1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Monday, December twenty second. Gavin Newsom 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: is scum. Jd Vance is an assassin. Donald Trump is 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: dashing and handsome, and white women, go ahead, be proud 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: of your white skin, your blonde hair, and your blue eyes. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: All of that said at the Turning Point USA conference 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: in Phoenix. Maybe no surprise those words were uttered on stage. 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: A surprise and even shocked to sum Is who said 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: all that, and with that, welcome to this episode of 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. I guess some people be surprised ropes 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: that those words came from a very prominent African American 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: artist at this conference. 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Yes, we're talking about rapper Nicki Minaj, who has never 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: been shy about her words and her thoughts and what 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: she thinks about things and people, and she certainly let 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: it all out on stage at Turning Point USA. 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: I have to say. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: I was surprised that might be an understatement and immediately 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: wanted to do a deep dive on Wait, at what 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: point did Nicki Minaj become a huge Trump supporter? 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: It was fifteen minutes ago. It hasn't been long. She's 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: been a long time critic of this administration of President 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: Trump and this has just happened in recent days. I 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: don't want to and we should start with this, she had. 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: Everybody has their own opinions. Knock yourself out, you love 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: President Trump, knock yourself out if you do think he's 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: dashing in handsome, we'll share that quote here in just 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: a second. Knock yourself out, you like his policies, knock 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: yourself out. There is no criticism here necessarily. The surprise 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: is who is uttering these words and where she is 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: uttering him because ropes. We are not used to seeing 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: a very diverse crowd in a maga crowd, that's just true. 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: But to have this prominent of a black voice speaking 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: like this there, Yeah, of course it got attention, Yes. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: Very much so, and it was interesting hearing her. It 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: seemed to me. 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: We both listened to her entire time on stage, and 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: it's very much faith based. 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: She is proud to be a Christian woman. 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: She felt compelled, she says, to speak up and to 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 2: speak out when she has been watching the Christians being 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: persecuted in Nigeria. She saw the Trump administration was taking 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: a stance against that. And I think that's what she claims, well, 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: at least what she said pushed her over the edge 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: to become more public about how she feels about this 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: administration and being able to speak her truth and celebrate 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: her faith and talk about where she is politically. 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: And when you hear her explain and explain her life 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: and her being a kid and going to church every 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: week and how that kind of shaped her, you listened 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: to her, and all those things can be very legitimate arguments. Again, no, 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: nobody's taking her on for having her views. It still 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: came to a lot of people a little stunning to 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: hear some of the things, in particular having to do 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: with white women. The thing she has, obviously she has 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: a beef with Gavin Newsome. A lot of people are 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: familiar with that, but she did have And the thing 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: that got a lot of headlines is there was a 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: pretty It was just a mistake she made, but it 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: was a very uncomfortable mistake she made. And we'll give 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: you the full details here in a second, but she 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: did in speaking, she's called JD. Vance an assassin. We'll 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: give you the context in a second, but it was 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: just a really awkward moment. 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Look, a lot of people referred to vice presidents as bulldogs. 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: We've definitely heard that's the role of the vice president. 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: The president gets to be the statesman gets to be 67 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: the president. The vice president is the one who's out 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: there fighting the fights, and so I know that's where 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: her head was. But of all words to use assassin 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: sitting across from Erica Kirk in a crowd of folks 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: who were there and huge obviously ardent supporters of Charlie Kirk, 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: who was we don't even need to remind you assassinated 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: just a few months ago. 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: It was awkward, tough. We'll give you all the details there. 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: That was. So that was it was tough. As I 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: was looking, because I'd read it several times and several 77 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: places I fast forwarded through it. It was so uncomfortable. 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I did not even listen to her get those words out. 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: So I was actually running and was listening to it. 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: So I wasn't watching it, but I was listening to it, 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: and she you could tell she was mortified. I mean, 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: there was just this silence, and I do have to 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: give Erica Kirk credit. She she filled the space with 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: kindness and grace and just said, I know you, I know. 85 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 3: Your heart, don't worry. 