WEBVTT - Week of Action to Stop Cop City, Part Three: Midweek Actions

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<v Speaker 1>Come Monday morning, Basically no one was in the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>The police raid the night prior pushed out most of

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<v Speaker 1>the people gathered for the music festival and week of action,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was still unclear how the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>week would now proceed. This Monday happened to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish holiday Porum. Initially there were plans to have a

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<v Speaker 1>Perum celebration in the forest that evening, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>unknown if people would feel comfortable returning to the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode three of my mini series covering the

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<v Speaker 1>March twenty twenty three Week of Action to defend the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Forest. Monday, March sixth also happened to be the

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<v Speaker 1>day of an Atlanta City Council meeting, and the Stopcop

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<v Speaker 1>City Clergy coalition held a well attended press conference at

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<v Speaker 1>noon outside City Hall. Reverend on To Jones opened up

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<v Speaker 1>at the press conference by making the Clergy's position clear.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the Faith Coalition against Cop City, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are here to again raise our voices so that Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Dickens and the members of the City Council of

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta know that we will not stand for the atrocities

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<v Speaker 2>that have been occurring. We will not stand for cop

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<v Speaker 2>City to go forward. The community came out and made

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<v Speaker 2>public comment for over seventeen hours when given an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and said emphatically, no, we don't want your cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want more repression of black people. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want more polluted air, we don't want less green space

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<v Speaker 2>in our community. We don't want more policing and terrorizing

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<v Speaker 2>of black, brown, indigenous bodies in our community.

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<v Speaker 1>Referend To Jones gave her own perspective as a local

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<v Speaker 1>atlant with deep ties to the city.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are here as faith leaders today and we

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<v Speaker 2>are here to say, Mayor Dickens, if you didn't hear

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<v Speaker 2>us the first time, we are here once again to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know that we don't want cop City. This

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<v Speaker 2>is our community, this is our land. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>daughter of East Atlanta. I still live in East Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want cop City. My granny owns a home

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<v Speaker 2>that she's been in for almost fifty years in the

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<v Speaker 2>heart of East Atlanta Village. She does not want cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>My neighbor across the street does not want cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>The teachers at my daughter's school do not want Cop City.

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<v Speaker 1>She also addressed the outside agitator's narrative that police and

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<v Speaker 1>media have continued to craft against force defenders, including by

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<v Speaker 1>only arresting and charging people thought to be from out

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<v Speaker 1>of town at the music festival that previous night.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're here today to make sure that we ring

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<v Speaker 2>the alarm and dispel the false narrative that it's outside

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<v Speaker 2>agitators who don't want this. We know that this is

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<v Speaker 2>the rhetoric that's been going on ever since abolition began,

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<v Speaker 2>that it's outside agitators. They said slaves didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be free, but it was white people from the North

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<v Speaker 2>who wanted it. That's a lie. They said that black

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<v Speaker 2>people in the South didn't want civil rights, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was white people from the North. That's a lie. Today

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<v Speaker 2>they are claiming that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Black people love Cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>It's outside agitators from elsewhere, and that again is a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Simply because the police have chosen to systematically arrest people

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<v Speaker 2>from out of state doesn't mean that what they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>is the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Leoshe addressed to other faith leaders and asked them

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<v Speaker 1>to join in their calls to stop the Cop City project.

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<v Speaker 4>We local Atlantic clergy and religious leaders representing diverse communities

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<v Speaker 4>call on clergy, religious leaders and people of faith and

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<v Speaker 4>moral conscience across this nation and in solidarity with local

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta leaders, to stop cop City, stop the swap, and

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<v Speaker 4>defend the Atlanta forests. Wilani People's part. Today, we're gathered

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<v Speaker 4>for this press conference and we will be delivering a

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<v Speaker 4>letter to Atlanta City Council.

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<v Speaker 3>But we invite you to.

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<v Speaker 4>Continue in this faithful work that we are doing and

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<v Speaker 4>contribute wherever you find your space in this growing movement.

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<v Speaker 4>We call on clergy religious leaders, who are a moral

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<v Speaker 4>authority in our society, to use your power in support

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<v Speaker 4>of the forest protectors. We are deeply concerned for the

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<v Speaker 4>greater Atlanta community and the implications for the future of

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<v Speaker 4>public safety in the United States if Copsuity moves forward.

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<v Speaker 1>At the press conference, the coalition presented a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>the City Council signed by over two hundred clergy members.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Leoshe also read it aloud.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite a record breaking amount of public comment opposing the facility,

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta City councils still passed legislation to build Copcity. We

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<v Speaker 4>are troubled by leadership that stops acting on the will

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<v Speaker 4>of the people and aligns itself instead with corporate money

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<v Speaker 4>and the dominant power structure. Urged on by the message

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<v Speaker 4>of peace and compassion in all our faiths, we deplore

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<v Speaker 4>escalating militarization by city and state government, most recently since

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<v Speaker 4>the police killing of Rayshard Brooks here in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>by the Atlanta Police Department and Tortugita January eighteenth of

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<v Speaker 4>this year by Georgia Patrol. We applaud the rising consciousness

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<v Speaker 4>and the need to protect humans and the more than

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<v Speaker 4>human by resisting police violence everywhere. And may I add

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<v Speaker 4>that in the face of the violent raid that took

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<v Speaker 4>place last night, as city residents gathered in solidarity to

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<v Speaker 4>defend this forest, that is an example of the militarization

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<v Speaker 4>that we are calling out. Through violence and greed, these

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<v Speaker 4>lands have been subjected to centuries of abuse, from the

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<v Speaker 4>forced removal of indigenous communities, to serving as a plantation

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<v Speaker 4>for enslaved African labor, to the site of the old

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta Prison honor Farm in the twentieth century that produced

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<v Speaker 4>immense profits for the prison system.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, the sounds of berg.

