WEBVTT - Are You Dumb? 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.640 Native lamp Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.160 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.320 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.800 Welcome home, y'all. This is episode fifty eight of Native Lampod, 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.680 where we give you all things politics, but a little 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.560 bit of culture sprinkled in there for everybody's taste. We 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.079 are your host Tiffany Cross. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.520 Oh you don't want to go first, I'm Angela Raie. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.160 And I'll go last. As always, I'm Andrew Gillen. We 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.000 want to say welcome home everybody. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:30.320 Let's get to it, y'. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.720 So, y'all, what are we talking about today? We get 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.400 to one being person, which. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.720 Is I'm happy to see y'all. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.600 I think these shows are so much better wear in person. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:42.239 I like it. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:47.680 I definitely think they're a show. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:49.360 I felt it. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:52.280 What do you want to talk about today? So? 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.560 I think people are pretty checked out of politics, I 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.000 really do. Everyone I talked to and I want to 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:01.520 talk about how to curate pete. It's the time of 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.319 year where people are with family and as we go 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.720 into a twenty twenty five that is going to be hectic. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:07.720 How do we carry a peace? 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.199 I love that curating peace? 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.959 Angela well, if there's no justice, there's no peace. So 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.400 we're going to stay in politics a little bit because 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.640 it's it might not be bombs over bag Dad, New Jersey, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.720 but it's something flying over in New Jersey. And now 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.000 they're saying it might be in Atlanta too. It's the drones. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.360 I was just laughing at my dear brother Leonard about 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.240 this last week. Turns out, ah, hi, hell, it might 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:31.760 actually be some there there. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.080 Huh. Well, I can't wait to hear your theory of 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.880 the case for me. A lot of talk about what's 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.880 Kamala's next step, Madam Vice President. Obviously she's been at 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.600 the height of government in this country. Could she go 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.039 down now to one of the states to lead the 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.880 great state of California as its governor. I'd love to 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.320 hear y'all's opinions and thoughts on it. Okay, So let's 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:51.800 get at it. 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.080 Let's do it. Okay. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.360 So I think I might be the only one here 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:05.760 that had a class running none security. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:06.840 Clearance is all I'm trying to say. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.320 But I was scared to go beyond a TS and 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.760 get an SCI clearance, which is the one that goes 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.120 through the CIA. Obviously, y'all know why I didn't want 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.040 to go through the CIA. We have trauma with the CIA. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.680 But I am very curious about what is happening with 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.239 the drones. When I did Breakfast Club last week, Secretary 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.160 of Pete was on and Lenard asked him about the 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.240 drones over New Jersey and I'm not gonna lie to you. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.960 I literally was laughing because I was like, this is 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.520 so ridiculous, Like because Leonard is always on my aliens, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.280 which is fine, they probably do exist. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.000 I'm not, you know, shout out to the ets of 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:42.440 the world. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.000 But I just was saying, what was fascinating to me 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.519 about this is the fact that everybody started. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.200 Seeing them more the more they were reported. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.720 Karen, who is me and Lenard share manager, Me and 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.760 Lenard's share manager, but it's a good Karen was saying 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.400 that she saw seven in her backyard there and I 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.120 was like, were they in the yard or were they 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.680 like she was like, in the skies, Like where are 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.120 we sure. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:07.960 They're not stars? 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.440 So I'm just I am very fascinated with the obsession, yes, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.919 and also what is fact? 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.360 What is fiction? What is a threat? And I'm just curious. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.960 About where y'all are on it. I really don't have 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.680 a thing. I just have heard from New Jersey. Now 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.640 they're in popping up in Atlanta, and I want to 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.680 know how much of it is our fear popping up? 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.200 What is legit about it? 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.560 And then also where some of our national security holes exist. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:31.640 I want to talk about it. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.359 Well, what is the government saying about it? I mean, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:34.840 what's the official line right now? 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.080 Well, here's the thing I changes and. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.160 So initially the National Security Advisor said these are manned aircrafts. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.320 Joe Biden said it was nothing to worry about. Governor 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.160 Hokel in New York and the Governor Murphy in New 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.320 Jersey were like, we need more information. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.400 So it depends on. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.960 What level of government you're at, right and some of 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.640 this is in response to your constituents. The state is like, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.920 we need to know what's really going on because this 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.800 has happened for us and ain't happening. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:04.800 In the nation's capital. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.920 So they think that they're not they think that they're 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.040 playing koy and even Senator Booker was like, we need 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:10.640 more information. