WEBVTT - Michael Patrick King Returns 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.920 you a Charlotte? Michael Patrick is here you guys, we've 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:09.800 just jumped right in. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:14.000 It's the glorious return of the case, the return of 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:14.960 Are You a Charlotte? 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:15.200 And me? 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:17.319 That's right, we love it so much. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.079 And he asked me how long we were going to go, 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.080 and I said, as long as he wants to talk, 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.120 because this whole season. As when I saw you, we 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.480 talked that were in no like like a week ago 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:30.000 or whatever you like, at the. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.559 Human Rights beautiful time that we were honoring you at 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:34.560 Human Rights Campaign. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.080 So exciting the Human Rights Campaign. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:36.720 Thank you so much. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.959 You said that you were going to help me with 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.400 my season four amnesia. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:43.560 Yeah, yeah, like's start there. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.640 Yeah, because I don't know why I have it. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.400 I love season four. Oh, I love season four and 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.360 the City season four. I love it too. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.000 In my mind it was one with season three. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:54.880 Yes, you know what I mean. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.880 In my mind, people always say to me, oh, I 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.600 want to do Sex in the City again. I love 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.319 Sex in the City, and I always go, you love 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.200 Sex in the City Season four. That's where it peaked, 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:11.880 definitely of its clarity. Yes, one was like, what totally 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.520 finding it? And then two and three, but four is 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:20.080 like you you all are so strong and so vibrant, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.600 and the writing has gotten to such a place where 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:29.000 there's so many exciting twists and turns and so many 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.360 amount that we talked about. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.720 So much, the changing of Charlotte, the change so much 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.040 of Charlotte, so much changing of Miranda, the amount of 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.640 bravery in the writing room. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.800 Yes, oh, no, joke is incredible. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:44.320 It is not. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:49.360 It is like, what would really happen? Let's feel that 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.640 and follow that. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.840 This reminds me of something that I wanted to talk 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.800 to you about when so what I remember and I 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.000 know that most shows don't have this, and it was 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.680 it was such a joy that you would. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.240 Sit as down, Hi, darling, it's Michael Patrick King you guys, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:02.760 we're in. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.640 Okay, we're in. Remember how you would call us and 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.160 or have lunch with this, depending. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.840 On for each season, I give you the out of 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.080 town tryout exactly what I'm thinking for Charlotte, right, And 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:12.359 it was. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.400 Such a joy because most executive producer showrunners do not 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.920 do that to their actors, for their actors, which is 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.160 so insane to me. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.080 You know, It's interesting because if you're on a show 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:27.560 that is working or our show, so much of what 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.800 we're doing is for you, the actress. So much is 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.200 based on your version of Charlotte in seasons one, two, 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.160 and three that I always felt I not only owed 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.320 it to you, but I wanted a temperature check from 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.000 you about whether you were going to be excited about 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.440 where we're going. And also I loved bringing you surprise. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.079 Yeah, I was so exciting. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.600 Yeah, but it was really a tribute to you guys 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.360 that I wanted you as partners emotionally in the arc 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.240 of these characters that we create together. Yea. Yeah. But 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.920 literally it wasn't like go to work do these lines? No, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.240 not on that show, because we were literally taking from you. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.160 What can you do? What can we do with that? 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:17.280 What would be so great is if Charlotte couldn't get 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.280 pregnant and Miranda did. I'm talking about could it would 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:20.720 it should have? 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:21.080 Yeah. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:22.960 The idea of. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:29.160 That contrast is based on both your strengths as an 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.960 actor and also your connection is people bind this point, Yeah, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.200 you all were sort of in love with each other, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.800 so it was really easy to play the hurt when 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.840 the friendships didn't connect. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.160 It, yeah, and always so scary. I remember just being 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.960 so nervous about that if we ever had the disagreements, 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.560 because we did have, it was threat felt threatening just 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.600 personally because I did you know, we loved each other and. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.200 We I think by season four, if it's going well, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:05.520 you believe your character, you believe it. So it's all 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:06.440 very personal. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:07.400 It's so personal. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.440 Everything's personal totally. So when it's hard for me to 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.200 remember the first time, like I feel like it would 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.720 have been, I feel I don't remember pre season two 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.560 a sit down, though maybe it happened and I don't 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:20.080 remember it. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:20.600 I don't know. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.320 I remember season three when we were really having the 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.880 long art conversations and long conversations about the long arcs, right. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.839 I think it became important when we started to deviate 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:37.240 from the log line YEP for sexy Singles in Manhattan. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.000 The minute we started going what would happen to Charlotte? 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:45.120 And I said, Charlotte would get married. This is bush 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:49.080 that she isn't going to just drive that car to 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.200 wedding because it's time. And that's when we started having 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.240 to say, I know what we started with, but here's 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.440 what we're thinking and then I could see these like 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.640 out of town tryouts in your eyes. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.400 I could see the lighting up. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.760 Which is necessary for me to keep going because it 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:05.880 was always before they were. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.000 Written, right, it was just the plan. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:12.599 Each season. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.919 And did you talk to HBO about that too, or 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.800 did you wait and turn in the scripts? 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.560 Talk to you guys first, and then I talked to them. Cool, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:27.080 but I wanted to have a strong emotional connection first. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.200 It starts in the writing room. We all sort of 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.960 fall in love or fall out of love with the 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.919 story that we were doing, and that is the first 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.840 jury room. It's like we all put the stories on trial, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.120 and then when I feel really strong about that, I 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:47.520 bring them to you and then I see you as 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:53.640 an audience slash hybrid actor playing this part. React and 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.440 then that's everything, got it? And then I go and say, 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.080 this is what we're doing. I don't audition the sea 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:06.040 for the studio. God were always very very interesting, you know. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember the time, and this 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.599 would have been this would have been fourth season. See 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.040 in my mind, I had crunched third season and fourth 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.800 season into one. I think also because we were doing 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.840 so many episodes, right, it was it was. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.839 A lot of television. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.920 Yeah, the olden d television exactly exactly, like eighteen was 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.800 it eighteen? For each I feel like sometimes yeah, I 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.919 feel like four was eighteen and three both eighteen? 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:30.480 Yeah? 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.640 Crazy right, right, so great, and they're just each one 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.240 is packed, packed, packed with plot for each character, like 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.080 it's so good. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.360 Yeah, so and thirty minutes, I. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.480 Mean insane, Like what you guys could accomplish. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.000 Writing of all those storylines and with could it should have? Yeah, 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.719 it was the ideal thing because we always tried to 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.680 find a story where everybody could react based on who 0:06:55.720 --> 0:07:00.480 they are. Yes, So Miranda getting pregnant was both comic 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.160 because of the Steve one ball runner and. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.320 Unbelievable that we would risk that give the. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.080 One who was the least maternal in our eyes, the mother, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:21.200 contrasting hard crash into Charlotte's inability to become pregnant, and 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:26.200 then the very very ballsy thing, which is this episode's 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.120 about abortion. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.080 Right, and tell us about that? How did you talk 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.000 about in the writer's room? How did you talk about 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.760 it with HBO? Was their worry? 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.400 There was worry in the writing room, and there was 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.960 a necessity in the writing room to tell the story 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.880 and the journey really was about people's personal touches to 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.520 their friends who had had abortions. Or I'm not saying 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.000 anyone in the room had had abortions, right, everyone had 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.360 a situation that they had touched their friendships or themselves 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:03.160 about what would really happen and how people weren't talking 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.240 about that, right. And there's a line in the show 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.640 that I remember being radical is Samantha saying I've had two? 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:11.640 How many have you had? 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:12.000 Right? 