WEBVTT - Danica Patrick on Racing, Nutrition, and Napa Valley 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.960 My name is Jefferys z Carrian and you're listening to 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.120 four Courses with Jeffreys, a Carrion from I Heart Radio. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.239 In four courses, I'll be taking you along for the 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.400 ride while I talk with the top talent of our time. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.280 In each conversation, I focus on four different areas from 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.280 my guest life and career. And during those four courses, 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.080 I'm gonna dig deep and uncover new insights and inspirations 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.280 that we can all use to fuel ourselves to push forward. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.879 My guest for this episode is a wonderful and curious 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:38.200 podcast host. She developed her own successful venued in Napa Valley. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.560 She's the most successful woman in the history of indie 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.839 car racing, and she might even love fitness and nutrition 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.839 more than I do. Without further delay, please enjoy my 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:54.560 insightful conversation with a very special Danica Patrick. Danica, thank 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.480 you so much for doing this for me. I know 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.080 your day is busy, Oh, no problem. I'm happy to 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.840 do it for you, No problem. Are you in l A. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:05.280 Where are you in Scottsdale? In Scottsdale, Love Scottsdale. Do 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.080 you play golf? Not really? But when I do play, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.400 I play horribly. I would think that you would be 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.000 an incredibly good golfer because no one else but yourself 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.440 to mess up. I mean, I think that because of 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.320 that reason, there's a highlight teled accountability and blame I 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.000 place on myself. So it's hard for me to shut 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.160 that off. So I say that what I do is 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.959 I play golf for smiley faces, And by that I 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.560 just mean that on the scorecard, I don't put a score. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.560 I just put whether or not I had a good 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.400 attitude on the whole. And that way, I you know, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.560 if I have to pick my ball up to smile, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.839 then I just picked my ball up for our first course. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.320 Dannika tells me about her childhood background, from working as 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.680 a barista at her family's coffee shop in Wisconsin to 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.000 moving to England as a teenager to pursue her racing career. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.560 So it's really nice down here, but you grew up 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:04.080 in is it? Elloit is that the way you say it? Yeah, Belloy, Wisconsin? Okay, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.160 what's your favorite cheese? What's your favorite Wisconsin cheddar? I 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.120 don't eat cheese anymore, but of course I have. I 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.360 have had cheese plenty of times in my life. I 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:17.120 would say that I really love goat cheese. Wow, yeah, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.800 I love goat cheese. My favorite goat cheese. So Wisconsin 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.080 cheddar was not on your radar. There's like eight kinds. Yeah, 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.560 I mean they don't make that, but I'm sure they 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.360 make it somewhere. But if I were to pick up 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.600 more Wisconsin based cheese, I'd probably say, like a five 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.960 year aged cheddar. Now we're getting somewhere five year aged cheddar. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.880 Very nice. I love the ages on cheddars. I think 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.840 it makes the cheddar so much better. That's not a rhyme. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.400 So your parents, like, we're sort of in the hospitality 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.640 business in a way, right. They had a coffee shop, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.840 what should I say, a java hut? How many did 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.280 they have? Do they have one or was it a franchise? No, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.600 they just had one. Like my mom just truly loves 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.440 coffee so much. So your dad just said, I'm gonna 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.280 buy you a job. I guess, keep her busy, keep 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.600 mom happy, you know, happy wife, happy life. I worked 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.200 there for a little bit. You had to make the 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.799 froth yourself and everything. It's all about that high quality, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.440 like small, bubble thick, peaky foam. Baby. They would come 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.440 in and they'd be like, can I get a vanilla cappuccino? 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.680 And I was like sure, And if I was feeling really, 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.520 you know, frisky, that's what I would say. I'd make 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.399 them their vanilla capuccino and they'd get it and they'd 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.639 pick it up and they'd be like, oh, why is 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.040 this a light. I'm like, well, you ordered a cappuccino 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.040 which is mostly foam. Did you want a latte? And 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.280 they're like yeah, And I just knew that they wanted 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.480 like gas station vanilla cappuccino, Like when you push the button, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:49.160 I can be such a dick. How long did you 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.600 work there? I've worked there for you a couple of years, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.760 I'm sure. Like I feel like it was probably around 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.800 like two thousand one ish. Your dad bought that. But 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.360 that was just passionate. That was like something just a mom. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.840 They're just very entrepreneurial, so I guess that was kind 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.560 of for mom. But also it's just you know, a 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:14.240 potential money maker. Well, it's really good money if you sell. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.599 I don't know what Jaba charges. There's a lot of 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.839 them actually outside New York, but like if you tried 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.280 two bucks for a cup of coffee, I think it 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.800 costs twelve cents for six ounces something like that. But 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.880 it's a very very good profit margin. That's why Starbucks 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.239 does so well. They sure do. And then your dad 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.520 he was in the glass business. Yeah, what kind of glass? 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.960 Explained glass? He was a glazer. So he put in 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:44.880 like commercial windows, so nothing over like three stories, but 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.880 he put in like storefronts and stuff like that. When 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.239 we were really young. He worked for a company called, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.960 I think Cardinal Glass. Oh, I know a Cardinal Glass. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.159 That's a big company. Oh, it's huge. It's he makes 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.360 all those thick glass is like almost litting ut Libby, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.599 but like that kind of glass. It's a she's a 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.840 gigantic company. M hmm. So he worked there for a 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.279 while and then he quit and started his own glass 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.680 company and started in the garage and then it went 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.880 from there and so you know, it got him to 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.440 a point where he was able to, you know, help 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.040 pay for my racing career to get going. Wow. So 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.240 I was reading where you and your sister were sort 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.080 of racing go carts and things like that. But then 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.040 your sister went a different path. Is there a reason 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.560 why she went in a different path or was it 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.560 because you were so much better and so much more driven, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.520 or she just didn't care and you you were like 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.239 autio mind in love with racing. She didn't like getting 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.080 bumped around. I know that. She was like she was 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.080 getting driven over and like literally driven over. Yeah, she 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.520 just didn't like that. She didn't like that roughness of it. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.679 But then there there, I was on the other side 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.760 of things like taking people out and you know, so 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.760 I was totally fine with it, but she just didn't 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.359 like it. She's got a little bit more of a 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.800 mama's side to her. So she has three kids now. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.760 She went into she got her PhD in physical therapy, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.120 so she and she works in pediatrics. So tell me 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:17.360 why England is a place that trains formula style race 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.599 How why England? Why not? Like Arizona racing is just 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.320 really popular in Europe and England, you know, like F 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.320 one's really big over there, and they can drive all 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.720 year long pretty much too, because it doesn't really snow 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.600 over there, so that's part of it. But really I 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.120 guess it ends up boiling down to when I was fourteen, 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.520 I went to the Indie five Dred and I went 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:44.239 to this suite of this you know, wealthy guy and 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.160 in the suite was a guy who was British. And 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:52.239 I sat at the bar drinking my kitty cocktail and 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.080 asking lots of questions about racing, and I guess I 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.000 asked all the right ones. I remember he said I 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.280 could learn more in England in one year, then five 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.640 years in America. Like I just remember that, and I 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.720 was like wow. So anyway, fast forward two years, so 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.040 when I'm sixteen years old and this family, the guy 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.920 that I spoke to that was British worked with this 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.520 family that owned the suite, and they said, we've been 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.880 following your career for the last couple of years and 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.600 we'd really like to sit down and talk to you. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.640 And so my dad and I almost didn't go to 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.800 this meeting because we lived in northern Illinois. They wanted 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.320 us to come down to Indianapolis. It was during May, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.240 during and we almost didn't go, and we decided to go, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.440 and it was like one of those crappy, rainy days, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.400 and anyway, I alos ended up doing the right thing. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.080 So we went down had this meeting and they said 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.040 we want to take it England. That was May of 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.600 that year, and then by that fall, like that winter, 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.160 I went to England for a month or two. I 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.720 did a race out there, like a Winter Series race 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.920 they called it. Anyway, that led to moving back there 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.480 again at the very beginning of the year for the 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.560 full season. And so how old were you? It was 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.760 that lonely? I mean, what was that like? So I 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.040 really didn't go past junie. I didn't really barely go 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.800 to junior year. Yeah, I was there for the first month, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.600 gone for two months, and then back for the last 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.640 month before winter break, and then after winter break I 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.640 never went back. I got my g e D. Actually 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.080 graduated before my my friends did, because I took my 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.640 g e D, which I failed the first time. My goodness, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.080 don't tell anyone that. Well, you just did. I did, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:35.199 and it was I failed in the constitution the Constitution test. Yeah, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:36.880 I don't get it. It's all a bunch of the 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.400 same words. It's probably why I still don't pay attention 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.480 to that stuff. So I had to take it again 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.079 to pass the constitution test, which I think I barely passed. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.120 I only had to get half right in the first place, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.400 and I didn't get that right the first time. And 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.120 I'm pretty sure I just slithered on through the second time. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.400 But yeah, I mean I went over there when I 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.080 was sixteen years old, and I lived with a couple 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.360 of girls, and I slept on the couch underneath stairs, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.840 you know, sort of that whole sort of like struggling artists. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:10.000 But I was a race car driver. For our second course, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.280 I had to ask Annaka all about what it takes 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.760 to become a top performer in her field of racing. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.760 So what kind of work is it to learn how 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.200 to drive a car at that speed? I mean, what's 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.280 the homework is there? Like, Okay, here's the practical. You're 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.320 gonna go out here and spend six hours doing hairpoint turns. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.160 But when you're home, you need to know aery dynamics. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.480 You need to know engine. I don't know whatever. I 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.160 don't either know use a engine whatever. I'm like, I 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.079 don't know whatever is either, So what it is? How 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.160 do you practice? I mean it sounds like a stupid question, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.160 but how do you practice driving at that level? I 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:46.960 mean you go out to a track and you just 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.720 make laps? You know, it's so expensive and compared to 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.840 so many other sports. You need tires and fuel and 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.880 engines and cars and then and who's paying for all this? 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.000 I mean this family that met with me, they paid 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.240 for a lot of it. My parents paid for a 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.400 little bit. I mean they paid for my living, which 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.160 you know, they paid for a little bit of the 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.679 racing at the end, because you know, I got in 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.200 some trouble and so the management people the family didn't 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.800 want to help me anymore. So you've got in some 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.120 trouble I did. Yeah, the word had gotten out that 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.079 I was out too much and partying and having too 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.200 much fun. You know, was I out and having fun 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:28.360 at seventeen eighteen years old? Yeah? Was I having more 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.360 fun than anyone else? No? Was having less fun than 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.120 everyone else? Probably, but it didn't matter. This is the 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.880 whole thing about not giving anyone a reason, Like, no 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.319 matter what phase of your life or no matter what 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.439 it is that you're doing, is not giving anyone a reason. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.720 And you know there was a reason, so you know 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.280 whether or not it was like how they truly felt, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.199 and if they didn't want they didn't want to be 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.319 a part like they believed that and didn't want to 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:55.679 be a part of it, or if they just look, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.719 we're looking for an exit. Either way, well that you 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.880 must you must have done extra ordinary for them. I 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.160 mean they saw something in you. What do you think 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.079 it was? I mean, was it you're a talent or 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.320 you're just like so ambitious and so driven, no pun intended. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.880 I did really well in go karting especially, and you know, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.600 and I'm a girl, so you know, when you're doing 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.160 really well and then you're also unique, that's pretty cool 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.080 for someone who's looking for something unique to be a 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.720 part of. So the family was loved, loved racing, and 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.360 was into racing. So yeah, so what what car did 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.280 you When you first got there, they say, okay, this 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.560 is you're you're gonna start driving X and then you're 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.400 gonna graduate. You know, it's like a horse, you start 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.160 small and you get up to thorbirds. How do they 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.720 teach you how to do that? And what did you 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.360 start with? So I started with go carts and then 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.120 from there I went to formula cars. But the formula 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.160 cars that I drove were without wings. The wings push 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.040 you into the ground aerodynamically, So I did that for 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.680 a couple of years and then after that you would 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.679 go into winged cars. And then at that point when 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.680 I got into that level of driving, I was back 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.920 in the States by that point, and then I came 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.480 back to the States and I did a couple of 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.880 different kinds of cars over here, and then I went 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.679 to IndyCar. So formula what does that mean when you 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.440 say formula? Good question. I guess it just implies open wheel. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.479 Open wheel just literally means that the wheels are exposed 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.199 and open, and a stock car has like it looks 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.680 like a sedan, it looks like closed you can't see 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.000 the tires. Is that cooler or is it? Is it 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.400 harder to drive a formula car than a stock car? 