offseason, but also

1727
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 1: so like there was the we're not just blindly taking

1728
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: you back and giving you the extension that you want,

1729
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: like it was a negotiation, it was whatever you want

1730
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: to call it, but it also it also was a

1731
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: scenario where like he was available and he was looking

1732
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: at other teams. Now, I think both sides made the

1733
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: right decision, respectfully to your point about the Lions, Like,

1734
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: if I was him, I don't know that I'd be

1735
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: rushing to the New York Giants for a couple extra

1736
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: dollars after everything that your body's been through playing for

1737
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: an inferior organization. But I just think it's noteworthy is

1738
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: that even the Rams were like, listen, man, we appreciate

1739
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: everything you've done, but we can't give you that sweetheart

1740
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: godfather deal with however many years you want and however

1741
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: much money you want, because as great as you are,

1742
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 1: there is a degree of questions about you your healthier futures.

1743
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you have anything to piggyback

1744
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: off that we can get to a couple other topics

1745
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: from the day, But I just think it's noteworthy that

1746
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,520
Speaker 1: you think that given everything that he's done for that franchise,

1747
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: it would be a no brainer just give him what

1748
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: he wants. But I think even the Rams see what

1749
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: you see, which is a thirty seven year old guy

1750
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: that's been banged up that they can't mortgage their entire

1751
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: future to take care of.

1752
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean eventually, Yeah. And usually the team is

1753
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 2: the one that's going to know that's the fastest. And

1754
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: in this case, I think that is one hundred percent

1755
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 2: accurate to this situation. The Rams love the guy, they

1756
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: want him around, but I know that they also have

1757
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: to start looking towards the future. And so we'll see

1758
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 2: how it like inevitably plays out. And you just hope

1759
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 2: the best for Stafford, and you hope that he's able

1760
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 2: to play more and maybe he's going to be healthier

1761
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: than maybe we anticipate. But I could easily see this

1762
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: being his last to raw in the NFL.

1763
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Really quick, I'll throw a little bit of a curveball

1764
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:59,799
Speaker 1: at you. Indian Green Bay played earlier today. Daniel Jones

1765
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: said of eleven Anthony Richardson's six of eleven zero combined touchdowns,

1766
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: do you have any strong takes on that quarterback room?

1767
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: Does it even matter? Is the is the twenty twenty

1768
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: sixth starter on the roster right now? Where are you

1769
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: at with Indianapolis and yet another quarterback controversy or Derby

1770
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it, not concoence, I don't.

1771
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't think they're good regardless of who they go.

1772
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: With Richardson again, I mean, even the play that he

1773
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: got hurt on, it's just he even admitted it's like

1774
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 2: he didn't see it coming. And there's just some there's

1775
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: some lack of football alertness with him that really would

1776
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: have benefited from another year at Florida. And unfortunately, and

1777
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 2: we first guessed this, I mean, he had a lot

1778
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 2: of raw talent, but that's the key is a lot

1779
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: of it was raw talent, and I don't know that

1780
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: he walked into the best situation to try and sort

1781
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 2: of get that off on the right foot. And then

1782
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 2: he's been injured. It just hasn't looked particularly good. And

1783
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: then we know what Daniel Jones is. He's okay sort of,

1784
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: but he's not gonna he's not gonna instill fearing anything.

1785
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: The good news is, you're in a pretty bad division.

1786
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 2: The bad news is, I mean, cam Ward's a number

1787
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 2: one pick who claims that the Titans are gonna be

1788
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: a top ten offense this year. I say that sort

1789
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: of tongue in cheek. He did say any minute, but

1790
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 2: of course he's gonna say something like that, so you know,

1791
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I I just I feel like Jones is probably the

1792
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 2: safest option, but he also probably has the lowest ceiling,

1793
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 2: so I don't I don't know. It just depends on

1794
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: what Sticking says. He's close to a decision, and it

1795
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: just feels like to me, it doesn't really matter. They're

1796
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 2: not gonna be a particularly good football team anyway.

