1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The like the ceiling can hold us. Addition, 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: as the Bengals look to advance to the AFC Championship 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Game for the second straight year by knocking off the 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills on the road, coming up, I'll talk to 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: a fan favorite in Judai Nation, Kay Adams, who says 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: that serving is the ruler of the jungle at pay 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Course Stadium was her favorite day since covering the NFL. 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: We'll look at the state of the Bengals offensive line, 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: and then we'll hear from the guy who yells in 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: the locker room after wins, veteran coach Mark Duffner, who 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: discusses that as well as why he calls Joe Burrow 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: butt kiss. 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In the two 39 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: year history of the Ruler of the Jungle Ceremony, the 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Bengals have had a great mix of people leading the 41 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Hooday chant, including a popular NFL TV host who I 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: caught up with this week. She is the host of 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Up and Adams on fan Duel TV, and she is 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: universally loved by Bengals fans, with my wife Peg at 45 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the top of the list. She is k Adams. K 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: you have referred to the Bengals as my Bengals on 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: your show. How is the stress Level? Last Sunday night? 48 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: In the game against the Ravens? Very stressful, but also 49 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: so fun. I think it was the best wild Card 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: weekend ever. A play with Logan Wilson and Sam Hubbard 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: that will live in infamy. And I don't mean that 52 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, I cover all thirty two teams. It's one 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: of those. It's the immaculate reception, elite tier of plays, 54 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: and that something to be excited and proud of as well. 55 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: So sure was I worried? Was I jumping up on 56 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: my couch? And was I hiding behind the couch when 57 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: things weren't going so well? Absolutely, but there's a lot 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: to look forward to, and but a lot that needs 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: to be worked on as well, Dan, and thank you 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: for having me. Just hearing your voice say my name 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: is really crazy. Do you have a preference between the 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: fumble in the jungle or the Hubbard yard dash as 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: a nickname for the play. Fumble in the Jungle rolls 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: off the tongue. It's fun, it's easier. The Hubbard yard 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: dash sounds a little harder to say, the immaculate rejection. 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: I also don't like, Yeah, I'm with you. Fumble in 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: the Jungle I think is the winner. So the win, 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately for the Bengals, came with the cost is Jonah 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Williams suffered a knee injury. You tried to help. You 70 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: found a flight from LA to Cincinnati and offered to 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: pay for it for Andrew Whitworth, where you had disappointed 72 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: when he turned you down. I just don't quite understand 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: why he turned me down. He had some riff raff 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: about how he has giraffe legs and he's trying to 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: say that he's not in shape like this is there's 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: no so let's wait a week. Then let's get past 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the bills and when things get dirty in Kansas City, 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: like you need to be there, then you'll be one, 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: even if it's just for the Super Bowl. Stand there 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: block of guys be a big velveta cheese block. I 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: know you have it in you and I really but sincerely, 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: it's not just a cute storyline. Dan. You think about 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, he has familiarity with him. Zach Taylor comes 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: from the Shaw McBay coaching tree, and there is connective 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: tissue there. It wouldn't be the craziest thing for him 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: to step in and have success. But luck, I mean hopefully, 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: we don't need it. Right we don't know what's going 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: on with the knee of Jonah Kappa. There's a chance 89 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: they can be back, and I do want to say 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: digging into the numbers, I surprised myself because I gave 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the Bills a lot of credit for how well they've 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: played without there one hundred twenty six million dollars edition 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: in von Miller. But if you'd scratch into the numbers 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: a little further, and NFL research did a really good 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: job at this, you know the pass rush is weakened 96 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: without him. They haven't been able to generate a ton 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: of pressure without the blitz, so it might equal itself 98 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: out as we have this issue lingering against Buffalo. So 99 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: with the starting three offensive lineman out for the Bengals, 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: is there anything about the Bengals, whether it's Joe Burrow 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: or something else about the team that makes you think 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: that this is a group that might be able to 103 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: overcome something like that. Of course, the passing game looked 104 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: great in the first quarter between these two teams before 105 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: the action got suspended in that regular season game. I 106 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: think Bengals fans are going to travel and that's going 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: to be meaningful. You heard Zach Taylor sort of asking 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: willing for that. And you know, you can look at 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: a weakness on the Bengal side and you can equal 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: it out by looking at a weakness on the bill side, 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: which is their turnovers two pick and a fumble return 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: last week. And the issue with that is that the 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Dolphins weren't able to capitalize on that. You have to 114 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: cash in. The Dolphins didn't Jesse Bates let's go. You know, 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: we got to Sam Hubbard these opportunities into the end 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: zone and with Josh Allen most interceptions now all year, 117 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: most fumbles, I absolutely think they can get it done 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: if they capitalize on those opportunities, which seem like we'll come. 119 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: We are visiting with Kay Adams. You were the ruler 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: of the jungle before the home game against the forty 121 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: nine ers last year. You really seem to love the experience. 122 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Did that forge a connection for you with Bengals fans. 123 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: It is my favorite day in my NFL career. And 124 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I know I wasn't even working and I was just 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: having fun. But I've been to Super Bowls, I've been 126 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: on the field after Super Bowls, I've been all over 127 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: the place interviewing them. It was so fun. The energy 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: was so welcoming, so full of gratitude for the moments 129 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: and enjoying the moment, which is something that I think 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: NFL fans struggled to do. And yeah, just from getting 131 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: to the airport to the hotel, to walking around and 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: trying everybody's different chili and snacks and playing cornhole and 133 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: being in the studio in that stadium and hearing the 134 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: music and feeling the energy like there's just nothing better. 