Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hi, I'm Phil Donahue and I'm Marlowe Thomas, and
Speaker 1: we're going on a series of double dates to find
Speaker 1: out what makes a marriage last. Some couples you feel
Speaker 1: like you could just sit around the table with forever.
Speaker 1: Case in point, Rob and Michelle Reiner interesting, smart, and
Speaker 1: very very funny. We visited Robin Michelle at their stunning
Speaker 1: New England type home in Brentwood, California, where they've lived
Speaker 1: for close to thirty years. Before them, it was owned
Speaker 1: by Norman Lear, whose series All in the Family was
Speaker 1: Rob's first real acting vehicle, and before that, Henry Fond
Speaker 1: lived there. His beautiful rose garden still flowers there each year.
Speaker 1: Rob's whole life is so steeped in classic Hollywood it
Speaker 1: would have been impossible for me not to ask about
Speaker 1: his famous father, Carl and his mom Mastelle. Your folks
Speaker 1: were married for a long time, Yes, almost sixty five years.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, so that has to have an
Speaker 1: influence on well, yeah, I mean, my mother said, And
Speaker 1: this was when they had their sixtieth anniversary and they
Speaker 1: asked her what the secret was, and she said, find
Speaker 1: someone who can stand you, not somebody you can put
Speaker 1: up with somebody who can put up with you. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the key when you see a role
Speaker 1: model them. And I remember your parents very well. They
Speaker 1: were in our house a lot and you and your
Speaker 1: father loved your mother singing and he supported it. Him.
Speaker 1: He was he was like her roadie. He really would
Speaker 1: set up the music stand. He would you invite the friends.
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like our manage. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we went and it was it was adorable. I just
Speaker 1: had to love him for it. Yeah. And what about
Speaker 1: your family? Well, your parents, did you have come from
Speaker 1: a strong marriage? You know, but we're marriage really Well,
Speaker 1: my mother was in Auschwitz and lost her entire family
Speaker 1: and moved to the States, to Oklahoma of all places,
Speaker 1: and then moved to New York and met my father.
Speaker 1: They got married very very quickly, and it was not
Speaker 1: a good marriage. So well, she must have had a
Speaker 1: lot of scars. Yeah, I mean, my god, but not
Speaker 1: not good role models. Yeah, and this is this your
Speaker 1: first marriage? Yeah, so how did you get the courage
Speaker 1: to do it? Um? The beginning didn't start around so
Speaker 1: well because we were we were going to meet each
Speaker 1: other and then it didn't happen. We have a good
Speaker 1: story though of how it's a really good story. Well
Speaker 1: because I, like I said, I've been single for ten
Speaker 1: years and making a complete and utter mess of my
Speaker 1: romantic life in and out of different relationships. And that
Speaker 1: really became the basis for one Harry Matzali was the
Speaker 1: whole idea of men and women and how do you know,
Speaker 1: how do they get together in all this? And we're
Speaker 1: in pre production and Barry Snenfeld was sitting there with
Speaker 1: me and I look at this copy of Premier magazine
Speaker 1: that's sitting on the table there, and there's a picture
Speaker 1: on the cover of Michelle Pfeiffer, And I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I heard she's getting divorced. You know, I had had
Speaker 1: lunch with her like six months earlier on a professional thing,
Speaker 1: nothing and yeah, lunch. And I said, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll give her a call. I don't you know, I'm
Speaker 1: like grasping at straws. I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: I'm doing. So maybe I give her a call. And
Speaker 1: Barry says, no, no, no, no, you're not going to
Speaker 1: call her. He says, I've a friend in New Yorker
Speaker 1: name as Michelle Singer. You're going to marry her. He
Speaker 1: says that like that, and I said, who is She
Speaker 1: says a friend of mine. She's a photographer, I know.
Speaker 1: And I said, does she's smoke? That's all I said,
Speaker 1: because Penny was a big smoker. She smoked like four
Speaker 1: packs that I mean, she was I couldn't stand it around.
Speaker 1: And he said yes, and I said, I don't want
Speaker 1: to meet her. You know, she has a smoke thirty
Speaker 1: years but at the time, she did smoke. And that
Speaker 1: was that. And he came back to me and he said,
Speaker 1: do you want to meet Rob Browner. I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean I didn't have an opinion one way
Speaker 1: or the other. And then he came back and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, well he's not interested because you smoke her.
