WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Exploring McCoy?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hi, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of Cowboys Break. Football is

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<v Speaker 1>one step closer. Time is moving, it is moving fast.

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<v Speaker 1>OTAs have started this week. It started yesterday, but today

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time that the media gets to see

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<v Speaker 1>the whole team come together, where the rookies merge with

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<v Speaker 1>the veterans and see how that looks. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into OTAs and all that, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>clear things up, well, try to clear things up with

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott and what happened with him in the incident

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas, because a lot of people are asking

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here, what's going to happen with him?

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<v Speaker 1>And wanted to get an update from you guys if

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<v Speaker 1>there is an update. Well, we probably made ourselves look

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<v Speaker 1>like fools two years ago trying to predict what was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen with Zeke in a situation like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not arrested, He was not charged with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones made that pretty clear on Monday afternoon after

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<v Speaker 1>that news surfaced the videos on Twitter. I bet you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it if you're listening to this doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>a ton in terms of, you know, legal issues or

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<v Speaker 1>criminal issues. But I would I am hesitant to try

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<v Speaker 1>to predict what the NFL is going to do with

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<v Speaker 1>disciplinary matters at this point after everything that I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in my time doing this. Yeah, I mean, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look that bad. He having the elbow out didn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing that I saw was the elbow

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<v Speaker 1>was out. But really, what I take from this is

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<v Speaker 1>it does it's probably and then you're right about being

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<v Speaker 1>hesitant on this, It's probably going to be okay for Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it helps Crawford at all because I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you look now you're looking at videos to

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<v Speaker 1>compare Tyrone Crawford's, you know, that video is way worse

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<v Speaker 1>and in terms of and it draws more attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys that the team is like, Okay, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>So I you know, I actually talked to Tyrone over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, and he he said he felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>was okay legally, but again, you don't know NFL wise,

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<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, probably concerned by that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for missmissing a game or two or I would agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. So and I just don't think maybe, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the NFL or anybody would be like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>two things are the same, but I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>are in terms of okay, this one it's Zeke, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and here he is again. But I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just enough to to It doesn't look like enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's uh, you know what was said right right?

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<v Speaker 1>Not no. He said something about like you know, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you in my face or something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, you know, looked like a flop to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it really happened like he barely touched him

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<v Speaker 1>with a nailbow and he just fell back. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I will. I mean that the video and

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily tell the whole story, you know, Like I always,

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<v Speaker 1>I hesitate to just have this ridiculously strong take just

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<v Speaker 1>based on forty seconds of video that I saw, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there. Um, it doesn't it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>enough based on what's there. But again it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Goodell is the only guy that has to have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion about this to change that conversation real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what Zeke did last year as far as

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<v Speaker 1>coming back and play, you know, from the suspension and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I don't know about turning things around, but

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<v Speaker 1>but he definitely, you know, had less incidents like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He showed a lot of signs of maturity and he

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<v Speaker 1>still does. But you know, the problem that I have

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<v Speaker 1>is is it's not so much that night, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>next day, Like that's again I'm just, if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a problem with that of him having a

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<v Speaker 1>camp the next day and and treating it like well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it should be like but he made it right,

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<v Speaker 1>he made it in Yeah. But if if the timeline

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<v Speaker 1>of events is as described, he was doing stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas at three am and then was here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Star at the Star doing a camp like less

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<v Speaker 1>than twelve hours later, right, I just you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a great look. But it's like you do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want the night before. You know, he didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do anything wrong. But I agree with Nick

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<v Speaker 1>that it's it's not an awesome look in my opinion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just just from you know, you think about it from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, parents that pay their kids paying good money

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<v Speaker 1>to get to go there. Pro Bowl running back again.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to you don't want to speculate, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of getting a little close for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>but the three am, all I know is that usually

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<v Speaker 1>I found out at three am, I'm probably not ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go to work. Yeah that, and so now by

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<v Speaker 1>twelve whatever and were again. I think everything's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>fine there. But you know, it's a it's a little setback.

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<v Speaker 1>Did one of you guys go to the camp? Not

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<v Speaker 1>that one? I didn't, So we don't really know how

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out with him or how much how he

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<v Speaker 1>acted his participation, you know, because if he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to participate enough, then it doesn't really matter. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>to work with a hangover before. I cannot. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>to the Ranger game last night? Was that or it's

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<v Speaker 1>an a Mariners game? That was? It's a Mariners game

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<v Speaker 1>they lost? I was. It was a very tame night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not hungover right now? Do you think Zeke does

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<v Speaker 1>this more than more than we know? About too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's used to this kind of thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>staying out, coming to work, being a running back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty He's twenty three years old, we know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he likes to have fun, and that's his right. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of these guys do they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they take trips all the time. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>single problem with that, good goodness, gracious, especially not in

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason. I mean, that's what you should be doing

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<v Speaker 1>if you're twenty three and have the type of money

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<v Speaker 1>that pro football players have. Um, and we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time though, the whole fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the situation, what we saw, it's something that people do.