135 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: It was a day that I'll never forget. And when 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: I saw even Hush on the broadcast on Sunday, night 137 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: doing it, I was like, I wish it was great. Well, 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's an open invitation for you to come 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: back in the future and be the ruler of the 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: jungle again. We've got an interesting matchup coming up this 141 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: Sunday in Buffalo with two teams that just went through 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: a traumatic experience together. What did you think of how 143 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, the Bengals players and the Bengals fans conducted 144 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: themselves after the collapse of Damar Hamlin, Oh with complete class, 145 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: in the perfect right way. It was. You know, in 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: those moments when those things happen, you would expect there 147 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: to be already guidelines of what's going to take place. 148 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: No one can predict that that would happen or something 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: like that would happen, but it has to be if 150 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: you're you know, as an organization, the NFL has to 151 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: anticipate things happening, bad things, disasters, good things. What do 152 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: you do? What's the checklist that we go to? And 153 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: it seemed a bit in disarray, and I think everyone 154 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: can agree with that. In those moments, you look to leadership, 155 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: You look to leadership from the NFL, and you look 156 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: to who am I looking at on the field, and 157 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: that was Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott, who I think 158 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: deserves so much credit and are getting that credit for 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: how they conducted themselves and knowing it was the right 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: thing to not play the game or to at least 161 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: take a while and go into the locker rooms. And 162 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, Zach Taylor, I sometimes not a gripe, but 163 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I sometimes think like, do you have that demonstrative like 164 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: fight in you? And you know, everyone from t Higgins 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow told me, of course he does. And 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: you saw it in the weeks after. Once you know 167 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: that everything settled and fans were so gracious, and you know, 168 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: this Bengals team knew we're going to not play this 169 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: game and it's probably going to take away, you know, 170 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: some of our options as far as our seating with 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: what the rule book said in the off season and 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: those things that were decided upon, and then for that 173 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: to get flipped. I loved seeing Zach Taylor come out 174 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: and you know, really say his peace on it, because 175 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: I think it's important and I think it's danger as precedent, 176 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: which I talked about a lot on my show. But 177 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Bengals fans, you know, I Blackbourne said it best. You 178 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: still got to play us. You still got to play us. 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: We'll go over there and we'll whoop on you two. So, 180 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: if anything, if there's any team that I think that 181 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: could handle the adversity and the ups and downs, it 182 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: is a team that needs to get it going and 183 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: needs to get it going. Now, well, on that topic, 184 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: you said on your show recently you thought the Bengals 185 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: got a raw deal when the NFL tweaked its rules 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati really didn't have much of an opportunity to benefit. 187 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: What do you think would have been fair? I think 188 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: it would have been fair to adhere to what the 189 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: rule book said and what I'm sure that everyone making 190 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: those decisions in the moment, you know, wasn't thinking about 191 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: because everyone was just thinking about DeMar Hamlin, and that's 192 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: what it should have been. But the gripe I have 193 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: with it is that there's all of the con sequences 194 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: that everyone had. Everyone got knocked around by this, but 195 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: then or something bad happened the Ravens, though, having inability 196 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: to account for the what if? That's what the playoff. 197 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: That's what Week eighteen is, That's what Week seven it's 198 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: what if? What if? We can still possibly get this. 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: Like you look at the Steelers, we can still get in. 200 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: All we have to do is this we need. It's 201 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: all about hope. That's what you account for in those games, 202 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: and I felt like the league accounted for that with 203 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: the decision to change the rules for pretty much all 204 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: of the other teams in the AFC except for the Bengals. 205 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: All of the consequences, none of the potential benefits. And 206 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I didn't find that to be particularly fair, And I 207 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: think everybody has a bit to complain about with it. 208 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: But the complaint by everyone should be there should never 209 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: been the vote. There should never have been a change 210 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: in this until the off season, because I do believe 211 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: that it's the responsibility of the NFL to account for 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: and anticipate these sort of things happening with all the 213 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: stakes that could potentially happen, and they didn't for this one. 214 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: So a trip to the AFC Championship Game will be 215 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: on the line this Sunday in Buffalo. What are a 216 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: couple of your keys to the matchup? Oh my gosh, 217 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: I just want T Higgins to go off. Like I said, 218 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: I think when you were watching the passing game in 219 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: the first quarter before this horrible thing happened that stopped 220 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: the play. Burrow was not missing. He looked really, really good. Now, 221 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: I will say I'm a little worried about Tradabus White 222 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: if I'm a Bengals fan, because he came back from injury. 223 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: He was hurt towards acl week twelve. I think last 224 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: year has come back and he wasn't, you know, jumping 225 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: out the gates looking like shutdown corner like we expect 226 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: him to look. But he's looked better every week. He 227 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: looked really good last week as well. And when you 228 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: do have what has been a pass rush that can't 229 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: generate as much pressure, I'm looking at those corners in 230 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: that secondary to really bring it and have that happened. 231 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: So I would say capitalizing on the turnovers that are 232 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: going to come your way from Josh Allen because for 233 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: whatever reason, that's what's happening. And I also feel like 234 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: this team, this Bill's team, when they play with a lead. 235 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: I think Dable was very let's go get foot on 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: the gas, and I don't know the Dorsey. I think 237 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: he gets a little bit more conservative, and I just 238 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: hope that Zach Taylor matches that conservative behavior with more 239 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: aggressive behavior. That's what I'll say. Hey, you are an 240 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: honorary member of Hu Day Nation. Like I said, Bengals 241 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: fans love you and we love having you on the show. 242 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, and I hope 243 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: we crossed path soon. Dan. I want you to sit 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: there and every night before you go to sleep, I 245 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: want you to think about and manifest what calling that 246 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning game for the Bengals for this twenty 247 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: twenty two season will sound like and look like, and 248 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: then we'll get there. Okay, that sounds like a great idea. 249 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: And as I said before we started this interview, I 250 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: cannot be helped responsible for my lack of professionalism. If 251 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: that happens, I can't wait to hear it, and I'll 252 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: probably be there in person, so I'll have to listen 253 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: to it the next day. But we are looking forward 254 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: to it, of course. Good luck, Bengals fans, go travel. 