Speaker 1: I was like, I fuck it, you know, I'm serious.
Speaker 1: That that was that. So then months goes by, and
Speaker 1: now we're going through the picture and we're about three
Speaker 1: quarters away through shooting and I'm doing this scene on
Speaker 1: the Upper West Side outdoors and I look over across
Speaker 1: the street and I see Susan Barry's at that time girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Now they're married, and I said, and there's a very
Speaker 1: attractive woman standing with I said, who's that woman there
Speaker 1: and says that that's Michelle Singer. I said, that's cheer smoker.
Speaker 1: I said that one. I said, what's she doing? He says,
Speaker 1: We're just going to go have lunch when we break
Speaker 1: in five minutes, we're gonna go lunch. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll join you. And I really I wormed myself
Speaker 1: into lung worm my way in. And now we're sitting
Speaker 1: at this place docks on the upper west side. Michelle
Speaker 1: is sitting next to Nora Ephron and I hear over
Speaker 1: there Michelle is saying, well, I can make better vishy
Speaker 1: swas than this, you know whatever. And I'm thinking, Jesus, Jess,
Speaker 1: what a bitch, you know. But I'm really attracted to her,
Speaker 1: you know. And so we walk back to the set
Speaker 1: and I could kind of chat her up a little
Speaker 1: bit and talk and that, and then you know, she
Speaker 1: goes and then I say, with Barry, ask her. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll ask her if she wants to go out. He says, okay.
Speaker 1: So we make a date. We make a date to
Speaker 1: go to Cafe Luxembourg because I was going to shoot
Speaker 1: the next day on Monday. This was a Sunday. We
Speaker 1: get there and wed seated, and the first thing she
Speaker 1: says is, look, if this doesn't work out, I don't
Speaker 1: want this to hurt your relationship with Barry, your friendship
Speaker 1: with Barry. And I'm thinking we didn't even order drink,
Speaker 1: so it's already not working out, and I'm sweating. I'm
Speaker 1: so nervous. She's running to the bathroom every fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: because she knows I don't want smoking, and she's going
Speaker 1: to smoke over there, and back and forth like this.
Speaker 1: So it was crazy. Anyway, we got through that, and
Speaker 1: then we started seeing each other a little bit through it.
Speaker 1: But it's like that he's shooting one night and they
Speaker 1: finished shooting and I go, let's go to this bar
Speaker 1: on Canal Street and we go to bar. He's forty
Speaker 1: one years old. He's never had a drink in his life,
Speaker 1: and he's never ordered a drink in a bar. He
Speaker 1: didn't know what to order, and I'm thinking, what am I?
Speaker 1: What's going on here? You know? So he ordered a
Speaker 1: port I don't know. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been to bars, but I don't drink,
Speaker 1: you know, so anybody. So then after that, it just
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just clicked and we never looked back.
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I never had any downs about it.
Speaker 1: But also you change at the end of the movie.
Speaker 1: I did because in the way we had it, initially
Speaker 1: it was going to be just they were never going
Speaker 1: to get together. They were going to see each other
Speaker 1: and then go their separate ways. And then because I
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how you ever got one anybody, And
Speaker 1: then once we started again, I changed it so that
Speaker 1: they wind up together. The Oh that's so romantic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a Nora? Did you say to Nora, let's rewrite
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, yeah, we rewrote Yeah, to go back
Speaker 1: to La. And then I said to her, come out,
Speaker 1: you'll come out and and visit, you know, And so
Speaker 1: she came out to visit. I think it was around
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving or something like that. I can't remember. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's the weird thing where we talked every day, you know,
Speaker 1: every day, we would talk, you know, every night. But
Speaker 1: then there's a thing where you haven't seen it somebody
Speaker 1: in like a month, you know, and your mind is
Speaker 1: your image, you don't know what. The minute you walked
Speaker 1: off the plane, I was that I was madly in
Speaker 1: love because I know that's that person, that same person.
Speaker 1: So that's when I was going to be Okay, it's lovely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: How did you know he was the right one, because
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just knew it just felt right.
Speaker 1: I think we just fell in love right a way
Speaker 1: and never looked, like I said, never looked back. And
Speaker 1: I can't explain it. There's nothing in my history that
Speaker 1: you know, showed I was going to have you know,
Speaker 1: I had terrible relationships before that, and I was already
Speaker 1: like three, three years old. You know, it wasn't looking
Speaker 1: good for me. So I don't know. I can't explain it.
