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Speaker 2: no see we got Josh Rodriguez. What y'all doing?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: How y'all doing? Training camp is here? We need some energy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I need the energy before we went live.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what you Yeah, I need that saving absolutely

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Speaker 5: I needed. Yeah, guys, lots of talk about only in

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Speaker 5: the first three days of training camp so far, But

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Speaker 5: when you talk about the reports that have been out

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Speaker 5: about Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb receiving offers recently for

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Speaker 5: new contract extensions, what's y'all's thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you Nick Cares.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's dominated the dialogue of training camp so far, right,

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Speaker 3: Like it has had nothing to do with what is

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Speaker 3: what's going on at the negotiation table. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I for me, this is this is an unintended pun.

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Speaker 3: But where there's smoke, there's fire. Even though solo stuff

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Speaker 3: smokeless stuff. I got you, man, I got you. But

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Speaker 3: I think where there is smoke, there is fire. When

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Speaker 3: you're talking about these kinds of situations. Now, we could

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Speaker 3: go back to a year ago, was Zach Martin's holdout

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Speaker 3: and kind of how that developed. We weren't really hearing

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Speaker 3: about that this time last year. You know, it kind

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Speaker 3: it was going to be something that lasted the entirety

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Speaker 3: of camp. But also it was with the understanding that

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Speaker 3: there was only about a week of up before we

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Speaker 3: got out to camp that we knew that Zach was

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Speaker 3: gonna hold out. I think there was an understanding that

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Speaker 3: CD was gonna hold out throughout the offseason if a

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Speaker 3: deal wasn't done by camp. So for me, I think

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Speaker 3: a deal with CD gets done rather quick. I think

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Speaker 3: it does. I've been telling just some people around that

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Speaker 3: I think it gets done by the end of next week,

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Speaker 3: but we'll see. I think at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna come down to length of the contract and

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Speaker 3: guaranteed money. I think those are gonna be the two

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Speaker 3: things that maybe have as much hold up as possible.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones said

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Speaker 3: today to not rule out the fact that they could

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Speaker 3: get Dak Prescott done before the season starts. Now, Dak

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Speaker 3: has kind of passed that off into the hands of

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Speaker 3: his representation and has kind of allowed them to make

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Speaker 3: the make the offers and make the make make the

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Speaker 3: bulk of the negotiating. But it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 3: that gets done too. But I feel more confident CD

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Speaker 3: if I were to bet on it, though, I think

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Speaker 3: Dak plays this year out all right well for me.

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Speaker 6: I think that you know, and I've said this on

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Speaker 6: on talking and just in other areas, I think it's

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Speaker 6: a package deal. I think you have to look at

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Speaker 6: it as a package deal between CD Lamb and Deck Prescott.

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Speaker 6: Obviously ceedee Lamb can be a wide receiver one anywhere

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Speaker 4: But you saw what he was unable to do.

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Speaker 6: When Dak was not on the field, production dipped a

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Speaker 6: little bit versus when Dak Prescott is on the field.

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Speaker 6: He's a first team All Pro, he's a record cetter,

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Speaker 6: he's one of the best to ever wear the number

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Speaker 6: eighty eight for the Cowboys. So I think while you're

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Speaker 6: working to get CD done, that's why they're actively simultaneously

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Speaker 6: with the other, which is why I'm not surprised that,

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Speaker 6: you know, they let it. Let it be known today

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Speaker 6: that Dak Prescott received a recent offer as well. And now,

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Speaker 6: of course it's no coincidence that times up with Jordan

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Speaker 6: Love's deal getting done to his deal getting done as well.

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Speaker 4: I think enough leaves have.

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Speaker 6: Fallen for Jerry and Stephen Jones, so now they're saying,

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Speaker 6: okay with these other this is the market, here's where

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Speaker 6: the bar is, and here's how we can negotiate these numbers.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with Nick Harris.

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Speaker 6: I think the CD LAMB deal gets done fairly quickly,

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Speaker 6: and prior to camp I said I believe that it

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Speaker 6: the end of the second week. We're tracking for that,

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Speaker 6: and it's possible now that Neck Prescott gets his deal

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Speaker 6: two blockbuster deals landing for the Cowboys in the second

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Speaker 4: Might be fun next week.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking if it does linger, it's CD is going

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Speaker 7: to be ready either way. He can plug and play.

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Speaker 7: It's it's not necessarily as dire as a situation as

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Speaker 7: Zach Martin was coming into that uh training camp last year,

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Speaker 7: where it was very I feel like there was some

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Speaker 7: desperation going on with the offensive line making sure that

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Speaker 7: it was set for week one. CD's plug and play.

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Speaker 7: In the meantime, we've even brought this up on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Shouts Talking Cowboys that this gives an opportunity to a

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Speaker 7: lot of the wide receivers that are behind Cede Lamb

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Speaker 7: coming up to take that spot, take those reps and

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Speaker 7: uh we said it on Talking Cowboys, Turpy Turkey speed

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Speaker 7: speed this name, No, this is this is a solid.

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Speaker 4: VERI I'll give it to you, Josh, you agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna give it to him. No, I didn't

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Speaker 3: say anything, I just said I'm giving.

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Speaker 7: It to I'm onterfing please change your handle at turpy

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Speaker 7: turvy speed speed you will Now that's just us. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I'm starting it now as we're going with speed speed.

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Speaker 4: What about you?

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Speaker 8: No, No, ask him tomorrow, ask.

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Speaker 7: Him, go straight to him. Okay, No, we're cool. Like

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Speaker 7: I saw him at Target. I saw him at Target

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Speaker 7: and I was like, mister, I actually didn't say no.

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Speaker 7: I went up to him and I was like, hey, Cavante,

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Speaker 7: I have this nickname. I think it's a really good idea.

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Speaker 7: And he's like, get away from me, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 7: that's kind of how it went.

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Speaker 8: Not really well, No, allot, how to that? I mean,

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Speaker 8: I'm tired of contract talks, but that never ends, you

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Speaker 8: know it. It tugs that every year feels like every

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Speaker 8: year we get out here, there's some type of contract

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Speaker 8: talk in the recent years that we're doing. So hopefully

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Speaker 8: they can figure it out get something done rather quickly,

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Speaker 8: and especially because I do think it's highly like it's

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Speaker 8: they've been doing really, really good and taking advantage of that,

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Speaker 8: but at the same time, you do need to keep

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Speaker 8: that chemistry going. I've said it on previous shows where

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Speaker 8: I don't want it to take multiple games for them

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Speaker 8: to get going together. It's one thing you're practicing in

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Speaker 8: a game where you have now defenders and other teams

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Speaker 8: trying to run those routes, but you weren't able to

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Speaker 8: spend money during the off season on other things. You're

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Speaker 8: having to save all this money for the things the

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Speaker 8: contracts that are up very very soon. So hopefully we

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Speaker 8: can get this talk done and freaking start talking about football.

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Speaker 3: I hate to break it too, but I think once

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Speaker 3: these two contracts get done, then we're talking about Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not good goes on.

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Speaker 3: It makes you wonder what those guys are, you know,

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Speaker 3: like the Osus who's going into a contract year, the

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Speaker 3: he's he's kind of teetered with the idea of retirement

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Speaker 3: There are thirty players on this roster right now going

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Speaker 6: So I think the interesting thing will be, you know,

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Speaker 6: unlike players like Ceedee Lamb and the Dak Prescott's and

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Speaker 6: the Michael Parsons of the world. As we have this conversation,

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Speaker 6: obviously it could change over the neck, you know, over

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Speaker 6: free agency. But at the same time, as we have

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Speaker 6: this conversation, he's not a market center just yet, and

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Speaker 6: that could work into the cowboys favor. So if they

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Speaker 6: can get Ceede Lamb and Dak Prescott done, which I

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Speaker 6: think we agree they will, then Michael Parsons becomes at

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Speaker 6: that time the only potential market center and everybody else

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Speaker 6: welcome conversation, which just like, yeah, because the Cowboys don't

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Speaker 6: like set in the market.