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<v Speaker 4>Song from the forest Canopy live alongside the sound of

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<v Speaker 4>gunfire and the adjacent APD firing range.

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<v Speaker 3>We are troubled.

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<v Speaker 4>By the commodification of community, land, water, and air on

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<v Speaker 4>which all of us depend. We are profoundly troubled by

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<v Speaker 4>the use of military tactics and escalated legal charges on

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<v Speaker 4>members of our community, suppressing legitimate resistance, while at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time clearcutting the forest trees despite not having the

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<v Speaker 4>appropriate permits. The lands and the people of Atlanta have

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<v Speaker 4>suffered violence for too long. We say no more. We

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<v Speaker 4>declare with faith, commitment and hope that this land will

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of healing and repair. We Atlanta clergy,

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<v Speaker 4>religious leaders, and all of those across the nation and

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<v Speaker 4>world who are in agreement join our voices with calling

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<v Speaker 4>for the following, a complete stop of the cop City

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<v Speaker 4>project and cancelation of the Atlanta Police Foundation's lease, dropping

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<v Speaker 4>all charges against forest defenders and protesters. We demand an

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<v Speaker 4>independent investigation into the uses of domestic terrorism charges. We

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<v Speaker 4>demand an independent investigation into the killing of Manuel Tehran Tortugita.

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<v Speaker 4>We speak their name, for which recently release video footage

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<v Speaker 4>of the event suggests there was lying and deceit surrounding

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<v Speaker 4>the incident. On part of law enforcement in their initial

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<v Speaker 4>reporting of the incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The Muskogee elder Miko Chabbon, Colonel spoke at the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference and called for a land back and for the

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<v Speaker 1>Muskogee people to return and remtreat the Wilani Forest in

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<v Speaker 1>community with the black and brown residents of the area.

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<v Speaker 5>Our ancestors lived here for over thirteen thousand years, and

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<v Speaker 5>if you're to do the math correctly, this country that

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<v Speaker 5>we now call the United States is somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 5>neighborhood of two hundred and forty just over nearly two

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<v Speaker 5>years ago. I came here to the Rilawni Forest. I

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<v Speaker 5>came here with my own family, my own children were

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<v Speaker 5>some of my elders, to just share a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>about how this territoryiness land feels to us as Muskogee people,

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<v Speaker 5>because let it be known today, it was not our

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<v Speaker 5>choice to leave here. We did go to war to

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<v Speaker 5>protect these areas. We did go through much to protect

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<v Speaker 5>these areas, only to be forced to leave here under

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<v Speaker 5>military occupation, but also to be forced to leave here

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<v Speaker 5>after treachery, after illegally lands were taken from us. This

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<v Speaker 5>is our homeland, my ancestors for generation upon generation for

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<v Speaker 5>millennia are buried on the very ground that you walk

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<v Speaker 5>on every day. And I think we have a say

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<v Speaker 5>in how we should live as a society in this

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<v Speaker 5>day and time. And so in this moment, our hope

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<v Speaker 5>is to be able to come back, to rematriate, to

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<v Speaker 5>take our lives back and to the intimacy that we

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<v Speaker 5>once had with everything that grows here in what you

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<v Speaker 5>now call the state of Georgia, because no matter who

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<v Speaker 5>we are and where we come from, we have to

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<v Speaker 5>have air, we have to have water, we have to

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<v Speaker 5>have the elements of this earth to take care of us.

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<v Speaker 5>Regardless of what we think. We're dependent on this Earth's mother,

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<v Speaker 5>and she has been faithful in taking care of us.

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<v Speaker 5>It's us that has not been faithful in respecting her.

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<v Speaker 5>Hope is that this earth is not destroyed before we

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<v Speaker 5>even have a chance to come back, that lives aren't

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<v Speaker 5>destroyed before we have a chance to come back. So today,

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<v Speaker 5>in whatever way, I come here to join the choruses

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<v Speaker 5>of voices that you hear all around you saying what

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<v Speaker 5>is going on now is a violence against all of creation.

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<v Speaker 5>What is going on now bringing death and harm and

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<v Speaker 5>hurt is a violence against all of creation, and we

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<v Speaker 5>stand in solidarity as Muskogee people. I stand in solidarity

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<v Speaker 5>with the voices that we hear of those tenets, those

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<v Speaker 5>persons who live in the land now. But my hope

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<v Speaker 5>is now, at this moment in time, that somehow we

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<v Speaker 5>can change the trajectory of our species and go into

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<v Speaker 5>a direction where we can value each other, and we

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<v Speaker 5>can stop the criminalizing of descent. We should be able

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<v Speaker 5>to say no, the increasing of the militarized forces out

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<v Speaker 5>there does not ever create peace. It only creates harm,

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<v Speaker 5>and it only harms those that are most vulnerable. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the prayer that I carry today.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Darcy Jarrett joined in the call for stewardship of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wallani Forest to be returned to the Muscogee people.

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<v Speaker 6>City Schools of Decatur has a statement of solidarity an

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<v Speaker 6>acknowledgment of harms to cab County and the City of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 6>We call on you to make good on these words,

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<v Speaker 6>to give the land back to our indigenous siblings, so

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<v Speaker 6>that they, as they have stated and will do and

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<v Speaker 6>always have done, work in collaboration with the black and

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<v Speaker 6>brown community right there near where the site is, outside

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<v Speaker 6>of the Wilawni Forest. The City of Atlanta is ready

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<v Speaker 6>to lease this land at just ten dollars an acre. Instead,

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<v Speaker 6>give this land and to the native inhabitants. Repatriate this

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<v Speaker 6>land to the people to whom is their sacred call,

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<v Speaker 6>to defend and work a community with the black and

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<v Speaker 6>brown communities that are there. We call on you, Atlanta

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<v Speaker 6>City Council, to be the moral compass and to not

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<v Speaker 6>just halt the building of this structure, but to repatriate

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<v Speaker 6>the land to the sovereign Muscogee Nation, the sacred keepers

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<v Speaker 6>of this land. May it be so amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, Matthew Johnson spoke about the worrying amount of police

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<v Speaker 1>repression and violence the movement has already seen.