255 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: I know Bengal Jim already boys tickets. He's headed up 256 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: there to Orchard Park. So dress warm, but be loud, 257 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: and I wish I could be there, of course, cheering 258 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: these Bengals. As I mentioned at the beginning of that interview, 259 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: Kay recently started hosting her own show, called Up and Adams, 260 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: every day at eleven am Eastern on fan Duel TV. 261 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: One of her regular guests his former Pro Bowl safety 262 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Eric Weddle, who I should point out spent three seasons 263 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: late in his career playing for the Baltimore Ravens. He 264 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: might have provided some bulletin board material on Thursday when 265 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: he said this on K's show. Honestly, they should have 266 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: lost the Ravens and they got outplayed by the Ravens. 267 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: They snuck that through. They weren't scorn or sniffing another 268 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: point once those linemen went out and everyone knew it, 269 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: and then that play happened at the goal line, which 270 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: is really unfortunate for the Ravens and everyone involved. Tyler 271 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: Huntley played a great game, and you wonder why those 272 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: things happen. That's the great game. That's why the sports 273 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: are great. You never know what's going to happen or 274 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: why guys make decisions like that. But they got I'm sorry, 275 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I say they got zero chance gets the bills here. 276 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: This is a very distressing interview. We try to be nice. 277 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: We made protect Joe, we made it. Okay, they can't 278 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: they can't protect them. They're they're playing without any lineman. 279 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: How are how do you expect that team to go 280 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: in there get quick? Yeah, that's gonna last. This is 281 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: a top five defense. This is this is listen. They 282 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: have they've had the numbers, say, trouble generating pressure without 283 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: von Miller so and but to day this white looks 284 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: better than ever. So they might pick it up in 285 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: the second are great and all, but when you're playing 286 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: with second and third stringers, it doesn't matter. That's the 287 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: reality that the Bengals are facing right now. How do 288 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: you manufacture not turn the ball over? How to be 289 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: able to give your defense and give your team the 290 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: best shot of winning with that with playing with a 291 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: mangled old line in the playoffs against one of the 292 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: best teams in the league. Like, I don't know they 293 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: got through it last year. I just don't see it happening. 294 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: You're telling me, you're telling me, and I like the 295 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: Bills a lot. You're telling me. You don't see a 296 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: couple wonky turnovers by Josh Allen company who Josh Allen 297 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: who now leads the league and fumbles turnovers all of 298 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: the interceptions, leads the league. You don't see a couple 299 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: of funny things happening with Jesse. Jesse Bates catches one 300 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and takes it to the house and they win the game. 301 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Come on, Okay, I know your hearts pulling for the Bengals. 302 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: I know it deep down. I'm not saying any of 303 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: that that could happen, may very well happen, Okay, and 304 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: it will happen, and they're still not gonna win because 305 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: of the fact that they're playing with them a deteriorated 306 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: old line. I mean, they're not gonna be able to 307 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: run the ball. How they're going to protect and take 308 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: some shots up the field. It's gonna be a minimized 309 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: game plan of quick game and shots go balls to 310 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Chase and Higgins Like, yeah, it's just not going to work. Well, 311 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: It's true, It's true. I mean, mixing two point eight 312 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: yards per Kerry couldn't get it done now with another 313 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: offensive lineman I were defending, you know, AFC chance like 314 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: they're battle tested. They got an amazing, incredible big game quarterback. Like, 315 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm not just craying any of that. I just looking 316 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: at the facts. And if I was a betting man, 317 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm putting a lot of money on the bills because 318 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: of those reasons. Do you know the only thing? Obviously 319 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I have like an unrealistic, you know, not very objective 320 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: love for this team. But when I look at this 321 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: offensive line, it's not that different than the one that 322 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: took them to the super Bowl last year. So they 323 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: have the same issues. They might not win it, but 324 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: to you know, like, it's not that different. I'm worried, 325 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: but saying there's no chances mean a lot of people 326 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: don't like what I say. Not always right too, so 327 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I can admit when I'm wrong. How great would it 328 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: be to see Wettle have to eat his words on 329 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: her ship next week? And I would like to point 330 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: this out. Eric Wettle said the Bengals weren't sniffing another 331 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: point once the lineman went out, and everybody knew it well. 332 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: On the Bengals first drive of the third quarter, with 333 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Jackson Carmen at left tackle, the Bengals went eighty three 334 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: yards on twelve plays for a touchdown and added a 335 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: two point conversion. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to 336 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: you by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to 337 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: play with tickets inside merchandise up for grabs find both 338 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: inside the Bengals app While Wettal's comments probably got under 339 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: your skin, it's obviously fair to wonder if the Bengals 340 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: can overcome losing three starting offensive linemen over the last 341 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: four weeks. Hakimadenagy will be making his third start at 342 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: right tackle, Max Sharping will be making his second start 343 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: at right guard, and Jackson Carmen will be making his 344 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: first start at left tackle. Joe Burrows says the team 345 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: has no doubt that this group can do the job. 346 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: It's really not. All the guys that are playing have 347 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: played a lot of football for us. They're playing some 348 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: different positions now, but you know, last year a Kim 349 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: was a starter, Max was a starter, and Jackson was 350 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: a starter at at some point in the year. So 351 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: we have a lot of faith in all those guys. 352 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Harman six starts as a rookie last year all came 353 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: at guard. Now he's back at his college position at 354 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Clemson left tackle. Here's Jackson, followed by Zach Taylor. You know, 355 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm a whole year more experience. I think my body's better. Yeah, 356 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, Sam, we got a great squat, so I'm 357 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: decided to be able to go out there and compete. 