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Speaker 4: That's the hold up on a lot of their content.

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Speaker 6: But that's why they were able to get a guy

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Speaker 6: like Treyvon Diggs done early last year because last summer

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Speaker 6: because he didn't set the market.

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of the conversation.

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Speaker 2: But why is that? Why is it that the cowboys

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Speaker 2: do not like setting the market realistic?

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Speaker 3: Do we?

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Speaker 4: Who's got Cherio's number? Anybody got Jerry and c?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 7: But the song added benefits to doing that too. I mean,

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Speaker 7: like I got it done, get it done. I mean

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Speaker 7: I got five on it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like fi dollars?

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Speaker 4: Can we throw in a solo stage as well? What's

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Speaker 4: your five five million, five hundred five bucks?

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Speaker 2: I think he meant five dollars?

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Speaker 7: Think Josh st financial, Josha stretching them being honest, Josh,

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Speaker 3: Mean you say that about one second too. If you

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Speaker 3: have MICHAEH. Parsons, there's probably no other market resetters. But

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Speaker 3: you would have to think if Jake Ferguson has a

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Speaker 3: probably in that conversation. Doron Bland is probably.

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Speaker 4: As an earlier guy as early as twenty five though.

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Speaker 6: One Jake Ferguson, I think Jake Ferguson is a mark

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Speaker 6: set a conversation for twenty six man.

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Speaker 3: He would be going he's got two years solve on this. Yeah, yes, summer.

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Speaker 3: That's Jake Ferguson Deronland.

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Speaker 6: And for the record, I do believe Jake Ferguson's going

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Speaker 6: into an All Pro season. I think he comes out, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So that's actually a great point.

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Speaker 6: But it also goes to not just you know the

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Speaker 6: fact that the Cowboys don't like set in the market,

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Speaker 6: which I agree, and I'm on the record of saying this,

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Speaker 6: I would be less concerned with setting a market that's

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Speaker 6: going to be reset shortly thereafter anyway, because at most positions,

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Speaker 6: especially the quarterback position, if you if you set the market,

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Speaker 6: that's going to be couch changed in like five six

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Speaker 6: months from now, if that, and the same goals for cornerbacks,

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Speaker 6: because who's coming to do.

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Speaker 4: I think certain's coming to do.

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Speaker 6: Sauce is going to come do here, So worry for me,

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Speaker 6: I would worry less about setting the market and more

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Speaker 4: Right because the market doesn't stop.

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Speaker 8: Well, what's interesting to me more so of okay, we're

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Speaker 9: Everybody everybody eight next year, hold out of camp there, now, yeegotiate,

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Speaker 7: Honestly, it's wild.

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Speaker 3: It's wild, but it's an interesting, fascinating you mentioned that,

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Speaker 3: And Dak Prescott he said a couple of times like, hey,

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Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, keep that value rising

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Speaker 3: Like it could be like a Lebron team friendly deal

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Speaker 4: I do think that he he'd either said the market

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Speaker 6: Something that Dak Prescott said on Friday that really stuck

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott agreed to reworking his deal earlier this offseason

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Lebron. Look at how rugged the solo stuff is.

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Speaker 7: Like, it's playing the Olympics handball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Olympic season.

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Speaker 6: I was like, but yeah, Dak Prescott, he's willing to

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Speaker 4: Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 6: Jerry Jones is saying, oh, I'm the biggest fan of

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Speaker 4: We want him in. I don't see a situation where

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Speaker 6: But there are times in my life when I've you know,

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Speaker 3: Can we go down that path just for just for giggles,

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Speaker 3: And even if you do, you're spending a lot of

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Speaker 3: You would have to bank on maybe what you have here.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, Cooper Rush is and

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Speaker 6: He's more of a cerebral gunslinger. He's not full Brett

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Speaker 4: Up to MVP.

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Speaker 7: Let me ask a question, and I know you guys,

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Speaker 6: You're surprising because of the size of each deal, let

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Speaker 2: Well, hopefully over the next couple of days, we're talking

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Speaker 3: And they just added two receiver bodies to that room

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00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 3: today and Kelvin Harmon formerly at the DC Defenders of

437
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: the UFL, and then Deontay Burnett, formerly of the Arlington

438
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 3: Reneagades of the UFL. So two more guys just kind

439
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 3: of add within that mix. I mean, there's a there's

440
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: a lot of talent in that receiving room. It's just

441
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of proven talent. But I think

442
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 3: they should be comfortable with what they have.

443
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Speaker 8: But let me say this, and I'm not trying to

444
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Speaker 8: be pessimistic because I'm a very optimistic person. I'm a

445
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 8: very optimistic person. I looked up.

446
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, a little a little attitude.

447
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, is a bright bit of sunshine in our day.

448
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not a cool but you know, I bring

449
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 8: some optimisity. I try to bring everybody. But my point,

450
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 8: my point is, and I don't want this to be

451
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 8: taken the wrong way, because I actually love everything that

452
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 8: I'm seeing from those younger players at wide receiver. But

453
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 8: I've been here like ten times now, like a ten years,

454
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 8: and every time, like it always happens when players tend

455
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Speaker 8: to stand out at camp, and it doesn't always necessarily

456
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 8: translates into the season. So again, I'm just trying to

457
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 8: take it slow, slow down before getting way too excited.

458
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 8: I love, absolutely love everything they're showing at this very moment,

459
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 8: but we got to remember that we got to wait

460
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 8: for those preseason games see how they actually look, and

461
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 8: wait to see at the start of the season how

462
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 8: it actually plays out, because I've seen them personally way

463
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 8: too often where you do see players like that, specifically

464
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Speaker 8: wide receivers stand out at train camp and then it

465
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 8: just kind of slowly starts fading away.

466
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Speaker 3: Over here because I was a couple of names immediately

467
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 3: came to mind, and I was just kind of give

468
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Speaker 3: them a little bit. But I mean, hell, the Pats

469
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: even haven't even come on yet.

470
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Speaker 6: And I believe that definitely applies to a guy like

471
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Speaker 6: Jayalen Cropper, David Dirton as he comes back from injury,

472
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Speaker 6: and some of the young guys Tyring Billy Johnson. But

473
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 6: when you talk about like a Jalen Brooks, for example,

474
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Speaker 6: Jalen Brooks was one of the standouts from last year's camp.

475
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Speaker 6: But when given the opportunity, I should say, and when

476
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Speaker 6: given the opportunities during the regular season, albeit limited capacity,

477
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Speaker 6: he took advantage of those Every snap, Yeah, every single

478
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 6: snap you didn't see a drop.

479
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Speaker 8: You saw a very few of those come along.

480
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 6: Yes, you saw instant chemistry between him and Dak Prescott.

481
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 6: You saw trust from Dak to make the throws that

482
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Speaker 6: he was making a Jalen Brooks that maybe he probably

483
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Speaker 6: you know, most quarterbacks would think and say, hey, this

484
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Speaker 6: is a seventh round pick.

485
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Speaker 4: I don't know you like that. So he was making those.

486
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Speaker 6: Throws and then Jalen Brooks was rewarding him. So what

487
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 6: you're saying is one hundred percent accurate when it comes

488
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Speaker 6: to the others. But when it comes to like Jalen Brooks,

489
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Speaker 6: Cavante Turpin who got more involved jay So when we're

490
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Speaker 6: talking about what I call the law firm of Jalen, Jalen,

491
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Speaker 6: and Jayleen, you die. But when it comes to those

492
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 6: three guys, two of those guys aren't necessarily proven, but

493
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 6: they've proven in season games that they can definitely take

494
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 6: the step and be the wide receiver. Three the rest,

495
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 6: like Abar said, we need to see how it shakes

496
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Speaker 6: out in preseason games and then hopefully if they can

497
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Speaker 6: make the active roster, then that's really when they're going

498
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Speaker 6: to be tested. But even those guys, they're gonna have

499
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 6: to do a lot of work on special teams to

500
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Speaker 6: help earn their way onto the active roster.

