WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Step Back Or Forward? 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:18.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.000 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headboards at the 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:30.440 Star in Frisco. Following the Saws got t takes and 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.960 now your hosts Isaiah stand back, heck My Harrison, Rob 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:40.120 Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's. You know, for all of those 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.800 that are listening out there, I just want to let 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.519 you know that one thank you for tuning in too. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.800 You've come to the right place because us here at 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.960 Talking Cowboys, we like to wait until Friday to really 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.960 say it with our chest and to really dig in. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.440 And sure we're angry at times, and we're upset at times, 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.600 and of course we're disappointed. But today we're gonna say 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.880 it with our chest. It's a rare edition of say 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.199 It with your Chess Monday here on Talking Cowboys. Because 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.240 the Dallas Cowboys fall in an NFC Least Battle twenty 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.640 three to nine and fall to two and six on 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.000 the twenty twenty season last night in Philadelphia at the 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.600 Lincoln Financial Field, and man, we've got a we got 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.200 a lot to talk about. Whenever it comes to the 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.319 offensive side of the football. Defense played better, but man, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.680 we've got a lot to hit there as well. Isaiah 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.840 standback our residence. Super Bowl champion Cowboys insider Rob Phillips, 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.319 the sultry voice of heck Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans again. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:42.920 Thank you smooth jazz with heck Ma Harrison. Thanks again 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.240 for joining us. And let's go ahead and get into this. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.320 Let's dissect what happened last night. Bend Nucci starting at 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.320 quarterback the seventh round, rookie out of James Madison, and 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.680 it did not go well for Denucci, the entire offense 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.520 and Rob. Things just they were pretty out of whack 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.400 from the get go on that side of the football. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.359 I don't know, and we might have lost Rob. Go 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:15.160 for it, Hackma, Why does Rob do this to me 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.679 on a sandwich in chest Monday. I know what Rob 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.360 was gonna say. The Nucci looked like a rookie cat. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.200 We retired the name Gucci the Nucci from now on. Man, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:31.720 let let let a game. Um, oh my god, man, 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.880 it's it's so it's so many things to unpack today, guys, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.639 But when it comes down to how we performed, we 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.119 loot that rookie quarterback just couldn't get this office going 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.079 at all. And we were looking for the running game. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.040 I like the wildcat as the new wrinkle to try 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.280 and get Zeke involved, but it just seemed like none 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.360 of it worked in. When we got down into the 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.320 goal line, we just couldn't punch it in. And all 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.679 of those are byproduct of having a rookie, having a 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.680 rookie quarterback. We did the best we could. I felt 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:05.200 like defensively we started off pretty bad. The running game 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.360 for the for the Eagles were just gashing us. But 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.640 then we started to shore up some of those days. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.959 And if we want to look for any bright spot, 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.600 I guess we'll we'll start talking about trey Von Diggs. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.720 But even with Diggs, it was a it was a 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.760 good and that was also a bad. But my god, man, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.640 where do you go from here? And with what you 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.400 have on the horizon? Yeah, we're gonna be talking about 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.480 a lot of other things other than what we're going 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.280 this season as Zaiah, what are your thoughts after last 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:43.680 night's loss? Terrible? Terrible and and Charles Brownie terrible? Um, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.120 it was awful, man, It was hard to watch Kyle, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.520 you and I watched it together. There's really not a 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.880 whole lot to say about this, and I wish we 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.040 could just look forward to the next week, but I 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.600 don't think we really want to do that right now. Um, 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.640 it was bad, man. I know a lot it's gonna 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.440 be placed on Denucci, and yes, he had a rough night. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.440 But I think a lot of this, and I mentioned 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.040 this last night on the post game show, a lot 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.560 of this falls on the shoulders of Keller Moore too. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.040 Keller Moore did not call a good game. He did 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.600 not set this offense up for success. Um. He whenever 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.800 there was momentum on the on our side of the ball, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.480 you know, he killed the momentum with terrible play. Call 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.279 the reverse. Oh, let's there's there was There was three 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.240 or four I know account three for sure, reverse slash 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.600 reverse passes that were in the mix. Um, I think 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.280 we had three different quarterbacks play last night. It was 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:36.960 just it was a lot, man, it was a lot. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.200 I think I think Moore was overwhelmed with the situation. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.799 He didn't handle that accordingly. De Nucci did not handle 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.280 his his opportunity well. Um, whenever he did have receivers 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.960 opened the ball, the placement was It was awful. Uh. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.840 Obviously he made some really bad decisions as well as 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.400 terms of whether to throw the ball away or not. Um, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.200 he got lucky on some players that should have been 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.560 picked off. He did not secure the ball. It was 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.120 just it was all around bad, you know what, Like 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.440 I said, But the bright spot was the defense did 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.280 play a little bit better and they were hustling. And 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:08.880 one thing I could I can't say about this entire 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.920 team is the energy was better. And I don't know 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.080 if it has I don't have to know if that 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.160 has anything to do with the fact that the guys 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.120 that they let go of, but I feel like it does. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.320 I know, when there's veterans in front of you, you 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.080 tend to kind of hold back. You don't want to 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.520 be yourself because those guys kind of setting the president 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.880 of what was our team is. But with those guys gone, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.520 you saw the energy, you saw the fire I'm in desire, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.240 but it just didn't it didn't manifest anything. Rob, are 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:36.600 you back, I'm there. I'm sorry, fellas. Okay, we're more 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.360 basically just giving her Yeah, good morning, welcome, welcome to 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.760 the show. I'm glad. I wish we were still back 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.440 in person for this this week. But since you are back, yeah, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.279 give us your thoughts on this loss and kind of 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:52.880 the generalities that you took from it last night. Well, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.800 I caught part of what Isaiah said, and you know, 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:00.960 offensively it the situation was what it was. You know, 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.520 we talked about it going into the game. Bin to Nucci, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.360 clearly he wasn't ready for this opportunity, and that's really 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.640 no fault of his own. H And I don't even 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.840 think it's really the cowboy's fault because look, you know, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.360 no preseason game reps at all, even on top of 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.600 just one week to prepare. H he. You know, they 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.640 changed some things up on him that Philly did in 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.840 terms of they didn't blitz as much, they kind of 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.920 played more coverage, and I think that threw him off. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.080 And you know, Isaiah referenced the game plan in terms 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.880 of some of the trick plays. You know, de Nucci's 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.440 situation manifested itself with that game plan, with trying to 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.240 do some some weird things to throw Philly off and 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.240 and and make things happen. And really it did, you know, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:47.080 other than CD's nineteen yard reverse run on the second 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.680 play from scrimmage. They didn't really get much out of 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.479 those plays, and you know reference I think Isaiah you 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.440 referenced the one in the third quarter where you know 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.039 you're pounding the rock. It's I think it's seven straight 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.839 runs and they're actually getting something going on the ground, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.520 and then you have a somebody missed a block on 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.760 Fletcher Cox. I believe it was ten yard loss for 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.720 Cedric Wilson, and that was you know, that was your 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.960 opportunity to get in the game. And I know fans 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.720 are gonna are upset. I'm sure you know it's a 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.440 wasted effort by the defense by far their best performance 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.360 of the season. But I do think going into this game, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.640 the situation was what it was, you know, with ben 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.200 da Nucci trying to make this thing happen, they were 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.960 going to be challenged all night. And ultimately the scorer 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.320 isn't really that surprising to me, and we kind of 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.520 talked about it all week. Was we knew the situation 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.480 going in with the quarterback and with Vinda Nucci and 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.880 the fact that the numbers are stacked against him. I 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.760 believe Cowboys rookies starters at quarterback were three and ten 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.080 now three and eleven backup since two thousand and seven 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.840 were seven and twenty two as a starter, so overall 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.600 the numbers were stacked against them no matter what. But 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.480 we also said in order to kind of combat that 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.080 got up the play calling, and I felt like they 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.560 tried to get creative with play calling, but it wasn't 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.680 necessarily anything that worked. It didn't work, and then you 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.679 kept going back to it and it didn't work again, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.360 and he went back to it again and it was 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.760 the same result. It was a little frustrating to see 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.000 the thought process going on there, but not going away 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.679 and making adjustments mid game. That's something that I really 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.840 didn't like, Isaiah. Whenever it came to the play calling 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.400 that was out on the field, it didn't help your 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:30.840 guys out of a whole lot. No, And you're absolutely correct. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.480 And the thing that you want to do whenever you 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.199 have a young quarterback or somebody that's just trying to 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.000 simply get established with some confidence, is you want to 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.400 give him a limited amount of plays, right, And we 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.079 always heard about how everybody needs how they needed to 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.560 dumb down the playbook for him. I feel like you 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.160 could have gave him now the typical play call sheet. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.240 Let me just help everybody understand it. She's usually about 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.720 two hundred to three hundred calls on a play on 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.200 a play call sheet. So when you got to see 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.720 the coach over there with his little with his little whatever, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.280 little classic piece of paper. Um, I can I think 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.160 of the name, it was laminated lamind thank you very much, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.400 laminated paper. Um, that's about it's about. There's usually about 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.480 three hundred calls on that, depending on the coach, right, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.640 depending on how how how how deep they want to 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.760 go into their their offense. But I feel like they 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.440 should have probably dumbed that down to probably around seventy 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.720 five plays for him, um and taking those plays right 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.920 and then totally just change the formation, change the personnel. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.560 It's something we used to do in New England all 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.400 the time. Are we had a very extensive offense, but 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.280 a lot of the times we're going to going to 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.600 a game a week and we would simply just take 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.400 about twenty plays and we would just run those same 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.640 plays over and over and over again. It but we 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.840 were running from different personnel and running from different formations. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.320 We run from different motions to get to get to 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.320 those positions. That way, he's not overthinking things. But it 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.400 looks totally different to the defense. So there's a way 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.080 of going about it. And I think that I think more. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:53.960 I think this is a test for him. As much 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.439 as this was a rookie stepping up into this position, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.680 I think, you know, Kellen Moore, this was his his 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.320 rookie showing in terms of how to handle a handle 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.600 on somebody in this situation. Yeah, Isaiah, And it looked 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.280 like Swartz. It looked like Schwartz had an easy game 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.719 plan for the Nuccie that confused him. That came at 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.400 points in the game where you could tell the rookie 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.400 was struggling. He was seeing fifteen dbs back there, he 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.000 couldn't find any spaces at times where the offensive line 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.520 actually gave him the time to throw. But you know, 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.280 when you're going into a game like this, and we 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.400 talked about the pitch count and saying that, look, man, 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.160 if we got to the point where the Nucci through 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.200 the ball forty times, we were in trouble. Look at 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.200 the statue through the ball ball forty times. But the 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.200 worst quarterback in this game wasn't being the Nucci, it 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.400 was the other guy. So I mean, if you want 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.320 to just place your hat on anything. We didn't do 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.640 ourselves any favors in this game to win it. But 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.280 Philly is terrible as well, all right, and so they 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.160 got by and it wasn't we couldn't overcome some of 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.920 our mistakes for our rookie quarterback. But look, man, Philly 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.680 isn't going anywhere fast and based off of their schedule 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.960 and what they have coming up, if we can just 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.199 get some things correct, and I can't even believe I'm 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.520 saying this, Yeah, well we gotta get Well that's the thing, man. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.800 The Philly is terrible. They're bad, all right, and you 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.839 could tell. But the way that wins is holding on 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.280 to the ball. Look, man, it's not gonna get any better. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.640 And if we just had a little bit at quarterback, 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.719 that was a game for our for us to win. Yeah, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.360 I mean, WinCE Wentz made three more throws than the 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.200 Nucci did, as as much as the Nucci struggled in 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:33.720 that game. I mean he had the touchdown pass and 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.640 a couple of the throws and other than that, you know, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.000 I know it was it looked windy, looked really windy, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.520 but there was he was just throwing balls up for grabs. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.880 You know, the accuracy for Wentz has been a problem 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:47.080 all year long. But um, you know, to piggyback on 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.079 what Isaiah said, I mean with the Nucci, I think 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:52.839 the play calling could have helped. I think they should 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.559 have stuck to the run, especially in the second half 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.600 when it was working. But I just feel like he 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.680 just was in a He was over matched in this game. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.640 I mean early on you could tell he was. He 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.920 held the ball too long on that first bumble, he 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.600 was processing things too slowly. The best thing they had 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.120 going offensively was those little short flares, those short screens 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.120 to the top receivers and let those guys work, let them, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.520 let them work in space. But anytime they tried to 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.360 go down the field, I mean, it was an adventure 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.000 because you thought it was gonna get picked off. Yeah, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.839 it was something that made you nervous. He gave you 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.200 the bubble guts whenever you saw him step back and 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.679 actually try and throw one, because you didn't know how 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.920 long it was going to take until that pocket collapsed, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.200 and then you had to see his escapability. I thought 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.920 Ben Nannucci did a nice job running the ball last night, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.680 and I think he used his legs on a couple 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.640 of occasions. Now, whenever it comes to the offensive line, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.760 and we talked about protecting him, what did we think 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.160 about the offensive line, because going back and watching it, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.679 I thought Tyler Beatis maybe had his best game at center. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.600 Zach Martin absolutely helped. But man, we've got a problem 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:59.800 on the right side of that offensive line. HECMA, yes, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.360 we do, and we gotta figure out what Terace Steele 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.040 has on the coaching staff for him to continue to 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.280 line up at right tackle. This first half was horrible. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.520 I think he got better as the game went alone. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.400 They got him some help, but man, on that offensive line, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.520 he is the one guy that you can point to this. Look, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.720 we have some leakage on that side, but you're right, Kyle, 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.559 be honest. They showed it in also having Zach Martin 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.400 back as well did a really good These guys did 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.680 a really good job up front. The protection was there 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.400 in some circumstances, but you have to look at the 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.559 situation and Benny Knuti was just holding onto the ball 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.960 way too long, and on that one play where he 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.960 had Fletcher Cox coming right at him, I'm just screaming 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.040 at my television. Throw the ball being and It's a 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.840 couple of times where it's like, man, you have to 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.520 recognize ninety one coming at you, and it's just then 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.200 the recognition wasn't there. You couldn't recognize ninety one coming 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:59.200 at you. He obviously, he obviously could not recognize ninety 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.840 one coming up. Wasn't Delaware's defensive end coming back down 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.200 at you. That wasn't that. That wasn't Stony Brooks coming 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.960 at you. There, that was flex your cox, Hey, brow 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.120 the ball, Brow the ball, get it out of your hands. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.200 I wanted to ask Isaiah this because he was in 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.280 studio last night. I didn't get a chance to talk 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.880 to him. But from a quarterback's perspective, was he just 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.000 was he just seeing like Heck said just fifteen guys. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.040 Was it was everything just going too fast for him? 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.760 Because it seemed like maybe it's settled down a little 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.560 bit in the second half, but early on it was 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.160 just like I he just there's too much going on 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.480 for him. I think, yeah, No, I think I mentioned 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.760 this to Kyle and Nate and studio. In the first 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.800 quarter when Ben don you dropped back, I think I 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.920 think it was like a third down play and you 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.920 could see how he wasn't looking downfield. His eyes were 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.640 not downfield. He was concerned with the rush. And at 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.240 the time that he was doing that, there was only 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.680 four guys rushing. Well, I'm sorry, Ben, those are gonna 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.640 be the same four guys coming at you all game long, changing, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.920 you know. But I've been there before when I was 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.720 when I was a young quarterback in college. You know, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.920 you get caught up looking at the rush. You're so 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.560 concerned about about getting sacked that you that you now 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.000 can't focus on doing your job, which is making sure 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.560 that you deliver the ball down the field. Um. And 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.160 you know in throwing downs and it's a lot, man, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.360 it takes a lot of reputation. Um, it's gonna take 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.720 him a while, and we don't have a while. Unfortunately, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.200 hopefully any dog can get back and get some form 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.680 of stability going forward. Um, but he's young, man. It sucks. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.280 It's that's a sucky situation. I think he I think 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.440 he failed in his in his h in his rookie start. Um. 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.760 I think you know, like I said, Kelling Moore, he 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.800 was a rookie in this in this particular situation, and 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.320 he failed as well. Hey, what about the side on right, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.160 that was terrible. Man. I don't he came pulling that 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:49.720 out too on the sideline. That's a question, Kyle. We 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.840 were in training camp and he didn't get a ton 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.840 of reps. But I know he kind of throws like that. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.400 But the one by the sideline, like I don't remember 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.880 him doing the white earb things. Oh where it's like 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.440 a complete side arm. That was new because I feel 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.760 like whenever he pulled it out, the first thought I had, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.280 and you can I can guarantee Nate and Isaiah remember 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.840 me doing this. I jumped up, I had some ribs 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.360 on my plate and I put it on the ground 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.200 and I said, listen here, that was a baseball throw. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.800 And I mean he was basically like a like a 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.960 short stop coming around and throwing sidearm off balance. It's like, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.720 that's hard to do one, but two, that's such a 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.680 low accurately play. I don't know what he's thinking. They're 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:33.200 trying to make something. Everybody, everybody on this everybody on 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.720 the sideline just watched the ball go by, like what 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.320 was that? They said, Yeah, I love that brand. But 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.080 you just that's what you do. Man. When you're in 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.400 that situation, you're trying to You're trying to find something, right, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.240 You're trying to find something positive, man, because he knows 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.800 I can't sit in the pocket. Whenever I do get 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.960 out of the pocket, guys are covered up, so I 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.880 don't want to run out of bounds, right, because that's 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.480 kind of weak of me to run out of bounds. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.600 So they me trying to force something without getting an interception. 