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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys fall in an NFC Least Battle twenty
Speaker 1: three to nine and fall to two and six on
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season last night in Philadelphia at the
Speaker 1: Lincoln Financial Field, and man, we've got a we got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. Whenever it comes to the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. Defense played better, but man,
Speaker 1: we've got a lot to hit there as well. Isaiah
Speaker 1: standback our residence. Super Bowl champion Cowboys insider Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: the sultry voice of heck Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans again.
Speaker 1: Thank you smooth jazz with heck Ma Harrison. Thanks again
Speaker 1: for joining us. And let's go ahead and get into this.
Speaker 1: Let's dissect what happened last night. Bend Nucci starting at
Speaker 1: quarterback the seventh round, rookie out of James Madison, and
Speaker 1: it did not go well for Denucci, the entire offense
Speaker 1: and Rob. Things just they were pretty out of whack
Speaker 1: from the get go on that side of the football.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and we might have lost Rob. Go
Speaker 1: for it, Hackma, Why does Rob do this to me
Speaker 1: on a sandwich in chest Monday. I know what Rob
Speaker 1: was gonna say. The Nucci looked like a rookie cat.
Speaker 1: We retired the name Gucci the Nucci from now on. Man,
Speaker 1: let let let a game. Um, oh my god, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's so it's so many things to unpack today, guys,
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to how we performed, we
Speaker 1: loot that rookie quarterback just couldn't get this office going
Speaker 1: at all. And we were looking for the running game.
Speaker 1: I like the wildcat as the new wrinkle to try
Speaker 1: and get Zeke involved, but it just seemed like none
Speaker 1: of it worked in. When we got down into the
Speaker 1: goal line, we just couldn't punch it in. And all
Speaker 1: of those are byproduct of having a rookie, having a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. We did the best we could. I felt
Speaker 1: like defensively we started off pretty bad. The running game
Speaker 1: for the for the Eagles were just gashing us. But
Speaker 1: then we started to shore up some of those days.
Speaker 1: And if we want to look for any bright spot,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll we'll start talking about trey Von Diggs.
Speaker 1: But even with Diggs, it was a it was a
Speaker 1: good and that was also a bad. But my god, man,
Speaker 1: where do you go from here? And with what you
Speaker 1: have on the horizon? Yeah, we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: a lot of other things other than what we're going
Speaker 1: this season as Zaiah, what are your thoughts after last
Speaker 1: night's loss? Terrible? Terrible and and Charles Brownie terrible? Um,
Speaker 1: it was awful, man, It was hard to watch Kyle,
Speaker 1: you and I watched it together. There's really not a
Speaker 1: whole lot to say about this, and I wish we
Speaker 1: could just look forward to the next week, but I
Speaker 1: don't think we really want to do that right now. Um,
Speaker 1: it was bad, man. I know a lot it's gonna
Speaker 1: be placed on Denucci, and yes, he had a rough night.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of this, and I mentioned
Speaker 1: this last night on the post game show, a lot
Speaker 1: of this falls on the shoulders of Keller Moore too.
Speaker 1: Keller Moore did not call a good game. He did
Speaker 1: not set this offense up for success. Um. He whenever
Speaker 1: there was momentum on the on our side of the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, he killed the momentum with terrible play. Call
Speaker 1: the reverse. Oh, let's there's there was There was three
Speaker 1: or four I know account three for sure, reverse slash
Speaker 1: reverse passes that were in the mix. Um, I think
Speaker 1: we had three different quarterbacks play last night. It was
Speaker 1: just it was a lot, man, it was a lot.
Speaker 1: I think I think Moore was overwhelmed with the situation.
Speaker 1: He didn't handle that accordingly. De Nucci did not handle
Speaker 1: his his opportunity well. Um, whenever he did have receivers
Speaker 1: opened the ball, the placement was It was awful. Uh.
Speaker 1: Obviously he made some really bad decisions as well as
Speaker 1: terms of whether to throw the ball away or not. Um,
Speaker 1: he got lucky on some players that should have been
Speaker 1: picked off. He did not secure the ball. It was
Speaker 1: just it was all around bad, you know what, Like
Speaker 1: I said, But the bright spot was the defense did
Speaker 1: play a little bit better and they were hustling. And
Speaker 1: one thing I could I can't say about this entire
Speaker 1: team is the energy was better. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if it has I don't have to know if that
Speaker 1: has anything to do with the fact that the guys
Speaker 1: that they let go of, but I feel like it does.
Speaker 1: I know, when there's veterans in front of you, you
Speaker 1: tend to kind of hold back. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be yourself because those guys kind of setting the president
Speaker 1: of what was our team is. But with those guys gone,
Speaker 1: you saw the energy, you saw the fire I'm in desire,
Speaker 1: but it just didn't it didn't manifest anything. Rob, are
Speaker 1: you back, I'm there. I'm sorry, fellas. Okay, we're more
Speaker 1: basically just giving her Yeah, good morning, welcome, welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. I'm glad. I wish we were still back
Speaker 1: in person for this this week. But since you are back, yeah,
Speaker 1: give us your thoughts on this loss and kind of
Speaker 1: the generalities that you took from it last night. Well,
Speaker 1: I caught part of what Isaiah said, and you know,
Speaker 1: offensively it the situation was what it was. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about it going into the game. Bin to Nucci,
Speaker 1: clearly he wasn't ready for this opportunity, and that's really
Speaker 1: no fault of his own. H And I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's really the cowboy's fault because look, you know,
Speaker 1: no preseason game reps at all, even on top of
Speaker 1: just one week to prepare. H he. You know, they
Speaker 1: changed some things up on him that Philly did in
Speaker 1: terms of they didn't blitz as much, they kind of
Speaker 1: played more coverage, and I think that threw him off.
