WEBVTT - Jasmine Crockett Interview: Why Trump Won, Fixing The Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Happy Monday. Welcome to another episode of the Chuck Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a fascinating guest today that I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very interested in hearing from. It's Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett from Dallas. My guess is, if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard an interview of her then, and you've only

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<v Speaker 1>seen clips, you may have drawn a conclusion about her

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<v Speaker 1>based on snippets, based on social media, based on a TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>based on this. Well, here's what you're going to get today.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get forty plus minutes getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>the congresswoman. This isn't going to be short snippets and

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<v Speaker 1>sound bites and all of that. And I just have

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling that if you have not had spent a

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<v Speaker 1>long time listening to her and just have a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of quick take hot take about her, after you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this interview, you will follow those hot takes where

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<v Speaker 1>they belong, which is probably somewhere in the garbage. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>The point is, I think you'll learn a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the conversation through the premise, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a couple of conversations over the next week

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<v Speaker 1>about this because she's making one recommendation of how Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>should deal with this current moment. I'm gonna row conna on.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to make another He's going to have another take.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard other Democrats make their take, and that's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Really is an interesting debate that is happening. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see it, I think over the next couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>frankly through in the run up to the eventual actual

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<v Speaker 1>start of the presidential primary campaign on the Democratic side.

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<v Speaker 1>But of just what tactic is better. Do you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be Trump light, do you need to be a

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<v Speaker 1>bit hot if you will on social media? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>this a time to actually zag just as Trump is zigging.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I get to that, I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the week ahead that we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>in politics and where the news is going to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump is going overseas. It's his first official overseas trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though he actually took one to the Pope's funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an unplanned This was the plan, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like he did in his first term, he decided to

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<v Speaker 1>make Saudi Arabia his first stop and the relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>he has developed with Saudi Arabia and UAE and Qatar

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<v Speaker 1>is quite close, and he's, let's just be honest, he's

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<v Speaker 1>blurring the lines between public and private in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that that that it's it's not even subtle, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so it's so blatant. But I think at

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of what you're going to see this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and the shiny metal object of the week is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the news that was broken over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had already gotten hints of this, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is the the fact that the President of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States is about to accept the largest gift that any

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<v Speaker 1>entity has ever given the United States. And what if

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that this gift was coming from the

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<v Speaker 1>chief patron of the terrorist organization known as Hamas. You

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<v Speaker 1>remember Hamas. This is the group behind the killing and

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapping of Israelis and Americans on October seventh. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a terrorist organization that has the blood of Americans on

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<v Speaker 1>their hands, the blood of Israelis on their hands, the

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<v Speaker 1>blood of other Palestinians on their hands. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a good group of people, Okay. Hamas is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>organization and their chief protector is the government of Qatar.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is the government of Kantar about to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about to gift Donald Trump a plane, a seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven. And Donald Trump, it's considered it's so ornate

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<v Speaker 1>that it's called a palace in the sky. So Donald trum,

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<v Speaker 1>what's to accept this gift? He toured He sort of

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<v Speaker 1>kicked the tires on this plane down in Palm Beach

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<v Speaker 1>when it was parked there. It was just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>showing it off to him, and he got to tour it. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there is an actual clause in the Constitution, the Emoluments Clause,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes foreign gifts like this personally taking it illegal. Now, technically,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump government is saying that this is a gift

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<v Speaker 1>to the US Air Force and that it'll eventually end

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<v Speaker 1>up as a gift to the Trump Presidential Library. And

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<v Speaker 1>so since it is not being given to an individual

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<v Speaker 1>and it is not connected to any specific act, that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow this is not bribery and that somehow this is constitutional. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So meanwhile, I'm about to sell you some land in

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<v Speaker 1>the Everglade Swamp. If you'd like to buy that great land,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, you should be able to develop on it

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<v Speaker 1>quite easily. Look, this is as corrupt of a bargain

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<v Speaker 1>as we've seen any president ever make. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's it's hard to keep up with the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of blatant corruption that has taken place in just the

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<v Speaker 1>first one hundred and twenty so days. Right, this trip

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<v Speaker 1>was preceded by the way this trip to the Middle

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<v Speaker 1>East that the president is on was preceded by his

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<v Speaker 1>sons going there doing some various business deals, including in

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<v Speaker 1>the crypto space, in some ways laying the groundwork for

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<v Speaker 1>the quote official presidential visit. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the White House is actually signaling that, hey, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a big national security visit, this isn't about Iran or

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<v Speaker 1>the future of gods or anything like that, that this

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<v Speaker 1>really is more of a business trip. Now they're claiming

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<v Speaker 1>it's the business of you know, Gulf States doing business

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<v Speaker 1>with the United States and with American businesses. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big event on the thirteenth, on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday in Saudi Arabia that is a public private event

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<v Speaker 1>in order to essentially connect American businesses with potentially with

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi money. And look, Saudi Arabia is an ally, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're an ally. We can have the conversation about whether

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia, Ua, and Qatar. Whether these countries are small,

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<v Speaker 1>d democratic, here's a clue they're not. But certainly they

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<v Speaker 1>have things we need, including access to energy. Right, this

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<v Speaker 1>has always been a very transactional relationship that we've had

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<v Speaker 1>with them. But what Donald Trump is doing it by

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<v Speaker 1>personalizing this relationship. And there's already so many uncomfortable aspects

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<v Speaker 1>to this. His son in law has private equity money

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<v Speaker 1>that came from the Middle East in and around the

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<v Speaker 1>deals he was doing for the so called Abraham Accords.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Manushan when he was Treasury Secretary, as he was leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>was taking trips on official government business getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>his own private equity money that he now manages there

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<v Speaker 1>and has a significant investment from these Middle Eastern players

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<v Speaker 1>in the Gulf States. And now you've got the President

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<v Speaker 1>the United States just blatantly accepting this plane. Now look

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<v Speaker 1>the plane itself. There is no possibility this is legal.

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<v Speaker 1>But the irity is that the White House is claiming

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<v Speaker 1>they went to the Attorney General, and they went to

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<v Speaker 1>the White House Council and they somehow think on a

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<v Speaker 1>technicality that they're getting around any constitutional problems with accepting

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<v Speaker 1>this gift. Whether it's legal or not, it's inappropriate. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a terrible look the president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States of America can't afford to buy its

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<v Speaker 1>own presidential plane, so they need a gift of a

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<v Speaker 1>monarch slash dictator in the Middle East. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>get a plane from them. By the way, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a Boeing plane. At least it's American made. I will

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<v Speaker 1>give the president that. It would have been even more

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<v Speaker 1>awkward if if he was being gifted an air bus

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make it the presidential plane. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they remotely want to make this legal, if he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it air Force one, and apparently that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do. They're going to accept this plane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to get essentially retrofitted with all the things

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<v Speaker 1>a president needs in the air and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Air Force one for the remainder of Trump's term.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is frustrated because there was supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 1>new Air Force one. There hasn't been a new Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force one in thirty years, and there was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a new Air Force one. There's been delays and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like Boeing because they can't deliver anything on time.

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<v Speaker 1>These days, Boeing is not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver this until twenty twenty nine, when Donald Trump will

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<v Speaker 1>no longer be president. But he he needs his plane now.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he stomped his feet and pounded the table.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants his plane. Give him his PS five, give

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<v Speaker 1>him his video games. Now, give him his plane right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I've always said with Donald Trump, if you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand his psyche, if you have a teenage boy,

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<v Speaker 1>or had a teenage boy, then you know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to manage Donald Trump. They want stuff instantaneously, they

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<v Speaker 1>can't handle no for an answer, and they're always looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a shortcut to get what they want. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been Donald Trump's life for what is he now? It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be seventy nine in June, so the plane

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the latest shiny metal object. The

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<v Speaker 1>irony to this is I think Donald Trump believes he's

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<v Speaker 1>untouchable now right his own base is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>care about this. The elected Republicans who all were outraged

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<v Speaker 1>about Hunter Biden making money off of Joe Biden in

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<v Speaker 1>his last name, have been incredibly silent as Eric and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump Junior have done this crypto business using their

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<v Speaker 1>father's name to do this. Never mind half the deals

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<v Speaker 1>they've been conducting in the Middle East, all all with

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<v Speaker 1>overtures having to do with what the federal government, with

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<v Speaker 1>the US government form policy, is going to do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>totally been mixed in here. If Hunter Biden were doing

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent of this, you might have had Democrats agreeing

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<v Speaker 1>to impeachment proceedings against Joe Biden if this is how

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden and the business of the Bidens were behaving.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what the business of the Trump's are behaving.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be very curious if any Republicans are comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>putting sticking their head up and saying this is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw what the crypto when he did his crypto fundraiser,

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<v Speaker 1>where basically they announced, if you buy his fake token,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump coin, the top coin holders are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get access to the president, going to get a private fundraiser,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if you are really a top buyer of

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<v Speaker 1>his coin, you get even further access to VIP two

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<v Speaker 1>or possibly of the White House, possibly of something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And Cynthia Lummus and a few others they thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be a bridge too far. And actual crypto

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<v Speaker 1>advocates have quiet I actually been whispering that Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>greed with these Millennia coins and these Trump coins, his

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<v Speaker 1>personal greed in trying to make and scam crypto money

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<v Speaker 1>here is probably making it a lot harder to legitimize

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of the crypto industry. And you saw some

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats who are trying to be pro crypto here. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge skeptic of this. It is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ideal in baseball cards. There's no difference to me between

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<v Speaker 1>crypto and baseball cards. I believe in the blockchain. The

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<v Speaker 1>blockchain is an incredible technology, but we're not turning it

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<v Speaker 1>into a currency, and we're not replacing the US dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if you ever wanted to spend crypto,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what you have to do to spend crypto?

