1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with her radio. Well, Hi, 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: just welcome to almost Famous. Oh geez, that's everybody that's 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: us know. How are my friend? How happy birthday? Happy? 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Believe you? Thank you very I finally joined your club. 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Good club. I've been here for a while and I've 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: just been kicking it by myself. I'm so thankful to 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: have somebody else here with me. Thank God. Oh I'm here, 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm here. Um. I do have to say I have 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: not been feeling well. Um, so if my energy level 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: is a little low, that's why. But um, I'm excited 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: to talk to our guest today. I am too. You 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: know something about this guest and I want to tease 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: this a little because I don't know if anyone knows 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: who he is yet. He was my roommate actually on 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: the first season of The Bachelorette. We were we were 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: bunkmates in a giant mansion bedroom. Did you actually have 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: bunk beds or were there just mattresses on the floor. 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: They were all single beds, so like, I mean, they 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: probably were bunk beds. I would imagine what a set 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: of stacking them. I think they knew better, you know 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: now they stack them. But back then it was all 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: single beds, and Ryan and I were pretty close to 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I just give it away. I just it's okay. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: He's coming in literally a minute. So it's yes, one 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: of my one of my my favorite people from the show, 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: a very dear friend of mine, and you kind of 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: know him too, I guess. But today it's really about 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: he and I. I mean, it's really our connection. Ryan's 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: in the waiting room. Yeah, yes, um yeah, Ryan center, 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: come on in. I don't think he needs much introduction, 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: but he does not. I mean, if you are, if 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna call you and I the o g s. 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: She is the only other uh, the only other guy 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: that's that's still in the in the Bachelor Bachelor Nation. 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: What do you call it? Zeitgeist? That's what the heck 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: is that word? Zeitgeist nists. This word we podcasters we 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: use areas. Hi, handsome, How are you, buddy? I'm good. 38 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Can you guys hear me? Yes? Okay? Can't we even 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: hear you upstairs? I mean it's perfect technology like it? 40 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I know? Yeah. I mean, as I said, 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: I haven't been feeling well, so we are in separate rooms. 42 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: Um we I'm trying to keep this guy healthy as 43 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: um as you know, Bob, he's been dealing with some 44 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: hell stuff. And one of the things, Babe, that I 45 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: wanted to have you come on and talk about today, Um, 46 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: because I feel like people always want to know whenever 47 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: I post anything is how you're feeling. So can you 48 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: tell everybody a little bit about what's going on lately, 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: how you're feeling. Sure? But before I do, I think 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: you guys should title this episode Ryan Interest to talk 51 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: about their separation. What do you mean was downstairs? Just 52 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: it was upstairs? What we didn't sit here like that? Yes, 53 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: we're doing that. Yes, And there's just a picture. It's 54 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: not any it's not any audio. We're just gonna say 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Ryan in trist to talk about their separation on like 56 00:03:52,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: a caption. Yeah, totally but perfect. I I guess going 57 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: back to your original question, I'm just tired today, but 58 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: that's just because I've been working. Um, we're just going 59 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: from work, and so I think if you're starting, like 60 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: if you want to start like right this moment, I'm 61 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: just a little bit tired. But lately I've been feeling 62 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. Um, you know, I don't I don't know 63 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: how far back you want to go, or what kind 64 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: of summer you want to be or including this. But 65 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, the last few years, like everyone, really have 66 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: been sort of difficult, uh, you know, on a lot 67 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of people's personal health and mind included UM and and 68 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: just sort of working my way through that and finding 69 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: UM finding and continuing to search for UM opportunities to 70 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: heal and get better and UM. You know, it's it's 71 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: tough also because we're entering this sort of second phase 72 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: of our lives. And so as you're getting older, you're 73 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: you're wanting to you're wanting to sort of do you 74 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: want your second half of your life to live up 75 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: to your first half? And it's hard figure out what 76 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: that looks like because it can't be the same. It 77 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: just that you have to sort of redefine your priorities 78 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: and UM, you know, try to temper what maybe your 79 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: expectations are. And so that's a secondary struggle to the 80 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: health part is UM. I've always sort of measured myself 81 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: on sort of physical benchmarks, and some of that has 82 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: to UM has to subside, and I have to find 83 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: other ways to UM to see how I'm doing because physically, 84 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I just you know, when you're forty eight, you just 85 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: can't do what you could when you were thirty eight 86 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: or twenty eight, regardless of whether or not you've gone 87 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: through health challenges. So so there's just a lot of 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: things going on UM at the moment that I'm just 89 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: trying to sort out, and UM, you know, with your 90 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: help and um the support of of family and friends, 91 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: I think we're making progress. I'm sorry about that about 92 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: turning forty eight. I don't really remember what that was like. Um, 93 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: this was so long ago for me. UM, but I 94 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: know for a fact that even at thirty eight and 95 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: twenty eight, because I've known you for a long time, 96 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I was never in as gonna shape you as you 97 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: are at forty eight. So you know, I am. I 98 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: am glad to hear that you're feeling better, though, because 99 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: I know it's been a challenge for you. And you know, 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: a lot of us that follow, you know, follow the 101 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: both of you on Instagram as I do, and that's 102 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: kind of you know, you never for me personally, even 103 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: though we've all known each other for so long, I 104 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: never wanted to ask the question like, Hey, what's going 105 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: on because it felt like it was too personal of 106 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: a question and it wasn't you You too kind of 107 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: alluded to it, but it was. It wasn't until you 108 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: were really willing to talk about it that kind of 109 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, we all were able to kind of get 110 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: a glimpse into what you've been battling and some of 111 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: the alternative things that you've done to to get yourself 112 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: back to feeling better, you know, like I want. I mean, 113 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: you and I talked about it when we were on 114 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: top together, and I was just fascinated with the whole 115 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: thing with with respect to the bees, and I mean, 116 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: I was just blown away by it because I know, 117 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: for a fact, to myself, I am terrified of being 118 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: stung by a being. I mean, even though I'm a 119 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: grown up now, I mean, I'm I'm a grown up 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: my you know, my son gets all stressed out of 121 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: cries about the idea of a be staying him. I 122 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: do too, And um, you know I know that you 123 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: you actually had to basically, you know, uh, get over 124 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: not only the just the I don't even know what 125 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: you call the trepidation of being stung by being that 126 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: momentary you know, feeling that you you're