1797
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: Last team, by the way, I have nothing to add

1798
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,719
Speaker 1: on the Indianapolis Colts. I actually think they're relatively speaking,

1799
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 1: maybe the least interesting team in the league.

1800
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 2: No, no, no.

1801
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Well, the Saints, I mean Saints still exist. The Saints

1802
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: are the chiefs of uninteresting, Like the Chiefs are just

1803
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: the most interesting or one of the uh, the Saints

1804
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: are uninteresting. I'll say that the Cults are like the

1805
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: uh the Bills to the chiefs of uninteresting. So uh

1806
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: so yeah, they're they're They're not very good, and I

1807
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: just I find nothing remotely at all interesting about them.

1808
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: By the way, I think they actually play this year. No,

1809
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: they don't, Thank goodness, that would be the the I

1810
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: don't think that one's uh, you know, getting the Prime

1811
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: TV treatment. If you have more than one screen. Lastly

1812
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: from Saturday, just a couple quick thoughts on the state

1813
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: of the Giants quarterback battle as Jackson Dart. Second straight

1814
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 1: game where he got meaningful snaps, meaningful playing time uh

1815
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 1: and second straight game where he actually looked pretty good uh.

1816
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: Coming off a game against the Bills in the first

1817
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: preseason game, second game for team of sixteen, passing one

1818
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven yards one TD. Kind of worth noting,

1819
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson had a couple of nice deep

1820
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: balls as well. Now he's still through an interception. Obviously,

1821
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's gonna be your Week one starter. I don't

1822
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: think any of us expect it to be a long

1823
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: term situation. But Jackson Dart, I'll be quick on this.

1824
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: I think he's getting some run. You know, at some

1825
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 1: point this season, Brian Dable's going to be coaching for

1826
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: his job. He needs to sell that there is a

1827
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 1: future and that he should be part of it. Jackson

1828
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 1: Dart is really the only pathway to get.

1829
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 2: There, that's right. And if he could show some development

1830
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,839
Speaker 2: in Jackson Dart even from one point to the next,

1831
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: depending on how much he's able to play during the

1832
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: course of the season, then he might be able to

1833
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: sell ownership on getting another year. It's like, look what

1834
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: I did with him in year one, Give me some

1835
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 2: more time with him and we might have something special here.

1836
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: What they can't do is just be completely dull with

1837
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart in at quarterback. Whenever that move happens, I

1838
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: think it probably happens. I think I said Packers come

1839
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 2: to New York on the sixteenth, maybe you make that move.

1840
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 2: Then maybe you've already made it. But Russell Wilson knows

1841
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 2: he wasn't being brought there to be the starter all year,

1842
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: or certainly not going past this year. So he'll go

1843
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: in there. He'll hold the ship up for a little while.

1844
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 2: They're not going to be very good, and then Dart's

1845
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 2: going to get in and that's when you're going to

1846
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: see kind of the hope arise, hopefully for Giants fans

1847
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: who've been waiting for a while to see a quarterback

1848
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: that might excite them, and Dart might be that guy.

1849
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 2: But I do think that this is Dables' best shot

1850
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: to hold on to that job pretty much his only shot.

1851
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Whatever he does is Russell Wilson's not going to mean anything.

1852
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: Don't disagree again, Jackson Dart on Saturday against the Jets.

1853
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: It is only the preseason, fourteen of sixteen passing one

1854
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven yards, one touchdown for those scoring

1855
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: at home, or for those like Arnie Spanner who bet

1856
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: on the preseason. The Giants did win thirty one to

1857
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: two twelve against the New York Jets. Fox Sports Radio

1858
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: Aeron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1859
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 1: Radio Studios. When we come back, switch gears, back to

1860
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: the college football playoff, back to college football, because Big

1861
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: ten they're basically proposing Jymart we'll call it the Oprah playoff.

1862
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: You get a spot, You get a spot, You get

1863
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 1: a spot. The worst playoff proposal you've ever heard.