Speaker 1: And you know, Isaiah referenced the game plan in terms
Speaker 1: of some of the trick plays. You know, de Nucci's
Speaker 1: situation manifested itself with that game plan, with trying to
Speaker 1: do some some weird things to throw Philly off and
Speaker 1: and and make things happen. And really it did, you know,
Speaker 1: other than CD's nineteen yard reverse run on the second
Speaker 1: play from scrimmage. They didn't really get much out of
Speaker 1: those plays, and you know reference I think Isaiah you
Speaker 1: referenced the one in the third quarter where you know
Speaker 1: you're pounding the rock. It's I think it's seven straight
Speaker 1: runs and they're actually getting something going on the ground,
Speaker 1: and then you have a somebody missed a block on
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox. I believe it was ten yard loss for
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, and that was you know, that was your
Speaker 1: opportunity to get in the game. And I know fans
Speaker 1: are gonna are upset. I'm sure you know it's a
Speaker 1: wasted effort by the defense by far their best performance
Speaker 1: of the season. But I do think going into this game,
Speaker 1: the situation was what it was, you know, with ben
Speaker 1: da Nucci trying to make this thing happen, they were
Speaker 1: going to be challenged all night. And ultimately the scorer
Speaker 1: isn't really that surprising to me, and we kind of
Speaker 1: talked about it all week. Was we knew the situation
Speaker 1: going in with the quarterback and with Vinda Nucci and
Speaker 1: the fact that the numbers are stacked against him. I
Speaker 1: believe Cowboys rookies starters at quarterback were three and ten
Speaker 1: now three and eleven backup since two thousand and seven
Speaker 1: were seven and twenty two as a starter, so overall
Speaker 1: the numbers were stacked against them no matter what. But
Speaker 1: we also said in order to kind of combat that
Speaker 1: got up the play calling, and I felt like they
Speaker 1: tried to get creative with play calling, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily anything that worked. It didn't work, and then you
Speaker 1: kept going back to it and it didn't work again,
Speaker 1: and he went back to it again and it was
Speaker 1: the same result. It was a little frustrating to see
Speaker 1: the thought process going on there, but not going away
Speaker 1: and making adjustments mid game. That's something that I really
Speaker 1: didn't like, Isaiah. Whenever it came to the play calling
Speaker 1: that was out on the field, it didn't help your
Speaker 1: guys out of a whole lot. No, And you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1: And the thing that you want to do whenever you
Speaker 1: have a young quarterback or somebody that's just trying to
Speaker 1: simply get established with some confidence, is you want to
Speaker 1: give him a limited amount of plays, right, And we
Speaker 1: always heard about how everybody needs how they needed to
Speaker 1: dumb down the playbook for him. I feel like you
Speaker 1: could have gave him now the typical play call sheet.
Speaker 1: Let me just help everybody understand it. She's usually about
Speaker 1: two hundred to three hundred calls on a play on
Speaker 1: a play call sheet. So when you got to see
Speaker 1: the coach over there with his little with his little whatever,
Speaker 1: little classic piece of paper. Um, I can I think
Speaker 1: of the name, it was laminated lamind thank you very much,
Speaker 1: laminated paper. Um, that's about it's about. There's usually about
Speaker 1: three hundred calls on that, depending on the coach, right,
Speaker 1: depending on how how how how deep they want to
Speaker 1: go into their their offense. But I feel like they
Speaker 1: should have probably dumbed that down to probably around seventy
Speaker 1: five plays for him, um and taking those plays right
Speaker 1: and then totally just change the formation, change the personnel.
Speaker 1: It's something we used to do in New England all
Speaker 1: the time. Are we had a very extensive offense, but
Speaker 1: a lot of the times we're going to going to
Speaker 1: a game a week and we would simply just take
Speaker 1: about twenty plays and we would just run those same
Speaker 1: plays over and over and over again. It but we
Speaker 1: were running from different personnel and running from different formations.
Speaker 1: We run from different motions to get to get to
Speaker 1: those positions. That way, he's not overthinking things. But it
Speaker 1: looks totally different to the defense. So there's a way
Speaker 1: of going about it. And I think that I think more.
Speaker 1: I think this is a test for him. As much
Speaker 1: as this was a rookie stepping up into this position,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Kellen Moore, this was his his
Speaker 1: rookie showing in terms of how to handle a handle
Speaker 1: on somebody in this situation. Yeah, Isaiah, And it looked
Speaker 1: like Swartz. It looked like Schwartz had an easy game
Speaker 1: plan for the Nuccie that confused him. That came at
Speaker 1: points in the game where you could tell the rookie
Speaker 1: was struggling. He was seeing fifteen dbs back there, he
Speaker 1: couldn't find any spaces at times where the offensive line
Speaker 1: actually gave him the time to throw. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you're going into a game like this, and we
Speaker 1: talked about the pitch count and saying that, look, man,
Speaker 1: if we got to the point where the Nucci through
Speaker 1: the ball forty times, we were in trouble. Look at
Speaker 1: the statue through the ball ball forty times. But the
Speaker 1: worst quarterback in this game wasn't being the Nucci, it
Speaker 1: was the other guy. So I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to just place your hat on anything. We didn't do
Speaker 1: ourselves any favors in this game to win it. But
Speaker 1: Philly is terrible as well, all right, and so they
Speaker 1: got by and it wasn't we couldn't overcome some of
Speaker 1: our mistakes for our rookie quarterback. But look, man, Philly
Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere fast and based off of their schedule
Speaker 1: and what they have coming up, if we can just
Speaker 1: get some things correct, and I can't even believe I'm
Speaker 1: saying this, Yeah, well we gotta get Well that's the thing, man.
Speaker 1: The Philly is terrible. They're bad, all right, and you
Speaker 1: could tell. But the way that wins is holding on
Speaker 1: to the ball. Look, man, it's not gonna get any better.
Speaker 1: And if we just had a little bit at quarterback,
Speaker 1: that was a game for our for us to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, WinCE Wentz made three more throws than the
Speaker 1: Nucci did, as as much as the Nucci struggled in
Speaker 1: that game. I mean he had the touchdown pass and
Speaker 1: a couple of the throws and other than that, you know,
Speaker 1: I know it was it looked windy, looked really windy,
Speaker 1: but there was he was just throwing balls up for grabs.
Speaker 1: You know, the accuracy for Wentz has been a problem
Speaker 1: all year long. But um, you know, to piggyback on
Speaker 1: what Isaiah said, I mean with the Nucci, I think
Speaker 1: the play calling could have helped. I think they should
Speaker 1: have stuck to the run, especially in the second half
Speaker 1: when it was working. But I just feel like he
Speaker 1: just was in a He was over matched in this game.