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.319 Or of course it's cooler, but they look so much different. Look, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.760 it's probably a little harder to drive an open wheel 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.200 car because the potentiality of an open wheel car is 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.760 so high because they have down force, so it's beyond 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.840 your sort of fathom ability of what it can do. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.600 And also the faster you go, the more the wings 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.520 are working some degree. So I'd say it's probably Indie 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.400 cars are harder. They also didn't have power steering. Now 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:54.560 I'd say, like racing a stock car, me I mean, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.360 there's there's parts about stock car racing that are harder 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.360 than an Indy car. But I'd say just drive wise, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.600 indy cars harder, Who is the I mean, I have 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.760 like four chefs that I look up to, who like 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.680 your gods, Like these are my three gods that I 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.360 copy every move or I want to copy every move, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.160 or I wish I could copy every move, or I 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.920 just want that I always wanted to be. I always 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.240 say I want to be the first meet, not the 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.880 next somebody else. So I didn't have anyone that I 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.839 wanted to be like really or like role model or 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.160 an idol, I mean one of them. Funny story, I 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.439 really thought that Jacques Villeneuve was like a really great driver. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.640 He raced indie cars, did really well it like second 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.800 his first year, and won the next year at the 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.240 in and then he went to F one and one 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.120 and f one and I just thought, wow, that's so 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.040 cool that someone can do that. And so he really 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.719 was the only one that I kind of used as 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.520 a benchmark of being like someone I thought was really amazing. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.959 So fast forward to two thousand and twelve and I'm 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:01.160 racing in the step right below cup our stock cars. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:06.280 So we were racing in road American in Wisconsin, and 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.360 there's probably I think there's were on the last lap 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.160 and I'm running fourth and he's fifth, and come down 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.559 this really long straightaway to a hard breaking zone downhill 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.360 and he just punts me off the track and crashes me. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.360 And so anyway, I finished the race, and obviously I 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.120 lost a lot of positions, and but he he looks 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.240 like the bad guy right Like everybody afterwards is like, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.160 what a dick? You know, I can't believe you'd do that? 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.960 How you know? He totally took you out? And I thought, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.800 how cool is it actually if I could create any 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:46.760 scenario to look good like, look like the cool, good, responsible, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.840 respectful good driver compared to the only person that I 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.880 ever really looked up to. The next time that we 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.640 raced against each other was in Montreal, and in Montreal 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.680 we qualified inevitably right next to each other. And you 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.440 have to do a ride around on the track to 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.840 wave to the fans before you start the race, and 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.480 we have to ride on this truck together and like 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.120 waved the fans. Not much was said, what are you 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.680 most proud of as far as your thirteen year career? 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.640 Would tell me? Like, I know there's many moments, but 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.320 you're saying yourself, I made a difference, and this is 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.960 what I'm most proud of, and this is how I 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.520 want to be thought of. I mean, I think the 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.760 statistic that I feel most proud of is of the 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.840 small amount of drivers that have led both the Indie 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.400 I think maybe it's it's under fifteen and I like 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.760 that because it's also a generalist sort of title that's 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.000 that's really cool. And of course having one an Indy 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.240 car was awesome. I really wanted to win a NASCAR 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.960 but but didn't, and so that that, as far as 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.800 an accomplishment goes, feels like the best. But but then 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:55.240 from a more broad, sweeping, overall perspective, I'd say it's 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.240 showing people that you can do anything. From the last 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.280 couple of years of my career into the things that 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.680 I transitioned into, it was all about how do I 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.160 know inspire Like I have this platform, I want to 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.120 use it as long as I can, or or I 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.960 really just felt like I have a responsibility to use it. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.960 And then when I retired, all of my businesses are 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.840 rooted in and somehow inspiring people to whether it's be 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.280 healthier or you know, how to be happier, how to 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.920 be self reflective, how to be more present that's kind 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.080 of the purpose of all of the companies that I 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:45.240 have now after racing is to inspire for our third course. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.480 Danek and I talked all things wine. Danek has been 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.960 developing and vine from the ground up and Napper Valley 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.440 for more than ten years. The result is Somnium, her 0:16:54.520 --> 0:17:00.920 delicious and renowned wine brand. You're now renowned wine, you're owner, 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.840 you have your own wine. We're gonna talk about Somnium 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.119 and how Mountain is one of the greatest wine producing 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.680 areas in the world. I mean, it's spectacular. So, I mean, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.560 of all the things that you went from, you did 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.600 why wine well, I mean people ask why I make wine. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.119 I'm like, well, I like to drink it. I mean, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.240 it's really that simple. But when I went to Nappa 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.960 Valley in two thousand and six and had this idea 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.840 to have a winery, it was really just sort of 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:34.479 the romance of the environment. It was you know, the people, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.800 the stories, and until you really do like a private 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.240 wine tasting and hear how it goes, you don't understand 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.840 what goes into that vintage. You don't understand what happened weatherwise, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.119 what what had to be done, how like quick on 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.200 your feet. You have to be whether it be you know, watering, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.240 making changes, how much fruit to drop. Shoot. I mean, 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.919 of course, then there's the beginning, which is picking the varietals, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.280 picking clones, picking the rootstock, which is not my job. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.840 But then after that with the farmers and the winemaker 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.760 and you know, into what day exactly to pick and 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.040 looking at the weather and seeing if there's rain coming. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.679 Are you going to tough it out and brave it 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.720 out and get through the next wave of rain to 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.040 like hopefully let the fruit hang a little longer on 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.480 the vine before you pick it, or do you play 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.520 it safe and get it off. So, I mean, there's 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.199 just so much that goes into it. And then of 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.840 course there's like the really meticulous process of of the 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.960 of the making of the wine after that. I mean, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.160 you know, I've gone to some wineries where they're like 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:42.240 they're barreling stuff that's come into the winery in separate 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.840 barrels based on the time that it came in, not 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.800 even just the block, like the block is broken down 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.439 at times because like everything matters, and so you know, 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.280 there's so many levels of like find you know, being 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.479 more and more and more detailed and high end with 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.399 your pro cests that can be done, and so it 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.640 really makes you value the wine so much more. So. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.160 One of the things that's really important with wine making 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.439 is that there's a story, because there's a lot of 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.560 great wine out there, and even if there isn't great wine, 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.359 people don't always know the difference. In fact, most people 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.000 don't know the difference. So what are you gonna do 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.800 to sell your wine? That's going to set it apart? 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.520 And you have to have a story. And I was like, well, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.840 that's the easy part. Like the easy part is you 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.480 know how much I love wine, and I've traveled lots 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.040 of wine regions all over the world. I've done wine 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.960 tastings in South Africa and Australia and New Zealand obviously 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.239 the States, and you know, I love taking trips for that. 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.720 So I've got a few more on the list, Like obviously, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.879 now that I'm done racing, I want to get to 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.240 Italy and France because I never want to go in 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.280 the winter and I was always working in the summer. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.439 So but then of course Argentina and Chile. I have 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.480 lots of trips still on the docket, but I just 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.679 truly have a passion for it. I love it. I 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.840 love the romance of it, of the process and hearing 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.560 the stories and it's great. What do you grow? What 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.159 are you growing pinot? Are you growing cab franc? What 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.240 is it? I grow mostly Cabernet, a little bit of 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.040 cab fronc, and a little bit of petite or dough Wow, 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.160 so that those three only only red yep, yep. So 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.040 I make two different reds on property. One is the 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:23.040 full fully all estate grapes, and then there's another one 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.480 that we came out with a year and a half ago. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:27.520 It has a red label on it. It's still a 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.200 cab but it's the red label Insomnium. And that one 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.120 is it's still about like a state wine, so it's 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.879 still very high estate wine. But we purchased just a 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.640 little bit of merlot to blend into it, to make 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.840 it a little bit softer and more approachable. And that's 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.919 the first one that we brought in at a lower 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.080 price point from a red perspective. There's still plans to 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.800 sort of on special years, take the cab fronc block 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.400 and make just a barrel out of that and and 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:59.960 make that a really, really higher price point, like exclusive offering. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:04.560 And then we make rose, so we sanna that. So 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.920