358 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: My budgess, his attitude has been great. He's continued to 359 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: work knowing that his opportunity to can come at any 360 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: moment at any position really happens to be a left 361 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: tackle right now, and I think he's really taking hold 362 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: of it and worked and listening to Frank and Derek 363 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: and you know, proud of the progress that he's made. 364 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: Anytime a player goes through their first second year in 365 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: the league, you know, it can be different from college 366 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: and and just playing offensive line. It's difficult. You know, 367 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: your your pointing gets a whole different breed of player, 368 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you get up to this level. And 369 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: I think Jacksons did a great job of taking everything 370 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: he's learned from his first year and putting himself in 371 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: a great position to be successful. The Bills are a 372 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: middle of the pack pass rushing team. They're tied for 373 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: fourteenth and sacks and ranked fourteenth in pressure percentage, and 374 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: those numbers have dropped since they lost von Miller when 375 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: he tore his ACL on Thanksgiving, but Buffalo has an 376 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: excellent defense overall. The Bills were second in the NFL 377 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: in points allowed. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to 378 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: you by Alta Fiber future proof fiber Internet capable of 379 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take your home, business, 380 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: and community to a new level. Le h your connection 381 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: with all to Fiber. Bengals fans are still buzzing about 382 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard's game winning ninety eight yard fumble return last 383 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Ravens. For perspective on that play and 384 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: more on this week's game, I caught up with the 385 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: most experienced member of the Bengals coaching staff, sixteen nine 386 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: year old Mark Duffner, who is now in his forty 387 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: eighth year of college or pro coaching. Duff in your 388 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: many years in football, have you seen anything comparable to 389 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard's ninety eight yard fumble return game winning touchdown. No, Dan, 390 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: I haven't, and thank god that it occurred as it did, 391 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: and of course we were cheering for him to get 392 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: it to the ends, on which he in fact did so. No, 393 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. Was unbelievable. I know 394 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: some football fans around the country might be saying, oh, 395 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals got a little bit lucky or something like that. 396 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: But when you do that, game after game after game 397 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: and come up with a takeaway when you absolutely have 398 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: to have it defensively. At that point, can we safely 399 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: say it's no longer luck? Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, frankly, 400 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: this team has bought into understanding the value of takeaways 401 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: and winning the turnover battle, and they practice it, you know, 402 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: in terms of so it's not by accident. You can't 403 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: get turnovers unless you try to get them, and they 404 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: practice that in the practice routine and it carries over 405 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: to the games. And the thing that too is just 406 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: the awareness. I mean the awareness that Logan Wilson had 407 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: that and he's a very bright player and an aware player, 408 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: but could get the ball off him as he did. 409 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: And yes, we got a good bounce that came right 410 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: to Sam, but we see that in our opponents oftentimes too, 411 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: the lucky bounce. But then Sham who went to do 412 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: with it as did the rust of him in terms 413 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: of an escort to the end zone. So it was 414 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: well done. We're visiting with defensive assistant Mark Dufner. I 415 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: want to turn the clock back a little bit. Back 416 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, you took a job as the linebackers 417 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: coach for the Miami Dolphins. And the quarterbacks coach was 418 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: thirty one year old Zach Taylor. What were your early 419 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: impressions of Zach and did you have any inkling that 420 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: someday this guy could become an NFL head coach. Well, first, 421 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: my early impressions and opinions were I saw a very 422 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: bright guy, a very energetic guy, a very positive guy 423 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: in the way that he taught, in the way he 424 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: presented himself to his quarterbacks and also to the office 425 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: of staff and our offensive team, and also to the 426 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: team in general. So I was very impressed with him. 427 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: He seemed to be to have an awareness that was 428 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: well beyond his ears. If you will, you know, he 429 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: was a pretty mature young man for coaching, and showed 430 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: that in a way not only in the football in it, 431 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: but just in the way he presented himself. And yeah, 432 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: I could see that. He I thought, Okay, this guy's 433 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: got a chance to be a coordinator, and of course 434 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: if that goes well and he could have a chance 435 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: of being a head coach. Did I know it would 436 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: happen as fast as it did. I can't say. I 437 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: can't say that, but certainly you had a you know, 438 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I had him circled if you will, as a guy 439 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: that looked like he was going to move and move 440 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. What did you think people across the country 441 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: learned about Zach with the way that he conducted himself 442 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: after demorrow Hamlin's collapse. Well, I think they learned the 443 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: genuineeness of him, the character of him. And that's what 444 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm so pleased for him, is that he's even though 445 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: those he's had some really tough situations and occurring as 446 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: coaching as a head coach, a couple of tough seasons 447 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: early on in different all kinds of the COVID thing. 448 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Everything that could you could think of that's happened has happened. 