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<v Speaker 1>Young people do that and go through those scenarios instead.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just brings small light to him. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough because you want to be like, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be in those types of situations. It's like we've

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<v Speaker 1>all been there. Yeah, I have been there a million times.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree all of that is is right. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that you had a really big work day the next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's the thing. That's that that's my only

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<v Speaker 1>issue with it. Again, and I you know, you get.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to realize that everyone's got a phone, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's showing. You know, it's if you're gonna wear Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James jerseys like that. I mean, really, who's gonna wear

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<v Speaker 1>a jersey like that? Yeah? Who would ever do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's it sucks. I mean, we had

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<v Speaker 1>the camera on you that day too. The rules are different.

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<v Speaker 1>The rules are different when you're Zeke Elliott, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not necessarily fair to him. But so, what

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<v Speaker 1>were some of the things that Stephen Jones? He really,

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<v Speaker 1>he really didn't say a whole lot. He said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still gathering information, don't. I mean, he's right, which maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should listen to him. He said, it's unfair to

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<v Speaker 1>really comment on it beyond the fact that we're still

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<v Speaker 1>learning about it. This was Monday, so I'd assume they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a pretty clear picture by now. I'm sure Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett'll talked about it later today, Zeke may talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it himself. We'll see the locker room's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>open today. Not sure, it doesn't seem like a huge deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it definitely is kind of a hiccup in what

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<v Speaker 1>had been a very you know, feel good offseason for him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now moving on to OTAs that started yesterday. Obviously this

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<v Speaker 1>is far away from real football and we always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it and it's not that exciting, but the media

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<v Speaker 1>is out there and we get to watch some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that happened there. I wanted to get each

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<v Speaker 1>of your opinion and like, what are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you're looking for today, and like what to

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<v Speaker 1>watch for during this first practice that we'll get to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though you're not above doing it, I'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Plug your article for yesterday. Dave wrote an

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<v Speaker 1>article about five things to to really watch, so let

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<v Speaker 1>me I was kind of struggling by the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, though, Like the time I

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<v Speaker 1>got to number five, I was like, ah, just because

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably because you know what she just said. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's not right real like you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to see if Connor McGovern could bloak.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want Yeah, oh, I could write twenty things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to try to be as honest as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>What was what was one number one for me was

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<v Speaker 1>just that this will be the first chance we get

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<v Speaker 1>to see the offense under Kellen Moore and like air

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<v Speaker 1>quotes big time because not really, but I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>still you know, it's stuff that he's installing and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna use under him. I don't expect to

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<v Speaker 1>see anything, you know, juicy, but it's still get some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of look at like what he's trying to install

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<v Speaker 1>on what they're trying to look Yeah for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was on your list too, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to see how we how we line up

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<v Speaker 1>on offense, the offensive line, yeah, first and second teams.

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<v Speaker 1>You just what are we starting with here? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>where's Frederick? Is he right there at the center spot?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know no issues there? Where's McGovern, Where's Suaphila

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<v Speaker 1>Looney those guys like that? Just just how it all

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<v Speaker 1>shakes out to start with, and then you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>all subject to change, especially with injuries and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to kind of see where they where

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<v Speaker 1>they have these guys. That was my number that was

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<v Speaker 1>my number four, I think. I mean, Frederick is expected

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<v Speaker 1>to be limited, so you know, don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see of him. McGovern can play center and I

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<v Speaker 1>expect them to work him there. It's some a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the In the next month, um Lyle Collins

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<v Speaker 1>had a surgery that he's still coming back from, so

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<v Speaker 1>that should be an opportunity for Cam Fleming. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it looks based which we you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we work here, we didn't get to go to

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's Ota, but based on photos and stuff, it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he was the first string left guard. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about that. Yeah, Connor was, um, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about that. Yeah, I know that name. They

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<v Speaker 1>do this stuff on purpose, is like they get as

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<v Speaker 1>many similar names as they can. Um, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I don't know if that'll happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>there should be some shifting and some different stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>can try out. That should be fun there. Um. One

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<v Speaker 1>other one for me is again you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of it, um just you know about

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<v Speaker 1>them tackling or anything like that. But I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of see that Sean Lee you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the sam position. You know, see what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen there. If he's gonna be I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he's going to be the starting strong side linebacker. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You can definitely tell in the offseason that he has

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<v Speaker 1>changed his his physique a little bit. His upper body

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<v Speaker 1>looks very noticeable that he is he's gotten bigger there um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm anxious to see how how that plays out

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<v Speaker 1>and if he can play that position. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get those three linebackers on the field. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they say they don't play bass a lot, but they

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<v Speaker 1>might play it more of Sean Lee's there. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to talk about this injury wise because I no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's but people mention it all the time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>injuries and how these let's say hamstring injuries happen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot during this time, and what he could possibly mean

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<v Speaker 1>for a guy like Sean Lee who is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get back it is known his past record of injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>What if something like that happens during this time. See,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I think that it's a real interesting move.

