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Speaker 1: that number to be ten, because if I have no

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Speaker 1: more than ten teams in a league and you're playing

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Speaker 1: nine conference games, that means everybody plays everybody. Therefore, conference

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Speaker 1: play is true round robin conference play every year, and

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Speaker 1: so I would have that as the conference slate. And

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Speaker 1: then i'd make you play one power opponent out of

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Speaker 1: conference so that I could keep rivalries intact, which you're

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Speaker 1: about to see, I'm splitting up a lot of teams.

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00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: So if I could do that and I didn't get

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Speaker 1: any pushback, which according to the question I'm not going

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00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: to get, would be off to the races, here's how

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Speaker 1: i'd make it. Look. Let me walk you through this.

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00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: And I know if you're listening on podcasts you don't

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Speaker 1: have the visual medium, but just follow me here. Think

441
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: about the SEC right now, the SEC has sixteen teams

442
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Speaker 1: in it. The most recent realignment added Texas and Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Well they're gone in my SEC. Texas and OU are

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00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: no longer in. Missouri is no longer in. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: Arkansas out, I'm taking Texas A and m out and

446
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: what we're left with is we're left with Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU,

447
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Ole, Miss South Carolina, and Tennessee just a

448
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: night n neat tidy SEC. I think we counted the miles.

449
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: The longest road trip here is either going to be LSU,

450
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: South Carolina or maybe like Kentucky, LSU, Kentucky, Florida, something

451
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Speaker 1: like that. So that is ten team SEC, which brings

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Speaker 1: us to the Big Ten. The Big Ten I had

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Speaker 1: to do even more shaving down on because the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten has eighteen teams currently. There's a funny thing we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do here with one exception. If you've got a number,

456
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: then I want that to correspond with how many teams

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Speaker 1: are in the league. Again, with one exception, I'll mention,

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Speaker 1: So the Big Ten, I'm going from eighteen teams down

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Speaker 1: to ten teams. Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Penn State, Perdue. In Wisconsin. You'll notice no

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00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: West coast teams here. Oregon's gone, Washington's gone, Both the

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Speaker 1: Southern cal teams are gone. There's no Northwestern There will

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Speaker 1: be controversy over what I'm doing with Northwestern, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's in the best overall interest of the sport,

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Speaker 1: and it's not like we're hanging them out to dry.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we are freeing them to do whatever they

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Speaker 1: want to do. You can go to class just as

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Speaker 1: shortly as you can schedule anyone you want to. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make Notre Dame an independent, or well, Notre

470
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: Dame will be want to Northwestern will be an independent.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second. It kind of

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00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,239
Speaker 1: comes down to a numbers game if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: make things nice and tidy and ten teams per most leagues.

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Speaker 1: Guess what The Big East is back, and that's not

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00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: the only conference that's back. But I would bring back

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Speaker 1: the Big East, and that's what it would look like

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00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,239
Speaker 1: a lot of what the Big East used to be.

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Speaker 1: I need to add Boston College again because it's a

479
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Speaker 1: numbers thing. But Cincy and Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, Yukon, Virginia, Tech,

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. You'll notice UCF is in there. I've got

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Speaker 1: to put UCF somewhere. And it was either going to

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Speaker 1: be the ACC or the Big East. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like they have traditional ties to either one of them.

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Speaker 1: But they're not gonna be in the Big twelve because

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Speaker 1: they're in Orlando, Florida, and the Big twelve's about to

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Speaker 1: cease to exist in a matter of moments. So I

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00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: put UCF in here. We're just gonna have to accept

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00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: that small prices to pay, small prices to pay. I

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00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: have an even bigger announcement than the Big East returning.

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00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I think we should have drum rolled this. The Southwest

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Speaker 1: Conference was one of one of the wonders of the

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Speaker 1: world when it existed. You had the Pyramids, you had

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Speaker 1: Niagara Falls, but the Southwest Conference was not far behind,

494
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Speaker 1: and it died unjustly in nineteen ninety six. And on

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Speaker 1: the thirty year anniversary of the Southwest Conference's tragic death,

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Speaker 1: I would just like to bring the entire Southwest Conference back.

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Speaker 1: I don't need new logos either. The old artwork is fine.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it. It's fine. Texas and Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech and SMU and Texas A and M, they're all back.

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Speaker 1: You'll also notice that, in a gesture of probably good

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00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: faith that's not even deserved, I have brought Rice into

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Speaker 1: the equation for food at the table in the Southwest Conference.

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00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Now I did right down. Rice will enter the Southwest

504
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Conference as sort of a probationary period and at that

505
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: point balls in Rice's court to see what they do

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Speaker 1: with it. But I made room for Rice, and I

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00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: do need to add one team. I need to add

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Speaker 1: two Lane because I think two Lane's ready, and I

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00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: think two Lane geographically it makes sense. I wanted a

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00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: spot for them in one of these conferences, and so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put Tulane in the Southwest Conference. Arkansas's in

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00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: there because Arkansas used to be in there. Now it's

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00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: a lot of Texas schools in Arkansas, and Lou Holtz

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Speaker 1: was not a fan of that back in the day.

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Speaker 1: I get it the look. I value tradition and I

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Speaker 1: value history, and outside of Tulane, that's what the Southwest

517
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: Conference used to look like. And I'm just excited to

518
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: see what Rhet lash Lee and the crew do in

519
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: an era where you can legally do what used to

520
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: have an entire are thirty for thirty made about you.

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00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: So the Southwest Conference will be my appointment viewing every Saturday.

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00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: Big eight is also a back. The Big twelve is

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00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: an abomination. The Big Eight is a beautiful, beautiful creation

524
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: that never should have gone anywhere. Old logo again works perfectly.

525
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Now I need to make some modifications with the Big Eight.

526
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Speaker 1: I am going to put Oklahoma and Oklahoma State here,

527
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: Nebraska's there in Missouri, Kansas State, and Kansas, Iowa State, Colorado.

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00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: They were all old school members of the Big Eight.

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Speaker 1: I am taking both schools from Utah and I am

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Speaker 1: putting them in the Big Eight. And I know, if

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Speaker 1: you're doing the math out there, that means we have

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Speaker 1: ten teams in this league. This is the one concession.