1864
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,280
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1865
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,320
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1866
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,760
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1867
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01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

1869
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: Aeron Tors Jason Barb broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1870
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:53,480
Speaker 1: Radio Studios. Busy Show today. We'll give you the official

1871
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: read on the podcast in a minute, but you need

1872
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: to be downloading the podcast, we've given some bowl college football.

1873
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: We previewed the a FC East, we previewed the AFC East,

1874
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff. We'll we'll we'll make sure

1875
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 1: to download the podcast. Tell you what, j Bart, We

1876
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 1: we briefly glossed over this in our one. Let's do

1877
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: the official deep dive. By the way, oh, we just

1878
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: got a little bit of pseudo late breaking news. Jim

1879
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Harbaugh was asked at the postgame press conference tonight about

1880
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: the about the situation in Michigan. He said, like I

1881
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 1: said to you last year, not engaging, not engaging. So

1882
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh that that that that awful ten year ban

1883
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,719
Speaker 1: from coaching college football, eve though he was never coming back.

1884
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: We talked about Michigan. Make sure to check that out

1885
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: in the podcast. Tell you what, j Bart, Well, we

1886
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 1: have not talked about this preposterous Big ten playoff proposal. Okay,

1887
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 1: so let's I'll give you a little context and then

1888
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: we'll go from there. So we know Big twelve, Big Ten.

1889
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: We know college football went to a twelve team playoff

1890
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: this year. This offseason, there has been a back and

1891
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:13,520
Speaker 1: forth on getting to sixteen teams, and there's big disagreement

1892
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: with the Big Ten in the SEC. The SEC basically

1893
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: wants five conference champs, eleven eleven at large bids. The

1894
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: Big Ten wants this convoluted setup with guaranteed bids and

1895
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: then there's playing games. It's just very confusing. Well, I

1896
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,520
Speaker 1: bring it up because don't know if we'll get to sixteen.

1897
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: But on Saturday morning, Pete Thamil, reporting from ESPN, quote,

1898
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: the Big Ten has considered an idea for massive expansion

1899
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 1: of the college football playoff that will grow the postseason

1900
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: to twenty four or twenty eight teams. As I said

1901
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 1: before the break, let's just call it the Oprah Playoff.

1902
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: You get a bid, you get a bid, You get

1903
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: a bid, You lousy eighth place, Big ten team, come

1904
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: on in. You know, it's like Ellis Island. Get me

1905
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: your sick, you're poor, your huddled mass. That's the college

1906
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: football playoff in the Big Tens world. What was your

1907
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:09,560
Speaker 1: reaction when you saw this and how much did you

1908
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: throw up in your mouth?

1909
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 2: Because this is disgusting, all of all of the vomit

1910
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 2: that that one could find. As a matter of fact,

1911
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: my daughter's been sick this week. So this is to

1912
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Speaker 2: get a win.

1913
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: To this report, before everybody else did.

1914
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: Or this is what's funny. So she had she was

1915
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: sick on like midweek, She was sick Tuesday, and she

1916
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: was still a little sick Wednesday. Everything was pretty good

1917
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:40,520
Speaker 2: by Wednesday night, Thursday, Friday, everything was good. Today tonight,

1918
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 2: this afternoon, she gets home from a swim lesson and

1919
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 2: she's sick and looks sicker than she has at any

1920
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 2: point during the week. And I have to think that

1921
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 2: she read this article. I have to think that these

1922
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 2: things are that these things are related. Quite frankly, I

1923
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,440
Speaker 2: just do we have to tweak it so much that

1924
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 2: that college football just doesn't exist anymore? Like we don't

1925
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 2: need to add teams to the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament

1926
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 2: because we've already devalued almost everything that happens in the

1927
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 2: regular season. College football's a regular season remains the greatest

1928
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: thing on earth because it's the amount of games, first

1929
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 2: of all, which means you just don't have many opportunities

1930
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 2: to lose and still end up where you want to.