449 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: But I've said to him before, I said, look, these 450 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: are going to pay back big time, big dividence for you, 451 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: because if everything was peaches and cream, you wouldn't know 452 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: how to react to tough situations. Well, you know, with 453 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: a Mars situation, and there's no playbook manuel for that. 454 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: But he acted on his own character, his own genuineness, 455 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: as I said before, and obviously made a terrific and 456 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: rightful decision. And I think that I couldn't be more 457 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: proud of him for that, And and he's endeared himself 458 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: to the country in the world with that, and that's 459 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: what it's all about. And sometimes we forget those things, 460 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: but that's the most important thing, and obviously that was 461 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: first and foremost in Zach's mind. So here we are 462 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: just a few weeks later, and the Bengals and Bills 463 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: are going to meet and the play off game. Last 464 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: week he faced a bitter division rival and those games 465 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: are always nasty. The Bengals and Bills went through a 466 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: traumatic experience together, they helped each other through it. Does 467 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: it feel unusual going into this game, Maybe a little bit, 468 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: But I think that what's the best thing is that 469 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: it feels great because Damar Hamlin has recovered into a 470 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: point where it looks like he's going to be in 471 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: pretty good shape moving forward. And I think that's taken 472 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: a lot of concern and feeling off of a lot 473 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: of people, and so we're particularly excited about that. That's 474 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: first and foremost. But we're also very respectful for the 475 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: talent this team has we're going to face and excited 476 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: about having that competition. We couldn't wait to have it 477 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: on that Monday night, and we're pretty excited about having 478 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: it on Sunday afternoon, we're chatting with Bengals coach Mark Duffner. 479 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm turning the clock back now even further to nineteen 480 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: ninety seven, your first year and since and Addie, that 481 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: was the year that Boomer assias and ended his career 482 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: with a flourish. He famously took over with about a 483 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: month to go and sparked to turn around with his leadership. 484 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: How does Boomer's approach compared to what you've seen out 485 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow in his first three years? Very similar 486 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and that they were both 487 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: They're both very confident, very detailed people. I think Boomer 488 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: at that time I saw quite a bit of strong 489 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: leadership from him. You know, he he was not afraid 490 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: to address a lot of situations, and I think Joe 491 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: does that in his way too. But you know, there's 492 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: a lot of similarity in them. Mind. I just know this. 493 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: I think our team rallied around Boomer that year and 494 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: they felt very confident with him and the driver's seat, 495 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: if you will. And I know that our football team 496 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: feels that way about Joe Burrow and how he conducts 497 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: the team and himself on and off the field. Do 498 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: you have a favorite Burrows story or memorable moment so 499 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: far from being around him for three years, Well, I 500 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: you know, I affectually call him buckas, you know, because 501 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: he's as tough as nails, you know, and and he 502 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: would be a great middle linebacker if, in fact he 503 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: opted to play on defense. So I oftentimes after a 504 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: game just because of his not I mean, I admire 505 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: his playing and his decision making, he's throwing all the 506 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: things that he does offensively, but I also have great 507 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: respect for the toughness, both mental and physically that he 508 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: hasn't demonstrates. So that's why I said, I call him Buckas, 509 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: And I've talked to him a couple of times about here. 510 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: He said, okayy course, coach, I love it, and you know, 511 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: he loves the fact that I throw that out to 512 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: him once in a while. But I'm so pleased that 513 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: the ownership in this franchise and this city has a 514 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: player and person of the depth of Joe Burrow where 515 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: we're blessed. So Bucas is a very appropriate nickname for 516 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: you to bestow on somebody. Since you coach linebackers for 517 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: most of your NFL career and the Bengals have two 518 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: starters right now that are playing at a very high level. 519 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: Let's start with Logan Wilson. What makes him special? Well, 520 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: I think, I think is an awareness and certainly his athleticism. 521 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I remember when we when I watched his film at 522 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: YO mean, I watched two series of plays and stopped 523 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: it and went upstairs and said, the Duke and the 524 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: staff upstairs, boy, we got to get this guy, because 525 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: you just he had everything you were looking for. He 526 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: had the certainly the physical traits and the range and 527 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: the quickness and change of direction. But he could play run, 528 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: hand pass equally well. And his awareness was excellent. So 529 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I love him, and I love him as 530 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: a person suit too, but I mean he's he is 531 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: everything you want as a as a linebacker and as 532 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: a defensive player, and then some and then there's Germain Pratt. 533 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Is he one of the most unsung linebackers in the NFL? 534 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I think he is. And I really want to compliment Jermaine. 535 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: I thought I liked what we saw when we were 536 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: looking at him prior to the draft, in his first 537 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: year or prior to being here. And I liked his 538 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: height in fact, that he'd been a safety early in 539 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: his career at NC State. I like that part of it. 540 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: He came in in his rookie year. You know, it 541 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: was a little tough for him initially, as it is 542 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: for most rookies, and uh, you know, I think that 543 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: he was trying to trying too hard in a lot 544 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: of ways to make plays. And thank god that he's 545 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's now kind of seen the bigger picture 546 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: of playing this cat. Now he studies, his preparation is terrific. 547 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: He's constantly communicating what the play is about to be 548 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: and that happens through great study in the classroom and 549 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: on the field. And then the fact that he's he's 550 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: got big playability. I mean the interceptions that he's made, 551 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: the one last year against Las Vegas, the ball, the 552 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: ability to get the ball off of people in Kansas City, etc. 553 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so I can't be more pleased for a 554 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: young man who has talent who's continuing to develop it. 555 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: I think where you see where he started, where he 556 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: is today again, that's due to one his efforts and 557 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: certainly the coaching staff. So well done for Jermaine Pratt. 558 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: We're chatting the defensive coach, Mark Duffner, Back in late November, 559 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: the night before the Tennessee road game, Zach Taylor pointed 560 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: out the team meeting that all the experts were saying 561 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: how hard the Bengal schedule was, and he reminded the 562 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: players that they got to play us. That's become the 563 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: motto and you become the guy who yells it in 564 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: the locker room after victories. Is it just a fun 565 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: thing or has that rallying cry had a real impact. 