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<v Speaker 1>They typically the strong side linebacker plays about twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the snaps, and the way the system is now,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's Damien Wilson or god give me some other names,

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe oh geez, maybe Hitchens Wilbur did it for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while. I mean it's been Damien for the

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<v Speaker 1>last like four years and he doesn't play a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot so and no Taco. So if it's so, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, you know, so if he's not out there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's something that they're used to playing with. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of a good situation. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>win win, Like if he's out there and he's healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>they can do some different things. If not, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be much different than what they've done in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, which that also speaks you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>exciting because they're back on the field, but it's may

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll probably limit what a lot of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>do for that very reason is you know, not to

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<v Speaker 1>set them back to the point where they might not

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for training camp. That's another thing is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect to see a lot of DeMarcus Lawrence. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Kent now you can do the taco drop

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<v Speaker 1>because he's probably not going to do a lot there

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<v Speaker 1>we go. He just had an ankle surgery. So I

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<v Speaker 1>expect to see a lot of young guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, Connor McGovern should get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>work at Center if Travis Frederick is limited. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think there should be some cool opportunities there for some rookies.

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey actually wrote an article about nine nine guys that

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<v Speaker 1>were on us have surgeries that aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>participate rating here. I didn't really you know, you hear

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<v Speaker 1>one or two here and you think, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought four to five. And then you really break

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<v Speaker 1>it down to the Cindric Wilsons and all that I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins had something done. I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these happened a while ago. But again, you know, why

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<v Speaker 1>risk anything. Antoine Woods had a shoulder surgery. Byron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to see Byron. So there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for some of your young corners right there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see Woods. Antoine Woods. I would expect so because

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<v Speaker 1>he had his surgery in January. And that's why what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about that for me is it's really the same

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<v Speaker 1>surgery as what DeMarcus Lawrence had, and so you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see when he came back and he actually was

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate to have it right seasons over? Is it? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>where's this going to play? Because you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>that first game against the Giants and you think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we talked about this last week who from the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line. Do you are you sure is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there? I mean, do you know d Law will

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<v Speaker 1>be there? Maybe you, Randy Gregory. There's no way you

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<v Speaker 1>can even predict that. And all signs would pointed probably not,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Crawford, probably not. Maybe. So you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end, that's three three guys there. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Jelks and those guys you know, Joe Jackson, Oran's Armstrong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's although don't every year. Don't forget Quinn though,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, oh yeah, I mean Robert Quinn for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just saying, and this team has gotten really

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<v Speaker 1>good at saying, okay, well these players will play Week

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<v Speaker 1>one because we have a defensive starter that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be suspended. I mean, what are we at six years

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<v Speaker 1>in a row? Now? Maybe? Yeah, I mean maybe yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's circul to the Rolando mcclean's and d Law,

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<v Speaker 1>David Irving, Gregory long list Gregory, uh Gregory, you know right,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Carr, Hey, hey, don't start listing never missed games. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting. I mean usually when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hear that. I just kind of a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot you're not wearing your head I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>could hear a little bit. Car Clayborne and Scandrid Nice

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere are those headphones? Well they really go to that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting on Derek to come in. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, it's really interesting because at first your initial

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<v Speaker 1>thought is to get kind of freaked out when you

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<v Speaker 1>see this this type of list of injured guys and

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<v Speaker 1>are recovering and all that stuff. But when what that

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<v Speaker 1>does it allows to create opportunities for these other guys

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<v Speaker 1>and allows the Cowboys to prepare this early on for

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<v Speaker 1>when the season starts and kind of figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>the backup guys will be and earned the spot. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it starts, it starts this month. Although

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again what I don't Why do I always

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for sounding like a wet blanket, like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. But I just remember last year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>g hot Ward looked great and he was like the

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<v Speaker 1>starting He was a starter on the d line because

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<v Speaker 1>Malie Collins was out out and people were real high

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and it clearly didn't work out. Dayton Jones

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<v Speaker 1>was another one and didn't play a game in the

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<v Speaker 1>But you know it's going to change big time between

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<v Speaker 1>we found out not too long ago that the Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>released defensive tackle Jural McCoy, and I wanted to check

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<v Speaker 1>in with you guys if you thought that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have any interest in bringing him back, especially after with

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<v Speaker 1>this cause all day injuries and scenarios here. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Adam Schefter from NFL or where is

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Schefter? Sorry? He um listed the Cowboys as some

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<v Speaker 1>potential teams that he would be you know, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be has some interest there. I don't think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have come out and said that they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Cowboys haven't said there's any interest. We'll see today.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you just talking to some people