Speaker 1: When you got married, you were married within seven months
Speaker 1: of meeting each other, right, and then it just happened
Speaker 1: on the spur of the moment because we went to
Speaker 1: Hawaii just to go on vacation, and you know, we're
Speaker 1: sitting there said you know, maybe we should just get
Speaker 1: married here was like that. It was very spur of
Speaker 1: the moment. It's a it was a really big I mean,
Speaker 1: I had to move from New York to California, which
Speaker 1: is that was the worst thing ever. We were standing
Speaker 1: there in Hawaii and we say said, oh, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: let's uh, maybe we'll do this, and of course then
Speaker 1: I got a terrible stomach ache and drink a lot
Speaker 1: of pepto bismol after that. But then we said, well,
Speaker 1: what do you do? I mean, don't we need witnesses
Speaker 1: or something? And as we're talking about witnesses, an elderly
Speaker 1: woman in a motorized cart comes up and looks at
Speaker 1: me and goes The Princess Pride was a delight from
Speaker 1: start to finish. I said, you want to witness a wedding?
Speaker 1: And she was there having a vacation with a friend
Speaker 1: of hers from Liverpool, another old lady, and they stood
Speaker 1: up for us on the beat, these two women. She
Speaker 1: was a retired professor from Stanford. After you did that,
Speaker 1: was there anything underneath that you still felt? I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure about. No. It's not to say they weren't
Speaker 1: problems at the beginning, you know, you know, family stuff
Speaker 1: and whatever that we had to go through. What didn't
Speaker 1: work with the families, Well, she wasn't fully accepted. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean they family, yes, by my family, And why
Speaker 1: was that you know, jealous? I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I tried for like twenty
Speaker 1: years to make it work. And it just did. My
Speaker 1: father was never like that. Well, the Phil's mother was
Speaker 1: a very nasty woman, and she was nasty to you.
Speaker 1: She was nasty like around me. You know, she wouldn't
Speaker 1: be mean to me. Would she'd say that she hated
Speaker 1: my house? You know? Well, of course what I say
Speaker 1: to Phil, I don't care, honest to God. And he
Speaker 1: was sensitive enough to say, you know, did that hurt
Speaker 1: your feelings? And I'd say it, really, it really didn't,
Speaker 1: because I thought she was so mean to him, so critical.
Speaker 1: Did that bother you that she would do that? Did
Speaker 1: you feel, let me put it this way, did you
Speaker 1: feel caught in the middle between your mother and Marlowe? No?
Speaker 1: I was hurt a lot by my mother. Nothing I anybody,
Speaker 1: especially her children. Nothing we said was ever validated, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean you could say I'm I'm tired and my
Speaker 1: mother would say we're all tired. That's like normally. Or
Speaker 1: when he first got when they had the first induction
Speaker 1: into the Television Hall of Fame and it was Walter
Speaker 1: Cronkite and Lucille Ball and he was in that group
Speaker 1: and he told his mother, you know, I'm getting this
Speaker 1: induction into the Hall of Famous mothers as well, if
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's never any kind of acknowledgment. I would say, though,
Speaker 1: because the reason I asked that question because for years
Speaker 1: I try to broker rock roche momp between you know,
Speaker 1: my original family and now Michelle and all that, and
Speaker 1: I just could never do it. I could never do it.
Speaker 1: We'll have more after a quick break. We're back to
Speaker 1: our conversation with Rob and Michelle Reiner. They've been together
Speaker 1: for more than three decades, which is no small feat
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, so we wanted to know some of their
Speaker 1: biggest challenges as a couple. I would say it's, you know,
Speaker 1: certain issues with the kids. I mean that, you know,
Speaker 1: we have different ways of going about it. I mean
Speaker 1: we try, we're on the same page a lot of times,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times we have different approaches, and
Speaker 1: that can be a source of you know, discipline, approaches,
Speaker 1: discipline and yeah, those kind of things. I give you
Speaker 1: the perfect example. I'm like the grandfather. When the boys
Speaker 1: were a little they were like I don't know, four
Speaker 1: and six before our daughter was born. I said, we
Speaker 1: really need to make, you know, teach them how to
Speaker 1: make a bed and are all of a sudden, Jake goes,
Speaker 1: but Daddy, you don't make your bed, and Rob went.
