1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour in this Wednesday Dan and The 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Dan It's Dan Patrick Show. The NFL announced a couple 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: of days ago that it would officially partner with four 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: more gambling companies, reaching agreements with three other operators in April, 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and certainly not hard to see the irony. Not long ago, 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: the NFL was making grand statements about gambling. They even 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: came down on Tony Romo for having the audacity to 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: hold a fantasy football Then in Las Vegas they've changed 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: their whole direction with no explanation whatsoever. Of course, sports 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: betting being legalized as a fine excuse, and there's a 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: good argument to be made that the league and its 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: players deserve a cut of the money. But this does 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: appear to be another example of the NFL making up 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: their own ethical stances because it's good for business, and 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: they're hardly the only organization in the world to act 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: that way. They're in the overwhelming majority. But still every 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: time the NFL makes it seemingly well meaning statement, there's 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: a reason to wonder how it affects the bottom line. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Any concerns about being involved in gambling went out the 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: window when huge amounts of money started flowing through legal gambling. 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: I bring this up for a couple of reasons. Yes 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: there's hypocrisy here, but we're used to that with the NFL. 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Arch Schleaster is getting released from prison. And if you're 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: old enough to remember Arch Sleaster, he was a great 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: high school player. He was very good at Ohio State. 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: He was drafted by the Indianapolis Colts. I think he 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: was the fourth pick overall. But from January to March 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty three, arch Schleaster reportedly lost nearly four 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to Baltimore area bookies. It was the 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore Colts that he went to, later becoming the Indianapolis Colts. 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: In May, it was reported that the FBI had launched 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: an investigation into arch Schleaster's gambling while playing at Ohio State. 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: He was suspended by the NFL Commissioner, Pete Roselle indefinitely. 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: In fact, the commissioner said Archleaster will not be reinstated 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: until the league can be solidly assured that the serious 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: violations of cardinal NFL rules he has committed will not 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: be repeated. Well, they were repeated and he was suspended. 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: He was reinstated. He returned to the Colts active roster 40 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: the following season. The Colts waived him after five games. 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty six, he joined the Buffalo Bills as 42 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: a free agent. He is a career criminal. He has 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: defrauded people out of millions of dollars. He had a 44 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: run of prison sentences that spanned two decades. Gambling addiction 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: led to financial frauds, theft, and what appeared to be 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: a promising NFL career. He was and still is. He 47 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: tested positive for Okay while he was in prison. Even 48 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: when he was set to be released, he had a 49 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: woman on the outside who was placing bets for him. 50 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: He's sixty one years of age. He started gambling when 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: he was in high school. This is arch Lester who 52 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: had everything, but he got addicted. He got caught up 53 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: and he has an addiction problem, not just gambling. Now. 54 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: As part of his parole, arch Leaster was required to 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: sign a contract agreeing to a number of rules. He 56 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: can't own guns, use illegal drugs, can't leave the state 57 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: without notifying his pro officer. But believe it or not, 58 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: as part of his parle there is nothing in the 59 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: contract stating arch Leaster cannot gamble. I know it's a 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: cautionary tale. I know. You go, well, that's one person, 61 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: or that happened a long time ago. This is all 62 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: it takes. It takes somebody who can't control themselves. What 63 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: if if arch Sleaster was playing today, he'd be gambling today. 64 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Now he might be gambling legally. He might be playing 65 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: in a game that he's betting on through bookies. Because 66 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: somebody like this, while they might be betting legally, they 67 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: would probably want to bet with a bookie because you 68 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: can't be betting college football pro football. But arch Leaster 69 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: is in debt four hundred thousand dollars back. Then who's 70 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: to say he's not going to give inside information. Who's 71 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: to say wouldn't throw a game? This will happen not 72 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: it could. This will happen in our lifetime where we 73 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: have a situation where somebody gets so deep in debt 74 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: gambling that they do something and is it throw a game? 75 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: And before you say, well, you know, now it's legalized, 76 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean everybody is going to bet legally. Because 77 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: two people I know who bet on football games, they 78 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: bet throw a bookie. They don't want to bet legally. 79 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: They don't want to have to declare their winner winnings. 80 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: They don't want to pay taxes. This is going to continue. 81 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: But I remember growing up Arch Sleaster. That was the 82 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: guy like he couldn't miss Arch Sleaster. He was grew 83 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: up in Ohio, a small town in Ohio, went to 84 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State. He was going to be a star, had 85 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: all this talent. You know, I was sixty three one ninety. 86 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: But Arch Sleaster is a career criminal guilty of fraud 87 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: a massive tickets scheme that built millions of dollars from 88 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: his victims. He pleaded guilty to that. He was promising 89 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: college and NFL tickets to buyers, didn't deliver the tickets. 