1931
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 2: And then it feels exclusive. Now. I was all for

1932
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 2: growing it to some extent, and I'm okay with growing

1933
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 2: it a little bit more than this than what it

1934
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 2: is currently but not anywhere near twenty four to twenty

1935
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean, did we not see in the games that

1936
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 2: we saw last year? This is not a sport that's

1937
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 2: deep enough to field this. It's just not. And so

1938
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't need to see middle of the road big

1939
01:41:55,320 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 2: conference teams from the Big Ten and e SEC that

1940
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 2: shouldn't have an opportunity to play for a championship still

1941
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 2: have that opportunity. They did in the regular season, they

1942
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 2: didn't do enough. I'm fine with seeing the cream of

1943
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 2: the crop, even three four five teams from those conferences

1944
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 2: if they have earned it. But like this idea of

1945
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 2: guaranteed seven bids a piece for the Big Ten and

1946
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 2: the SEC five for the ACC and like going through

1947
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 2: all this deal, it only still only leads like three

1948
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 2: at larges. So it's even more obvious what you're trying

1949
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 2: to do here. But more than anything else, you're watering

1950
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 2: down both your regular season and your playoff because it

1951
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 2: no longer feels nearly as difficult to get there. And

1952
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 2: I do not see any advantage in doing this, which

1953
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 2: is why I wonder, to your point earlier in the show,

1954
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 2: whether or not this is legitimate or if this is

1955
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 2: some kind of a strategy on the part of the

1956
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 2: Big Ten. But I guess time will tell. I hope

1957
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 2: that this never happens. Let's say that.

1958
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, for people who missed it earlier. You know, my

1959
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know if this is a take. It

1960
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: was just kind of a thought that floated through my

1961
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: head when you see this. By the way, I'll add

1962
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: this too. I think multiple other college football kind of

1963
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: insider news reporters, whatever basically hinted that the Big Ten

1964
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: has a lot of proposals out there and this is

1965
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: just one of them. Let me see. Nicole Auerback from

1966
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: NBC Sports tweeted the Big Ten is indeed in the

1967
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: very early stages of discussing the idea of a twenty

1968
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: eighteen playoff, source confirms to NBC Sports, as ESPN reported,

1969
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,919
Speaker 1: would eliminate conference championship games whatever. Ross Dellinger from Yahoo

1970
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: had something pretty similar where he said, like, look, Big

1971
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: ten has a bunch of ideas out there, doesn't mean

1972
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Let's see what he said really quick,

1973
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: I should have had these up. Multiple twenty plus team

1974
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: CFP models are under discussion deriving from the Big Ten,

1975
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 1: playing sources tell Yahoo. As ESPN reported and it says

1976
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: discussessions are very early, could trigger conference title game eliminations,

1977
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. So for people who missed it earlier,

1978
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: I guess my first kind of thought was, it does

1979
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: feel like the Big Ten and the SEC are at

1980
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 1: a true impass. And for people who don't follow this

1981
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: day to day, the Big Ten in the SEC basically

1982
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: have all the power. They're going to decide what the

1983
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: future of the regular season looks like, postseason looks like,

1984
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, And it seems like they're truly

1985
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: at an impass in how they get to sixteen teams

1986
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 1: for a potential college football playoff. And so my first

1987
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: reaction is, is this some sort of Big Ten way

1988
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: of saying, Hey, you know you don't like our proposal, Well,

1989
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: here's a real crazy one. And then, obviously, anyone who's

1990
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: ever done any degree of negotiation knows, you know, you

1991
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: throw out something that you don't actually want to try

1992
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: to get what you do want. And I wonder if

1993
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 1: this is to a degree them trying to get them

1994
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: trying to get the playoff format that they want at sixteen.

1995
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you, and I'll say two things.