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<v Speaker 1>that there would be Tristan Hill. They drafted him and

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<v Speaker 1>they have the money for it. But I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't see that as a as a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>they would they would turn in here, because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>they know they have some young guys that they liked there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the focus would be on just so

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<v Speaker 1>many other players that you did you have to sign.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to get a big deal, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just see there would probably be teams

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<v Speaker 1>with more money, with maybe a better fit for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's totally conceivable that they could get out bid.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a six time pro bowler. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just from being around here, it doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a whole lot of interest. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>get it. I think this is the rare example of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that would be Taylor made to go after.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thirty one years old. He's had some injury issues

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<v Speaker 1>that should keep his price relatively low. Tristan Hill is

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<v Speaker 1>the only defensive tackle of the significance on this team

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<v Speaker 1>that's under contract beyond this season. And I know they

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<v Speaker 1>feel when they always feel good about their guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they love to say that, but like, which of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that's on this team is definitively better than

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<v Speaker 1>a six time pro bowler? Right now? Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this question, Dave. When you say go after are

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<v Speaker 1>you are you willing to go go in on a

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<v Speaker 1>multi year deal for significant money or when you say

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<v Speaker 1>go after is it if it falls to you, you

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<v Speaker 1>make it known to him and his agent. Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>interested talking, but it's only if the deal works that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a one year for relatively little money. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to sign him for more than two years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't want to pay him more than like

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<v Speaker 1>even like ten sounds like a lot like somewhere if

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to sign between you know, six and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, the rap woars and the chefters

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<v Speaker 1>of the world have made it known like he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to play for a contender. He wants to play for

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<v Speaker 1>a team that can get to the playoffs. He's never

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<v Speaker 1>been in the playoffs in nine years in Tampa, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's conceivable. And from Oklahoma City, by the way, grew

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<v Speaker 1>up a cowhos Fane went to OU. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reasons why it sounds plausible that

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<v Speaker 1>he might be willing to sign here on a fair deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Cowboys are interested. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that that would happen, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>try to make it happen if I were them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with you. This is a question

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<v Speaker 1>of will they or should they? I think Nick was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear, and I think that's everything that all of

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<v Speaker 1>us have heard is is it doesn't look like they

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<v Speaker 1>want to. But when you talk about it from a

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint of should they, I kind of agree with Dave

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<v Speaker 1>that this is an opportunity if it should fall to you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get the money right and you can get

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<v Speaker 1>him for a year, two years, then to me, he

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<v Speaker 1>is better than right now. He is better as a

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<v Speaker 1>three technique than anybody you have on your team. And

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a fan put this out there. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure you may know the ramifications of this, but you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a guy like Tyrone Crawford and the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money that he makes, would there be some relief

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to release him to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sign a guy like that that would replace at least

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<v Speaker 1>the role defensive tackle. Now there is the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>is Crawford more of a defense to end yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>it currently sits, because they got a lot of defensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackles on this team defensive ends. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they got enough to start to see they like having

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like that can switch back, yeah, versatile, so

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrone can provide that, and he's been here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they have enough ends. I don't think that they

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<v Speaker 1>have enough ins that we just talked about that they

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<v Speaker 1>can count on for Week one, right, and that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the issue. But yeah, I think they have plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>defensive ends and I don't know if they have enough

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<v Speaker 1>tackles there, but they don't have a lot of tackles

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<v Speaker 1>that are under contract, and which you know, in a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect world, you would sign McCoy to a one year deal,

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>which that doesn't really alleviate the problem of not having

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>any guys under contract. But he's a two time All Pro.

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He's never had less than six sacks in a season

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>at defensive tackle. How many big number, how many guys,

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>how many guys on this team can say they've had

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>six sacks in a season. Yeah, and it's like Quinn

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence and but I don't think anybody else draft in

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill, and is should be the reason that you

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.160
<v Speaker 1>would consider it more than a reason that you wouldn't.

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's a young guy that that is you know, he's

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>he's still he's gonna be raw, obviously, and he's gonna

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>learn from Marinelli and Lee Unlett. That's great, But in

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 1>the trenches they're getting to learn from a guy like

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>like Gerald McCoy. I think that would that would be

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>even better. Is that a position where you would expect

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>a quick impact that he could learn? You know, boy, no, no,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Tristan about quick impact? Um, if he's if he is

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the badass they make him out to be. It's mean

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Malie Collins stepped in and there was a reason why

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>they picked him where they picked him. If this was

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy that was picked in the top ten a

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle, then yes, you would expect that he would

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>immediately step in. Defensive tackle is not a position where

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't immediately step in and give you immediate production.

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna there's a reason why the second round he's

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna produce if he can. If he and this is

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>why I think if you signed someone like a McCoy,

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>he would produce. Tristan Hill would produce even more because

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>if you ask him to play all these snaps in

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>there and he has to play against the run time

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in and time out, he's gonna he's gonna have some problem.

