1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi, 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of What in the Winkler. I'm 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: so excited because, as you guys know, I am a 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: total Housewives junkie, and today we have Denise Richards joining us, 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: which is so exciting. She was on reality TV. Actually, 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: she debuted on the show Denise Richards, It's Complicated in 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and it ran until two thousand 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: and nine, and then she was on two seasons of 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills from twenty nineteen to 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Obviously, she's also an incredible actress and was 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: married to Charlie Sheen and has three children, two of 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: which she shares with Charlie Sheen. And now she has 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a new reality show that is coming out and I 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: am so excited. I got to see the first episode 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: and I'm dying. Let's welcome Denise. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Hi. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Hi, Oh my god, you're so glam It's so beautiful. 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: No, don't be, You're beautiful. Look at your Gray Malen 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: behind you. Is that Gray Malean's it's not. 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Actually it's this woman named Judy Gilattie. But I love it. 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: So much he knew it was one or the other. Yeah, 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: I love your dad, by the way, Oh I do too. 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: He is one of the nicest people I've ever met. 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: He's so he's the best. He's really like, he's I 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: don't know. It's weird when you are an adult and 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: then you see your parents as human beings, and he 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: really is just like a really good person. 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: It's such an amazing person. I met him once. I 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: think we were doing a talk show at the same time, 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: and we were, you know, in the green roop passing. 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: He was so kind, and of course I was always 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: a huge fan. So he's so lovely. 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, thank you. So I will, I will, 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I will. 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: I know. That's what. 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: It's funny because I have been trying to make dinner 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: with Crystal. Crystal and Alex and I always have dinner together, 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: which is so funny. Yeah, you have to come. And 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: I was they were trying to send out dates and 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm interviewing Denise tomorrow 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: and they were both like, she's the best. She's so funny, 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: she's so cool, and Alex is like, tell her we're friends. 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: I was like, I will so he so you live 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: in LA I do. 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I love him. And and then Crystal 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: I just did her podcast a week ago, Parent with Cynthia. 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Cynthia, Yeah, before it was like a Housewives thing. They 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: had asked me to be her co host, but it 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't going to be like a Bravo 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: a thing. It was going to be more just about 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: like moms and and but I had already. I'm just 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: doing something with my mom. And then my mom who's 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: supposed to be my partner, she actually got really sick 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: and so she hasn't been doing it, but she's like 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: finally doing so much better and she's going to rejoin. 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: So I'm really exciting. 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting. 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: But thank you so much for doing this. 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for having me. 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: I just so I got to watch the two first 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: two episodes. Oh your show. I love it. 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Oh you do. 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Love It's so good. I mean, especially like just getting 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: to see first I'm the biggest Housewives fan ever, so 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed and so just getting to see like this 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: other side of your life is so cool. 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I love doing the Housewives. Obviously, 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: my first season I had so much fun. It was 69 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: great getting to know the women. And then my second 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: season went you know, slightly sideways, but yeah that I 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: still I'm so glad I did it. I would do 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: it again. And I love a lot of the women 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: on the show show. And on that show, you know, 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: you get it's mostly about the friendships and the women, 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: and you get a glimpse into our family a little bit. 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: But in this show, it's really family. It's more. Yeah, 77 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: it's a lot of family. And Alex Baskin approached me 78 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: about doing a family docuseries, and I wanted to make 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: sure that my whole family was on board. And you being, 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, having a famous father can relate to that too. 81 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: That the girls, you know, they've been the daughters of 82 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards, and it was an opportunity 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: for them to have their own show, yeah, and be 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: their own person. 