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Speaker 1: Sable Advice, Spice all alone. Welcome to the Naughty but

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Speaker 1: Night Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter. It's Friday, which

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Speaker 1: means our friend, We're very lucky. Friend, Corey Andrew from

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Speaker 1: Instinct magazine dot com is joining ours. Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here. Hello, Happy Friday. Hello, core I saw

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Speaker 1: a great video you posted your audition for Pose. Yes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: well you know season two. I was attempting to audition

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Speaker 1: instead and I never sent it. Cool. I know, after

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Speaker 1: you do all that work, you make the video, then

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Speaker 1: you have that horrible little doubt in your head, saying self,

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Speaker 1: doubt enough, you nobody cares. I didn't even say to myself.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, then send it. What do you care? Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 1: for the plug, my friend. Hey, let's jump into the show,

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Speaker 1: because do you know what time it is? It is

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Speaker 1: big exclusive. At the top of the show, Jennifer and

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Speaker 1: Ben Affleck the honeymoon is over, so they've not broken up.

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Speaker 1: But I spoke to some sources last night who know

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Speaker 1: jen really well, and they said it started to wind down.

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Speaker 1: I think in every relationship, at first, it's all so

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Speaker 1: exciting and new and romantic and sexual, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: and then by week three, week four, some of that

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Speaker 1: goes away a little bit. The initial excitement does diminish,

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Speaker 1: and then reality kicks in that and then when you're

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Speaker 1: as busy as these two, or really as busy as anybody,

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Speaker 1: you have to make a decision is there something you

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Speaker 1: want to pursue. The difference with Jennifer and Ben and

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Speaker 1: other couples is they don't really live on the same coast.

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Speaker 1: She's in Miami now, he's in l a. So they've

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Speaker 1: got to really make a decision. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of relationships, I know, at least in my life, when

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Speaker 1: they're so easy. If you're dating the guy at college

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Speaker 1: if you're to jet setting international superstars, where they have

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Speaker 1: if the answers yes, then they have to schedule time

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Speaker 1: for one another. My inside is, tell me they're talking

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Speaker 1: on the phone all the time, they're texting, they're enjoying

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Speaker 1: busy schedules, they've got to decide is there something they

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Speaker 1: She'd just broken up with a Rod, he had broken

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Speaker 1: the time. What do you think you are? Right? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you brought up a really interesting point in

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Speaker 1: sometimes go back with someone on a rebound, you're kind

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't wake where he chooses food. You

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Speaker 1: know you remember You remember these things? Do you remember?

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Speaker 1: And you forget them, don't you? The first guy I

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Speaker 1: And so now Ben and Jenna figuring all this out.

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Speaker 1: I think they both enjoyed all the attention. It's also funny,

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Speaker 1: This is so much fun. But once it's announced, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we get it. It was so exciting for a minute,

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Speaker 1: She certainly don't want to go to Boston. I love Boston,

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Speaker 1: Sources are telling me exclusively that the honeymoon's over. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they've broken up, but that rush of love

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Speaker 1: sort of toned down a little bit. Will they last?

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Speaker 1: them here. I just want to know what you think.

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Speaker 1: I go to a Twitter page at naughty nice Rob

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Speaker 1: and vote. We'll go to a Facebook page Naughty Gorsip

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back your results on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Corey Love, what are you working on that? Andy Cohen

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Speaker 1: another naughty story, the BBC is finally apologizing for Martin

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Speaker 1: Basher's interviewer where he deceived Princess Diana. This is a

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Speaker 1: Diana did a bombshell interview in when Martin Bashir interviewed

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