501
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, because the wide receiver three is already taken

502
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Speaker 7: up by guess.

503
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Speaker 2: This guy.

504
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Speaker 3: So who are your five receivers on the roster?

505
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Speaker 4: Here we go, Yeah, let's go for me. Okay, let's see,

506
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Speaker 4: Uh can I carry? Wait?

507
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Speaker 2: Can we positively? Can we get us more something?

508
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Speaker 7: That's why I'm here. I'm gonna be.

509
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Speaker 4: I was You're right, they're right here, ladies, in the

510
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Speaker 4: perfect use.

511
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Speaker 7: For the sore by.

512
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Speaker 2: The official fire pit of the Dallas.

513
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Speaker 6: Whilst I'm preparing my more. My question of the Harris

514
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 6: is can I Can I carry a plus one?

515
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: Yes? Because Turping is your plus one?

516
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so if Turpin's my plus one, I'm going, uh,

517
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 4: Turbo Turp.

518
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Speaker 6: That's better, definitely, Ladies and gentlemen, you be the judge

519
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 6: Turbo Turp or Ty speeds this or take money money?

520
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 4: We got three options.

521
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 6: Now I'm going Ceedie Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Jalen Tobart, Jalen Brooks, Cavante,

522
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Speaker 6: Turpin and.

523
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: Wait said it one more time?

524
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Speaker 6: Okay from the from the you see the small got

525
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 6: your hippo. That's what happened to me last year and

526
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 6: it didn't end well. So ceedy Lamb, the Lamb, Brandon Cooks,

527
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 6: Jalen Tobert, Jalen Brooks, Cavante Turpin and my sixth. I

528
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 6: gotta I gotta keep the rookie on. I gotta give

529
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 6: Ryan Flinoy a chance. I gotta give him a chance.

530
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 6: He's a draft pick you you know, don't want to

531
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Speaker 6: immediately risk him the waivers or anything like that.

532
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: And he's a freak athlete. So that that's my sixth.

533
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: Who you got?

534
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Speaker 3: Who you got? Yeah, I would probably have the same

535
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: crew as with the caveat that Flinoy which we have

536
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: found out here at training camp that it is pronounced flinoy, Yes,

537
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 3: silent bar. Yeah, shout out to Kyle Yeomens. He got

538
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: that ball rolling. But I think if you're not taking Flinoy,

539
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: if if injury kind of catches up to him and

540
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: he probably needs a year on the practice squad and

541
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Speaker 3: you think you can retain him, then I think Tyrn

542
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Speaker 3: Billy Johnson might be that sixth guy. I mean, you

543
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: look at the length that he has, the speed that

544
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 3: he has. He's a guy that can play on the outside.

545
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: He has the experience. You look at all the receivers

546
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 3: on the roster. He is third in career total yardage,

547
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: so like he has he has the reps, he has

548
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: the experience. I think that would probably be the guy

549
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Speaker 3: that is competing as much as possible with floy.

550
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 4: And who you got. Everybody's got to put their five

551
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: or sticks on the table.

552
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Speaker 8: I don't do that this early.

553
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I just want to see more. It's impossible.

554
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 7: I want to see more.

555
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 8: Jalen Brooks, you're just throwing out names.

556
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: I guess we're not just throwing out names as pretty much.

557
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 4: This is that ball of some shine.

558
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

559
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's called age and wisdom.

560
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Speaker 3: I know what I've learned through the year ten years.

561
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: And she said, get that right, look at the receipts.

562
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Speaker 8: Experience. I think I've been hitting the face too many times.

563
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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's just I didn't say anything.

564
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Speaker 3: I didn't.

565
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Speaker 4: You have to bite that. Yeah, oh she went Spanish.

566
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Speaker 4: I'm doing.

567
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Speaker 6: Whenever she accidentally switches over the sos, you just have

568
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Speaker 6: to leave that b Yeah, stupid.

569
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Speaker 7: You know almost Amber is actually a lot nicer, you know,

570
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Speaker 7: I believe that. Yeah, she's like she's like I wish

571
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 7: she's around. She actually is a ray of sunshine on

572
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Speaker 7: someone she's around, Carlos and.

573
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: Ray of sunshine and a spanole.

574
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Speaker 6: She even said that softly. Yeah, her dog slide comes

575
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 6: out when the English comes out.

576
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: Okay, seeing this, this rough side of ambar, I don't get.

577
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 7: That stopping stopping the neutral host. Get off the fence, Kyle.

578
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: We you and I both know that. Kyle.

579
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: You know Kyle's watching.

580
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 7: She is as rugged as a solo.

581
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: Dot com.

582
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 8: Look at this more. It's perfect. See Patrick, what you

583
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 8: passed the what you call me?

584
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: What you called me a sticky stick turbo.

585
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Speaker 3: Another, Yeah, it might be break time here, pretty go ahead,

586
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: go ahead. That I don't need more. So that's all, y'all, y'all.

587
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: What's impressed y'all about John Stevens so far to the

588
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: first three days?

589
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 6: Honestly number one and this goes back to just seeing

590
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 6: him for the first time and Mini Camp and OTAs

591
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 6: and Nick Harrison and I had a conversation with him today.

592
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 4: It's the added weight that he put on, but it's

593
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: the type of weight that he put on.

594
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: So he specified today that he put on twelve pounds,

595
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 6: but I love the fact that he had a plan

596
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 6: coming into this offseason, said he spoke with the nutritionists

597
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 6: and the training staff and Britt Brown, and his goal

598
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 6: was to add weight, but it wanted He wanted it

599
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 6: to be lean muscle, which would allow him to improve

600
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 6: on his blocking skills because he's he's a formal receiver

601
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 6: turn tight end, so catching the ball and making plays

602
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 6: downfield is not going to be an issue for him,

603
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 6: but he needed to improve his master he can be

604
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 6: a better blocker to help the Cowboys run game when

605
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 6: he's placed in line as a blocker. But he didn't

606
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 6: want to just boke up because then he might lose

607
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 6: speed and quickness as far as being able to, you know,

608
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 6: go downfield. So I love that part of it and

609
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 6: the mentality, the mental part of the game. As far

610
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 6: as coming back from the torn a c L. He

611
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 6: looks to be in good spirits. He's moving well. Doesn't

612
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 6: look like he's favoring that as far as overthinking it

613
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 6: and not trusting it. So I think he's going to

614
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 6: get back to impressing everybody in his second training can.

615
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 7: I just want everyone to acknowledge that Nicholes being a

616
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 7: consummate professor.

617
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 6: I want everybody to acknowledge that I did very well

618
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 6: completing my professional point.

619
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: Did wh this was going on?

620
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 7: She couldn't get a marshmallow on a stick?

621
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: Guy.

622
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: I was struggling. I was really struggling.

623
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: But no, go ahead, Nick, Yeah, I think it's gonna

624
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: be really interesting to see how he has developed over

625
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: the year mentally, because I think that's going to be

626
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: the biggest the biggest thing for him, and being able

627
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: to make that transition to tight end as an inline blocker,

628
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: and that that was kind of a lot of our

629
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: conversation with him Patrick. I think him trying to take

630
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, oh you're about to okay, hurry.

631
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: Out, hurry up, Okay, fire Marshall, Billy.