90 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: It's a cautionary tale. But whenever I think of Arch Leaster, 91 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't go, well, it's only one person. He got caught. 92 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: There's money, where there's money, where there's somebody who loses money. 93 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Pete Rose got into a situation where he wasn't a 94 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: good gambler. Well what are you willing to do? I'm 95 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: going to bet on games, I'm managing. Do I think 96 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: bet he bet while he was playing, Yes, I do. 97 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: Do I think there are players who bet now, yes 98 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: I do, but they do make a lot of money. 99 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: But arch Leaster was making a lot of money back 100 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: then too, and he got in over his head. And 101 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: you know what happens when you make money, you bet more. 102 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Because I remember I didn't make any money, and I'm 103 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: betting one hundred dollars, two hundred dollars, three hundred dollars. 104 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, biggest bet I ever made was three thousand 105 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: dollars on a Bowl game I lost cost me thirty 106 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: three hundred. When you have it, you bet it. I 107 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: remember being in Tahoe and watching somebody who I used 108 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to work with or be around, and he had I 109 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: think three or four hands in front of him playing 110 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: blackjack for twenty five thousand dollars a hand. And I'm thinking, 111 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has that kind of money, 112 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: but entertainment purposes and hey, just having a little bit 113 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: of fun here. Arch Leaster probably thought this is fun. 114 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: He used to go to the horse track. He used 115 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: to bet thirty dollars on a race. Then it became fifty, 116 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: then it became a hundred, then it became a thousand, 117 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: then it became I'm gonna bet on football games. That's 118 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: how it starts. And then when you are when you 119 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: owe them money, then they use you. That's what happened 120 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: with the Boston College point shaving scandal. Hey, we're gonna 121 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: give you money. All we're asking is don't try too hard. 122 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Make sure here's the the point spread. You guys got 123 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: to win by eight points or less. That's all. And 124 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: then you can't walk away because all they have to 125 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: say is we're going to expose you. We're gonna call 126 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: the NCAA, we're gonna call your coach. That's what happened 127 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: to Austin College with the point shaving scandal. So Arch 128 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Sleaster is being released on parole, just a name to 129 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: file away. Maybe nothing comes up. Hopefully nothing comes up, 130 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: but if something does, don't be surprised. Because I have 131 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: an addictive personality. I know it. If I latch onto it, 132 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: then I want to continue to do it. And gambling 133 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: was something that I did and I became consumed by 134 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: it constant. Couldn't even watch a game that I had 135 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: bet on, but that didn't stop me from gambling. Even 136 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, Tannessey, I couldn't be in one league. I 137 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: had to be in five It couldn't be one sport. 138 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: I had to be in baseball, golf, Nascar. It happens. 139 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: It happens to people. You get addicted to something. It's 140 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: not just drugs alcohol, this is gambling. And Art Schleister 141 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: had everything you could possibly ask for and it wasn't 142 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: enough because all it took is one gamble, two one beat, 143 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: another bat, another bat. Hey, this is great, I love it. 144 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: Art Schleister is being paroled this week, all right eight 145 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: seven seven three d P Show email address, DPA, dan 146 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Patrick dot com Twitter handle at DPS show. We discussed 147 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: urban Meyer saying the quiet thing out loud where he 148 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: factored in the vaccine. If he would have said if 149 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: you leave out the V word and just said, hey, 150 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: you know what, we factored in the availability of players 151 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: as far as if we were going to keep him 152 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: or not, would he be facing an investigation by the 153 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: NFL Player Association because right now that's what's going on. 154 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: The NFL Player Association doesn't know if it can prove it. 155 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: But the NFL is looking into the NFL Players Association 156 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: looking into urban Meyer's comments. But the NFL set up 157 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: these tough rules themselves. They don't want to look sympathetic 158 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: to unvaccinated players, but they don't want a coach to 159 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: be able to say, hey, this is what I did. 160 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I factored this in Do I think that Bill Belichick 161 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: factored this in? Yes? Do I think all the other 162 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: coaches factored this? In? Yes? Why not? I would? You 163 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: just can't say it out loud, and Urban Meyer is 164 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: not used to having somebody say, Urban, you can't say 165 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: that out loud. Urban had total autonomy in college. I 166 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: want to answer to anybody, all right, maybe my athletic director, 167 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: maybe the commissioner. But in the NFL there's rules, there's unions, wait, 168 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: there's protocols, and Urban Meyers once again put himself right 169 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the bulls eye in the 170 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association. While it'd be difficult to prove from 171 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: what I'm told the NFL Players Association is looking into this, 172 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: is it confusing? Though? I feel like the NFL PA 173 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: does want players to get vaccinated, so you know, they 174 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: came up with this system of rules which strongly encourages 175 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: players to get vaccinated, so it's kind of their system. 