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Speaker 1: This is the one conference that I need to keep

534
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: the name of for legacy perpi plural of purpose. But

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00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: the number in the name of the league will not

536
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Speaker 1: correspond with the overall number of teams. Again, not perfect,

537
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: but small price to pay. I can't call it the

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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Big ten. We already have a Big ten. You could

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: call it the Big eight plus if you want to,

540
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: which I think is lame. So I'm gonna call it

541
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: the Big Eight because I like calling something the Big

542
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: eight because it used to be called the Big eight.

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: So we have sort of grandfathered the name of the

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00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: league in here. But I'm putting Brigham Young and Utah

545
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: both in this league. Otherwise, it's kind of the way

546
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: it used to look. Now, there was a version of

547
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: this we did Jesse like two years ago, where I

548
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: had Oklahoma in the Southwest Conference. We got a lot

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00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: of pushback on that because Oklahoma was a Big Eight member,

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00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: they weren't in the Southwest Conference, and I pushed back

551
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, but then I thought, you know what,

552
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: you guys are making more sense than me. So let's

553
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: put Oklahoma where they belong in the Big Eight. There

554
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: is a mandate coming from my league office, and that

555
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: is Oklahoma and Texas are now in different conferences. You

556
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: will be mandated to play each other every year. So

557
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: the Red River Shootout, not the rivalry. The Red Rivers

558
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Shootout will go on. We'll play it at the Cotton Bowl,

559
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: the real one from now until the Lord returns, and

560
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: it will kick off at eleven am. He said, you

561
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to mandate that. I'll give

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00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: you a little flexibility on kickoff time. I want it

563
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: to be eleven am, but I'll give you a little

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00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: flexibility on that. But Oklahoma is out of the conference,

565
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Texas is in you've got to play each other every year,

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00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: so we're not doing away with any rivalries. But you'll

567
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: notice we got Bedlam back as a conference game. No less,

568
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: we continue resurrections everywhere tonight. The PAC ten is back. Josh,

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Speaker 1: don't you mean the PAC twelve. No, No, I don't

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Speaker 1: mean the PAC twelve, because the PAC twelve as an

571
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: idea failed. The PAC twelve as a conference failed. Really,

572
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Larry Scott failed. The PAC twelve would have been fine.

573
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: The PAC ten was fine. The PAC ten, when I

574
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: was growing up, even though I lived basically in another world,

575
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: was the easiest conference to remember when you were trying

576
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: to memorize your conferences, because you knew that you had

577
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Speaker 1: the two Washington teams, you have the two Oregon teams,

578
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: you have the two Bay Area, you have the two

579
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Southern California teams, and you have the two Arizona teams. Two, four, six, eight,

580
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: ten boom. And that is exactly what the PAC ten

581
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: is going to be. Here. I want to say for

582
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: a third time, I don't need any new artwork. I

583
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: don't need any new focus grouping or rebranding. We're going

584
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: to old school with this. Why because nothing was messed

585
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: up about it to begin with other than failed leadership.

586
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: So as the future commissioner of this sport, I will

587
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: see fit that people who actually know how to run

588
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: a conference are enjoying spots in the league office this

589
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: time around. But the PAC ten is back. The ACC

590
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: is a little interesting. So the ACC had to make

591
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: some decisions. I could have put Miami in the Big East.

592
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: I could have put Boston College in the ACC. I

593
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: made some minor moves. Number one, because I like Miami

594
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: in the ACC. More I like Florida State and the ACC. More.

595
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep that rivalry together. But also geographically,

596
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I wanted as much regionality as possible. Now, yeah, I

597
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: got Maryland here, but that's the northernmost team I have,

598
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: And so if I put Boston College in, there's just

599
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: all up and down the eastern seaboard. I don't really

600
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: want that. So I got Clemson and Duke, Florida State,

601
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, NC State, North Carolina, Virginia, and

602
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: Wake Forest. No big surprises there. And then we come

603
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: to the independence. I am not forcing Notre Dame to

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: join a conference. If they want to, we can talk, Okay,

605
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: I can probably kick someone out, or I could negotiate

606
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: a trade, but I'm gonna give Notre Dame their independence.

607
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: As I said, we had a little bit of a

608
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: math problem. So I have two more independents. One of

609
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: them is Northwestern, the other is Vanderbilt, as I sit

610
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: two miles down the road from the university. This will

611
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: get way more vitriol than it should because it's purely hypothetical.

612
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: But when we did this last time, any team who

613
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: was taken out of a conference and made independent, there

614
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: were torches and pitchforks in the comments and the replies.

615
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: It's a math situation. So I have to have three independents.

616
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: One of them's Notre name, and that's obvious. And then

617
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: I just went academics on it. I went Northwestern and

618
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I went Vanderbilt, frankly, because I think they have the

619
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: most in common. So that doesn't mean you're locked out

620
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: of anything. That just means you both have to schedule

621
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: the way Notre Dame schedules every year. And the good

622
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: news is I'm forcing every one of these teams to

623
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: play one power out of conference opponent on top of

624
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: their conference schedule, which means there's no shortage of opponents

625
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: out there that want to play you. So there you go.

626
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Especially if I can pull the media rights, Jesse, if

627
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I can pull that off, if I can reconfigure all

628
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: the conferences, which I was told I can do, because

629
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: there's no limit on this, and then I get to

630
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: pool the media rights where every one of these leagues

631
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: is playing on every network. Ohio State's not, you know,

632
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: contractually bound to play noon kickoffs from now until eternity.

633
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: They may be able to, oh I don't know, play

634
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: Penn State in primetime every now and then. That would

635
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: be a great thing. So regions and rivalries, traditions, these

636
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: are not dirty concepts. We still believe in them around here.