566 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that I think perhaps the ladder, I think, 567 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: and that's again attributed to the outstanding team meeting that 568 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: Coach Taylor had, putting that in perspective with him and 569 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: really bringing that to the forefront, that that's an important thing. 570 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we can hear about this and hear about that, 571 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: but it's really all about us. And you see that 572 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: that's that standard all around the building, all around the 573 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: locker room. It's about us and it is and he 574 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, he kind of tied that into the scheduling 575 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: part of the thing, and so I think that the 576 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: players understand that it's helped to kind of bring to 577 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: the forefront just that point it's about us and it's 578 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: really what we do in the game for sixty minutes. 579 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: It matters the most, and if we continue to do 580 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: our best in terms of fundamentals and effort and playing together, 581 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: that things will generally turn out the way we want. 582 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: Do your friends and family get a kick out of 583 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: hearing you yell that in the locker room in these 584 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: celebration videos, they perhaps do? I hope that, you know, 585 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: it's I kind of get a little emotional at times, 586 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: and so that's kind of a blurting if you will. 587 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: But ill anything that that that's happened from that certainly 588 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: has attributed to coach Taylor and his message has been 589 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: and if I somehow add to that in some way, 590 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: then good, you know. But I mean, yeah, they'll occasionally 591 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: laugh or something about that. So yeah, final thing for 592 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: coach Mark Duffner. You've had a long and distinguished career 593 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: in college football and in the NFL. You've worked with 594 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coaches like Woody Hayes and Dick lebou. 595 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: You've been around tremendous players. You were there when Archie 596 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Griffin won his second straight Heisman. You helped when Brett 597 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: Farve was in Green Bay. What did it mean to 598 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: you to be on a Super Bowl staff last year, 599 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: and what would a super Bowl ring mean if you 600 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: can win one. Well, first of all, to be on 601 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl staff last year and have that opportunity, 602 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: that's after I think twenty six years in the NFL, 603 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: and you know so many people work hard to get 604 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: to that opportunity and to have that feeling and that experience, 605 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: I'll be forever grateful. I mean, I just it was 606 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want I didn't want the days to end. 607 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: I wanted them to try to milk every minute out 608 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: of the each day we possibly could, and to you know, 609 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: be in position to perhaps have another swing at it 610 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. So it's it's something you're all everybody 611 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: strives for. You're striving, you know, to do the best 612 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: you can, to be the best you can, to have 613 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: a chance to play in that which is kind of 614 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: the symbol of the best. Uh. You know, we're very 615 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: thankful and grateful for and we're hoping like crazy we 616 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: can get there. Always great to visit with you. Thanks 617 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: so much for your time and best of luck against 618 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: the Bills. Thanks Dan, appreciate being with you. The Bengals 619 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast has brought to you by Kettering Health the 620 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: official healthcare provider of the Bengals. With more than one 621 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: hundred twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers. Kettering 622 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Health is committed to guiding you to your best health. 623 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: Visit ketteringhealth dot org to learn more. Now time for 624 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: this week's Know the Faux segment and for the latest 625 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills. I spoke to my longtime friend 626 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Adam Benini, the sports director at w g r ZTV 627 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Adam, before we get to the nuts and 628 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: bolts of the matchup on Sunday, let me ask you 629 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: this question. Do you think there's a chance that DeMar 630 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: Hamlin will be there on Sunday for the coin toss 631 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: or in some sort of capacity. Well, it's interesting, Dan, 632 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: because today we got kind of an update on that. 633 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Sean mcderman didn't indicate that he would be at the game, 634 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: but thankfully, DeMar Hamlin continues to make a lot of progress, 635 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: and McDermott revealed that he's in the building. He was 636 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: here today at Bill's headquarters. Right now as we record this, 637 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: he's in the building. Mcdermot's said almost daily players had 638 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: seen him. Mitch Moore said he was a little bit tired. 639 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: You know, you can tell he's recovering, but he's making 640 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: a lot of progress. Wants to be He wanted to 641 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: be at the game last weekend, and I think they 642 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: convinced him out of it that they didn't want him 643 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: to push himself too far, too fast. So I don't 644 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: have a definitive answer for you, Dan, but it would 645 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: not surprise me, given everything that transpired a couple of 646 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago Monday night and how quickly he's recovered. I 647 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: know he wants to be there. It wouldn't surprise me 648 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: to see him make some type of an appearance. Bring 649 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: some Kleenex for me if that's the case. I tend 650 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: to cry like a baby anyway, So that would be 651 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: very emotional to see that the Bengals played a team 652 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: last week that they despise and the Baltimore Ravens, and 653 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens feel the same way about them. I don't 654 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: know if it's the same thing with the Bills and 655 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: the Dolphins being division rivals, but this is unusual. These 656 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: two teams went through a trem experience together. There's a 657 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: sense of brotherhood camaraderie between these two teams. How do 658 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: the Bills and Buffalo fans feel about the Bengals at 659 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: this point. Oh, I think they hold them an extremely 660 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: high regard. I mean that dates back to twenty seventeen 661 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: and Andy Dalton and all of that history and donations 662 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: to his charity and everything. But obviously the situation with 663 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: the Mark Hamlin took things to a whole new level. 