632
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: Something, We're about to go on a permanent break. But

633
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: I think I think if he can kind of marry

634
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: this new added weight, this new added frame that he

635
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: has with his skill set and he can find some

636
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: knacks at the point of attack in the run game,

637
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna find a spot on this roster. I think

638
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: with this tight end room. It's crazy because this time

639
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: of year ago we were we were worried about who

640
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: was going to be the starter and much much less

641
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: who was going to fill out the roster. Now you

642
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: have all of these other young guys who are really

643
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: They've shown that they can They shown that they can

644
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 3: be either a receiving threat or a guy that can

645
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: get after to the point of attack. They need a

646
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: little bit more from from the guys who are trying

647
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: to block in the run game. But I think if

648
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: they can kind of figure that out here in the preseason,

649
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: they're going to find a pretty good group of tight ends.

650
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: You got to keep your cap to coach Londa Wells

651
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: and that room and that room, because they've all they've

652
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: all treated it really well.

653
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: And I also kind of makes you wonder about what

654
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: do you do with Peyton Hindershot, you know, because this

655
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Speaker 2: is a guy who you obviously expected to come in

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Speaker 2: this year and so far I haven't seen much in

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Speaker 2: training camp so far. It's still a little early, but

658
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Speaker 2: it's been up in the air. And when you talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, in past pro and things like that, there

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Speaker 2: were a couple of plays in practice yesterday where you

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Speaker 2: just see him really struggling, and obviously that's very important

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Speaker 2: to this Titan room in the way that they run

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Speaker 2: their offense. But I'm gonna be really excited to see

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Speaker 2: like that battle with John Stevens, Peyton Hendershon where how

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Speaker 2: they kind of Revin span Ford all those guys. I

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Speaker 2: mean that Titan room is deep, guys, really deep.

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Speaker 8: And look schoom Maker. I mean he he's a guy

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Speaker 8: that even though last year he struggled with a couple

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Speaker 8: And actually, somebody asked me today out in the crowd,

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Speaker 8: about is look Schoolmaker, because he does put in that

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Speaker 8: extra work. You see him putting it even last year.

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Speaker 8: So I think he hopefully has that jump this year

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Speaker 8: where he gets the ability and the opportunity to just

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Speaker 8: what do you say this contributing more, contributing more on offense.

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Speaker 8: So I think that's another guy to keep an eye

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Speaker 8: on this year.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the thing is with Schoolmaker is he just needs

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Speaker 6: to remain healthy, right because he had the plan to

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Speaker 6: a fast shot. This issue that held him out of

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Speaker 6: training camp last year, and then as a rookie without

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Speaker 6: a training camp. Of course, that's going to set you

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Speaker 6: up for a slow starting and kind of a tough season.

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Speaker 4: But then this.

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Speaker 6: Offseason he has the hamstring issue right, and but thankfully

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Speaker 6: he's on the field.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't placed on the pup list. I've already seen

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Speaker 4: him making some plays.

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Speaker 6: But with Schoolmaker, once he you know, as long as

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Speaker 6: he continues to remain healthy for him, then it's about

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Speaker 6: establishing himself as a pass catcher versus simply an elite blocker,

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Speaker 6: which is at Michigan he was an elite blocker.

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Speaker 4: Are you did you did you melt the chocolate? Okay?

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Speaker 4: You shook ones?

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Speaker 8: How is he gonna melt it?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Just hold it over? We'll talk about it. So Schoolmaker,

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Speaker 6: You go remain healthy for Luke Schoolmaker and show that

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Speaker 6: you can be a pass catcher as as you know,

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Speaker 6: as far as two personnels at two tight end sets

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Speaker 6: opposite Jake Ferguson. If you can do that, it's gonna

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Speaker 6: go a long way, especially for the Cowboys offense, because

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Speaker 6: that means if Jake Ferguson and Luke Schoolmaker are potential

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Speaker 6: pass catchers. It's not so much of a tail when

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Speaker 6: Schoolmaker is on the field, even if it's just a

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Speaker 4: The Schoolmaker's on the field right.

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Speaker 6: Now, it's probably a run play and the defensive coordators

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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, you weren't trying to eat that.

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Speaker 2: You listen to aim on how to get advice on?

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Speaker 4: First of all, what we're not gonna do.

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Speaker 2: That's where you first messed we're not gonna do.

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Speaker 4: I didn't protect no protect land bar. But you're coming

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Speaker 4: from me.

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Speaker 7: Let's no shot the camera.

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Speaker 3: Look about a beautiful spore that.

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Speaker 4: I say, mission accomplished.

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Speaker 7: All right, mil the whole thing right now, one by

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Speaker 7: the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh that ground crack is toast, bro.

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Speaker 4: Its great talking down to Texas.

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Speaker 7: No, I just said that we're better than the people

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Speaker 8: Hey, just because you started being on a podcast, now

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm appalled at this.

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Speaker 4: Let's cook actually Okay.

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Speaker 2: Alright, guys, Mazzie Smith, Okay, who was he fighting with?

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Speaker 8: Did anybody see this? Nobody saw this? Who he was beefing?

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Speaker 8: With not today, it was yesterday. So yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 8: they do the whole thing, and then they take off

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Speaker 8: the helmet and the helmets, and then they go back

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Speaker 8: in and do a few more things right at the end,

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Speaker 8: helmets off and everything. I don't know who it was with,

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Speaker 8: but he was all I saw was defense, but it

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Speaker 8: had to be somebody on offense, because that's the one

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Speaker 8: thing that makes sense. So he was like extremely upset

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Speaker 8: and like he did and it was about to throw

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Speaker 8: some hands. But then I saw everybody like from defense

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Speaker 8: come in and like huddle and calm him down. And

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Speaker 8: then Sam Williams came in and he's like, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: Let's hug it out.

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Speaker 8: Williams have a big smile on here, so he's like,

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Speaker 8: let's all hug it out. Come on co Yes, But nobody,

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Speaker 8: I keep asking people. Nobody seems to have seen this happen.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, I like to hear that.

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Speaker 6: I like to hear that Mazzi has that fire coming

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Speaker 6: into year two because there is a lot of pressure

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Speaker 6: Jonathan Hankins anymore. He has a lot of expectations from

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Speaker 6: Mike Zimmer coming in in year one. So it's it's

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Speaker 6: Mazzi's second year and it's his second defensive coordinator. He

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Speaker 6: lost weight, a lot of weight last year. He had

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Speaker 6: to put the weight back on, and now he's gonna

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Speaker 6: have to get back to playing Michigan style football, eating

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Speaker 6: up double teams, being that definitive nose tackle.

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Speaker 4: His weight looks phenomenal. I think that he is.

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Speaker 6: In fact, like Mike McCarthy said, I think he's very

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Speaker 6: close to whatever that goal weight was. If I had

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Speaker 6: to speculate, i'd sage three twenty. I think he's he's

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Speaker 6: right there. He definitely looks over three hundred. But more

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Speaker 6: than that, there were questions about, you know, not inside

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Speaker 6: the building, but from a lot of the fans. When

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Speaker 6: he lost the weight, did he lose some of his power?

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Speaker 6: That power that we saw day one, day two, it's

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Speaker 6: there in spades. But today what I saw, and you

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Speaker 6: were standing right next to me when I was taking

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Speaker 4: I got the video there in slow motion, his get

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Speaker 4: Nick you want to Nick Harris, I just want to

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Speaker 6: But his his get his get off on the snap

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Speaker 6: was the quickest I've seen thus far. And I'm talking

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Speaker 6: about the totality of his film from last year. I've

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Speaker 6: not seen my as he get off the ball this quick.

873
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 6: Clearly he's been working with Nina, and he's been working

874
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: with Greg Ellis, he's been working with Mike Zimmer. So

875
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 6: not only is the weight there and the power is

876
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 6: still there his record sitting power from Michigan, but his get.

877
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: Off is right there. There was a fourth down man,

878
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: a four man down set.