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Being a daughter of is so complicated and I 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time, and because it's like 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: it's almost like people assume that they know you, yeah, 88 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: before you know you even spoken, or they assume that 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: you're one way. And so I for me, at least, 90 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I spend so much time like trying to convince them 91 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not whatever they think, because people's idea of, 92 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, having famous parents is like that you're going 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: to be this like spoiled, you know, brat, And it's like, 94 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: it's so it's so interesting to like get to see 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: what it must feel like for Sammy and and all 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: your girls, you know, because it's you should talk to 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: them too. I would love to. I would love to 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: because it's so I mean, it's so you walk into 99 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: a room and sometimes you feel like everybody knows yeah, 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: immediately before you've even even had a chance to say, 101 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: like no, like this is who I am, and and 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and by the way, like also so much great stuff 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: comes from it too, you know. So it's like, you know, 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: it's not just a lot of perks, a lot of perks, 105 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: and I definitely mild those perks for everything. 106 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: I grew up very differently than my all my girls. 107 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: I grew up in a small town in Illinois and 108 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: not from Hollywood at all. And I always think I 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: can't imagine what it must be like, and then they 110 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: can't imagine what it must be like how I grew 111 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: up because that's all they know too. 112 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Do you ever go home and take them back. 113 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: I haven't brought them back to Illinois. 114 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what that would be like. 115 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we've talked about it. Most of you know, 116 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: relatives that we talked to will come out here. 117 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: You could do like a simple Life episode. 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it would be good. I really do want to 119 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: take them there because it's so different and it's funny, 120 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: is they they would love to see that. When I 121 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: grew up there, I was like, I would love to 122 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: see Hollywood, right like. 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Gabby out of here, and now they would probably love it. Yeah, 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: that's season two. You got to take them back. 125 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: Yes, they need to go back and see it. 126 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so for them, they were both comfortable and Elouise, 127 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: everybody was comfortable kind of being on doing this together. 128 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: You guys like had a family meeting, and we. 129 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Had a family meeting. Eloise, she's she special needs, primarily 130 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: non verbal, but she understands everything. She gave a thumbs up. 131 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: She was so excited. She loves to see herself on 132 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: camera and in pictures. Sammy was very excited because over 133 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: the years she's like, Mom, we need to do another 134 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: reality show. It's so crazy. We need cameras here. Lola 135 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: was more hesitant, and I told her, if you I 136 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: want you to really want to do this, because it's 137 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: a commitment and you don't want to, it's okay. And 138 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: she really she prayed about it. She's very into her faith, 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: and she felt like, Okay, this is a good thing, 140 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: and I reassured her that this is also an opportunity. 141 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 2: I plaud her and admire her confidence in also being 142 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: so open about her faith because I was raised by 143 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: a mom who would always tell us, don't talk about 144 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: politics or religion, and that's just how I was raised. 145 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: And I think it's inspiring for her, being a young 146 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: adult coming into her own that she can inspire younger kids. 147 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: I say kids, but young adults that are wanting to 148 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: totally be open with their faith. And I think that 149 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: it's a wonderful platform for her to share that. And 150 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: so she then she obviously she was excited to do it. 151 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: And you know, my girls, all of them couldn't be 152 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: more opposite from each other. But we had a good 153 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: time filming and it was a lot of fun, and 154 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: I think, you know, the girls enjoyed it too. 155 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Something that's so special about filming with your family. I mean, 156 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I would assume like these are memories that you have 157 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: for the rest of your lives, and that your girls 158 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: will be able to watch back and moments that you 159 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: know that are captured that would would happen, but they 160 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: would never You would never have like that on tape 161 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: memories forever. It's like home movies, you. 162 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Know it is. And I agree with you and they, 163 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: you know, even when we did our first reality show, 164 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: the girls barely remember it if that, and they watched 165 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 2: clips back and they're like, oh my gosh, it's so 166 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: nice to have this. And I think it'll be good 167 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: for them and for myself to have this with the 168 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: with the kids, with all of us later. 169 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: And I love that you include Charlie's other ex wife, Brooke, 170 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Like that's that's how my family was when I was 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: growing up. My mom was married before and we were 172 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: super close with you know, his wife, his wife he 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: passed away, but his wife, my mom's ex husband's wife, 174 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: is one of her best friends and she like comes 175 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: over and it was so nice for us to see 176 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: and for my brother to have not to feel like 177 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: he he had to go into like a million different 178 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: places every holiday and stuff like that. It was just 179 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: so nice that you include her and that you guys 180 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: are kind of doing it together with your kids because 181 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: they're siblings. 