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<v Speaker 1>You got to exchange it for the US currency. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually spend this money and it is and

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<v Speaker 1>it is assigned to this So it is simply just

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<v Speaker 1>buying something with a baseball card or buying something with

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of art, except we're calling it crypto. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt there's a lot of people who have

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<v Speaker 1>over invested in Crypto and are desperate to see this

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<v Speaker 1>legitimized and decided Donald Trump was their best vehicle to

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<v Speaker 1>essentially try to get him to, you know, find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to line his pockets with crypto, to make him

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<v Speaker 1>invested in it so that he too wants to see

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of federal government legitimizing crypto so that they

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<v Speaker 1>can so they can all sort of make whatever money

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<v Speaker 1>they think this crypto should be worth. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. So you add all this up there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is one of those where I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to quote Bob Dole from nineteen ninety six when he

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrated that when the Clintons were raising money in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. But I remember when Republicans thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was a bridge too far. I'll be curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>if any of these Republicans speak up today about the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>about crypto, about this entire trip to the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems to be more about personal business dealings than

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<v Speaker 1>it is for anything professional. On behalf of the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government and behalf of the US taxpayers. But here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>and the question is whether this is something that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tolerated by elected officials. Look, he's been.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he thinks he's untouchable because he's been impeached twice,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably right, what are they going to do

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<v Speaker 1>and peach him again? They don't have the votes, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll not do it. He knows he can get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and he knows that there's enough people in

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<v Speaker 1>his orbit also trying to surf with him and make

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<v Speaker 1>money off of these questionable deals that they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to say anything. And some of these folks are getting

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<v Speaker 1>campaign money from some of these groups in order to

0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>also keep quiet. So look, this is a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>blatant violation of the Constitution. Anybody trying to claim that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not is just rationalizing craziness, if you will. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea that this somehow meets does it violate the Amolument's

0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:08.600
<v Speaker 1>clause is willful ignorance on that front. So look, I

0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.920
<v Speaker 1>think this trip is he at some you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, right, I used to say, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, there's only so much the public

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<v Speaker 1>can take. There might be only so much elected officials

0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.880
<v Speaker 1>can take, but maybe not. We are living in such

0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a transactional environment these days. Everybody's got to get theirs

0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got to monetize this. Everybody's had that. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>also such a nobody's shocked anymore that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to make personally gain on whatever he's involved with.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in his own mind, he probably sees this

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<v Speaker 1>to the plane or any of these deals as sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a commission. Hey, I'm making the deal. Why shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>I get a little something? Trust me, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask him that question, I promise you if he would,

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<v Speaker 1>you could lead him down that road where he would

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<v Speaker 1>sort of accept the prevature. Yeah, I should get a

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<v Speaker 1>little something for the effort, because these people are only

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<v Speaker 1>making deals because they're making deals with me. That's that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the an example of that kind of of

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of rationalization. So look, this is this should

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<v Speaker 1>be one of those things that should be extraordinarily uh

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<v Speaker 1>one of these moments. It should be a feeding frenzy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it won't be. There should be bipartisan outrage, but

0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.440
<v Speaker 1>there won't be. Again, I'm old enough to remember when

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<v Speaker 1>Nuke Gingrich thought the Democratic Speaker of the House Jim Wright,

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<v Speaker 1>was unfairly making money on a book deal and drove

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<v Speaker 1>him out of the speakership. I'll be curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>if Nuke Gingrich says a word about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with with with Qatar essentially bribing the United States, because

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<v Speaker 1>here is Katar the chief patron of AMAS, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing everything they can to keep us off their back,

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<v Speaker 1>how by essentially buying America off by the way, Qatar

0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.320
<v Speaker 1>has been buying up you know, they have a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wizards and the Caps. This is not a small,

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<v Speaker 1>d democratic country, mind you. And yet they have been

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<v Speaker 1>buying up various entities in DC. They are huge, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're huge, sort of contributors to the lobbying community as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole. There's plenty of events that get held in

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<v Speaker 1>DC that couldn't be held without the generosity of the Kataris.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the that's the corrupt bargain that I think

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<v Speaker 1>both parties have made with the with these Gulf states. Again,

0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.520
<v Speaker 1>these are places that don't give women equal rights, that

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<v Speaker 1>treat that don't that don't exactly have democratic values, and

0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we turn the other way because of how much money

0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they give they put into our system in this town. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course whatever personal benefit that is happening

0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.080
<v Speaker 1>with the Trump family and the derivative businesses involving the

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Trump family. So look, this is I've said before it's kleptocracy,

0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that he's turned the party in the kleptocracy. This is

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<v Speaker 1>yet the latest sign. I mean, the idea that he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to get a personal plane to use once

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<v Speaker 1>he's done being president from Katar via this gift to

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government. I mean, it is audacious. That is audacious.

0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I will give you that. I mean, every time you think, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>would he really do that, you know what the answer is,

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is always yes. All right. A few other

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<v Speaker 1>things I want to hit on. I was glad to

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<v Speaker 1>see that the Vice President and the Secretary State did

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in India and Pakistan and trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>this ceasefire. Is the last time i'd left, you made

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty clear that I think what was happening over

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<v Speaker 1>there is an indirect result of america retreat, essentially of

0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration signaling that America is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>retreating from the world stage, not wanting multilateral agreements and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, and that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>this this pullback. When you have this pullback, more countries

0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.000
<v Speaker 1>are going to take matters into their own hands. When

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<v Speaker 1>you signal that you're for nationalism, you're signaling the other

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<v Speaker 1>countries they should be nationalistic in their decision making, whether

0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it's on the economy or national security, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we had that. But it was good to see

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<v Speaker 1>that both Ruvio Advance realized that America is the essential nation,

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<v Speaker 1>whether whether we want to admit it or not. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we're not involved, nobody else is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>involved to try to try to stop a war between

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<v Speaker 1>two nuclear powers. So I was glad to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's been some back and forth, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're telling me the United States is over the

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<v Speaker 1>role that Rubio and Vance played because Donald Trump announced it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm shocked that that could possibly be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact is we did get involved a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>A few other things that I want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to the conversation with Jasmine Crockett. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe the ad campaign speaking of US taxpayer dollars

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<v Speaker 1>being used for personal and political purposes. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning. There wasn't a lot to watch as far

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 1>as live sports was concerned, so I put on my

0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>ESPN Plus. I was watching a little multi screen of

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<v Speaker 1>the Truest Championship. It's a golf tournament based in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had a lot of the top tier golfers

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<v Speaker 1>actually participating. Right these non major events, they're usually frankly,

0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sort of a I watch golf if

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else on, and there are players that I

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<v Speaker 1>recognize playing, and in this case there were Roy mack

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<v Speaker 1>le Roy people like that. Well, there was one ad

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that kept running over and over, and it was an

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 1>ad paid for by the US Homeland Security Department, and

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it was voiced by Christy no and it was basically

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<v Speaker 1>bragging about all the arrests, bragging about showing footage of

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<v Speaker 1>that questionable prison that's been run in El Salvador that

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<v Speaker 1>certainly has plenty of outside groups say violates basic human

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<v Speaker 1>rights and certainly doesn't abide by I think US standards

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<v Speaker 1>of how we would be expected to keep a prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, and it's paid for with US TEXTPA.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like a campaign ad. You know, she was

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<v Speaker 1>saying President We're keeping President Trump's promise, We're rounding these

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>people up. And it was clear think about what this

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was being advertised on golf. The demographic of the golf

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>fan is older and wider, and they are trying desperately

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.959
<v Speaker 1>to make them think that a roundup has taken place.