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<v Speaker 7>We're projecting by the end of the day, there will

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<v Speaker 7>be forty people that have domestic terrorists and charges, many

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<v Speaker 7>of which just for being in a parking lot. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know how anybody can accept this when you have

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<v Speaker 7>a projected forty people that are committed of domestic terrorism,

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<v Speaker 7>not one dead body. Meanwhile, we can't even show the

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<v Speaker 7>bruise on the police officer that was allegedly shot at,

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<v Speaker 7>but our friends' ashes. We have the ashes of a

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<v Speaker 7>friend that we will spread. We can no longer accept

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<v Speaker 7>this as a people as at lanterns. If we can't

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<v Speaker 7>figure out a way to fix public safety without lacking

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<v Speaker 7>tons of black kids up in the blackest city in America,

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<v Speaker 7>every person in that building needs to step down. If

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<v Speaker 7>we can't do it here, we can't do it anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Both myself and Matt from the Atlanta Community Press Collective

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<v Speaker 1>were at the press conference and we met up after

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss the events of the day. During the press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the media's line of questioning was very much

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<v Speaker 1>like aligned with the types of narratives being put out

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<v Speaker 1>by police in relation to the events that previous night,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday Direct Action and Music festival. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>also worth noting that the people at the clergy event

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<v Speaker 1>did not openly like demonize the actions that people chose

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<v Speaker 1>to take on Sunday, and it was it was very

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<v Speaker 1>much like the media definitely gives them opportunities to try

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<v Speaker 1>to throw people under the bus, and that did not happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah all, And we've seen that all throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 8>Every every chance that the media is trying to throw

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<v Speaker 8>somebody to like cause dissension or or divide amongst the

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<v Speaker 8>movement has been really handily deflected by anyone who who's

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<v Speaker 8>come across it, and the clergy did not just a

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<v Speaker 8>good job of like not falling into that trap, but

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<v Speaker 8>of actually pointing out how that line of thinking was

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<v Speaker 8>like missing the point and where the true violence was coming.

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<v Speaker 3>From and why Victorian people engaging and from other states.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality of it is that the ones who are

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<v Speaker 2>engaged in violence are the police, and they're from right

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<v Speaker 2>here in Atlanta, Georgia. You got APD, you got Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>State Police, you got GBI, you got Georgia State troopers,

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<v Speaker 2>you got everybody except the martyr police who are engaging

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<v Speaker 2>in violence and terrorism against the people who are standing

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<v Speaker 2>against this illegal land swap. So I would suggest that

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<v Speaker 2>the next time you decide that you are going to

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<v Speaker 2>bring up your police rhetoric that you get from whichever

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<v Speaker 2>police source, you go ahead and discuss that with them,

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't know what they're doing. But what we

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<v Speaker 2>do know is what we're doing and what we see from.

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<v Speaker 3>Them that we know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know when I get hit by an officer, I

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<v Speaker 2>know when I see a mother with a child begging

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<v Speaker 2>to be let up off the ground, because her children

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<v Speaker 2>are with her. I know when I see officers pointing

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<v Speaker 2>a rifle inside a bouncy house.

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<v Speaker 7>If I could just say, I'd like to just bring

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<v Speaker 7>up a story. Initially, the colonizers that came onto this

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<v Speaker 7>land attempted to use the indigenous folks as their slaves. However,

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<v Speaker 7>the indigenous folks knew the land so they could get away. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>when you ask me about why is it that you

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<v Speaker 7>keep catching people that aren't from here that might not

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<v Speaker 7>reflect the people that are actually involved in their resistance. God,

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<v Speaker 7>bless you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>After the press conference, people from the Clergy Coalition marched

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<v Speaker 1>to the front door and entered City Hall, before making

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<v Speaker 1>it upstairs to sign up for public comment during the

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<v Speaker 1>city council meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>Hie, we shall not be moved.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine for read now, we shall not be mole.

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<v Speaker 9>Just like the street pleased by wall, we shall not.

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<v Speaker 1>Ev The large group of the clergy and the people

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<v Speaker 1>gathered for the interfaith Coalition are now moving through City Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole bunch of cops here that looks relatively

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<v Speaker 1>nervous about the easily sized group of people. The scary

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<v Speaker 1>Christians are now invading City Hall.

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<v Speaker 8>Lookout, so usually in city Hall there are several APD

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<v Speaker 8>officers who you know, just kind of hang out. But

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<v Speaker 8>while the clergy are walking up to city Hall, you

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<v Speaker 8>can look out and you there is APD on every corner.

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<v Speaker 8>And then you enter into city Hall and there are

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<v Speaker 8>clusters of APD. There are I think four floors to

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<v Speaker 8>city Hall. There are clusters of APD on three sides

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<v Speaker 8>of every floor of city Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>After an unexpectedly long awards and proclamations ceremony, the public

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<v Speaker 1>comment section of the city council meeting finally began.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm standing here today with the Faith Coalition. We are

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<v Speaker 4>clergy and faith leaders. We are citizens, and we are

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<v Speaker 4>protectors of the land that doesn't belong to us, but

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<v Speaker 4>belongs to God. We are deeply concerned for our community members,

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<v Speaker 4>for ourselves, and implications for the future of public safety

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States if this cop city development goes forward.