doing it quite 127 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: a bit. As is an alternative form of therapy. Can 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: we talk about that a litt bit too. Yeah, So 129 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: I think Bob, you and your son's fear of being 130 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: stung by a b is a healthy fear. And before 131 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I even start with advocating for this be vendom stuff 132 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: that I do. Um, you don't want to just go 133 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: out and start stinging yourself with bees. It can be 134 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: extremely harmful. Some people are very very allergic m manaphylactically 135 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: bad and it can you know, there are certainly reasons 136 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: for lots of people to be scared of these. However, 137 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: there are also lots of reasons for people to see 138 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: to sort of be very grateful for bees. Um. You know, 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: obviously there's the obvious delicious honey that they make, and 140 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: the pollination and all that sort of stuff. But again, 141 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: the movies, like one of my very favorite movies was 142 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: the b movie. I love that movie. Oh yeah actress actress. Yeah, 143 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: there they are wonderful actress bees. But they, um, they're 144 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: actually remarkable. Like if you ever get down and go down, 145 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: I want to go down that rabbit hole there. Um. Yeah, 146 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: they're they're very community driven. They know they're it's just 147 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: they're fascinating. They're able to communicate and lots of different 148 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: ways and all of the things that they accomplish. Um 149 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: as these tiny little creatures are, it's it's pretty amazing 150 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: what they do. Most of the the work actually being 151 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: done by women, women bees female. So yeah, so that 152 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: the human race, I can see. That's good. So anyway, UM, 153 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: the the honeybee in particular, not all bees, but the 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: honeybee has a venom that contains this, uh, this particular 155 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: product called militant, which is been proven to be have 156 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: anti viral, anti bacterial, antifungal properties. It's a really powerful 157 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: potent thing. And um, when you used sort of correctly, 158 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: when you when you use it in a therapeutic way, 159 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: it can help root out things like lyme disease, which 160 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: is what I'm using it for, um and kill it 161 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: and so you can get rid of it. Whereas there's 162 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: a lot of schools of thought that once you sort 163 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: of have this long term chronic find disease, you never 164 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: get rid of it. It It just hides out and you know, 165 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: far deep places in your body and just sort of 166 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: rereaks havoc on you forever. But these this b venom 167 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: has um has shown some pretty powerful effects against it 168 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a commitment. Obviously I've been I've 169 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: been on this program with UM with a company called 170 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: the Heel Hive for almost I guess I started almost 171 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: a year ago. Wow, I can't believe it's been that long. Yeah. Yeah, 172 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: I didn't start stinging with the bees until last spring. 173 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: But there's a which is why you want to go 174 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: with something like the He'll Hive because they'll guide you 175 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: through a preliminary protocol which UM, which because is going 176 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: to make sure you're not going to have some sort 177 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: of anaphylactic reaction, to make sure they're taking care of 178 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: all these other potential UM infections and and that you're 179 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: you're eating the right diets and that sort of stuff, 180 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: so you're set up well for success UM. And that 181 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: takes several months to get to that point, and then 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: you do. You know, Trista was there when we did 183 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: the first initial sting, which was you just you you know, 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: we keep bees in our house. We don't have a hive. 185 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: UM someday I would like to, but that's an argument 186 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Tristan and I are continuing to I'm continuing to lose. 187 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: But so right now I just have I get these 188 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: shipped here or in the summertime, I collect them locally, 189 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: but we we did one test sting to make sure 190 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't allergic. Um. We keep a couple of eppens 191 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: in the house. I have one in my truck. Yeah, 192 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: And um, so every other day now I sting myself 193 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: with anywhere from um four to seven or eight bees. 194 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: And this is these are live bees that you I 195 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: grab with these little tweezers, and they're all The stings 196 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: happen along my sort of spinal path on my back, 197 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: lower back. And um, yeah, the first few times it's 198 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: weird because you're just sort of the anticipation of waiting 199 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: for ye be to sting you was weird. But but 200 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: now now it's, um, it's just second nature. I just 201 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: it's all pretty fast. He actually he will. He will 202 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: do it and then come upstairs and be like, hey, 203 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: can you scrape the stingers off? Because the method is 204 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: he holds him to his back they sting him hopefully, um, quickly, 205 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: because honey bees actually don't want to sting you on 206 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: like wasps, and so usually have to hold him. And 207 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: I used to have to hold him, and um, now 208 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: he's doing it on his own. But he'll sting himself 209 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: and then come upstairs and you take like a little 210 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: credit card or a harder card and scrape out the 211 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the stingers. At this point in time, he leaves them 212 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: in the stingers for thirty seconds. And isn't that like 213 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: the kind of the maximum amount of time, like they 214 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: after thirty seconds From what the He'll hive has described, 215 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: the venom starts to lose, like you get the maximum 216 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: impact after thirty seconds. So, um, in the beginning he 217 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: was stinging for like one to three to five seconds, 218 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: and then that would increase with um, you know, the weeks. 219 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: But now he'll come upstairs and be like, hey, can 220 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: you get the stingers out? Um? Does it all on 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: his own? That was that was a question I was 222 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: I had was you know, I remember being stung as 223 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: a kid, and you know, always you go to your mom, 224 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: dad or whatever, they grab tweezers and they pull the 225 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: stinger out, you know, And so that was going to 226 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: be my question, like do you do you when you 227 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: do that with the card it does it remove the 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: thing or completely? Or is there still a little piece 229 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: of left in there? No, that's the intent is trying 230 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to scrape it out. Um, and get the stinger ound completely. Yeah, 231 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: there's a little barb on the end, so it's kind 232 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: of like a fishook. If you try to pull it 233 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: straight out, it actually can catch and that's when that's 234 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: when you get a little bit left. But did you 235 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: scrape it out? It usually comes out a little more cleanly. 236 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: They do you want to go grab the little house 237 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: and just show, um, Bob, I feel like people are 238 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: interested to see the little house. So we keep this 239 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: little bee house in um, in our pantry. It used 240 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: to be just in our kitchen, and some of the 241 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: bees were dying, and we think because it was a 242 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: little chillier. UM, So we keep it in our pantry 243 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and try to keep the door closed. UM. And he 244 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: usually gets I don't know, like fifty sixty at a time. 245 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: And then there are I don't I don't know that 246 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: we have any right now. UM, but there's some coming today, 247 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: but there I don't have any of them here yet. 248 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: How do they arrive? Really like a container, like a 249 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean little box. They come in this little box, 250 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: this tiny little box. Yeah, this is an older one, 251 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: but um, so sixty b s will cram into this 252 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: thing and they like to be close together they keep 253 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: That's how they are in their hives. They're they're very tight. 