Speaker 1: I mean early on you could tell he was. He
Speaker 1: held the ball too long on that first bumble, he
Speaker 1: was processing things too slowly. The best thing they had
Speaker 1: going offensively was those little short flares, those short screens
Speaker 1: to the top receivers and let those guys work, let them,
Speaker 1: let them work in space. But anytime they tried to
Speaker 1: go down the field, I mean, it was an adventure
Speaker 1: because you thought it was gonna get picked off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was something that made you nervous. He gave you
Speaker 1: the bubble guts whenever you saw him step back and
Speaker 1: actually try and throw one, because you didn't know how
Speaker 1: long it was going to take until that pocket collapsed,
Speaker 1: and then you had to see his escapability. I thought
Speaker 1: Ben Nannucci did a nice job running the ball last night,
Speaker 1: and I think he used his legs on a couple
Speaker 1: of occasions. Now, whenever it comes to the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and we talked about protecting him, what did we think
Speaker 1: about the offensive line, because going back and watching it,
Speaker 1: I thought Tyler Beatis maybe had his best game at center.
Speaker 1: Zach Martin absolutely helped. But man, we've got a problem
Speaker 1: on the right side of that offensive line. HECMA, yes,
Speaker 1: we do, and we gotta figure out what Terace Steele
Speaker 1: has on the coaching staff for him to continue to
Speaker 1: line up at right tackle. This first half was horrible.
Speaker 1: I think he got better as the game went alone.
Speaker 1: They got him some help, but man, on that offensive line,
Speaker 1: he is the one guy that you can point to this. Look,
Speaker 1: we have some leakage on that side, but you're right, Kyle,
Speaker 1: be honest. They showed it in also having Zach Martin
Speaker 1: back as well did a really good These guys did
Speaker 1: a really good job up front. The protection was there
Speaker 1: in some circumstances, but you have to look at the
Speaker 1: situation and Benny Knuti was just holding onto the ball
Speaker 1: way too long, and on that one play where he
Speaker 1: had Fletcher Cox coming right at him, I'm just screaming
Speaker 1: at my television. Throw the ball being and It's a
Speaker 1: couple of times where it's like, man, you have to
Speaker 1: recognize ninety one coming at you, and it's just then
Speaker 1: the recognition wasn't there. You couldn't recognize ninety one coming
Speaker 1: at you. He obviously, he obviously could not recognize ninety
Speaker 1: one coming up. Wasn't Delaware's defensive end coming back down
Speaker 1: at you. That wasn't that. That wasn't Stony Brooks coming
Speaker 1: at you. There, that was flex your cox, Hey, brow
Speaker 1: the ball, Brow the ball, get it out of your hands.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Isaiah this because he was in
Speaker 1: studio last night. I didn't get a chance to talk
Speaker 1: to him. But from a quarterback's perspective, was he just
Speaker 1: was he just seeing like Heck said just fifteen guys.
Speaker 1: Was it was everything just going too fast for him?
Speaker 1: Because it seemed like maybe it's settled down a little
Speaker 1: bit in the second half, but early on it was
Speaker 1: just like I he just there's too much going on
Speaker 1: for him. I think, yeah, No, I think I mentioned
Speaker 1: this to Kyle and Nate and studio. In the first
Speaker 1: quarter when Ben don you dropped back, I think I
Speaker 1: think it was like a third down play and you
Speaker 1: could see how he wasn't looking downfield. His eyes were
Speaker 1: not downfield. He was concerned with the rush. And at
Speaker 1: the time that he was doing that, there was only
Speaker 1: four guys rushing. Well, I'm sorry, Ben, those are gonna
Speaker 1: be the same four guys coming at you all game long, changing,
Speaker 1: you know. But I've been there before when I was
Speaker 1: when I was a young quarterback in college. You know,
Speaker 1: you get caught up looking at the rush. You're so
Speaker 1: concerned about about getting sacked that you that you now
Speaker 1: can't focus on doing your job, which is making sure
Speaker 1: that you deliver the ball down the field. Um. And
Speaker 1: you know in throwing downs and it's a lot, man,
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of reputation. Um, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: him a while, and we don't have a while. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: hopefully any dog can get back and get some form
Speaker 1: of stability going forward. Um, but he's young, man. It sucks.
Speaker 1: It's that's a sucky situation. I think he I think
Speaker 1: he failed in his in his h in his rookie start. Um.
Speaker 1: I think you know, like I said, Kelling Moore, he
Speaker 1: was a rookie in this in this particular situation, and
Speaker 1: he failed as well. Hey, what about the side on right,
Speaker 1: that was terrible. Man. I don't he came pulling that
Speaker 1: out too on the sideline. That's a question, Kyle. We
Speaker 1: were in training camp and he didn't get a ton
Speaker 1: of reps. But I know he kind of throws like that.
Speaker 1: But the one by the sideline, like I don't remember
Speaker 1: him doing the white earb things. Oh where it's like
Speaker 1: a complete side arm. That was new because I feel
Speaker 1: like whenever he pulled it out, the first thought I had,
Speaker 1: and you can I can guarantee Nate and Isaiah remember
Speaker 1: me doing this. I jumped up, I had some ribs
Speaker 1: on my plate and I put it on the ground
Speaker 1: and I said, listen here, that was a baseball throw.
Speaker 1: And I mean he was basically like a like a
Speaker 1: short stop coming around and throwing sidearm off balance. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's hard to do one, but two, that's such a
Speaker 1: low accurately play. I don't know what he's thinking. They're
Speaker 1: trying to make something. Everybody, everybody on this everybody on
Speaker 1: the sideline just watched the ball go by, like what
Speaker 1: was that? They said, Yeah, I love that brand. But
Speaker 1: you just that's what you do. Man. When you're in
Speaker 1: that situation, you're trying to You're trying to find something, right,
Speaker 1: You're trying to find something positive, man, because he knows
Speaker 1: I can't sit in the pocket. Whenever I do get
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, guys are covered up, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to run out of bounds, right, because that's
Speaker 1: kind of weak of me to run out of bounds.
Speaker 1: So they me trying to force something without getting an interception.