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<v Speaker 4>We are asking for all people of faith, those of

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<v Speaker 4>you who sit on council, regardless of your tradition or background,

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<v Speaker 4>and those who stand with moral conscience, to stop the

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<v Speaker 4>cop city project. My faith convicts me and tells all

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<v Speaker 4>of us that there is a better way. We have

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<v Speaker 4>a prophetic, moral imagination and opportunity here to do something

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<v Speaker 4>different in Atlanta, to do something different for the South. Finally,

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<v Speaker 4>we're asking for a community process. A community process. Let

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<v Speaker 4>us come together with moral imagination to envision how the

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<v Speaker 4>Lani River forests can be the heart and lungs of

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<v Speaker 4>community wellness and healing. Not more militarization of police. We

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<v Speaker 4>want a process that centers the voice and needs of

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<v Speaker 4>Muskoge leaders and community members, our indigenous siblings, incarcerated folks

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<v Speaker 4>and surrounding prisons, families and neighbors who live in cross

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<v Speaker 4>proximity to the firing range and under police surveillance.

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<v Speaker 1>We want holistic.

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<v Speaker 4>Community safety, clean water, tree canopies, a future for every

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<v Speaker 4>single one of our children. May it be so.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone from the Muscogee Creek Reservation in Oklahoma spoke about

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<v Speaker 1>the desire to return to their homeland.

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<v Speaker 9>The Miko of our Hellobi Ceremonial grounds back home in

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<v Speaker 9>Oklahoma has come here where our original fire was started,

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<v Speaker 9>and then it was taken all the way to Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 9>and now we want to bring it back to our

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<v Speaker 9>land and we want to start those fires again. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>when we come back, we need a land to come

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<v Speaker 9>This is my first time coming back to visit my homelands.

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted to visit here where my ancestors are, as

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<v Speaker 9>a spiritual and personal journey. I didn't want to come

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<v Speaker 9>here to try to fight the violence that I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 9>What I'm hearing is from the residence is they need

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<v Speaker 9>investments in housing and public spaces, and not investment in

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<v Speaker 9>further militarized policing. They want investment in the well being

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<v Speaker 9>of incarcerated and not further violent incarceration, but the well

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<v Speaker 9>being of the community members. Thank you, Moto Chichatis.

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<v Speaker 10>I turned seventy last week and I've lived in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 10>my whole life. I'm not an outsider, and I am

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<v Speaker 10>here to say to you that I find cop City

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<v Speaker 10>to be an abomination. My husband is a pastor of

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<v Speaker 10>a church a couple of miles from here, and he

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<v Speaker 10>could not be here today. He's out of town, but

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<v Speaker 10>he stands with me with these comments. The people who

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<v Speaker 10>have spoken before me have said the things I would say,

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<v Speaker 10>but I would like to say that I pretty much

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<v Speaker 10>agree with every single thing they have said about this

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<v Speaker 10>insanity that you all are calling a police safety training facility.

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<v Speaker 10>So I think you need to just cancel it, start

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<v Speaker 10>having some real conversations with the people of this city

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<v Speaker 10>to solve the real problems in a way that will

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<v Speaker 10>actually be effective. And this facility is not going to

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<v Speaker 10>be it. And the mayor's proposed task force is just

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<v Speaker 10>one more way to try to propagandize us to believe

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<v Speaker 10>that this is good for us, when we're not stupid

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<v Speaker 10>and we know it's just lipstick.

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<v Speaker 9>On a pig.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you heart in your heart, be reminded of

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<v Speaker 2>the story of another pharaoh who had a very hard heart,

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<v Speaker 2>who would not free the people of God, who would

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<v Speaker 2>not lead them to their land. You know what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in that story. Don't think that you will not so

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<v Speaker 2>for the same fate. Don't think that the infrastructure of

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<v Speaker 2>this so called Black Mecca will not come toppling over,

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<v Speaker 2>because it will.

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<v Speaker 8>There are a couple like things to note about how

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<v Speaker 8>City Council public comment works. City Council doesn't tend to

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<v Speaker 8>pay attention to them. Essensibly, the only one who pays

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<v Speaker 8>attention is City Council President Doug Shipman, because it is

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<v Speaker 8>his job to call time and to call up the

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<v Speaker 8>next person. But you know, city councilors will like step

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<v Speaker 8>in and out of the room get something to eat.

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<v Speaker 8>During the seventeen hours of public comment for cop City,

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<v Speaker 8>like one of them held a press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two council members notoriously bad at paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to public comment. Dustin Hillis who is the committee chair

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<v Speaker 1>for the Public Safety Legal Administration Committee. Basically he's in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of police. And the other is Mary Norwood, who

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<v Speaker 1>represents Buckhead and has what I would describe as ontologically

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<v Speaker 1>evil vibes. Buckheed is the northern, primarily white neighborhood in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta that is wanted to from the city, which in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta has very uncomfortable segregation and redlining parallels. But despite

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<v Speaker 1>not paying attention during public comment, these two in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>both paid extra attention after public comment when police Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Scherbaum gave testimony on what happened the night previous.

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<v Speaker 11>Were there any firefighter or police Citty employee entries yesterday's event.

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<v Speaker 12>Because mamerhillis there was not. We're very fortunate that that

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<v Speaker 12>was the outcome. We're fortunate that there was no injuries.

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<v Speaker 11>If this continues, do we have the ability to deploy

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<v Speaker 11>even greater force to quill this? You know, the millions

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<v Speaker 11>of damage, millions of dollars of damage to public and

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<v Speaker 11>private properties.

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<v Speaker 12>We will make adjustments as those that used various tactics.

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<v Speaker 12>Yesterday was an escalation. We had not seen this large

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<v Speaker 12>number of individuals engaged in this activity. In the aggressive

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<v Speaker 12>manner in which the officers were attacked was a significant

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<v Speaker 12>change from what we'd seen before when it generally had

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<v Speaker 12>been setting properly on fire. We'd seen police cars set

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<v Speaker 12>on fire when those busters, but this was started as

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<v Speaker 12>an attack against individuals, men and women who are employees

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<v Speaker 12>of this city, so that was an escalation. Council Member

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<v Speaker 12>hillis that we have already made adjustments for both within

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<v Speaker 12>our capability as well as with our partners.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout to Sheerbaum's testimony, it was interesting the degree to

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<v Speaker 1>which the chief framed Sunday's direct action as primarily being

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<v Speaker 1>targeted against officers and not the destruction of equipment and

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<v Speaker 1>machinery at the North Gate. From the videos that APD

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<v Speaker 1>themselves released of the incident, it's clear that engagement with

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<v Speaker 1>the police was limited to keeping officers at bay as

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<v Speaker 1>construction equipment was targeted, and despite the continued referring of

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks as quote unquote mortars or explosives, as the chief

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<v Speaker 1>himself admitted, no officers were harmed during the direct action.