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.600 So I has to be a low percentage throw because 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.120 I don't want it to be a high percentage interception ratio. Right. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.359 It's just it's just bad, man. It's just it was 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.240 all around not good. And we talked about it. I 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.400 think I mentioned it on the show on Friday. Out 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.919 there from Tostitos, it was about talking about how my 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.280 biggest fear is about him holding the ball, right, It 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.399 was about him holding the ball because he's gonna have 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.320 to wait. In his mind, he needs to wait till 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.119 these guys are all the way open, because it's in 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.120 his head. Don't throw a pick. Don't throw a pick. Well, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.639 you didn't throw a pick, so that's good. But you 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.879 just happened to fumbel the ball because these guys are 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.600 coming after you. You're holding onto it too long. So 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.280 that was one of my biggest concerns in and we 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.199 saw that come back to bite him. I feel for 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.040 him because I asked him after the game about the 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.760 speed of the game, and he said that all week 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.720 in his mind, he kept tell himself, I gotta play fast. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.480 I gotta play fast. I gotta play fast. But I 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.200 don't know, you know, I don't know if you means yeah. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.720 I don't know if you feel the speed of it 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.760 until you're actually out there waiting with live reps. Well, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.800 and I'm glad you guys brought up the side arm 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.800 conversation because there were a couple of drops in there 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.639 as well from good throws from Ben Denucci, but it 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.440 were dropped at a certain point. 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Glad you're with us, Rob Phillips, isaiahs Dan 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.439 backhack My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and I tease this 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.200 going into the break as we continue our breakdown of 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.920 the eagles twenty three to nine win over the Cowboys. 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.159 Cowboys out at two and six and doesn't get easier 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.399 on the horizon. Pittsburgh Steelers only undefeated team in the 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.600 NFL on the horizon this weekend on the docket coming 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.720 to AT and T Stadium. Now I tease this, like 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.440 I said, but would Andy Dalton have one last night's game? 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.879 I mean, we look at the stats from Benda Nucci 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.639 twenty one to forty one hundred and eighty yards, no 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.120 touch downs, no interceptions, didn't really get close at any 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.359 point of either one of those. Couldn't finish drives. The 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.800 Cowboys were in, had an opportunity twice to get in 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.000 this football game, especially at the end of the game. 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.000 They went with it, went forward on fourth and two, 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.560 didn't get it. You look at maybe kicking a field 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.840 goal there. You should have it tied at fifteen at 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.080 later in the game because of where the football was. 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.480 But I mean, put all that in the rearview mirror. 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.040 I asked the question, Rob Dalton, does he get a 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:34.639 w last night because of the situation of that football game. Yes, 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:39.240 I think if they had just kind of average quarterback 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.119 play last night, they win the game because of what 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.359 the defense was able to do. Just to really if 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.040 they just had completed a few more throws. And I 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.199 think maybe with Dalton they would have had more of 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.639 that traditional game plan because because of the experience, and 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.240 they wouldn't have had to try some of those plays 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.439 at Kellamore tried that didn't work. Now, the protections another 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.840 facet of it. And obviously with pressure pressuring Dalton, that's 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.679 been a problem when we've seen him in games. And 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.800 I'm sorry Coin took you away from the offensive line 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.080 in the first segment. I thought what encourages me is 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.720 the run blocking that they were able to get going 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.520 with Zach back in the game, that that is something 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.920 to build on going forward, and that gives me some 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.600 some encouragement with with Andy if he comes back this week, 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.480 as early as this week, that they can establish some 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.439 of that balance and keep some of that balance with 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.440 Zeke and with Tony Pollard, and you know, we'll see 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.720 what happens. I know, I know Heck brought up do 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.199 they need to do something at right tackle? Yeah, I 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.399 mean we've been talking about that for a while. I 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.920 still feel that way, you know, I don't know. I 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.760 know Mike McCarthy doesn't want to switch out two spots, 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.240 but I'm looking at this matchup coming up with Bud 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.080 Dupree and t J. Watt and maybe you want to 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.600 shore up that right side. But but yeah, I think 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.040 I think with a couple more plays, I think with 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.080 a couple more plays from Dalton, they would have won 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.160 this game. And that's not again, that's not a knock 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.240 on the Nutsie. I think he was put in. It's 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.800 a tough situation, a really bad situation for a young 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.480 player trying to come and win that game last night 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.919 instead of playing I think, because I think instead of 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.480 playing coverage swards, then blitz is more and maybe that's 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:19.159 that's a whole different defensive game playing if Andy Dalton 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.240 is the starter a quarterback, but maybe game management wise, 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.840 Andy Dalton would have given you a lot more. Uh. 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.919 It's really hard to articulate any of that after a 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.440 game where offensively we just couldn't get anything going, or 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.640 especially in the red zone where we had a couple 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.840 opportunities to strike and only came away with three points. 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:43.239 So look, it's I'm gonna say yes, and especially if 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:45.639 you ask me if if Dak was starting, yeah, we 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.120 win that game. I don't agree with that. If Dak 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:57.960 is playing Isaiah's gonna just like no. Yeah, I like 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.600 to think so. I like to think so. Um. And 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.639 it mainly because of the point that Rob brought up, 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:05.520 because I was thinking about it just you know, swapping 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.119 out the quarterbacks and what that would present. But you know, 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.480 you have to take to account that Kelly Morris would 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.040 not have been called on half the bs that he 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.400 was calling yesterday. And if they and if that's the case, 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.200 and I think they do put themselves in a position 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.719 to win the game, um, because I think that they 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.840 probably would have stick stuck with the traditional running more 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.719 than all the craziness. Uh. So I think I think 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.800 they probably win the game. I'm I say that with 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.240 hesitation because of the lack the lackluster effort at the 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.360 office on line put forth whenever they did have any 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.080 Dolton um, you know, last week. And if they if 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.040 that's an indication of what's to come, um, in terms 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.600 of their effort based upon that particular quarterback, then we 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.640 have we got we still have woes and worries, um. 