Speaker 1: So I has to be a low percentage throw because
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be a high percentage interception ratio. Right.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just bad, man. It's just it was
Speaker 1: all around not good. And we talked about it. I
Speaker 1: think I mentioned it on the show on Friday. Out
Speaker 1: there from Tostitos, it was about talking about how my
Speaker 1: biggest fear is about him holding the ball, right, It
Speaker 1: was about him holding the ball because he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to wait. In his mind, he needs to wait till
Speaker 1: these guys are all the way open, because it's in
Speaker 1: his head. Don't throw a pick. Don't throw a pick. Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't throw a pick, so that's good. But you
Speaker 1: just happened to fumbel the ball because these guys are
Speaker 1: coming after you. You're holding onto it too long. So
Speaker 1: that was one of my biggest concerns in and we
Speaker 1: saw that come back to bite him. I feel for
Speaker 1: him because I asked him after the game about the
Speaker 1: speed of the game, and he said that all week
Speaker 1: in his mind, he kept tell himself, I gotta play fast.
Speaker 1: I gotta play fast. I gotta play fast. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I don't know if you means yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel the speed of it
Speaker 1: until you're actually out there waiting with live reps. Well,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you guys brought up the side arm
Speaker 1: conversation because there were a couple of drops in there
Speaker 1: as well from good throws from Ben Denucci, but it
Speaker 1: were dropped at a certain point. I kind of want
Speaker 1: Isaiah to go through that here in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: But when we come back, you're on Talking Cowboys. We're
Speaker 1: gonna step aside, but don't go anywhere, because when we
Speaker 1: come back, that would Andy Dalton have won last night's game.
Speaker 1: I asked that question and we get an explanation on
Speaker 1: some of those wide receiver drops. When we return on
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Speaker 1: Second segment here of Talking Cowboys from the s WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. Glad you're with us, Rob Phillips, isaiahs Dan
Speaker 1: backhack My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and I tease this
Speaker 1: going into the break as we continue our breakdown of
Speaker 1: the eagles twenty three to nine win over the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Cowboys out at two and six and doesn't get easier
Speaker 1: on the horizon. Pittsburgh Steelers only undefeated team in the
Speaker 1: NFL on the horizon this weekend on the docket coming
Speaker 1: to AT and T Stadium. Now I tease this, like
Speaker 1: I said, but would Andy Dalton have one last night's game?
Speaker 1: I mean, we look at the stats from Benda Nucci
Speaker 1: twenty one to forty one hundred and eighty yards, no
Speaker 1: touch downs, no interceptions, didn't really get close at any
Speaker 1: point of either one of those. Couldn't finish drives. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys were in, had an opportunity twice to get in
Speaker 1: this football game, especially at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: They went with it, went forward on fourth and two,
Speaker 1: didn't get it. You look at maybe kicking a field
Speaker 1: goal there. You should have it tied at fifteen at
Speaker 1: later in the game because of where the football was.
Speaker 1: But I mean, put all that in the rearview mirror.
Speaker 1: I asked the question, Rob Dalton, does he get a
Speaker 1: w last night because of the situation of that football game. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think if they had just kind of average quarterback
Speaker 1: play last night, they win the game because of what
Speaker 1: the defense was able to do. Just to really if
Speaker 1: they just had completed a few more throws. And I
Speaker 1: think maybe with Dalton they would have had more of
Speaker 1: that traditional game plan because because of the experience, and
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have had to try some of those plays
Speaker 1: at Kellamore tried that didn't work. Now, the protections another
Speaker 1: facet of it. And obviously with pressure pressuring Dalton, that's
Speaker 1: been a problem when we've seen him in games. And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Coin took you away from the offensive line
Speaker 1: in the first segment. I thought what encourages me is
Speaker 1: the run blocking that they were able to get going
Speaker 1: with Zach back in the game, that that is something
Speaker 1: to build on going forward, and that gives me some
Speaker 1: some encouragement with with Andy if he comes back this week,
Speaker 1: as early as this week, that they can establish some
Speaker 1: of that balance and keep some of that balance with
Speaker 1: Zeke and with Tony Pollard, and you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. I know, I know Heck brought up do
Speaker 1: they need to do something at right tackle? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we've been talking about that for a while. I
Speaker 1: still feel that way, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: know Mike McCarthy doesn't want to switch out two spots,
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at this matchup coming up with Bud
Speaker 1: Dupree and t J. Watt and maybe you want to
Speaker 1: shore up that right side. But but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think with a couple more plays, I think with
Speaker 1: a couple more plays from Dalton, they would have won
Speaker 1: this game. And that's not again, that's not a knock
Speaker 1: on the Nutsie. I think he was put in. It's
Speaker 1: a tough situation, a really bad situation for a young
Speaker 1: player trying to come and win that game last night
Speaker 1: instead of playing I think, because I think instead of
Speaker 1: playing coverage swards, then blitz is more and maybe that's
Speaker 1: that's a whole different defensive game playing if Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: is the starter a quarterback, but maybe game management wise,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton would have given you a lot more. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to articulate any of that after a
Speaker 1: game where offensively we just couldn't get anything going, or
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone where we had a couple
Speaker 1: opportunities to strike and only came away with three points.
Speaker 1: So look, it's I'm gonna say yes, and especially if
Speaker 1: you ask me if if Dak was starting, yeah, we
Speaker 1: win that game. I don't agree with that. If Dak
Speaker 1: is playing Isaiah's gonna just like no. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: to think so. I like to think so. Um. And
Speaker 1: it mainly because of the point that Rob brought up,
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about it just you know, swapping
Speaker 1: out the quarterbacks and what that would present. But you know,
Speaker 1: you have to take to account that Kelly Morris would
Speaker 1: not have been called on half the bs that he
Speaker 1: was calling yesterday. And if they and if that's the case,
Speaker 1: and I think they do put themselves in a position
Speaker 1: to win the game, um, because I think that they
Speaker 1: probably would have stick stuck with the traditional running more
Speaker 1: than all the craziness. Uh. So I think I think
Speaker 1: they probably win the game. I'm I say that with
Speaker 1: hesitation because of the lack the lackluster effort at the
Speaker 1: office on line put forth whenever they did have any
Speaker 1: Dolton um, you know, last week. And if they if
Speaker 1: that's an indication of what's to come, um, in terms
Speaker 1: of their effort based upon that particular quarterback, then we
Speaker 1: have we got we still have woes and worries, um.
Speaker 1: But if they gave the effort that they gave last
Speaker 1: night with a different scheme, yes they win the game.