182 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you for saying that. It's you know, 183 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: over the years she and I, you know, it's been 184 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: up and down. 185 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 186 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: I think people can relate to that too. And whenever 187 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: things were they would always be invited for holidays. Oftentimes 188 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: they would come from the holidays and some of my 189 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: friends be like, I don't understand. I'm like, it's all 190 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: about the kids. We all, yeah, because kids didn't have 191 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: to be born into homes that were split and separated. 192 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: And the more kids feel loved, and. 193 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, that takes a lot of you as a person, 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: as a woman, as a you know, like I always 195 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: say that to my mom, like that's really And it 196 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: didn't always. My mom used to like scare the out 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: of her ex's wife, but now, you know, like they're 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: like sisters almost. I call them, like, you know, it's 199 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: like I have two moms. 200 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, Brook, when things are really good, 201 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: is were the same. We obviously have a lot in 202 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: common and we can commiserate a lot too about things, 203 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it's like we're 204 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,359 Speaker 2: one big, blended family, and I love when it's peaceful 205 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: and harmonious, and I've always tried to do that as 206 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: much as possible. 207 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: That's it, And I mean that just speaks to you 208 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: as a mom, you know, and what kind of mom 209 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: you are? Wait, have the girls made up? I need 210 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: to know. 211 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: Yes, But they're sisters, right. So my sister and I 212 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: are eighteen months apart, and we would fight all the 213 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: time too, stupid little fights. And Samuel Lula are fifteen 214 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: months apart. Elouise is much younger than them, but they will. 215 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: They would. They were when we've been here in New 216 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: York doing press and it's the first time them doing 217 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: press with this show. It's so funny because they would. 218 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: People have asked that and we're like looked at each 219 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: other and like, how many fights have we gotten into today? 220 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: They fight all the time, but they it's stupid and 221 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: then they get over it and it quickly. Yeah. But 222 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: on our show, there was a particular situation that lasted 223 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: quite a long time, and I think doing a reality 224 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: show is when you see yourself when you see it. 225 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: And also it was great because even though we're filming 226 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: our life, there were times where I would push like, 227 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: we're getting together for dinner. I don't care, you have 228 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: to come, and it forced them to also be there 229 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: and have work through it. 230 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 231 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and on the show people will see too. As 232 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: a as a parent, I would have to I would 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: struggle oftentimes one where they would just want me to 234 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: butt out of it, but where I would tell them, Okay, 235 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: you're going to look back at this and be like, 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: we're fighting over stupid, silly stuff. I know now it 237 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: seems like a big deal, but there'll be bigger issues later. 238 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like get through it. 239 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: But when you're in and it's hard to remember that, 240 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: especially when you're with your siblings. I don't have a sister, 241 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: but I have friends like sisters. But it's so different, 242 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: like to have a sister. I imagine that's like such a 243 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: different relationship because my brother's and I fight, but not 244 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: in the same you know. It's like now, it's like 245 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: so different. 246 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: You know, they have a lot of the same friends, they. 247 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: Right, and they're so close together and eight. 248 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're all on the same floor of our 249 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: hotel and you know, so they have their friends that 250 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: they've seen here in New York and they they're getting 251 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: along I think today, which is great. 252 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: How has it been like doing this process with them, 253 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: like doing press with them? It must be so cool 254 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: to like be able to do it with your kids. 255 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so excited. Yeah, it's so fun for me. 256 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: I just I told them, I said, enjoy this moment 257 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: because it's really special and it's so surreal for me 258 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: because I was twenty years old when I got my 259 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: first acting job. Sammy's twenty she's turning twenty one next weekend, 260 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: and Lola's nineteen and I was not doing press though 261 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: at those It took a few years before I had 262 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: a project that warn't at that. But they I just said, 263 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: just enjoy this moment. And it's so crazy for me 264 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: to look at them and like I remember being their 265 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: age starting out in the business. It's very surreal and 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: it's really Lola got asked to sign her first autograph 267 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: and she was like it was so cute, so cute weet. 268 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: So it's fun for me as their mom to see them, 269 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: you know, experience all of this. 270 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like have this amazing thing that you guys 271 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: all get to share together. And is Sammy still doing OnlyFans? 