176 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: But you can't have you know, discrimination here, you like 177 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: that lawsuit or potential lawsuit that I got cut because 178 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get vaccinated. But the NFLPA set up a 179 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: system that is discriminatory by nature. It makes it impossible 180 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: for unvaccinated players the NFL and the NFLPA to gain No, 181 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: almost impossible, Like can you lose your job over this? 182 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: Can we make it difficult for you to come to 183 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: work each day? I mean, I'm not a lawyer. I 184 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: don't want to play one on TV, but I would 185 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: think that why would the NFL Players Association be looking 186 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: into this? No, they have to be right, just because 187 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: the law is. But the overall message, though, I feel 188 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: like they want players to get vaccinated. They want teams 189 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: to encourage their players and the owners too. Yeah, but 190 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: you can't demand it. What is the law legal states? Like, 191 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: isn't this all going into the Supreme Court? Whether employers 192 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: can make their their guys get vaccinated? That's like still 193 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: to be determined out there. Oh that's beyond my pager. Yeah, 194 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't me to like you're getting into really be 195 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: It's like where sports and society intersect here. That's a 196 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: really big issue, a big question. But do I think 197 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: that you know, Cam Newton not being vaccinated factored into this, well, 198 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: maybe not that that's why he got cut. I think 199 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: it might be the reason why he's not picked up 200 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: he got I think he got cut released because he 201 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: got involved in whatever COVID protocol or there was miscommunication 202 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: that took him out of the Patriots practice lineup for 203 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: three days and mac Jones ran the offense, and I 204 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: think the coaches came away saying, what are we waiting for? 205 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: We're postponing the inevitable. Mac Jones is winning this job. 206 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: And that's what I was told yesterday. Make no mistake 207 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: about this. This was not about Cam Newton and COVID 208 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: protocol or not getting vaccinated. Mac Jones won the job 209 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: and I was told that yesterday. But Cam miss in 210 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: practice is part of the reason for that. I mean, 211 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: it didn't help his case. And I wonder if a 212 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: team is going to pick up Cam Newton if he's 213 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: not going to be a starter and he's not vaccinated, 214 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: plain and simple. Now. So I think the NFL Players 215 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: Association has to look in to this just to say 216 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: to its you know, players, to the union, we have 217 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: your back. Wait, did I get cut because I wasn't vaccinated? 218 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Can they cut me because I wasn't vaccinated? Is that 219 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: the reason why it'll be hard to prove? But urban Meyer, 220 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: he spoke out loud, But I do think these other 221 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: coaches have done the same thing. All right, what's the 222 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: poll question we're going with? Final hour? Okay? So our 223 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: two was who will have a better rookie season? Are 224 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: actually who will? We're in Rookie of the Year. Who's 225 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: more likely Mac Jones or or Trevor Lawrence? Fifty seven 226 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: percent say mac Jones? All right, we do have a 227 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: back room, a back row and a front row. Bet here, Yes, No, 228 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: it's left right, left right, bet Seton and I versus 229 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Paul and Todd on Rookie of the Year. No, Paul, 230 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: he's not in. Okay, Uh, Fritzie is right, says me? 231 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: And Andrew versus Todd. Yes, we to the field, so 232 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Todd gets Mac Jones and Trevor Lawrence for Rookie of 233 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: the Year. Tony Dungee tweeted was there anything wrong with 234 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: what Urban Myers said? He said that vaccination status was 235 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: quote a factor in decisions when these rules were instituted. 236 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Did anybody in their right mind think vaccination status would 237 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: not be considered at all? Well? Yes, I'm sure they 238 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: factored it in. They just didn't know that a coach 239 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: would say it out loud. I mean, Urban Meyer's got 240 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: to understand that he has to adapt to the NFL. 241 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: And part of that is you got to play a game. 242 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: And that's what this game is. You don't tell us everything. 243 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to go BELICHICKI in where you don't 244 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: say anything. 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Today, we'll talk to some college football 294 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: here in a moment. Let me get to Nick in Irvine, 295 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: California High Nick, what's on your mind today? Hi? Dan, 296 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: You're all right? We lost you? Nick? Wow? A little 297 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: violent out of the gate there, call back Nick, see 298 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: if we can get a better phone line, or maybe 299 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: not call back. Sounded like he's in the matrix there. 300 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: So Mike Renner, Pro Football Focus, Lead draft analyst co 301 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: host of the Tailgate podcast, head over to a Pro 302 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Football PF dot com. Use the promo code PF thirty 303 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: for thirty percent off any PF subscriptions. I want to 304 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: talk about quarterbacks, but I want you to go back 305 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: to last year, though, Mike, and where was Zach Wilson 306 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: on your radar? Where was Mac Jones on your radar? 