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<v Speaker 1>In a later episode, we'll hear more of Chief Sheerbaum's

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<v Speaker 1>explanation of Sunday Night's events, as it gives insight into

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<v Speaker 1>the police's own surveillance capabilities and their ability to respond

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<v Speaker 1>quickly to direct actions. But until then, back to the

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<v Speaker 1>events of Monday, March sixth. After the city council meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>I dressed up in the gayest little outfit that I

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<v Speaker 1>had with me and went back to the woods for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time since Sunday night for Perhum. Initially, people

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<v Speaker 1>were very cautious when entering the woods again, but as

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<v Speaker 1>the night went on, more and more people started to

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<v Speaker 1>pour into the forest, with some choosing to return to

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<v Speaker 1>their camp. Later that night, I enjoyed an experimental noise

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<v Speaker 1>show in the living room, probably to the detriment of

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<v Speaker 1>people trying to sleep in the area. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Perham in the woods. I got to share my

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<v Speaker 1>memory of the Veggietail's ester story starring the tickle monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to bond with a few exangelicals about that,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was fine. Then there was an experimental noise

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<v Speaker 1>show in the forest, and really I think it actually

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<v Speaker 1>is worth talking about because this was the first time.

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<v Speaker 8>People return to the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was the first time that people like returned

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<v Speaker 1>to the forest in mass since Sunday, and he started

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of feel people's energy get reinvigorated. The woods

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<v Speaker 1>became a place again that people were able to like

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<v Speaker 1>be in and feel like they were able to be

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<v Speaker 1>in community in the woods again.

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<v Speaker 8>And that is in keeping with sort of how this

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<v Speaker 8>movement has always responded to what we I guess could

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<v Speaker 8>call a loss, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like twenty three people getting arrested in charge is is

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<v Speaker 1>a great loss.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and the bounce back period is pretty quick, Like

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<v Speaker 8>the resiliency is continual and always strengthening. Every time that

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the repression grows, like it does seem like

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<v Speaker 8>the resiliency grows with it.

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<v Speaker 1>People were not scared away from the woods. People still

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<v Speaker 1>still were like, no, this is something I care about.

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<v Speaker 1>I am still going to be in the woods. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still going to defend these woods. And you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have like there's always this essence of like fear kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of underlying whenever you're like in the Wollani

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<v Speaker 1>Forest because you know, people have been arrested and charged

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<v Speaker 1>for laying in a hammock like that with another defendant,

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<v Speaker 1>with another defendant, and like so you know that it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is fundamentally a risky place to be, but

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<v Speaker 1>people think the potential cost is worth it, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>will they continue to be here because they know this

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<v Speaker 1>is a winnable fight and they know that it is

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<v Speaker 1>worth it to defend these woods. Early Tuesday morning, a

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<v Speaker 1>few stop Coop City banner drops happened throughout this city.

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<v Speaker 1>Two people were detained by police during one of these

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<v Speaker 1>banner drops, but were later released with a traffic citation

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<v Speaker 1>after being interrogated separately and extensively photographed by law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>officials only identified as quote Georgia Police and home Land

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<v Speaker 1>Security unquote. Tuesday was the start of a series of

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<v Speaker 1>non violent direct actions that were being launched around downtown

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<v Speaker 1>and midtown. Tuesday morning, I followed a small group that

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<v Speaker 1>went to the headquarters of Norfolk Southern, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police Foundation's financial contributors and noted enemy of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 8>They entered the lobby and it's a very small group,

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<v Speaker 8>but like I think half of it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like five people and another five like press people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So they enter and they read aloud a letter to

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 8>Alan Shaw, the CEO of Norfolk Southern, calling forward investment

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 8>of Norfolk Southern from Copcity, and immediately they are met

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 8>with a security guard screaming like go you're get out

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 8>of the lobby. Leave, you're being criminally or you're being trespassed.

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 6>You have to leave.

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 8>One of the other security guards runs around with cell

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 8>phone camera and like shoves it in everybody's faces, reaching

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 8>rather rudely over you to get my face.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>And they got very close to me entering the Norfolk

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Southern Building building.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Please this letter, it's playing a horrible in the city.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Can pave the building.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 8>And so the whole thing lasts like less than five minutes,

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 8>maybe ride about five minutes when they finished reading the letter,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 8>Like all they asked was that the letter go to

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 8>the CEO.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>While people were inside the headquarters, security called n S Police,

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>which is the Norfolk Southern Police, who are legally allowed

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to arrest people.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 8>Anyone, but nobody was arrested at that non violent direct action.

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 8>The whole thing was over pretty quickly, and you know,

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 8>as we were walking out, we saw like the the

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 8>a force of Norfolk Southern Police like swarm kind of

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 8>the exterior of the campus and like keep an eye

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 8>out on things.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And then we moved over to Woodriff Park, which was

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the meeting place for these non violent direct actions that

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>happened about every every day at noon starting on starting

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. It's Tuesday, March seventh, around noon, there's about

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>fifty or so people gathered in Woodriff Park who are

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>heading out and marching to go stop by two of

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Police Foundation corporate funders.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 8>We roll up and I think at that point they

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 8>were like twenty is protesters.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 4>It was.