254 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: And then um, when they get to my house, we 255 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: put them in this little oh nice, this little thing, 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: a little bigger house. Yeah, and then we have a 257 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: problem with them flying out of there and when you 258 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: when you open it to like grab one and they 259 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: all just like storm out of there. So the crazy 260 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: thing is, um sometimes like if I'm in I always 261 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: do this, and usually in my son's bathroom because it's 262 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: the smallest and um Port Mexicans the smallest bathroom. But 263 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: we so if they do, they do get out there 264 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: easy to recapture. But oftentimes in the summertime, I would um, 265 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: i would do the stinging ritual and then I'll take 266 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: this the house out to my back porch and just 267 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: open the open it wide up right up and let 268 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: him fly around because the bees actually need to go 269 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: to the restroom. They don't like to go to the 270 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: restroom in their house, which none of us would and 271 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: so and they like to be able to fly around 272 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: from time to time. And the crazy thing is I 273 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: thought that I would, um, I would lose all my bees. 274 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really trust the trust that they would come back. 275 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: But they they all come back, They all fly back in. 276 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: And isn't that crazy? He literally says, I'm going to 277 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: let them take a walk. So the bees are taking 278 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: a walk, and they all I mean for the most part, 279 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: maybe we these one or two, but um, yeah, they 280 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: always come back to the house. Isn't that crazy? That's fascinating. 281 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yet another awesome quality of bees, right, I mean, 282 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: just that's pretty love oar bees. We love our bees. 283 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: They have done so much. I mean, talk about kind 284 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: of how since you started to be about in therapy, 285 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: how you're feeling UM, has it helped Do you feel 286 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: that it has helped UM? It has absolutely helped, I 287 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: think as a component of of sort of a lifestyle shift. 288 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there are other things that I think have 289 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: helped as well. But I was I was definitely plateaued 290 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: with just trying to find UM any other source of relief, so, 291 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I tried a lot of things like 292 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: a dust duss of herbal things and different sorts of 293 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: detoxication things. And when we started with the heel Hive 294 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: program and the bees, that's the first time I felt 295 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: like I was starting to get actual long lasting recovery. 296 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's still a component of a 297 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: larger lifestyle change. There's still dietary things that I do 298 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: and and exercise is huge, and detoxification and some supplements. 299 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: But the supplement list is like four supplements now it's 300 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: just as opposed to like a countertop full of of um, 301 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: just all sorts of It was overwhelming, and it was 302 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: with the stress of just trying to figure out when 303 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: you're supposed to take your vitamins. It was almost worse 304 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: than the disease. But um, but yeah, so I would 305 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I like to say that I feel like, um, you know, 306 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: probably eight percent of the time I feel better, and 307 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: then there's a twenty still where I'll have like a yeah, 308 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: I just won't feel as good. But um, it's that 309 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: even those days are far better than the worst days 310 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: used to be. So everything is just sort of upticked. 311 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: It's been more been more more positive days, more feeling better, 312 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: and then even the down days are are less down. 313 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: So and that all happened. Um as I've worked through 314 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: this be venom therapy and continues to sort of tick up. Um, 315 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: there are times when all maybe there was one time 316 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: where I did my steeing, I went, I was doing 317 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: eight stings and then one of those bees did come 318 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: out and it stung me on the chest, and then 319 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: I went for a bike rid it got stung again 320 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: by just a random outdoor be and that was too much, 321 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: and that that triggered a What it's called is is 322 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: a Hirk's reaction, and it's when the venom actually kills 323 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: off bacteria in your system, and the toxic bacteria are 324 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: left in your system and there's too much of it 325 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: for your body to to work through, um efficiently, and 326 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: it just makes you feel sick. So there there, it's 327 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: there's still some trial and error to the whole thing. 328 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking actually to Brooke at the Heel High this afternoon, UM, 329 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: just to you know, come up with the game plan 330 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: moving forward, um as of reaching this one year sort 331 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: of um moments but um, but yeah, I think the 332 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: long story short, I attribute a lot of the success 333 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: that we've been having to the to the bees, which 334 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: is awesome because I love I love nature, I love 335 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: natural types of solutions. I love being outside and this 336 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: just feels like it's um wholesome in that regard. So 337 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's authentic to what I would 338 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: would like to do as a person anyways, So and 339 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: that that probably helps to just knowing that you're doing 340 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: something that's true to yourself and then honestly being able 341 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: to let the bees out and see that they come 342 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: back makes me feel better too that they don't. I 343 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm holding them because they are mean. 344 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: The sad thing is that that that when they sting you, 345 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: they die any time, within a few hours or a 346 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: few days later because the sting um, you know, they 347 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: have that one sting and if they use it, they die. 348 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: So that every single bee that stings me is sacrificing 349 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: her life for me to feel better, And so I 350 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: just want that to be a meaningful sacrifice for them. Yeah, 351 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: I was. I was you thinking too about your you know, 352 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: your profession with being a firefighter and doing the things 353 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: that you do. And I know that I mean historically anyway, now, 354 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, I've never really talked about this, but I 355 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: assume this is probably the case for you that you do, 356 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, three or four days on and then you know, 357 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: however that works from your from your employment cycle, and 358 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: that's got to be first of all, that would be 359 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: utterly exhausting anyway, But then on top of that, to 360 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: be in the situation where you've been over the last 361 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: few years. Man, I could only imagine how much that 362 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: just takes audio. So was it something that you know, 363 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of because I remember a few years ago you 364 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: sort of stepped away for a little while and then 365 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: you got right back into it. Was that something that 366 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: was sort of driving the bus on that decision too, 367 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: or was it was it something else? You know? Is 368 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: it just you know, you want to spread your wings 369 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: and look at some other things, or you know, was 370 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: it was it sort of the fatigue and things that 371 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: we're taking as toll a little. But uh, when I left, 372 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: when I left the