307 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: These are guys who were starting Week one in the NFL. 308 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: Because it feels like every year we happened upon somebody 309 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: and we go, where did they come from? So let's 310 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: go back to where he had Zach Wilson and Mac 311 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: Jones a year ago. There are the radar, for sure, 312 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: they were not super high on that radar though Mac 313 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Jones obviously we saw him towards the end after two 314 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: went down. There was a guy on our staff, our 315 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: college guy, Seth Galena, who said, you know, he could 316 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: end up as an actual quarterback prospect. I didn't think 317 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: he had the tools. Zach Wilson obviously had that shoulder injury, 318 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: did not have a good sophomore year. He was actually 319 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: more thought of highly as a prospect by US back 320 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: after his freshman year. So I think he kind of 321 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head here. There's like this 322 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: trend of guys coming out of nowhere, and I think 323 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: it's kind of how quarterback development has been at the 324 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: younger age nowadays. It doesn't kind of take that long, 325 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: four year starter to actually establish yourself as this real 326 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: deal quarterback prospect. I said this numerous times last season 327 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: that Mac Jones was making it look too easy the 328 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: regular seasons, just making it look too easy. And then 329 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I thought, well, okay, you got a running back first rounder, 330 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: you got offensive line first rounders, wide receivers first rounders. 331 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: Is he any good? I wasn't. I don't know if 332 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm still sure how good he is, but he there's 333 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: something to be said about how easy he made it 334 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: look last year. That is the sort of million dollar 335 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: question everyone's trying to figure out in quarterback evaluations. How 336 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: do you separate what the quarterbacks doing from what the 337 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: offense in the town around him is doing. And it's 338 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: very easy to hit guys who are wide open. A 339 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks can do that with wide open pockets 340 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: with three feet in every direction to work with. But 341 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: it's what can you do to go above and beyond that, 342 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: And we almost underrated, or a lot of people underrated 343 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: the fact that mac Jones was kind of he was 344 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: creating some of that space at his own. He would 345 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: look off linebackers, he would hold safeties, he would do 346 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the things that it's difficult to sort of quantify. And 347 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: you see a guy running wide open, sometimes that's on 348 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback for like I said, holding a safety or 349 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: getting this creating space himself. And mac Jones did that 350 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: better than any other quarterback in class last year, maybe 351 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: even if not Trevor Lawrence right up there with him. 352 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: So I think that did get underrated, and you're seeing 353 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: that in the preseason now. If the draft were held today, 354 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: the first quarterback taken absolutely positively, no doubt is there's 355 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: no Trevor Lawrence in this year's class. But to me, 356 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: it's Spencer Rattler, the Oklahoma quarterback. Obviously, Lincoln Riley develops 357 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks there as good as anyone else in the country, 358 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: and his talent is just off the charts and just 359 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: what he can do not only physically with his legs 360 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: as a runner, but just outside the pocket arm talent. 361 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: He kind of takes that sort of making ability that 362 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: everyone's looking for, that out of structure stuff that Mahomes 363 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: is known for, that Aaron Rodgers is known for. He 364 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: takes that to the extreme. He was the highest grade 365 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: quarterback by US here at PFF outside the pocket last year. 366 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: He's looking to do that almost first. He's kind of 367 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: the definition of a gen Z quarterback where the attach 368 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: SPAN's not there. He wants to break the pocket. He 369 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: wants to just start making plays, and he consistently does 370 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: it in that Oklahoma offense. Yeah, but he got bench 371 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: last year. I watched him when he started and I 372 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: was like, as I remember watching him in high school 373 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: because he had Nico Mannion, the basketball player I think 374 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: was on his high school football team. Like they He 375 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this guy is awesome. And then he 376 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: goes to Oklahoma and I'm thinking he ain't awesome. He 377 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: became better a lot better last year. But see that's 378 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: just it. I it's it's rolling the dice. If if 379 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: you would have said at the beginning of last year 380 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: that guy is going to be the first quarterback take 381 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: and I would have went got talent, I don't know 382 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: if he's going to be consistent enough. That's the thing. 383 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: It's at this point. These guys aren't to the level 384 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. They're not to the level of even 385 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: Justin Fields was coming into his last year of college. 