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 8>It started off very small. There was no police, like

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 8>no real visible police presence. There were like maybe a

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 8>cruiser or two like kind of around and actually start

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 8>to gather and kind of talk about like what their

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 8>plan is for the day, which was just too march

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 8>around to three different sites. They wanted the eight and

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 8>T Building, the Georgia Pacific Building, and GSU.

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Georgia State University City. They're now leaving Woodriff Park. They

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>got to Georgia Pacific, one of the COP City financial backers,

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>without much incident and without much in terms of visible

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>police presence. People called on Mayor Dickens, who is the

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>chair of the board of directors for Georgia Pacific, to

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>cancel the Atlanta Police Foundation lease of the land that

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>cop city is slated to be built on.

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Mayor Dickens, we want you to cancel this leaks.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 3>We know that you have the authority to do so.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>They finished up that Georgia Pacific, they set up a

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>little vigil for Torti Guita.

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 8>And from Georgia Pacific they began their trek to the

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 8>AT and T building.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>They left a little vigil for Torti Ghita in front

0:31:53.560 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Georgia Pacific Center and the group of like

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>more than fifty people are continuing to march north. Police

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>eight to ten police officers are directly behind them, and

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole bunch of police cars are blocking Peach Tree

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>along the path to AT and T. Was the APF's

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>headquarters just across the street, and as the crowd approached

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>this intersection, the amount of police ballooned massively in the

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>block around the Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters. There's got to

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>be about thirty to forty officers stationed walking off the

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>entrance to the APF and also just like following the

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>crowd around as they're as they're marching through the sidewalks.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>There's definitely over god, there's I think around seventy five

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>officers to play in this area right now. The number

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>keeps growing as we start walking down different sidewalks and

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>different streets, you just see more officers that are already stationed.

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 8>There are fifty activists and what certainly over one hundreds,

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 8>and we're probably between hundred and hondred and twenty police

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 8>officers started marching not like behind, not in front, but

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 8>directly beside the march, sort of pinning the march to

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 8>the wall, and like essentially kettling the march.

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>There was police station in front, there was police station behind,

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and police stationed on the side. It was surrounding the

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>surrounding like these fifty people who were simply walking on

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk stumbling upon a new group of officers. Got

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to be about one hundred officers in this area right now.

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>At one point, a police vehicle was just parked on

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk, completely blocking it. During this entire time, police

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>were blocking all of the traffic in these intersections and.

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 8>Roads, driving wrong way up one way like just you know,

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 8>doing police things.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a door to State University canine unit. This blocking

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>off the entire sidewalk next to a Fulton County Sheriff's vehicle.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to make it impossible for people to actually

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>move on the sidewalk.

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>But for the most part, people.

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Have been able to move around the police and keep

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>their movement going instead of just stalling in one spot

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>or like trying to particually confront what is now like

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>hundreds one hundreds of law enforcement officers from Fulton County

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Sheriffs and Atlanta Police Department and even like Georgia State

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>University Police. So the group is split up in between

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>two streets right now because people are trying to follow

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the crossing signals because otherwise police are going to tackle

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and violently assault people. No one was arrested, people marched

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to their perspective locations.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 8>People very pointedly kept to laws. There was a couple

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 8>of times when like the crosswalk changed and the group

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 8>kind of had to split. They would stay and wait

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 8>until the crosswalk went back to walk, and then crossover

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 8>and join.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny that the cops are so insistent if

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you stepped on the streets, you're going to get arrested

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and make sure people stay on the side of walks.

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>But the result of that is that all the cops

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>are standing in the street and they're blocking off like

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>miles of traffic downtown. Right now, people just arrived at

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the fifty one Peachtree Center aff new AT and T

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>building in downtown Atlanta. Police were already stationed in front

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of the AT and T building, so there wasn't much

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to do. After a brief speech talking about AT and

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>T's contributions to the Police Foundation and Cop City, the

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>crowd moved on. Now people are turning west in the

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>opposite direction from the AT and T headquarters, heading back

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>into the Woodruff Park area where this march began. Police

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 1>with long guns here. Finally, the crowd stopped at Georgia

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>State University and talked about GSU's connections to the Atlanta

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Police Foundation. What is of note for this action, and

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.959
<v Speaker 1>really all of the actions that happened the next few days,

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is not what the protesters did. It's the police's disproportionate

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>response to just fifty people walking on the sidewalk, chanting

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and giving short speeches outside of businesses tied to APF.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 8>With a small line of officers in front of GSU.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 8>They gave their last round of speeches and sort of

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 8>just first for.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>The day before we wrap today and give these clouds

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>something else to go do.

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 8>We will be out here.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 2>We won't be out here for the rest of the week,

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the month, for the year.

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 3>We won't fight us here.

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:18.479
<v Speaker 9>We wait.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Some of the police are now grouping up and opening

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>up the sidewalk so people can actually leave. It seems

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>officers were in fact instructed to make arrests during this action,

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>but for some reason did not follow through on those orders.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 1>According to scanner audio from Atlanta Police Department's SWAT team, that's.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 3>About the of them. The problem is they've been telling

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 3>them to make a risk, but also is not making

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>a risk. I guess they weren't supposed to.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I'm with that.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 3>We'll just hold what we got and Fawn is needed.

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Extensive police activity continued later that night. At around five

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty to six pm, police started staging around the forest

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in a way that usually indicates that a raid is forthcoming.

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Words spread around the recovering encampment that police could be

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>preparing for a raid.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 8>So the initial reports were like that there were fifty

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 8>police officers staged at Key Road and ready to go,

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 8>and then the Dacab County Swat starts to roll up

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 8>at the fire station, and I would say a fair

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 8>amount of like panic starts to set it at camp.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Multiple multiple police copters are getting flown overhead, multiple different

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>SWAT teams are being brought in. At least like three

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:56.280
<v Speaker 1>or four different agencies are our stationing officers around the woods.