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>If he can come in on Nickel situations and get

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.679
<v Speaker 1>over that center and rush him, that's where he really

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to be effective right away. So I think

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the less he has to play three downs, I think

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that the better he can be. And you get some

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>guys in here like that, but he might be better

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>than you're Antoine Woods and maybe even Malie Collins. So

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not making more sense the more we keep talking

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>about it. I think that's the thing. I think everybody

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that I've at least heard talk about it, I think

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. I just don't think I think the

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are at least what I think. I think they're

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of too far down the road. Is in their

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>own opinions. They feel like they've already gotten that position solidified.

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 1>They feel like they have quality players at the defensive

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>tackle position, and I just don't think they're necessarily looking now.

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean this couldn't get fluid. If he's sitting

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>out on the market, come training camp and nobody's willing

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to pay him, and the Cowboys and say, well, this

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>guy's just sitting out there, we can get a really

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>favorable deal. I know they're opportunistic, right, I just think

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that's some point, at some point in a span of

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 1>three to four years, I mean, every every few years.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>It's good to sit there in fold hands every now

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and again and play you know, little pots here, but

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone once in a while you just want to push

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>him in, push all the chips in in the middle,

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>and say, look, I'm all in. I'm all in on

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>this team on this year. I got a great young team,

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy could fit. Got offensive line that's really good,

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I got great skill players. Let's go get this thing.

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, what would be the problem

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>with doing that. Let's assume let's assume what Dave said.

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's assume if they end up paying him, they want

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>to do it. They're gonna be willing to pay him

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>nine million over a year or two years or whatever.

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Does that affect their ability to sign some of these

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>longer term deals that they are talking about right now,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>particularly DAK where you're talking million plus back. In fact,

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>if they sign those deals, it would be easier to

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>get a deal like McCoy because those first couple of

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>years aren't going to be as as I mean, you

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>can actually lower some of the base salaries. I don't

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>know about the thirty I mean, I don't know about

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>that with DAK because there's really no way to structure

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it mathematically, you can't do it with that, but you

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 1>can certainly do it with him because he right now

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he's making what less than a million, right he's making

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>two millions because he readjusted his two million. There's no

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>way to do this thing where he's gonna average thirty

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>million a year and the I mean, but isn't that

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>the point? Though? If if now all of a sudden,

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go from one million to thirty million, do

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you have the room to be able to do that?

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Even if even you do, you do and Cooper's deal,

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you need to get Cooper's deal done. You

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>can Looper Cooper's accounting for fourteen million. You could lower

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that to like you know, you could lower his cap

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 1>hit to like six six and even though and they

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>have had me pay for it right there, they have

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty million in space right now. And for the record, like,

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.199
<v Speaker 1>even if they were to sign Gerald McCoy, I wouldn't

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>advocate cutting Tyrone Crawford. I mean, he he plays an end.

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Keep him, he's a captain. You can worry about that

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>next year. Next year is a much better time to

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>release him. I think you could. I think you would

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>save eight or nine million next year. This year, I think,

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>if I look right, I think this year is more

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of a wash. You don't get anything. It's about the

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>same to keep him, to cut him. And by the way,

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't saying you cut him. I know. I saw

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that on Twitter and it made me think, is that

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>a is that? Would that be a swap in this

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>instance to where what you get back would be what

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you pay out? And it didn't, you know, I didn't

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>really know the answer. I don't know if that would

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>be a better fit for you. I mean, I really don't.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds these six time pro bowler. I

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's a better fit just because of the

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the versatility, right, versatility what he brings for the team

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and all that, which I agree with you. The thing

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>is signing a guy like that, like I don't even

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>think of it as going all in because I think

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong. I mean, he might sign somewhere

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for forty million next week, and if that's the case,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, never mind, Like yeah, same same thing

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>with Earl Thomas. When you when you show me the

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>price tag and it's going that high, I'm out. But

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>assuming you could get this guy on unreasonable deal. It's

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>little risk with high reward. And again, these contracts are

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna push you up against the caps soon. Bobby Wagner's

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to break the linebacker market. Jalen Smith sees every

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>bit of that coming his way. You're gonna you are

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>eventually gonna be hard up against the cap. You are

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.719
<v Speaker 1>not right now, so why not try to maximize the

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>next season or two where you can still get away

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>with it? Well, if if my understanding is correct, you

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>can actually roll over salary cap money. So if they're

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>at it doesn't mean you have to just go ahead

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and spend it this year. That means if you don't

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>spend it this year, you actually have it for those futures.

