Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Did
Speaker 1: you know that the judge was so impartial to you
Speaker 1: as the trial was going on, because it was later
Speaker 1: came out that seemed like he was very disappointed.
Speaker 2: And did you know he was impartial towards you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you what I knew. He was
Speaker 2: impartial before I even.
Speaker 1: Well, he was partial courwards you because he really wanted
Speaker 1: you to get to he.
Speaker 2: He dismissed my claims before I even went to court,
Speaker 2: in some little room somewhere, with a click of a mouse,
Speaker 2: he dismissed my claim. Damn, without a hearing. I just
Speaker 2: set up in a pill on four twenty. I dropped
Speaker 2: the four twenty and we said in the pill, why
Speaker 2: that date? It just all worked out? I watch this,
Speaker 2: watch god. I went to court, made to sixteenth, verdict
Speaker 2: came down. I went to court March to sixteenth. Yes,
Speaker 2: all right, easy, brother. I went to court March sixteenth,
Speaker 2: corraigt verdict got read March twentieth. Correct, you got thirty
Speaker 2: days of filing a pill. Thirty days from March twentieth
Speaker 2: was April twentieth, correct, April twentieth came They didn't find
Speaker 2: no appeal, and I dropped mine in the basket bam,
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: It was the last day thirty days.
Speaker 1: Because there was a juror that came out and said,
Speaker 1: what was it about what he said that led y'all
Speaker 1: to to not side with the officers? And she said, well,
Speaker 1: I thought that was very I thought that was very
Speaker 1: odd that normally days like oh, is this your decision?
Speaker 1: Is that go by and ask each is this your decision?
Speaker 1: Is just your yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes, But to
Speaker 1: ask why they didn't side with that's odd.
Speaker 3: No, it's not odd. It's not no, it's typical.
Speaker 2: It's typical to side with the police are back the blue.
Speaker 2: Now listen, I'm not knocking police officers. Yes, now, just
Speaker 2: the human beings joined the police department. There's good human
Speaker 2: beings and bad human beings all right.
Speaker 3: Now, what I will say this, the good.
Speaker 2: Human beings in the police department ain't snitching enough on
Speaker 2: them bad ones. They need to turn it up, all right,
Speaker 2: because how can you be good when you sitting here
Speaker 2: allowing bad stuff to go on? Now that's not I'm
Speaker 2: gonna slip that little slip to all the good police
Speaker 2: all right now, you know, but the the you know,
Speaker 2: I think I forgot the original question.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying because the judge, because he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be impartial, but he was partial towards his group, right,
Speaker 1: they listen, I'm not a human being to them people.
Speaker 1: They was talking about, do you know what you did
Speaker 1: to her kids? Do you know what you did to mine?
Speaker 1: You know what about my kids? You know you came
Speaker 1: to my house first with your ar fifteens. But I
Speaker 1: don't exist, I don't matter. We're not talking about me.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the guy with the guns.
Speaker 3: Kids.
Speaker 1: Your kids would have never knew anything about Afro man.
Speaker 1: Had y'all not deal what y'all.
Speaker 2: Did, right, so you know, so I was just tripping
Speaker 2: on how they was just talking over and pass right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: forget you.
Speaker 3: Here's your claim.
Speaker 2: We kicked down your door, we stole your money, we
Speaker 2: disconnect your cameras. Fuck your claims. Let's talk about what
Speaker 2: you did to these police officers.
Speaker 3: My dad said.
Speaker 2: A man in Corpus Christi, Texas stepped on his foot
Speaker 2: and turned around and said, hey man, why you put
Speaker 2: your foot underneath mine. People just know how to start
Speaker 2: a fight with you. If they could win, they didn't,
Speaker 2: they'll do it if they If they don't know, they
Speaker 2: can't even they'll try it. Right, A lot of people
Speaker 2: get knocked out all the time. They thought they thought
Speaker 2: they could win, you know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 2: know the cats was dead wrong, but had arrogance with it.
Speaker 2: You know, they to do that. You know, you're one
Speaker 2: of your favorite lyps. Mama's lemon pound cake. It tastes
Speaker 2: so nice. It made the sheriff want to put out
Speaker 2: his gun and cut.
Speaker 1: Him as lighte. So you really can see the deputy
Speaker 1: cutting us bothered or you made up where you said
Speaker 1: they took the cake and said, well you came back
Speaker 1: a cake that you had on the counter.
Speaker 2: Look here, liquhim Lo Lisa cut off the cameras and everything.
Speaker 2: The cake was gone, the money was gone. We took
Speaker 2: a fist in that hat man Mama Donna's greatest hits,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: They mentioned Cardi B's wopped, Little Wayne's you know monster
Speaker 1: because they were taking in a literal sense. It's like
Speaker 1: ro this is a freedom expression. I mean, nobody assumes
Speaker 1: that they see something in the movie that they can
Speaker 1: go out there and do it. This is your freedom
Speaker 1: of your My biggest amendment.
Speaker 2: My biggest song is crazy rap and I I was
Speaker 2: trying to outdo too Short when I wrote this song, Okay,
Speaker 2: too short, hald freaky to I grew up at Meyron
Speaker 2: too short.
Speaker 3: I was a little boy. I heard freaky tail.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, he had all them women, so I
Speaker 2: had to outdo too short. So too short sounded like
Speaker 2: he humped all the girls in Oakland. So I had
Speaker 2: to out do too short. So I had to hump
Speaker 2: all the girls in the world. Right, So I had
Speaker 2: to go to Japan, and you know, it.
Speaker 3: Was all over.