637
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: It is March first, which means March third is two

638
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: days from now. So, as I have told you before,

639
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville in early twenty twenty. Now, twenty

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Speaker 1: But in Nashville, not only did COVID hit in spring,

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Speaker 1: but a deadly tornado hit in spring, and it hit

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Speaker 1: kind of sideswiped my building and it forced us to

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Speaker 1: leave for a week, but it completely leveled some buildings

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Speaker 1: across from me. So we were spared. Not everyone was though,

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Speaker 1: so there were nearly two dozen fatalities just in the

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Speaker 1: Nashville area. This was an EF four torn eighty. It

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Speaker 1: was on the ground for a long time. It was

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. It was crazy. As

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Speaker 1: you guys know, we partner with the Magnolia Foundation, So

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Speaker 1: the genesis of that, we're coming up on the five

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Speaker 1: year Anniverse, six year anniversary of this tornado is the

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Speaker 1: reason I mentioned this today. It's because March third, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: was when that tornado came through. Well since then, we

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Speaker 1: met a guy by the name of Matt Collins who

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Speaker 1: watches the show. He's watched the show for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and he let me know one day that his family

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Speaker 1: got hit by that tornado. They live out in Cookville,

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Speaker 1: which is a little bit east of Nashville, and they survived,

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Speaker 1: but they lost their little girl in the tornado. And

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Speaker 1: so he shares the story with me, and then he

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Speaker 1: tells me about all of the unexpected expenses that you

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Speaker 1: have anytime you have a funeral, but especially when it

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Speaker 1: involves a child, and he said it completely devastated us

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Speaker 1: and we went through a lot of heartbreak. But we

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Speaker 1: also learned a lot going through the process, and we realized,

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Speaker 1: if we're going through this, anyone who loses a child

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Speaker 1: is going through this, we got to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to help. They started their own foundation, the Magnolia Foundation,

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Speaker 1: and what they do is they try and cover cost

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Speaker 1: as much as they can for families who lose children,

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Speaker 1: and we have worked with them. We've partnered with them

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Speaker 1: for about a year now, and they do phenomenal work

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of as you would imagine, unforeseen

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Speaker 1: expense that goes into this sort of thing. So we

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Speaker 1: launched products in our store and proceeds go to the

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Speaker 1: Magnolia Foundation. So you can see the like there's a

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Speaker 1: picture of it right now. If you're watching it on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: paystatemateial dot com, you can find those items. But when

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Speaker 1: we first talked about this on the show, Refreshingly, I

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Speaker 1: found out a lot of you kind of bypassed the store,

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Speaker 1: which I'm fine with. You went straight to the Magnolia

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Speaker 1: Foundation website and said, how do I just donate directly? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you Magnolia Foundation dot com, slash give and

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Speaker 1: Matt hit me up and let me know the kinds

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Speaker 1: of numbers that our audience specifically was responsible for and

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Speaker 1: we told you on a show a couple of months

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Speaker 1: ago how many funeral costs were totally covered by our

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Speaker 1: audience giving. And so, man, I appreciate it so much.

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Speaker 1: And he's not here, but if he were here, he

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Speaker 1: would say that times one hundred. And you got to know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you'll never meet most of these families that

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Speaker 1: you're helping out, but they appreciate it. We had Matt

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Speaker 1: Stott by the studio a couple of weeks ago. Actually,

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Speaker 1: So if you want to give directly, you can go

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Speaker 1: to Magnolia Foundation dot com slash give, or you can

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Speaker 1: buy one of the items in our store because portions

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Speaker 1: of those proceeds go to the Magnolia Foundation. Either way,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you, guys, because that is it's tough, man.

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Speaker 1: You hear. There is no laid back story, There is

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Speaker 1: no good story. Those aren't happy endings stories that you're getting.

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Speaker 1: But what you are getting is in an opportunity to help,

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Speaker 1: and we always want to take advantage of that. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on in the show. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: perfect time of year to talk about this. Boston Billy

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Speaker 1: hailing from Boston, Massachusetts, hit us up. He said, which

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Speaker 1: coaches or teams have to be in must win mode?

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Speaker 1: This year we saw a historic coaching carousel. So it's

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Speaker 1: a tougher exercise than I thought. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it's that difficult. We came up with these names pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Mike Norvell's got to lead the list when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about must win, like gotta get it done in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. Mike Norvell in Florida State have to be

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Speaker 1: at the top of the list. It seems the most obvious.

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Speaker 1: So they went too and ten two years ago that

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Speaker 1: was the huge disaster season, and then shockingly they beat

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Speaker 1: Alabama in Week one, kind of dominated Alabama in Week one.

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Speaker 1: Looks like they're off to the races, and then they

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Speaker 1: still finish five and seven. There's all kind of hot

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Speaker 1: seat talk. Turns out the buyout is really all that

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Speaker 1: saved him, and it was pob It's just kind of

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Speaker 1: known that that was the case. They've just had their

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Speaker 1: worst two year stretch since seventy four and seventy five.

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Speaker 1: So here's what could happen. Of course, their season could

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Speaker 1: go in the tank for a third year and he

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Speaker 1: loses his job. They could pull the nose up and

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Speaker 1: have a great year, in which case this is all

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Speaker 1: a moot point. But also that buyout is still going

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Speaker 1: to be high this year. So the other thing that

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Speaker 1: could happen is he's not fired because we can't afford

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Speaker 1: to fire him. Then fan apathy sets in, which in

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Speaker 1: the long run costs you more than the buyout costs you.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Norvell needs to win. That's how you silence

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Speaker 1: all that he needs to win. I think Shane Biemer

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Speaker 1: may be on this list two years ago, I mean

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Speaker 1: less than two years ago. Really, South Carolina nine and four,

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Speaker 1: they're knocking on the playoff door. They just miss out.

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Speaker 1: But outside of that, he's gone seven and six, eight

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Speaker 1: and five, five and seven, and four and eight, four

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Speaker 1: and eight was the most recent year last year. And

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Speaker 1: you got Lenora Sellers on this team, and you've paid

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Speaker 1: a lot to keep him, and you got Dylan Stewart

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Speaker 1: on this team. Likewise, you paid a lot to keep him,

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Speaker 1: and you got to ask yourself, you know, South Carolina

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Speaker 1: fans start to wonder, ten years from now, are we

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Speaker 1: really going to look back on this stretch of having

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Speaker 1: Leonora's Sellers and Dylan Stewart on this team and we

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Speaker 1: didn't even make the playoff, and they expanded the thing

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Speaker 1: to twelve. We didn't even make the playoff. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: to be continued because we haven't seen how this year

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Speaker 1: turns out. But that's kind of what makes it a

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Speaker 1: must win. And look, I'm not going to say that

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Speaker 1: it was extremely loud, but there was there was some

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Speaker 1: noise around South Carolina and around Shane Beemer last year

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Speaker 1: towards the m It's just it's a tough job. Man.