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>But see, but I mean you do you're right. But

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>if you could get a six time pro bowler on

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a manageable salary on a team that looks pretty good,

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it sounds it sounds smart to me. I win on

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a one year deal. I mean, you're kind of you're

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of going in already. Yeah, I would maybe their

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>go in player for this year. Yeah, we've already done that.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>We're not willing to try for Quinn And they gave

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>a pretty decent amount of ring of Randall cop The

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Rams never stopped. You know, the Rams just got Sue

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and Donald of course, and then you know they kept

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>adding guys going bad guy, but I mean they just

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>kept adding guy. It helped there were a couple of

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>plays away from winning a Super Bowl. Yeah, you like

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, like, even if even if they even if

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they extend Dak, Let's say they extend Dak and Amari

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>this year, they will still have one to two seasons

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>before those hits really start to affect their cap because

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we Amario'll lower it and Dak's big numbers won't kick

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in for a year or two. So you'll have a

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>short window where you can still add talent to this

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>roster without really having to worry about you know, Jalen

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't need a new deal till twenty twenty one, YadA, YadA, YadA.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd say try to maximize this short little window you

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>have before these huge contracts start coming home. And by

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the way, in twenty twenty one, I think is the

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>year that they're going to have to have a new CBA.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>So who knows what the CAP's gonna look like, how

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>much money is gonna be guaranteed, like they'll have to

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>they'll have to give to players. It may change everything economically,

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>so so that there's a lot that would be a

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>part of that. I don't think they're gonna do it,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think they should. I feel like they would though,

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>because looked at what they have done so far. They

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>have given so much importance during this offseason to the

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>whole defense. During free agency, during the draft, they used

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of their draft picks just on defense. So

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>clearly they're trying to rebuild and reinforce and build on

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>what they already had last year, which was pretty good.

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think they're they're deciding to make that final

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>push and turn it over to hopefully an elite defense.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what The longer he gets the air, the

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>longer he goes unsigned, the better it is probably for

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your hopes of it happening, because it means that the

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.719
<v Speaker 1>price he wants probably isn't out there. And literally twelve

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hours after the Bucks cut him, they signed Sue. And

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe like his deal is worth up to ten million,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>which means that's incentive based. So if you can sign

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>in Dominican Sue for seven to eight then I would

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>think McCoy is probably similar because they're same age range.

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I think at this point in my opinion, I think

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>McCoy's a better player than Sue personally, but I'm not

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>going to tend to have watched tape of them. I

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>just know that they're both pretty good. I Sue, to

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>me is the class Like it's so obvious. Sue turned

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it on in the playoffs last year, like he just

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>got plays when he wants to. Yeah, he went through

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the motions until they got to the playoffs and then

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wait, I'm actually still really good, which

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and I may need to get a new contract. Everything

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard about Gerald McCoy is that he's one

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of the highest character players in the NFL. So I

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think maybe what I'm talking about that I would

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I would have liked to get sued here because this

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>whole turn it on, turn it off thing. If Rod

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Marinelli is is the guy that everyone says he is

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and in the way he coaches and we see the

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>way he coaches, he'll keep it on, he'll turn it off.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But I also think also think that Rod Marinelli wants

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>guys that showed that propensity at least the things I've

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>heard about him, even during the draft process. He particularly

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>looks for guys who are high motor guys and actually

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>shuns guys that are not motor. So my thought would

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>be to him, Yeah, my thought would be he would

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>probably be the one of the people to say we

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need Sue. I think Rod would shut that down immediately, yeah,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>which I mean because and for other reasons too. He

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>thinks Tristan Hills that underdog type guy. He likes those guys.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>He does because it makes him look better if he

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>can coach him up. You can't coach up Sue. I mean,

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the like you probably can't, especially at

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>this point in his career. I'm not saying he can't

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>coach him up. What I'm saying, if if he has

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>this great year, I don't think anyone's gonna be patting

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Rod on the back. And that's what he wants, That's

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>what all coaches want. I don't know about that, because

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the narrative around Sue right now

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>is he's a guy that by for the most part,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>did not play great throughout the season last year, played

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>well in the playoffs, did not play great. So if

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Rod could get him to play with a high motor

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>at this point in his career. I think that would

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>be a pat on the back for us. So Gerald McCoy,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>same thing is that gonna be? Is that gonna fit

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>into the I just think did he call him? I

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>forgot the orphans orphans that I'm not calling him that anymore.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Even if they don't sign Gerald. Now, they got played,

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>they put too much. Yeah, they got players, line, they

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>got players. But I think I think it would make

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the team better. And I agree there's nobody that you

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>would have to cut Gerald McCoy for that you just

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>can't bear to part ways with. Like I would throw

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>him in there and be like, you know, we're probably

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep four defensive tackles. So that's two of them

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>right there. This good luck to the rest of they.

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll find them. There's two other roster respects, No, just

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Nil is going to be here. Hill will be here

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and if he were to sign, McCoy will be here.

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And the other guys can figure it out. Who else

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>did Collins? Woods? Woods and Collins probably gonna be one

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>techniques then Colin probably you know, um Hyder figured out Coton,

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Covington figured out have fun. That's what I'm trying to bring.