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<v Speaker 1>So they put the big number on screen, one hundred

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:12.719
<v Speaker 1>thousand detained, and I guess in order to have it

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<v Speaker 1>pass legal muster. At the end is this awkward transition

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>where Nomes says, so download the app. If you download

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<v Speaker 1>the app, you can avoid this fate and you might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to come back. So it was clear that

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that was what their lawyer instructed them, that if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to run this campaign at paid for with taxpayer dollars,

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got to at least make an attempt to do

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<v Speaker 1>a public service of some sort, and right at the

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<v Speaker 1>very end, the public services to download the CPP app

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<v Speaker 1>in order to avoid the fate apparently of going to

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<v Speaker 1>prison in Al Salvador. I will just say again, considering

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<v Speaker 1>what I opened with with this plane, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>find other bits, the amount of sort of illegal uneff,

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the goal behavior taking place in different cabinet agencies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just blows my mind. And this one again, is it

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>going to rise up a lot of people aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to notice it, but it's your taxpayer dollars being used

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to try to sort of buff up President Trump's image

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>on the border and again or and frankly a way

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>too for Christy Nome to give herself more of a

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>national name as well, but again using taxpayer dollars, because

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you there wasn't the people they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to download that app weren't watching the truest Championship

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 1>golf tournament. All right, There's a lot more that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get to. We've got current negotiations as I'm

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>talking now here on Sunday evening. We know that the

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<v Speaker 1>China talks in Switzerland continue, fourth round of talks with

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<v Speaker 1>Iran continue. It is clear Donald Trump, being missed not

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<v Speaker 1>the best negotiator. His signal he's desperate to make a

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<v Speaker 1>deal with both of them. So some form of a

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<v Speaker 1>deal I think is going to be coming, and coming soon.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see how the Gulf States. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, there's no doubt Donald Trump's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>want to have an Iranian deal while he's over there.

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<v Speaker 1>So my guess is that that continues to get slow

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<v Speaker 1>walked a little bit. He wants to get through his

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>trip with the Saudi's UAE guitar and then and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get his loot, including the plane. Then when he comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>my guess is that's when he's going to do that

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<v Speaker 1>Iran deal, because the Iran Deal isn't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>popular in Saudi Arabia and the Iron Deal isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be popular in Israel, because it's clear jd Vance

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<v Speaker 1>has already signaled this that they plan to allow some

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Uranian enrichment if it's for quote unquote civilian power it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this, it looks like Donald Trump's pulling

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<v Speaker 1>a NAFTA that basically he's doing the same deal. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be cutting pretty much the same deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranians at Barack Obama cut, but they're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to give it a different name and say, hey, look

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a brand new deal. And as for China, obviously

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he already signaled he desperately wants to bring down the

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>tariffs and wants jointly to bring down the tariffs. Doesn't

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>want to look like we're doing it unilaterally begging the

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Chinese to deal with us. So I imagine something is

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>coming there because again we're the ones desperate to make

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<v Speaker 1>a deal, and the Chinese do want to make a

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>deal as well. All right enough for me, I hope

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed this introduction. Again, I cannot believe that this

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<v Speaker 1>is I mean, this feels like a bad movie plot

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<v Speaker 1>that the President of the United States is taking a

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>plane as a gift. It's a gift to the country

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to pocket it personally. It's and somehow

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>this is just going to be allowed to happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this Congress will have the power to prevent

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the Air Force from transferring ownership of that plane to

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the Trump Library, if they so choose to use that power.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a Republican House and a Republican Senate wouldn't do it,

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But would a Democratic House and a Republican Senate do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they might just something to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let me sneak in a break and when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back. Fascinating conversation with one of the rising

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<v Speaker 1>stars of the Democratic Party, Jasmine Crockett. All right in

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<v Speaker 1>joining me now is one of the rising stars of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party, Jasmine Crockett, Democratic congresswoman from Dallas, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>representing the thirtieth Congressional District. Congresswoman, welcome to the Chuck Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I'm going to make you do one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite old from the Old Colbert Show was get

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<v Speaker 1>to know a congressional district when he used to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me yours, take, give, give, my give, our

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>listeners and viewers. Here a quick tour of the thirtieth

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>district in Dallas, and you know, point out a few landmarks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is the school Book Depository in your district

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>or not? Is SMU? I say that as a future

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<v Speaker 1>father of an SMU student starting next fall. So tell

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>me about the geographic and the and the demographic nature

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<v Speaker 1>of your district.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So when most people think of Dallas, it belongs

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Most people associate downtown Dallas and the downtown

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<v Speaker 3>Skyline with Dallas, and all of that is mine. But

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<v Speaker 3>basically that's pretty much as far north as I go.

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<v Speaker 3>I go a little bit further north and I get

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<v Speaker 3>to Dallas love Field, which for all of my Southwest lovers,

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<v Speaker 3>that is exactly where Southwest Airlines is based, along with

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<v Speaker 3>the JSX Airlines for those that like a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more luxury or I found out that your dogs get

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<v Speaker 3>to fly and kind of have all the space that

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<v Speaker 3>they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Not right, Yes, I've never heard of this thereline they

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<v Speaker 1>let dog free.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I don't know, I haven't been on it, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's what a dog lover told me, is like they

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<v Speaker 3>only fly JSX now because of the space that their

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 3>dog is.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 2>They don't have to put like their dog under or

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>in a cage or something.

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>And then you go down.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.479
<v Speaker 1>In your district, love field is mine, I gotcha, okay.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And then you.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Go all the way to the southern Dallas County border.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 3>You can get from one end of my district to

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 3>the other in about thirty minutes, which there's not a

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of members of Congress that can say that.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>So that means that my district is pretty compact.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 3>You get to the southern border and that kind of

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 3>ends the districts, but you start to get into suburbs.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 2>My district is majority minority. It is a Section two district.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>So for those of you that have been looking into

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 3>the fights that have been waged at the Supreme Court level,

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's all about representation and especially people of color

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 3>being able to elect the representation. It is a very

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 3>historic district. I am only the second person to ever

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 3>represent the district. My predecessor was.

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>She got Eddie Bernie Johnson, Kirkman Farmer. Was it ninety

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>two her first year, Yes, yes, exactly after the voting

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>basically the Updated Voting Rights Act that created the Bush

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the first Bush Bush forty one Justice Department in many

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>ways helped for a variety of political motivations, but helped

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>make sure there was more representation in African Americans in Congress.

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 3>And she was actually in the Senate, the last black

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 3>woman to actually serve in the Texas Senate. We've only

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>had two. The first one is Barbara Jordan. And so

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 3>she actually chaired the redistricting committee that ended up drawing

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>these maps. And then so she chaired that committee, did

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that in nineteen ninety and ninety two, she ran for

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 3>the seat, won the seat, and she served until twenty

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 3>two basically, and then I swore in in twenty twenty three.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 3>The reason that I brought up JSX and Southwest Airlines

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 3>is because I really do have an aviation rich district.

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Not only do I have kind of two airlines that

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 3>are right there anchored in my district. American Airlines is

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 3>right up the street, not in my district, but they're

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 3>so big that they claim us all that is for sure.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 3>But also air Bus, which some people are starting to

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>hear more about Airbus as Boeing what's having issues. Usually

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 3>if you are flying domestically on a plane, it is

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 3>typically an Airbus plane or Boeing, And so Airbus actually

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 3>has a facility that's within my district. Airbus is probably

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 3>better known for their helicopters. If you're in the aviation

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of world, they are the ones that build pretty

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 3>much all of our life saving helicopters, whether they are

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 3>helicopters for firefighters and they're helping to fight wildfires or

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 3>whether we're talking about the coast Guard or whether we're

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>talking about law enforce. They specially retrofit the helicopters to be, you.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Know, specific to whichever area they're in.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 3>So with that, I have a lot of aviation, so

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 3>I have had to learn a lot about aviation. But

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the coolest things that I was able to

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 3>do that I think every member should be allowed to do,

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.959
<v Speaker 3>is I was able to actually take a look of

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>my district from above because Airbus took me on a

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 3>helicopter ride around my district.

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So what did that teach you. What did that show you?

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 3>So you know, you have people that come in and

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 3>they give you numbers or they tell you that they

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 3>have a type of industry. I could see it. So

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I am a logistically heavy district, Like logistics run the world.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So beyond these kind of airplanes. These airplanes are flying

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>in to Dallas Love or even DFW is where a

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of our commerce is flying into. But you know,

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 3>one of the things my predecessor worked on was an

0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 3>inland port.