Speaker 1: That was another encouraging thing We can talk about the
Speaker 1: turnovers on defense, but the team came out with a
Speaker 1: little bit of an energy. They came out. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the first time, really all year we saw
Speaker 1: a bit of swagger. And I said that initially on
Speaker 1: the postgame show as well. Was we finally saw some swagger,
Speaker 1: we saw the energy. I don't know what flipped the
Speaker 1: switch in that regard, and maybe the early players helped
Speaker 1: to continue that at least until halftime, But then after
Speaker 1: halftime things kind of fell apart and it went back
Speaker 1: to normal. But where does that energy come from from
Speaker 1: a Cowboys perspective? Is it playing for a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: knowing you had to do your job and just playing
Speaker 1: relentlessly as opposed to playing conservatively and sorry for yourself.
Speaker 1: I really think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: the with the veterans being removed, and I think I
Speaker 1: was talking to Nate about this last night. When you
Speaker 1: have some some older veteran guys on the team, you
Speaker 1: look to them as a young guy, you look to
Speaker 1: them to set the culture, You look at them to
Speaker 1: set the tempo. You don't want to kind of overstep
Speaker 1: your boundaries, right because you're you're you're lower on a
Speaker 1: totem poles, so you kind of play your position in
Speaker 1: your spot. And you know, even when those guys aren't
Speaker 1: doing what they should be doing, you still kind of
Speaker 1: staying you in your spot because you're still second fiddle.
Speaker 1: Right as soon as those guys are removed. As soon
Speaker 1: as you remove those guys, now what, oh shoot, we
Speaker 1: could turn up. You know what I'm saying, We could
Speaker 1: turn up. Let's go. I don't have anybody that I
Speaker 1: don't have big brother that's gonna say, hey, chill out,
Speaker 1: a little homie. I don't have that, right, So now
Speaker 1: I can go out there and I can play free.
Speaker 1: And you saw those guys coming out and they're having
Speaker 1: fun and they're getting geeked and they're juiced up, and
Speaker 1: that's what this team needs. And it was very It
Speaker 1: was awesome to see. Um. We just need to see
Speaker 1: it turn into more positive plays. There were some positive
Speaker 1: players last night, and the defense did play better and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that came from that energy.
Speaker 1: So I think it's just the young guys being allowed
Speaker 1: to be young guys without having to worry about big
Speaker 1: brother looking over their shoulder. Yeah, we got a lot
Speaker 1: more we got a lot more from guys that we've
Speaker 1: been calling their name tank. We had a tank siding.
Speaker 1: So for all the Tank haters, let's let's talk about
Speaker 1: the job the tank did last night. And also Randy Gregory. Gregory,
Speaker 1: they that won what was it the Yeah, the rough
Speaker 1: in the passer? Yeah, yeah, that was a horrible call,
Speaker 1: but I think we got an interception based off of that.
Speaker 1: But either way, you saw a lot more energy and
Speaker 1: whether that was from guys getting the axe of getting
Speaker 1: their bus tickets out of town, whatever that was, you
Speaker 1: saw the defense definitely came into the game with a
Speaker 1: different approach and I love seeing it. But just from
Speaker 1: the front line standpoint, you're just not seeing as many
Speaker 1: guys get blown off the ball. But I said this before,
Speaker 1: even with getting rid of number ninety five, you may
Speaker 1: realize that you have a few other guys on your
Speaker 1: defensive line that are still presenting problems for your scheme
Speaker 1: that you're playing. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean
Speaker 1: they Boston Scott. I was worried about him all week,
Speaker 1: and I think he had forty something yards on the
Speaker 1: first two drives rushing and he wound up with like
Speaker 1: fifty two. They just hex right. They did a better
Speaker 1: job shoring things up with the run defense. But I
Speaker 1: mean when take Lawrence says after last game, we need
Speaker 1: more fight, we need more backbone, and he's a captain,
Speaker 1: a leader, and he steps up with a sack on
Speaker 1: the second play of the game. And we talked about
Speaker 1: the defense needing a spark that set the tone, and
Speaker 1: then we talked about needing takeaway, something to spark this defense.
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson comes up with takeaway right up the bat,
Speaker 1: and I think they kind of set set the tone
Speaker 1: and got themselves feeling good about themselves. And I think
Speaker 1: they made some adjustments in the run defense if they're
Speaker 1: going to continue this, and that's it was. It was
Speaker 1: a really good performance. It's something to build on. They
Speaker 1: have to be more. They have to find a way
Speaker 1: to carry this over though, and if they're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: they've got to be able to continue being sound against
Speaker 1: the run against James Connor this week, against everybody else
Speaker 1: going forward. But I thought that first drive just kind
Speaker 1: of set the tone and got them feeling good about
Speaker 1: themselves for once. But pick backing off of that, rob
Speaker 1: whenever you make those plays on defense and you come
Speaker 1: out with that energy and that fire, that desire, and
Speaker 1: then you give the ball back to your offense and
Speaker 1: they go wow wow right, like it literally it takes
Speaker 1: it out of you, man, instead of those guys being
Speaker 1: excited about the next opportunity, right, instead of being excited
Speaker 1: about the next opportuneportunity because guess what, we went out there,
Speaker 1: we got sacks, we got a strip sack whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and we and we get the ball right back to
Speaker 1: our office and they go out there and they score
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Okay, cool, we got a great relationship going, right.
Speaker 1: This is a relationship. Now, this is not one sided.
Speaker 1: Nobody likes being in a relationship where you're always the
Speaker 1: one giving, right, So that's what this is. Can't turn
Speaker 1: into that because then you have resentment, and then you
Speaker 1: have guys starting to take plays off, and then you
Speaker 1: get guys starting to just collect checks. And we've already
Speaker 1: seen that already happen. Oh, you're absolutely right. I do
Speaker 1: think this game was a little different in that I
Speaker 1: think everybody knows what Ben was up against this game,
Speaker 1: and so you know, maybe now with Andy coming back,
Speaker 1: maybe this week it's a different story. Because like you said,
Speaker 1: I mean ten you're vet. You're expecting a guy that's
Speaker 1: going to move the offense consistently. That's what you brought
Speaker 1: him in for. But yeah, with Ben, I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, it was what it was, you know, trying
Speaker 1: trying to get trying to get him going, trying to
Speaker 1: help him out, and whenever you talk about the energy,
Speaker 1: I mean, it finally looked like a team that was
Speaker 1: tired to get and pushed around. And maybe it was
Speaker 1: a rivalry game, maybe it was because it was primetime,
Speaker 1: but even in previous rivalry games or even primetime games,
Speaker 1: we had seen them get pushed around and kind of
Speaker 1: embarrassed on national television. I don't think they got embarrassed
Speaker 1: last night. I thought that was a game they had
Speaker 1: a chance to win. Of course, they led at halftime.