Speaker 2: So somebody walked into me and they said, hey, if
Speaker 2: from Man, it's crazy rap, true? And I said, I
Speaker 2: never had Dolly parton man. I was lying, right, and so,
Speaker 2: but it's entertainment. It's a song, yes, and people know
Speaker 2: you're lying and they notice it. I don't know, right,
Speaker 2: you know a superman. I knew when a rapper was
Speaker 2: entertaining me.
Speaker 1: Yes, but what made you start making music videos with
Speaker 1: the security footage that it did pick up before they
Speaker 1: disconnected it.
Speaker 2: I wanted to get my money from them. I wanted
Speaker 2: to get my money from the experience they brought to
Speaker 2: my life. Okay, I didn't want because I got hired
Speaker 2: to pay for their damage.
Speaker 3: That was taking money from me to me.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to make an album about them, and
Speaker 2: then I wanted to monitor that album to make sure
Speaker 2: all the damages was paid for and possibly, hey what
Speaker 2: if you know, best case scenario, them vandalizing my house
Speaker 2: was some kind of financial investment. They you know, you
Speaker 2: know they got all these budgets all the time. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, they cost me twenty eight thousand dollars. But
Speaker 2: then the ideas and songs I got from their are
Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand dollars worth of vandalism inspired and helped
Speaker 2: me make a million dollars two million. Do who knows
Speaker 2: how many records this thing might sell right in my lifetime,
Speaker 2: so I can look back over and say, hey, that
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand, that twenty eight thousand inspired me to
Speaker 2: make this million over here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I was trying to look at it through that lens.
Speaker 1: I read they broke down your front door, the gate,
Speaker 1: the security surveilor system where I refused to pay for damages,
Speaker 1: said it cost you a twenty eight twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to repair. The cops took five thousand from your home.
Speaker 1: They returned forty six hundred. You do four hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: You let him walk with that four hundred.
Speaker 3: Okay, no.
Speaker 2: Dollar, no, no, let me steal four hundred dollars. I'm
Speaker 2: going to jail, handcuffs cocked to the side of the
Speaker 2: back of the squad car and everything. Now, a man
Speaker 2: representing the law can break it. No, no, he's no standard. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't care if it was twenty five cents. In
Speaker 2: the words of the Great Big Worm, it's principalities in this.
Speaker 2: He's a cop. You can't represent the law and then
Speaker 2: break it. Right, So just that principle, they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to fess up for my four hundred dollars. You can't
Speaker 2: be a cop and a criminal at the same time.
Speaker 2: I don't want that. That don't need to be walking
Speaker 2: around with one hundred percent immunity. Back up with multiple precincts.
Speaker 2: The Army is backing up the police, the Marines is
Speaker 2: backing up the police. There's a pyramid of power going
Speaker 2: to the back of a police officer's back. A criminal
Speaker 2: can't have that because he's not gonna do right. He's
Speaker 2: gonna do somebody right. He's gonna pull over your son,
Speaker 2: gonna pull over your daughter with all that authority and
Speaker 2: all that power.
Speaker 3: And he's a crooked. So if I see it, I.
Speaker 2: Gotta get rid of him. That got to he gotta
Speaker 2: be a better magician than that. If I see it,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna let him go. That man is a
Speaker 2: thief and he's a police officer. No, give me my
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars back.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming I'm assume a lot of your family
Speaker 1: because you got to call that they were there and
Speaker 1: your kids there, and you said they had the guns
Speaker 1: growing on them. So how are your kids better today?
Speaker 1: Do they understand what transpired?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, you know I talked to him, and how would
Speaker 2: already you don't ask? Well right now if I can
Speaker 2: keep up a time, Jesus Christ. Uh, they're supposed to
Speaker 2: be sixteen and thirteen right now. They was like I
Speaker 2: think they was like maybe like ten and twelve or
Speaker 2: something like that in thirteen back when the police raided.
Speaker 1: Okay, since this has happened, how you treated in your hometown,
Speaker 1: how you treated with this transpired?
Speaker 2: Overwhelming love joy and gratitude like, uh, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say that. He word just like some something.
Speaker 2: It's like some kind of parade, right, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a I've been popular in high school. I've been you know,
Speaker 2: I've been. I've done good concerts and people have cheered
Speaker 2: me on.
Speaker 3: This is big, this is different.
Speaker 1: Have you had any further interaction with the police.
Speaker 3: No, And you like that. Randy Walters after the trial,
Speaker 3: he came up to.
Speaker 2: Me and he was, you know, he was humble and
Speaker 2: kind of apologetic in a way, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I told him that I didn't want to I didn't
Speaker 2: want to fight him.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to shoot it out if we saw
Speaker 3: each other in Walmart. Uh, this, that and the other.
Speaker 3: And you know, he was telling me how he was
Speaker 3: a Christian, he loved God and all that and that
Speaker 3: was fine.
Speaker 2: And I told him, you know, I ain't gonna hate
Speaker 2: him and I ain't gonna go to hell, and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want him to get jumped on.
Speaker 3: I don't want him to get hurt.
Speaker 2: But I told him I'm singing this song forever. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not mad at you. You this
Speaker 2: is this you know I was gonna Life brought me
Speaker 2: because I got high. Life bring me a song, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sing that song. You know, it pays my bills.
Speaker 2: It helps me get through through life. So I told him,
Speaker 2: you know, no hostility, you know, but you know you
Speaker 2: are suing me for a million and a half dollars
Speaker 2: with your nice ass. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 2: did flip off my security. Can you know with your
Speaker 2: Christian self, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, and I'm not gonna hate you for that.
Speaker 2: I forgive you for that, just like you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to forgive me for singing this song for the rest
Speaker 2: of my life. And and I told God, I said, God,
Speaker 2: I think this is a good compromise. I told God.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't want these people dead. I don't
Speaker 2: want them hurt. I said, but I do want to
Speaker 2: sing and I want to make money. And I think
Speaker 2: that is a peaceful compromise, all things considered.