0:30:59.120 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>And now I.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Could see all the trucks. So I saw all of

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 3>these distribution centers.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I knew that Home Depot had two distribution centers in

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 3>my district and there's no other district in the country

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>that has to. And mind you, I'm compact, so I

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 3>was thinking, oh, I must have a lot. But JC

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Penny's National distribution Center is right there in my district

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 3>and so many others. But I could see it. I

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 3>could see all of the trucking So in talking to

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>those that were like, I've got a number of trucking

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 3>schools and I've talked to some of the owners. So

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 3>it really kind of put it all together for me

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 3>to see it from above, and it would probably surprise

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>some people that I've actually ridden attractor trailer in my

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 3>district as well, So you go just into my suburbs

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 3>and you can get into a little bit of farming

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 3>as well. But it's mostly an interurban kind of district.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 3>And so we've got some of the big corporate biggies

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 3>that are based there at and T and others.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>A dating site that I won't miss it.

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you tell me that the place feels like

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a magnet right now, meaning people just want to move

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to that region, People want to move to that area.

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Do you feel that, Oh yeah, I mean listen, during COVID,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>the DFW area was growing exponentially, and overall we've seen

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the growth in Texas just kind of be off the charts.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 3>They thought we were going to get four new seats

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 3>in redistricting. We feel like there may have been an undercount.

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 3>There was a little pandemic that was going on. We

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 3>got three new seats and now they're projecting for twenty

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty they will get an additional four seats. So no,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 3>we are growing leaps and bounds in the state of Texas.

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 3>But truly DFW has been one of those fastest growing areas.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>So how'd you get to Texas? How'd you get to Dallas?

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I know you were born and were you how

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>long did you live.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>In Saint Louis till I was eighteen?

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're you're so, do you consider.

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I am Lewis?

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Okay, but no, I left at eighteen and that

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm like coming back and I haven't been back.

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>So left at eighteen.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>S Lewis is a tragedy to me in so many levels.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I just I it really. I have a lot of

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.239
<v Speaker 1>family there, I've been have so many I go to.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I go there all the time for various family events. Yeah,

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and Saint Louis was this amazing, thriving city for you know,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>essentially for the first eighty years of the twentieth century.

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's sort of like it's like it lost every

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like it lost every deal right TWA left and you

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>know this left and the financial age edwards left and

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the just it all just and you're like, I remember

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>during the Amazon headquarters debate, I was like, please go

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to Saint Louis, Please put it in Saint Louis. It

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>is we need to revise this great American city. What

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>would you do if you could wave a magic.

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Wand I think that you're right.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, even though I still would not want to

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 3>go home, I do. I think that you point out

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>an interesting fact because I feel like Saint Louis didn't

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 3>keep up. I feel like Saint Louis was ahead of

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 3>the curve.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 2>We had the Mississippi to the west.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>It was about that was the port everything.

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Went through up and down the Mississippi right, So like

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 3>this was like a bustling area, but like as far

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 3>as being able to kind of transition with the times

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and being able to kind of keep up, I think

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 3>at one point in time it was like they were

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 3>ahead of the times, and then they got a little

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 3>bit behind. I mean, I'm glad that Anheuser Bush is

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 3>still right there anchored in Saint Louis.

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's really it's, you know, look the.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Truck they're all over because I don't know the right

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 3>there in my district in Texas, Yes, we actually have

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 3>the sixth largest beer distributor right there in my district.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 3>I do lots of Vedam district too, But nevertheless, Anne

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 3>has Bush still is, you know, I mean, that's this

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 3>is I grew up as a girl.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Looking at the class deals.

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, a very big thing, but I think that

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 3>it's a lesson that we need to learn. I mean,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>if I had a magic wand, I would say that

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>I would try to get the population in Saint Louis

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 3>educated in a future workforce capacity or a present day

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 3>workforce capacity, understanding technology understanding STEM, which also goes with

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 3>technology obviously, but I would get them focused on that

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 3>figuring out who is going to be over making sure

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 3>that we can safeguard what AI is and what it ain't.

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 3>So we need people that are trained up and knowledgeable enough.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 3>But we'll do the good work of being government employees,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 3>even though you could go out in private industry and

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 3>make more, but I would really steer them towards more technology.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 3>And then even as we talk about logistics, like I

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>don't really know what other kind of logistical kind of

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>angles they have besides the actual Mississippi right.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 1>So honestly, it's not a bad one.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>I know it's not long that I'm definitely not seeing that,

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 3>But like the fact is, I'm talking to you about

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 3>my district and how many planes come through, right, Like

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 3>W is one of the.

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Laws that's commerce and commerce leads to.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Jobs, and that's exactly right.

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 3>So like it's kind of you know, and and when

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 3>I talked about those trucks, right, it's the trains, it's

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 3>the trucks, and it's the planes, right. And so even

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>though I don't have a big river coming through my district,

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 3>we are doing logistics. And logistics is so ort it

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 3>was so important because you know, traditionally we have been

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>a global economy. We historically have been building and building

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 3>and building out our our our trade.

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, in a very global way.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>And now I don't really know so, but I would

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>say building around what you have that naturally occurs and

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 3>building that up, I think it could be fantastic and phenomenal.

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 3>So I think logistics would be a very strong space.

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 3>And then from an educational space, I think just anything

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 3>that you could do for getting people trained up for AI,

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 3>which I think is truly taken over in this moment.

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I say it's a lesson is because

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I think that we are not paying attention to like

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>what happened to the Saint louis Is of the world,

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 3>right and deciding that we won't be that as a country.

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 3>And I think that we are running the risk of that,

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 3>especially as we're going through these mass deportations and things

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 3>like that, like not making sure or not allowing us

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 3>to have the best of everything that we can have.

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, it's helped Detroit they took a lot

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of immigrant populations, they took a lot of refugees. You know,

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>it's helped Minneapolis, Saint Paul, they took a lot of refugees.

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Refugees and first gen immigrants are the building blocks of

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>economic dynamism within a generation.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.280
<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, you're absolutely right.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 3>And literally I've traveled the world on congressional delegation trips

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 3>where my colleagues speak a lot differently when we get

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 3>out to other portions of the world.

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't you wish that that's the way Congress work? Those

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I hear, those codels are what get members of Congress

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to run for reelection again, meaning it sort of it

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>gives them hope. Boy, when we don't have a bunch

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.760
<v Speaker 1>of idiot reporters like me running around shoving tape recorders

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in your face or trying to get you to trash

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>each other, you guys could get some stuff done.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean they believe in climate change. When we're

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 3>out of the country, like it's like a whole other world.

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 3>When we start talking about the exchange programs, like most

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 3>people don't know, as we talk about in healthcare, healthcare

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 3>worker shortage that like Thailand produces like more nurses than anybody,

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 3>and so as we're trying to make sure that we

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 3>can take care of our population, and as there are

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>people that are looking for opportunities and they're already trained up,

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 3>or the fact that there's these attacks on our institutions

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 3>right now, well that's not helping when it comes down

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 3>to exchange programs and being able to take the unique

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 3>backgrounds that some of these amazing students have and bring

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 3>them in in a collaborative way, or when we're snatching

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 3>students off the streets right and throwing them into some

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 3>form of captivity and revoking their student visas, like that's

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.919
<v Speaker 3>not making people want to send some of their best

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>and brightest to the institutions that historically have been looked

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 3>at as the best institutions. I can't tell you how

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 3>many times we've sat down across from whether it was

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 3>a Prime minister or a president or a secretary of

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 3>this or that, and they tell us that they went

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>over to the United States and got their education. Literally,

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 3>people around the world have been educated right here in

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 3>the United States, and people in their home countries respect that.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.959
<v Speaker 2>They look at that and it has been a badgot That's.

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Why they're in charge, exactly because getting an American education

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>put them a little bit higher on their ladder.

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. And I don't know that that's going

0:39:58.320 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 3>to be the case going forward.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 1>So let me start with you've been in Congress a

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>short time. There's gonna be some people this is the

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>first time they've heard you for more than a few minutes,

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>meaning they may have gotten a piece of you, maybe

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 1>seen something go viral. When it comes to communicating in

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the modern era, going viral matters, But going viral can

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>be a double edged sort. And I think you tell me,

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've experienced both edges of that sort

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>at times. How much of it is a necessary evil

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>in your mind, and how much of this is just, Hey,

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>this is the way it works now, and you know

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>this is the way I have to do it.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think virality matters. That may not be a

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 3>popular opinion, but when I got elected, no one in

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 3>my district ever expected or thought that I would go viral.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think that it matters in the sense

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 3>that I think people should say, if I'm going to

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 3>be relevant in politics, then this is what needs to

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 3>be done. We know that one of the most unpopular

0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 3>people in Congress, she has gone viral a lot, and

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, when it comes down to her being able

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 3>to raise money, She's been able to raise money from

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 3>every crevice of kind of the country because of that,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and that's kind of how she's been able to build

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 3>a platform. But I think has huh build I don't

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 3>think she has, right, Like, so the things.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That really assume you're referring to Margie Taylor Green, I am, yeah, No,

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I say that because I think that that's that's the

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's usually what happens if you want to

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>be if you want to try to go that road,

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to actually get stuff done on the inside.