272 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: She is? 273 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I really I've always said, like what I just I've 274 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: had my oldest I just had his ber Mitzvah, and 275 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I think I need to do an 276 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: only fans to pay for it, and I'm so down, 277 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: like I need tips. I do want to speak to 278 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: her actually, because she has to give me some tips. 279 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: Good. You know what she said she was going to join. 280 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: I truly I did not what it was and I 281 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: had to google it and and I all I said 282 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: to her was just make sure that this is something 283 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: you really want to do. It could be perceived a 284 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: certain way, and I just want you to be prepared 285 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: for that. And she went ahead and did it. And 286 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: then when she got a lot of backlash as her mom, 287 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: I was obviously very upset about it, and I posted 288 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: something about it, and then I just made an offhand 289 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: comment like maybe I should join, and then I did. 290 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: And not to sound like creepy or anything like a 291 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: weird whatever, but it's more about, you know, I feel 292 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: very as a woman being when you're in control of 293 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: what you want out there and the narrative. Yeah, yeah, 294 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Like it's there's something very empowering about that. And also 295 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: after I did a movie years ago, Wild things people 296 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: assumed I was that character when I was playing a 297 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: part and I was, you know, a sex symbol, and 298 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: magazines and stuff like that perceived that way, and so 299 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: it just kind of, you know, I felt bad that 300 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: my daughter at that age was getting such backlash, and 301 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: so I did the same thing. And I just as 302 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: a woman, we can make her own choices, and she 303 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: controls what's on her page. By the way, I've never 304 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: gone on she hasn't seen mine either, and she's able, 305 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: you know. 306 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: To she gets she's the one that's calling the shots 307 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: for what is comfortable for her, right and that's such 308 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: a beautiful I mean, like I think like that is 309 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: you talked about it ind in the episode. You were saying, 310 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: how you know she really it's actually an empowering thing 311 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: and it switches the way you think about something like that. 312 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: But I actually was just talking to my friend who 313 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: is now only fans, is doing like workout regiments and 314 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: like all these it's becoming like a huge platform for 315 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you anybody can do anything on there, you know, And. 316 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: It's the thing it's people assume it's more risque, but 317 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: it's all what you put on there. It's not also 318 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: like I walk. 319 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Down the street and girls are wearing less than they're 320 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: wearing on the only fan. So I'm like, you know 321 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: now that I see, like what the what we were 322 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: growing up was like nineties grunge and it's coming back 323 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. But now like it's crazy when I 324 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, the dresses, all the things that allus right 325 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: thirteen year old girls are wearing. I'm like, we're. 326 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: Fine, you know. 327 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: And so do you miss like the acting part and 328 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: when you're doing this or. 329 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: You like, you know, I did do a couple of 330 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: projects while we were filming this last year. I did 331 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: Special Forces and then right after that we were in 332 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: pre production for our show, and we started filming in 333 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: July and up until right before Christmas is when we 334 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: wrapped everything with all the interviews and stuff. So I 335 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: really wanted to focus on our show because it's. 336 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: Uh, well the labor of love family. 337 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, but I I'm very lucky that I'm 338 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: still able to do other jobs too in between. 339 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: And but do you prefer one or the other? 340 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: I love bowls, I really do, and I love doing reality. 341 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: A lot of times will film me doing other things too, 342 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, when I've done Housewives. We have filmed me 343 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: acting and on our show, we filmed me going on location, 344 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: uh when I left and stuff. So that's part of 345 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: reality is at least you know, we're able to film 346 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: part of our real life too. Do you do. 347 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: You do you watch the Other Housewives? Like franchises are 348 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: really just not so much. 349 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 2: I do. I I am a fan of the Housewives 350 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: as well. I do have to get caught up with 351 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. I haven't seen a lot of the season. 