879
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 6: It was Sam Williams on the right edge, right Olso Diggi,

880
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 6: Zua Mazzi was the one tech and then to his

881
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 6: left was rookie second round pick Marshawn Kneeland. And Mazi

882
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 6: was quicker than everybody except Sam Williams. But I think

883
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: that he was even a hair quicker than Sam Williams.

884
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 6: And Sam Williams to me, has the quickest first step

885
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 6: outside of Michael Parsons on this defense as far as

886
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 6: the edge. So if Mozi can put it all together

887
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 6: and consistently build on what I saw today, what I

888
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 6: saw yesterday, then he'll be more than all right. The

889
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 6: Cowboys will be more than fine. As far as d

890
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 6: T one, I should say NT one. The question then

891
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 6: becomes what does that rotation look like behind him?

892
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think for me it's it's I did

893
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: this last year too. I don't even look at those

894
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: guys in the trenches until the pads come on. But

895
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting thing that you could at

896
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: least look at as to get off, because that is

897
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: something that I think could translate whenever the pads get on.

898
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: And that was the biggest one of the bigger criticisms

899
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: that he had last year was that he was sloganing

900
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: off the ball, he couldn't get after the pocket. And

901
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: I think if he can kind of show that he's

902
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: gonna do those two things, then maybe this defensive tackle

903
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: question can be absolved a little bit easier, because for me,

904
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: that's easily the biggest concern going into training camps. This

905
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: defensive tackle situation like not only an unproven one tech

906
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: that you're going to have to start, whether it be

907
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith, seventh round pick Justin Rodgers or undrafted free

908
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: agent Denzel Decks. And but you look at the three

909
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: tech position with Osa a Digizua. We almost saw it

910
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: because he was battling a hamstring injury during mini camp.

911
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: But if he goes down, who's behind him? We talking

912
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: about Chauncey Golston or we talk about maybe Marshaw Neiland

913
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: Villiami Fajoco like who slides into that role. And I

914
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: think you would be asking somebody to play out a

915
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: position to take over for Osa Digizua. So I mean

916
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: that interior defensive line. It is a major concern for

917
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: me right now overall, but I would like to see

918
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: what Mazzie Smith has to do whenever the pads come

919
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 3: on in this preseason. I think it's gonna be really

920
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: really big for him. I like that.

921
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, ahead, I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been any

922
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 7: added veterans at the one technique and getting getting somebody

923
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 7: in there, a veteran that could take place with Mazzi

924
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 7: if need be. But at this point, I think it

925
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 7: goes to show the progress that Mazzie's made since the

926
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 7: end of the season. They know something that we don't,

927
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 7: obviously with it without getting invested veteran in here in

928
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 7: the door right now, but there's still time.

929
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: I think they have an ace up their sleep.

930
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 6: I do believe they have an ap their sleeve. Put

931
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 6: it as long as the ace that I'm thinking of

932
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 6: remains a free agent until they need to put it

933
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 6: out exactly exactly. And I've said the name on the podcast,

934
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 6: but I'm not going to say here because now I can.

935
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 4: I didn't want other teams to Will McLay Stephen.

936
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 6: I was trying to help you out on the podcast,

937
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 6: but not this because I can wise up right.

938
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: I thought about it like you don't think.

939
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 8: Other scouts and teams, no, oh, what free agents are available.

940
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're doing in their house. I'm

941
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: trying to keep our house right, Okay, Okay, well, how

942
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: was gonna do it? How he does? But we agree.

943
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 6: I think that's the I think that's the ace of

944
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 6: the Cowboys sleeve. As long as a guy like Linval Joseph,

945
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 6: who obviously has the pre existing relationship with Mike Zimmer,

946
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: much like Eric Kendricks had, I think that's that's great.

947
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 6: If it were to come to fruition, my question for you,

948
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 6: Josh would be simply this, Yes, I believe the Cowboys

949
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 6: they always know more than we know about the players

950
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 6: in the development and it's showing with Mazi for example,

951
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: Like right now, those questions are slowly starting to be

952
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 6: answered and hopefully they will be answered by the time

953
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 6: you know, camp breaks August twenty second. Okay, that being said,

954
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 6: even assuming Mazzi pans out, you still have a depth

955
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 6: issue as far as who is it Carl Davis, is

956
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 6: it Denzel Dackson, is it you know, rookie seventh round

957
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 6: pick Justin Rodgers. What does Chauncey Ghoston fall into that

958
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 6: going into his contract year? Who he to have a

959
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 6: big year as well?

960
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: So that's my question.

961
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 6: So even if Mazzie Smith and I and I believe

962
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 6: that he definitely looking at what I'm looking at, I

963
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 6: believe that he can be that answer to n T one.

964
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: But behind him, what you who? The question is who?

965
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 7: I think the way they're playing Joseph's side, I think

966
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 7: they're planning on him to be that guy. And if

967
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 7: you're a team with a cap issue at the moment,

968
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 7: you may not be able to get a Linvald Joseph

969
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 7: at this point.

970
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: That cap issue can't don't get me.

971
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 7: Possibly in the realm of as maybe possibly, uh, but

972
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 7: that's what I think. I think after camp they'll know

973
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 7: exactly where Mazzi's at, once he's in pads, once he's

974
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 7: on the field again going up against a new look

975
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 7: offensive line. I think then you'll kind of tell where

976
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 7: they want Mazy to if he's going to be where

977
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 7: they want him to be, and then what type of

978
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 7: depth they're gonna bring. Is it gonna be someone that

979
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 7: starts ahead of Mazzi or just depth.

980
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: We'll get this deal done with Lamb and Dak and

981
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: you have plenty more cap.

982
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 8: Space that would be year two, like you cannot. You

983
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 8: cannot use your first round pick and not use him

984
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 8: on year two. Like you know that again, that is

985
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 8: very highly valuable, especially when you don't have money to

986
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 8: be spending on free agency, when you're not making big

987
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 8: splashes during free agency. Now you're heading into year two

988
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 8: and he has like it's not a choice he has

989
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 8: he might have exactly so now hopefully by them bringing

990
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 8: in Mike Zimmer to put some magic on the defense,

991
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 8: hopefully that will coach him the right way. Not only

992
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 8: you cannot be coming over.

993
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: The effect that.

994
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: I disagree.

995
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 4: I didn't know you were so passionate about glitter. I apologize.

996
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 7: I hope you and glitter have four man can't judge.

997
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 8: Look who's talking those cupcakes at the start with glitter.

998
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 8: Patrick will be eating them and have glitter all over

999
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 8: his face. I wash your face before you go home.

1000
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 4: Your wife's glitter glitters, not from the copcakes. That's aura.

1001
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: So let's just get there right.

1002
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 7: He's not only he's a twilight vampire.

1003
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: That's what it is.

1004
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: No, don't worry Mike Zimmer and yeah it's it's not

1005
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: only Mike Zimmer. I think coming in to potentially help

1006
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: Mazzi Smith. But the addition of defensive line coach Jeff

1007
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: Skanino was very intentional, if you will. A seventeen year

1008
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: NFL veteran at the defensive tackle position, played from nineteen

1009
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: ninety three to two thousand and nine, so he saw

1010
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: a lot of eras of football, a lot of different

1011
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: eras of physicality. He has he has a knowledge in

1012
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: his brain as a defensive line coach that will be

1013
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: able to help Mazzie Smith, and you've seen those two

1014
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: guys really connect here Knox Snard so far. You talk

1015
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 3: about whatever disagreement Ozzie Smith may have had with somebody yesterday,

1016
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: Scanina was the first one in there to kind of

1017
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: help bridge everything and get Mozzie cooled down and bringing

1018
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: him off the field. So h that's big time. And

1019
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: especially if it's if it's a relationship that he can

1020
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: be hard on him but they're still love at the

1021
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: end of the day. I think that's really what Mozzie

1022
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: Smith needs at needs this season. But we're gonna see

1023
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: that relationship really foster as the year goes on. But

1024
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: it's very intentional why Jeff Scanina is in this building

1025
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: right now.