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Speaker 1: He knows that though, but it's a tough job. But

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Speaker 1: Clemson's kind of down right now. So this is the

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Speaker 1: opportune moment because remember, for a long time, Clemson's run

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Speaker 1: looked like it was never going to end. And now

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Speaker 1: Clemson's run, at least when it comes to being dominant,

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Speaker 1: has subsided for the time being. You got to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of it. What about Wisconsin and Luke Fickle. Bradley

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Speaker 1: loves when he starts to roll b roll and then

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Speaker 1: I switch teams. And I'm not gonna say I do

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Speaker 1: it on purpose, but I kind of do. Luke Fickle

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Speaker 1: has gone seven and six, five and seven and four

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Speaker 1: and eight at Wisconsin. It's just not good enough. It

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Speaker 1: surprises me a lot because I still think he's a

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Speaker 1: And I just think if Luke Fickle had it to

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Speaker 1: do over again, I don't think he would go the

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Speaker 1: offensive route. He tried to go, but he did and

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Speaker 1: then he bailed on it. But still, when you've recruited

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Speaker 1: and you've staffed one way and then you want to

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Speaker 1: ask Lincoln Riley how that goes defensively, Well, it's happening

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Speaker 1: offensively at Wisconsin. Brett Beelma, Paul Christ. You know these

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Speaker 1: are coaches in the recent era of Wisconsin football. Here's

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Speaker 1: what's crazy. Wisconsin's won nine games combined the last two years.

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Speaker 1: I want you to think back Belama, how many single

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Speaker 1: years did he win nine games? Try five? Paul Christ,

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Speaker 1: you know the guy that wasn't good enough, the guy

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Speaker 1: they fired. Christ also had five separate nine plus win seasons.

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Speaker 1: They've won nine the past two years combined. So they

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Speaker 1: made a ton of moves in the portal Number fifteen

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Speaker 1: in the ON three portal rankings, they had thirty three

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Speaker 1: come in, they had twenty three go out, so that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of portal turn But really what it comes

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Speaker 1: down to is quarterback has been snake bit for them.

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Speaker 1: First off, Tanner Mordecai just wasn't it. And then Tyler

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Speaker 1: van Dyke got hurt, and then Billy Edwards got hurt,

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Speaker 1: and well that's it so far. It's been three years.

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Speaker 1: So Colton Joseph is who they turned to this year,

795
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Speaker 1: old dominion transfer. It's got to be better. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be way better. I think Lincoln Riley's on this

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Speaker 1: list too though. At USC, Riley's best year was his

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Speaker 1: first year, and they went nine and four last year,

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Speaker 1: soundly by Oregon at the Bowl Game, which again people

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Speaker 1: kind of anecdotally value Bowl games, but it went the

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Speaker 1: way it went. They gotta click noticeably this year. This

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they have to win the Big Ten or

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Speaker 1: I do think they have to be in the playoff picture.

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Speaker 1: I do think that they got to be right there

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Speaker 1: because they just finished number one overall in recruiting two

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Speaker 1: years ago. Was their great reset, which I personally was

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Speaker 1: willing to give them time for But the whole context

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Speaker 1: of that was you're admitting your mistakes in terms of

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Speaker 1: defensive personnel. And they hired Danton Lynn. Well he's now

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Speaker 1: on to Penn State, but they brought in Gary Patterson.

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Speaker 1: But still you should be trending up defensively and they are.

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Speaker 1: You've got a third year starter at quarterback in Mayava.

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Speaker 1: You should be good there. But more importantly, the overall

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Speaker 1: just caliber of the roster should be improving year over year.

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Speaker 1: And if they're not in the playoff mix this year,

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Speaker 1: then there's gonna be a lot of looking around out

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00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: there saying, man, we got so many facets here that

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Speaker 1: work is our head coach sort of the loose end

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Speaker 1: is that the wobbly tire. Now I'm on record as

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Speaker 1: saying I still believe Lincoln Riley can get it done,

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Speaker 1: but he has to do just that get it done. Now,

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Speaker 1: there was an entire separate bucket of coaches that I

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Speaker 1: did not put on my list here. I had five

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Speaker 1: names or four names, Sark, you could make the argument for,

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Speaker 1: but that's a totally different kind of pressure. I think

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Speaker 1: Kaylen de Boor is the same way Sark and Kaylin

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Speaker 1: de Boor are not facing job security type pressure. This year.

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Speaker 1: There is immense pressure to level up the performance for Texas.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's an immense pressure to compete for a

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Speaker 1: national title for Alabama at the very least, you know,

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Speaker 1: do things like run the ball effectively, which leads to

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Speaker 1: playoff contention. That sort of thing has to exist with

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Speaker 1: those two. This year, Matt Rule at Nebraska, I didn't

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Speaker 1: really know what to do with him. I didn't really

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Speaker 1: know what to do with Nebraska because I can't say

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Speaker 1: he's on any kind of hot seat. They just massively

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Speaker 1: reworked his contract to keep him because there were rumors

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Speaker 1: were rumors about him, So he's not on a hot seat.

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Speaker 1: But the Rule rule, the year three Matt Rule deal,

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Speaker 1: it just didn't click last year. And then Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: at North Carolina. I don't really know what to make

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Speaker 1: of that either, only because they were I mean, they

845
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Speaker 1: were bad last year. Schedule gets tougher this year. You

846
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: got to figure the roster will look a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more like they want it to look. But also I

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Speaker 1: don't know how bad does it have to be? How

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Speaker 1: bad does it have to be at North Carolina. We're

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Speaker 1: I don't really know that's I think the whole Bill

852
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Belichick pressure picture, I kind of think is a wild

853
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: card to me. They're watching us in Spokane, Washington, they're

854
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: watching us in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, and Mobile, Alabama.

855
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: A lot of you are tuned in live are audience

856
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: tunes in year round. I appreciate it. Do me one favor,

857
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: check and see if you're subscribed. If you are, two

858
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: thumbs up, thank you. If you think you are, double

859
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Speaker 1: check because a lot of you think you are and

860
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: you aren't. And if you're not, that's okay. I would

861
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: just appreciate it if you would click that subscribe button

862
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: because it's free. Let's move on very important matters. Hey,

863
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: we're hitting a lot of them tonight. It's like a

864
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: town hall event tonight. George from Point Pleasant, West Virginia said,

865
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: if you were the commissioner, what would you do about

866
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: noon kickoffs. I'm a Buckeye fan. I don't know if

867
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: any of our big games will kick at night. And

868
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: as someone who loves to travel up and tailgate, it

869
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: feels like we get ripped off with the noon kicks.