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 3>I think that that that is a risk that certain

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 3>people run. It depends on, like for what reasons. Right, Like,

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 3>for instance, I was just applauding Lauren Underwood for an

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 3>exchange that she had this week with Christine Nome, and

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, it went viral. I mean, it's kind of

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 3>everywhere where Christy Nome is kind of wavering on, you know,

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>the Constitution and whether or not you know she is

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Secretary of the Department of Homeland, should actually like follow it, right,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 3>you know. I think that there are certain things that

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>it absolutely is very important that that information gets out.

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 3>And for some people, if I'm being honest, like a

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of people that may be listening in, they obviously

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 3>have time to do it. But the reality is that

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 3>the average American is trying to figure out how they're

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.879
<v Speaker 3>going to put food on the table, a roof over

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>their head, clothes on their kids' backs, and so they

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 3>only have time for a TikTok, right Like, they only

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 3>have those little moments, And so I do think it

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.439
<v Speaker 3>does bring value in that way. But as far as

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 3>being an actual member of Congress, No, I think what

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 3>matters most as a member of Congress is that you

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 3>sit down and you do things like what we do,

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 3>which is we send out weekly emails that are newsletters

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 3>that give you pictures of the meetings that I've taken

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 3>with uptext on what happened in those meetings. You can

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 3>see videos, video clips of meet and commit You can

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 3>see me in district if that's where I was, and

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 3>then we give out other information. We also send out mailers.

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 3>We also do what we call community like office hours,

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 3>so we go out and we don't make people necessarily

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 3>come in, so sometimes they're after hours, but they are

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 3>in other parts of our district. So we've been to

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>every single city multiple times, and we send out text

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 3>messages with information. I think that's what matters in Congress

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 3>because ultimately, regardless of how viral a member may or

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 3>may not be, at the end of the day, you

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 3>only get reelected one way, and that way is by

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 3>making sure that you are communicating with your district.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to go in so many directions here,

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>including Texas politics, but let me start with the Oversight Committee.

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, because no, I mean I sit there. You know. Look,

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those journalists who always rolls their eyes

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>when there's an oversight committee hearing, right, because it feels

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like predictable partisan talking points, right if its depending on

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>who's you know, of one half of the questioners defending

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the person being being questioned in the other half, and

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>then it's always like, oh whoa a member of the

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>same party asked a tough question right, that becomes the

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>news rather than let me ask you this. You've you've

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>watched this, now you've participated. How can we improve oversight?

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And would it be better if there were no TV cameras?

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>It would absolutely be better if there were no cameras.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that that will never happen.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>But I know c SPAN is one of those things like, hey, look,

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a sunshine guy, but I also don't believe in

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>cameras in the courtroom. Give me audio. Give me all

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the audio in the world. I'll take all the live

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>audio in the world. If we cameras in the courtroom

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>gives us too many Lancidos, and that's not a good thing.

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think though, I mean, if you've got people,

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 3>if you've got like a president that doesn't understand that

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 3>he took an oath to the Constitution, like to protect

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 3>and defend it, I don't I think you're given them

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 3>a little too much credit. Like we have people that

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 3>are elected in government and truly don't understand how it works.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 3>And so in order for oversight to work the way

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 3>that it should, then it honestly would take people that

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.800
<v Speaker 3>understand what we're supposed to be doing. For instance, today

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I had to have a DOGE subcommittee hearing, and for

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 3>everybody out in the general public, when they hear DOGE,

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 3>they hear Department of Governmental Efficiency. This is all supposedly

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 3>about efficiency. The reason that we have had to fire

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 3>a historic number of you know, federal employees in such

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 3>a short amount of time is because it's more efficient.

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Not true, right, like, but all of these things that

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 3>we've experienced. The reason that you know, people may not

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 3>have their life saving healthcare across you know, the ocean,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 3>is because they had to cut off USAID because it

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 3>was efficient. Like that's what it was coined as. And

0:45:55.160 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 3>my hearing today was about trans people fencing. I mean

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 3>our argument was, please tell me what part of like

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>we read through the mission of dog as they created

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 3>the subcommittee, what does that have to do with anything?

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 2>And then they even admit it.

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 3>They were like, well, yeah, you know US fencing. We

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 3>know that we don't give you any money, you get

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 3>no federal doubts.

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing Wait a minute, let me let

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>me get this straight. The US fencing team as in

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>like the little it was the sword fighting, is that

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about.

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 2>It's all about fencing.

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 3>This was about girls fencing and I'm trying to think

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 3>of the name of the I'll get you the name.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Of the world meaning but meaning that you know, with

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the work mask and all this stuff.

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, yes, we had to have.

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>A hearing by hearing on sword fighting, like I mean.

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:55.439
<v Speaker 3>So literally it's like, I mean, I hear you, right,

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 3>but like these people don't even understand and maybe they

0:46:58.400 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have a hearing on.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 2>That there were no cameras, like maybe like.

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't, Well, that's the thing. I mean, that's that's

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>would be one of my contentions is that you take

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>away the incentive to to essentially, you know, perform for

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a base political base. And in that case, there's no

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>doubt that's just performance, right, that's just throwing chum into

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the water. Would it cut back on that, and you know,

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I assume it would, But then again, you know, would

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the country be even less informed about what Congress does? Right?

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly.

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's tell let's talk about this internal I don't know

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>what you call it debate. This is it a generational

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>divide or an ideological divide inside the Democratic Party? And

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>are they one and the same?

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I think it is more ideological. I think that.

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 3>You can find persons that absolutely believe that there needs

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 3>to be a more aggressive kind of fight in this moment,

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 3>and they're all ages, you know. And when I think

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>about some of you know, the strongest voices, you know,

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm always going to say Maxine Waters is going to

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 3>be like one of the first ones who's literally gonna

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 3>call out whatever. In Maxine is like eighty six eighties.

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she's like up there, right, And I don't

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 3>think anyone I.

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:23.919
<v Speaker 1>Don't hear a lot of progressive saying that that either

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Maxine Waters or Bernie Sanders are too old to be

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>talking correct.

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I really don't think.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I think that it's more so a mindset, and I

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 3>think that they are more so concerned about kind of

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 3>those that are stuck in tradition and stuck in this

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>idea of the institutions while not recognizing that the institutions

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 3>are literally burning around us, right like they're like over there,

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, they've got their water hoses. They're like nope, nope,

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 3>it's we're going to I vacillate.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Look, you're I'm one of these people. I vacillate between Hey,

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>let's let's save the institution. Verse is now let's rebuild

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.919
<v Speaker 1>the institution, meaning like you know, you got to save

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>what's left, you got a salvage what you have, right.

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And I understand that's probably an older mindset, right, one

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that says, oh, I'm back in my day, I remember

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>this all came together, versus those that are newer to

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the situation, going, what are you talking about? Like that

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't work, That's why we're here, right.

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's more so our issue is more

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>so how do you save the institution?

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And what is worth salvaging?

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Right? Because when you think about like a house burning,

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 3>like if there's a child or a loved one in there,

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 3>you're going to go and like, let me go get

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the kid, right, Like forget the clothes, forget the pictures.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's where we are. It's like

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 3>what parts of this are worth saving? Because there are

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 3>parts of this that failed us in the first place,

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 3>and frankly some of them that never worked anyway, like

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 3>never worked in a way that they worked for all

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 3>of us.

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>But I think the biggest debate is like how do

0:49:58.160 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you do that?

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Right? I think that that is why there's the discussions

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 3>about David Hogg and his approach to it, and it's like,

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 3>do you go after you know, safe Democrats and decide

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 3>that you're going to primary them, or do you just

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 3>say never mind, like a democrat is a Democrat, go

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 3>after the Republicans because they are the ones that.

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Are the arsonists of this story.

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that like it's about how you fight that

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>we kind of differ, or you know, you can look,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>the State of the Union is really the best example

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 3>of like how everyone sees this moment differently, right, Like

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 3>it's like we went out, we campaigned, we were like,

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.839
<v Speaker 3>this fool is a dictator and he's going to try to.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Tear everything down.

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 3>And that was before the one hundred days, when we

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 3>literally have receipts of him doing it right. And he's

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.760
<v Speaker 3>up there and he's given a State of the Union,

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 3>And who is it that is most disruptive a man

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 3>in his seventies. It's Al Green, someone who is of

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 3>the civil rights error and believes in civil disobedience.