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: People have said the craziest things around me. You know, 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: I know you're a child of God and God is good, 88 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: and so she just she filled it up, got the 89 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: crowd going supporting her, clapping, but you could tell Nicki 90 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: Minaj was mortified. 91 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you were listening to it there, it will 92 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: get into it. But she reacted in such a way 93 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: like you felt they actually feel bad for her. Head 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: went down. She realized she had made that mistake. But 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: what were if You'll probably seen a lot of coverage 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Turning Point USA does his annual conference. 97 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: Of course, Charlie clirk kirk first time he's not has 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: main of course because of his death, but his wife, 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: of course, Erica Kirk is widow, has been taking the 100 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: lead now. She mentioned that in years past, Charlie Kirk 101 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: was known to always bringing in a surprise guest, and 102 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: she was the surprise this year. Nicki Minaj, twelve time 103 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: Grammy nominee hit maker who's been doing this for fifteen 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: plus years now, really one of the most prominent, certainly 105 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: female rappers, and one of the most successful that we 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: have seen in this particular era. She is a staple 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: in music. She is a she's huge in the black community. 108 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: She's huge in the mainstream. I think crossover a lot 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: of ways with the lot of young women with a 110 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: lot of her theme songs, right star shims. She's a 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: big She's a big damg oh my gosh. 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Still, over the past recent months at least, she has 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: been getting into it a public one side. It's spat 115 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: with Governor Newsom. She has decided to take him on 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. He's not necessarily take making the bait fully, 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: but she has got a lot to say about him. 118 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: And that's how the events started when she got on 119 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: stage of there Kirk. 120 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and look, it's it's tough because this 121 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: is a conversation about a lot of it was about faith, 122 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: and a lot of it was about lifting people up. 123 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: And yet to then hear her and certainly we've heard 124 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: Trump do the same, tear down his political rival, and 125 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: not just say I don't like his policies. 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 127 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: It gets mean spirited, and she was towing the Trump 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: line on Gavin Newsom, name calling, making fun of. 129 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Which I'm okay with as an entertainer. Knock yourself out. 130 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't like it. 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: But it's certainly if it's coming out of her mouth. 132 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm not as upset if it's coming out of my 133 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: president's mouth. Name calling. But yes, this was in line, 134 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: but it felt like Kerrik Kirk knew what she was 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: doing and was trying to get a particular something out 136 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: of it. But the first thing she had to ask 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: her about was Governor Newsom. I guess Robes would say 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: what set her off. It was the issue of trans Yes, yes, 139 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: that Governor Newsom's his stand. She took issue with that 140 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: in recent months and has been going after him pretty 141 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: hard on Twitter. And Erica Kirk started out at the 142 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: beginning asking her about Governor Newsom. She immediately called him 143 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: new scum, but asked her to read her tweets, which 144 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: she did in a very classic Nicki minaj way. 145 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: Yes, should we read them? Tweet number one from Nicki Minaje. 146 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids. Haha, 147 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: Not even a trans adult would run on that. Normal 148 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: adults wake up and think they want to see healthy, safe, 149 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: happy kids. 150 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: Send in the next guy. I'm bored again. 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: She has her doing a dramatic reading of her own 152 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: tweets is what at the top, and then she had 153 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: to read another one in which she said, oh, Gabby Pooh, 154 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: it only gets worse from here for you, buddy. It's 155 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: the end of the road for you, my love. Get 156 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: on the nearest jet ski and let that beautiful hair 157 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: blow in the wind. It will make you happier than 158 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: this race that you will not win. Enjoy live peace. 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Piece on that one. This is a second one here, 160 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: next one. But she was almost this is how Nicki 161 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Minaj talks, and she gets it to a lot of 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: beefs online with a lot of people, it feels. But 163 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: she's a rapper, it's what she does, and a good 164 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: writer and a pretty good poet. But her tone and 165 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: that she's insulting you but giving you a cold Gabby 166 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: pooh kind of a thing. But she read though. That's 167 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: how they started, now or robes. They continued along. How 168 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: long did they take? She was only up there thirty 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: minutes and they spent the first what on Gavin Newsom? 