870
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: You do, you do get ripped off. We had to

871
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: establish a long time ago. If I'm gonna fairly rule

872
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: on the whole noon kickoff conundrum, I've got to just

873
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: recuse my personal feelings because I am a weirdo. I

874
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: am a vast minority type group guy when it comes

875
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: to noon kickoffs. I love them, but most people don't.

876
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: And I'm selfish. And why I love them because it

877
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: lets me get home. Like I've gone to many, many,

878
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: many noon kickoffs at Ohio State. And the reason I

879
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: love noon kickoffs in Columbus is because I'm back in

880
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Nashville by six thirty or seven. That's why I love it.

881
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not going and I'm not tailgating, and I'm

882
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: not in no hurry to get out afterwards. So I've

883
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: just got to divorce my emotions totally, and I've got

884
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: to acknowledge you are getting the shaft here. Ohio State

885
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: especially has been victimized by the entire Big ten television

886
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: media deal infrastructure thing. We went and counted. I think

887
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: these are probably stats that Ohio State fans know by heart.

888
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: But Ohio State just gets railed by the Big ten

889
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: TV deal they had seven noon kickoffs in twenty twenty four.

890
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: They had another five of them last year. Ohio State

891
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: has virtually no shot of playing a Marquee Conference game

892
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: at any other time slot than noon, And the only

893
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: chance they really have is if they go on the

894
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: road out of conference, like they play at Texas this

895
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: upcoming year. And yet they'll probably get primetime treatment for that.

896
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: But remember Texas came to Columbus last year. Fox got

897
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: the game, so it's a noon kickoff. State representatives have

898
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: tried to get involved here. Lawmakers have tried to get

899
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: bills passed and I don't even know that that's possible,

900
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: but they've tried to the Tennessee game a couple of

901
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: years ago, the playoff game. That was when it really

902
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 1: hit home how much Ohio State has been victimized, because

903
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: those folks finally got a home. Primetime Marquee games dropped

904
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: in their lap. And do you remember what it was like?

905
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: I do. I was on the field. It was twenty

906
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: degrees at kickoff, which I'm not built for, but they are,

907
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: and that place was insane and it was over shortly

908
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: after it started. So not a good memory from my

909
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: orange clad brethren over there in Knoxville. But yeah, I

910
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: looked at that and I felt it, and I said, wow,

911
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: So this is what this place is like at night,

912
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: and they hardly ever get it. That's kind of tough. Now,

913
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: there will be people in the comment section who I

914
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: don't know. They like to sort of intellectually picture themselves

915
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: as flying above the rest of the crowd. This is

916
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: the kind of person who says things like, hey, that's

917
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: what the money's for translation Ohio State. The big ten

918
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: willingly signed that TV deal, they willingly cash those big checks. Well,

919
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: that's the exchange you have to play when Fox tells

920
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: you you're gonna play. And Fox has every right to

921
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: establish that noon window. That's where they place their primary game. Hey,

922
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't even blame Fox man. I've never had a

923
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: big problem with the strategy per se. I get the strategy.

924
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I'd probably do it no different if I ran Fox Sports.

925
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: But the point of it all is fans didn't sign

926
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: any deal. So Keith from Ashtabulam or Mike from Akron

927
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: did not sign any deal with any network. The deal

928
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: they sign is with Ohio State. When they send their

929
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: money every year in exchange for their season tickets and

930
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: what they're like a chance to do every now and

931
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: then is to park in the tuttle garage there and

932
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: uh oh, I don't know, have a few hours before

933
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: the game starts. And I don't mean parking over there

934
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: at six am to get ready for a nooner. I

935
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: don't mean that. I mean show up at nine or

936
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: ten am, because we know we're not kicking off to

937
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: seven thirty tonight every now and then. You know, I

938
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: think they'd appreciate it. And they didn't sign any deal

939
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: with Fox or any other network. They just happen to

940
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: be locked into it, like they don't make any television

941
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: media rights revenue. That's who I'm talking to Slash about

942
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: Slash four. One of the biggest advantages, by the way,

943
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: and I keep coming back to this same drum, so

944
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I'll hit it one more time. I think one of

945
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: the biggest advantages to this whole concept being floated around

946
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: about pooling media rites about one college football TV deal

947
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: is not about the revenue. You don't care about the

948
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: revenue cause your pockets don't ever see any of that money.

949
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: So the reason that a lot of people advocate for

950
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: one singil or college football TV deal is not the

951
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: same reason that you would care about it. For the

952
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: reason you care about it is what it would do

953
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: for the scheduling. And like, if you're an Ohio State

954
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: fan right now, you live in a world where you know,

955
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: any big game we have is going to kick off

956
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: at noon, if it's a conference game or a home game.

957
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: But in that world, what you know is, Okay, we

958
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: know we've got five or six big games this year,

959
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: but we could be playing on CBS, ESPN, ABC, Fox,

960
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: NBC and we don't know what time because there would

961
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: be schedule drafts every week and every network would participate.

962
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Now you're still going to play some noon games, but

963
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: you're going to play some primetime games as well. You're

964
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: going all different kind of broadcast crews come through there

965
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: over the course of the year. That's why I support

966
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: that concept. I don't care about the revenue. We're not

967
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: making that money, so I don't really care about it

968
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: for that reason. I care about it for reasons that

969
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: much more closely tie into just quality of the product

970
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: over a given year. I don't have any college football

971
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: games to tell you are coming up this week. I

972
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: think the Milwaukee Bucks are in action. I think we

973
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of concerts getting cranked up. It is

974
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: spring after all. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make

975
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: to you, if you're listening to a podcast, I'm not

976
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: talking about Ohio State anymore. But the point I'm trying

977
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: to make to you is it is ticket purchasing season,

978
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: not football yet. There's a lot of other stuff going on,

979
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of you are trying to

980
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: fill your calendars, out your entertainment calendars because pretty much

981
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: anyone who watches this show is locked in during the fall.