Speaker 1: You know, He's right, all right, that's it. That was
Speaker 1: that's the discipline history of this household, right, And even
Speaker 1: the kids complain that there's there aren't enough boundarieson that
Speaker 1: they weren't disciplined enough. And that's something that I got
Speaker 1: from my parents. My parents didn't discipline me either. But
Speaker 1: maybe you know, I didn't act out or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but I never got disciplined,
Speaker 1: really no, And so you just don't understand how why
Speaker 1: light needed. No. You got your kids, You love your kids,
Speaker 1: and you know hopefully they do the right thing. Are
Speaker 1: you are your boy slabs? No? No, they're not. Really.
Speaker 1: My husband is a slab. You know. It's amazing still
Speaker 1: to this day, Oh yeah, to this day, the towel
Speaker 1: doesn't get picked up off the floor. I'm better at that.
Speaker 1: I mean I was, I'm pretty neat. But she said,
Speaker 1: she said to me, put the towel back, fold it back,
Speaker 1: and put it on the thing. So I do that, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, the little things. Well, his parents would come
Speaker 1: into the house, never say hello, never say goodbye. I
Speaker 1: had to teach him how to say hello, how to
Speaker 1: go and goodbye. I had to teach him how to tip.
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, tip a lot, but how you do?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget. I mean, you know, she basically helped
Speaker 1: raise me. That's such a nice thing to say she did.
Speaker 1: She did. So. So how do you fight? When you fight? How?
Speaker 1: How very loud? Loud? Very loud? Yeah, too loud. Jews
Speaker 1: that can go because a big it is a big
Speaker 1: important thing. When people say, well, we never fight, I go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: then you're probably so repressed, yeah, and probably not have
Speaker 1: a good marriage, right because you do fight. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what happens. We don't fight a lot, but we do.
Speaker 1: So when you fight, you both screaming yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a quick escalation. You know, it goes from
Speaker 1: zero sixty year very quick. And who makes up? I
Speaker 1: think it's it's probably even I would think, don't you think.
Speaker 1: But we get through it. Usually I walk out of
Speaker 1: the room. I'll walk out of the room. That's the
Speaker 1: big complaint. So that's how I go cool off. And
Speaker 1: then I come back in and you're saying, there's no
Speaker 1: way you could like if if I'm set off, there's
Speaker 1: no way to know. Once I'm set off, that's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, then I feel horrible afterwards. And then what
Speaker 1: happens to me is I feel like I don't want
Speaker 1: want to not be with this person. I can't. That's
Speaker 1: a horrible thought, you know. So sometimes I have crossed
Speaker 1: the line. It's a horrible thing because you can't unring
Speaker 1: the bell, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Speaker 1: All you can do is say how much you love
Speaker 1: somebody and be sorry that that you did what you did.
Speaker 1: And that's another misnomer. Love is never having to say
Speaker 1: you're sorry. Bullshit is always having to say you're sorry
Speaker 1: if you are right when you say you crossed the line.
Speaker 1: Do you ever throw out the divorce word? Um? No,
Speaker 1: I mean she will say, what do you want a divorce?
Speaker 1: She'll say that, right, you know, to stop you from
Speaker 1: being crazy? Yeah? Yeah, And then I'll go, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that right now, but that's good. Yeah. Yeah, that's emotion,
Speaker 1: that's fashion, that's that's that's alive. We wake up at
Speaker 1: three in the morning and start yelling about but assassin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're both obsessed with the Kennedy assassination for over fifty
Speaker 1: years now. Yes, it was, no, no, it was. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of reasons. We actually had a
Speaker 1: project that we're trying to you know, put together, you know,
Speaker 1: but we'll get up at three o'clock and the more no,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, the entrance fool, wasn't you know, the
Speaker 1: grassy and we're we're into it, you know, at three
Speaker 1: in the morning, go to sleep. Well you have no no,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm thinking about that. Couldn't that shot
Speaker 1: couldn't have come from the book depositors. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of that. And it's interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: we've worked on political things together. We have very similar
Speaker 1: exactly the same political take on things. And she's more
Speaker 1: the driving force than me. I mean, she is, she's what,
Speaker 1: she's an irate citizen. Basically, there's just too much injustice
Speaker 1: in the world and she wants to fix it all.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm you know, we work together. We
Speaker 1: try to find the things we can actually work on.