352 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: I need to get caught up with. It's wild. I heard. 353 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm friends with quite a few of them, so I 354 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: have to get caught up with that. I did watch 355 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: the New York New reboot, and I've watched New Jersey. 356 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: But I love the Housewives. That's why I did the show, because. 357 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: I was saying, I love it so much. My mom 358 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: and Andy are really good friends. And so I got 359 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: to go to his baby shower in La and oh 360 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: my god, I was like, this is it was crazy. 361 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: I told him. I was like, this is my dream 362 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: come true. And I'm around famous people all the time, 363 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: and literally the I became like I couldn't. I felt 364 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: like a kid at Disneyland with like an autograph book 365 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Bondie like I was out of my mind. It's like 366 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: the only thing I care about. I love housewives. I'm 367 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: like a Housewives queen. I don't know, it's so why Yeah, 368 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: and Alex always get annoyed when we go to dinner 369 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: because I'm like, tell me everything, and he's like, stop 370 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: talking to me about how S lives. But sometimes, you know, 371 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: like it's hard to watch when women are being like 372 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: so mean to each other. Sometimes it becomes like that's 373 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: when I get like, oh, this isn't you know. There's 374 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: some times when I'm just like this isn't. It's fun 375 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: when you're watching it and there can be like shady 376 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: things right, funny way, but when it's really really unkind, 377 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: it becomes like sometimes too much to like you know, 378 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: and I mean I. 379 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: Think there could be a little fight and then get 380 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: over it and have another fight if last the whole season. 381 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, this can get a little boring, yeah about 382 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: something else. And it's also just. 383 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean, I don't know, especially like 384 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: at this time in our world, like I feel like 385 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: women have to just lift up other women and I 386 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: don't know, sometimes like I yeah, I worry about that. 387 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes people do like to see women have fun together too. 388 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's women, I mean friendship. My friendships with my 389 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: girlfriends are one of the most important things in my life, 390 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, just like as important as my relationship with 391 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: my husband and my kids. You know, it's so important. 392 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: It's very important. 393 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And do you and you have like guests come 394 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: on the show like you have some of the housewives 395 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: come on. 396 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: You know. I am really truly good friends with a 397 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: lot of them. Canille Grammar, I've known her for years. 398 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: Sutton I met doing a show. We've become very good friends. 399 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: I became friends with Katy Hilton Garcel I've known since 400 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: we were, you know, starting out in the business, so 401 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: genuinely we're good, you know, good friends. And I wanted 402 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: to also show that too. And then I filmed with 403 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: Erica Jane and that came about because our for my 404 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: first season on the show, I feel like her and 405 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: I we had a connection. We became friends on the show, 406 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: and then my second season. Even from the beginning of 407 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: my second season, I just felt like a different shift 408 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: and energy and then it went really sideways and I 409 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: felt there was just some unfinished you know, between the 410 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: two of us, and so I was glad that she 411 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: filmed with me, and I'm glad that we were able 412 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: to reconnect and have that moment. 413 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: And do you feel like you're in a better place now? 414 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: Well you'll have to watch. 415 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so excited. So when do you think that 416 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: when you film with your girls, do you feel like 417 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: protective of what they say? Or it's just like you 418 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: guys forget that the cameras are even there. 419 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: It's so funny. The only thing people had asked me 420 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: did we have any rules of what we could couldn't 421 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: talk about? And we didn't. All I said to the 422 00:22:52,000 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: girls was I wanted just be yourself, be you really themselves, 423 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: to the point where I was like, oh my gosh, 424 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: they don't really tone it down at all. And I 425 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: and I said like, you know, uh, you know this 426 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: is gonna be on TV. Yeah, glad of yourself. And 427 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, we're doing a reality show and okay, 428 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: you know so it. But I'm I'd rather than be 429 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: completely their true, authentic self. Then of course, I did 430 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: not want anything to feel set up or rehearsed or 431 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: any of that. And that's why I just told them, 432 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: just you be you. 433 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I think people think sometimes reality show like reality is 434 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: all set up, it's like a and it's not. I mean, 435 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: it's like literally sometimes you forget that the cameras. 