Speaker 1: They had a chance later on to maybe tie the
Speaker 1: game if they would have had had the drive to
Speaker 1: put it together or take the lead if you had
Speaker 1: that drive. But like you said, Isaiah, it really was
Speaker 1: deflating to have the offense performed the way they did. Now.
Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier, but there was also some deflating plays,
Speaker 1: specifically from your whiteouts, and you need every single reception
Speaker 1: in a game like this. You need Michael Gallup to
Speaker 1: make a grab. You need Amari Cooper and Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: to make the catches that are in their chests. And
Speaker 1: they were on multiple occasions off of a sidearm throw
Speaker 1: from Ben de Nucci that the ball ended up hitting
Speaker 1: off their chest and falling to the turf. What goes
Speaker 1: into that as a wide receiver, and it's something that
Speaker 1: I think shouldn't be that big of a difference. But
Speaker 1: is it that big of a difference seeing it come
Speaker 1: out of the side arm delivery? Well, you gotta get
Speaker 1: over the shock of what the heck is going on.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there's no let me before I say that.
Speaker 1: There's no excuse. Okay, the old school rule, if it
Speaker 1: touches your hands or touches your chest, you gotta bring
Speaker 1: you gotta catch it, right, So no excuse, don't let me,
Speaker 1: don't let me. I don't want anybody to be misinterpret
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But on a hilarious note, what the
Speaker 1: heck like when you when you watch them a ball
Speaker 1: come out like that, they probably turned their head. You
Speaker 1: ever call a dog's name or you ever done something
Speaker 1: to a dog and a dog like that's probably I
Speaker 1: assume that's probably what those guys did when he pulled.
Speaker 1: When he threw that thing side on there is that
Speaker 1: and then they say, you know, you heard him say
Speaker 1: all week, the ball gets up on you quick, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that's what happened. They probably had a
Speaker 1: little little dog moment and little ears perked up, and
Speaker 1: then the ball kept crept up on him. But I mean,
Speaker 1: they gotta make plays, man, There's there's no excuse. They
Speaker 1: have to catch the ball. You know, Denucci has to
Speaker 1: do better. I mean, to your point, Kyle, you when
Speaker 1: the ball comes your way, you gotta catch your rocket,
Speaker 1: especially when you're in these situations. Man. But I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure they were surprised as some of the styles that
Speaker 1: he that he utilized. We compared him to a little motion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we compared him to a couple of different quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: have thrown that way prior, but definitely not the same
Speaker 1: result as some of the names that we threw out
Speaker 1: there last night. Now, when we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to go to the defensive side of the football. Yes,
Speaker 1: there were four turnovers, but there was still plenty that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys needed to work on, especially when you've got
Speaker 1: weapons like Chase Claypool, Juju Smith's Schuster, Ben Roethlisberger and
Speaker 1: company coming to town this week. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that defense and were those turnovers gimmis or was it
Speaker 1: the defense showing improvement. We'll talk about it next year.
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Speaker 1: here of the Monday edition of Talking Cowboys the morning
Speaker 1: after a twenty three to nine loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Cowboys facing the Steelers coming up at at and T
Speaker 1: Stadium this week. Get your tickets. If anything, you get
Speaker 1: a chance to see the only remaining undefeated team in
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's always kind of cool having them come
Speaker 1: to town. We've got heck, my Harrison, we've got it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't have a I don't have a
Speaker 1: ticket's read, so I gotta say something about special tickets. Uh,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, isaiahs dan Back, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about the defense four turnovers, which is one
Speaker 1: more turnover than they had the previous seven games of
Speaker 1: the season combined. So you get the turnovers. You finally
Speaker 1: get that spark. Rob mentioned it earlier. You had to
Speaker 1: play from Donovan Wilson early on that that jarred the
Speaker 1: ball free from Carson Wins. He fumbled it again later
Speaker 1: on in the game, and then he also threw a
Speaker 1: pair of picks, both to mister Trayvon Diggs, our second
Speaker 1: round rookie out of Alabama. But Rob, whenever you look
Speaker 1: at this defense and you finally get those turnovers. Was
Speaker 1: it they had a better game or was it just
Speaker 1: this Eagles team was pretty terrible on their own? Right? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think he is. It's all in perspective, right,
Speaker 1: But I think I think as as bad as the
Speaker 1: defense is played for stretches and really for the entire season,
Speaker 1: with giving up a historic amount of yards and points,
Speaker 1: I think you're looking for You're looking for progress. You're
Speaker 1: looking for progress no matter who you're playing. Good point.
Speaker 1: I think we got it. I think we saw it.
Speaker 1: I thought they I think the best thing they did
Speaker 1: was was, like Isaiah mentioned was and Heck mentioned was
Speaker 1: the energy level uh and and continuing to kind of
Speaker 1: play for each other and uh and and be a
Speaker 1: little bit more assignment sound in the run game. I
Speaker 1: think there were steps made there. Um. My question is
Speaker 1: for you guys is with Treyvon Diggs, like I he
Speaker 1: had the two picks, Uh, where do you guys feel
Speaker 1: about where he's at in his rookie year because teams
Speaker 1: are still going after him. I like how he bounced
Speaker 1: his back and he doesn't let it seem to phase him.