664 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has talked repeatedly about how well he thought 665 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor handled himself in that whole situation came over 666 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: the compassion that he showed. How Joe Burrow led the 667 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: Bengals captains into the Saber excuse me, into the Bills 668 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: locker room at that time that night, as they're all 669 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: kind of absorbing everything and wanted to check on the 670 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: Bills players to see how they were dealing with that situation, 671 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: what their emotions were like, and to show them how 672 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: much they care. So I think there's a level of 673 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: respect that's unusually high between these two teams. I don't 674 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: think it takes anything away from the intensity of what 675 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: we're going to see on the field here at Orchard 676 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Park on Sunday. It may add to it, in fact, 677 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: but I think it's very unique. I mean, it was 678 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: an unprecedented set of circumstances, and I know it was 679 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: greatly appreciated by the Bills. The degree to which and 680 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: how the Bengals players and coaches handled that situation and 681 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: kind of helped them through that night. All right, let's 682 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: get to the matchup with Adam Bannini from w GRCTV 683 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: and Buffalo. The Bills of one eighth straight. But the 684 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: last two games have been too close for comfort, especially 685 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: if you talk to my mom down in Lakewood, New York. 686 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: Is anxiety running high in Buffalo? And should it be? 687 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: I think the turnovers are the biggest you right, Dan, 688 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean three of them against the Dolphins here on Sunday. 689 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: They've had nine in the last three games. So a 690 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: ball security. A lot of times that players will brush 691 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: that off. And Shuan McDermott even said today I asked 692 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: him directly about it, and he said that it's a 693 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: very valid question given away. This thing has been trending. 694 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: He says he trusts his players at this point, and 695 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: it really a lot of it comes down to Josh Allen. Look, 696 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: this offense has not been as diverse, has not been 697 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: as efficient as you know, you think back to that 698 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City game last year, the Divisional round, this same 699 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: stage and the thirteen seconds and you know, gave Davis 700 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: and the four touchdowns and that sort of a thing. 701 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, the explosiveness we saw from this Bill's team, 702 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: it's not there right now. They're still very effective. Dawson 703 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: Knox has begun to emerge. He has touchdowns now in 704 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: five straight games. That's been important. Davis was solid. He's 705 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: not the same player as he was last year, but 706 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: he was solid against the Dolphins on Sunday. So it 707 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: is a concern ball securities at the top of the list, 708 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: but there are other factors as well. So I think 709 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: everyone here has the sense, but the dynamic is different 710 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: with this Bill's team. Yet they continue to win. And 711 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: I think there's also a level of grit with all 712 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: they've endured this year as a group, from the mass 713 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: shooting this past summer, tragically, the way they kind of 714 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: bonded with the community. Dawson Notch lost his brother, they 715 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: helped him through that. Two historic snowstorms that sort of 716 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: a thing, and then the Hamlin situation in Cincinnati a 717 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Monday is at the top of 718 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: that list as well. They've been able to battle through 719 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: a lot and I think that counts for something. But 720 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: in terms of xs and o's, they are not operating 721 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: the same way they did at this stage last year. 722 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: Let me dive further into the turnover specifically where Josh 723 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: Allen is concerned. Sixteen interceptions if you include the playoff game, 724 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: fourteen fumbles, six that have been recovered by the other team. 725 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: Is he forcing things? Is he sloppy? What explains all 726 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: of these turnovers for one of the best quarterbacks in 727 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: the NFL? I think, and this is kind of a 728 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: deep dived in in this take, but I think when 729 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: you're talking about the season and the trend you just 730 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: referred to, I think they had a lot of trouble 731 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: coming up with an answer at the slot receiver position. 732 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: Right when Cole Beasley moved on in March and they 733 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: thought Isaiah McKenzie would be that player. Didn't work out 734 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: that way. They went out and got Jamison Crowder. He 735 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: broke his ankle against the Baltimore Ravens, so they really 736 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: didn't have an answer, and I think that affected a 737 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of things. Suddenly they became a lot easier to 738 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: defend you know, teams could just take away digs and 739 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: suddenly Josh didn't have that option, like he was so 740 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: effective with Beasley all that time. So they bring Cole 741 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: Beasley back, right, he comes out of retirement after a 742 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: brief stint with Tampa Bay and it's taken some time, 743 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: but he hit him for a touchdown this past weekend 744 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and so he hasn't really put on numbers. 745 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: He played in just like two or three games during 746 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: the regular season, but he was effective, had a couple 747 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: of big receptions, one for a touchdown. So I think 748 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: the pendulum is starting to swing back in a positive 749 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: way in terms of that relationship and its impact on 750 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: the offense. But before that, absolutely forcing the football. What 751 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: was the expression from the original top gun Son, your 752 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: egos writing checks your body can't cash. I mean there's 753 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: a lot of because we call him Wyoming Josh here 754 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: in Buffalo when he reverts back to that kind of 755 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: and they don't want to coach that completely out of 756 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: him because it's part of what makes him great. But 757 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: he walks right down that fine line of effectiveness and recklessness. 758 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: He even talked about that today, So I feel like 759 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: that's something that's really those two factors. I think that 760 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: those are the biggest factors behind him, you know, forcing 761 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: the football, turning the football over, and I'm sure that's 762 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: something that the Bengals are well aware of from a 763 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: defensive standpoint. We're talking to my friend Adam Benini, who 764 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: covers the Bills. As you know, the Bengals have a 765 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: battered offensive line. The Bills lost their best pass rusher, 766 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: Von Miller. How good has the pass rush been since 767 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: Von Miller went out? It's been pretty solid. I don't 768 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: think it was as effective as it needed to be 769 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins this past week. You didn't really hear 770 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: Greg Russo's name, for example, but they do have a 771 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: strength in numbers approach there. You know, I think prior 772 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: to the Von Miller signing, they had really invested for 773 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: a number of years. You know, you go back to 774 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: the loss of the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game 775 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: a couple of years back. That was the real indicator 776 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: where you know that they were not well equipped enough 777 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: upfront from a pass rush perspective to deal with Mahomes. 