982
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: But in the spring, total wild Card, Total grab Bag,

983
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: you can be doing anything you want to anywhere. Make

984
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: sure you go to seat geek to purchase your tickets.

985
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: I do have the promo code. Someone asked. We get

986
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: like five or six people per week who say, hey,

987
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: is that promo code still live? Yes, it is. The

988
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: promo code at seat geek right before you check out

989
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: is paid TENA one zero, and that gets you ten

990
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: percent off any order up to two hundred dollars. Any

991
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: order over two hundred dollars, it just gets you twenty

992
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: dollars off. So we haven't quite gotten seat geek to

993
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: the to the point where they just give away tickets

994
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: for free. We're working on it, but we haven't gotten

995
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: them there yet, but they are willing to give you

996
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: a discount. We move on. Uh oh yeah. James asked

997
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: a question. I wanted to get to this. I meant

998
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: to get to it the other day, but were we

999
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: got all mixed up, papers got mixed up. These sorts

1000
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: of things happened. James from Dayton, Ohio said, after doing

1001
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: the ESPN thing for a full season, did it change

1002
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: the way you see college football or the show or

1003
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: yourself at all? Well, it didn't change the way I

1004
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: see myself. I don't think it changed the way I

1005
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: see the show. I guess I'll just tell you my

1006
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: biggest observation, James, My biggest observation is college football still

1007
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: massively undervalued. This bores some people, which I understand. I'm

1008
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: not going to spend a lot of time on it,

1009
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: but just kind of being around professionals whose jobs it

1010
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: is to negotiate media rights deals. I didn't grow up

1011
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: in that world, so a lot of times when I'm

1012
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: sitting at a table with someone like that, I just

1013
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: shut up and listen. And it is crystal clear when

1014
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: you shut up and listen to people who have negotiated

1015
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: in NFL, NBA, and college football. Like people who have

1016
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: been in all those rooms, college football is so massively undervalued.

1017
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: And I know, like people look at TV ratings and whatnot,

1018
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: that's downstream. I just mean the overall way the sport

1019
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: is treated, the way the sport is covered. That's one

1020
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: of the things that excited me the most about what

1021
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: ESPN did with us this past year, and we very

1022
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: much plan on that continuing. And that is I mean,

1023
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: we're going up to New York or either we're doing

1024
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: stuff remote here joining programming from Nashville, but you're talking

1025
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: college football sometimes on Mondays, a lot of times on Thursdays,

1026
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: and you're doing it on shows that frankly did not

1027
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: dedicate a ton of time until recently to college football.

1028
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: I love being a part of that. Love it. The

1029
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: other thing that you can take this or leave it

1030
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: is I grew up thinking some things, thinking some conspiracies

1031
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: were true. I had shared and trafficked in many conspiracy

1032
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: theories about major media, specifically sports media, and how they

1033
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: treat certain leagues, conferences, teams, brands, and look when you

1034
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: say so and so hates my team on a message

1035
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: board or Twitter or whatnot. I get it. I used

1036
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: to say it all the time. Now I had all

1037
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: the evidence in the world I needed. You know what

1038
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: my evidence was quotes usually taken out of context, but

1039
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I'm the one taking him out of context.

1040
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: Like I swore for a long time, Joe Buck hated

1041
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braids. How did I know that? Well, because

1042
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't quite emphatic enough on an Eddie Perez home

1043
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: run one Saturday in July, Game one of a double

1044
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: hitater against the Mets, and he could only sound that

1045
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: way if he secretly hates the Atlanta Braids. I felt

1046
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: these sorts of things, and I felt him about college football.

1047
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: So here's all I'll tell you. And I know there

1048
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: are people out there in the aggregation sphere waiting to

1049
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: take this and mock me for it. I can only

1050
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: give you my observations. Most of the conspiracy theories about

1051
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: sports media and the biases and the motivations and the

1052
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: hidden agendas kind of just become laughable when you get

1053
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: inside the bubble. But the great tradeoff, or the unfortunate

1054
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: trade off, is if you're inside that bubble, then people

1055
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: just look at you and say, oh, the worse, you're

1056
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: saying that once you're in the bubble, they got to you,

1057
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: they got to me. So you know, like, I have

1058
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: a partnership with ESPN, So anytime that I shoot down

1059
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory about how ESPN covers college football, well

1060
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: of course you would say that. So there's really no

1061
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: winner here. But James, you asked me what I learned,

1062
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: and what I learned is I was probably wrong or

1063
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: at the very least misguided about a lot of my

1064
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories from back in the day that I

1065
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: used to hold. And I was at CBS before ESPN,

1066
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: So take her to leave it. Moving on, this was

1067
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: a fascinating question that we had. No one's ever asked

1068
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: this before. Ryan is in Houston, Texas, and he said,

1069
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: I always think it's dumb to compare championship teams from

1070
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: different years. I agree with you, Ryan, he continues, Here's

1071
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: something I don't think is dumb. What are the worst

1072
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: playoff games we've ever seen? And immediately Georgia TCU's got

1073
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: to be number one. This was horrific, This was a sault,

1074
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: This was those are someone's kids in those white uniforms,

1075
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: and Georgia's just did stuff to them all night. So

1076
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: it was a sixty five to seven National Championship game.

1077
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: This is only three or four years ago, thirty eight

1078
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: to seven at halftime, five eighty nine to one, eighty

1079
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: eight total yard to jedge for Georgia. Georgia players like

1080
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter are soliciting snacks from the

1081
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: crowd and just eating chicken wings on the sideline, being

1082
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: handed food from fans. TCU can't do anything about it

1083
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: because they've long since been cooked right along with everything else.

1084
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: I was in the Fox Box for this game. What's

1085
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: the Fox Box? Well, the Fox Box is somewhere I'm

1086
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: not supposed to be. First off, it is a suite

1087
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: that Fox Sports quite literally has for their talent. Because

1088
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: the game was in Los Angeles. Fox is in Los Angeles.

1089
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm working for CBS at the time. It is a

1090
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: complete and utter dismantling on the field. So I was

1091
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: there with Canel and a few other people. Brady Quinn

1092
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: was there, and we went up to the Fox Box

1093
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: with Clatton the guys, and we were up in a suite.