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>We're trying to increase the level of competition, and you

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>would have just done that. I agree a bit. Yeah,

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>still don't think they'll do it. Having said all of that,

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 1>we spent a whole segment in now I don't think

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do it. Well, we'll see what happens here.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But now switching up things a little bit, well, not really,

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>let's stay on defense. Jordan Lewis. It's a guy that

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I've we've talked about and how he has become kind

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of like the black sheep of the group and and

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>just not really being asked involved just because of his

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>size and what christ Shart wants. I saw an interesting

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>question from a fan about the possibility or thought of

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>moving Jordan Lewis to the safety position and maybe trying

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>him out there to where he can actually be on

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the field and do something for the Cowboys, you know,

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a skill set wise, I still think he's a better

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>cover guy. You've never shown the ability to be a

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:38.919
<v Speaker 1>like a real physical player. Not that those guys are,

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the safety position or lightening people up really,

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, I just think he's a he is

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a corner. I think that's a skill set all the way.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>M Is he a corner here? Maybe? Maybe not, but

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>you know there's a place for him. I mean, there

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>really is a place for him here, and they showed

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it last year. I mean kind of a spot duty.

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think there's okay to have a preference,

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think. I don't know if he's the

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>guy that's getting pushed out of the door, like I mean,

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you say that, but I mean I haven't really seen

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that yet. Yeah, And honestly, I mean he's not better

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>than Cheeto or Bryan Jones. So he's the third quarter right, Yeah.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think last year, in my opinion, if you look,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>if you want to find yourself, especially in the secondary,

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>find yourself an MVP of that Saints game, he was it.

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean the way that they used him on Kamara

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the backfield, I thought was really really smart.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>And having that kind of depth allows you to do that.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Some teams don't have that kind of depth where they

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>could use a corner to be able to cover a

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>running back coming out of the backfield, but they had

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that depth. So I think he's valuable to this team

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and Now when it times comes down first contract, that's

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a whole different ball game. They will figure out whether

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>they want to keep him or not, and whether he

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>wants to stay here or not. But the fact of

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the matter is, I think he still is a valuable

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a valuable piece in that second well from what we

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>saw last year. But when you start, you know, seeing

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the corners that were brought in by Chris Rashard basically

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in his preferences, and when you see that whole group,

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>then the question begins to rise even more to where, okay,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>where does that leave Jordan Lewis and what do you

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>do with him? What you said is going to be

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>put to the test, and it'll be fascinating because we're

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to see Byron Jones until September. I won't

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if he misses a game. That's just me.

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>That's conjecture for the record, But I won't be surprised.

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>So who's going to get those reps of training camp?

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Cheeto will? What do you do with Anthony Brown? What

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>about these gigantic corners that Amber just mentioned that they

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>brought in. Where does Jordan Lewis fit in that new

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>pecking order? Because you would think that a three year

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>vet who's got starting experience would be pretty high up there.

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But if he's not getting reps outside over the likes

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of Mike Jackson, what does that say? Yeah, No, you're

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you're right about that. And the interesting thing too, is is,

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you start looking at down the road and

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about corners, corners that are going

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to be on this roster next year. You know it's

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones gonna be on the team next year. What

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>about Anthony Brown? Anthony Brown, I have a hard time

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking he will be, So you know, Jordan would have

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that extra year. I just don't think there's any reason

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to just kind of fade him out. Now you get

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to the end of the training camp and someone wants

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to throw a fourth round pick at you to get him. Maybe, yeah,

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>depends on how Jackson and who else are we talking

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.439
<v Speaker 1>about these gigantic corner I mean, Mike Jackson, Chris West.

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But that's also my point on all of that is, Yeah,

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>they brought in all these guys, but it wasn't a

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>priority because most of those guys were either late picks

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>or undrafted guys. Yeah, so they're bringing in guys because

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of what you said, like they don't have future right

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:42.919
<v Speaker 1>now a corner A lot of the guys are gonna

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>be up on their contracts over the next couple of years.

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But then you don't know what zury shard turns to

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>mean too. Yeah, I get that, but I'll believe it

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.439
<v Speaker 1>when I see it. But you're gonna take an undrafted

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>free agent cornerback and this year he's gonna be a

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 1>guy that's gonna be playing over Jordan Lewis. Maybe it happens.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Necessarily, I'm not buying necessarily. A Lumba

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is a nice player. He showed a little something at

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>training camp last year. He's a practice squad guy. So

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just think you just have to let's

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>just let's let's pump the brakes a little bit on

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that for you know, just for the what's gonna happen

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this year? Maybe in the future, Well, what's gonna happen

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.439
<v Speaker 1>this year? It wasn't a priority. If Westy makes the team,

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>then Chris Richard is even a better coach than I

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>would even give him credit for it. And the thing

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>about it, and there's nothing against Westy, but he there's

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a reason why he didn't get drafted. I mean, six's four,

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't have the fluid movement hips that you

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 1>would look for in a corner. Why haven't they moved

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>him to safety? If there's a reason for all that.