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.000 But if they gave the effort that they gave last 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.280 night with a different scheme, yes they win the game. 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.760 That was another encouraging thing We can talk about the 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.359 turnovers on defense, but the team came out with a 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.440 little bit of an energy. They came out. I thought 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.400 it was the first time, really all year we saw 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.240 a bit of swagger. And I said that initially on 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.600 the postgame show as well. Was we finally saw some swagger, 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:12.480 we saw the energy. I don't know what flipped the 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.440 switch in that regard, and maybe the early players helped 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.400 to continue that at least until halftime, But then after 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.280 halftime things kind of fell apart and it went back 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.040 to normal. But where does that energy come from from 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.960 a Cowboys perspective? Is it playing for a rookie quarterback, 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.879 knowing you had to do your job and just playing 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:33.600 relentlessly as opposed to playing conservatively and sorry for yourself. 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.280 I really think it has a lot to do with 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.919 the with the veterans being removed, and I think I 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:43.679 was talking to Nate about this last night. When you 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.520 have some some older veteran guys on the team, you 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.639 look to them as a young guy, you look to 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.399 them to set the culture, You look at them to 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.359 set the tempo. You don't want to kind of overstep 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.560 your boundaries, right because you're you're you're lower on a 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.200 totem poles, so you kind of play your position in 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.480 your spot. And you know, even when those guys aren't 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.320 doing what they should be doing, you still kind of 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.720 staying you in your spot because you're still second fiddle. 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.159 Right as soon as those guys are removed. As soon 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.080 as you remove those guys, now what, oh shoot, we 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:14.960 could turn up. You know what I'm saying, We could 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.960 turn up. Let's go. I don't have anybody that I 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.880 don't have big brother that's gonna say, hey, chill out, 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.639 a little homie. I don't have that, right, So now 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:21.960 I can go out there and I can play free. 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.600 And you saw those guys coming out and they're having 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.760 fun and they're getting geeked and they're juiced up, and 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:27.760 that's what this team needs. And it was very It 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.920 was awesome to see. Um. We just need to see 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.199 it turn into more positive plays. There were some positive 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.439 players last night, and the defense did play better and 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.040 I think a lot of that came from that energy. 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.840 So I think it's just the young guys being allowed 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.480 to be young guys without having to worry about big 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.320 brother looking over their shoulder. Yeah, we got a lot 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.240 more we got a lot more from guys that we've 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.200 been calling their name tank. We had a tank siding. 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.760 So for all the Tank haters, let's let's talk about 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:57.080 the job the tank did last night. And also Randy Gregory. Gregory, 0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:01.720 they that won what was it the Yeah, the rough 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.520 in the passer? Yeah, yeah, that was a horrible call, 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.679 but I think we got an interception based off of that. 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.800 But either way, you saw a lot more energy and 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.879 whether that was from guys getting the axe of getting 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.560 their bus tickets out of town, whatever that was, you 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.320 saw the defense definitely came into the game with a 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.360 different approach and I love seeing it. But just from 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.760 the front line standpoint, you're just not seeing as many 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.240 guys get blown off the ball. But I said this before, 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.320 even with getting rid of number ninety five, you may 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.720 realize that you have a few other guys on your 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.520 defensive line that are still presenting problems for your scheme 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.120 that you're playing. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.000 they Boston Scott. I was worried about him all week, 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.679 and I think he had forty something yards on the 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.760 first two drives rushing and he wound up with like 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.240 fifty two. They just hex right. They did a better 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.919 job shoring things up with the run defense. But I 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:56.160 mean when take Lawrence says after last game, we need 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.840 more fight, we need more backbone, and he's a captain, 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.800 a leader, and he steps up with a sack on 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.200 the second play of the game. And we talked about 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.040 the defense needing a spark that set the tone, and 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.840 then we talked about needing takeaway, something to spark this defense. 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.960 Donovan Wilson comes up with takeaway right up the bat, 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.119 and I think they kind of set set the tone 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.199 and got themselves feeling good about themselves. And I think 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.800 they made some adjustments in the run defense if they're 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.359 going to continue this, and that's it was. It was 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.320 a really good performance. It's something to build on. They 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.040 have to be more. They have to find a way 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.040 to carry this over though, and if they're gonna do it, 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.280 they've got to be able to continue being sound against 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.400 the run against James Connor this week, against everybody else 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.800 going forward. But I thought that first drive just kind 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.080 of set the tone and got them feeling good about 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.720 themselves for once. But pick backing off of that, rob 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.120 whenever you make those plays on defense and you come 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.560 out with that energy and that fire, that desire, and 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.440 then you give the ball back to your offense and 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.600 they go wow wow right, like it literally it takes 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.880 it out of you, man, instead of those guys being 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:59.080 excited about the next opportunity, right, instead of being excited 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.600 about the next opportuneportunity because guess what, we went out there, 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.640 we got sacks, we got a strip sack whatever it is, 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.280 and we and we get the ball right back to 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:06.720 our office and they go out there and they score 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.560 a touchdown. Okay, cool, we got a great relationship going, right. 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.120 This is a relationship. Now, this is not one sided. 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.280 Nobody likes being in a relationship where you're always the 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.760 one giving, right, So that's what this is. Can't turn 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.960 into that because then you have resentment, and then you 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.680 have guys starting to take plays off, and then you 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.920 get guys starting to just collect checks. And we've already 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.880 seen that already happen. Oh, you're absolutely right. I do 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.040 think this game was a little different in that I 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.320 think everybody knows what Ben was up against this game, 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.040 and so you know, maybe now with Andy coming back, 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.200 maybe this week it's a different story. Because like you said, 0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.280 I mean ten you're vet. You're expecting a guy that's 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.400 going to move the offense consistently. That's what you brought 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.320 him in for. But yeah, with Ben, I mean, like 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.080 I said, it was what it was, you know, trying 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.160 trying to get trying to get him going, trying to 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:55.080 help him out, and whenever you talk about the energy, 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.680 I mean, it finally looked like a team that was 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.280 tired to get and pushed around. And maybe it was 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.480 a rivalry game, maybe it was because it was primetime, 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.880 but even in previous rivalry games or even primetime games, 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.800 we had seen them get pushed around and kind of 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.960 embarrassed on national television. I don't think they got embarrassed 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.760 last night. I thought that was a game they had 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.320 a chance to win. Of course, they led at halftime. 