436 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: Are even there. Yeah, no, it's true. 437 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have been on I've never done 438 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: a reality show on my own, but I've gone on 439 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: like friends or whatever where there are cameras there and 440 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: I forget that they're there and I say something so 441 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: insane and I then have to like catch myself because 442 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: I am not, you know, a real start. So I'm like, 443 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, can. 444 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: You cut that? Can you erase that? 445 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: You know, because it's like your yourself and then you 446 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, like life just happens, yeah, and 447 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: then they become you know, do you? Is there anything 448 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: else like in your lifetime? Would you ever write a book? 449 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: Would you write like a memoir? Would that be something 450 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: you would do. 451 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: I did do a memoir shortly after I got divorced, 452 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: and I focused more about the feelings of going through divorce, 453 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: going through something public. I didn't want to like say 454 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: anything negative. Yeah you know, but I may maybe later 455 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: I would do like a memoir with everything. But I 456 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: would also shortly before Uh, Jackie Collins passed away. I 457 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: went to lunch with her a few years before, and 458 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: I really want her, I wanted to do would rather 459 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: the story be in an all. 460 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: That's so cool. That's great. I bet you could find 461 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: it the way. 462 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm you know, because for me to do a memoir 463 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: memoir where I'm really yeah, sharing stories my whole career 464 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: and stuff, I just I'm not one that likes to 465 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: say names, and I would talk about situations, but I 466 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to. 467 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: You should do that. That's such a good idea. The 468 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: Jackie Collins World of Books was just the best ever, 469 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: I know. I mean, there's nothing better. I wish like 470 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: there was like a show like that would be a 471 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: movie I would die to watch. 472 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: There's She loved my stories, I'll tell you that. 473 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, you have some pretty amazing ones. 474 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you feel like you've not done 475 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: yet that you really, really really want to do. 476 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: I want to do a Marvel movie, and I so 477 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: badly want to do a movie with Quentin Tarantie. You know, 478 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: I love him. He's such an incredible filmmaker and that's 479 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: always been a dream of mine to work with him. 480 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: I think he like moved to Israel. Is that possible. 481 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I think he did. 482 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: My dad just saw him because my dad went to 483 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: Israel to do a TV show a year ago and 484 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: they had dinner, and I think he I think he 485 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: married like an Israeli woman, and I think he lives there. 486 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I really believe that that's 487 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: the case. 488 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: Possibly, I don't know where he lives. 489 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he might have to go to Israel. 490 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: You mightn't go anywhere. 491 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, He's amazing. He's like, yeah, so yeah, 492 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: it was. It's I remember seeing him once at a 493 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: party and I was like, this is crazy. I mean 494 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: he's so his mind works in a. 495 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: Way that's so different, incredible. 496 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: He really is. 497 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: Those are And then I would love a cooking show. 498 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: Oh do you love to cook? 499 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: I do. I'm terrible at it, but I love to cook. 500 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm a messy cook. I just and then does Aaron 501 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: clean up after? He's like, can you like clean as 502 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: you go? I'm like no, because what if I need 503 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: that for I'm going to say with Food Network, I 504 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: watch all those shows. I Love you You, being super 505 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: Starstruck with Bravo, The es me. It's the chefs from 506 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: Food Network. 507 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: That's so cool. My son really wants to be a chef. 508 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: He's thirteen. 509 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: I really love Oh my god. 510 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: He cooks all day long and I love to cook too, 511 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: and so we cook together. But but it's funny. Is 512 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: there like one thing that you like? He loves to 513 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: make steak. Is there something that you're like excellent at? 514 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to perfect homemade pasta, which oh yeah, yeah, 515 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: I posted videos about that on my Instagram. But I 516 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: love Italy. Italy is one of my favorite places to visit, 517 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: and I feel like you can eat anything there. It's 518 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: true pizza pasta, and it's like you don't gain twenty 519 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: pounds eating it. You don't feel it from the gluten 520 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: and all that. In my opinion, you're right. I like 521 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: and I like that everything so fresh, they cook what's 522 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 2: in the garden. And but I I really am. I 523 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: have so many different things to make. I get that 524 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: double zero flower. I still cannot get the noodles correct, 525 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: so I am working on that. 526 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: What do you what is your favorite place? Where is 527 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: your favorite place to go in Italy? 