Speaker 1: How different do you think this case would have been
Speaker 1: had it not been recorded.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a leg to stand though. I'd just
Speaker 2: be some dude hollering, getting on people's nerves. But what
Speaker 2: I like about this is I'm showing it to you
Speaker 2: while I'm saying it. Will you help me repair my
Speaker 2: gait as it's being destroyed? Will you help me repair
Speaker 2: my door as it's being kicked down?
Speaker 3: Did you find what you ten for? As we can
Speaker 3: see you didn't, bill you help me repair?
Speaker 2: So this footage helped me verify what I was saying,
Speaker 2: and the verification spread the outrage.
Speaker 1: You know throughout the world. You ran for president in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. You playing on running in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: If everybody want me to.
Speaker 1: What about running?
Speaker 3: Have you just what?
Speaker 1: Have you thought about running for a local uh say,
Speaker 1: like a city council or the mayor or something. Have
Speaker 1: you thought about running back for something in your hometown?
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to run for whoever can fire and
Speaker 2: check the police. I might have to be the sheriff,
Speaker 2: the mayor. Yeah, I'm gonna be somebody. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to be the bear for that. Okay,
Speaker 3: I might have to be the mayor.
Speaker 1: So if you were the president, give me a give me.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, eight year
Speaker 1: running for president and I need your plan. I need
Speaker 1: you to give me. Give me five or six points
Speaker 1: that you say, you know what, if you elect afro
Speaker 1: Man as your president, I solemnly swear to do X
Speaker 1: Y Z one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a jury in family court because I
Speaker 2: see what a crooked judge and some attorneys can do
Speaker 2: to a person.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I would like for citizens of America to be able
Speaker 2: to get jobs monitoring each police officer's video camp. Yes,
Speaker 2: I would like for America to make its own products
Speaker 2: to the point where it employs us right as much
Speaker 2: as possible. I wouldn't have any wars. If nobody is
Speaker 2: not flying over America directly bombing us or doing something this,
Speaker 2: that and the other, I wouldn't have no wars going
Speaker 2: on in I'd make sure America is self sufficient to
Speaker 2: the point where we wouldn't need it anything from the
Speaker 2: world to the point where we had to go to
Speaker 2: war with another country or something like that.
Speaker 3: I just make sure you know there was no wars
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 1: Well, you do realize, you know, America found that it
Speaker 1: was cheaper to import all the stuff. That's why all
Speaker 1: these factors, a lot of the factories that they used
Speaker 1: to have in Detroit and Ohio they got shipped overseas.
Speaker 1: Because it was it became cost prohibitive cheaper.
Speaker 2: But it's costing America and another whole difference. It cost
Speaker 2: them jobs for sure, it's costing mental health, it's costing existence,
Speaker 2: it's caused in finances. You know, it's bad for the
Speaker 2: good of the country. We're rottening from the inside out.
Speaker 2: So I would stop that, okay, and I have that
Speaker 2: made in the USA thing back on every product.
Speaker 3: And then if you didn't go to work, that would
Speaker 3: just be your fault the job.
Speaker 1: Because the jobs are available. Yes, you had your eight
Speaker 1: priority points. In twenty twenty four, decriminalized cannabis, the Criminal
Speaker 1: Justice Reform, law enforcement reform, a media halt to all
Speaker 1: foreign aid, reparations for African Americans, promotion of unity, peace
Speaker 1: and love, promotion of celebratory displays in professional sports, legalization
Speaker 1: of prostitution. You said, mechanical plants are criminalized while pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: companies enrich themselves on chemicals with unknown side effects. No
Speaker 1: more foreign aid, huh.
Speaker 2: I mean if I see if America is hurting, then no,
Speaker 2: you know how I'm gonna give you something when I
Speaker 2: needed at home met So that's the cold you know,
Speaker 2: truthful power bottom.
Speaker 1: Line you got reparations for African Americans. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that Americans will ever get reparations? Well, I'm ready, I
Speaker 1: got a plan A, and I got a plan B. Okay,
Speaker 1: give me a all right plan A.
Speaker 2: Present day America says we don't want to pay for
Speaker 2: the sins of our forefathers. At the same time, the
Speaker 2: sins of the forefathers have an effect on today today.
Speaker 2: My logical compromises this. Afro Americans, descendants of American slaves,
Speaker 2: pay no fate, pay no state or federal taxes that
Speaker 2: don't cost nobody.
Speaker 3: You don't got to. That can just start right away,
Speaker 3: That can start right away. You ain't got to.
Speaker 1: So how long? So forever over, for the next five years,
Speaker 1: for the next ten years, next twenty years, if you're
Speaker 1: you're the lineage.
Speaker 2: Of forever slash four hundred, or however long slavery was
Speaker 2: in existence, I say forever, okay, just because I'm af.
Speaker 3: Hey, look, just leave me like what we know the.
Speaker 1: Earnest documentation to sixteen nineteen and Jamestown, and this said
Speaker 1: officially in the way eighteen sixty five. Suppose that you
Speaker 1: know what eighteen sixty five, because the massurplacing proclamation. So
Speaker 1: so what about two hundred years? And then you had Jim,
Speaker 1: you had reconstruction, you had Jim Crow. So let's just
Speaker 1: say for how about let's let's be to differ. Let's
Speaker 1: be caring for two hundred years. For the next two
Speaker 1: hundred years, African American doesn't have to play state or
Speaker 1: federal taxes.
Speaker 2: Shannon be cool man forever man. Dude, that's not my plan.
Speaker 2: Can we step outside, like Greg?