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's estimated that at least one hundred and

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty police officers were or were being staged in the

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>area directly surrounding the forest and in the area by

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>the power line cut on Key Road.

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 8>And it should be said that, you know, up until

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 8>this point, the police have never brought in that many

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 8>resources to any protest action that I'm aware of, and

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 8>not come in and engaged. So I was with a

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 8>group offsite who like immediately began to fear, like you know,

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 8>for they wouldn't be able to get back to their

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 8>camp size, they wouldn't be able to get their their gear,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 8>they wouldn't be able to get their medication, and that,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 8>from what I understand, was the general vibe around, but

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 8>nothing happened.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Nothing seemed to happen, and then at around seven police

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>started to almost like express confusion on what was going on,

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and then everyone else expressed confusion for why the police

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>were confused. And we think we've kind of put together

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>what may have happened, So Clark is what is suspected

0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of going down here.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 8>So the one thing that police don't understand and probably

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 8>will never understand is humor. Now they become the butt

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 8>of the joke often, but they don't understand comedy. So

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 8>at seven o'clock that evening was scheduled Comedy in the Forest.

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 8>And from what we've gathered, the police thought that the

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 8>Comedy in the Forest event was going to be a

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 8>cover for another Sunday night like action.

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:28.320
<v Speaker 1>So this event was scheduled on the public Defend the

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Forest calendar that anyone can look at online is

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>this Comedy in the Woods event for people to tell

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>jokes around a campfire. And I guess they thought it

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>was like it was like this event that was like

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a red herring so that people could then go do

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>violent militancy in around the woods. So when seven o'clock

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>came and went like police were expecting people to arrive

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>at the woods or something, and that just didn't happen

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>because turns out, a few minutes before seven o'clock, this

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>comedy event was canceled for like unrelated reasons. The organizer

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>had had things come up, So this event just didn't happen.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 1>But there still was comedy in the woods. It just

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was that the police wasted probably over one hundred thousand

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>dollars mobilizing over one hundred officers. And I mean, obviously,

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I think some people in the woods were you know,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>had some frustration that that that you know, they experienced

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this fear of this possibly incoming ray that then resulted

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>in there being nothing. I think it's always important to

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>when people are relaying information, they relay information that is

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>known without like unadue speculation. So like it is a

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>fact to say that there's over a hundred cops stationing

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:44.919
<v Speaker 1>by the woods, and they've never had that many cops

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>there before without doing some sort of raid or some

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of some sort of like activity in the forest.

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 8>And part of what I've heard go on since then was,

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, some very generative conversations about how they're going

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 8>to take into account like this. This new paradigm developed

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 8>that night, and I think that again speaks to sort

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 8>of just how the movement continues to develop and grow

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 8>and like you know, handle new new challenges and shifts.

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So with the forest camp still intact, the week of

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>action continued on as planned, with another downtown nonviolent direct

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>action that next morning.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 8>So Wednesday noon is a lot smaller of direct action

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 8>than the day before.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>It starts with like a dozen people. It slowly grows

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to like a few dozen, but yeah, it started extremely,

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>extremely small. So this was one difference from Tuesday is

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that when we arrived, police already had a visible presence

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>in downtown, stationed around Woodriff Park. So a group of

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>people just launch from Woodriff Park. They kind of split

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 1>off in different different little sub subgroups. Lots of people

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>are just stationed outside of Marta Stops handing out flyers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what people are doing right now. Police

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<v Speaker 1>seem relatively confused and are trying to like mobilized to

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<v Speaker 1>different areas where they feel like something might happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just people handing out flyers.

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<v Speaker 8>And they decided to split into groups and engage in

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<v Speaker 8>like just some typical outreache activity that you would see,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, from any group, like just passing out flyers

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<v Speaker 8>and pamphlets and attempting, from what I saw, to have

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<v Speaker 8>like one on one conversations with anyone who wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>So this this group that it broke off into these

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>smaller subgroups. The group that we kind of accompanied stationed

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<v Speaker 1>themselves around some Marta stops around I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>like them, it was the Peachtree Lata station. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>they stationed at the at the like the three different

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>exits or entrances for that, just just handing out flyers,

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>handing out leaflets, trying to you know, talk to anybody

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>who walks by. Another group of people standing outside of

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<v Speaker 1>a public transit spot handing out flyers, probably like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, four or five other small, small groups doing

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>similar things throughout downtown, which means police have a lot

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 1>more places to be as opposed to just following one

0:42:59.400 --> 0:42:59.919
<v Speaker 1>big group.

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<v Speaker 8>The group that we followed had its own police presence

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<v Speaker 8>follow it, and then when they split into three more groups,

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 8>each group had its own police presence follow it, and

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.439
<v Speaker 8>police stuck to the protesters the entire time. And of course,

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<v Speaker 8>like there's white transport vans that are full of cops

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<v Speaker 8>kind of driving by.

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<v Speaker 1>Big white van with police officers just showed up across

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>the street. Army green Tan swat vehicle just parked a

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>block away from the Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters. There was

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<v Speaker 1>an Atlanta swat vehicle parked outside of the Hooters.

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<v Speaker 8>Totally normal response. Totally normal response. And so the leafleting

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<v Speaker 8>goes on for you know, like forty five minutes, and

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<v Speaker 8>then all of the groups start to gather together conveniently

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<v Speaker 8>with the group that like we had embedded with.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there's actually a pretty decent number of people

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<v Speaker 1>gathered here for the flyering event today. You know, normal

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>police response to people handing out flyers, just fifty officers

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 1>and a swat team. But yeah, there's probably a point

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three dozen people that have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>all converged together. They started off very small, people were

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<v Speaker 1>very very spread out. They they splintered off into little, little,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>smaller groups. But now they've all kind of coalesced together

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 1>back again. So all the little subgroups kind of meet

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<v Speaker 1>up on Andrew Jung and Peach Tree, right next to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hooters and the Hard Rock Cafe.