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:42.439
<v Speaker 1>He even says why he's not a receiver. He says

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>he can't catch. He said it. I mean, so if

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.959
<v Speaker 1>he can turn him into a guy that can play

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>corner in this league, that that will be phenomenal. That

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really an uphill battle for him. He looks great. Oh,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>look at Westy, but you know he should be playing

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>safety or another position typically, So we'll see if he

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>can he can make it. But the guy, I think

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you still need to know how to catch playing that

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>well position, you know, but if you knocked balls down,

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you get paid. Yeah, to answer to answer the question,

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>because we didn't really like Jordan. Jordan's probably like six fifteen,

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty pounds underweight for what you would want a safety

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.479
<v Speaker 1>to be at, Like he's like one eighty. His height

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily a problem, but I think his weight is,

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>especially because what we keep saying they want is a

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>box safety and Jordan like he's a tough dude. That's

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>not what I'm saying. But I just don't know if

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>he would hold up doing that, you know, week after week.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I would be surprised if they tried to do that.

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>What I would I mean really like to see out

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>of him. And maybe this is something he's working on,

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>because if he can be the slot corner, if he

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>can really work that in there, that's such a big position.

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think, um, Christopher Shard wants a slot guy.

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how big you are on the outside,

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that's one thing, but on the inside you can cover.

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I've that's maybe I'm disillusioned because I thought that's what

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>he would be. Like I thought he would be the

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>number three corner last year and he wasn't his And

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was great against the Saints. It was

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>eight snaps. His participation dropped from seventy five percent in

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen to eighteen percent, and that was probably a

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>jump in that game versus a lot of games. Play

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of games this season. He didn't get

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>on the field. I mean, the numbers are stark, and like,

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's like this anti Jordan Lewis agenda,

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Like he's a great dude. I think everybody likes him.

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Chris Rashard even said, you know, he's a good player.

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>We've just got these guys above him. But if you

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>can't find a use for him, it would And I

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're trying to push him out the door,

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.479
<v Speaker 1>but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to find

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>something for him in the future and like a trade

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Roster gets. I will send you to

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>elaborate on that. Yeah, you meant another team, Yeah, if

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.879
<v Speaker 1>you know somebody else's death. I mean the Cardinals sent

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Ben abin Wickery here two years ago. I could see,

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you know something similar. I think one of the issues

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's keeping him from playing more is on

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>special teams. He's really not He hasn't been a good

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>special teams player. And from what I would have been told,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>strength is a problem there. Strength just to go in

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>safety's out of the fALS double team as a gunner

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, being a

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>safety would be tough. And you know, going back to

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>what you said about Byron Jones this training camp, by

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>suspicion is that means that Jordan's probably gonna be day

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>one a camp, a starting cornerback on this team. So

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>if that's the case, he's gonna you don't think so,

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would be shocked. If I would

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>be shocked, and what I mean by that as one

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of the top three, I would be shocked if he's

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>not out there starting day one of training camp getting

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>reps with the first team defense at least when they're

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in nickel And if that's the case. If that's the case,

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>then I would bet you he would be the starting

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>slot with Anthony Brown outside. So that being said, that

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>being said, I think he's gonna have every opportunity to

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to move the doubters wrong. So let's see

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>what he can do. If you can get out there

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and show him something. Maybe Christian Shard says, you know,

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy's got a little more than I thought he had.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't, then you're right. Maybe at some point

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>they they didn't consider the fact that, especially one of

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>those young guys steps up. Maybe they consider the fact

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't need him one hundred percent, right, Because if

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you start training camp on the first day and Mike

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Jackson or a Lumba, a Lumba is getting more snaps

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>than we know the writings on the wall, like okay,

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>he's gone, like he won't be here. Last year on

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>training CAM, I cannot remember very well. I didn't really

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>stand out in my opinion. Yeah, I just remember, barely

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>remember anything. I just remember being like, okay, today, they'll

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 1>give him some reps. Today, they'll give him some reps.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>And like I, you know, I sympathize with fans. They

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>were asking about it, and I was curious about it.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's not how the dominoes fell. But I'm interested

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to see when they get to camp. I really believe

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he'll be one of the top three. If he's not.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, Nicko, Man, it's not looking good for him,

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>not for him, but it would be good for somebody else. Yeah.

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>How you guys say the writing is on the wall, Yes, exactly,

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>how we see. That's not nice. It's not there yet. Sorry,

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>started writing, were right on the wall, paint on the wall.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>We write on the wall here. All right, Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go, guys, because coach Garrett. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he has to get on there and do a

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. I guess. So we'll see if he says

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting things. Maybe he will. He will all right,

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