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.960 I remember that? I mean even rewatch, I'm like, oh, like, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.720 I don't remember every detail, but I was like, oh 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:17.800 my god, we're so brave. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.400 It was brave, right, I've had two? 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.800 How many of you had? And Carrie actually takes a 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:27.080 mownent and goes one like, what am I you? 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:27.560 Right? 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:27.880 Right? 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:28.120 Right? 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:28.280 Right? 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.280 The idea of saying I've had two as a legitimate 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.840 sentence in a show, right, could you even say that? Now? 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.120 I don't think so. That's the other thing I wanted 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.040 to ask you, like, isn't it nutty? How I felt 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.200 at the time that we were doing something different and 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.280 that it was going to help shift things in our 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.959 you know, TV landscape, cultural landscape. What was okay? To 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.880 talk about, and I feel like it did for a while. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.560 And then TV is kind of or streaming whatever we're 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.199 supposed to call it now has pulled pulled back from fear. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.800 The trick with us is we got in with like 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:07.839 the comedy of the sex, and that was the shocking thing. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.320 But it was not just sex. It was funny sex, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.760 sex with the laugh So we slid in. That was 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:14.720 the calling card. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.640 Got it? Yeah, yeah, you got funny. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.240 Yeah, you're laughing, and we're not asking you to be aroused. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.480 In fact, if you are aroused, there's something wrong. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:23.880 Yeah. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.679 And then slowly we became to slip in other things 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.600 that women were talking about and not talking about on television. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.760 But still they're not talking about on television for sure, and. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:40.600 Not walking down the street after Iermez with a kerchief 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.720 on her head saying I've. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.280 Had two what have you had? 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:52.559 You know, like the casual, sophisticated, grown up, real life, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.120 real life in a very stylized frame of course, real life. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.880 And was anyone at HBoL worried, No, which is we 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:01.760 just had such a. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.960 I mean, we had a wonderful, wonderful experience that it 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:12.600 was always be You don't even be TV Yeah, be HBO, yeah, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.560 don't be that be whatever that is. And they followed us, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:22.360 and they trusted us because we rarely went too far 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.720 in any direction where it was the audience got pushed away. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.040 Well that was the joy of having the different characters 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.240 in the different perspectives. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:34.800 Well, yes, right, this perspective makes the Miranda story tolerable 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.760 for an enormous amount. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.840 Of people, right, right, right, And also so okay, I 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.959 remember that at one point it was at least floated 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.880 to me that we were both going to get pregnant 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.240 and then we were going to contrast our different mothering styles. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.000 And then at a certain point you called me and said, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.200 I'm really sorry, Charlotte's not gonna get pregnant. I was like, what, like, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.800 because of course I wanted what Charlotte wanted, which was 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.120 to get pregnant, right, And you said that because no 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.960 one it was even really in relationships in the writer's 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.079 room at that point, much less having children. Right at 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.840 that point in our lives, you were like, we just 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.520 don't have enough story material to be contrasting. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.720 Yeah, Samesy's yeah, like oh your pregnance, this, my pregnance, this, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.439 it's so much more interesting for Charlotte to do her 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.120 pregnancy through Miranda. Yeah, all the way to the baby shower. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.320 Oh yeah, you know, like how Charlotte would do the 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:32.400 baby shower. So it's always better if you have one 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.319 person experiencing something and everybody reacting to it. And we 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:36.960 got Charlotte their events. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.920 Definitely definite need to have a longer it was so 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:40.960 much more authentic. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:42.080 I agree, I agree totally. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.840 This struggle was so good for you as an actor, 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:53.680 definitely so good for Charlotte. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.160 My Hondai hot take is going to have to go 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.320 with the Miranda the Charlotte scene on the street because 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.440 it is the first scene that Cynthia and I have 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.080 just by ourselves, and I love it, and it's so 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.560 beautifully written, and it's so beautifully filmed out there. I 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.240 believe we're on Fifth Avenue with all kinds of people, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.640 and I love her performance so much. I love how 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.120 she walks behind me, so it's really really sweet. That's 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.960 going to be my Hyundaie hot take, celebrating iconic moments, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:33.920 bold moves, and unforgettable style, just like Hyundai. It is 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.080 interesting to watch because you know, at the time I 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:41.960 was watching everything and micro you know, criticizing myself in 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.600 my head, and now you know how I do that. Yeah, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:45.480 it's hard for us. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.280 I feel bad for you. I know I feel bad 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.000 for all actors. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.960 I'm sure I get the joy of writing them stuff 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.520 and watching them do it and editing in them and 0:12:55.559 --> 0:13:00.000 falling in love with them from a not inside them 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.040 point of view. And I always say to actors, can 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.040 you even see how good you are? But they don't know. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.880 They look away and they don't feel it. They don't 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.600 feel it. It's so much a part of my job 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.880 is to feel so excited and happy for the work 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.719 that people have done, like it's my favorite part of 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.760 the job is to see people accomplish, even in the 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.040 writing room, to see people accomplish something amazing. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.959 You're an excellent mentor thank you? I am, yes. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:36.920 But actors can't ever step outside themselves and feel it 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:37.800 the way the audiences. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.720 And I have called you so many times and said, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.079 did you watch the episode? No, I'll get to it. No, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.640 the kids have to be asleep. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.640 No I won't. No, I can't. I won't be able 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.640 to go to sleep if I watch it. I'm afraid 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.880 to watch it. All of it is true. True, and 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.520 I feel that way with Network notes. If they come 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.439 in after five o'clock and I see an email, I'm like, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.839 I'm not I can't fall asleep, right, I'll ruin my 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.360 day tomorrow totally totally like I felt bad because I've 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.559 also I've called you and harassed you to imprint on you. Yes, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.080 how special it. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.679 Is, thank you, And I appreciate that. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:19.000 I appreciate that lying you don't know, there's no purpose 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:20.960 of me calling, and I feel it. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.680 And this episode is particularly brilliant. 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.080 I'm so glad you're here for this episode, right, because 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.720 this is what goes on with me. And I think 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.880 the joy many joys of this podcast one is that 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.520 I get to have you here to talk about it. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.000 Joy to thank you. There's so many elements that like 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.960 we weren't able to talk about at the time because 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.920 we're just in it, right, and it was so all 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.280 encompassing distance. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.320 Yes, to see it now, That's what. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.720 I was going to say, Yeah this yesterday, because I 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.040 knew I was coming here, I. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:55.840 Was like, bang, yeah, on all cylinders. Agreed. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:01.920 There's jokes, there's pain, there's style. Beautifully filmed by David Frankel. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.000 Oh my god, incredible. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.960 Tell me it has an elegant film quality too. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:14.240 It's very sure of itself yet surprising, definitely, And all 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.880 that time has gone by and I still go, wow. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.720 Me too, me too. And that's what I was going 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.960 to say about watching myself, right, because at the time 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.080 we would get the VHS types, we would run home, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.120 put them in nervously, nervously right, and there might be 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.080 a card, or there might be temp music or whatever, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.000 but still it would be so thrilling. But also when 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:31.680 I'd come on, I'd be like, oh, I don't think 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.000 I'd nailed that. You know, you're just so critical, right, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:38.320 I know. But now thirty years almost later, I'm like, wow, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.320 I was so much better than I thought I was. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.560 And then every one while I'm like, no, it's interesting, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.600 and I wonder, I wonder I couldn't help, but wonder 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.600 exactly is that part of. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:58.160 The important mix that when you're doing it, you don't 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:59.000 think you're good? 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.240 Would you feel good? Would you be different? 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.760 I think you'd be less vulnerable, you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.440 and that that. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.880 Is sure, yeah, less unsure when you have. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.680 Some unsure you especially it depends on your character obviously, right, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.280 But like if there's no vulnerability, Like even if you 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.240 think about Meryl playing you know, whatever her name is 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.280 in the thank you, how could I forget weird that 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.440 it is Miranda? You know, if she weren't Meryl and 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.800 weren't playing all those layers, it wouldn't be as brilliant. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.040 It would be hard, right, Like you have to keep 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:42.040 some kind of vulnerability, unsure, you know, off you're slightly 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.640 off balance, you know, depending on the character, of course. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:45.360 But but for me. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.840 Yeah, well, now I've worked with you for so many. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.160 Amazing vibrations storytelling. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.760 Yes that in this one too. I love it. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.920 You're you're gonna have to endure this, but I love 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:05.600 it when the emotion overwhelms your performance, like when you 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.320 pick in this episode, when you take out the result 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.520 and I want to point out something. You take out 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.400 the paper after you've coming from an infidelity moment. Yes, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.479 good writing with the proof, and when you hold it 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.359 up to her, you the actor or you the Charlotte 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.479 knew it was upside down when you took it out 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.320 of your person and you corrected it. You're in your 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.800 moment you were, and then your voice cracked. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.440 I love that part, that part. Yes, there are other 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.040 parts of that scene that I'm like, I could have 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:40.840 done better, okay, but the thing that also amazing, I mean, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:41.560 and I think. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.920 And the fact that we were able to swing that 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.560 storyline over to carry and have it be a carry. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.400 Aiden thing forgotten and like how a moment of. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.320 Shame which is always so important, Yes, when a character 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.240 suddenly real I'm ashamed of something, right, and then they 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.800 have to admit it, right, and then Corbett's so open, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.120 and then the weird trick of don't tell. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.200 There's a lot of great together, like great, get them apart, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.200 They're all great. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.040 Yes, it's so great. And the thing that I was 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.840 thinking about with that, which we've been you know, this 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.800 whole season, I'm like, what would Michael Patrick say about 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.359 X or Y or Z for your hair now? So 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.520 I'm gonna ask you when. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.280 So with the Aiden in general, I have a lot 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.280 of feeling opinions about X Y and. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.840 Thank God, that's why we love you so one of 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:37.280 the reasons when Aiden comes back, it is so fascinating, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.440 right because like we've you know, I'm rewatching, I'm having 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.320 all different feelings about Big because it's time has passed 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.639 and whatnot, and I have a lot of different feelings 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.040 about Aiden. I love Aiden, and he's very complicated because 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.919 Corbett brings so much to him, right, and you guys 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.600 really open him up when he comes back, but he's 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.840 less like the anti Big, which is kind of how 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.119 he starts out right, But like in this particular episode too, 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.800 the complexities are just so much with He doesn't have 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:11.040 a lot, but it's but she's I feel her through 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.639 line in this particular season at least, is that she 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.400 feels like he wants something slightly different. You know. It's 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.720 like when she has to stop smoking the first time, right, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.679 did you guys perceive it that way? Yes? 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:23.159 Got it? 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.600 He wanted a perfect image of her, got it? And 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.600 an abortion doesn't go in that so. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.560 And would you connect it all back, like even from 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:32.800 the beginning when she's like, I. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.560 Even wanted Carrie to be a certain way, and the 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.680 struggle was and it always it carried all the way 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.439 through to their eventual breakup on it just like that 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.520 that's really she wasn't ever going to be that way 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.359 interesting and he tried, and they both tried, and we 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:51.920 all love people, but there's. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:52.680 Something in him. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.840 He says a line when he's there in the fountain 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.520 when they're going to get after the party, and he says, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.359 I want to get a ring on it. 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:02.760 I want to lock this down. 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.119 Yes, And that was a very male line that I 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.040 heard from one of the crew members, and I was like, Oh, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.280 that's so male and so straight. Guy, you got to 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.840 lock this down, you got to get a ring on it. Yes, 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.200 And Aiden has that quality. And the great thing about 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.800 Corbett is he it's not his main color. His main 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:24.320 color is love and playfulness, but he brought all that 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:29.919 and it's sort of added to the don't disappoint me guy, right, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:35.159