170 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, I feel like dominated at least the first third, 171 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: maybe even half of the conversation that she had. And look, 172 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: they know what they're doing, they know that they already 173 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: have they're already setting setting the path forward for the Republicans. 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: We've already heard Erica Kirk say that she is supporting 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: jd Vance to be the twenty twenty eight Republican I 176 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: guess the candidate, and so, yes, we all know Gavin 177 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: Newsom right now is a front runner on the Democratic side, 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, why not go ahead and take aim at 179 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: your biggest political rival on that stage. 180 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: That's exactly what they were doing with. 181 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: A name that many people didn't expect necessarily be up 182 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: there doing. 183 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: So what has there been reaction in the black community 184 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: about what Nicki Minaj had to say or about her 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: support for President Trump. 186 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: There's reaction, There's sometimes the rolling of the eyes, but 187 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: sometimes people can be Look, Nicki Minaj has had a foothole. 188 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: She has been very much successful because of a lot 189 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: of black support she has gotten. Maybe a lot of 190 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: people don't understand know her views, but to some black 191 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: folks this will feel like there's this idea in the 192 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: black community that you can't be a couple of things. 193 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: You can't be a Republican and when I was growing up, 194 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: you can't be gay. Those are two things you're always told. 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: So to hear someone still those old ideas of you 196 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: just automatically see a black person and you can't be 197 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: a Republican or a conservative. That's silly. Obviously that's silly. 198 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: But still she came out and was so effusive in 199 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: her praise of this president in a way that has 200 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: people scratching their heads and wondering if she up to 201 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: something else, because there's no way she can believe the 202 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: shit's coming out of our mouth. 203 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Really yeah, wow. 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: She's got Is this a play for trying to get 205 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: that support, trying to stay relevant, trying to do so. 206 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: That are the accusations that will remain out there, but 207 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to leave open the possibility that 208 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: she is sincere in what she's doing. But when she 209 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: was asked about the president and vice president, what are 210 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: the things you have learned about these two? This is 211 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: where it gets into when you hear the answer like wait. 212 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: What Yes, this was probably the most shocking to your 213 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: point what you just said. This is the perfect setup 214 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: for her answer. Nicki Minasch said, I have the utmost 215 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: respect and administration, sorry, admiration for our president. 216 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: Boom, huge applause. 217 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: He's given so many people hope that there is a 218 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: chance to beat the bad guys and to win, and 219 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: to do it with your head held high and your 220 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: integrity intact. 221 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: That's what she believes, is what she believes. Did you 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: look at that? And for a lot of people, I 223 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: don't know, just folks will have a difficult time understanding 224 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: how she gets there, and I guess you have to. 225 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: She has every right to her opinion, of course, but 226 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: we're just not used to this type of strong, full 227 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: throated support coming from such a prominent member of the 228 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: black community. 229 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Yes, and also it should be of note that Nicki Minaj, 230 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: I mean we've talked, we brushed on a little bit, 231 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: used to be very critical of the Trump administration, and 232 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: namely one of her big beefs was she came to 233 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: this country as an illegal. 234 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: Immigrant Trinidad at Tobago. 235 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: So she understands, in a way a lot of us 236 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: cannot what it's like to be in this country illegally, 237 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: and so that was part of you. So it's it's 238 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: interesting to see this massive transformation this one eighty. She 239 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: had lyrics about Trump and some of her earlier music 240 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: so anti Trump. So it's interesting to see her come 241 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: around and not just say you know what, I get 242 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: what he's doing. 243 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: I appreciate what he's doing. 244 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: His policies might not be for everybody, but I understand 245 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: she is being effusive to the point where it's head scratching. 246 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Again, she said. She mentioned at some point here she 247 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: said people can change their minds, and that's true. That 248 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely truth. This is a this is a hell 249 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: of a one eighty in a very short period of time. 250 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: She went on, The administration is full of people with 251 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: heart and soul, and they make me proud of them. Again, 252 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't think she has a relationship with the White House. 