386 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: But the talent is there, and that's kind of what 387 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: you're based off of. It's the things that he's kind 388 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: of doing and excelling at you can't really teach, and 389 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: the sort of inside the pock gets staying within structure, 390 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: you can develop that more. You can't develop a guy 391 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: to throw at fifty yards on a dime running to 392 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: his right, which we've seen Ratleed do multiple times. Okay, 393 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: so Spencer rat La at Oklahoma. The second quarterback off 394 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: the board if the draft were today, would be Sam 395 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: holl North Carolina. Another guy who's very talented. I mean, 396 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: he might have the strong's arm in the country. Him 397 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: or Malik Wills from Liberty right up there. They both 398 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: have throws in their tape that are, you know, sixty 399 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: plus yards and not super skyballs. He's throwing it on 400 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: the line almost physically looks like Baker Mayfield's just a 401 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: shade over six foot about two fifteen, can make some 402 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: plays as a runner. But that North Carolina offense, why 403 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: we're not kind of putting them in that. You know 404 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: that conversation of Trevor Lawrence like a sure fire lock 405 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: number one is that threw more RPOs than anyone else 406 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: in the country. Last year. He threw more goball, say, 407 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: one else in the country and not that not saying 408 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: that he won't have to do those at the NFL level, 409 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: but those are one read basically not having to do 410 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: quarterback e things. It's just armed talent at that point. 411 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: So the armed talent's there, physical tools are there to 412 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: end up as a numbe overall pick. It's just we 413 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: need to see him actually operating offense there at North 414 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: Carolina more all right, the third quarterback off the board 415 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: is here's where it gets a little Harry. I think 416 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: those two are the top two. Clearly the guy I 417 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: like as a third quarterback off the board as the 418 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: kaya guy touched on just there, Malik Willison, Liberty Trey 419 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Lance goes number three overall this past year basically based 420 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: off of what he can do physically, not much sort 421 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: of polished as a quarterback. Not much sort of even 422 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: experience as a quarterback. Trey Lance. That's kind of Malik 423 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Willis at Liberty. He was a former Auburn guy lost 424 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: out to bone Nix, but he said might have strongest 425 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: arm in the country and is the best runner in 426 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: the country. He had over a thousand yards rushing last year, 427 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: is six foot two, twenty five and runs a four 428 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: to five like. He had more broken tackles than a 429 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: lot of the running backs drafted last year. This guy 430 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: could be a running back in the NFL if he 431 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: wanted to. Would be a probably third fourth rounder if 432 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: you just wanted to play that. And that's going to 433 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: play so much and has been playing so much with 434 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: guys like Colin Murray, Lamar Jackson, how it impacts defenses. 435 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: So I do think that even if Molik Wils doesn't 436 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: necessarily develop too much as a passer, just what he 437 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: can do from a rushing perspective is going to show 438 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: him get him drafted highly him. He's Mike Runner, the 439 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus lead draft to analyst. Let me throw 440 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: out a couple other names. JT. Daniels at Georgia high 441 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: on him, not yet. He will go back and watch 442 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati, and so he comes in end of last year. 443 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: I think he played five games. I want to say 444 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: the first few electric I mean, he's bombing it down 445 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: the football field. But then you watch him go up 446 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: against a good defense, so he didn't actually face any 447 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: of the top sort of competition in the SEC. When 448 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: he does come in, plays a good defense in Cincinnati, 449 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: and basically he doesn't know when to stop taking chances 450 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: with the football head. One of the highest average depths 451 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: of target of any quarterback in college football last year, 452 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: over twelve yards down the football field. He's just throwing 453 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: almost willy nilly, and you see that in the bowl 454 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: game where he's just taken all these bad chances and 455 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: necessarily not really reading the defenses first. So still too early, 456 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: i'd say for him, But he was the He was 457 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: QB three in that class behind Trevor Lawrence and Just 458 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: Fields coming out of high school. Obviously a massively talented dude. 459 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: But we just need to see a more consistent quarterback 460 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: this year. Keeton Slovis at USC. I don't think he 461 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: does a great arm, but I think he's really accurate. 462 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, and he's got good size, so I 463 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: think six two sixty three. What do you think of Slovis. Yeah, 464 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: he's the guy that needs that Mac Jones sort of 465 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: leap to basically playing perfect football because no one's going 466 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: to draft him first overall based off of what he 467 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: brings the table physically. And he's that the arm is 468 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: not great, but you know, Joe Burrow's arm wasn't great 469 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: and you went number one overall. But what it is 470 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: not great? You have to play flawless. You have to 471 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: not make mistakes with the football, and I think that's 472 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: what Slovis has just done too much of at this point. 473 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Throw the ball the other team's basically missing linebackers, missing 474 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: reads and that sort of thing that you can't do. 475 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: But he does have the sort of the processing ability. 476 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: You see him get to his check downs quickly. You 477 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: see him get your second reads very quickly. He has 478 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: that ability, but just too many sort of bone headed 479 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: plays so far. I know Carson Strong at Nevada that 480 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: he lives up to his name. You know he's a 481 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: big kid, but he's at Nevada. How did somebody whose 482 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: maybe a first round draft pick end up at Nevada. 