Speaker 1: We got to can we gotta get we gotta get
Speaker 1: compromand fro compromised.
Speaker 2: Okay, look at that's okay. Plan you said Plan A. Okay,
Speaker 2: we ain't talking about planning. Okay, what's playing B?
Speaker 3: All right, man? Plan B?
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a plan. Plan B is let's say they
Speaker 2: don't they don't pay the descendants and slaves for the
Speaker 2: atrocities that happen.
Speaker 3: Okay. Plan B is this anti in word.
Speaker 2: Afro Americans like myself go somewhere and try to buy
Speaker 2: the largest pieces of property possible.
Speaker 3: Some fun be set up where our acts.
Speaker 2: The non black American that understands, if they want to,
Speaker 2: they can contribute whatever God puts on their heart to
Speaker 2: help us. You know, establish ourselves and and get out
Speaker 2: of everybody's way. That's Plan B. That ain't gonna hurt nobody.
Speaker 2: We're gonna I'm gonna do the best I can, and
Speaker 2: I ain't mad if you got a little donation, I
Speaker 2: can't lie. Kind of like plan A little better, amen,
Speaker 2: he Now, Plan B is realistic than a mug but hey,
Speaker 2: plan Plan A is is it's it's realistic, it's logical.
Speaker 2: You know, it's better than me saying hey, because you
Speaker 2: know they ain't gonna be able to afford what they
Speaker 2: really owe.
Speaker 3: Right, Afro Americans for slaves.
Speaker 1: And it's easier if you don't see it coming out
Speaker 1: of your pockets.
Speaker 2: Right, I say okay, they say, hey, we didn't make
Speaker 2: no slaves, and say, okay, fine, Hey, look just cut
Speaker 2: the state in federal.
Speaker 3: Taxes for Afro Americans, you know, just Afro.
Speaker 2: Americans, not people thinking like they Afro Americans and hating
Speaker 2: Afro Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said legalized prostitution. Why should prostitution be legal?
Speaker 1: How did that help?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I didn't think I was going to make it to
Speaker 2: the presidency. So that was one of my lines that
Speaker 2: kind of entertained the crowd.
Speaker 3: It was like a funny.
Speaker 2: Everything like Vegels Hunt. You know what I'm saying now,
Speaker 2: you know, like I really you know that was a joke.
Speaker 2: That was a joke I told now out. You know,
Speaker 2: depending on the people. If the people tell me they
Speaker 2: want that, you know, I'll make sure the proper medical
Speaker 2: places are in place.
Speaker 3: And this, that and the other.
Speaker 2: If the people don't want that, then the people don't
Speaker 2: want that. You know, we the people, for the people.
Speaker 1: You can be a president. You're gonna be a president
Speaker 1: for the people. Yes, you do realize a lot of
Speaker 1: people say that until they get into the office, and it's.
Speaker 3: For the for the health care for I'm really for
Speaker 3: the people.
Speaker 2: I want to see the best thing happen for every
Speaker 2: for everybody, especially every American.
Speaker 3: I love America. This is home. I don't plan on leaving,
Speaker 3: so I want to make the best of it. So
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: I want another American to have the best. So we can,
Speaker 2: you know, live the best American life we possibly can't.
Speaker 2: Is it true you try to be a pimp at
Speaker 2: one point in time. I try to get women to
Speaker 2: bring me money. They don't do it. Every guy should
Speaker 2: try to get a woman to bring him some money.
Speaker 2: Watch how hard it is. Try to jump up in
Speaker 2: the air and stay there too, that's real hard.
Speaker 3: I like. I like when I as I, as I
Speaker 3: shop through life. I take what I like. I have
Speaker 3: seen some nice dressers.
Speaker 2: And you know that word that that definition has been
Speaker 2: you know, it's been morphed over time, and ain't you
Speaker 2: know the old school. I'm gonna get some grill, beat
Speaker 2: her up and make her have sex with guys and
Speaker 2: bring me money. No, I like, you know, I like
Speaker 2: looking good. I like, you know, jewelry and driving a
Speaker 2: nice car. You know what I'm saying. If I look
Speaker 2: at a bum and a pimp, I want to dress
Speaker 2: like the pimp. You know, I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: not none of the bad negative characteristics that go with that.
Speaker 2: They got shows that say pimp my ride. So they
Speaker 2: not talking about they they talking about making a bad
Speaker 2: car look good. Right, So I like pimp in that sense,
Speaker 2: like or I like a good business. A good pimp
Speaker 2: to me like a good businessman. You know, he's not
Speaker 2: a loser. He's he's making a profit. He's progressing. We'll
Speaker 2: say stuff like put it in my pocket and a
Speaker 2: player in motion for progress. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: but not not beating on women and whatever. The typical
Speaker 2: definition was back in the day. You've been married before,
Speaker 2: would you get married again? I'm'a say no, why because
Speaker 2: when you get married you have to do your duties forever.
Speaker 2: But she can stop being a wife as soon as
Speaker 2: you get married. As soon as you get married, she
Speaker 2: can say, go in there and cook your dinner. You
Speaker 2: goddamn self, get punk ass motherfuckers, and I will. She
Speaker 2: would divorce me and get me all this shit. So
Speaker 2: you got to keep on being a husband. But she
Speaker 2: can stop being a wife. And then it's to her
Speaker 2: advantage to be like this if she don't have the
Speaker 2: right mentality.
Speaker 3: You know, they have divorce parties.
Speaker 2: Now they celebrate getting with a guy and breaking up
Speaker 2: with him and breaking him.
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah. The marriage is a low key hustle.
Speaker 1: You imagine, it's not what he used to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, like and then it's like this man, you know,
Speaker 2: like you know, like if two people like each other,
Speaker 2: yes they'll be with each other.