253 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: I don't think she knows them personally. But that is 254 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: a strong statement. The next one there, that's that's one 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: that's hard for some people to get their head around, 256 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: especially coming out of the mouth of a black woman. 257 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: She says, they have an uncanny ability to be someone 258 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: that you relate to. I can relate to them when 259 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: I hear them speak, I know that they're one of us. 260 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: Okay, she's speaking through her experience, sure, I suppose, and 261 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: based on what her life has been she might look 262 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: at them and say, I can relate. I can tell 263 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: they're one of us, like me. Nicki Minaj. We didn't 264 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: know as a community that Nicki Minaje regarded herself like that. 265 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know she would ever look, and I didn't 266 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: know that. I'm learning a lot about her in this 267 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: and again I am fully taking her at her word 268 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: and being sincere at everything she said. 269 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: Yep, and talking about the administration, she went on to say, 270 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: they have the ability to still connect and be real 271 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: and make us feel proud to be an American. And look, 272 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Erica kirk asked her directly about backlash from her industry. 273 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: She didn't say community, but she's at industry and certainly 274 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: that's the music industry, which tends to largely be perhaps 275 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: more on the side of liberal politics versus conservative. So 276 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: she actually I actually liked her answer, and it set 277 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: Erica Kirk off too, and they had a very fun 278 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: connective moment when she asked, you're getting backlash from your 279 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: own industry. 280 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: What's your reaction to that? 281 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: Nicki minaj very quickly and confidently said, I didn't notice. 282 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: It was my favorite moment. First, I liked it all 283 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: typical Nikki right there. That was good stuff. That was 284 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: good stuff. 285 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: Look, she seemed incredibly authentic. You know, I don't know 286 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: her that, well, I haven't. I haven't watched her that. 287 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I love her music and I know 288 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: of her, but listening to her it all, it didn't 289 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: seem performative. It seemed as if she was speaking to 290 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: the heart. That's just that was my initial impression. 291 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: I didn't find much of it. I didn't find her 292 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: necessarily putting on a different tone to her, given I'm 293 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: used to her in different circles hip hop circles. Yes, 294 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: different language, it's totally different. But she was I to 295 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: your I would absolutely suggest the same. Now, the thing, 296 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: there were a couple of things that really really got 297 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people's attention. We mentioned at the top. 298 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: There were two in particular rope. She was asked about 299 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: motherhood and young boys and young girls, and she gave 300 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: an answer having to do with one white women and 301 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: white girls shouldn't be shy and should speak up and 302 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: be proud of their beauty. That was one. But the 303 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: other big issue I got a lot of headlines is 304 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: because it was a sincere gaff in which she called J. 305 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: D Vance an assassin, and she said it sitting only 306 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: feet away from Erica Kirk. Stay here, we'll explain both 307 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: of those moments. 308 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone. 309 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: We are talking about Nicki Minaj making a big old 310 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: splash at Turning Point USA. She was a surprise guest 311 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: of Erica Kirk's and she surprised a lot of us, 312 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: in fact, well at large, a large percentage of the population. 313 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: The headlines you can see them this morning. 314 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: People are not only surprised that Nicki Minaj was so 315 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: support of President Trump and his administration and very just 316 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: the effusive actually in her descriptions of them, but also 317 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: what she had to say about Jade Vance and also 318 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: about what she had to say about white women. 319 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: I have to say my ears perked up. 320 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: I mentioned I was running and I was listening to 321 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: this while and that part obviously really got my attention. 