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And this horse, as the late John Lewis used to

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:58.720
<v Speaker 1>call it, good trouble.

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and he believes in dealing with this completely differently.

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 2>And then you have those that sat there and didn't

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 2>do anything.

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Then you have those that had the signs that everybody

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.479
<v Speaker 3>got drove about, and then you had those of us

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 3>that decided that we were going to walk out right.

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that that's the issue. I think that in

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 3>our hearts, none of us like what's going on. It's

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 3>just a matter of we cannot get on a similar

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 3>page of like what does the response look like? What

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 3>does the fight look like? And I think that's really

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 3>our bigger issue. And I think that some people believe

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 3>if you've been in the institution too long, that there's

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 3>no way you were willing to fight back against it.

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 1>What's your assessment of how the Democrats got into the situation.

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I think it's been being too nice to be perfectly honest.

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I remember when I was in the state House,

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we fled Texas and we went to

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 3>DC and we were trying to kind of ring the

0:51:55.920 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 3>alarms about these horrific voter suppression bills that the Heritage

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Foundation dropped into Texas, dropped into Georgia, dropped into Florida.

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Like they were being very strategic about making sure that

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 3>they could minimize certain voices. And so you know what,

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I wish that the Democrats in the Senate would have

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 3>pushed half as hard and said, you know what, when

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>it comes to something foundational such as voting rights, which

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 3>we are basically taking our authority from the Constitution, there's

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:30.880
<v Speaker 3>a car about for that right. Like they have come

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:32.839
<v Speaker 3>up with carveouts for what they wanted to do, and

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that that could have prevented some of it.

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing as relates to the reauthorization of

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 3>the Voting Rights Acts, like they now have gone in

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 3>and decimated so many of these districts because they're like,

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 3>oh well, it's like district's gone wild, right, And when

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 3>you look at our margins in the House, we lost

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 3>by three seats.

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you lost by redistricting. You didn't lose it. You

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>lost by the Florida and the North Carolina remaps and

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in New York and the inability to do the remat

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>in New York. No, this was all done in the

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>courtroom now, correct, correct.

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 2>But they had the legislation right, and they refused to

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 2>do a carveout.

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 3>So like, if we're not going to fight for our

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 3>foundational things, then I get why people are like, I'm

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna sit at home, and I'm gonna sit on the

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 3>couch because, yeah, they may do bad, but y'all might

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:23.320
<v Speaker 3>doing nothing anyway.

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, So let me ask this, why do you think

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Trump won? And why do you think he won with

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>some voters that were on the Blue team at least

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve and twenty twenty. I'm not so sure

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>they were there in twenty sixteen. I think they didn't

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>show up.

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say that this was a ViBe's election,

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:42.240
<v Speaker 2>and I think.

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I hate that expression no offense. I don't know, but

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I know vibes. This is the cranky old man in me.

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, my gen exer. You're almost you're you're like

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you you're millennial technical.

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I am barely, but you're.

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.720
<v Speaker 1>A little more gen x in probably how you lived.

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So what I will say is this.

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 3>The reason that I say that is because how many

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 3>interviews have you seen where you ask people, well, why

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 3>did you vote for Trump?

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 2>They can't give you a policy, so we know.

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It always felt to me it was a vote against,

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not a vote for.

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that.

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I definitely felt like as far as the people that

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 3>were willing to talk, I felt like it was absolutely

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 3>a vote for him, and if they talked about policies,

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 3>it still wasn't really policies. Like I remember being on

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 3>the road and talking to various men, mostly black men,

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 3>and I say what's up and they'd be like, well,

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 3>we feel like the Democratic Party is emasculating us. And

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 3>then I'd say, how so, right, Like they still weren't

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about policy right, Like they weren't Like it's not

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 3>like they answered with like policy per se. The only

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 3>thing that they would say about quote unquote policy was

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 3>about trans vote right, And I would explain to them

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>that it's a distraction because I remember being at a

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 3>barbershop in Philly and talking to a guy and he

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 3>had this beautiful little daughter that was running around, and

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, I mean, I hear you, and I'm not

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 2>going to.

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Ask you to change how you believe about whatever you

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 3>believe in that kind of stuff, But like, tell me,

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:21.399
<v Speaker 3>is that going to better your ability to say, own

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.359
<v Speaker 3>your own barbershop one day? Is that going to better

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 3>your ability to take care of your child? And frankly,

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 3>if you are concerned about who's playing sports, can you

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 3>tell me which trans children go to school with your

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 3>daughter right now? And like he was like, I mean,

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm a vote for her, but those are the only

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:37.279
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. But it was kind of

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 3>like that, And so.

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 1>How big do you think this was there? How big

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 1>do you think this black man voter issue with Kamala Harris?

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>How much of that do you think was specific to

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>hesitation of voting a black man hesitating to vote for

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:53.479
<v Speaker 1>a black woman.

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 3>I will tell you what I was told, because I

0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 3>did think that I definitely think that there was misogyny

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 3>in this across the board, no matter what color male

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about. I just think that you'd be an

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 3>error to not like know that there was misogyny that existed.

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I will say this though, the very first polling briefing

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:21.280
<v Speaker 3>that we had with a polster that I trust a lot,

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 3>he briefed the Black Caucus and he said that one

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 3>of the issues that he was running into with black

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Speaker 3>and brown.

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Communities was that she had been a prosecutor.

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And this was more of a resume thing that there was.

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 3>There was definitely some resume stuff that this allowed her

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 3>from being able to build the type of rapport of

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 3>trust within these marginalized communities that historically have been targeted.

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 1>This was a huge problem in her own campaign for

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 1>president during the primaries, which is why she pivoted. She

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get out of that because that was

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>being used by other Democratic campaigns to say, hey, you know,

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 1>she was a prosecutor, she was black men in jail,

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and the thing is she right, which is why she

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>went down the busing road with you know, she had

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to some places that she probably wouldn't have

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>normally gone, but she felt she had to because she

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was trying to fix her own biography issues.

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 3>So literally early numbers that we were given, and I

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 3>promise you, I really do trust this.

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Polster said that.

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 3>So if you think back to my DNC speech, one

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 3>of the things that they actually the guidance that I

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 3>was given was to actually lean into her being a prosecutor.

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh hell, I'm like that is not helpful, right.

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 3>And so so when I did it, I did a

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 3>bit of a swing on it right as a criminal

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 3>defense attorney, and I explained, like, this is the kind

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 3>of prosecutor all would have won it, right, Like, so

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 3>I built it that way. But I did talk to

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 3>some people, even a prominent rapper who was like, I'm

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 3>going to support her, but I don't feel comfortable openly

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 3>endorsing her.

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to vote for her. And I'm like why.

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 3>And so he told me that one of the issues

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 3>was just kind of like the prosecutor thing, and I said,

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and I made sure to talk about the things that

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 3>we have been told moved the needle with these groups, right,

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 3>like knowing that she had like second chance programs and

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 3>things like that, like letting them know that she was

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 3>one of the good ones, like one of the ones

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 3>that we would have wanted, if it was Breonna Taylor.

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 3>That I mean, like, that's the kind that you want, right,

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 3>So we were trying to do that. But I think,

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 3>and it goes back to kind of the Trump phenomenon.

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that what had been baked in about the

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 3>vice president was that she was a prosecutor. They did

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 3>not know very much beyond that, And when you're talking

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 3>about one hundred and seven days of a campaign, it's

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:46.919
<v Speaker 3>kind of hard to get that across in actually.

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>A classic case where more time would have helped at

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 1>least on that issue.

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I absolutely believe that, especially since you want people

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 3>to not fear you, but you want them to like

0:58:57.840 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 3>trust you.

0:58:58.800 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what it comes down to.

0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 3>It It's like trust and you know, it's like you

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 3>can point out how many lives Trump does or whatever.

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 2>One of the reasons I.

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Think that he got away with trying to paint us

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 3>as liars is where like this dude is not a

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 3>good businessman, but you got to think about his profile

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 3>and you have to think about.

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Who he is.

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 3>And this is very specific to him. You have traveled

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 3>the country, potentially the world and seen buildings with the

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 3>name Trump on the side of them, and then you

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 3>don't get enough FaceTime with somebody to explain, no, his

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 3>name is on the building, but he don't own the building.

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Like you don't like get to get into the minutia

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 3>on that. So he had been built up as this

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 3>amazing smart businessman who had all this money instead of like, no,

0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:47.960
<v Speaker 3>he inherited money when he was born, and frankly, he

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 3>would have had more money if he just sat on

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 3>that money and didn't do anything because he.

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you know how hard Yeah, yeah, somebody else beat

0:59:57.280 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the house.

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's crazy, but like it's but still like

1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:05.600
<v Speaker 3>how many people know all of these details?