Speaker 1: But but that's where we've always worked very closely together.
Speaker 1: Where there was marriage equality, which we saw, you know,
Speaker 1: we start start the first yeah, the first yeah, the
Speaker 1: first federal lawsuit on that, or on early childhood where
Speaker 1: we passed some legislation here in California to start investment
Speaker 1: in early childhood. We stopped a city from being built
Speaker 1: in the Santa Monica Mountains. You know, we've done a
Speaker 1: lot of different things, so that's the thing that we
Speaker 1: always we worked well together. I'm impressed with how self
Speaker 1: aware you both are. A lot of therapy, lots and
Speaker 1: lots of therapy. Really, that's oh yeah, together, We've done
Speaker 1: some together. But mostly what I think is that you
Speaker 1: each person has their problems and their issues, their neurosis
Speaker 1: that they bring to the marriage, and the only way
Speaker 1: you can improve things is to identify your own you know,
Speaker 1: work your side of the street. But then ultimately it's
Speaker 1: up to each of us to work on that so
Speaker 1: that we don't bother each other as much about you know,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be no bother, but it'll be hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, tempered a little bit. This is a weird thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it's like, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that bother me about him,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure if vice versa right, but somehow we
Speaker 1: put up with each other. If it was just a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I go, I can't take this anymore, and not for this.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what that is. I don't
Speaker 1: know what makes that work. But well, because I think
Speaker 1: there's more things that you love about a person than
Speaker 1: bothers you about a person. It's funny because I was
Speaker 1: on the phone with my friend the other day and
Speaker 1: we were in the city and we were talking about
Speaker 1: the fact that her boyfriend and Rob it just it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is. You'll say, I just told
Speaker 1: you that two minutes ago. We were just there five
Speaker 1: minutes ago. What is it? And it's like the same
Speaker 1: thing there there. My sister, first to its domestic, add
Speaker 1: that it's like, you know, they can't remember the writer,
Speaker 1: the producer, the thing, where when who wrote it up?
Speaker 1: And anything like it's like, honey, we're the diapers, you know,
Speaker 1: after the third kid. It's just you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's constant like that. And she said, look, you just
Speaker 1: have to let it go. And you know, don't just
Speaker 1: know that that's what it's like. And I had just
Speaker 1: texted him. I was coming from the Lorrie side. I said,
Speaker 1: can you go ahead and get some coffee. I'll be
Speaker 1: there in a couple of minutes and I walk into
Speaker 1: the apartment. I go, did you get the coffee? And
Speaker 1: goes no, I thought we were going together. It's just
Speaker 1: it's not even it's just not paying attention. I guess
Speaker 1: you just can't get mad about it anymore. Again, I
Speaker 1: don't know how long have you been married? Thirty? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. Yeah, that's really a lot. This happens
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Yeah, right. I hate to be
Speaker 1: the person has to edit this. It's fun, it's really fun.
Speaker 1: We've enjoyed it. It's we're learning a lot. Every time
Speaker 1: we walk away from a couple weeks say we should
Speaker 1: do that, that's a really good thing, or let's never
Speaker 1: do like, why did you learn tell me something? Well,
Speaker 1: I had to work on something, which is I am
Speaker 1: a fixer. I want to make everything better, right, even
Speaker 1: if you don't want me to write, So Phil will
Speaker 1: tell me something. We took this took years, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen of our forty years for him to say
Speaker 1: to me, I'm going to tell you something now. And
Speaker 1: I don't want you to say anything, and I don't
Speaker 1: want you to reach for the phone. Just listen to me.
Speaker 1: I need to tell you this. He just wants you
Speaker 1: to hear what want says. He wants you to hear that,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't ask you anything except to just listen
Speaker 1: to what I am. I don't want any advice, and
Speaker 1: I don't want you to call anybody. I don't want
Speaker 1: you to do anything. I just want to unload this.
Speaker 1: And that was that's extremely hard for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, your impulse is to make things better for him, right,
Speaker 1: And what you have to get to the point is
Speaker 1: that doing that doesn't necessarily make it better for you.