322 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: It is not something that I was expecting to hear. 323 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: And this is what she said. She was asked, particularly, 324 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: asked about motherhood, asked about a message she maybe had 325 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: to young girls and young boys, and she started by 326 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about young girls, saying, quote, if as if as 327 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: black women, we felt as if we were not being 328 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: represented and not being admired for our beauty. If we 329 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: felt like that as black women, why would we want 330 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: to do that to other women. Why would we now 331 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: need to make other people downplay their beauty. That's not 332 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: how it works. I don't need someone with blonde hair 333 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know 334 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: my beauty. It doesn't bother me that a woman feels 335 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: and says that she is beautiful. Why wouldn't she feel that? 336 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Why have we gotten to the point where certain colors 337 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: or certain kinds of people have to be afraid of 338 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: loving themselves and the way they look. I'm gonna stop 339 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: right there for a second. Es I mean, she's yes, 340 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: I agree with just about all that. 341 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: I agree with everything she said. I appreciated that she 342 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: said it, and all my mind went straight to with 343 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney. I was thinking, and maybe I'm wrong, but 344 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking that she might be loosely referencing that 345 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: or using what happened to Sidney Sweeney as the taking 346 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: off point to talk about let's let people be able 347 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: to celebrate who they are and what they look like, 348 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: no matter what race they are. 349 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Here's the thing I agree with all of that. It 350 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: lacked context, and it lacked context that most black women 351 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: immediately and hearing that were probably shouting at the TV 352 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: when they heard it because there is context to what 353 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: we are saying. Yes, every woman should embrace their beauty, 354 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: their unique whatever it may be, the hair color, that color, 355 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: the hip side, whatever it may be. The problem is 356 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: that too many other folks that are in control of advertising, 357 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: how we see ourselves, think about ourselves, the money we spend, 358 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: the money we make, who gets hired and fired is 359 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: based on a standard of beauty that belongs exclusively to 360 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: white women. That is the context that was missing in there. 361 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: But I can't we should all agree with that sentiment. Yes, 362 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I agree. 363 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: She went on to say, I don't want what was 364 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: done to little black girls done to little white girls. 365 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: I want all little girls in the world to know 366 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: that you are unique, you are beautiful. You can compliment 367 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: another girl, another woman, and still know you are epic 368 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: and amazing. And I appreciate your point what you just said, 369 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: the context that was missing, but I also appreciate the 370 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: fact that she said that. 371 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: I do think that it does create. 372 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: An opportunity for a conversation to be had that when 373 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: you start with that premise, then you can get into 374 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: those other details where I think people might be more 375 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: willing to go I see what you mean. 376 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: I see what you mean. 377 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: Because they feel heard, or they feel seen, or they 378 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: at least feel recognized that there is this idea that 379 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: everybody should be treated and that's this perfect world with 380 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: a certain level of respect. But yes, that context is necessary, 381 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: that there is a reason why some voices need to 382 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: be heard more than others, at least given the history 383 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: and the current situation. 384 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like red meat to a particular crowd. 385 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: But it would have been really easy if President Trump 386 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: was delivering the same he would have said it in 387 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: a different way. And some conservatives say it differently. But 388 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: you're just saying none wrong with being white. Yeah, white 389 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: is awesome. She's not saying it that way. But she's saying, yes, 390 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: who Sidney, you white girl, you, Hispanic girl, you Asian girl, everybody. 391 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she actually called out all She actually said all 392 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: of those. 393 00:19:59,359 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: And here is the this take us now to what 395 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: was the awkward, most uncomfortable and unfortunate moment. Really, she's 396 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: trying to make a statement there and trying to be 397 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: complimentary to the White House and to the administration into 398 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: some officials, and she just misspoke. I was wondering if 399 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: she misspoke. On the first part of this, in which 400 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: she was complimenting President Trump, she made a little face. 401 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: She was being cute. But you read that and you're like, 402 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: come on, Nikki, really not to say he's not a 403 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: dashing and handsome man. 404 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because she was making fun of Gavin 405 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: Newsom for his you know, his hair and his dashing 406 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: good looks. I think she even said, you think your 407 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: tom cruise except your next mission is impossible. 408 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: You know, she was saying all of that. 409 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: So, yes, this was interesting because Erica Kirk said, look, 410 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm the mother of boys. You have boys, please speak 411 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: to young men as well, And so Nicki Minaj said, 412 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: as for young men, don't be new scum young men. 413 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: You have amazing role models like our handsome, dashing president, 414 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: and you have amazing role models like the assassin jd Vance. 