1996
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: Is one, agree with everything you said. I already felt

1997
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: like the college football regular season. I don't know that

1998
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: it was quote unquote water down last year. As much

1999
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: as what it was, it just didn't mean as much

2000
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: on a week tweak basis. It just didn't. You know,

2001
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 1: we've talked about it. You know, Alabama loses to Vandy,

2002
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: that is a game that in theory could hang over

2003
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 1: your head all year. Well, guess what. They lose to

2004
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee a few weeks later, and they still would have

2005
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: been in the playoff if they could have been in

2006
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: a lousy Oklahoma team on the road. And oh, by

2007
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: the way, even after they lost to Oklahoma, they were

2008
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: still trying to make the argument that they should have

2009
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: gotten in and were the first team left out of

2010
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: the college football playoff. So if you're talking about not

2011
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: certainly doubling, not quite tripling the field, and with seven

2012
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: auto bids for the Big ten in the SEC, it's

2013
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: just embarrassing. And it's just I don't even know, like,

2014
01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: what are we even playing for at this point. I

2015
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: can't add anything other than I just hope to Goodness

2016
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: gracious that this is nothing that's actually being taken seriously,

2017
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 1: and again, you're allowed to propose whatever you want. I'm

2018
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of different models out there. I

2019
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 1: just hope this is one that nobody's actually taken seriously.

2020
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just I don't see. I would

2021
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 2: be curious to hear what someone who would be in

2022
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 2: favor of this, how they would argue this to be

2023
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 2: a good thing in any way, shape or form. It

2024
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: just doesn't fit pretty much in any way. Like, there's

2025
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 2: not there's not really an advantage here. You're gonna make

2026
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:42,520
Speaker 2: a ton of money either way. But if your postseason

2027
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 2: continues to get watered down, like you had a lot

2028
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 2: of complaints for people about those first round games, even

2029
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 2: the second round games for the most part in the

2030
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 2: playoff this past year, imagine adding a few more rounds

2031
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 2: behind that with teams that don't have household names and

2032
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: just did almost nothing particularly impressive during the regular season.

2033
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,440
Speaker 2: But somebody has to fill those slots from those conferences.

2034
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 2: So we're gonna put X, Y and Z and I

2035
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 2: just know no, just no, like, just keep the regular season,

2036
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 2: keep things kind of where they are, but add a

2037
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 2: couple more teams. I'm good with that, But we got

2038
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,839
Speaker 2: to slow this thing down. So again, I hope your idea,

2039
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 2: at least your theory is right, that there is something

2040
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 2: more behind this. I hope that this is not just

2041
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: some giant cash grab by these two big conferences who

2042
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 2: at some point just need to split off and form

2043
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: their own league, because that's ultimately what they're doing is

2044
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 2: just basically trying to make sure that all of their

2045
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 2: bread is buttered across their entire conference.

2046
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: That report via ESPN a twenty four to twenty eight

2047
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 1: team playoff model. Yeah, let's all hope that doesn't happen.

2048
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio aer toords Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

2049
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios, will come back when we

2050
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,719
Speaker 1: do the interview that broke the Internet earlier this week.

2051
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: We'll discuss that next first though, final time this evening,

2052
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: Steve Disager, what's trending.

2053
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 9: As you talk about all this college football late season?

2054
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 9: The NFL still plays in December, right, I mean, it's

2055
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 9: a great point.

2056
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: Well, and if I can jump in on that really quick,

2057
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 1: I actually felt like the college football playoff lost steam

2058
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: the deeper it got because we all I love college football,

2059
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 1: but we got to that divisional round weekend it's like, I,

2060
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta worry about Bill's Ravens before I

2061
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,560
Speaker 1: could even start thinking about college football. I think we

2062
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: got to end the thing earlier, not later. Now, part

2063
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: of that's a calendar, but now you're adding two more rounds,

2064
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: two more weeks.

2065
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 9: And some games were shoved to cable already, and going

2066
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 9: up against NFL and being anonymous.

2067
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: And to Jay Mart's point, it's all about money. It's

2068
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 1: not like we're gonna decrease the regular season to increase

2069
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: the postseason. So you're gonna be going even later into January.

2070
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: And to your point to Sager, the NFL has owned

2071
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: December for fifty years and they're not giving it.

2072
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 9: Up, including Saturdays in late December, bingo. So unless you

2073
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 9: want to play all your games on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday nights.

2074
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 1: And that was another thing that I thought hurt too.