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.600 They had a chance later on to maybe tie the 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.640 game if they would have had had the drive to 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.080 put it together or take the lead if you had 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.560 that drive. But like you said, Isaiah, it really was 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:29.840 deflating to have the offense performed the way they did. Now. 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.320 I mentioned this earlier, but there was also some deflating plays, 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.920 specifically from your whiteouts, and you need every single reception 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.480 in a game like this. You need Michael Gallup to 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.320 make a grab. You need Amari Cooper and Ceedee Lamb 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.280 to make the catches that are in their chests. And 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.880 they were on multiple occasions off of a sidearm throw 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.400 from Ben de Nucci that the ball ended up hitting 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.400 off their chest and falling to the turf. What goes 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.400 into that as a wide receiver, and it's something that 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.880 I think shouldn't be that big of a difference. But 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:01.560 is it that big of a difference seeing it come 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:06.040 out of the side arm delivery? Well, you gotta get 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.160 over the shock of what the heck is going on. 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.280 I'm pretty sure there's no let me before I say that. 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.160 There's no excuse. Okay, the old school rule, if it 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.800 touches your hands or touches your chest, you gotta bring 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.960 you gotta catch it, right, So no excuse, don't let me, 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.320 don't let me. I don't want anybody to be misinterpret 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:26.040 what I'm saying. But on a hilarious note, what the 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.480 heck like when you when you watch them a ball 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.640 come out like that, they probably turned their head. You 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.760 ever call a dog's name or you ever done something 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:37.360 to a dog and a dog like that's probably I 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.640 assume that's probably what those guys did when he pulled. 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.720 When he threw that thing side on there is that 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.440 and then they say, you know, you heard him say 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.400 all week, the ball gets up on you quick, right, 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.880 So I'm assuming that's what happened. They probably had a 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.080 little little dog moment and little ears perked up, and 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.640 then the ball kept crept up on him. But I mean, 0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.880 they gotta make plays, man, There's there's no excuse. They 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.400 have to catch the ball. You know, Denucci has to 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.120 do better. I mean, to your point, Kyle, you when 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:04.720 the ball comes your way, you gotta catch your rocket, 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.400 especially when you're in these situations. Man. But I'm pretty 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.440 sure they were surprised as some of the styles that 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:17.000 he that he utilized. We compared him to a little motion. Yeah, 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.400 we compared him to a couple of different quarterbacks who 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.880 have thrown that way prior, but definitely not the same 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:23.720 result as some of the names that we threw out 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.880 there last night. Now, when we come back, I want 0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.760 to go to the defensive side of the football. 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If anything, you get 0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.680 a chance to see the only remaining undefeated team in 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.040 the NFL. That's always kind of cool having them come 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:15.600 to town. We've got heck, my Harrison, we've got it. Well, 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.040 I'm just I don't have a I don't have a 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:22.319 ticket's read, so I gotta say something about special tickets. Uh, 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:26.040 Rob Phillips, isaiahs dan Back, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and uh. 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.600 We talked about the defense four turnovers, which is one 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.560 more turnover than they had the previous seven games of 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.880 the season combined. So you get the turnovers. You finally 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.319 get that spark. Rob mentioned it earlier. You had to 0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:41.400 play from Donovan Wilson early on that that jarred the 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.680 ball free from Carson Wins. He fumbled it again later 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.560 on in the game, and then he also threw a 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.840 pair of picks, both to mister Trayvon Diggs, our second 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.640 round rookie out of Alabama. But Rob, whenever you look 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:57.359 at this defense and you finally get those turnovers. Was 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.880 it they had a better game or was it just 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:07.799 this Eagles team was pretty terrible on their own? Right? Um? Yeah, 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.359 I mean I think he is. It's all in perspective, right, 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.319 But I think I think as as bad as the 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.880 defense is played for stretches and really for the entire season, 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.320 with giving up a historic amount of yards and points, 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.680 I think you're looking for You're looking for progress. You're 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.120 looking for progress no matter who you're playing. Good point. 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:26.680 I think we got it. I think we saw it. 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.839 I thought they I think the best thing they did 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.200 was was, like Isaiah mentioned was and Heck mentioned was 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.400 the energy level uh and and continuing to kind of 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.320 play for each other and uh and and be a 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.080 little bit more assignment sound in the run game. I 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.840 think there were steps made there. Um. My question is 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.520 for you guys is with Treyvon Diggs, like I he 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.440 had the two picks, Uh, where do you guys feel 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.840 about where he's at in his rookie year because teams 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.560 are still going after him. I like how he bounced 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.480 his back and he doesn't let it seem to phase him. 