528 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: I love the Amalfi Coast, but I also love like Tuscany, 529 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: and I was lucky enough a couple of years ago 530 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: to film in Turin, Italy. I love all of it, 531 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: and it's each place is very different from one another. 532 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: But I just went for the first time last summer 533 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: and I loved it. I've never been before, and I 534 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: was never a huge traveler. Like I would travel, I 535 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: would go to Hawaii or skiing or something like very like, 536 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: but I never really had been to a bunch of 537 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: places in Europe. 538 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: And we went. 539 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: We took our boys and we went to Venice and 540 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: Rome and Pulia. And I feel like it like changed 541 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: my life. And meanwhile, like getting like like gearing up 542 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: for the trip, I fully went on Manjaro. I was 543 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: like so excited to like and then I get there 544 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: and it's like I did not gain a pound because 545 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: I just are eating and it's all even. I feel 546 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: like even the wine there is different. It doesn't make 547 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: you feel sick. I can't understand, how about it. 548 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: I ate pizza almost every day and I lost four 549 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: pounds there, and I think it's because I was walking 550 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: so much. But I couldn't believed that I could eat 551 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: all of these carbs all day long. 552 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: I can't like, yeah, it's just it's amazing. Like, I 553 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: loved every minute of it. 554 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: What was your favorite place when you went? 555 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: I loved all of it. I really really really loved Venice. 556 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: I've ever been and it's everyone. Yeah, everyone was like 557 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: skip it, you're not gonna love it. I couldn't believe it. 558 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: I was like, it's magic. 559 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: I know. 560 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't even like. I was like this is And 561 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: now I keep saying to my husband like I want 562 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: to go everywhere, like I just want to explore. 563 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: But I all that's so good. 564 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard the Dolomites are really amazing. Have you 565 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: ever been there? 566 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: I haven't been there yet. 567 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: Can you tell me more about Special Forces? 568 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 2: Sure? Well what would you like to know? 569 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but everyone's obsessed with it. 570 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a clip where nothing okay? So 571 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: it's basically a competition with yourself and it is a 572 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: true real reality show where even the producers are not 573 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: around these men. They're the ds. These three gentlemen that 574 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: were there, they were in the military, they've done all 575 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: kinds of their Everything that they've done is crazy. So 576 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: there was sixteen of us that went and we didn't 577 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: know who else was going. We filmed in Wales. This 578 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: was their third season. We all sleep in the same 579 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: place on cots, sleeping bag, pillow and it is. The 580 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: stuff we had to do was crazy. I lasted two days. 581 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: I got injured, I jumped, I had my second first 582 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: thing I had to well after we get pushed off 583 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: into the water and swam and all that. You have 584 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: to do push ups. There's no craft service, there's barely 585 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: any food. 586 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: Do you prepare like you like, do you know what 587 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: you're going into? Do you like more mentally or physically 588 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: for it? 589 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: Well? You you have. They didn't tell us exactly what 590 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: we were doing, but I when I found out I 591 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: was doing it for sure. I had a thing with 592 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: the toilet because on the show you'll see there's like 593 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: outhouses and the door is cut where you could see 594 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: people's feet, and so I was like, I am not 595 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: going to go national television and do that. So I 596 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: had to have a toilet like that had the door 597 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: that was from for me to like, I'm not doing that. 598 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: That's where I draw the line. But I found out 599 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: three weeks before I was going, and I turned down 600 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: the show a few times because I was scared and 601 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, because I am scared, I'm 602 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: going to do it and it's going to take me 603 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: out of my comfort zone. My oldest daughters were so 604 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: mad at me. They were crying actually when I was scared. 