Speaker 1: But I hope, I hope that part of it can
Speaker 1: get he can clean some of that technique up or
Speaker 1: whatever it is that's a that's preventing him from u
Speaker 1: you know, stopping some of these big plays that they're
Speaker 1: trying to get some downfield. Yeah, he's pretty good at
Speaker 1: his short term memory is pretty good. But then they
Speaker 1: continue to come after him. And he's a rookie, and
Speaker 1: you've heard those whispers about possibly benching him and letting
Speaker 1: some of the veteran guys go ahead so he can
Speaker 1: watch them and not be isolated in a situation where
Speaker 1: it feels like a trial by fire. But that's just
Speaker 1: who he is. And I love what Shaun Lee said
Speaker 1: about the rookie that he makes some great plays. If
Speaker 1: he makes a bad play, he's the kind of player
Speaker 1: that doesn't process the bad stuff. He wants to come
Speaker 1: back and continue to stay competitive. I like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: just like we talk about Bend Nutie being a quarterback,
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, we have to realize that we have
Speaker 1: a rookie cornerback that's getting everything thrown at him. And
Speaker 1: he had contest last night versus the guy from Fogum
Speaker 1: and Man. That was a battle and at times looked
Speaker 1: like he was getting the best of him. But getting
Speaker 1: those two pigs, man, that's gotta be good for his psyche,
Speaker 1: But he has other things that he has to clean
Speaker 1: up in his game as well. Cold on this coming
Speaker 1: to me, Oh, I'm letting it come to you. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about this here? Let me preface it real quickly
Speaker 1: because one of the biggest, one of the biggest knocks
Speaker 1: on treyvon Dix's game coming out of Alabama was the
Speaker 1: fact that he relied on his speed a little bit
Speaker 1: too much to the fact where his fundamentals weren't necessarily there. Now,
Speaker 1: this is once again a guy who switched from receiver
Speaker 1: to play cornerback his junior year at Alabama. So he's
Speaker 1: only been a corner for two and a half seasons
Speaker 1: really at this point, and even some of that he
Speaker 1: was hurt for a good amount of time. So really
Speaker 1: less than two seasons he's had in terms of seasoning
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position. So keep that in mind when
Speaker 1: you're looking at this guy. He's gonna make plays, but
Speaker 1: he's also going to give him up at the same time.
Speaker 1: And we saw that last night. Isaiah. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're about to go into this, but you saw the
Speaker 1: dig's name on the back of the jersey with the
Speaker 1: two in the seven there a little bit more than
Speaker 1: you would definitely like, is that what it said on
Speaker 1: the back? Yes, I appreciate the information on his his
Speaker 1: lack of experience. I mean that's definitely helpful. As my
Speaker 1: criticism of him, I'll hold back a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you don't have to hold back
Speaker 1: at all. I just wanted to give some context. No,
Speaker 1: come on, this is where you know, I's Monday. Let's
Speaker 1: go the digs. His two interceptions, he did those right,
Speaker 1: credit awesome U terrible plays by wins terrible. One of
Speaker 1: them was an awful, awful ball on a deep post
Speaker 1: that was I don't even know what that was. So
Speaker 1: that was a give me that he might as well
Speaker 1: have been back there by himself. But Brendan, you know, man,
Speaker 1: one of I don't know it should have been, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. So that's that's it.
Speaker 1: Give me um. Then you have a great catch um
Speaker 1: in the end zone. Right, a great catch by him.
Speaker 1: But what was Wentz doing in terms of throwing the
Speaker 1: ball away? Right? That was a throwaway ball that just
Speaker 1: didn't get thrown away. All the way out of the
Speaker 1: field of play. So two terrible plays that I give him.
Speaker 1: He has credit for him, but I don't really give
Speaker 1: him credit for it. Um. There's a lot of other
Speaker 1: players in there where he was playing, where he was
Speaker 1: playing aggressive, and I and I and I and I
Speaker 1: do I do like I do like how tenacious he
Speaker 1: is here he does. He does fight. He has some
Speaker 1: fighting him, he has some dogging him. And that's more
Speaker 1: that we can say about a lot of guys on
Speaker 1: this team. And I respect the crap out of him
Speaker 1: front of that, UM, but he you can see his inexperience.
Speaker 1: You can see his inexperience. Every team we've played has
Speaker 1: torched him. Every every ever reach at least once or
Speaker 1: at least right. So he's getting torched. And we talked
Speaker 1: about this during the week. Rob what I say, I said,
Speaker 1: don't let him play man to man. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: Stop putting him in these situations. He can't do it.
Speaker 1: He keeps walking up there like he wants to put
Speaker 1: his hands on somebody, and then guess what, he doesn't
Speaker 1: put his hands on them. He sits up there. He
Speaker 1: tries to shadow them. Right when I say shadow them,
Speaker 1: it's literally like he's in front of them and he's
Speaker 1: trying to make a mirror what they're doing at the
Speaker 1: release point, off the line of scrimmage, and then they
Speaker 1: just simply say, oh, he's not gonna touch me, show them,
Speaker 1: and they just run by him. Right And we saw
Speaker 1: it last night, Yeah, we saw it last night, and
Speaker 1: where it happened multiple times again where guys are just
Speaker 1: running by him and it's just bad man. At a
Speaker 1: certain point, you got to stop with that technique. If
Speaker 1: you're a big dude, you're a big corner, get up
Speaker 1: there and put your hands on him. If you're afraid
Speaker 1: of getting beat guess what they're beating you anyways, So
Speaker 1: you might as well go up there and see what
Speaker 1: it looks like when you try to put your hands
Speaker 1: on somebody. Use your size, use your length, and then
Speaker 1: go up there and continue to beat to nations. Continue
Speaker 1: to be a pest, because that's what you are. You're
Speaker 1: a pest. That's what you want to be as as
Speaker 1: a cornerback in this league. You have a lot of
Speaker 1: great attributes, but playing off coverage, off man, press coverage,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, that's not working to
Speaker 1: your advantage. I'll figure something else out. I will say
Speaker 1: the way he battles, and you're right. I mean he's
Speaker 1: given up a lot of big plays and he's not
Speaker 1: the only one this year. But the way he battles
Speaker 1: is what Mike McCarthy's looking for, what Mike Goland's looking for.
Speaker 1: Just continuing to fight, continuing to hang in there. And
Speaker 1: I think I think they think he's gonna be better
Speaker 1: for it. I knew too, but yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a it's been a tough year
Speaker 1: for him. I mean it's been tough there. Quarterbacks going
Speaker 1: after the rookie. Yeah, he's an easy target, right, you
Speaker 1: got a rookie cornerback out there that's playing press man
Speaker 1: go at him. But that goes back to what we
Speaker 1: talked about the culture change being God's not hanging their
Speaker 1: head when they make a bad play, and that's been
Speaker 1: what we've done. As soon as the bleeding starts, we
Speaker 1: don't know how to stop it, so you know, God's
Speaker 1: just continue to let things get away from them. I
Speaker 1: like the way that the defense battled last night. Things
Speaker 1: went didn't go that way, they stayed in it. They
Speaker 1: continue to try and fight. I love that leadership from
Speaker 1: our guys like Tank I loved it, from Alvin smith
Speaker 1: Um and seeing these guys vander Esh even get involved
Speaker 1: in getting a sack that was awesome to see and
Speaker 1: that was something that he needed for his own psyche
Speaker 1: coming off the collar bone and the neck and everything else.
