WEBVTT - Draft Show: Final Thoughts & Looking to 2018 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:10.080 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys are 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.800 war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.599 within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:23.680 Dallas Cowboys Selectikie Elliott, and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.800 David Hellman and Brian brought us what we're like gum 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.240 on your shoe. Can't get rid of us yet. Welcome 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.440 to the Draft Show. It's almost as good as you're 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.239 Thomas Paine. You like to Thomas Bay, Yeah, like that one. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.920 I had to go with that one. Brian brought us 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.880 Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, Executive producer. Welcome back 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.440 to the final episode of the Draft Show. It has 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.400 been a interesting journey, to say the least. We had 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.400 our three day coverage of the NFL Draft. I want 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:59.360 to thank everybody that listened commented all those things. It 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.959 was very, very positive. It's very nice to hear from 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.480 the fans that they enjoyed our coverage. That and I 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.480 went back and you know, I'm this big body's trying 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.640 to get back in running shape again because we got 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.039 some half marathon we're supposed to do before the Kansas 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.920 City game in November, so I've got to find a 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.120 way to muster it up one more time. But I 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.520 went back and listened to Yeah, six months, we'll work 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:28.080 on that. But I went back and listened to the draft, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.679 the actual draft itself, you know, with with our coverage, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.680 and I thought it was an entertaining when you're when 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.000 you're doing it, you're really not thinking about it, you know, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.320 you're not, You're just kind of reacting to what's happening. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.800 And I'm going, man, there's a lot of good information 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.920 going on here, a lot of discussion, a lot of 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.680 you know, cowboy angles. We got the trade back in 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.600 on day three that we were trying to, you know, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.880 talk about how that was going to happen. But that 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.200 was just a lot of fun. That was that was 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.480 three days of fun. And I yeah, and someone goes, yeah, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.200 you were on the radio for eighteen hours whatever, and 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.480 it didn't even seem like And even when it got 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.720 down to the end, it didn't seem like it because 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.560 then we had mister Irrelevant with Chad Kelly and all that. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.200 So there was still a storyline even with the very 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.440 last pick, you know, and maybe this draft more so 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.359 than any of the other ones we've done. I feel 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:28.720 like we were we were better prepared, and therefore the audience, 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.920 I hope was better prepared. I think this draft had 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.920 the fewest number of curveballs, like every single guy, maybe 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.880 with the exception of Ivy and Carol, who were your 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.720 last two pits. But the big names were guys that 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.519 we thoroughly discussed and thoroughly vetted on this show, all 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.560 of them going all the way from Taco Shadobe. Even 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.920 I mean Lewis maybe wasn't on our radar as much 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.160 as other guys, but we covered him at the Senior Bowl. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.760 We talked about him pretty thoroughly with the off field stuff. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.560 So yeah, you know, even thinking back a couple of years, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.240 obviously we joke all the time about Swain kind of 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.240 came out of nowhere. Ryan Russell was a guy that 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.079 I don't remember being on our radar as much as others, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.919 but this one, like, I felt like this was as 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.359 prepared as I've ever been for the picks that they 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.040 wound up making, whether it's Xavier Woods or even again 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.919 even Ryan Switzer, who not a guy that's super high 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.600 on your radar, but definitely a guy that we talked. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.359 I was a surprise though, you know that, Yeah, that 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.040 was the first you know, they chose to go the 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.360 direction that they did in the first and second round. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.440 I mean, I think that we were surprised that Rivers 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:44.640 was still on the board at sixty in bash them 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.680 on the board, whether you want to be or not, Like, yeah, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.800 officially you're in the camp Like now, oh, I am 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.760 in that camp where when I think I've got the 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.480 I've got the I've got the tent up and the 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.600 fire out front. When I think about the twenty seventeen draft, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.280 I'm gonna be like, all right, let's see how Kevin 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.880 King Derek were absolutely albash and pan out. Absolutely, that's 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.680 what the alternative reality could have been. See that that 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.120 to me, and you know, they brought guys in and 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.960 what we've learned. What we've learned is, you know, there's 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.000 some guys that they brought in and just because they 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.960 brought them in, you know, they alerted us. It said 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.800 Stephen Jones, Hey, don't don't feel like because we brought 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.760 these guys in that we were going to select them. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.640 I mean, I feel like, though we go back with McDowell, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.520 Malik McDowell right, kind of getting a vibe that the 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.680 interview process with Malik McDowell didn't go well while you 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.280 bring them in. Yeah, Tankers Lee was another one. We 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.880 were cheerleading for Tankers Lely a little bit. I'll be 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.000 completely honest, and that you know, we've been doing this 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.320 for a while, so you know, me at Kulpa, that's 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.839 on me for not really putting that together. But the 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.440 thought really didn't cross my mind that you're gonna hate 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.880 some of these guys you bring in on thirty visits, right, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.120 They're not all going to knock again. Yeah, that's that's 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.520 I think a very valuable lesson that we learned that 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.360 the thirty visits are important because you look at you 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.159 look at you look at who they drafted. Taco was 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:07.719 a thirty visit, a Woozier, a thirty visit, Lewis, thirty 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:13.560 visit Switzer. No that Xavier was though, but Xavier was 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.640 Ye was in consideration at one thirty three. Yeah, so exactly. So, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.960 you know, it's it's kind of a guidepost for what 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.200 they were doing. It's a great guide post. But it's funny, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.400 you know, it's funny to sit here and think, you know, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.880 we talked about Tanker's leave a lot leading up to 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.120 and a lot during the draft because he fell so 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.360 far and we're like, hey, this this could be it 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.479 because he's a thirty visit and there they they didn't 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.920 want him, clearly taught me. Taught me into potentially pouring 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.760 water on my fire and packing up my tent. About 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.599 those first two picks, you know you were I'm under 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.200 the oppression that I felt like that Lewis will probably 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.479 be a better player than a Woozier. That's me. I 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.799 just feel like watching the tape that you know, that's 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.640 the one question, Taco. You know, Okay, I get it, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.520 I get what they were doing right, But the Woozier 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.800 pick is the one that's kind of got me. And 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.800 I'm glad they came back with the Lewis pick because 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.360 I feel like that, you know, we might see Lewis 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.120 playing and a Woozier being an inactive guy. Well, what 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.080 do we talk about when a Woozier was drafted, was 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.800 he's a great nickel. You know, he can play a 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.559 little safety, he can play outside corner, but nickel really 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.480 is where he could fit best as splitzer as you 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.960 know that versatile athleticism that he has. And then they 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.920 come back in the third and get Jordan Lewis, who 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.080 better even better nickel. Yeah, probably the best nickel in 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.680 this draft. So what does that mean for a Woozier? 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.120 The fact that he can play safety, the fact that 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.400 you know you're willing to try and put your best 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.400 four or five six defensive backs on the field, and 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.960 a Woozia is one of those guys. So it's just 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.640 how do they mix and match? How do they get 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.680 their best four or five on the field at one time? 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.400 Because they're going to run a lot of sub package. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.960 It doesn't really matter if these guys start, No, the 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.320 starting part of it, it's it's it's if you're on 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.839 the forty six, what are you doing right? Well? I 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.120 think that start stat can be a little deceiving because 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.640 so much of what the Cowboys run will be subpackage, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.320 will be nickel, absolutely, and so it's percentage of snaps 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.480 plate that is the more important stat here. And like 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.120 I said, I think when they try to get your 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.520 best five defensive backs out there, a Woozier will be 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.640 one of them. How do you but how where does 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.560 he line up? And? Yeah, how do they use them 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.640 that that would be the key. It's interest. I mean 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.559 that extends to the entire defensive back deepth chart. Really, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.640 Like I was talking about this with Right. You know, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.680 you know your football team. How do they line up that? 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.560 I don't know. It's baffling because literally all of their 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.120 corners now, like what he just said about a Woozier 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.320 and Lewis like, you can play outside and shift a 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.840 little bit, probably best at Nickel. Doesn't that describe like 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.119 every single corner on the Endrick, Yeah, that's Scandrick's bag. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.640 We know Carol can do it. We saw Brown can 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.920 do it as well. Like I don't know how to 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.000 project who's gonna be where when the season starts. I 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.800 would guess. I would guess that they'll give Carol a 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.160 shot at one of the outside jobs because of what 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.880 they're paying him and his veteran experience. I guessed despite 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.280 what Dane just said, I guessed a Woozier as an 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.840 outside corner first, because they said they want to start 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.200 him on the outside because the easiest place to start. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.200 Top of that, he's now the biggest corner on the 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.600 team right Physically, he's got that Brandon Carr type of 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.200 build where he can deal with those outside guys. Um, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:25.920 but I don't know. And then but then you think 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.520 about if you talk about a Woozier and Lewis, if 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.600 they're both good enough to play right away, all of 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.080 a sudden, Anthony Brown, who were also high on, is 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.199 like your fourth or fifth corner. That's crazy, Like I 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.280 don't really know how it all shakes out. That is 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.840 really their biggest corner. He's six one two o two 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.760 I think, or he's just shy of six one, he's 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.160 just shive six foot. He's just six foot okay that 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.120 even still oh they play was short. But yeah even 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.480 at five okay, even if I thought he was six foot, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.679 even at five eleven two o two, he's still like 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.280 their stockist guy. I mean, Anthony Brown weighs like right 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.640 right buck eighty and five or Scandrick is you know 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.640 Scandricks on the shorter side. He's I mean, he's certainly 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.400 one of their two biggest corners right now. Yeah, that's 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.240 it's you know, you back to what kind of you 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.000 were talking about, how curveballs and we didn't really we 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.200 weren't thrown off by a lot. When you look at 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.040 their draft, they drafted nine players really only three positions 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.920 defensive backs, wide receivers, defensive line. Oh but we thought that, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.880 didn't we go in And that's why we were kind 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.800 of thinking there might be there might be a running 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.400 back in there possible. We thought that maybe the bits 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.040 are kind of pills that he fits that bill of 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.120 what we were looking for though, like he's not gonna 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.400 line up at running back, but he kind of fits 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.120 that bill. As I asked somebody that was in the 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.160 war roomaget back on that day three, I asked him 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.760 about Pumphrey was in the discussion and then he went 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.920 to Philadelphia. I mean he was in the discussion with Switzer. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.319 They kind of said that, yeah, they were, they didn't 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.200 know what to do, and then Philly made it easy 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.080 for Yeah, they were there. But the discussion that Pumphrey 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.560 was potentially the fact that didn't the react action we 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.679 didn't see there in the Ford Center warroom camp, the 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.760 fact that they didn't react when pump Like nobody just 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.160 went ballistic when Pumphrey was picked. They had an idea 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.200 of what they wanted to do. Sorry, go ahead, I 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.600 was just gonna I think Switzer fits them, Like I said, 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.040 he fits the bill of a lot of what we're 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.920 talking about. But would you rather have Pumphrey just because 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.720 he kind of he legitimately can address two positions, well 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.959 three if you count return. Well, Dane will argue with 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.480 me that we haven't seen him as a returner. We haven't. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.360 That's facts that that is true. Give me the get 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.160 i've seen. Now, we've seen him at the Senior Bowl. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.600 I mean, we've seen him work, you know, pro team 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.400 work him in the drills and stuff, look comfortable doing it. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.680 But we've seen, oh, I've seen Ryan Switzer as a returner. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.600 And Stephen Jones said the same thing after the draft 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.480 was over, and I think I tried to I asked 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.040 him about it. He didn't really give me the answer 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.320 I wanted. But I think that extends to their entire draft. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.840 Like with the needs that they had, this entire draft 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.680 was about give me the guy that I've seen do 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.920 it on tape. I'll, you know, give me the less 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.160 athletic Oh that's why the T. J. Watson. Give me 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.240 the less athletic end who has played end his whole career, 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.560 as opposed to the guy who maybe is a good 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.199 end but has never played it before. It's really interesting 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.440 that they've kind of gone away from what we thought 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.080 that this front office was kind of trending towards, you know, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.400 spark in the athletic profiles, and you know, they went 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:30.320 with the football character, right guys. You know, the less 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.120 questions give us the better football players, maybe not as 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.560 much upside as some other players. So that part's interesting. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.760 I did want to ask you about this wide receiver 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:44.760 depth chart of these four receivers. Do you think all 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:49.200 four will make the roster at a training camp? Between 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:55.160 Noah Brown, Switzer, Lucky Whitehead, and Butler. See that's where 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.800 I don't think they're married to the last two. I 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.000 don't think they're married to Lucky, and I don't think 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.280 they're married to Butler. Oh there's well, I mean logic 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.480 and you know, just crunching the numbers tells you they're 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.320 not married to him. Lucky he's got a year left 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.160 on an undrafted deal, and Butler's one year. It's basically 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.400 making he's thinking a little more than VET minimum, but 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.080 not a substantial amount of money at all. And Noah 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.760 browns a seventh rounder or you know, a late round pick. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.520 So it's not like they're married necessarily to him, but 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.920 I think they depending on what he shows in training camp. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:27.960 You know, I don't think it'd be a shock if 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.120 they kept Noah Brown over a white head or Butler 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.000 let me. I kind of look at Noah Brown like 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.160 they did with Cavon Frasier, right, you know, I look 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.240 at him and old guy. Yeah, I think they keep 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.160 me him spreadshirt. Yeah, if he's not good, he's your 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.800 fifty third. I could see. Maybe I could, and it's 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.960 sneaking him through. Might not be. I'm saying that right now. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.880 I think I could see them keeping six receivers for 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.840 that very reason, and I don't think it would be 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.280 that hard to do based on two quarterbacks, just that 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.200 you got. I don't think you're going to carry a 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.160 third quarterback. I think they're gonna go light on offensive 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.800 line like they like to do. Your linebacker depth charts 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.640 pretty much set today as far as I'm concerned. I've 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.160 kind of I've been looking at this, and there's ways 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.520 to do it. If you really if you really feel 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.680 like you're not comfortable leaning on Brown as a rookie 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.440 and you don't want to let Butler go or whatever, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.480 I think you could do six receivers on this team 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.320 if you really had to, or you know, between between 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.080 Noah Brown and Andy Jones, one of those guys you 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.760 can sneak through the bell. Andy Andy Jones is the 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.360 one guy that has been here. Yeah, he's the one 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.760 guy that they they understand. Andy Jones had a darned 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.000 good chance of making this football team last year and 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.400 then he the very end, he hit the rookie wall 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.720 and couldn't finish the deal. Who's better Noah Brown Randy Jones? 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.560 I take Noah Brown myself. I'm and this happens everything. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.280 I've seen Noah Brown play a bunch. I like Noah Brown. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.520 I I went on they guess say on. I was 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.640 on Sean and RJ on one oh five three and 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.640 I said something about the route running. How a big 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.120 body lee. He remind me of Dez Bryant running those 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.120 those inside routes and stuff like, that's all you have 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.800 and that's and that's what people. Yeah, they picked that up, 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.719 of course they did. Nationally picked that up. That's okay. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.440 He's a big body guy running routes, very physical, very physical. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.080 That's that's why that's why City reminded me of Dez Bryant. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.960 I don't think he'll be better than Bryce and Butler 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.560 by the end of training camp, but I think his 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.640 up he's tough, for his upside is just yeah, freaking 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.280 his hell, which is why I would not. I mean, 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.480 we'll see how training camp shakes out. Maybe he has 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.240 five nine guy I wouldn't. I wouldn't cut this guy. No, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.120 he was supposed to be. He was supposed to be 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.400 the guy at Ohio State last year or two fifteen. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.120 Broke his leg in the summer, so he missed all 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.040 of two fifteen, came back this year. At Ohio State offense, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.800 the passing on the quarterback was awful. I'm not sure 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.280 how much it was. I mean, j T. Bart was 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.480 definitely part of the problem. Part of it was the 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.720 offensive line. I think part of it was on Noah 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.680 Brown when you watched the film and he just wasn't 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.760 getting open consistently. I mean, it was everyone involved. So 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.720 now seeing Noah Brown here in an NFL training camp, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.760 eager to see how he responds to that. I think 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.120 you're right about needing almost a red shirt year miss 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.760 a player who was a red shirt sophomore at Ohio 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.840 State probably only one season of experience, so he's I 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.280 don't think he's quite ready to face you know, he 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.080 is very physical. I don't think he's ready to face 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.800 press NFL corners on a consistent basis. Like to see 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.080 if he bullies to these guys in training camp. I 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.200 think it battles, because what will happen is Dez Bryant 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.320 will take a liking to this kid because he looks 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.520 like him. He does, he looks he looks like Dez. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:40.200 He's a six three two twenty pound guy, and Dez 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.520 will take and this kid will watch Dez get violent 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.800 with these corners, and these corners will fight him back, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.280 you know, and and and all of a sudden, Noah 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:51.880 Brown will be a guy. It's like, whoa, I can 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.960 I can get away with this. I can bully these 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.960 guys a little bit. I can just and I'm calling 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.840 my shot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can just see 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.600 during the season when you do your inactives on Friday, 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.200 he's an inactive the guy he's in slot number one 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.040 as ye like, I'm he's too good to let go. Oh, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.960 I understand. I would be impressed if he if he 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.680 really earns a significant role, right, so you know, and 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.840 it's it would just project fifty three. I mean, just 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.800 if you had to, if you had to bet right now, 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.680 fifty three on the fifty three. Brown, Yeah, no, Brown, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.480 I think so. Yeah, I think so. Because he's not 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:26.920 going to make it on the practice squad some of 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.440 the team I think would scoop him up. Um. But yeah, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.200 I do think he'll make the fifty three. And I 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.800 think this team carries six receivers and like I said, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.360 a minute, it's interesting. I mean two quarterbacks probably four 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.240 running backs, eight linemen. Maybe you get away with three 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:43.880 tight ends to help you out with that if you 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.720 want to, depending on James Hanns. No, actually I take 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.240 that back. They have to carry four tight ends. Yeah, yeah, No, 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.640 I think I think Rico makes the fifty three. This 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.520 we're not talking about this Marquez White at all. No, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.280 he is. And see that's what that's is the forgotten man. Yeah, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.600 you could. You could go a lot of different directions 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.720 with this draft class, and then all of a sudden 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.800 you look down there at pick two, sixteen in the 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.159 sixth round, and nobody's talking about this guy. Anytime I 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.200 have to list the picks off or getting I'm like, wow, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.840 who was that, Oh, Mark Quaiz White, That's right, like 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.080 every single time. But and I think he's a good 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.600 player too. It's it's not fair to him. Just I think, well, 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.760 I just in the sixth round though, I think we 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.359 had him on our one oh five three board in 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.720 the fifth and I think we were a little high 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:33.199 on him. Yeah, I'm just to me. I just I 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.560 had more negative notes than I did positive notes about him. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.280 He's a traits prospects. I mean, you're drafting for the 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.719 traits and you want to develop those traits. I mean, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.840 he's a foreign basketball player. Watch him be the best 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.800 corner out of this group. Hey, if he does Anthony Brown, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.600 that would actually probably that would make their life a 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.680 living hell because then you're talking about you know, I mean, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.800 you can cut a sixth round pick, but if he's 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.080 out playing guys that you spent, that you invested in, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.760 that's I mean, that's I'm worried about. Was he a 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.680 I am worried about I'm worried about him in what respect. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.360 I think he's a good player, but I don't know 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.040 if he could be a great player that I mean, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.399 I think he could be a steady But I loved 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.080 I love Lewis. I love Jordan Lewis. I think that 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:25.080 I feel more confident in that pick than I do 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.840 a woozy A. Well when you especially when you consider 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.920 the value. I hope I'm wrong. Sixty. I hope I'm wrong. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.400 I don't think you're alone in that though, And I mean, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.560 obviously I'm more nervous about what kind of player he 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.840 could be. I think if you and I have, I've 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.560 been pulling people in the building since the draft, just like, Hey, 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.360 which how do you feel? Who'd you like? Who's your favorite? 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.960 And Lewis is the answer more often than not. Yeah, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.520 But that's like Dane said, that's a value thing too. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.919 I mean, you're talking about Dane. I'm sorry. We were 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.280 talking about what we were talking about white and you 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.400 get him at ninety two. Yeah, we were talking about white. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.400 So it's just about all the corners, you know. Yeah, 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.440 you brought it up. Hey, we're talking about keeping six receivers. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.040 Here's a fun exercise for anybody listening at home. Go 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.439 cut this dB depth chart down. Yeah, you're you're probably 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.600 gonna keep ten. That's the standard. But although, like I 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.360 just said, I think you could finagle it to keep 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.639 eleven if you really have to, but I think you 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.760 have to. Another thing too, is you're gonna hear a 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.560 lot of You're gonna see a lot of tweets coming 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.160 from camp from the rookie camp this weekend. Just kind 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.600 of tap the brakes on all that. Just wait till 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.600 you get to training camp. Wait till you have full 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.160 team roster, Wait till you have everybody has the opportunity 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.679 to learn what's going on, and then when we get 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.399 out there and get competitive out in Oxnard, because a 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.800 lot a lot of snap judgments are gonna be made 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.480 this weekends playing these guys are even gonna be going 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.560 against each other really no, no, but the but the 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.440 the rookie guys, I mean with the rookie is going 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.240 against rookies. That's what I'm bout. Like, I feel like 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.840