Speaker 3: Correct, We don't need paperwork, and strange.
Speaker 1: People ain't staying together because of paper They staying together
Speaker 1: because they love each other and they committed each other
Speaker 1: and they want to work and they understand that it
Speaker 1: takes work.
Speaker 2: I wanted to come to this show today. Yes, you
Speaker 2: know so, so I can't a girl want to be
Speaker 2: with you, she'll be with you, right. If she don't
Speaker 2: want to be with you, you'll hear that Voicemai you're
Speaker 2: looking to side that bed. She ain't with you, right,
Speaker 2: see where she want to be? So you can marry
Speaker 2: that paperwork, right, But that spirit, a woman is a spirit.
Speaker 2: You can't own a spirit.
Speaker 3: She moving around you married, what you married and single
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 2: So she gotta want to be with you, and you
Speaker 2: don't need paperwork, strangers and all that. Either she want
Speaker 2: to be with you or she don't. And if she
Speaker 2: with you, she being nice, she doing good, fine, fine fun.
Speaker 2: If she start tripping, she quit, But you gotta keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yes, so let's be nice
Speaker 2: to each other.
Speaker 3: You know, are we done? You know? Well?
Speaker 1: I think you gotta you gotta work. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the thing is sometimes people think I've never been married.
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes people looking at it from afar
Speaker 1: and talking to people that's been married and been divorced,
Speaker 1: is that what they think like the marriage at the
Speaker 1: end all be all Okay, it's it now, But you
Speaker 1: gotta keep working. You don't get a job and then
Speaker 1: get to quit. That's what I'm saying, Like you gotta want.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like.
Speaker 2: I gotta want to be with a girl like I
Speaker 2: get with a girl. I say, hey, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: play too short while this girl is in the car. Right,
Speaker 2: she shouldn't play Beyonce while I'm in the car. Don't
Speaker 2: play something that's gonna bring you know, like you're in
Speaker 2: the car. I'm gonna go make a playlist, right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go, and it's not just slow songs. I got sunshine.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play something that's gonna nurture. I relate, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep doing. I'm gonna get another look. When I'm
Speaker 2: with you, I gotta play love songs. Just I'm nurturing you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wake up every day and I'm gonna water
Speaker 2: this flower.
Speaker 1: You playing Bill Withers's Lovely Day.
Speaker 2: Hunh yes, yes, y'all listen to them words just because
Speaker 2: it's slow, don't make it a love song. You gotta
Speaker 2: listen to They might be complaining and fussing. No you
Speaker 2: don't need to be hearing that. You need to be
Speaker 2: hearing your activity, yes, sir, so yeah, so you know
Speaker 2: there it is. I say, two people want to be together,
Speaker 2: they'll be together.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And some people want to be together for six months.
Speaker 2: Some people want to be together for sixty years. Some
Speaker 2: people they really like to be and they together.
Speaker 1: You know, when you see these couples and they've been
Speaker 1: together so long, one dying, then a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: later the other one, they just I can't live without him.
Speaker 1: I've been with this person so long. I can't live
Speaker 1: without that person. Right on.
Speaker 3: Well god, you know, yeah, man, you know this, that
Speaker 3: and the other.
Speaker 1: Growing up in California, what is What would you say
Speaker 1: was the biggest difference between you growt up in LA
Speaker 1: and you growing up and spending some time and Haddisburg, Mississippi.
Speaker 2: It's all the same but just different. But then all
Speaker 2: the saying a way, not not too much. But in Mississippi, Alabama,
Speaker 2: it was okay to be. It was okay not to
Speaker 2: have a new stuff every day. Yeah, anybody had stuff
Speaker 2: in the country. Yeah, it was okay to be from
Speaker 2: another part of the ghetto. L A was was complicated.
Speaker 2: I never seen people powered up on top of each
Speaker 2: other like that. It's more space down south, even the
Speaker 2: houses more.
Speaker 3: Part people that big. You know, yeah, you're to each
Speaker 3: other man, La, everything's called compride.
Speaker 2: You can't hardly park your car's everybody fighting over every
Speaker 2: little inch.
Speaker 1: So, you know, just saying that you throw your disch
Speaker 1: water out, you throw it in somebody else's yard.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so but La had great weather. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: the l A people, you know, they.
Speaker 2: They spoke probably better standard English, you know whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: we had Southern accents or whatever, back and forth. But
Speaker 2: I like the low riders. I never seen rich black
Speaker 2: people till I got to l A. I've seen dudes
Speaker 2: with rings on chains and.
Speaker 3: It was it was a trip.
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen it. Brothers with perms longer than
Speaker 2: women strolling down the street. Yeah, Jerry curls and hopping
Speaker 2: low riders and uh it was fascinating at the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, like, uh, you know, I ain't never seen
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen.
Speaker 3: Uh. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't the whole city.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, you see, I ain't never
Speaker 2: seen gang bangers or kind of mean black people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you played football? Were you
Speaker 1: good at football?
Speaker 3: You know I'm gonna say yeah. I ain't gonna say no.
Speaker 3: You know I should talking to Shannon's sharp. But I
Speaker 3: was a good you play. I played tighty end, comebow man.
Speaker 3: I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I played. Uh.
Speaker 2: I was number eighty three. Uh I played. I played JV.
Speaker 2: I dropped out the eleven. So I played like JV
Speaker 2: and I was tight end. I got two touchdowns probably
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: No foot but no basketball, no baseball.
Speaker 2: I played basketball. I got one dunk I got You
Speaker 2: could dump back in the day, not now. I used
Speaker 2: to could do a double pump backwards dunk. I am
Speaker 2: not lying. I am not lying. I got I got
Speaker 2: some high school homies that are verify it from me.