Speaker 1: And so if they have anything to build on, and
Speaker 1: I know, look, Treyvon Diggs has to tape out there
Speaker 1: that says that he has had some bad plays, but
Speaker 1: we also have other tape that shows him being aggressive
Speaker 1: and gambling. Look when he did have a safety over
Speaker 1: the top and they tried him on that side, he
Speaker 1: broke on the ball and he was a step away. Look,
Speaker 1: almost don't count in this situation. But he's getting close
Speaker 1: to being the playmaker that we want him to be.
Speaker 1: So look, he's a rookie. We can't just put him
Speaker 1: peggy and put him in this hole and say, look,
Speaker 1: this is what you are. But we can definitely build
Speaker 1: off of the good things that he's doing. And heck,
Speaker 1: yes we can build on it. And I agree with
Speaker 1: you and a lot of things, probably by ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the things you said, but that ten percent has
Speaker 1: to do everything with the fact you said he's getting close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not close. Heck, he's not close. He will be maybe
Speaker 1: next year, maybe the year after that. This year we
Speaker 1: were sponsored by Tostitos. He's getting Tostito out there right
Speaker 1: and and this road to listen up. Man, Hey, he's
Speaker 1: not He's not close. Man, let's just be real. I
Speaker 1: love him for a lot of reasons. I love his
Speaker 1: You guys, I'll be the first one to get into it,
Speaker 1: get him, get get on his head every week. I
Speaker 1: love There's things that he has, there's attributes that he has.
Speaker 1: Is you can't teach. You can't teach right, You can't
Speaker 1: teach the grit. You can't teach us his competitiveness. You
Speaker 1: can't teach his hunger. You can't teach how aggressive he is. Right,
Speaker 1: You can't teach those things. Those are things that you
Speaker 1: have to want to do, have to want to be.
Speaker 1: You can't teach the fact that he has a short
Speaker 1: memory and when the balls in the air, he can
Speaker 1: go get it. Oh yeah, yeah, he can go get
Speaker 1: the ball. But all I'm saying is Al Harris is
Speaker 1: his coach. Al Harris used to be the dude that
Speaker 1: put his hands on you at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Why isn't he doing that? All these guys that are
Speaker 1: burning him are literally just coming off the ball, giving
Speaker 1: him a little shimmy and then taking off and gassing
Speaker 1: on him. I don't know if he's if he's that
Speaker 1: confident in his speed. Bro, this is in college. These
Speaker 1: dudes got juice. Man, these are grown men. You have
Speaker 1: to do that you face last night. It is a
Speaker 1: lot bigger than you. He's six two two fifteen and
Speaker 1: he disrespected you right number of times. These dudes can fall.
Speaker 1: These guys that are coming here this week, they're way
Speaker 1: faster than the guys that you just face, way faster.
Speaker 1: I think the Fogum didn't just do that to him.
Speaker 1: Fogum has done that to a lot of guys, a
Speaker 1: lot of guys. I'm saying the technique, the technique that
Speaker 1: you're talking about, it's just getting your head turned around.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when he had a safety at the
Speaker 1: top and he broke on the ball, that's it. And
Speaker 1: little things like that. You can take it for a
Speaker 1: rookie that we're trying to build him up and not
Speaker 1: destroy his confidence. That's what I'm talking about, Isaiah. I know,
Speaker 1: and like I said, I agree with a lot of
Speaker 1: those things. Heck, but he has to change these techniques.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, and I know, I know they're
Speaker 1: teaching him these techniques. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: why he's not applying these and taking them to the field.
Speaker 1: But he better figure it out because these, like I said,
Speaker 1: these dudes coming in here this week, these guys are
Speaker 1: they're on they're on a track team. They're on a
Speaker 1: four bar one track team, and they all got that
Speaker 1: gold juice. Yep. Well, whenever you look at some of
Speaker 1: the receivers he's going up against, and Diggs is losing
Speaker 1: those battles at the line of scrimmage, and I think
Speaker 1: that's something that comes with the cornerback position in the
Speaker 1: NFL that you just have to learn trial by fire.
Speaker 1: But he's not losing against nobodies. I mean last night
Speaker 1: he lost against Fulgham, who's turned into possibly one of
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the NFC East. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you had Terry McLaurin last week, who already is in
Speaker 1: that category. Earlier in the year, it was Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: it was DeAndre Hopkins, it was all of these different
Speaker 1: players that are top notch guys that were burning Trey
Speaker 1: Von Diggs. So listen, let me, let me make my point.
Speaker 1: Let me make my point. But if you're gonna have
Speaker 1: him as that caliber player that you need him to
Speaker 1: be as your top corner, he's gonna have to win
Speaker 1: those battles at the line of scrimmage, and he hasn't.
Speaker 1: We saw it last night on the touchdown pass to Fulgham.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He lost that at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and because of that, he had to rely on his
Speaker 1: speed to catch back up. He needs to win those battles.
Speaker 1: He hasn't so far. And until he wins those, then
Speaker 1: he's gonna get burned on occasion against some of the
Speaker 1: better receivers in the NFL. And he's gonna get a
Speaker 1: chance again this week against Juju Smith Schuster, going up
Speaker 1: against the talent that Pittsburgh brings to the table on
Speaker 1: that side of the football. But we're gonna talk more
Speaker 1: about this tomorrow. We're bringing the heat tomorrow. Bring your
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Speaker 1: today on Twitter at heck Ma Harrison. You got at
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Speaker 1: underscore Yeoman's there as well, So tweet at us, send
Speaker 1: us your questions. We'll answer him tomorrow and nine to
Speaker 1: fifty fans on the fifty and we'll also go through
Speaker 1: this defense as well. I want to know how that
Speaker 1: defensive line did. We didn't get to them today. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about him tomorrow, but that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: here for us on the Monday edition of Talking Cowboys. Guys,
Speaker 1: the sun came up this morning. Let's stay positive. We
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