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:10.400
<v Speaker 3>And so that's what So there was this longstanding kind

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:17.080
<v Speaker 3>of idea of Trump as this successful, smart, hard businessman.

1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 3>And then for the most part, what people knew about

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the vice president is that she had been a prosecutor.

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 3>She had been a prosecutor on the state level, she

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 3>had been the attorney general.

1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Like they only kind of knew her in that way,

1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:30.280
<v Speaker 2>because I.

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Remember struggling with it way before we were figuring out

1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:36.320
<v Speaker 3>who was gonna run for what or whatever. Sure was

1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:39.080
<v Speaker 3>this issue or this idea of people that said, well,

1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I voted for I voted for Kamala, right, Like they

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 3>went and voted for the ticket, right, voted for Joe

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:46.960
<v Speaker 3>and Kamala, But they really went because they wanted to

1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:50.120
<v Speaker 3>vote for her, and they were saying things like, well,

1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:52.680
<v Speaker 3>we haven't seen her, right, And so then it's like

1:00:53.240 --> 1:00:56.479
<v Speaker 3>vice presidents are really not like that prominent, like that's

1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:59.480
<v Speaker 3>not their job. They are supporting cast members, right. So

1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.919
<v Speaker 3>I think we just really got and it wasn't until

1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 3>she was stepping in as the actual nominee that she

1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:12.240
<v Speaker 3>could then go ahead and direct her way, and she

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:13.560
<v Speaker 3>just didn't have enough time in my life.

1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like she should get another shot at this?

1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean, I think that she should do

1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:25.080
<v Speaker 3>what she feels like is best. You know, one thing

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 3>that people don't really evaluate is the toll that all

1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:30.720
<v Speaker 3>of this takes on not only you but your family.

1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think, you.

1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Know, there were those that never thought that Joe Biden

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:39.920
<v Speaker 3>could win, and the third time was the charm. I

1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:45.160
<v Speaker 3>can't say what will happen, And honestly, I personally feel

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 3>like the only reason we ended up with Barack Obama

1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:51.800
<v Speaker 3>was because everything had fallen apart. And so depending on

1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:57.160
<v Speaker 3>how desperate people are, I think that it may absolutely

1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:04.240
<v Speaker 3>propel your not so likely candidate. I think that people,

1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:08.800
<v Speaker 3>potentially even misogynists, would like hold their nose and be

1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 3>like forget it.

1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Say like I got to do well.

1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was a lot of those, you know,

1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:16.000
<v Speaker 1>there were great stories about that that you know, you'd

1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:18.440
<v Speaker 1>hear these stories about Barack Obama's two thousand and eight campaign.

1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:22.919
<v Speaker 1>He'd go they'd have canvassers in western Pennsylvania and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>go to these doors that today are probably mega voters,

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<v Speaker 1>but in No. Eight they voted for Obama. And they

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<v Speaker 1>refer to Obama as the African American candidate, but they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't use African American and or black, and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to the point you just made, which is desperation sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>gets you know, this is what I You know Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Obama have this in common. Yes, right, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>hand there's a slice of voters who wanted massive change. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I go back. This is why I think ultimately Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama made a mistake endorsing Hillary Clinton. No offense to

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton. She certainly had earned a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and if this were at a job interview, she was

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<v Speaker 1>the most qualified person for the job. But you and

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<v Speaker 1>I both know it's not a job interview, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>a different type of deal. And I would argue that

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party picked Obama over Clinton because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want the establishment in charge, and that when he went

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<v Speaker 1>establishment that that may have been a fork in the road,

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<v Speaker 1>that if you now go back in time, that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he should have taken a different a different path.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you were making an argument for the situation that

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<v Speaker 3>we find ourselves in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean no, which is why I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely think new is going to be I always say this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at successful Democratic candidates for president, it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually they're the new candidate there, you know, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were not seen as the front runner at the start.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton was that way, Jimmy Carter was that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama is that way. There is you know, new

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<v Speaker 1>and electable, and it's subjective what electable is. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>and the thing that I can't figure out is who's

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<v Speaker 1>new because every name we're going to mention is not

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<v Speaker 1>new because we're mentioning their names, right, it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, people will mention Mark Cuban. I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you know Mark Cuban a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 1>most people, given he's a Dallas guy. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we if it's smart to go

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<v Speaker 1>with sort of Trump light, but you know, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, but I do think that we

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<v Speaker 3>won't truly have an idea of which way is going

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<v Speaker 3>to go until we really get closer to the election,

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<v Speaker 3>because I do believe the desperation is going to set in.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we will find out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are those that are like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 3>just got to take the house back, and you and

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<v Speaker 3>I have already discussed how these lines are not set

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<v Speaker 3>up for us. I mean, we are like an uphill

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<v Speaker 3>climb in a lot of these races that we really

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<v Speaker 3>should not be in. But even still, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to defy the odds. The question is that

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to defy the odds and have you know

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<v Speaker 3>three seats are we on? Are are we going to

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<v Speaker 3>buy the odds?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you have a working majority?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to have just a ton of people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that that will be our first and

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<v Speaker 3>then the Republicans will be given an opportunity to switch

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<v Speaker 3>back and maybe slow down, right because they're like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>this rat is big and it's going to continue on

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<v Speaker 3>two years after that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've got to go, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep you too long, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>dabble in Texas politics. You served in that Texas State House.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most fascinating political story that no one's

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to is, and you know these folks is

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership of the Texas House is a bipartisan is

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<v Speaker 1>the result of a bipartisan effort that it was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a rejection of the of the more right wing

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<v Speaker 1>elements of the Texas Republican Party. Is Texas a three

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<v Speaker 1>party state, meaning there's sort of two Republican parties, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the John Cornyn Party and the and the Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Paxtea Party version of it, and then there's the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my described it a bit cynically, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Correctly you are, as We're about to watch what happens

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<v Speaker 3>in this primary, and I think that it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting because all of the polling says that Paxton

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<v Speaker 3>is the one that's going to make it out of

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<v Speaker 3>that primary, and it's going to make the Republicans' ability

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<v Speaker 3>to win the Senate seat more difficult than it had

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you for sure that with almost absolute certainty,

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<v Speaker 3>if John Cornyan somehow managed to be the nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's put it this way. There's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of Dallas Republicans who haven't voted Republican for president, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing now since twenty twelve. Yeah, and they'll vote for

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<v Speaker 1>John Cornyn. They're voting for Ken Paxton, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, correct, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it'll be interesting to see how whichever

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<v Speaker 3>candidates emerge in that Senate race, how they decide to

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<v Speaker 3>play it. I think there's been this inclination to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of try to be like Republican esque, and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>worked so far. So I just I really don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that well, which path works?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, neither one of them worked, right. Beto didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Beto went in a different direction, got close

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<v Speaker 1>but lost. Colin Allred when in the hey, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a John Cornyn type, basically said, you know, he hugged

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<v Speaker 1>Cornan during that race against Cruse, which I think for

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<v Speaker 1>swing voters, I get it. I get that strategy too,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lost by more than Beto did. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think again, I hate to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you're talking about a tight vote and you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about tight election, that's when you're going to start

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<v Speaker 3>to get into vibes period. You just are because again

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<v Speaker 3>you have a certain portion of the electorate that does

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<v Speaker 3>not have the time to kind of dig into all

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<v Speaker 3>of the details.

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<v Speaker 1>And Betto broke through and Colin didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, Beto was able to energize so many people.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think he caught Cruise slippin' right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>Cruse wasn't into that he would have a real race,

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<v Speaker 3>so he had that advantage. But he outworked Cruise definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, the entire time. So I think that

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<v Speaker 3>Beto did what we needed done in that moment. At least,

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<v Speaker 3>which was to give us a little bit of hope,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was because of how well that he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He lost by three points. We know that Trump only

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<v Speaker 3>won the state by five points. Next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they want to change all the voting rules, right because

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<v Speaker 3>you end up running away with Texas. There is no

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<v Speaker 3>path for the Republicans to get into the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why it's really important that we make those investments.

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<v Speaker 3>Texas is the majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does the Demo? Why does the net look I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Floridian and I've watched the National Democratic Party pay

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<v Speaker 1>lip service to Florida Democrats for decades, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a catastrophic situation. I'm seeing the same set of

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<v Speaker 1>lip service was paid to I wonder if the moment's

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<v Speaker 1>been missed in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do think that we are missing out. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we need to get on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>and do the work. And that same election we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>we only had seventeen percent of the people turn out.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventeen percent of people.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't a registration issue. This was a turnout issue

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<v Speaker 1>in your correct right.