1026
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: And it's also evident with Scanina and Mike Zimmer and

1027
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: what they've brought to not only Mazzie, but how they're

1028
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: kind of revamping Micah Parsons you know approach to this

1029
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season. And he kind of mentioned in

1030
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: his press conference yesterday that you know, he had like

1031
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: a little reality check, had some tough conversations with some

1032
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: of his teammates, some of the coaches, and how he's

1033
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: you know doing more as a leader, how much are

1034
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: you guys just looking forward to seeing that more so

1035
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: on the field.

1036
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 6: Visibly, It goes without saying I'm absolutely looking forward to

1037
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 6: see it. One thing I love that Michael said. I

1038
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 6: love I loved a lot of what Michael said and

1039
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 6: when he got to the podium late this week, but

1040
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 6: one thing stuck out to me most and it relates

1041
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 6: to Mazzie Smith. Okay, so he's asked the question about Mozzi,

1042
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 6: how's Mazzi coming along? And what does Michael Parsons say.

1043
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 6: Michael Parson says, it's not about what I know expect

1044
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 6: to hope Mazzi to do. Mozzi has to go out

1045
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 6: and he has to be dominant and he has to

1046
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 6: play well because that's what this team needs.

1047
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: But also that's what Mozzie Smith needs.

1048
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 6: And then he immediately segue to and I've been working

1049
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: with him and I've been helping to, you know, make

1050
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 6: sure that his confidence stays high and reassuring him that

1051
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 6: is what a team player looks like, that is what

1052
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 6: a leader of the defense looks like. And as long

1053
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 6: as that continues, Michael Parsons in this defense will continue

1054
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 6: on the right trajectory, especially under somebody like Mike Zimmer

1055
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 6: And then keep in mind, we talk about Gonina and

1056
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 6: we talk about Greg Ellis, but there are other leaders

1057
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 6: in this coaching staff that are equally as proven and

1058
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 6: equally is valuable and a guy like Al Harris for example, Right,

1059
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 6: So these are that they're surrounded by leaders from a

1060
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 6: coaching perspective. And if Micah can now in his maturity

1061
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 6: because he keep in mind, he's still a young man, Okay,

1062
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 6: for all of the greatness that he has already achieved

1063
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 6: as an individual with these records, there's still a maturity

1064
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: that had to happen when it comes with age and wisdom.

1065
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 6: And it feels like Micah is getting getting wiser as

1066
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 6: he gets a little bit older and starts to understand

1067
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 6: his impact on those around him.

1068
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 8: And for those listening, if you guys haven't watched the interview,

1069
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 8: go go Tobo dot com and watch the interview, because

1070
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 8: it gives you a different look, a different feel of

1071
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 8: like him coming in and presenting himself in front of

1072
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 8: the media and speaking very differently than what we're used

1073
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 8: to reading on Twitter or on another podcast. So I'm

1074
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 8: just saying that that's a good yeah, yeah, but.

1075
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 7: Does it even matter?

1076
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 8: But the point is it's great. It's great to see

1077
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 8: starting training camp Patrick focus.

1078
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: Focused in Spanish and.

1079
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 4: Forget and that's a little too close to okay, okay.

1080
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 8: But my point here is that it's great to see

1081
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 8: him speaking that way because we're we know everything that's

1082
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 8: been talked about, and we know some of the things

1083
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 8: between teammates and all of that. So for him to

1084
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 8: stand up there, I think everyone deserves a little bit

1085
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 8: of grace and the opportunity to change and improve. So

1086
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 8: I love the way that he started off training camp

1087
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 8: and so far, so good, and that leads me to think, Okay,

1088
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 8: maybe Mike Zimmer, you know, he's he's not as the

1089
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 8: guy that that's gonna get people in line, you know.

1090
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: So the point is I like it. And he said

1091
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: he said earlier today that Mike Zimmer and him have

1092
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: had breakfast every morning since then, An ox Nard, So

1093
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a much different conversation than the

1094
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: one we had with him at the end of many

1095
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: camp where he said that they've maybe exchanged together. So yeah,

1096
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: that relationship is going to be really big to foster

1097
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: here and here An Oxnard. So uh, I'm very curious

1098
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: to see where that relationship stands whenever we get back

1099
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: to firstco something about that Zimmer glimmer.

1100
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: You know, I thought you said glitter.

1101
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: Up. I can rock with that one. I can rock

1102
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: with that.

1103
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: Hold him accountable, hold him accountable.

1104
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm changing it up.

1105
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.

1106
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

1107
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1108
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 8: Uh.

1109
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, so far, when you talk about Micah

1110
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: in the way that Mike Zimmer will probably be using

1111
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: him more of like a either an edge obviously edge rusher,

1112
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: but off ball maybe on the defensive line, does that

1113
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: kind of create open opportunities for maybe like a Marshawn

1114
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: Neeland to fight in battle more for that opportunity with

1115
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: defensive in against Sam Williams, And realistically, do y'all think

1116
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: that maybe Marshaw Kneelan could beat out Sam Williams for

1117
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: more snaps?

1118
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1119
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 3: You take you take Michael Parsons out of this equation,

1120
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: and you look at the fact that they lost Toorreance Armstrong,

1121
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: who is a guy that matches Marshaw Niland's skill set

1122
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, and Dante Fowler Junior, who

1123
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 3: was a very situational pass rusher that was really important

1124
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: for them over the course of the last three seasons.

1125
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 3: Marshaon Knieland's gonna have his opportunities, as will Sam Williams,

1126
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: and as will Michael Parsons. You know, there's still opportunities

1127
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: for Michael Parsons on the table too, if I believe

1128
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: it or not. So I think if I think, if

1129
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: you factor all those things in, all those three guys,

1130
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: we're gonna they're gonna.

1131
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: Have shots for me. I'm still not necessarily trapped.

1132
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 6: But I feel like the question of if Marshawn Kneeland

1133
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 6: could overtake Sam Williams, I think it's a napole when

1134
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 6: it's an orange, Okay. I think that when you look

1135
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: at Marshaw Kneeling, he's he's quite literally a junior Tank.

1136
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 4: Okay. He is elite at run defense.

1137
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 6: Now Tank is obviously better at pass rush, but Tank

1138
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 6: is also a pro bowler who's been in the lead

1139
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 6: while so he's perfected those moves, and that's something that

1140
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 6: marsha Kneeland would need to do with his hand movements

1141
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 6: and techniques and learn better how to rush the passer.

1142
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 6: But when you look at Sam Williams, Sam Williams, I

1143
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 6: said earlier, he has the quickest get off on the

1144
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 6: edge outside of Michael Parsons. He is a pure pass

1145
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 6: rusher who needs to develop more as run defense. So

1146
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 6: I think it's apples and oranges when it comes to

1147
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: those two. I think marshn n Neeland is who's going

1148
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 6: to be in rotation with the Marcus Lawrence. I think

1149
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 6: Sam Williams his number of opportunities is going to depend

1150
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 6: on where Michael Parsons is lined up on any given play.

1151
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 6: If Michael Parsons is off the ball on that particular play,

1152
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 6: Sam Williams is coming off of the edge. If Michael

1153
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 6: Parsons is coming off of the edge, then the question

1154
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 6: for Sam Williams or Mike Zimmer would be, is that

1155
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 6: a set where you're sliding Sam in because you want

1156
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 6: a little bit smaller but quicker.

1157
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: Pass rush on that set.

1158
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 6: Or do you pull Sam Williams and you get Osa

1159
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 6: in there and it's Osa and Mazi because you want

1160
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 6: more signs in the middle. So it'll be interesting to

1161
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 6: see how that plays out. But I do think Sam

1162
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 6: Williams's reps are much more tied where Michael Parsons is.