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.440 But I hope, I hope that part of it can 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.920 get he can clean some of that technique up or 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.440 whatever it is that's a that's preventing him from u 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.239 you know, stopping some of these big plays that they're 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.440 trying to get some downfield. Yeah, he's pretty good at 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.960 his short term memory is pretty good. But then they 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.600 continue to come after him. And he's a rookie, and 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.640 you've heard those whispers about possibly benching him and letting 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.960 some of the veteran guys go ahead so he can 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.279 watch them and not be isolated in a situation where 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.040 it feels like a trial by fire. But that's just 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.280 who he is. And I love what Shaun Lee said 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.080 about the rookie that he makes some great plays. If 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.560 he makes a bad play, he's the kind of player 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.600 that doesn't process the bad stuff. He wants to come 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.640 back and continue to stay competitive. I like that. I mean, 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.320 just like we talk about Bend Nutie being a quarterback, 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.040 a rookie quarterback, we have to realize that we have 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.640 a rookie cornerback that's getting everything thrown at him. And 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:04.160 he had contest last night versus the guy from Fogum 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.640 and Man. That was a battle and at times looked 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.280 like he was getting the best of him. But getting 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.040 those two pigs, man, that's gotta be good for his psyche, 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.040 But he has other things that he has to clean 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:21.319 up in his game as well. Cold on this coming 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.120 to me, Oh, I'm letting it come to you. Okay, 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.120 how about this here? Let me preface it real quickly 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.120 because one of the biggest, one of the biggest knocks 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.080 on treyvon Dix's game coming out of Alabama was the 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.799 fact that he relied on his speed a little bit 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.680 too much to the fact where his fundamentals weren't necessarily there. Now, 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.000 this is once again a guy who switched from receiver 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.319 to play cornerback his junior year at Alabama. So he's 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.880 only been a corner for two and a half seasons 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.440 really at this point, and even some of that he 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.440 was hurt for a good amount of time. So really 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.040 less than two seasons he's had in terms of seasoning 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.880 at the cornerback position. So keep that in mind when 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.840 you're looking at this guy. He's gonna make plays, but 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.719 he's also going to give him up at the same time. 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.440 And we saw that last night. Isaiah. I feel like 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.359 you're about to go into this, but you saw the 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.840 dig's name on the back of the jersey with the 0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.080 two in the seven there a little bit more than 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.400 you would definitely like, is that what it said on 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:19.680 the back? Yes, I appreciate the information on his his 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.120 lack of experience. I mean that's definitely helpful. As my 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:26.520 criticism of him, I'll hold back a little bit. It's 0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.200 a little bit, but you don't have to hold back 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.480 at all. I just wanted to give some context. No, 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.839 come on, this is where you know, I's Monday. Let's 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:41.399 go the digs. His two interceptions, he did those right, 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:47.319 credit awesome U terrible plays by wins terrible. One of 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.600 them was an awful, awful ball on a deep post 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.440 that was I don't even know what that was. So 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.120 that was a give me that he might as well 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.040 have been back there by himself. But Brendan, you know, man, 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.360 one of I don't know it should have been, Yeah, exactly, 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:01.640 I don't know what that was. So that's that's it. 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.719 Give me um. Then you have a great catch um 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:06.560 in the end zone. Right, a great catch by him. 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.960 But what was Wentz doing in terms of throwing the 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.960 ball away? Right? That was a throwaway ball that just 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.200 didn't get thrown away. All the way out of the 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.279 field of play. So two terrible plays that I give him. 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.319 He has credit for him, but I don't really give 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.759 him credit for it. Um. There's a lot of other 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.520 players in there where he was playing, where he was 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.440 playing aggressive, and I and I and I and I 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.719 do I do like I do like how tenacious he 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:30.239 is here he does. He does fight. He has some 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.200 fighting him, he has some dogging him. And that's more 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:33.839 that we can say about a lot of guys on 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:35.600 this team. And I respect the crap out of him 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.759 front of that, UM, but he you can see his inexperience. 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.520 You can see his inexperience. Every team we've played has 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:46.040 torched him. Every every ever reach at least once or 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.520 at least right. So he's getting torched. And we talked 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.600 about this during the week. Rob what I say, I said, 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.000 don't let him play man to man. Don't do it. 0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.879 Stop putting him in these situations. He can't do it. 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.120 He keeps walking up there like he wants to put 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:03.920 his hands on somebody, and then guess what, he doesn't 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.799 put his hands on them. He sits up there. He 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.239 tries to shadow them. Right when I say shadow them, 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.879 it's literally like he's in front of them and he's 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.120 trying to make a mirror what they're doing at the 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.799 release point, off the line of scrimmage, and then they 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.600 just simply say, oh, he's not gonna touch me, show them, 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.680 and they just run by him. Right And we saw 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.920 it last night, Yeah, we saw it last night, and 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.960 where it happened multiple times again where guys are just 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.680 running by him and it's just bad man. At a 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.000 certain point, you got to stop with that technique. If 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.000 you're a big dude, you're a big corner, get up 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.479 there and put your hands on him. If you're afraid 0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.600 of getting beat guess what they're beating you anyways, So 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.000 you might as well go up there and see what 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.480 it looks like when you try to put your hands 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.759 on somebody. Use your size, use your length, and then 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:44.800 go up there and continue to beat to nations. Continue 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:46.359 to be a pest, because that's what you are. You're 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.279 a pest. That's what you want to be as as 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.239 a cornerback in this league. You have a lot of 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:54.360 great attributes, but playing off coverage, off man, press coverage, 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.239 whatever you want to call it, that's not working to 0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.719 your advantage. I'll figure something else out. I will say 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.640 the way he battles, and you're right. I mean he's 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.319 given up a lot of big plays and he's not 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.920 the only one this year. But the way he battles 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.360 is what Mike McCarthy's looking for, what Mike Goland's looking for. 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.239 Just continuing to fight, continuing to hang in there. And 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.040 I think I think they think he's gonna be better 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:17.959 for it. I knew too, but yeah, I mean it's 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.439 it's it's it's been a it's been a tough year 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.319 for him. I mean it's been tough there. Quarterbacks going 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:27.920 after the rookie. Yeah, he's an easy target, right, you 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.799 got a rookie cornerback out there that's playing press man 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.200 go at him. But that goes back to what we 0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.520 talked about the culture change being God's not hanging their 0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.399 head when they make a bad play, and that's been 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.880 what we've done. As soon as the bleeding starts, we 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.160 don't know how to stop it, so you know, God's 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.120 just continue to let things get away from them. I 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.879 like the way that the defense battled last night. Things 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:52.279 went didn't go that way, they stayed in it. They 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.200 continue to try and fight. I love that leadership from 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.760 our guys like Tank I loved it, from Alvin smith 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:02.120 Um and seeing these guys vander Esh even get involved 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.200 in getting a sack that was awesome to see and 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.880 that was something that he needed for his own psyche 0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.959 coming off the collar bone and the neck and everything else. 