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<v Speaker 8>This area is like the business district. So in the

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<v Speaker 8>middle of the day, it's like really busy, it's a

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<v Speaker 8>fairly like good spot to pass out leaflets.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are passing out these leaflets. Pedestrians are still

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>able to like walk through the sidewalks. It's pretty it's

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty chill. And then APD approaches the crowd, like the

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>APD has already been around this area. There's there's this

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>vehicle across the street watching people hand out flyers. But

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<v Speaker 1>then Lieutenant Neil Welch approaches the crowd and gives them

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<v Speaker 1>a dispersal order.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, alright, so I'm out of Neil Welch, Police Officers,

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<v Speaker 13>City of Atlanta. I hereby declare that being on this sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 13>you are obstructing or repeating the normal and reasonable movement

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<v Speaker 13>of pedestrian traffic and violation of Atlanta City Ordinance. Okay,

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 13>in the name of the people, is say to Georgia,

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<v Speaker 13>I hereby command that all present in the sidewalk, all

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<v Speaker 13>present here in the sidewalk, immediately exit the street or

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<v Speaker 13>the roadway or sidewalk. If you do not do so,

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<v Speaker 13>you may be detained or arrested. Should you fail to

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<v Speaker 13>exit the sidewalk in accordance with this lawful command, you

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<v Speaker 13>shall be in violation of Section one five zero two

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<v Speaker 13>six six substructing pedestrian traffic, which prohibits standing or being

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<v Speaker 13>on any street, roadway, or sidewalk in a manner to

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<v Speaker 13>obstruct or impede the normal or reasonable pedestrian traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops threatened arrest and detainment. They claimed that people were

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>blocking the sidewalk, which they absolutely weren't. I was walking freely,

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>as was all of like downtown pedestrian traffic. They were

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>not blocking anything.

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<v Speaker 8>This is uh, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty silly, utterly, utterly ridiculous response to people handing out flyers.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were told they cannot be on the sidewalk.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Obviously they can't be on the street. Where are you

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>allowed to protest if not the sidewalk or the street.

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Seemed like very like flimsy legal footing. But obviously they

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>police can rest anyone they want at any time, for

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>any reason. So people decide to move, They cross over

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the street, they walk like a block north, they cross

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the street again, and they move on to this part

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>of the sidewalk that is like really large, like a massive,

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>massive open open section that right.

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<v Speaker 8>In front of the mall, so it's it's it's meant

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 8>to like have a bunch of people passed by it.

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<v Speaker 1>So people continue to hand out flyers.

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<v Speaker 8>While this is happening, there's another group who comes in

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 8>to the side of p Street Center mall and enters

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 8>the mall. You find Mayor Andre Dickens. There are a

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 8>couple boards in Atlanta that stipulate the mayor is like

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 8>the head of the board, and this is one of them,

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<v Speaker 8>and it meets in Peatree Center Mall as one does.

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<v Speaker 1>So the mayor is having a meeting in the mall.

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<v Speaker 8>The office spaces, you know, sort of above the mall, and.

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<v Speaker 1>This group of people from the Muscogie Nation enter and

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<v Speaker 1>try to meet up with the mayor to hand off

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<v Speaker 1>a letter.

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<v Speaker 3>Objection, objection.

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<v Speaker 13>We have a letter being delivered from the Muscogee Creek

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<v Speaker 13>Nation on behalf of Muscogee Creek spiritual leadership and opposition

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<v Speaker 13>to copsidy.

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<v Speaker 9>I came all the way on the trail of tears

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<v Speaker 9>to deliver this letter to you folks. We want you

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<v Speaker 9>to know that the contemporary Muscogee people are now making

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<v Speaker 9>their journey back to our homelands and hereby give notice

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<v Speaker 9>to Mayor Andrew Dickens, the Atlanta City Council, the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 9>Police Department, the Atlanta Police found the Dacob County Sheriff's

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 9>Office and so called copp City, that you must immediately

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 9>vacate Muscogee homelands and cease violence and policing of Indigenous

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<v Speaker 9>and Black people and Muscogee lands. We lived as stewards

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 9>and in relationship to this land for more than thirteen

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 9>thousand years until the illegitimate State of Georgia negotiated with

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 9>the Tyrant Andrew Jackson for the militarized for the militarized

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 9>force removal of Muscogee and Cherokee relatives to Indian territories.

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<v Speaker 9>Mayor Dickens, can I give this letter to you? He

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<v Speaker 9>got one, Mayor, we want to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 9>our homeland, the Muskogee Creek people.

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<v Speaker 8>Three indigenous activists along with Kamal Franklin arrive and they

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 8>find the mayor. They enter the board meeting and they

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 8>begin to read this letter from the Muscogi Nation allowed

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<v Speaker 8>and in the letter, it essentially says that Atlanta is

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 8>being evicted out of the Louis Lanni Forest and the

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 8>most Scogee people are going to return and reclaim their

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 8>ancestral land. Mayor Dickens, in true mayor fashion, bolts away

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 8>from this, running through an exit door, which is then

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 8>like blocked by a guard which I think that has

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 8>its own set of legal issues, essentially just ignoring them

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 8>over his shoulder. He calls out, I've got a copy

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 8>of the letter and hides just completely trying to escape

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 8>what is not a good look for him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Atlanta Police Department APEX Swatch team was called to

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<v Speaker 1>the mall, and right as the activists were able to exit,

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the special police units rushed into the building, finding no one.

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<v Speaker 1>By now, the police repression during this week of action

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<v Speaker 1>far exceeded police activity during any of the prior weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of action, and this trend would continue as the week

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<v Speaker 1>entered its last few days. The next episode will wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up our coverage for the week, as well as contain

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more analysis of the police repression and the

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>fallout of Sunday's direct action. But then there will be

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth bonus episode that gives an overview of what's

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the Malani Forest in the intervening two months.

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