1163
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: Then it would be where my shaw Kneelan is.

1164
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 7: We've talked about talking cowboys that there is definitely definitietion.

1165
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: Great show. Check it out.

1166
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: You've been there like a week. You've been there like

1167
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 3: a week.

1168
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 4: I've been back.

1169
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 7: But there, I think there is a chance that Marson

1170
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 7: Nielan takes Samuel special.

1171
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: I'm getting ray of sunshine over there.

1172
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 8: I have.

1173
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 6: She's that sunshine on Mario right when he turns his

1174
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 6: back and then it starts to chase and you turn

1175
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 6: back around. He's like, that's what you are, but you

1176
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: you actually make a great Josh makes a great point.

1177
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 6: Special teams is going to play largely on this as well.

1178
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 6: Sam Williams, who's been uh, you know, getting a chunk

1179
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 6: of special teams play since.

1180
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 4: He's come into the league.

1181
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: But at the same time, he's been drawing flags and

1182
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 6: he's got to do away with those penalties. Marshaw Kneeling,

1183
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 6: he's a rookie, obviously he's going to be tasked with

1184
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 6: playing on special teams as well. So Marshawn Kneeling more

1185
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 6: on special teams. That's a that's a great point. If

1186
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 6: Marshaan Kneeling is starting to take the both of those,

1187
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 6: then in that respect, I could see Sam Williams being

1188
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 6: scaled back from special teams, which then saves him more

1189
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 6: so for defense.

1190
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 8: See I see, I see Sam as a very competitive guy.

1191
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 8: Not that all of them are not, they all are,

1192
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 8: but when you talk about Sam.

1193
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 4: Different the tweet free me after they won, after a win.

1194
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, My point is kneeling coming in. I think that

1195
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 8: maybe creates a new type of fire and drive and

1196
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 8: in him to want to do more. Like my thing

1197
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 8: with him, and I've been a Sam Williams supporter. I

1198
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 8: really like him. I really really like him, but he

1199
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 8: does need to find that focus and just play a

1200
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 8: cleaner game. I think he he gets too much. You know,

1201
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 8: you talk about the flags and and that's the problem

1202
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 8: that he's had since he's got got in here. So

1203
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 8: I think, if I had to say this early, my

1204
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 8: thought or whatever, what I feel is that he will

1205
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 8: have a much better year than last year. Like I

1206
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 8: feel like he's gonna show that growth this year and

1207
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 8: he's gonna take a step forward.

1208
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: I agree.

1209
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 6: And and number one, he's in fantastic spirits and he's motivated,

1210
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: and he's easily one of the most competitive guys out there.

1211
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 6: But like we're all saying, it's a matter of honing

1212
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 6: in that discipline. The first thing comes to my mind

1213
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 6: is versus Buffalo. In Buffalo, the kick right, the punt

1214
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 6: that can't happen right. So those types of mistakes, if

1215
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 6: he can delete those and just kind of hone in

1216
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 6: and take advantage of the fact that he's going to

1217
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 6: get more opportunities with Dorance Armstrong being gone, Dante Fowler

1218
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 6: being gone. I think this most certainly is that opportunity

1219
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 6: for Sam to have a breakout season.

1220
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: I want to throw a little Razwaldow's in there or

1221
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: like spice things ups. Who will be the best? I

1222
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: don't like that one.

1223
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 7: Ready to go, It's not.

1224
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 4: It's not it's not about not at all.

1225
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: It's not present.

1226
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: Who on the defensive side will have the most successful

1227
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: seasoned success?

1228
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: I'll say breakthrough?

1229
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: Can we say break break through season?

1230
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: Now, let's go there.

1231
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 7: Great question was a really good one.

1232
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: It turned out question because you look at it, you

1233
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: look at last year, and Deron Bland is your guy, right.

1234
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: I don't think you find a guy who has a

1235
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: similar impact that Doron had.

1236
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 7: Last year, obviously, but a historic impact the exactly.

1237
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with marshaw neland I think

1238
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: there's an opportunity for him to really replace what Doran's

1239
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: Armstrong vacated. And I think he's going to be the

1240
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: guy to be able to do that. Rotting with DeMarcus

1241
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: Lawrence and I think he's gonna make the negotiation table

1242
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: with DeMarcus Lawrence a year from now really interesting.

1243
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Demarvian Overshown.

1244
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: I completely forgot about. Yeah, you're right, I know, I know.

1245
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 11: I know.

1246
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1247
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 7: I had to jump in there because I feel like

1248
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 7: everybody's on the Demarvin Demarvin Overshewn train. He's showing out

1249
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 7: in practice, he's showing out on the field. It is

1250
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 7: going to be it's everyone's just so excited to see

1251
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 7: him play finally in a Cowboys uniform since last preseason

1252
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 7: where he unfortunately got injured. I just want to see

1253
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 7: him again on the field.

1254
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1255
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 7: He's gonna fly and it's gonna be great.

1256
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so much fun.

1257
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 6: I do want to go with the Marvean over shown

1258
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 6: but because you can't, just because were you listening, Well,

1259
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 6: actually I can do what I want because I'm grown man.

1260
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 6: But I'm a grown man that's presented by Solo Stoves.

1261
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Sam Williams. I'm gonna stick with

1262
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 6: what we just talked about. I believe that because Sam

1263
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 6: Williams will have many more opportunities.

1264
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: I think the absence of so.

1265
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 6: Armstrong and Dante Fowler and you talk about the the

1266
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 6: not only the mental aptitude for the game and the

1267
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 6: motor and the physical gifts and the competitiveness, it feels

1268
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 6: different this training camp for Sam Williams. It feels like

1269
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 6: he really believes that he's going to be unleashed. And

1270
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 6: that's because he is going to be unleashed, and I

1271
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 6: think he's just going to take advantage of that. Could

1272
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 6: am I saying this could be a ten SAX season

1273
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 6: for for Sam Williams. I think the presence of Michael

1274
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 6: makes that difficult. But I do feel like this could

1275
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: be a seven or eight SAX season, and even that

1276
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 6: would be a breakout year for Sam Williams.

1277
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 8: I mean, sure, still still from me? I mean that's

1278
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 8: what I said earlier, But you call me a thief?

1279
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: Pretty?

1280
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that the definition of Actually that's not

1281
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: if you earlier?

1282
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: Still is I'm low key like, no, it's not because

1283
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 4: still is a verb, but you know that's okay, thief

1284
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 4: is a noun.

1285
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm sorry. English is my.

1286
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 7: Ray of sunshine. And just she said that about herself

1287
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 7: about so sad.

1288
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 8: You know, I'm really trying to think of somebody else.

1289
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: Was it you or or you?

1290
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 8: Patrick Nick or Patrick that mentioned just being they that

1291
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 8: would step kind of I was like that that came

1292
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 8: into my head. I'm like, that's my guy. Like I

1293
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 8: love Osa and I feel like he can have kind

1294
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 8: of very impactful season and and fight his way through

1295
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 8: and actually be very productive on the field. I mean,

1296
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 8: I'm a fan of his. And we got to remember

1297
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 8: also Trevon Diggs coming back obviously breakthrough is kind of

1298
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 8: that's hard for that guy. Yeah, but he's also a

1299
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 8: guy that I'm curious to see how he comes back

1300
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 8: when he starts playing. What that's what this year is

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Speaker 8: going to look like for him, because we exactly exactly

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Speaker 8: we know we've seen that when injured players come by,

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 8: you know, they take a while.

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Speaker 3: It takes a while, so we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I do like the O.