605 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: They were so scared that I wasn't going to make 606 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: it back home. And also we have to turn our 607 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: phones in for real, so I can't text anybody or call. 608 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: But I had to jump off of this boat onto 609 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: a helicopter and then climb into the helicopter when it 610 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: was hanging and we were above the I receipt. I 611 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: could not climb in. I just didn't have to. I 612 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 2: was able to hang on, but I was like, I 613 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: can't get up there, and I was like, how I 614 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: can fall off of that thing. And then the second 615 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: day is where I got injured. I had to jump 616 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: off this bridge and I ruptured my implants and hurt 617 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: my hit berry whatever. So I had opt out. So 618 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: but if that's crazy, the crazy show, I have to 619 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: watch it. I'm glad I did it because I met 620 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: amazing people on the show, but I wouldn't do it 621 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: again because it is dangerous for me. Intense. Yeah, it's 622 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: so physical, like I'm not an athlete like pilates doesn't 623 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: cut it doing this. 624 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: I did see you working out in the gym though 625 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: it seems like you might be like you're very strong. 626 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: No, I feel like, yeah that but even and some 627 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: people are like, is it because you're the age? Is 628 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: it an age thing? But I was really thinking about 629 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: even if I was twenty, I still would have had 630 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: a really hard time doing it because I'm not an athlete. 631 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: You know, Like the backpath they call it the bergen 632 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. I called it the burken because I couldn't 633 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: remember the name of the thing. It's almost it's half 634 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: my size heightwise, and the weight of it was so heavy. 635 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: That's like cam Newton and Golden Tate. These guys had 636 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: the same weight. And they would put this bag of 637 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: gravel and rocks in it and we would have to 638 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: weigh it, and if we didn't have enough weight the 639 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: weight that they said it had to be, we had 640 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: to add more gravel. I'm like, I can't even do 641 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 2: this freaking thing, and you have to run with it. 642 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 2: So I just like, I don't care what age I am, 643 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm carry the damn ass thing. That was my hardest 644 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: thing was running with that on my back. It was 645 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: barely with Oh my gosh, but I'm glad I did it, 646 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: and yeah, you conquered a fear. 647 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: You did it. And I'm sure you're so happy that 648 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: you were coming home. 649 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: Yes they were. 650 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: They were like, we did You're done? 651 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm glad I did it. But I'm good. 652 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: How long are you in New York for? 653 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: We've been here for about a week and a half 654 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: and then we go home this week. Nice. Yeah, it's good. 655 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited. I can't wait for everyone to 656 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: see the show. When does it premiere? 657 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: So this airs on Tuesday nights after Housewives of Beverly Hills. 658 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: We got the best time. I'm so excited. And the 659 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: girls and I are doing Watch What Happens Live tomorrow 660 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: and they're going to be Mocktail bartenders and who's your 661 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: guest sutton. 662 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: Yun fun night. 663 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm excited. I'm excited for the girls to 664 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: do his show, you know, to be the bartenders on 665 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: the show. 666 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so special. It's it's like such a 667 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: fun thing that you guys all get to do together. 668 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: So excited. The last time they were at Watch What 669 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: Happens Live was they were so little. We were in 670 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: New York. I was filming a TV show. It was 671 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: Hurricane Sandy. Oh my gosh, it was Halloween and I 672 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: did Andy's show and the girls were in the going 673 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: to the offices. They're getting candy because it was Halloween 674 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: and we were stuck here. 675 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: That's so. I remember when during Hurricanes Sandy, my dad 676 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: was doing a play, actually in New York, and he 677 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: was doing a Broadway play and it was I'd never 678 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: seen anything like that. 679 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 2: No, it was insane. It was insane. 680 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, now you get to go back in the weather. 681 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: It won't be horrible, and you know, the girls can 682 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: enjoy it more. 683 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: They were probably close to Andy's kids. Age is when 684 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: your last almost. 685 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love watch What Happens Live. It's 686 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,959 Speaker 1: so fun. It's really fun. 687 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: It's fun to watch show. 688 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you so much for doing this, Thank 689 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm so grateful and I can't 690 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: wait for you know, season two. 691 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. 692 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing. 693 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: I'm maybe you can interview my daughters because I'm sure 694 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: they will love to. I would love being the daughter, 695 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 2: you know, and you doing what you're doing. It's so inspiring. 696 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much. 697 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: Really, oh it's really wonderful. 698 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: Thank you. I would love to talk to them, so 699 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: let's let's let's get that together and I'll give them 700 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: my phone number and stuff. 701 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you, bye bye. 702 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me on another episode 703 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: of What in the Winkler. Please download, like, post, share 704 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: and get your friends to listen as well.