483 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: I actually haven't looked too much into his quarter background 484 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: why he ended up there, But it is surprising because 485 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: not only is he, you know, playing good football's quarterback position, 486 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: he's got a cannon and he's got a very esthetically 487 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: pleasing release. It's like kind of like Aaron Rodgers release 488 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: where it's just like it's quick, it looks like the 489 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: way a football should be thrown. That's Carson Strong, and 490 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: so I think he could end up in that first 491 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: round conversation. Obviously played exceptionally well last year, has a 492 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: pretty good wide receiver out there in Romeo Dubs who 493 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: could be in the first Strong conversation as well. That 494 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna play some real build competition this year. I 495 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: believe he plays Boys State early on, plays Calay, Yeah, 496 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: plays some play some actual D one competition after not 497 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: playing any excuse the Power five competition after not playing 498 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: any last year. But Carson Strong, I think he had 499 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: the most completions of anyone and by far that came 500 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: fifty plus yards down field last year and had the 501 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: farthest throw in the country from start to finish, seventy 502 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: yards from his hand to wear the ball ended up 503 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: of any quarterback in the country last year. I'll throw 504 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: out another one it's only because the scalp told me 505 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: about him. Kenny Pickett at Pittsburgh. Kenny Pickett, he's got 506 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of guys with cannons in this draft. 507 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: Last not a guy, and a lot of guys who 508 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: are polished. Though he is all over the place with 509 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: his accuracy so far, like he'll he'll have throws that 510 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: are just I mean gorgeous, gorgeous throws. He reminds me 511 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the guy who might be starting for 512 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: the Culture, Jacob Eason back at Washington, where it's just like, man, 513 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: that is forty yard laser post and then the next 514 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: one is a bubble screen that's sailed over a guy's head. 515 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: So pick it has the physical ability, but man, he 516 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: is accuracy issues for days. You got some good games 517 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Will we see a surprise in 518 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: college football? I mean you'll definitely see a surprise. If 519 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: you ask me to predict a surprise. That is not 520 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: my forte I am. I am not the best prognosticator, 521 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: but my upset pick if there is any upset pick, 522 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: I think Georgia comes out. George is my one of 523 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: my national championship picks. I think they come out and 524 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: put it to Clemson because this is the most talented 525 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: defense in the country right now. And yeah, Clemson's ranked three, 526 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: George's ranked five, but I think on a neutral field, 527 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: give me Georgia and that one. Mike, good to talk 528 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: to you. We'll be talking to you during the season. 529 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for sure. Thanks for having me 530 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: on Dan. Have you going? That's Mike Renner Hope Football 531 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Focus lead draft analysts. I will say that Mike does 532 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: make me feel better about about Mike questions when I go, 533 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: who's your upset special this weekend? Like he gives it 534 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: great thought. I appreciate that. By the way, as strange 535 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: as this is going to sound, of all the games 536 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: this weekend, and you got Penn State Wisconsin, you got Alabama, Miami, Indiana, Iowa, Georgia, Clemson, 537 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State plays Minnesota Thursday night. I'm interested in Louisiana 538 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: versus Texas. Good call. I'm really interested in Louisiana, not LSU. 539 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: LSU's got Ucla, but Louisiana against Texas because the clock 540 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: starts chicking on Steve Sarksian, He's got a three year 541 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: window here at Texas. Louisiana is a top twenty five team. Yeah, Paul, 542 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: your raging cages are getting eight points from Texas Entertainment 543 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: purposes only money line. Yeah, it's tricky when you're trying 544 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: to handicap these quarterbacks. Because of all those quarterbacks that 545 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: we mentioned, there will probably be another quarterback that comes 546 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: out of nowhere and you'll go, wait, where did he 547 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: come from? How long has he been a starter? Because 548 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: if you said to me Zach Wilson at the beginning 549 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: of the year a year ago, hey, he's gonna go 550 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: number two overall, I go, Okay, I didn't see enough 551 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: enough consistency. I knew he was highly thought of, but 552 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, we didn't even 553 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: know if he's going to start or not at b YU. Yeah, mclub. Yeah. 554 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Two eleven touchdowns and nine picks as a sophomore at BYU. 555 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe he was on it. How could he 556 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: be on any with radar with those numbers, don't I 557 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Mike's like, yeah, he was on our radar. 558 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I think you have to say that. Yeah, 559 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: we knew about him. Yeah, it's like Ben Volan covers 560 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots for the Boston Globe, and he said what 561 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of us probably thought but didn't say 562 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: or wouldn't say, and that is I thought that Cam 563 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: Newton was going to be the starter. He covers the Patriots. 564 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: So when all these analysts go, yeah, but I could 565 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: see this one coming. No, no, no, you didn't, or 566 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: you would have said. Tom Curran came out and he said, here, 567 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: this is a no brainer. He should be don't be surprised. 568 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: But he didn't know. And nobody knew Cam Newton was 569 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: going to be released. But when when you say, yeah, 570 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: that guy he was on our radar, all right, Mac 571 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: mac Jones was on your radar. I don't know. Yeah, Paul, 572 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm hearing that mclovin has a college quarterback crush, a 573 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: guy who thinks is a nobody who will be a 574 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: somebody in four months. Well, the team is hearing rumblakes. 