Veil fire Department, yeah, I was 373 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: going through um similar but not the same type of 374 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: health issues and it all may have been related. It 375 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: turns out that may have been the beginning of what 376 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: I was dealing within the dealing with now. But um yeah, 377 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: so I left and I got I got a little 378 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: bit better, But then I was in a profession that 379 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy, and leaving actually made me realize how 380 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: much I did enjoy the fire profession. So um, so 381 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: I went back, and I went but I went back 382 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: instead of to Veil, I went down to Denver and 383 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: so so our schedule is, um, it's good and bad. 384 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: We work. We worked a twenty four hour shift and 385 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: then we're off for forty eight UM, and then I 386 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: would work some trades here and there to try to 387 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: extend that because, uh, that one thing that has become 388 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: apparent is that getting enough sleep is huge, um in life, 389 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to recover from anything really a 390 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: race or um an illness or whatever. So that it 391 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: is a tricky balance. Bob, Like I try to do 392 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: the best I can. Interest is pretty tolerant of me 393 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: taking naps and that sort of stuff. Um. The fact 394 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: that I worked two hours away hasn't helped, you know. 395 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: So I created a situation where I love the department 396 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: I work with. UM. It's actually, you know, I didn't 397 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: not like the department I left. UM. I have a 398 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: new found appreciation even for those guys now and the 399 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: work that we were doing up here. But I needed 400 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: a change of scenery. So I went down there, and UM, 401 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: and I love it. It's just it does get a 402 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: little exhausting driving back and forth and you know, wanting 403 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: to rest and getting up so early in the morning 404 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: and and knowing the impact that that lack of sleep 405 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: can have, so I try to, Um, I just try 406 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: to approach days with a little more perspective and not 407 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: just have my foot on the gas but all the time, 408 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: and and that sort of that sort of helps see 409 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: stars they're just like us. I love that. This is 410 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: like anazing you know, people that think that's your fans 411 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: and they they see you too. It's just this you know, 412 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: golden couple, which we all see that. But you know, 413 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: it's nice to know that, um, you know that that 414 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: we actually have to have jobs, which we do, and 415 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: but also that you know we faced challenges and that 416 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: that you guys are particulating me because you guys have 417 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: been I think, the benchmark of the franchise for such 418 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: a long time, and you know, to know that you 419 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: go through these struggles, you go through them together and 420 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: you're just like another married couple. You help each other 421 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: through them, you figure it out, you know. And uh, 422 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: I've always said that about you guys. You know, it's 423 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: kind of funny because we were all kind of along 424 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: for the ride together for the longest time that Trista 425 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: took us both on and you know, it was so 426 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: fun to be in a in a way, you know, 427 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: I was kind of like your guys mouth piece when 428 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: you weren't there, because people would always go, oh, come on, yeah, yeah, 429 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: but he was on the show, and I'm like, I'm like, 430 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: trust me, yes they do. And hello, you know, I 431 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: don't know, just said Ryan. And you know, especially once 432 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: you guys add Max and Blakesley too, that it was 433 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: like a totally different conversation because it's like, you know, 434 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: now they have children, guys, and now you know, now 435 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: they're at their twenty year innver. It's like, you know, hey, 436 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: how long are you gonna keep on? You know, thinking 437 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't work? This is proof positive it does. And 438 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: then we all you know, but yeah, I'm glad you're 439 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: feeling better, buddy. And I think that, um, you know, 440 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: when we got to hang out to a little bit 441 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: a little bit together a Tahoe, may you appreciate what 442 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: you've been going through because I really didn't know as much. 443 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: And and you know, you're such a gracious person. You 444 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: don't really talk about it too often. You don't talk 445 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: about yourself very often at all, So I think, um, 446 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of nice to actually hear about 447 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: it and fascinating to hear about the treatment, you know, 448 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're feeling better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank 449 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: thanks for the opportunity. I don't I don't like to 450 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: talk much about anything, to be honest, I'm sort of 451 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: like my my son in that regard. But but this 452 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: is one thing, Um, this is one thing where that 453 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: that I feel like it's important to talk about because 454 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: one thing I found out is how many people are 455 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: going through similar situations, and how lost so many people are, 456 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: and desperate so many people are, and and um, just 457 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: the fact that there's this crazy like I'm doing this 458 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: vat of therapy. It may not be right for everybody, 459 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: but I never would have imagined myself using these as 460 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: a as a way to heal him and get better. 461 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: And so I just want to encourage people to have 462 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: an open mind, to to advocate for themselves, and to 463 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: continue to have hope in in finding a solution that 464 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: fits who they are and what they need, because it's 465 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: almost certainly out there. It's just oftentimes you don't get 466 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: the best advice right out of the gate, and so 467 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: you have to just kind of, you know, keep plugging 468 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: away and and that's the reason why I like, I 469 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: don't like, but that I'm willing to talk about it 470 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: to some degree. UM, because I do want people to 471 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: to have some hope and not feel like it's the 472 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: end of the end of the world if if they're 473 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: coming down with these diagnosis is because I think there 474 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: are solutions out there if you're open minded and so 475 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: so thanks for having me on and for giving me 476 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to see my life for the first time. 477 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: And like a week so we have to bring people 478 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: together here at the UM, but you're not getting out 479 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: so quick. I, UM, I am going to take this 480 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to because we hopefully we'll have some people listening, hopefully. UM. 481 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I want to take this opportunity to say thank you 482 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: to you, babe for um my surprise party. So Bob 483 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: he I have been wanting a surprise party since I 484 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: can remember, like since I was little, always always wanted one. 485 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: And like a week before my birthday, I was riding 486 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: in the car with Blake Slate and she's like, are 487 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: you so excited for your birthday? And like, I don't know, 488 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I really just I would love to have 489 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: surprise party. You know, we were just talking about um celebrating. 490 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's to my knowledge, babe, I think 491 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I heard this correctly. That she came home and she's like, okay, 492 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: we need to have a surprise party. So I think 493 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: a week before, right, no no, no, no no no 494 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: no no okay, so never mind, So take that away. Anyway, 495 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: even if it was like um, last minute or not. 496 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: He got so many of my friends and my family. 