415 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: It's tough. And she almost immediately she stopped. She stopped, 416 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: and you were listening. I was looking at her. She 417 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: stopped and just looked mortified. I mean, she didn't completely 418 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: emote with her face. It just went I mean, if 419 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: she wasn't black, it might have gone white, like just 420 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: pale in that moment. And she put her hand up 421 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: and put it over her mouth, and she was so 422 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: I think she was so embarrassed because she know who 423 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: she's sitting in front of, right, and she knew that 424 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: moment and Erica, this is one you said it Robes. 425 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Give Erica Kirk credit for just trying to help her 426 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: out of really an impossible situation. She just used the 427 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: word assassin in front of Erica Kirk. 428 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 429 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, for at least Nicki Minaj, anything that she 430 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: was trying to say or do or be come a 431 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: part of, or change the narrative up, it didn't matter 432 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: because every single headline today was about that. And you 433 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: know what, Look, anyone who has been in the public, 434 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: anyone who has spoken publicly or even repeatedly, has had 435 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: to you are going to make a mistake. 436 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: You are going to say something you didn't mean to say. 437 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: A word could slip out that you didn't mean. All 438 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: of that can happen. 439 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: So my heart went out to her in that moment 440 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: because it was an honest, genuine mistake. 441 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: She did not mean to use that one. 442 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: It was just an unfortunate one. And look, it's looks 443 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: she's a rapper in hip hop. The slang is thrown 444 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: around plenty, calling somebody ass it's a compliment. He's a 445 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: at a term, he's a killer. Yeah, you can go 446 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: after and eliminate targets. He's an assassin, right, That language 447 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: is thrown around. She was using. Possibly that's where her 448 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: head was. Who knows what was going on up there, 449 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: but she knows it was the wrong word. Look, I 450 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: appreciate I will say this about black folk. I do 451 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: not like, and we don't like when other folks outside 452 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: of our community try to box us in and say 453 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: we're all this or we're all that, and we all 454 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: like this music, I like this politics, I like this church, 455 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: or like whatever. Maybe we hate that. So I also 456 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: equally hate when black folks put each other into a 457 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: box to where we can't have a diversity of ideas, 458 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: like how dare you support that president? How dare you 459 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: have that view on that issue? So I look, you 460 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: can think what you want about Nicki Minaj, but I 461 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: just I don't like dismissing people just because their views 462 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily exactly what somebody thinks should be in line 463 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: with the African American community. And how can you support 464 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: this guy giving what he's done to the minority communities, 465 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: all those things. We can have that debate. I just 466 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: don't think folks should be dismissed immediately just because you 467 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: might have a view that's not like the rest. So 468 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: for that, I will at least give Nicki Minage credit 469 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: for having us have this conversation. Other people say, y'all 470 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: are nuts. She's just doing this trying to remain relevant, 471 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: or she wants something, or she's trying something their sinx. 472 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate what you just said, because I think 473 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: if more people can have that attitude about all the 474 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: different opinions they have and just because someone may look 475 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: a certain way, it doesn't mean we can assume they 476 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: think a certain way. And I think that's a really 477 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: good way to go about life, actually, and to give 478 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: people that credit and give them that right to have 479 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: their own, unique formed opinions that don't have to fall 480 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: in line with where they were born, where they were from, 481 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: with the color of their skin, is what part of 482 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: the country they live in. We can all we all 483 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: have the right to think and believe what we think 484 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: is best for ourselves and our families. And so for that, yes, 485 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj stood up and she owned it. 486 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: We shall see. I'm very curious to see what happens 487 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: with her moving forward. This is in her heart, but yeah, 488 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: it is just because of who it is and what 489 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: she looks like and is not the norm when it 490 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: comes to supporting this president. 491 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: It got too much, all right, And with that everyone, 492 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: thank you for listening to us. I'm maybe Roebuck alongside TJ. 493 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.