1094
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: It's the only time I've ever watched a game from

1095
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: a suite. I'm not gonna apologize for it, because what

1096
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: else was I gonna do? It was sad, and you

1097
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: get this great build up. It's a college football season,

1098
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: and this is how we're gonna culminate it. So that

1099
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: was the splattering to end all splatterings. I ended up

1100
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: in enemy territory in a rival network's box. That's how

1101
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: bad it got. I went to a suite, That's how

1102
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: bad it was. Then we have Bama Michigan State from

1103
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. This was a semi final game, thirty eight

1104
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: to nothing. It was yet another one of those examples.

1105
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,479
Speaker 1: There were several Bama games like this in that era.

1106
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: Georgia did it too, where you're going into a game

1107
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: and you know, this kind of feels like a waste

1108
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: of time. What are we doing? What is Michigan State

1109
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: gonna do? What is Connor Cook gonna do? What are

1110
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: the very very best of scenarios? I think this is

1111
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: also one of those weeks where Tony Brown flipped out

1112
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: and went after Nick Sabins thrown at practice and had

1113
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: to send him home, and you all drama, drama, internal

1114
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: dissension for Alabama. No, No, it just turns out their

1115
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: practices were tougher than the game. It is Derrick Henry

1116
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: kind of messing around with the defensive lineman. There. All

1117
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: I remember about this game because I was there is

1118
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: I was in the parking lot of AT and T

1119
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: Stadium as midnight hit. It was New Year's Eve, and

1120
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: that's the only time I have ever been unaware that

1121
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: it's New Year's Eve. It's exactly midnight. Wow, it just

1122
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: became twenty sixteen or twenty fifteen, whichever one it was.

1123
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: Other than that, I don't have much recollection about that game.

1124
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: Next up, I stuck with the fourteen era, by the way,

1125
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: so I'm not doing the past two years, so it's

1126
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: just four team playoff era worst playoff games. I think

1127
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: that semi final game in twenty sixteen between Clemson and

1128
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State belongs on this list. Clemson just blew out

1129
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and Ohio State had three wins over top

1130
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: fifteen teams that year, and then this happened. It just

1131
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: got annihilated. Clemson was loaded because that was that team

1132
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: that had come so close against Bama in the title

1133
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: game the year before, and they were on their way

1134
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: eventually to winning a title. This year had to go

1135
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: through Ohio State first. Ohio State had no drive over

1136
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: fifty yards. Clemson had twenty four first downs to Ohio

1137
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: State's nine. Just a no show of a night for

1138
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State. It was bad. Who was it? J? T.

1139
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: Barrett I think was quarterback and Deshaun Watson and just

1140
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: a complete and utter loaded wide receiver room for Clemson.

1141
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: I also think the semi final game in twenty twenty

1142
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: one between Georgia and Michigan belonged on this list. So

1143
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy was seven to seventeen in this game. Cad

1144
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: macnamara was eleven of nineteen for two interceptions. We were

1145
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: at this game, and it's just it's you can tell

1146
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: so early it's not happening. It's not happening. Georgia's skill

1147
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: group was loaded. Man, if you go back and look

1148
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: at that roster, it was twenty seven to three at halftime.

1149
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: And it's just I was on the field for the

1150
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: second half of the game. And it's so weird in

1151
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: these sorts of environments because it's been a huge build

1152
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: up and it's a playoff game. You have a whole

1153
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: week where the teams are on location, you had a

1154
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: media day like, you have all that stuff, and then

1155
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: it's just total blowout and you're standing on the field

1156
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: and it's so anti climactic. You're watching at home, or

1157
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: maybe you're tuned out by the second half, and it's

1158
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: so anti climactic and you're like, this, this is a

1159
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: playoff game. The Bama Cincinnati semi final. Same year, two

1160
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: semi finals were Georgia over Michigan, Bama over Cincinnati. This game,

1161
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: this Bama Cincinnati game, was really similar to that year

1162
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: Bama played Washington and I think it was like twenty

1163
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: four to six or something like that. The scores were

1164
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: almost identical. Bama had three hundred and one rushing yards

1165
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. All they had to do was just lean

1166
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: the whole game. They just knew, our roster is that

1167
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 1: much better than theirs. Cincinnati was a G five team,

1168
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: by the way, at this point, people kind of have

1169
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: memory hold the fact that a G five team made

1170
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: a four team playoff and it was totally legit. Like

1171
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: everyone including me, thought Cincinnati is rightfully in this playoff.

1172
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: That was about as far as they were going to go.

1173
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: But it was a lean on him game. Just our

1174
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: roster is Bama, your roster, Cincinnati, and that's it. The

1175
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: only thing we can do is lose this game ourselves,

1176
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: and they didn't. And then the last one was probably

1177
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: the most TVMA of all the playoff games outside of

1178
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: that national title game with Georgia TCU. How well do

1179
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: you remember twenty nineteen? You remember LSU goes and wins

1180
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: a national title. Do you remember the semifinal? LSU played

1181
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma in the semifinals in twenty nineteen. It was forty

1182
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: nine to fourteen at halftime. LSU somehow figured out a

1183
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: way to hang forty nine in the first half, and

1184
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: they punted at one point in the first half. Let

1185
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: me put it another way, Oklahoma scored touchdowns in every

1186
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: quarter of a playoff game and still lost by thirty five.

1187
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: And this was Lincoln Riley's Oklahoma. This is when we

1188
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: first started to realize, you know, there may be a

1189
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: problem defensively here, there may be a little bit of

1190
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: a fly in the ointment here with the Lincoln Riley formula.

1191
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: This was so bad. I was an Atlanta Oh man,

1192
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: I just with all these games. You remember the second

1193
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: half and you're just kind of saying, oh man, You're

1194
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: like checking the clock, how long is left? The good

1195
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: news is the crowd's gonna thin out so traffic won't

1196
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: be bad outside. Those are the worst ones I can remember.

1197
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: If such thing as a bad playoff game exists. I

1198
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: didn't go expanded era, so that was I guess what

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Speaker 1: were checking out the Heisman board earlier today because you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot's happened with Trinidad Chamblis. There is no sure

1204
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Speaker 1: sign of that than if you look at the Heisman

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Speaker 1: market right now. Over at FanDuel, we have co favorites

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Speaker 1: to win the Heisman. Mind you, it is early March,

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Speaker 1: so let's be responsible about how we talk about this. CJ.