497 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen my dad and my step mom in 498 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: a year since well over a year since last summer. 499 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: We went to St. Louis to visit them, and then 500 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: my mom flew intown and Bob, you know her Hayley 501 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: pretending or Platt is your married nick um even though 502 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: they aren't together anymore. But yes, she was Chris's um, 503 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: my brother in law's date to our wedding, and she um, 504 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: she flew in for it. And anyway, it was such 505 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: an incredible surprise, such an incredible night, like I did 506 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: not want it to end. I could not stop smiling. 507 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: So I just want to say thank you, babe, for 508 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: on this public platform, if you will, for putting that 509 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: together and making me feel special. Well, you're welcome. I 510 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of help but yeah, right, we did it. 511 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: We did our best. It's either I'm very hard trying 512 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: it that's horrible, and I'm terrible at it, so especially 513 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: in today's day and age. So, Bob, I got a 514 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: a text message from one of the people who was 515 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: supposed to come to the party, like three hours before, 516 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: four hours before, and they texted, I haven't talked to 517 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: him in forever. I'm not going to name them, um, 518 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: but they texted me and they're like, hey, so it's 519 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: been so long, dada, UM, have so much fun tonight. 520 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, we can't come, but have so 521 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: much fun tonight. And I said, oh, it's great to 522 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: hear from you about what is what's tonight. And then 523 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: we're driving, Um, we had to pick up Blakesley from dance. 524 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: We're driving from the dance studio to the location and um, 525 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: I was looking at my phone and I guess some 526 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: text messages had come in so on Ryan's truck like 527 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: he has like the system we're you can see your 528 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: text messages show up on the screen or whatever. Yeah, 529 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: And so Blakesley and one of my friends Jen, who 530 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: was planning the party, and Ryan and maybe somebody else 531 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: were on this group text, and they had texted and 532 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: Ryan like shoot that away off of the screen and 533 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: then detected dismiss. It's because blake So Blakesley's role was 534 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: to tell that we were on our way when we 535 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: picked up from dance, and so I had sent this 536 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: group text to say like, hey, Blakesley, here's Jen in 537 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta's phone number. UM just texted when we leave and 538 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, stupid vehicles these days are all like so 539 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: bluetooth connected. Blakes Blakesley does exactly what she was supposed 540 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: to do. She sends a text. She just replied to 541 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: my group text, which I was on, and my truck 542 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, text coming in from Blakesley. No, no doubt. 543 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: He literally was like no, no, no, And I was like, 544 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: what is happening? So we so yeah, so yeah that's 545 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: just good, Like like anything can ruin it. It's like 546 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: this whole and we had probably been planning it for 547 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: a month or so, and so for a month you're 548 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: just on pins and needles, walking on eggshells. I'm like 549 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: catch myself wanting to ask her, like what should we do? 550 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: What your parents are here? Kind of questions. Yeah, it's 551 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: just so hard, but but it ended up. It wasn't 552 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: as big of a surprise as I thought. But it 553 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: was a great party and it was a great celebration. 554 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: It was so my son's first birthday party. We you know, 555 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: it was it was pre COVID and we were all excited. 556 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: So we had this huge party. Every one of our 557 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: family members came over, close friends with kids and stuff, 558 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: and you know, it was awesome. And you know, if 559 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 1: you look back at the pictures, you can kind of 560 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: tell something's off with with Grace and my son. But 561 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: that day are nanny was supposed to come. Originally she 562 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: was gonna come and work, and my wife called her 563 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: and she goes, hey, you know what, don't even worry 564 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: about it. We're gonna have so much family here. Just 565 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: take the day unless you know, we still love you 566 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: to come. And she was kind of like, kind of 567 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: like a little bit like, you know, no, thanks, I'm good. 568 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel well anyway. I haven't felt very good 569 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: for the last week and I've been coming every day 570 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: and we're like, this is the first we've heard of it. 571 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: This is literally the day before the party. It's like 572 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: Friday and the party, so we're like, oh, why don't 573 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: you tell us, you were feeling well, I know it's 574 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: a big deal. So next day we have everyone over 575 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: parties doing great. As everyone's starting to leave, I am 576 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: the type of guy who I cannot go to bed into. 577 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: My house is spotless every night. I do the dishes 578 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: every night. I clean, I vacuum, I sweet, I do 579 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: all these things. Well, then you know everyone's gone and 580 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm doing the dishes, and all of a sudden, I'm 581 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: just like, you know what, I can't. I can't do 582 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: this tonight, And I leave everything in the sink and 583 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: I go upstairs and I lay down face first on 584 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: my bad much like Ryan probably members from our days 585 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: in the mansion together when we were when we were tested. 586 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, face first and this, and my wife thinks, 587 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, he must have had too much to drink, 588 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: which I had not had a thing to drink all day, 589 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: And so she takes a picture of me and thinks 590 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: it's funny and sends it out as a text message 591 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: to a group of our friends like look who's overserved 592 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: at Grayson's birthday party? You know or whatever? Uh, needless 593 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: to saying, I had what I thought later was COVID, 594 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: Like I went and got the testing for it to 595 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: see if maybe it had been the strain of COVID 596 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: getting there kind of early. But it wasn't. It was 597 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: just a really bad flu. But how we knew how this, 598 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: how this transpired was everyone from our party got it 599 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: and they would literally call me and be like, well, hey, 600 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: thanks for the gift that keeps on giving. Uh, when 601 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: Grace's second birthday is coming around, to us a favor, 602 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: don't call us. Everybody got sick. Yeah, it is not fun. 603 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't like being sick, and um, it's not easy 604 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: when you're um, when your kids have to be everywhere, um, 605 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: at different places at different times, and thankfully they're at school, 606 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: you know most of the day. Max had a late 607 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: start today but we had to wake up at five 608 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: to take him to hockey practice that starts at six 609 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: fifteen in the morning. Anyway, UM, yeah, it's not easy, 610 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: but yeah it was. It was so worth it. I 611 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: would do it a million times over, um if I 612 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: had to be sick and fed again, because it was 613 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: just so much fun to see all these people who 614 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: I know and love and be able to hug on 615 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: them and um and just feel the love. So hopefully 616 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: you feel really special to knowing that Ryan and Blakesley 617 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: and your friends put in such a effort to plan people. Yeah, 618 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: people got on a plane, people got in a car, 619 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: and people made an effort to be there. It's just 620 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: shows you all loved you are. You know, you put 621 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: out positivity and you get it back. So I think 622 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: it's wonderful. We actually had to change the location three 623 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: hours before the party because too many people came, and 624 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: so we had one restaurant booked and we showed up 625 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: with that gonna weak. That's fire code violation. We can't 626 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: have these people. I'm so sorry, Like what I were, like, 627 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: what did you get out your badge? And like, trust me, 628 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna be fine. And you could tell, like I 629 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: have a video that my mom took, so my parents 630 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: were kind of hidden in this back room if you will, 631 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: or back section of the restaurant um and she took 632 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: a video of kind of people waiting for me to 633 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: get there. And there's this this woman having dinner with 634 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: probably her husband or whatever right next and you could 635 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: tell like she was just like why are these people here? 636 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: She was so frustrated because it was there were a 637 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: lot of people and it was they were, we were 638 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: all well, they were all pretty out before I got there. 