575 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: No no, I asked, Yeah, I want to bet, Paul, 576 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I want a quarterback. Bet. Okay, I will give him 577 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: PFF's number two quarterbacks. Sam Howell, how about we take 578 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 1: a break. Okay, all right, yes, take a break. We 579 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: have to find out what's at stake because we just 580 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: don't make bets on this show. There's always there's always repercussions, injury, embarrassment, humiliation, 581 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: or a ply to the face. Well, take a break. 582 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: Mclovin's big bet coming up next. Thanks for listening to 583 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 584 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 585 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 586 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 587 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 588 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 589 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: with Jason McIntyre. 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So much for putting me 599 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: back Dan past tag Hall of Famer. That's so awesome. 600 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: I retired two weeks ago after twenty eight years as 601 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: a litigator in California. And let me just try to 602 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: shed a little light, which is, you have a right 603 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: to get married to who you want as long as 604 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: you're two consenting adults. That's a civil right that changed recently. 605 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: If you're a person of two different races and you 606 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: want to get married. That happened in the Love Case 607 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: in the fifties that made a movie about it. You 608 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: have a right to vote. You do not have a 609 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: civil right to housing or working. People think that maybe 610 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: you do, but you don't. And so you have a 611 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: right not to have the vaccine. You have the right 612 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: to get sick and die. You don't have a right 613 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: to any medical care. That's not a civil right. Actually, 614 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: so I hope you have assurance. But you don't have 615 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: a right to work. And if you if what you 616 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: are doing fought, it's a risk far outweighs your your 617 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: otherwise legal right to works on a civil right, but 618 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: a legal right to work. In other words, you can't 619 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: get fired for the wrong reason, and that reason becomes 620 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: the right reason. So when the government starts telling its 621 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: employees you can't come to work unless you're unless you're vaccinated, 622 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: it's like all full speed ahead. So what's going on? 623 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: And what urban Meyer said, Uh, he's he's you know, 624 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: he's telling the truth. And yeah, I mean if he wins, Dan, 625 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: if urban Meyer wins, he's gonna be able to say 626 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: whatever he wants. But if he's you know, I know 627 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: it's a big business. But urban Meyers that telling the truth, 628 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, And I got that, Thank you, Nick. Urban 629 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: Meyer told the truth. That part of the reason why, 630 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: or you know, one of the reasons why he could 631 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: have cut somebody who was they weren't vaccinated. Uh. I 632 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard another coach say that, but 633 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: you did hear that from him, And I think that 634 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: that's why the NFL Players Association is looking into that. 635 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: The quarterback bet between mclovin and Polly. All right, MCLOVINU, 636 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: what are the stakes? Are we talking a pie to 637 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: the face three two pies to the face, I get 638 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. This is a debate. Okay, let me Paully 639 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: has to agree to it for okay, all right, give 640 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: us the bet. Polly mischaracterizes. It's not a guy who's 641 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. It's the two guys that Mike Renner 642 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: was talking about in the last segment. He has Spencer 643 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: rather one than Sam Howell. I'll give to Paully. Then 644 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: I get the third guy he mentioned, Malik Willis out 645 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: of Liberty. But since he's third, I get another one. 646 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: So I will say Malik Willis and my other guy 647 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: go higher than Sam Howell or my other guy. Does 648 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: that make sense? Well, who's the other guy I want 649 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: to take, by slightly surprise, Matt Corrall out of Mississippi, 650 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: who's like kind of in the fifteen to thirty range 651 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of mock drafts, okay, and Malik Willis 652 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: is about top ten a lot of mocks. But Sam 653 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: Howell's one or two. So I say, Howell, I say 654 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: that Malik Willis or Matt Corrall go. One of those 655 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: two guys goes high than Sam Howell. All right, well 656 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: you want to respond, I would respond, Danum, I would 657 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: take this bet. I feel pretty good about Sam Howell unc. 658 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: But if I lose, I get one pie. Mccleven loses. 659 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: He gets too because he gets two quarterbacks. Would that 660 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: be fair. Yes it is, McLevin. Are you willing to accept? Yeah, 661 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: that's fair. Okay, And this is good. I love draft 662 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: bets like set and I had a great one a 663 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: few years ago because it gives you something to watch 664 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: for it for six months. Yeah, I thought I had 665 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: a decent bet with you. I think it was after 666 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's freshman year and I said he won't be 667 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: taking number one overall. You kind of took the field. Yes, 668 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: I did take the fields. Always is always agays, I 669 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: did take the field. It's unlike most guys don't go 670 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: wire to wire. Yeah, yes, Sam Howe's interesting because, yeah, 671 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: he at UNC, he has to overcome the trubisky stink, 672 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: which is still kind of around even though truissy. He's 673 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: not a true bust. But then he's got the beefiness 674 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: of like a He's like Baker Mayfield with about twelve 675 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: extra pounds of muscle. Got good hair which is really 676 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: big for draft day. Great hair. I think he had 677 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: a beard in high school. Yeah. I remember watching a 678 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: high school game with him and and he was he 679 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: was sort of a running back at quarterback. It was 680 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: a bruising back. Help ho UNC's got a friendly schedule. 