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah. So when you moved when you moved to
Speaker 1: LA from Mississippi, what was the nickname the kids call you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Because you probably got there around the time that movie
Speaker 1: came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I hit out so like we was
Speaker 2: in the sixth grade and all the boys in sixth
Speaker 2: grade was naming Nate Dick. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So like uh, the teacher will walk out the room.
Speaker 2: So this one kid had go over there to the napkins.
Speaker 2: He got a whole bunch of them brown paper towel
Speaker 2: and he stuffed him in his pants. He turned around
Speaker 2: to the class and he was.
Speaker 1: Like big Charlie.
Speaker 3: The class died laughing.
Speaker 2: So another boy go load his pants something here, big
Speaker 2: d So Big Joseph sounding kind of goofy, you know,
Speaker 2: like a biblical character, you know.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm sitting around.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in this library to the side of me,
Speaker 2: so I see Joby, I see I see Moby Dick
Speaker 2: the whale story. So I thought I flip mine the
Speaker 2: joby Dick, you know. So I stuffed all them papers
Speaker 2: in mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, Joby Dick.
Speaker 3: There she blows so like.
Speaker 2: So that was we was all calling ourselves big Charlie,
Speaker 2: you know. You know, I was calling myself joby Dick.
Speaker 2: But I but I walk home to a girl and
Speaker 2: just tell her my name was Big Jobi, just Joey,
Speaker 2: you know. So I've been chilling with all the boys,
Speaker 2: huffing and puppet talking. Then my folk girls walked back
Speaker 2: to be like hi, Joby, and then I grabbed it like, yeah,
Speaker 2: y'all know what's up? So, yeah, that was that was
Speaker 2: my That was my little corny nickname, you know, coming
Speaker 2: up being being from Mississippi and going to l A.
Speaker 1: That had to be. Was that a culture shock for
Speaker 1: you because I think did they call you coot to kint?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was you know, I'm Mississippi. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: little smart ass little crack babies.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was well fed.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was smacking them around. I was too big for
Speaker 3: my grade and ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They put them LA kids in school earlier. Do you
Speaker 2: know the Mississippi So you know, they had all kinds
Speaker 2: of names for me.
Speaker 1: So what time did y'all when you were in Mississippi?
Speaker 1: You work? You you hung chickens because you said the
Speaker 1: chickens is a big commodity in Mississippi. Yes, sir, so,
Speaker 1: so you worked, you worked on the like I guess
Speaker 1: in an Arkansas it's called Tyson's or I worked at
Speaker 1: the chicken.
Speaker 3: Plank of Portry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a chicken they had, they got they
Speaker 2: had all kind of chicken plants in Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Sandu's forearm. Uh, what's mine? Marshall Derby?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so so what was you?
Speaker 1: What was you at the plant? Were you a d boner?
Speaker 1: Where you you know?
Speaker 3: You you?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And they sent them through now hot ass water to
Speaker 1: get a lot, to get a lot of the feathers
Speaker 1: off there, you have to do a whole lot.
Speaker 2: They moved me around wherever they needed can be for
Speaker 2: that night, you know what I'm saying. Uh, But sometimes
Speaker 2: I had to. You know, sometimes we take the you know,
Speaker 2: they put them through the plucker, yeah and then or whatever.
Speaker 2: Then we they come out, we put them on the
Speaker 2: little rap. It's been twenty six years. I kind of remember,
Speaker 2: but it's been a minute.
Speaker 1: You started in Mississippi. So you go to California? Did
Speaker 1: you have like and you grew grew up in California?
Speaker 1: Is that where the love? And like you're like, you
Speaker 1: know what, this is what I'm really gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this rap thing now because at that
Speaker 1: point in time, now a now we got NWA and
Speaker 1: we got all the Okay, so watch this.
Speaker 2: In Mississippi, them old black people down there made it
Speaker 2: a point not to play rap music. Better turned that message.
Speaker 2: I'm to get them little switches with them leaves at
Speaker 2: the tip. They didn't play. But I got to LA
Speaker 2: Rap Music had a whole radio station. Like I didn't
Speaker 2: have to sneak it. I could just go in my
Speaker 2: room and just put on KD. And I was in
Speaker 2: the whole rap game, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: you know world premiere stuff back then, Greg Macmacattack, Julio
Speaker 2: g you know all that good junk.
Speaker 1: You sold your CD. A lot of people go to
Speaker 1: the LA Swap meet to sell CD, sell Long's clothing, beats,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. If that was your first
Speaker 1: introduction of becoming a hustler and understanding that you know
Speaker 1: to do to get my music seen and heard, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to just roll up my sleeves and got
Speaker 1: to do it myself. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was ready to. I called myself. I was like
Speaker 3: a quarterback, ready for the fleet flick.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I'm a running myself and then if
Speaker 2: the right companies step up, boom my mom passing it,
Speaker 2: I'm going in for the Touchdokay. So I was hustling
Speaker 2: like that and I started selling mind like I made
Speaker 2: a rap song in the sixth grade. But I made
Speaker 2: cassettes about my teacher in the eighth grade, right, so
Speaker 2: I started selling them in school, and like I was
Speaker 2: selling my tapes in school.
Speaker 3: I was like a little school.
Speaker 1: And see, like, so you're in eighth grade. So that's
Speaker 1: when the dissing of the teacher, the Harry carry all
Speaker 1: that took place around that time.
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah, Harry Carrey was first in the sixth grade,
Speaker 2: and then later on in seventh grade. I was just
Speaker 2: moving around. He couldn't really get established. But in the
Speaker 2: eighth grade I had something to write about, you know,
Speaker 2: when I had the teacher and everything, and I made a.