639 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: And then of course, um, you know, surprise and everything. Yeah, 640 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: the people who came there for dinner that night were 641 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: not super happy that there was a surprise party that 642 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: they Yeah, they were just unhappy they weren't invited. That's 643 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: the only problem, all right. Anyway, it was great. I 644 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Think so, guys, I 645 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about something. I don't know if you 646 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: two know this story, but I think that, you know, 647 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: I think that I might kind of be responsible for 648 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: this union Trusted and Ryan and I. I don't know 649 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: that I've ever shared the story. I know I've told 650 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: you Trusted, but I don't think Ryan's ever heard this 651 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: story before. But m Ryan, so I'll never forget you 652 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: and I meet the first night at the mansion, and 653 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: I am uh we just you know, we were in 654 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: the same areas a lot, and we were always laughing 655 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: with each other and stuff, and and I used to 656 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: love telling the story of how you know. People would 657 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, Bob played college football, and 658 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm like I was, I was a backup A and 659 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: me talked to Ryan he played professional football, and it 660 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: would try to be crazy because Ryan would never you know, 661 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: I love that you wouldn't talk about it because it's 662 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: just who you are. You just you're so humble and 663 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: I love it. But I'd always be like, and I 664 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: would say that's people. They'd be like, oh yeah, he's 665 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: a fireman and a poet. And I'm like, you guys 666 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: have no idea who this guy is. I'm like, do 667 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: you realize you know, everyone sit here and talks about 668 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, it's a this in high school college. 669 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, the dude played for the Ravens. Okay. So 670 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: I would always get myself so fired up about that. 671 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, he doesn't talk about it. This is the guy, 672 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: trust me, this is your guy. You know. I'm like, 673 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm out there leading the Century Club and he's writing poetry. 674 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: The guy is amazing. But I used to always always 675 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: talk about that stuff. But one of the things, I 676 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever told you this story. So 677 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: we were at a group date and I don't know, 678 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: I don't think Ryan was on this date with us, 679 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: but there were five of us. Remember when we went 680 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: on the You and I have talked about the great 681 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: dates they planned for you that year, the wonderful, the 682 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: wonderful gold card date, which really made sense with what 683 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: was going on in your family. And then of course 684 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: the beach date would the shellfish good come right? So 685 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: so we're on a beach date and I'm you know, 686 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: we we go there and there, yeah, you were there, 687 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: and and I'll never forget I'm standing there, you know 688 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: and just sort of like, oh, I don't know, we 689 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: really wants next, you know, I'm just kind of hanging 690 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: out and Trista and I had already kind of struck 691 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: up this this really great friend vibe, and I could 692 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: tell that, you know, it was like we really like 693 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: each other, and it was like, but but we were 694 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: we were necessarily clicking romantically, right, and so but that 695 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: was okay because neither one of us care. I was like, 696 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: we're just having a great time. When we'd be in 697 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: the same room together and I was just like, I 698 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: love this check She's awesome. So we're not on the 699 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: beach and I'll never I think it was Carbone. I'm 700 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: not entirely sure, but I want to say that it was. 701 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, getting come here, I want to talk 702 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: to you. I'm like, yeah, hey, what's up in He's like, 703 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I go, oh, I'm just 704 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: going to grab a beer there out of the cool 705 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, listen, uh, man, you really gotta get 706 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: on this Tristo. Trista really wants to kiss you. And 707 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: I go what. He goes, oh yeah, she uh she said, 708 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: She's like, I really want to kiss this guy. Uh 709 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: And I go, I go hold on, I said, hold 710 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: on this thing. I go, you're so you're telling me 711 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: the Trisa came up to you, the producers, and was like, 712 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: oh man, I'll tell you what if this day could 713 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: be any more special for me, I'd make out with 714 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: that guy in front of four other dudes. That's what 715 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: I want to do. And he's like yeah yeah. So 716 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: she said, I go, that's what she said you because yeah, 717 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: I go. I go, here's what's not gonna happen. I'm 718 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: not gonna try to kiss her on a beach in 719 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: front of four other dudes. It's not happening. So good try, 720 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: thank you, but it's not happened today. So I walk 721 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: away and as I'm walking away, I started to think 722 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: about it, and I'm like, I hope the Trista doesn't 723 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: think I don't want to kiss her because I mean, 724 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean she's lovely. Of course, I like 725 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: I've you know, I I liked it, you know, but 726 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: the whole time. So I'm like, you know, I don't know, 727 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna necessarily try to kiss her, but I 728 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: could I should have at least take the opportunity to 729 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: go and talk to her. So I come back and 730 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of beers. I'm coming back for 731 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Jamie blythe I'm gonna give Jamie a beer. And you know, 732 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: Jamie's the most lovable mannequin. I'm a planet, right. The 733 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: guys just you wind him up and the circus. So 734 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: I drop walking back for a couple of beers and 735 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh. Car goes like hell, ho where going? 736 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go get a beer to Jamie and 737 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: he's like no, no, no, he's uh, he's he's in 738 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: the middle of something right now. Oh. I kind of 739 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: glanced around everybody and like I see Jamie on the 740 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: beach going in to try and kiss Triss and she's 741 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: like whoa, no, thank you, no thanks, And I'm like yes. 742 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: So I was so glad that I didn't take the 743 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: bigger of course, you know, my dumb buddy does. So 744 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: we get the limo way after this whole shellfish thing, 745 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: and you know where it's just funny and and we're 746 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: in the limo and I and I go, hey, Tristy, 747 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: you know, um, I just want to say, you know, 748 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: if my sister were on the show, because I was, 749 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: I was feeling like she I don't know, I felt 750 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: like I was supposed to protect you on these day. 751 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't know why that was in my head, but 752 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, my sister on this show and 753 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: and you know, five dudes and on a beach, I'm like, 754 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: someone of them trying to make out with her. I 755 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: would I'm just gonna say it right now. I hope 756 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: you don't think that means we're not interested in getting 757 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: to know you better, because we are. We're just being respectful. 