2075
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: I keep cutting you off. I'm very sorry it felt.

2076
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: I remember, and I say this respectfully. I hope it

2077
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: isn't taking the wrong way. I remember talking to Martin

2078
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Weiss about it. It's like, oh, yeah, there's games on

2079
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:25,799
Speaker 1: like Thursday this week, and like we're both college football

2080
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 1: fans and we didn't know when the next round of

2081
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: games was because they were being played on all these

2082
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 1: random days.

2083
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 9: Well, we did have plenty of NFL exhibitions today, including

2084
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 9: the late game at Denver, which went to the Broncos

2085
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 9: twenty seven to seven over Arizona. Most of the scoring

2086
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 9: in the first half Jared Stidham with two touchdown passes.

2087
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 9: Apparently coach Sean Payton led his quarterbacks coach Davis Webb

2088
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 9: call this game. We do have a couple more games

2089
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 9: tomorrow on the preseason slate. Tyler Schuck will start at

2090
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 9: quarterback at New Orleans for the day game as the

2091
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 9: Saints host the Jaguars, and there is a game on

2092
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 9: Fox TV Tomorrow night, eight Bills at Bears, and then

2093
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 9: one more on Monday night to finish out the weekend,

2094
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 9: and then next weekend that's it for the preseason. We'll

2095
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 9: get a couple of games on Thursday, a few more

2096
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 9: on Friday, the twenty second, plenty of games next Saturday,

2097
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 9: including the late game Raiders at Cardinals, and that will

2098
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 9: be it for the NFL preseason next Saturday night. The

2099
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 9: Raiders lost at home in Vegas today twenty two to

2100
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 9: nineteen to San Francisco, which kicked a fifty nine yard

2101
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 9: field goal on the final play after getting a pick

2102
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 9: to regain possession. So Jake Moody had three field goals

2103
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 9: just in the last ten minutes from forty four, fifty

2104
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 9: and fifty nine yards out. Moody five of six on

2105
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 9: field goals the Rams. Stetson Bennett played at quarterback all

2106
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 9: night in LA, including throwing the game winning touchdown to

2107
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 9: beat the Chargers twenty three to twenty two. That game

2108
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 9: winner with five seconds left. Bennett finished with three hundred

2109
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 9: twenty four yards passing three touchdowns one interception. Miami wonted

2110
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 9: Detroit twenty four to seventeen, but running back Jalen through

2111
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 9: two contests has twelve carries just nineteen yards for the Dolphins. Meanwhile,

2112
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 9: rookie Ali Gordon with fifty yards rushing on ten carries

2113
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 9: for Miami. Today. We got some carries for Nick Chubb

2114
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 9: in Houston today the Texans won twenty to three over Carolina.

2115
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 9: Chubb five carries, twenty five yards. Panthers quarterback Bryce Young

2116
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 9: oh of two passing. Andy Dalton came on but suffered

2117
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 9: what appears to be a right elbow sprain. According to

2118
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 9: the team, he will undergo further evaluation. On Sunday, the

2119
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 9: Milwaukee Brewers won their fourteenth game in a row and

2120
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 9: eleven inning victory six to five at Cincinnati. Cubs beat

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Speaker 9: Pittsburgh three to one. The Phillies were shut out two

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Speaker 9: nothing at Washington, and Ace pitcher Zach Wheeler goes on

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Speaker 9: the injured list. Mets beat Seattle three to one. AL

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Speaker 9: East wins for Toronto, Boston, and the Yankees, who won

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Speaker 9: twelve eight at Saint Louis. Houston's the best in the

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Speaker 9: West at the moment in the AL game and a

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Speaker 9: half lead over Seattle. Houston won in twelve innings five

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Speaker 9: to four against Baltimore, and Yes, the Dodgers are alone

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Speaker 9: and first in the NL West again after shutting out

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Speaker 9: the Padres six nothing. The win to Blake Snell, the

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Speaker 9: loss to Dylan c who's five and eleven he walks

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Speaker 9: six in three and a third Padre is a game back.