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Speaker 6: So one real quick point on Osa for those that

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Speaker 6: haven't necessarily paid attention to Osa's trajectory. OSA has exponentially

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 6: improved year over year, and if that continues, and there's

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Speaker 6: no reason why that shouldn't continue, that means this year

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01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 6: should be exponentially better than last year, which was a

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 6: breakout season in and of itself. So while I don't

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01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 6: necessarily know if Sam Williams can get ten sacks because

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 6: of the presence of Micah, there's not much stopping OSA

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01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 6: from being a getting a ten sax season, and to

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Speaker 6: consider doing that from a three tech is insane, but.

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Speaker 4: He has the talent to do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm going with Mazzi, and I'm only going with Mazzi

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Speaker 2: because I got a chance to, you know, sit down

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01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: one on one with him this off season, and he

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01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: has a chip on his shoulder just because of the

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: criticism that he faced last season, yep, coming in, you know,

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Speaker 2: first round pick and only having thirteen tackles in twenty

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01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: twenty three, losing that weight like you had mentioned Patrick,

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Speaker 2: and I mean now I feel like he's confident, more

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: confident in this Mike Zimmer defense, and I think that

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01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: he's truly going to live up to everybody's expectations that

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: they have for him in twenty twenty three, and I'm

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: excited to see it offensive side of the ball. Who

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Speaker 2: is going to have a breakthrough season.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and sythe nickname.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, we're not stopping with him Ambar, We're

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01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: not doing it. Nope, Ambar was.

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Speaker 7: Tur sir, point it. I've trademarked it, and I'll give

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Speaker 7: it to him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he will take no for a substantial.

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Speaker 7: Amount of money. I will uh, I will let him

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Speaker 7: out the copyright.

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Speaker 8: Ooh, let me think.

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Speaker 3: Jayn Tolbert, Jaln Tolbert, I think this is his year

1340
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: to really He's got the number one, he's got the visor,

1341
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: He's stepping up into a wide receiver three role. He's confident.

1342
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: You see the confidence from Dak Prescott to the very

1343
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: first day of camp. They had that back shoulder throw

1344
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 3: that Dak Prescott is not He's not making that throw

1345
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: a year ago today, He's not even making that throw

1346
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 3: in December. So I think the confidence is really really

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01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: building with Jalen Tolbert. I think he's gonna have a year.

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: He has roughly two hundred and eighty career receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: I think he doubles that this year. I think he

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: pushes six hundred. I think he's gonna have a really

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Speaker 3: good year.

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01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 6: The answer is, big biscuit, it's Jake Ferguson, Jay love It, Yeah,

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01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 6: it's Jake Ferguson. I think this is a year where,

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Speaker 6: first of all, let me let me qualify this way.

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 6: Dak In is a tight deck in. Dak is a

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01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 6: tight end whisperer. Okay, whether it was he learned how

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01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 6: to you know, connect with his tight end in the

1358
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 6: Jason Whitten era, he helped make Dalton Shoultz much, don't

1359
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 6: you do it? He helped make Dalton Shoults relevant. Right,

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01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 6: And now here comes Jake Ferguson who has infinitely more

1361
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 6: of a skill set than Dalton Schultz did, and he

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01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 6: showed it. And when you look at last season as

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 6: they switched over to the Texas Coast offense and they

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01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 6: had heavy installs and things like that, Jake Ferguson, along

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 6: with Brandon Cooks and some of these other guys, ceedee Lamb,

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 6: it was a slow start for the offense first four

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 6: or five games or so. Okay, Now, there were other

1368
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 6: things like the offensive line struggles and injuries that factored

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 6: into that as well. But once Jake Ferguson got going.

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 6: There was no stopping Jake Ferguson. Okay, So that being said,

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 6: now that the heavy installs are behind them and they

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 6: can play more freely, they know what the expectations of

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01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 6: are of Mike McCarthy in his playbook and where they

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 6: need to be in the timing of everything. Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 6: I believe by the end of this year he is

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Speaker 6: most certainly in the top three. He's a first team

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Speaker 6: All Pro, and he will be knocking on the door

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Speaker 6: of a thousand yards because I believe that although he's

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 6: the tight end and Brandon Cooks, I believe he is

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 6: going to have a really good year as well. I

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 6: think Jake Ferguson technically might be the second most targeted

1382
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 6: receiver on the team by the time the year is over.

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01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 6: Cooks is going to get his make no mistake about it,

1384
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 6: But I think Jake Ferguson might end up being right

1385
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 6: there with Cooks as far as targets Arkansas.

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say Cooks, and it's weird to say

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01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 8: this because you're talking about a veteran guy kind of

1388
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 8: towards the later years of his career.

1389
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: But to me.

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Speaker 8: I don't see how you do a year and or

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01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 8: a season and your end review is that how you

1392
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 8: say your end review and you don't say to yourself, man,

1393
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 8: we there's so many opportunities missed opportunities with branding Cloks.

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 8: There's no way for you to see that and not

1395
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 8: realize that. So I think this is a year that

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01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 8: they look at all of that and they create better

1397
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 8: opportunities for Dak to target him more because we saw

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01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 8: that so many different times throughout the season, different games

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01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 8: where he was open. He he knows how to run

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01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 8: routes and get open, and I think that the Cowboys

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 8: underutilized them really on offense last year.

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: I think it was also because in the first couple

1403
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: of weeks they were still trying to find their identity

1404
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: right first, It.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't that Chargers game was the first one that really

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01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 7: It was after that that they really got on.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like it happened until after the Byeway

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01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: because the go to San Francisco after the Charger You're right,

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Speaker 3: You're right, absolutely.

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 6: And also credit to Mike McCarthy and but also Brandon

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01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 6: Cooks in this aspect and as far as that relationship

1412
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 6: is concerned. You know, by the midpoint of the season,

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 6: we heard Brandon Cooks, you know, doing things like going

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 6: off of the field and telling Mike McCarthy this is

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01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying.

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01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 6: You know, can we check out this play and try

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01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 6: this and then the very next play it's Brandon Cooks

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 6: for a big gainer. So the fact that Mike McCarthy

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 6: is open to that type of real time input from

1421
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 6: all of his playmakers and just players in general, that's

1422
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 6: the kind of cohesiveness that you need to continue to

1423
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 6: take steps forward from not simply being the number one offense,

1424
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 6: but being a number one offense that's so far above

1425
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 6: and beyond who number two is. Because the Cowboys still

1426
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 6: had some struggles like with the run and things like that.

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 6: So it's not as if they can't improve. They most

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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 6: certainly can. But I agree with that, But I believe

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks is definitely going to have an explosive year.

1430
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 6: He's not only is he saying all the right things,

1431
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 6: but we already know he can do all the right things,

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 6: and he's mentoring guys like Jaylen Tobert for his apple.

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 6: We want to talk about what one of the reasons

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 6: jayaln Tobert is progressing and taking these steps. It's Brandon

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 6: Cooks the CD lambs.

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Speaker 2: So it all works together, all right, Josh, real fast, offensive,

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: real quick.

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Speaker 7: Obviously Kvanti Turbin would be would be the one. But

1439
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 7: you have a new look offensive line, and I think

1440
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 7: that one of the players most everybody is excited about

1441
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 7: is Cooper BB. I'll go ahead and drop a new nickname.

1442
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 7: If that's okay with you, guys can unveil it, all right.

1443
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 7: I don't think we have a choice, BB driver. Okay,

1444
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 7: you can drive.

1445
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: I can allow that one. Actually he's the center driver,

1446
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 3: let's go BB.

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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 7: I don't know.

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01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't like that one.

1449
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: I think brock Hoffman wins that center spot. I really do.

1450
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: I think he. I think he wins that center spot.

1451
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 7: Take much like the solo stock.

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: I think a year. I think a year from now,

1453
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 3: we're potentially talking about a right guard battle between Cooper

1454
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: B B and t J.

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 4: Bass.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, that'll do it for this episode. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: we get a chance to do this. But make sure

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