Speaker 3: Tape in the eighth grade. I learned how to make
Speaker 3: a tape in the eighth grade.
Speaker 1: You know, now, since you've been dis in folks for
Speaker 1: the longest, you understand about the disc the disc song?
Speaker 1: What is the greatest disc track ever? Give me your
Speaker 1: top give me your top five disk tracks ever?
Speaker 3: Number one. I'm gonna say no, Vassaline, okay, Q. There's
Speaker 3: something I like about the Bridge is over.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Cares Well. It's like he rudely took over hip hop.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like he was wrong and nobody could
Speaker 2: stop it right, the bridge is over, the bridges over,
Speaker 2: and he was just like like I didn't even listen
Speaker 2: to mc shan that much, but I was already on
Speaker 2: Carriers One side, like I didn't even know. I play
Speaker 2: a little bit of emsy shand and I respected him
Speaker 2: and I wanted to buy his tape. But I play
Speaker 2: a little bit, but like compared to Carriers one, just
Speaker 2: talking like bad man. I just you know, I had
Speaker 2: to catch shan later. And all due respect to mc
Speaker 2: shann because I do like a lot of his songs,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, but that I just thought,
Speaker 2: like KR is one. You know, he was doing that
Speaker 2: Jamaican stuff and it was old school. I can't put
Speaker 2: it over No Vaciline because like No Vaciline. I'm from
Speaker 2: the West and I could just I was just in
Speaker 2: that whole drama. I was just loving ice Cube. It's
Speaker 2: like he was getting ganged up on by five people.
Speaker 2: Everybody had a burse Damn.
Speaker 1: What about hit him up? Tupac ether nas.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with uh, let's see. I
Speaker 2: like real Compton City gs. You know, you know you
Speaker 2: do distract all kind of distracts.
Speaker 3: You know, Damn. I like Dre Day, okay, but.
Speaker 2: They had easy doing the Running Man. But I do
Speaker 2: like Compton City G's and uh oh, damn, I almost forgot.
Speaker 2: I might have to move this up to round number three.
Speaker 2: Uh and I love I love m C eight, I
Speaker 2: love m C eight, I love m C But DJ
Speaker 2: Quick like that damn whatever that was that? Damn I'm
Speaker 2: gonna shake it to the right and shake it to
Speaker 2: the left hand. Damn what oh that makes me mad?
Speaker 1: Come on, help me.
Speaker 3: It was the DJ Quick m C eight dish.
Speaker 2: I forget what he called it, something about, uh, don't
Speaker 2: make dollars that don't make sense, dollars out.
Speaker 3: Ice cube first.
Speaker 2: And then then maybe DJ I have to have to
Speaker 2: play scrambler, but play with them, them and some of
Speaker 2: the greatest dishes in my opinion. Plus I'm I'm sipping
Speaker 2: on this so I ain't got them in order.
Speaker 1: But why you you got a song called whack Rappers?
Speaker 1: You believe that like rapper Dot Good and the guy
Speaker 1: that you got on his lipt, they're pretty good man.
Speaker 2: I wrote that a long time ago when I was
Speaker 2: giving my hip hop music opinion. Like I entered hip
Speaker 2: hop as a fan I seen, and to me, rap
Speaker 2: music was a verbal king of the hill. I've seen
Speaker 2: rappers not even exist until they dissed people. Nobody knew
Speaker 2: who Carris One was until he dissed mc shan. Nobody
Speaker 2: knew who Snoop Dogg was until he just came in
Speaker 2: the door easy. He could eat a big fat to
Speaker 2: damn homie, who is you?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I was under the impression of this is how
Speaker 2: you you know, and you know, like after hit him up,
Speaker 2: you know, cats started meeting up and fighting and shooting,
Speaker 2: and it got to the point where you could die
Speaker 2: for just trying to check another rapper to a sport.
Speaker 2: So in my younger day, you know, I got you know,
Speaker 2: I felt some kind of I either didn't like the
Speaker 2: hip hop at the time, or I got a condescending
Speaker 2: transaction with him at his show somewhere to the point where.
Speaker 1: Drake is suing his label where are you? Where are
Speaker 1: you on? With uh? With artists, and then sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get there, they're trying to get their
Speaker 1: their their masters back, or they're saying misrepresentation, you stole something.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are surprised that Drake is suing
Speaker 1: the label, considering that that was the big engine and
Speaker 1: Drake is probably the biggest. I don't think it's probably
Speaker 1: he's the biggest rapper in the world right now. It
Speaker 1: has been for at least a decade. Are you surprised
Speaker 1: that he's taking this step to get his masters? No,
Speaker 1: he don't. I think he has his master, but he's
Speaker 1: suing Universal.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know the ins and out of his
Speaker 2: business deal, so I can't. I can't speak on the
Speaker 2: ins and outs of his business deal.
Speaker 1: You were signed a Universal, right, Yes, sir, you had
Speaker 1: a six album six album deal. Do you like being
Speaker 1: independent or do you like being signed to a label?
Speaker 1: I like being independent? What is it about independence? I
Speaker 1: can put out a record when I get ready. They
Speaker 1: got you on the timeline, huh. If that, they might
Speaker 1: not put you out. They might not like what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And there you just signed to him. You know, you
Speaker 1: just you know, they might go on they're messing with
Speaker 1: other people. You're just a piece of paper in a
Speaker 1: foul cabinet. Do you make more? But you have to
Speaker 1: do more work if you're independent? Correct?
Speaker 3: Now, Look here, there's deals every day.
Speaker 1: You gotta.