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Speaker 1: Lastly on the docket for tonight. Appreciate you guys being

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Speaker 1: tuned in live. If you are, make sure you're subscribed

1238
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Speaker 1: to the channel. We do the mood tracker pretty much

1239
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: every show this time of year, which is quite simply

1240
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: designed to take the temperature of various fan bases, and

1241
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: we chose Penn State tonight. It is the Jesse Memorial show.

1242
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Speaker 1: Even though he's still alive, I'm looking at him right now.

1243
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 1: Penn State's mood. I came up with a very specific

1244
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: mood for Penn State. The mood amongst Penn State fans

1245
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: right now is what I call survivors adrenaline. So if

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Speaker 1: you've ever been in a near death experience and then

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you look around and you realize,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, I'm alive. There's a kind of adrenaline that

1249
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: kicks in. This happens in stormchasing a lot, so I've

1250
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: been around it before, and you feel like you can

1251
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: take on the world. You feel like, wow, if that

1252
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Speaker 1: didn't take me out, that must be my lucky day.

1253
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: Penn State. From a football perspective. Penn State fans from

1254
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: purely a football perspective have to have like the most

1255
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: severe case of survivors adrenaline in the modern era, because

1256
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Speaker 1: if you think about this time last year leading up

1257
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: to the season, this is it, this is our year.

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01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: We got Drew Back, we got a veteran team. Look

1259
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Speaker 1: at that tailback room, look at this defense. What we're

1260
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: going to be top five preseason, look at how the

1261
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: schedule sets up. And then it crashed and burned and

1262
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: you lose to Oregon, and you lose to UCLA and

1263
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: you lose to Northwestern, and then James Franklin is fired

1264
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: by Halloween, and then the search immenses and it's ugly

1265
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: and it is discombobulated. No one knows which direction it's going.

1266
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: And we got Signetti re upping in Indiana, Matt Rule

1267
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: is he or is he not a candidate? And we

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: got like five or ten other names that are in

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Speaker 1: the equation. Then they're not in the equation, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: we fired James Franklin, no one wants the job. Who

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Speaker 1: are we gonna go get? And then you got certain

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Speaker 1: shows who said from the get go, you need to

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Speaker 1: go get Matt Campbell, and for reasons that are at

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Speaker 1: this point well enough documented, they didn't target him immediately. Well,

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Speaker 1: then they finally circle back around fifty three days later,

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Speaker 1: all hope seems lost, and then Matt Campbell says yes.

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Speaker 1: And then Matt Campbell brings a vast majority of the

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Speaker 1: top of his roster with him, And you did a

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Speaker 1: fairly decent job of retention, and Penn State looks to

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Speaker 1: be okay this year. But more so than just this year,

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Speaker 1: Penn State as a football program could have been ejected

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Speaker 1: clear out into the Big Ten wilderness. You could have

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Speaker 1: been hanging out with Maryland and Rutgers. It could have

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Speaker 1: gone that far downhill. And instead Penn State. They could

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Speaker 1: win ten games this year. It's a workable schedule, it's

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Speaker 1: a good roster. You don't have a quarterback needing to

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Speaker 1: learn a new system or anything like that. They went

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Speaker 1: and got one of the premier defensive coordinators in college

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Speaker 1: football in Downton Len out of USC. Penn State's fine.

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Speaker 1: After all that, Penn State's fine. It's like you were.

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: You were left for dead as a program, and you

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: were mocked and you were ridiculed rightfully. So by the

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Speaker 1: way the coaching search was a disaster, and the cars

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Speaker 1: rolling and it's rolling and then it comes to a

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: stop and wow, we landed on our tires. Wow, seat

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Speaker 1: belt was on, airbags deployed. We're good. I cannot believe it.

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Speaker 1: We're fine. We're good. And Matt Cambell's your head coach. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it could have turned out any better.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. And I'm not talking about Penn

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Speaker 1: State fans here, but administratively, I don't know if Penn

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Speaker 1: State deserved for it to turn out as well as

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Speaker 1: it did. But it turned out much better than it

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Speaker 1: should have. So that is the mood amongst Penn State

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Speaker 1: fans now. And I do think and I said it

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Speaker 1: from the beginning that Matt Campbell was at Iowa State

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I know Matt Campbell fairly well.

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Speaker 1: There were not many places he was ever going to

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Speaker 1: entertain leaving ames Iowa for because he loved it there.

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Speaker 1: He loved Toledo before he went to Iowa State. So

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Speaker 1: Matt Campbell's not a guy who's just kind of looking

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Speaker 1: for the next big thing, looking for the next big job.

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Speaker 1: He turned down a lot of them. But I always

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Speaker 1: thought that Penn State was one of about five maximum

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Speaker 1: jobs that he may leave for because what it's about

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Speaker 1: at its core is what Matt Campbell is about at

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Speaker 1: his core. I really think it's just it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like a puzzle piece fit. I say that sometimes when

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Speaker 1: I describe a coach whose DNA, whose values and principles

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Speaker 1: really closely aligned with the program, he's out of the

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Speaker 1: program he's going to. That is Matt Campbell going to

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Speaker 1: Penn State. And ma'am, I know, if you're a fan,

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Speaker 1: you had no control over the way the season played

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Speaker 1: out last year or the way the coaching search turned out.

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Speaker 1: But yet you're living and dying with every heartbeat of

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Speaker 1: the program. And to look at where we are now,

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Speaker 1: especially compared to where it could have gone and how

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Speaker 1: badly it could have gone off the rails, that's survivor adrenaline.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys watching the show. We'll probably do a

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Speaker 1: podcast Tuesday. Sometimes it gets released on Wednesday morning, but

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Speaker 1: I record it Tuesday. That's in the podcast feed only.

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Speaker 1: Our next live show will be Thursday night. Here, so

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Speaker 1: get everything combined. I am hungry. I am told actually

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Speaker 1: I have not been told that dinner is ready at

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Speaker 1: this point. I just have to hope that dinner is ready.

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Speaker 1: Wore the wedding ring on air tonight. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: know I'm improving myself. I don't know what else to

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Speaker 1: tell you. Appreciate you guys so much. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: back on this channel Thursday night. For director Bradley, producer Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Let's have a great start to our week.

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