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Speaker 9: They'll play at LA again tomorrow. Golf's playoffs continue at

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Speaker 9: the BMW Championship. Robert McIntyre with a four stroke lead

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Speaker 9: over Scottie Scheffler. The Live Golf event is in Indianapolis

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Speaker 9: this week and Dustin Johnson is now tied for the

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Speaker 9: lead with Sebastian Munoz. Back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Steve de Seger, have a great evening.

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Speaker 1: The boys will see you tomorrow. Arnie Spaniard Chris Plank,

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Speaker 1: who were in obviously before us. We appreciate them filling

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Speaker 1: in before our show. And of course Mark Willard and

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Speaker 1: e from Salam Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin.

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Speaker 1: Up next, we will discuss the interview that broke the

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Speaker 1: Internet Taylor Swort, New Heights, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Errtoris Jason Martin broadcasting live for the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios. By the way, should mention if

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Speaker 1: we get off air. Nice segue, because it was a

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Speaker 1: pretty big podcast this week. Yess you may have heard

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Speaker 1: the young lady singing right there. Taylor Swift appeared on

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend's podcast which is done with his brother New

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Speaker 1: Heights Podcast Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelsey, Mary Mack. What did

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift have to say on that show so that I.

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Speaker 7: Became like a person who was running through the halls

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Speaker 7: of my house screaming we.

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Speaker 2: DRAFTEDXA if You're worthy?

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't like, what is who?

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Speaker 2: Body snatched you?

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Speaker 5: This is?

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Speaker 2: This is?

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Speaker 5: What do you mean?

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Speaker 9: We drafted You're worthy?

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Speaker 5: I forget where it was, but you were the first

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Speaker 5: person to tell me that.

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Speaker 9: I was screeching.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I was freaking out. We're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Either I'm like, wait, did she she write?

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Speaker 2: I had to look this up.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, she does she get the wrong information here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: We traded up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That was Taylor Swift on the New Heights Podcast literally

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Speaker 1: broke YouTube most set a record for most concurrent views

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Speaker 1: at one time. Trying to find uh the actual tally

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Speaker 1: on total views of that episode so far seventeen million

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Speaker 1: views and counting from three days ago. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: j Mart, I have not listened to it yet, but

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Speaker 1: all the clips that I've heard, including that one, and

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift seems like a sweet girl. I'm sorry. Like

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Speaker 1: I know, Hollywood gets to a lot of people, she

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Speaker 1: does not strike me as that kind of person. I

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Speaker 1: could be totally wrong. I know I shouldn't go off

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Speaker 1: interviews or podcasts or whatever, but I think she comes

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Speaker 1: off as as really genuine. And I'll add this to

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Speaker 1: the very few clips that I've heard and the clips

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Speaker 1: that I've seen. Actually, I think that the relationship that

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Speaker 1: she has comes off as genuine as well. I think

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Speaker 1: we both thought. Not we you and I both thought,

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Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people thought that they

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Speaker 1: were both using each other for exposure. You know, Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift to have a whole new album of songs to write,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey to blow up his personal brand. They seem

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Speaker 1: like a sweet couple. I'll just say this. The two

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Speaker 1: kids seem like they really are into each other. Again.

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Speaker 1: I might actually check out the podcast at some point,

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Speaker 1: but it did drop on Thursday and it was record setting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree with you. Basically, I think it's genuine,

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Speaker 2: and I think she's genuine at this point in this situation.

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Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why is because so much

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Speaker 2: of what she has done has been manufactured and you know,

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Speaker 2: very focused, tested and very phony. Quite frankly, a lot

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Speaker 2: of her career has felt a lot felt phony, and

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Speaker 2: it's been easy to spot like it hasn't. She's not

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Speaker 2: like a world class actress as it relates to that.