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.279 And so if they have anything to build on, and 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.960 I know, look, Treyvon Diggs has to tape out there 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.480 that says that he has had some bad plays, but 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.400 we also have other tape that shows him being aggressive 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.640 and gambling. Look when he did have a safety over 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.319 the top and they tried him on that side, he 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.920 broke on the ball and he was a step away. Look, 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.480 almost don't count in this situation. But he's getting close 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.640 to being the playmaker that we want him to be. 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.319 So look, he's a rookie. We can't just put him 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:39.960 peggy and put him in this hole and say, look, 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.400 this is what you are. But we can definitely build 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.240 off of the good things that he's doing. And heck, 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.200 yes we can build on it. And I agree with 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:48.879 you and a lot of things, probably by ninety percent 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.440 of the things you said, but that ten percent has 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.680 to do everything with the fact you said he's getting close. Yeah, 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.879 not close. Heck, he's not close. He will be maybe 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.759 next year, maybe the year after that. This year we 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.040 were sponsored by Tostitos. He's getting Tostito out there right 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:08.279 and and this road to listen up. Man, Hey, he's 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.360 not He's not close. Man, let's just be real. I 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:13.920 love him for a lot of reasons. I love his 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:15.719 You guys, I'll be the first one to get into it, 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.680 get him, get get on his head every week. I 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.000 love There's things that he has, there's attributes that he has. 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.080 Is you can't teach. You can't teach right, You can't 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.000 teach the grit. You can't teach us his competitiveness. You 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.960 can't teach his hunger. You can't teach how aggressive he is. Right, 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.960 You can't teach those things. Those are things that you 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:32.560 have to want to do, have to want to be. 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.080 You can't teach the fact that he has a short 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.239 memory and when the balls in the air, he can 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.759 go get it. Oh yeah, yeah, he can go get 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.920 the ball. But all I'm saying is Al Harris is 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.600 his coach. Al Harris used to be the dude that 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.760 put his hands on you at the line of scrimmage. 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.960 Why isn't he doing that? All these guys that are 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.560 burning him are literally just coming off the ball, giving 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:54.800 him a little shimmy and then taking off and gassing 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.400 on him. I don't know if he's if he's that 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.319 confident in his speed. Bro, this is in college. These 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.880 dudes got juice. Man, these are grown men. You have 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:03.320 to do that you face last night. It is a 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.560 lot bigger than you. He's six two two fifteen and 0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.080 he disrespected you right number of times. These dudes can fall. 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.520 These guys that are coming here this week, they're way 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.840 faster than the guys that you just face, way faster. 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.279 I think the Fogum didn't just do that to him. 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.200 Fogum has done that to a lot of guys, a 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.200 lot of guys. I'm saying the technique, the technique that 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.600 you're talking about, it's just getting your head turned around. 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:27.640 I'm talking about when he had a safety at the 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:29.799 top and he broke on the ball, that's it. And 0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:31.759 little things like that. You can take it for a 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:33.960 rookie that we're trying to build him up and not 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.840 destroy his confidence. That's what I'm talking about, Isaiah. I know, 0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:39.640 and like I said, I agree with a lot of 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.320 those things. Heck, but he has to change these techniques. 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.239 And I don't know, and I know, I know they're 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.719 teaching him these techniques. I don't know what's going on 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.960 why he's not applying these and taking them to the field. 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.399 But he better figure it out because these, like I said, 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.920 these dudes coming in here this week, these guys are 0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:56.400 they're on they're on a track team. They're on a 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.160 four bar one track team, and they all got that 0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.520 gold juice. Yep. Well, whenever you look at some of 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.040 the receivers he's going up against, and Diggs is losing 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.719 those battles at the line of scrimmage, and I think 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.160 that's something that comes with the cornerback position in the 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.960 NFL that you just have to learn trial by fire. 0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.520 But he's not losing against nobodies. I mean last night 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.320 he lost against Fulgham, who's turned into possibly one of 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.600 the best receivers in the NFC East. All of a sudden, 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.560 you had Terry McLaurin last week, who already is in 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.280 that category. Earlier in the year, it was Julio Jones, 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.920 it was DeAndre Hopkins, it was all of these different 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.839 players that are top notch guys that were burning Trey 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:36.759 Von Diggs. So listen, let me, let me make my point. 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.920 Let me make my point. But if you're gonna have 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.880 him as that caliber player that you need him to 0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.279 be as your top corner, he's gonna have to win 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.720 those battles at the line of scrimmage, and he hasn't. 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.720 We saw it last night on the touchdown pass to Fulgham. 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.840 He didn't. He lost that at the line of scrimmage 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.239 and because of that, he had to rely on his 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.360 speed to catch back up. He needs to win those battles. 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.480 He hasn't so far. And until he wins those, then 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.480 he's gonna get burned on occasion against some of the 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.239 better receivers in the NFL. And he's gonna get a 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.239 chance again this week against Juju Smith Schuster, going up 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.960 against the talent that Pittsburgh brings to the table on 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.200 that side of the football. But we're gonna talk more 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.719 about this tomorrow. We're bringing the heat tomorrow. Bring your 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.879 fans on the fifty questions, Send them in all day 0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.280 today on Twitter at heck Ma Harrison. You got at 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.479 Rob Phillips three, I am stand back and then Kyle 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:29.080 underscore Yeoman's there as well, So tweet at us, send 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.040 us your questions. We'll answer him tomorrow and nine to 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.799 fifty fans on the fifty and we'll also go through 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.440 this defense as well. I want to know how that 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.920 defensive line did. We didn't get to them today. We're 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.759 gonna talk about him tomorrow, but that's gonna do it 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.600 here for us on the Monday edition of Talking Cowboys. Guys, 0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.880 the sun came up this morning. Let's stay positive. We 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.400 can be angry, we can be disappointed, but let's have 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.760 a good day overall. Thanks for joining us on Talking Cowboys. 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.359 For heck Ma Harrison, for Rob Phillips, for isaiahs dan Back, 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.520 and of course mister Chris Beam in the back up 0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.400 Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll see you tomorrow. 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