778 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: And so they went out and they invested in the 779 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: draft a aj Epinessa who was their first pick a 780 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: second round pick, as it happened, because they lost the 781 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: first rounder in the trade for Stefan Diggs that particular year. 782 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: But then they go out and they get Rousseau in 783 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: the first round, Basham in the second round, you know. 784 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: The following year, so they have and they bring back 785 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: a shack Lawson. They got Jordan Phillips, the defensive tackle 786 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: at Oliver has really kind of come on this year, 787 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: a former first round pick, and so they'll rotate. It's 788 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: a strength and numbers type approach. But I think that 789 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: at understanding, the Bengals are dealing with injuries on the 790 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: offensive line. We talked before the last game. I thought 791 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: that was the key matchup how effective the Bills could 792 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: be from a pass rush perspective against that Bengals offensive line. Now, 793 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: the dynamic might change a little bit in terms of 794 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: the injury situation, but they do have guys that can 795 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: get home. The way in which Borrow gets that ball 796 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: out so quickly and efficiently I think presents a problem 797 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: for Buffalo. I think this is a game where they 798 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: really begin to feel the absence of von Miller on 799 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: the field. I think the Bengals, with that passing game, 800 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: the timing, those receivers are in a position to really 801 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: exploit that, and by extension, the youth and the secondary. 802 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: You know, Dan Jackson limited to start the week with 803 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: a knee injury. Kaira tire Eelam, their first round pick 804 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: this year, has been very vulnerable at times, had an 805 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: interception to his credit against the Dolphins. Trey White coming 806 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: off the ACL injury last year. Not the same player 807 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: he was in the past, but kind of rounding into form. 808 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: He's looked pretty solid out there. But the Bills vulnerable 809 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: in the secondary as well, so both in terms of 810 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: the pass rush despite the injuries on the offensive line, 811 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: in the way things shape up in the secondary. Dan, 812 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: I think Buffalo, they're vulnerable. I think this is a 813 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: nightmare matchup in terms of what the Bengals bring offensively 814 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: for this Bill's defense. How about safety, because Micah Hyde 815 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: isn't back yet and obviously Damar Hamlin is out. Where 816 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: do they stand at that other safety spot? Well, you've 817 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: got they brought Dean Marlow back, you know, so he's 818 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: a veteran five six years experience in the league. Came 819 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: up with an interception in this past weekend, but again 820 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: you're dealing with Skyler Thompson. I mean a guy, look 821 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: a rookie seventh round pick, talk about telegraphing the ball, 822 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: talk about hanging on to it forever. I mean Vic Prucci, 823 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: my Sports Talk Live counterpartyer and I are counting four 824 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: plus seconds he's hanging onto the ball. You know, he's 825 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: not obviously, he's probably a career backup type player. He's 826 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: not an anticipatory quarterback. Right. So Burrow is the exact 827 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: opposite of that. I mean, Joe is throwing that ball 828 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: to a spot right and the receiver is going to 829 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: be there, and it's all timing based. So it's the 830 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: polar opposite of what they faced this weekend. So I 831 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: do think that they're vulnerable in the safety spot as well. 832 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: Also from the communications standpoint, they've really missed Micah Hyde, 833 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: who went down with a neck injury after Week two, 834 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: and he was so good that at making sure players 835 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: are in the right position pre snap and that sort 836 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: of a thing. I mean, I think if you look 837 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 1: at some of the timeouts this past weekend where have 838 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: been kind of controversial among the fan base, here, Hide's 839 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: absence contributes to some of that, where they're just not 840 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: mcdermot's not comfortable with what he sees how they're aligned 841 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: defensively and they have to burn a time out. So 842 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: I think it affects that that lack of a veteran 843 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: safety in that spot. Of course, Hamlin had done a 844 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: very good job of filling in extremely competent in that 845 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: role prior to what happened with him and his collapse. 846 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: So I think they're vulnerable. I guess what I'm saying 847 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: at a number of levels, both from an execution standpoint 848 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: and from a precep pre snap communication standpoint at that 849 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: safety position. Last thing for Adam Benini, what do we 850 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: know about that famous Buffalo weather on Sunday? Interesting We 851 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: had our chief meteorologist, Patrick Hammer, who is very popular 852 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, for our sports show Monday Night. I 853 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: had him do it like a long range forecast, and 854 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: he said, there's a system coming in here. You're not 855 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: going to really know until Thursday or Friday, but we 856 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 1: could be dealing with a mix of rain and snow 857 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: for that game. It's still they're not sure on when 858 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: it's going to arrive. It could arrive, they thought initially 859 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: maybe like on late Sunday, night into Monday, and now 860 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: it was trending earlier in the week that possibly it 861 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: could be you know, typical Orchard Park, whether something you're 862 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: very familiar with from your background here. I don't know 863 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: that it necessarily affects. I mean, the Bills have been 864 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: very effective dealing with severe weather situations, and they've had 865 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: a number of them to deal with. They're pretty good, 866 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: don't I don't have a sense. I don't think it's 867 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: going to affect the Bengals all that much. I would 868 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: ask you that question. I mean, how do you think 869 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: that would affect the timing? Maybe that Bengal passing game. 870 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: Wind is the only thing that bothers me. They can 871 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: deal with cold, they can deal with precipitation. Wind is 872 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: always the wild card because you never know how the 873 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: wind is going to affect the ball from play to play, 874 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: and they are such a passing dependent team that I 875 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: would be more worried about wind than anything else. All Right, 876 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean that's that. Obviously, wind is 877 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: a primary feature here. They can plan on some of it. 878 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: We're not sure at this point how severe it's going 879 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: to be. Hi. 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