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Speaker 2: So listening to what I've heard of this podcast, I've

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Speaker 2: never listened to their podcast, and I don't doubt that

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Speaker 2: I'm actually going to go listen to this in its entirety,

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Speaker 2: But what I've heard sounds genuine because and that exavier

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Speaker 2: what do they cut now, I've heard that a couple

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Speaker 2: of times, Like that makes sense. Now, could you have said,

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Speaker 2: could you have like set all that up and told

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Speaker 2: her what to say and all that you could have?

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Speaker 2: But I don't think she could have pulled it off

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Speaker 2: that way. Like I don't think that she would have

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Speaker 2: sounded that way. These are just two people that seem

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Speaker 2: like their friends first, and this relationship that they have have,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the best kind of relationships, are the

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Speaker 2: ones that are They're not just one thing, they're a

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Speaker 2: bunch of things. But one of the great things is

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Speaker 2: that they want to be around each other more than

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Speaker 2: they want to be doing much else, And so when

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Speaker 2: they talk, there is a way to listen to it

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Speaker 2: where it is. It's bantery, it's conversational. Chemistry is the

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Speaker 2: wrong word because it connotes more of a romantic side.

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Speaker 2: In this case, I think it's just you can tell

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Speaker 2: these two people like one another. You can tell that

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Speaker 2: neither one of them is being coached on how to

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Speaker 2: sound like they like one another. You can spot that

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Speaker 2: from a mile away. We just can't, and I think,

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Speaker 2: especially in this case, because we're looking for it to

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Speaker 2: be fake. H We're looking for it to be phony

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Speaker 2: because to your point, when it started, it felt like

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Speaker 2: a partnership of convenience, and it was the over under

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Speaker 2: on how long it was going to last, and all

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Speaker 2: this well, it's already lasted longer than most people probably

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Speaker 2: would have thought because whatever benefit the two we're going

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01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: to get off one another, it's kind of over. Like

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Speaker 2: there's not that much more that they're going to be

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Speaker 2: able to gain at this point from continuing. And here's

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Speaker 2: the other thing. Taylor Swift's entire career has been about

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Speaker 2: endings that don't go very well. Her entire music career

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Speaker 2: has been stories of breakups and independent woman stuff and

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Speaker 2: trying to rise above scumbags and all this other kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff that she's done. This goes against that completely,

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01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 2: Like this is not her brand. It's never been her brand.

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Speaker 2: What I'm curious to see is when this new album drops,

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Speaker 2: is it going to have a different tone. Because from

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Speaker 2: everything that I could gather, the Tortured Poets Society was

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Speaker 2: just like all the rest of them. So is she

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Speaker 2: going to keep that character going or is she actually

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Speaker 2: going to show some kind of a maturity and growth

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Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, okay, yeah, there's something has shifted

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Speaker 2: here and that's the kind of thing that can happen.

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Speaker 2: And I said this to know the other day. I

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Speaker 2: had two daughters and I would love for them to

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Speaker 2: listen to Taylor Swift music down the road, and me

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Speaker 2: feel good about that because she was offering them something

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Speaker 2: positive that they could aspire to, because I don't know

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Speaker 2: that much of the music that she's put out has

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Speaker 2: actually done that. So I think that's the big thing.

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Speaker 2: But generally now I'm just rooting for it, like I'm

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Speaker 2: rooting for it to be real, and I'm rooting for

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Speaker 2: them for them to be happy forever. Quite frankly, I

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Speaker 2: think that's the best ending, and I feel a lot

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Speaker 2: better just going into the season, you'd start to think

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 2: about It's like she's probably been at way more football

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Speaker 2: games than she would have had to. She could have

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01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 2: excused herself out as so much of this, and she

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Speaker 2: hasn't done it. So I'm all for it now, I'm

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Speaker 2: all in favor of it.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what, that's a great way to wrap the show.

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Speaker 1: We got it, gotta get out of here. Want to

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Speaker 1: thank the crew, Mary Mack with some great music on

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Speaker 1: the board. Appreciate all your help. Producer Brandon for Steve

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Speaker 1: Disager and Bree on the update desk, and my partner

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01:59:57,160 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 1: Jason Martin. I'm Mayra Torres. Make sure to down the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sport.

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Speaker 2: Tune you