681 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: A lot of people expect them to do better this year. 682 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: They got Miami on October sixteenth and Notre Dame at 683 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame October thirtieth, big weekends for his heisman pushing Yes, 684 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: m Yeah, runner put me over the top. I had 685 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: no idea Malik Willis ran like that Today's NFL. That's 686 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: that's your guy, a running quarterback, right. But I don't 687 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: know if playing at Liberty hurts him. Yeah, because we 688 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: don't know how good and where did Liberty come from 689 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: as far as a football power, Like is it real? 690 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. They beat Coastal Carolina and there the 691 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: other out of that was another one where you go, 692 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: it was such a strange year last year where you're going. 693 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you looked at if you looked at 694 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: the rankings, I didn't tell you what year it was 695 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: or what sport it was, you'd probably go, is this basketball? 696 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 1: Is Liberty got a good basketball team? Coastal Carolina they've 697 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: been in the NCAA before. Yeah, pol So, your Liberty 698 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: Flames have a lot of money behind them lately, and 699 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: they're trying to schedule bigger games. They played teams like 700 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: old Dominion and Campbell. But then they've got Syracuse at Syracuse, 701 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: They've got Middle Tennessee, which is even that bad. They've 702 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: got North Texas. They have Old Miss at Old Miss, 703 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: you got to go there, and they play Army at home, 704 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: so that could be a showdown Matt Coral and they 705 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: have a Hugh Freeze is their coach, so that and 706 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: he brings a lot of a lot of interesting stuff 707 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: with them, and a lot of heat sometimes, yeah, a 708 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of yeah. So I don't know final results of 709 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: the poll question who's gonna have who has a better 710 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: chance of winning Rookie of the Year, Mac Jones or 711 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence mac Jones. I'm a little surprised. I thought 712 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: Trevor was gonna win that one. Well, to be tricky 713 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: on the numbers that are put up and the successive 714 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: and I think if mac Jones gets the Patriots into 715 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs, then he's going to be your Rookie of 716 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: the Year because I don't I don't know how they 717 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: get in if he doesn't perform well, Now it's his job. 718 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: And given that offense, where you have tight ends, you'll utilize, 719 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: you got running backs, You've got a good offensive line. 720 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: He's there's built in success there. If you're a rookie 721 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: quarterback or second year quarterback, third year quarterback, you want 722 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: to have those pieces in place. I'm not thrilled with 723 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, the tight ends. You can use both 724 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: of them. You've got a lot of running backs, and 725 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: it's a good offensive line. It's a good place to start. 726 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: And if you have an offensive coordinator who was there 727 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: for most of Tom Brady's run, you should be able 728 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: to plug him in and say this is what we 729 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: did with Tom. But I think that that is the 730 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: smarter pick, the safer pick, and the more consistent pick 731 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: by taking mac Jones. Do I think you know Cam's 732 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: always the wild card? Yes, you know you got a 733 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: quarterback who can rush for twelve touchdowns. The problem is 734 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: he can't throw for twelve touchdowns. So he can give it, 735 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: but he also take it away. Yes. Do you put 736 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson in that rookie conversation? Well you have to. 737 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be behind, You're gonna get a 738 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: lot of throws. I just want to know how good 739 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: is the offensive line going to be good? That's why 740 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: when whenever we talk about skill position, and offensive coordinator 741 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: and scheme. And what did the Super Bowl come down to? 742 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes didn't have a good offensive line. So the 743 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: can't miss surefire Hall of Fame, great quarterback, a couple 744 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: of great weapons, offensive minded head coach, and what happened. 745 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: The offensive line wasn't any good. If you don't have that, 746 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You can have all those skill position players, 747 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: but if you're on your back, they ain't getting the 748 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: ball as great as Mahomes is. And that's what Tampa knew. 749 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: They're like, let's just go get him. And that was 750 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: the difference in the Super Bowl. Let's go around the room. 751 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: What we learned on this program. Toddle will start with you. 752 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: Bill Belchick won't rank the level of emotional difficulty in 753 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: cutting Cam Newton or any player for that matter. Mclovin, 754 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: John Casey got struck out by two Hall of famers. 755 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: By the way Bill Belichick quotes, I don't twitter, I 756 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: don't face my face, I don't year book. To live 757 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: in the past is to die in the present. We'll 758 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: worry about next week. Next week. 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