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<v Speaker 3>But like we also do these like tickets where it's

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<v Speaker 3>like that's always the only person that anybody was going

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<v Speaker 3>to vote for, Like there was nothing else that was

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<v Speaker 3>like exciting or jazzing them. So we do this thing

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like, oh, we've got one great candidate, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we don't do anything else. I told you about

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<v Speaker 3>people saying that they showed up and they voted for

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<v Speaker 3>Harris when they were voting for the ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to be more strategic about like not just oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let me put somebody who's Hispanic on this ticket, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get strong people to run who can appeal to

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<v Speaker 3>every portion of like our state. Like you can have

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<v Speaker 3>like people that are progressive and have people that are liberal,

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<v Speaker 3>and have people that are better at media than others,

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<v Speaker 3>have people that are black and Latino and Asian.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a large AAPI community.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that we've got to figure out, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>who will jazz up some folk, like who will get

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<v Speaker 3>them going? And frankly, black people have not been super jazzed.

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<v Speaker 3>Just be perfectly honest. We have more black people in

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Texas than any other state, and so

1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:12.760
<v Speaker 3>like figuring out how to turn them out. When they

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<v Speaker 3>won Georgia, you know what they had turnout way above

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen percent, right, And so that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we can get the turnout, we can win.

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<v Speaker 1>If Nico Harrison ran for office, how many could he

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<v Speaker 1>get elected to anything in Dallas? Right now? Now you

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<v Speaker 1>know how the Lucas situation is it? What of those?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's going to be something that leaves

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<v Speaker 1>a mark for years, for decades or on the maps?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, the fans were so supportive. We finally

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<v Speaker 3>were getting somewhere and were.

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<v Speaker 1>Relevant, you know. Yeah, yeah, But the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>matters in Dallas is the Cowboys, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately, they don't play in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 3>So wow, that's all I'm gonna say on that they

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<v Speaker 3>don't play.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well, well, the only people that play in Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>are the stars in the maps. So that's Dallas's only

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<v Speaker 1>teams in your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't Yeah, yep, they're the ones that play in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well they're your constituents, that's for sure. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>running for oversight ranking? For sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I was pretty sure I was in.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got a phone call from a member that

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<v Speaker 3>may complicate my pathway.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you could give a keem Jeffries one piece

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<v Speaker 1>of advice, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that a piece of advice would be to

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<v Speaker 3>embrace all portions of are Caucus as as Democrats as

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<v Speaker 3>a whole, and make sure that we have implies.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think he has been what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's been too? Do you think he's been too trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be too strategic?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I think we focused on being kind

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<v Speaker 3>of completely unified, and I think what works in one

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<v Speaker 3>district doesn't necessarily work in another district. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>being seen is given permission for everyone to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>be what they have to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe have a debate, go ahead and let it be

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<v Speaker 1>in public a little bit. Look, this is what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson Robe. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a big, loud debate, and guess what, the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>didn't lose the popular vote but twice in the next

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll see, but I've got to run.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate well, I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll be bugging you again in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope you enjoyed that interview with Jasmine Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I'm gonna have a couple other interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with some other Democrats pitching their ideas on this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>how Democrats should be doing it, how Democrats should be

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<v Speaker 1>handling it. So take notes here and tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>you and then as we get more it'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to compare and contrast the different conversations as you've already had,

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<v Speaker 1>how various Democrats want to handle this moment. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>before I go, let me do a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>Ask Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do one question and it's a terrific question,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a question I've had in my back of

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<v Speaker 1>my head for a while. Now. This comes from Peter Quebec.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I pronounced your name right, Peter, your last name,

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<v Speaker 1>And it starts a mirror After the Supreme Court decision

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<v Speaker 1>which largely struck down Roe v. Wade, conventional wisdom from politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>news outlets, and analysts held that abortion was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the north star for Democrats, that it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to rouse not only the base but women overall, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was touted as what would propel Aamala Harris to

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<v Speaker 1>victory in twenty twenty four. However, after the election, abortion

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<v Speaker 1>basically disappeared as any kind of issue or talking point.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard it mentioned on any of the Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>talk shows since November, and none of the numerous political

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts I listened to left or right have discussed it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think has happened if Democrats abandoned abortion

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<v Speaker 1>as a cause. So I don't think they've abandoned the cause,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will tell you this when, and this has

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<v Speaker 1>been true of cultural and social issues for some time,

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<v Speaker 1>that when economic issues are front and center, all everything

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<v Speaker 1>else goes by the wayside. Most cultural issues go by

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<v Speaker 1>the wayside. Usually if abortion's being talked about front and center,

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<v Speaker 1>it means the economy is not going is going fine? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>When the economy is good, that's when there's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a focus on cultural issues. So I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a temporary sort of respite on

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion issue, because the facts are the facts. Right

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<v Speaker 1>wherever it's been on the ballot, wherever it's it is

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<v Speaker 1>a central issue, there's only one side that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>to be winning public opinion here. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's lost its residence, but I do think Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>a little spooked by it because they looked like that

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<v Speaker 1>they were not focused on the economy. Right, There's been

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that it's you either focus on the economy

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<v Speaker 1>or you focus on personal liberty issues. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's why you've seen so many Democrats lately

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<v Speaker 1>not do it. I suspect though, that you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you in Virginia you'll see it pop up. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling by the fall, in the two campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>in Virginia and in New Jersey, that the issue will

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<v Speaker 1>come up. Will it be number one issue advertised? Probably not,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will be I think much more, much more

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<v Speaker 1>prevalent in the campaign conversation then you're seeing it now.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an excellent point. There was a good column

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<v Speaker 1>I think of the Washington Post. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Cain wrote a pretty smart column about this a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago about how it does seem as if

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<v Speaker 1>for now that the issue is not top of mind

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<v Speaker 1>for Democrats and there isn't a champion. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think this is somewhat temporary. I think you'll

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<v Speaker 1>start to see you're still going to see an attempt

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<v Speaker 1>wherever possible to get it on the ballot and be

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<v Speaker 1>a referendum and things like that. So my guess is

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<v Speaker 1>we're just in a lull on this issue more than

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. I'm going to keep questions there on that

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<v Speaker 1>because this has been a long episode. Number one, number two,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time for everybody that listens. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to provide all your positive mojo because Monday night is

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Draft Lottery, and you've got to understand Washington

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<v Speaker 1>d C. I know that some people may not be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of this, but Washington DC does have an NBA franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Washington Wizards. A bunch of us missed

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<v Speaker 1>the old Washington Bullets because at least the Bullets won.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get into the change. It was

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<v Speaker 1>named after the bullet train back in the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>Silver Bullet Train, but the name was changed because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to have any any connection whatsoever to any

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<v Speaker 1>form of guns on that front. But I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us have ever really embraced the Wizards. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's it's a it's a it's a tough you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no commanders, but it's it's never been. At least

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<v Speaker 1>it's got a literation, right. That's about all it has

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<v Speaker 1>on that front. But if we can win the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Lottery, we've won the Wizards have won it twice once.

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<v Speaker 1>We we had it when Michael Jordan was running this

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<v Speaker 1>franchise and he drafted a high school kid that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite he had a good career, but it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise saver, Kwame Brown. And then we got it when

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<v Speaker 1>we got John Wall. And John Wall, as my friend

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Cohenheiger will tell you, he was good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get the Wizards to game six. He won Game six

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<v Speaker 1>in a conference semifinal, and and then didn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>for Game seven against the Celtics, and the Wizard's dream

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<v Speaker 1>of making a conference of losing a conference final to

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron in his last year in the Eastern Conference was

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<v Speaker 1>denied on that front. But if the Wizards can win

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<v Speaker 1>it Cooper Flag. They've actually been putting together to the

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<v Speaker 1>credit of this Wizard's franchise, and they've been actually making

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<v Speaker 1>some decent moves over the last eighteen months. They seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be having a decent group of players that with

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Flag, they could be awfully interesting and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. So all I'm asking all of your Mojo,

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<v Speaker 1>let's you know you don't want we don't need Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Flag going to San Antonio. They got Wemby. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need Cooper Flag going at Utah. Danny Age is too

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<v Speaker 1>smart to let that franchise languish. Okay, the Wizards need

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<v Speaker 1>the help. They've not won fifty games. I think ever

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. They've never won fifty games. They've won

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA title once. They've been to two NBA Finals,

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<v Speaker 1>but in neither year do they actually win fifty games.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just asking just a little bit. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have your own team, you may have your

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<v Speaker 1>own preference of where you want Cooper Flag to go.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wizards could really use it, and the NBA could

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<v Speaker 1>really use a franchise in Washington, DC that's actually successful.

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<v Speaker 1>All right with that, Hopefully the next time we talk,

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Flag is about to become a Washington Wizard. Until

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<v Speaker 1>we upload the game,