Speaker 3: Choose.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know nobody. I don't regret signing with you Universal. Okay,
Speaker 2: they had more money than what I was making on
Speaker 2: the street. I was a thousand there, but they had
Speaker 2: some millions. So it was time to stop playing, brush
Speaker 2: off my knees and stand up like okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Now everybody has exports. America has General motors. You know Sony,
Speaker 2: somebody sells Sony TVs and whatever. Everybody has exports. Well,
Speaker 2: my export is rap music. Yes, so I'm selling it
Speaker 2: to the highest bidder. I'm looking for the best. I'm
Speaker 2: looking for the best deal I can get. And then
Speaker 2: it's like this, there's a good deal for today. That's
Speaker 2: not a good deal for tomorrow. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I'm waking up today. Give us this day our
Speaker 2: daily bread.
Speaker 3: You know. So in that day and time, it was
Speaker 3: a good deal. It was a good move.
Speaker 2: Right right after I made that move, and I did
Speaker 2: what I did, and all the positive moves were made,
Speaker 2: there was nothing else to be done. All the positivity
Speaker 2: was done. There was nothing else it was. It was
Speaker 2: on a decline from there, so it was time to
Speaker 2: move on. So there's a time to I mean, if
Speaker 2: everything's good, then it's good. But you know, after it's
Speaker 2: all said and done and they threw with you and
Speaker 2: it ain't no more money, it ain't no more records,
Speaker 2: then I'm better off being independent now.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I was better on a label then, but I'm better
Speaker 2: off independent right now now, Tomorrow, this evening, after this show,
Speaker 2: somebody might come into affirm.
Speaker 3: Man, we got eight million dollars be to signed this
Speaker 3: two year deal.
Speaker 2: Now it's better to make this move right now because
Speaker 2: I'm not pulling this independently. You see what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta wake up every day and make a make
Speaker 2: afi Yeah, brother.
Speaker 1: Right, is there someone that you haven't worked with that
Speaker 1: you'd like to work with?
Speaker 3: Man? Man, these days, I'm a player.
Speaker 2: I want to work with everybody that's reasonable that I
Speaker 2: ain't talking about, you know, killing babies and you know,
Speaker 2: and drinking blood from the devil's neck, you know, all
Speaker 2: kind of crazy stuff I'm looking for. As matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I like doing I do songs with regular fans. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I say, hey, Man, today's five hundred dollars Friday, send
Speaker 2: me five hundred dollars in a beat, you know, And
Speaker 2: because what I realize is it's more about passion than talent.
Speaker 2: I used to think it was about talent and not
Speaker 2: all that other stuff. But you can have talent and
Speaker 2: people just don't like you cause you know, but then
Speaker 2: you can have passion. Everybody biz Marquis, Yes, I can't
Speaker 2: sing word dog first and last rap tape my mama
Speaker 2: ever bought. I grew up in a gospel home, no
Speaker 2: secular music. Yeah, mom broke the rule one time and
Speaker 2: she bought Bis Marquie and he can't sing, but she
Speaker 2: felt his passion.
Speaker 3: She said, I love his song. He kept me up.
Speaker 3: One night.
Speaker 2: I was falling asleep at work. She said this song
Speaker 2: came and she said, I laughed myself back woke. She said,
Speaker 2: I made my ship. So you tour with Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 2: What's it like touring with Snoop? But you know, man,
Speaker 2: nothing but a g thing. Uh, you know, he's an icon,
Speaker 2: so it's a it's a dream. You know, I got
Speaker 2: a picture I met him as a fan, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's what they call it three a full circle
Speaker 2: to share the same stage when it come out and
Speaker 2: warm up the crowd.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So that's a you know,
Speaker 3: that's a that's a browning points for me.
Speaker 1: You you out smoked Snoop.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you yeah,
Speaker 3: because we all team. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You can't ask me in front of the world, Craig
Speaker 2: in front of the world. Yeah, I'll smoke Snoop dog.
Speaker 2: You know I said Snoop can't hang with the Afro
Speaker 2: money making, marijuana smoking m a ed.
Speaker 1: I saw you dance with What are your shows, Audiencly?
Speaker 1: What the dance move you're doing that at the show?
Speaker 2: One is the old school nineteen eighty seven crip walk,
Speaker 2: and then the other one is the running Man. Then
Speaker 2: I got the reverse running Man, and then you know,
Speaker 2: I got to pull some of my old I'm so
Speaker 2: old old dances is new right. So if you hit
Speaker 2: them in front of the young people, they ain't they
Speaker 2: ain't see that. But they was born twenty you know,
Speaker 2: you could be they could be twenty six years old,
Speaker 2: born in two thousand. So I hit that in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety one, eighty nine.
Speaker 3: Funck him up. Oh he went backwards with it.
Speaker 1: Thank you for stalk about. Is there anything you want
Speaker 1: to promote you got an album coming out, You got
Speaker 1: a book coming.
Speaker 2: Out with Yes, Yes, My new album's out right now.
Speaker 2: It's called Freedom of Speech. Y'all check it out. Go
Speaker 2: to og Afroman on YouTube, og Afroman on Instagram and
Speaker 2: stay down with Afromn like both lat Tires and two
Speaker 2: Spain in the twos, the hunger, hustling American.
Speaker 1: Dream, champion of free speech afro Man appreciate it. Yes,
Speaker 1: sir old N, Thank you again, Barbershop, Cooks and contail
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Speaker 2: My life and grinding all my life sacrifice hustle bag
Speaker 2: the price.
Speaker 3: Wanta slice?
Speaker 1: Got to brow the dice to swap all my life?
Speaker 1: I'll be grinding all my life, all.
Speaker 2: My life and grinding all my life sacrifice, hustle bag
Speaker 2: the price. Want a slice?
Speaker 3: Got to brow the dice to.
Speaker 2: Swap all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life.