758 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: And I and Jamie's sitting like down at the end 759 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: of the limo and I'm down here at the other end, 760 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: and Jamie's going and I'm like, but if someone did 761 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: try to kiss you, that wouldn't mean that they're a pig. 762 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: It would just mean that they're you know, they're doing 763 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: something different than me. I guess I don't know. I 764 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: don't know what a j's like can throw me under 765 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: the bus man, I'm like, you're the dummy that listened 766 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: to Carbone. I tell you to do that. It's a 767 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: long but I feel like, you know. I guess I 768 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: should just say you guys are welcome. You know, yeah, 769 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: thank you, thanks, thank you. I've always given you a 770 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: ton of credit actually, especially in the early sort of 771 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: the early group dates, where all of the pressure was 772 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: off of me too to be sort of something I 773 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: wasn't because I'm not super extroverted. But if you were there, 774 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: then it was always a good time because you that 775 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: was you, and you took that um you did. You 776 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: handled that very well, and you made it fun for 777 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: everybody involved. Not it wasn't. You was just focused on Trista. 778 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: That everybody sort of got to be a part of 779 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: a really good time when there was a group date 780 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: with you, Bob. And so I've I think I've told 781 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: Trista this many times. They that you you sort of 782 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: got me through those initial stages until it could be 783 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: more one on one and I could get to know 784 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: Trista just as a person and she could get me 785 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: as a person. But but yeah, I I didn't know 786 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: that the extent of the yeah. But yeah, I've always 787 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: thought and I think we were super fortunate. And when 788 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: people ask me about the show, I always tell them, like, listen, 789 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: I liked every single guy that was on that, So there, 790 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're not. I don't keep in touch with 791 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: them now, but I don't keep in touch with a 792 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of people in my life now. For that period 793 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: in my life, I felt fortunate to have known all 794 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: of you guys, And um, it wasn't the kind of 795 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: show that was super dramatic, and there was not in 796 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: hiding between us. Like I told people initially, half the 797 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: time guys would were like, oh crap, I got a 798 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: date with Tris to like keep my beer like cold, 799 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: I'll be bad. Like there wasn't like amos like more 800 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: fun to be at the house sometimes than it was 801 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: to be outside of the house. So much fun. We 802 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: had a good time. We were we were fortunate to 803 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: have that experience, and I feel like I it was 804 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: especially especially fortunate to have it in the way that 805 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: it did for me. But but the path along the 806 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: way was certainly enjoyable, and that was in large part 807 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: because of you. So thank you for that, buddy. I 808 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: means a lot to me. I I always say that 809 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: I was always like I felt like Ryan and I 810 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: were like the perfect man together. Like he was, you know, 811 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: just a stud, super sweet and kind, and I'm nice enough, 812 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: but you know, he's like he's sensitive and he's caring, 813 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: but he's also really funny and when you get to 814 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: know him, it's such a great time, you know, you know, 815 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: like and then I'm the one that just sort of 816 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: breaks the ice everywhere I go, and then you know, 817 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: you know, But it was one of those things where 818 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: I felt like, um, I agree with you. I mean, 819 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: I've often said it that I think interesting. I think, 820 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, it does start at the top, and I 821 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: think that from that perspective, it really didn't start with you. 822 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: We weren't There wasn't a bunch of drama with us. 823 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 1: We were genuinely friends. Like I remember when I came 824 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: off the show, and I remember I didn't know who won, 825 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: and um, who was the choice? I should say, it's 826 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: not gently a winner. I suppose you know, I know 827 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: how that works. But I I said the wrong word there. 828 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, I I was sitting I'm never forgetting 829 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: saying if she doesn't choose Brian, I will lose my 830 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: mind and everyone'll be like, A mean, I'm like, I 831 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: go I was choosing Ryan. I was like, Okay, how 832 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: do I keep Brian in my life? What do I 833 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: gotta do here? I gotta do I have any roses? Like, 834 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: how the hell do I do this? You know, because 835 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: it was like we'd be in our little bonk beds, 836 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: which were you know, like the single twin beds in 837 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: this big room, and it was like, you know, we 838 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 1: just all bonded and it was never i mean agreed, 839 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: like it was never one of those things where I'd 840 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: run into someone years later and be like, oh, there's 841 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: that guy. It was I was like, hey, you know, 842 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm so we didn't have any of that stuff. You know, 843 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: it was so good. But I do think that starts 844 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: with you, Trista, because you sort you had to set 845 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: the pace for that and because of your experience, you know, 846 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: you made it so that it was drama free for us, 847 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: because you knew how that went right. I mean, it 848 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: was a little bit of Yeah, I don't know if 849 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: I had much to deal with it. I think you 850 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: guys were just awesome. It was just such a good 851 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: group of guys. And and at that point in time, 852 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: because it was so I knew, uh you know so 853 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: o g um, people weren't as into and maybe the 854 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: producers weren't as into kind of inciting the drama and like, 855 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, getting people to to uh focus on in 856 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: fighting when it was just so I kind of wish 857 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: for that again. I wish there was just this great 858 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: group of guys or girls that just have such a 859 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: great time together. And and although I do kind of 860 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: like the drama watching, but at the same time, I 861 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: I loved my guys. I love you. Yeah, yeah, you 862 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: didn't have some great ones. I mean there was, I mean, 863 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: you know, to a number. I mean I keep in 864 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: touch with I still keep actually Jennie Blythe and Jack French, 865 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, and of course the two of you, which 866 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: is nice and um, you know, and that's why I 867 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when I look at the season, 868 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean I always kind of come back to that. 869 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: And then I told the story recently on the air, Rhine. 