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.960 Interesting, according to the reporting there, there is no definitive 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.880 response on what these drones are. And I think to 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.720 Angela's point, This is where you see local and state 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.480 government at odds with federal government. The federal government has 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.880 come out and said that according to what they've seen 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.040 in their investigation and they're talking to people, that some 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:30.880 of these things are not even drones, Like some of 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.720 these things are people seeing regular aircraft, or some of 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:38.400 them are stars, or they have not met the definition 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.160 of a drone. And honestly, if I saw something fly 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.640 over my head, I don't know if I would immediately 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.400 be able to recognize it as a drone. I don't 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.039 know if you remember this, Angela, when we were on 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.479 vacation on Machete Vaka, there was a drone that flew over, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.480 or we were all sitting out by the pole and 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.839 there was a drone that flew over. So I think 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.960 we have to know drones or things that people get 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.960 for Christmas, you know, like they could be teenagers operating 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.520 these drones if they are manned. I wanted to get 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.640 my nephew a drone for Christmas. So we really don't know, 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.680 but I think it is reminiscent of the spy balloon 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.920 that it did turn up to be linked to China, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.400 and we do quite frankly have adversarial governments who are 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.279 very curious about what happens here in the country. We 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.919 as black people, have an innate sense of distrust with 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.600 the government of people coming out to see and look 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.520 for all the people who are concerned that the drones 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.440 are spying on us and what are they, you know, 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.440 getting from us. I just want to let you know, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:38.960 this right here already has a lot right away. Basically, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.719 this is your drone and so you know, I don't 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.960 want to speculate on what this is. One I don't know, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.120 and two you know, we have not heard official response 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.000 yet that that everybody seems to agree on. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:52.000 Three. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.400 Uh, we we cannot link this to any particular adversarial 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.919 government at this time. But I just want to re 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.400 flex to people. I understand why you might be concerned 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.240 when you see something flying over your home. A lot 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.440 of times and we've seen these things, it comes out like, oh, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.720 the military was, you know, testing new equipment in this area, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.360 and that's been linked to a lot of the UFO sightings. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.120 You know, So we basically we don't know. But I 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.440 think that the question of homeland security is a legitimate one. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.760 I don't know if drones are the thing I'm most 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.039 concerned about when it comes to homeland security, but that 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.160 is definitely something that we should consider, even a drone. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:34.360 Crazy that I'm like really too obsessed with this show 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.719 that I'm watching right now that you and I both 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.839 are watching well on television. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:45.920 I know you're gonna say, lyon ass can I say, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.240 I'm three, I have not finish season two, so please 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:48.800 don't want. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.400 You should get it out the diplomat. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.840 Should I were to believe what happens on this show, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.839 basically like everything from the government is a bit of 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.799 up to huge and that there's always something there there, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.640 which frankly has turned out to be the case over 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.680 the arc of history. Drugs, CIA, Connection, d DA, DA 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.200 DA shows get made and then there's a big disconnect 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.000 from it. What concerns me, I think is like the 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.360 absence of definitiveness from the government. Why can't we just 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.680 say these are non threatening and while we may not 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.560 be able to identify exactly what they are, what we 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.200 can rule out is but they were very much so 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.120 prepared to tell us about not only the spyplane but 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.640 also the drones associated with it. They knew that there 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:40.720 were an intrusion of another foreign government surveillance apparatus in 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:45.680 the United States atmosphere. These drones fly at such a 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:50.000 low level. Do they evade detection? Can they be seen 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:55.240 by American satellites that normally observes air traffic in this country? 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.880 If air traffic could have been bought to a halt 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.920 in this country after nine to eleven, if you bring 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.400 air traffic to a halt right now, would drones be 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.920 shot out of the sky? Would they still be allowed 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.680 to move around again? At heights that are taller than 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.880 some of the largest buildings that we know in this country. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:16.040 So the absence of information, and again I will attribute 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.280 this to the fact that I'm obsessed with television right 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.960 now that talks about the undermining of of of what. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.480 Happens and how they manipulate the news already known, Yeah, 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.960 but they will literally plant something in the news story 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.480 talked about the American. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.680 Response to her as an evasion. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.320 There's also a lot of right wing bullshit in that 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.840 show that we can It's still a good show, but 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.600 I'm like, I hear you that being said. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.600 Bullshit or not, it certainly has my spidy senses up 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.960 about whether or not what we get from the government 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.640 is true, or whether there's more than me, like. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.240 The Transformers is more than me. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.520 Now, I just I'm just fascinated because I have been 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.400 you know, I'm a church kid, y'all, and I've been 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.959 saying it's the last and evil days like those things. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.200 So I'm like, are is there some arm again? 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:02.720 And stuff? 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.600 Like what are we on? Because it does seem like, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.319 by the way, you know, I'm not saying he's the 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.080 Answi Christ, but it seemed like the anti Christ might 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:09.920 just got elected. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.640 Yeah. So I actually have a cousin who said that 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.839 when Obama she wouldn't go for Obama because the word 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:17.280 anti Chris Christ. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.080 So she was not biblically accurate. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.520 I would like to talk to you because it's very 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.280 clearly a white man you could look at what we're 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:23.640 part of the. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:28.880 World's grandmother last days we were. When I was three, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.400 I remember being petrified that that was go come home 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:33.880 and the war was going but it's. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.719 Going to be caught up in the rapture or left. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.200 Fine, yeah, and then I went again and then I 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.520 was like, I'm here, what's going on? It was a 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.080 big field. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.560 Well, okay, all that to say y'all. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:44.840 We don't know what the hell is going on with 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.360 the els. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.640 We don't know, But I shouldn't have laughed because maybe 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:49.360 it is serious. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.520 We literally, I mean, we literally have no idea, that's 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:53.840 the quest. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.840 But I should we be nervous that we're not getting 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.280 more from the. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.439 Yes, I think we should be nervous about the multiple 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.080 threats that exist to the United States, which are not 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.280 specific to drones. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:04.880 That's right. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.040 You know, we agree that we are in the cross 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.120 of a lot of people and exactly, well, we talked 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.000 about the phones songs, but also according to the US 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.840 Intelligence under the Biden administration and under the Trump administration 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:23.560 during his twenty sixteen years, the biggest threat to national 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:28.560 security were white supremacists organizations. Yeah, so we have enemies 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:34.440 to the north, enemies to the South, enemies domestically by 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.400 the way, right, exactly, enemies within. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.680 Like relations and Obama. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.880 Okay, yeah, but but even like just individual bad actors 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.400 who aim to sow chaos in the country, and also 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.440 structural bad actors outside of the country, who you know, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.520 played a long game and have a long memory of 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.520 things that America has done to them. When nine to 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:02.000 eleven happened on domestic land. It was like the world stopped. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.760 And I think we have to consider a nine to 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.079 eleven is happening somewhere across this globe on a regular basis, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:13.840 from Gaza to the continent, to areas in South America 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.520 to Haiti, and so I'm like braced all the time 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.760 for what might be coming down the pike when it 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.360 comes to our national security. And it's not it's not 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.679 like I can't function, but it is. It is an 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.720 awareness that I think a lot of us lack. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.480 That's the thing too, I will just say androduces a 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.440 quick point. I feel like we constantly and I'm saying 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.400 we as a collective, not on this show, but we 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:43.040 as a collective. We also don't understand this severe, this 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:47.840 severity of miss and disinformation. Like part of I think 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:55.119 the hysteria around the drone conversation is all of the rumors, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.040 all of what people are identifying with no you know, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.680 they don't have any background in this space to be 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.000 identifying these things. You ain't got it ain't even got 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.320 a telescope and you gotta telescope. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.400 But you know, to speak to to speak to eyewitnessing 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:16.200 and the power of an individual experience is for instance, 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.439 most crimes in this country don't get solved without eyewitnesses, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.000 people having given testimony to what they saw at the time. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.080 That may not have been significant on its own, but 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.560 in the context of what's going on, it's like, oh, now, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.240 this makes sense. And so I am slow to underestimate 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.520 or undermine the experiences that we get, the stories that 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.920 are told, the images that we see from regular everyday people, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.040 because quite frankly, it's been every day regular people that 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.199 have bust the cap off of a lot of stuff 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:50.880 that higher powers would have preferred, frankly to keep secret 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.040 or to make sure is on. I mean, think about 0:12:53.080 --> 0:13:00.439 alien you know sightings, if you will, or foreign space 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.680 and air traveling devices that we would not have known 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.840 otherwise about. They could have been military experiments, it could 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.000 have been training exercises, it could have been any of that. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.120 But they're not broadcasting that to us. It's people who 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.120 were there can lay witness to it, took video and 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:17.720 then we got to see and then guess what. The 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.440 government then comes out later and says this was going on, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.880 this was going on, that's going on the absence of transparency. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.520 The government at least should know. In this example and 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.880 in many others, I don't know, really, I don't know 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.360 that it serves the country well for this many days 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.920 to pass, for this many questions to be out there, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.880 And I think it can be instructive to an enemy 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.839 potentially that no answers are being given. And so how 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.800 long can I actually be in US airspace and conduct 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:49.559 this kind of surveillance if it is or otherwise without 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.760 it gaining the kind of alarm that you wouldn't typically 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.959 think something like this would gain. Again, I'm not a 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.280 conspiracy theorist necessarily, but I do know that it's been 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.600 people who had blown the top off of a lot 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.240 of stuff through through bearing witness that we can credit 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:06.560 for what we know today. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.560 I just wonder about, Yes, transparency with the American people 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.199 in our government is something we should demand at all times. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:13.760 We pay for it. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.400 I look at the dumbing down of the American electorate 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.920 that we're dealing with, and I am a bit concerned 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.680 about creating mass hysteria. But this is I mean, as 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.600 it is happening now, But I don't know what creates. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.880 More like, let us figure out exactly what this is first, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.040 But if they have none. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.400 But if the government doesn't know, I would beg the 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:38.200 question for me, how it is that flying vehicles that 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.440 are not planes wherever sanctioned in the first place, if 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.800 you don't have a radar systematic track, is faster? It correct? 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.360 But also regulation can slow that down quite precipitously if 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.880 it chooses to. It could say. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.960 Technology moves faster in legislation. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.120 I agree with you, but I'm saying at this point, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.800 first of all, jones have been around long enough, and 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.360 the fact that they are getting larger they can be. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.640 And more sophisticated. Though, That's what I'm saying, like, maybe 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:09.400 these are drones that are somehow new technology that's undetectable 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.760 by you know, the most the fancies of America. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:17.240 The reasons tell asking the questions do we believe. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.360 I'm curious for both of y'all, do we actually believe 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.280 that the American government does not know or do they know? 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.720 And they're trying to manage perception. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.680 And again, my Lioness experiences is that they. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.960 Lioness fictional experience. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:33.480 You got to watch. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.680 Emulating art. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.000 I'm going to tell you one of the things that 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.720 Secretary of Pete said in the interview was that there 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.960 are thousands of things in the United States like airspace 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.240 every day, and so even if you do have the 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.240 technology to watch them, what is the thing that signals 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:52.960 that it's a threat? 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.000 And that I think is the backup. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.080 Now, not to get too far in the weeds, but 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.560 like Homeland Security, you know staff or not at the department, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.680 but on the committee, and the amount of rigamarole around 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.680 how they're spending research and development dollars and what companies 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.400 are getting these RFPs and who's writing the RFPs to 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.000 even discover any of this, how they're working with schools 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.480 and centers of excellence to determine what the next frontier 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.640 on research to be. So much of that money is 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.600 wasted with government contractors that are just plugging their old 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.160 friends from folks that they used to work with, rather 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.280 than really going into the very thing that we need. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.880 So it could be way behind the So could believe 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.080 that congressional committees may be on the latter end of 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.240 hearing about what is. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.280 I wouldn't say that, no, I just can't share wholesale, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:40.760 We just can't share it. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.480 I think that the executive operates in a way that 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.080 I think there is a lot of range there, and 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.800 I think there's also a lot of range to what 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.920 the story ultimately becomes that gets told by the executive branch. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.640 I think that's fair. But classified documents are classified documents. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.520 And I will tell you I was surprised to hear 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.240 National security advisors say that these are manned aerial vehicles. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.840 I was surprised to hear that. So that means they 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:06.960 know they know enough. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.560 And maybe I don't know if that was something he 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.720 disclosed that he wasn't supposed to, that was you know, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:11.920 that was originally classified. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.080 But I'm just saying that alone. Says that you should 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.280 have some type of ability to see. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.480 And I don't believe that they don't. She says that, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.879 I think that they aren't saying, and there lies the problem. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.880 Well, they need to classify it here and briefing something 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.560 on it, and hopefully he comes they declassify it. Yeah, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.560 even declassification is decided up on above our pay grade. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.200 There is also a possibility, maybe even a probability, that 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.159 there are functions of this government that function outside of 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.720 the right, outside of the parameter. It's like, perhaps the 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:50.240 true power brokers are, you know, the people we don't 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:50.800 know about that. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.920 She's ye know what I'm saying, But this is true. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:56.920 There are so many people that are put like. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.600 People are mad at President Biden regularly for things that 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.080 his very senior staff are advising him to do. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.400 Some things that he's never touching every day. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.520 He can't the number of things that the president of 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.000 the United States has to has to do, it is 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:11.800 impossible for him to do that. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.560 That is why the staff is so large. That is 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:14.920 why the cabinet is so large. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.879 Yeah, I think I think what you're getting at is 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.760 that there are operations that are undertaken, very important and 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:26.000 serious ones sledge of those who we elect to. The 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.040 reason why we have an elected president is because we 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.040 didn't want to leave. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.880 It to politics. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.280 There are quasi governmental entities that are venture capital funds 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.680 for research and development purposes like they literally they have 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.119 they have codified them, they were legislated. All of that exists, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.240 And that is true that that very rarely reaches the 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.959 President's desk or the cabinet until they're ready to roll 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:49.320 out there and. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.679 Other things that are stricterranean that we may know anyway, 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.760 So you have been exposed to at least part of 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.320 a conversation that can lead us down. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.120 A whole Uh showed him some money because. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:09.879 But is bom uh tiff Yes, where we're going from 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.560 here to a break? Break? That's where we're going, all right, So. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.560 On the other side of the break, I there's you 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.639 had a question about the electoral college, and Angela, I 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.960 think you're gonna answer that. Yeah, So I want to 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:22.200 hear that. 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:32.919