Speaker 1: That what will make it better for him is for
Speaker 1: you not to do exactly. And that's a that's a
Speaker 1: that's counterintuitive in a way, in a way, that's accommodation.
Speaker 1: I think we accommodate all all the time because I
Speaker 1: know that he's very different than me in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, you know, And I think he can sit
Speaker 1: on the couch all day and not move and I
Speaker 1: have to move constantly and keep doing things and be
Speaker 1: busy all the time. And that's what I like to do.
Speaker 1: And we're like, well like that. Yeah, Milo walks into
Speaker 1: my office, she starts fixing, I mean, putting this year
Speaker 1: and putting this away and talking all the time about
Speaker 1: something else. I mean, she really is a control freak
Speaker 1: in that way. And I'm the I guess nanty irishman.
Speaker 1: You know, I put something down, it's there for four
Speaker 1: and a half, you know where it is there. I
Speaker 1: know she likes to keep moving and keep doing. And
Speaker 1: I live a lot in my head. I do live
Speaker 1: a lot in my head and thinking about stuff. And
Speaker 1: I can be comfortable sitting and just thinking about stuff
Speaker 1: and that will come out in the work or you know,
Speaker 1: there's a divot in the couch where he sits. Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: that's amaze. But she's great because she sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: like we go SOMETI she'll push me to go out
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I'm always happy that I did. I
Speaker 1: think part of it we let each other be, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, I think that has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with it. So well, he's lumping
Speaker 1: out on the couch, I'm running around, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: never say come in here and sit with me. Where
Speaker 1: you're going? What are you doing? He just lets me be.
Speaker 1: Then I let him be, and we just there's sort
Speaker 1: of a synchronicity, even though we're on opposite ends. Of things.
Speaker 1: So right, that's a very comforting Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think what you said it is a big deal. It's
Speaker 1: it's you get a lot of You get a lot
Speaker 1: of strength from the fact that somebody lets you be
Speaker 1: who you are, right, I mean, that's part of it too.
Speaker 1: You have to accept you accept the person. If you
Speaker 1: love them, you're not You're not going to be them.
Speaker 1: They're not you. You have to accept them, and if
Speaker 1: you can, that makes another person feel better, right, just
Speaker 1: the fact that you accept them to be whatever they're
Speaker 1: they're doing. Right. Yeah. There's also a certain kind of
Speaker 1: ethic values that he comes with, you know, being raised Jewish,
Speaker 1: I mean not religious, but the Jewish ethics of things,
Speaker 1: you know, and also you know, the study of the
Speaker 1: questioning of things that talmudic you know, reasoning and logic
Speaker 1: and all that. What do you think you get from
Speaker 1: Rob that you don't get anywhere else. He's the nicest
Speaker 1: person ever that my life. He's the smartest and very
Speaker 1: talent you know. I can tell you from my standpoint,
Speaker 1: I get strength as neurotic as we both are, and
Speaker 1: we can be. I never worry that she will be
Speaker 1: She'll be okay, I mean she may get upset, she
Speaker 1: may get hysterical, she may get really upset about something,
Speaker 1: But underneath, I know she'll be okay. She's going to
Speaker 1: be okay, and that gives me strength. That's Robin Michelle Reiner,
Speaker 1: and that's a solid marriage. They have their differences of styles,
Speaker 1: but there's no question they are on the same team.
Speaker 1: And what a fun time we had. Next time I'm
Speaker 1: awake at three am, I think I'll give them a
Speaker 1: call until next time. I'm filled on to you and
Speaker 1: I'm Marlowe Thomas. If there was a young couple here,
Speaker 1: I was about to be married, What have you learned
Speaker 1: that you'd like to pass on? Find a best friend
Speaker 1: that you can have sex with. That's a good idea,
Speaker 1: and what about you? Father? Double Day as a production
Speaker 1: of Pushkin Industries. The show was created by US and
Speaker 1: produced by Sarah Lilly. Michael Bahari is associate producer. Musical
Speaker 1: adaptations of It Had to Be You by Stellwagen, Simfinette,
Speaker 1: Marlo and I are executive producers, along with Mia Lobell
Speaker 1: and Letal Molad from Pushkin. Special thanks to Jacob Wiseberg,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell, Heather Faine, John Snars, Carly Migliori, Eric Sandler,
Speaker 1: Emily Rostek, Jason Gambrel, Paul Williams, and Bruce Kluker. If
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