870 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you got to hear about it, 871 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: but I ran into the guy, the first guy I 872 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: met in the mansion after Green trist I walk inside 873 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: and there's a guy standing there and he was just 874 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: this great looking guy and he's just standing there and 875 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: he was just very like perfect posture and he's like, 876 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, how are you. I'm like good, you know, 877 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: and talking to him and he's like, you know, I 878 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: won't go back to the rabbit hole the whole story, 879 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: but I remember going, you know, so what do you do? 880 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: And he's like, I studied the martial arts. And I'm like, ah, 881 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: I too, studied the martial arts. And he's like you do. 882 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: I said yes. He's like what discipline? And I said tibo. 883 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: And Jamie Blyth of course is with me, and he's like, 884 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: are you going to feel like the funniest guy a 885 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: live I'm like yeah, zer and guys like that's not 886 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: a martial art brother, and I'm like, oh, tell Billy 887 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: blank Stath, you know, because that guy is making a fortune. 888 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: And I ran into him at the Kentucky Turkey like 889 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: two years ago, and I'm like, oh, I know this guy. 890 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 1: And he's like I was with you in trist this season. 891 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, and he that story, so 892 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, even to this day, you know, 893 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: we can feel good running into each other because it's 894 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: always going to be pretty pleasant. Well, thank you so 895 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: much for coming um and walking down memory Lane with 896 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: me and Bob and chatting about how you're feeling. Um, 897 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: We've been talking about having you on for a really 898 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: long time, so thanks you. You've got to have the 899 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: original O G S on. You know what I mean, 900 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: this is this is the real deal. This makes me 901 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: so happy. And Ryan, I mean you, I love and 902 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: respect you man, and I just I'm so happy that 903 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: you would come on and share, you know, share a 904 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of what you've been going on through too. I 905 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: think I think it is gonna help a lot of 906 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: people because whether it's you know, whether it is line disease, 907 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: or whether it's something else that they're dealing with. Like 908 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: you said, you have an open mind and be willing 909 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: to try some different things and not just go down 910 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: the conventional path of over medicating yourself. Not that so 911 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure some people can do that too. 912 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: But I think that's a pretty uh wise wise bit 913 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: of information to dispense today. So thanks for doing that 914 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, No, this was fun. It was fun. 915 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to think back on those those 916 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: days so long ago with the especially Jamie. I just 917 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: remember like dog food, stuff, anxiety attacks and all sorts 918 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: of stuff, and it's just kind of fun to read it. 919 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the same with you, but 920 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,479 Speaker 1: it feels like a totally different time or I feel 921 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: like a lifetime ago, so to think about it, it's 922 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: kind of fun. So thanks for having me on and 923 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: allowing me to to partake in some of that and 924 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: to share my story. And uh, you know where to 925 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: find me if you if you ever want to talk again. 926 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm downstairs. Okay, your trial separation there 927 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: in the in the downstairs level. I love that good. 928 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: I know you hit gold on the show. You know 929 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: that you genuinely sure did. I am a lucky girl 930 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: that you really are. I said, also, you know that 931 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: if Ryan wasn't there, I don't know that anyone else 932 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: would have worked, just because I just feel like he 933 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: was meant to be my person. So I did too. 934 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: I honestly thought that I thought that while I was 935 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: still on the show, which is kind of crazy. I 936 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: remember being somewhere and thinking to myself, like, I don't 937 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: feel like I'm ready for this, you know, and we weren't. 938 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: We weren't like we didn't even never have an individual take, 939 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We were always on great 940 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: case together. But I remember thinking to myself, like, if 941 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, because I you know, I cared about 942 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: you and I like you so much so quickly, and 943 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: I was like, if I'm being honest about this, who's 944 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: the right person for her here? You know? And and 945 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, it's gotta be riot, 946 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: It's gotta be like there's you know. And back then, 947 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: as you recall, the show was always edited to make 948 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: the second or third uh Evisually I was left in 949 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: the mix that person looked like hands down and they 950 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: had to be the person. And this is no not Charlie, 951 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: because I loved Charlie too, but it was like, you know, 952 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: there was it was always gonna be that was the 953 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: person of the crowd thought, oh, this is it. And 954 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: then then the person who would come in in the 955 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: end and be the one that got the proposal or 956 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: was the one that actually proposed and it was the 957 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: proposal was accepted. They were the ones that, you know, 958 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: I feel a lot of footage was probably left to 959 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor of them, because they really were 960 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: kind of stacking the deck so that people would be surprised. 961 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: And um, and I mean that's that's not a secret. 962 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: That was something that I think, you know, was pretty 963 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: out after like the first five or six seasons and 964 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: that's when they started switching up the formats of the 965 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: show and stuff. But I just remember that day that 966 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, like, it's time. It's time 967 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: for me to get out of the way here because 968 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: I I don't want to be a distraction and and 969 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: um and you know, and you obviously were thinking the 970 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: same thing as me, because that's when you let me go. 971 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: But it was like one of those things. I was 972 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of like, I remember thinking how much I wanted 973 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: you to meet my family and everything, but also how 974 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not ready if we were to 975 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: go to the next level, would I be able to 976 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: pull the trigger and do the right thing? And I 977 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm not ready. But if I look at this room 978 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: of guys, who is ready? Who is and who's ready 979 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: for this person? Specifically? That was Ryan? That was Ryan 980 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: all day long. It I can say, honestly, you know, 981 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: remembering back then, he wouldn't have been the way that 982 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: he was with you, which is anybody you know that 983 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: wasn't That wasn't Ryan Sutter style, you know what I mean. 984 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: He was that way with you because you were you 985 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: and that was what he wanted, and it was I mean, 986 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: it was genuine from the jump. And I remember thinking myself, like, God, 987 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: that's that's the one, you know. So it's always nice 988 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: to to be associated with with that era of this show. 989 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: And you were there. We were there the golden years. 990 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: As we say, yeah, yeah, I can say it too. 991 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: We are, I guess in our golden era as fifty 992 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: year old or fifty plus year old whatever we are. 993 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: Plus he's just a baby's little babe. I love you. 994 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: I hope you feel better. I know you're not feeling 995 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: great today, but I hope you are still reveling in 996 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: the good feelings from your birthday bash. Yes, it was 997 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: so fun. Thank you, Thank you for the chat. I'm 998 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: glad we got to chat again today, And as always, 999 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: tune in to the next almost famous O. G.