1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: We are going to be spanning the globe today. We're 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: going to Ukraine in the next segment to find out 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: what it's like on the ground there in Kiev, if 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that correctly. I know there's been a lot 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: of dispute and we have got just so many different 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: stories to chase down the Canadian truckers, the latest on 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the Durham probe, all that and more. But I wanted 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: to start with some positive news. I saw this and 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I said, my goodness, the mom revolution which swept Glenn 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Junken into office in Virginia. The outraged parents are grabbing 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: pitchforks all over the country and this was staggering if 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: you did not see it, Buck, do you remember all 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the discussion in the middle of COVID about the crazy 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: people on the San Francisco Board of Education who were 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: renaming schools that had been named after George Washington and 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln and even Diane Feinstein. They were trying to 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: rename every school basically in San Francisco. They were simultaneously attempting. 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: And this is a big story that I think is 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: only going to grow to limit the number of Asian 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: students who were at allowed into their high performing high schools. 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: They were simultaneously also deluding the merit there and all 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: of these things also not allowing them to go to 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: school for so long. So parents got fed up and 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: they decided to recall many of the San Francisco Board 27 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: school board members and Buck. The results are mindblowing. Over 28 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: seventy percent of all San Francisco voters voted to recall 29 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the super left wing, wildly out of touch progressive members 30 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: of the city school board. And it wasn't even close. 31 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Allison Collins recall seventy eight percent in favor of it. 32 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: These are San Francisco voters. Gabriella Lopez seventy four percent 33 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: in favor of it, Foga Malaiga and I may be 34 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: mispronouncing his name seventy one percent in favor of it. 35 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: We've talked about Northern Virginia, We've talked about the school 36 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: board meetings that I went to myself here in the 37 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Nashville area. But Buck, when I saw these election results 38 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: come in last night, I said, my goodness, not only 39 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: are we headed for a potential disaster in red and 40 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: purple areas, right red states and purple states like I 41 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: would still say Virginia might be classified. When Sam Cisco voters, 42 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: the most illiberal in the entire country, are saying we 43 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: are sick of left wing, woke politics in our schools. 44 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: That is a monumental statement that is being made. The 45 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Biden administration should be running scared. AOC should be curled 46 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: up in the fetal position. This ain't good for the 47 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: Bernie crew. The Democrats have failed children all across America. 48 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: That's obvious. That much is just apparent to everybody. Whether 49 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: this will translate into and but they're still calling for 50 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: masking of children in schools, the official I watched some 51 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: of them. We'll talk about it later, Clay. So I 52 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: know we've got our Ukraine on the ground from our 53 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: friend to Nolan Peterson. Ukraine update coming in a few moments. 54 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: But I watched the COVID Task Force this morning, and 55 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: they still have the top doctors saying, you know, yeah, 56 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: masking good, mask up kids in schools. But one of 57 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: these things that there are only a few areas, it 58 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: feels like where people really understand where they're interacting with 59 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the state, with the government in a way that affects them. 60 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Used to be about the DMV. I'd be honest with you, 61 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, and he's actually gotten pretty decent. People talk 62 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: to V. I'm like, I got it and out in 63 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: five minutes last time I was, there is no big deal. 64 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: But the public school system, oh that matters. That matters 65 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: to your kids, It matters to the adults who not 66 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: only want the best for their children, but also rely 67 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: on that for their schedule so they can do their 68 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: job during the day. And the entirely democrat dominated sector 69 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: of public education in America, in blue states and even 70 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: in purple states was an abject failure for children and 71 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: adults all across the country during the pandemic. And they 72 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: have not even been willing to see accountability. I haven't 73 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: even willing to say we were wrong, We're sorry. They're 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: still doing this stuff, they're still pushing this stuff. And 75 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: when you listen to some of the COVID commissars out there, Clay, 76 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: they're talking about how to get ready all in schools 77 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: for the next time. They're already thinking about, well, the 78 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: next COVID season, the next so they haven't repudiated this. 79 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: They haven't said we're sorry, And when you think about it, 80 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: in a place like San Francisco, they finally Now, does 81 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: this mean people are gonna vote Republican? I think the 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: answers no. And this is what's so frustrating. Look what 83 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: happened with Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom's poll numbers still stink 84 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: because Gavin Newsom sucks at his job. He is bad 85 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: at this right, But they wouldn't vote for a Republican. 86 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: So there's this disconnect. It's like Democrats go, Okay, well 87 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: that's too crazy, but I can't vote for the insurrectionist, 88 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: white nationalist Republicans. San Francisco is not going to change 89 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: its politics. But to your initial point, the mobilization of 90 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: parents and the extreme wokeness that's even too much for 91 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: the left are hopefully a potent cocktail for the upcoming 92 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: minterm elections that will deliver where it can be delivered, 93 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: stinging rebukes to these lunatics for what we've been up against, 94 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: a real slap down because what they when, by the way, 95 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: we started saying it here on the show, that massing 96 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: up children was child abuse. Yes, now I see it 97 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: all over conservative media, everyone says massing up children is 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: child abuse. I had never heard it anywhere before we 99 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: said it. I'm just gonna play, which is, by the way, good. 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: I want people to listen to what we're saying. I 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: hear the word apparatus now more than every before in 102 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: the conservative media. Yes, it is a good word. Use it, 103 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: take it, run with it. We have to keep this going. 104 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Play because I think we can all see what the 105 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: Democrat plan is. What do you mean we got through 106 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: it. It It was great through no mandates. It's cool, it's fine, 107 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: we did a great job either. Just the gas lighting 108 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: will be thermonuclear it. When I went to that school 109 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: board meeting in August, I called you right after and 110 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I said, this is going to be massive, and it 111 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: has spread so quickly. And to your point, yes, I 112 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: think you are right about the way that people might 113 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: feel nervous to even consider voting for a Republican in 114 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: San Francisco because so much of their identity is wrapped 115 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: up in the idea of I'm a liberal, I'm a progressive. 116 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: But what they're recognizing in San Francisco is they don't 117 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: actually like the liberal and progressive governing right it's very 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: great when you're on social media and you're like, you know, 119 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: let's throw up the power fist. Let's talk about how 120 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: much BLM matters. Let's talk about how we are so 121 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with white guilt. But where that leads you is 122 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: to a noxious place. And what is fascinating to me, Buck, 123 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: is I think there is a massive number of people 124 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: out there, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. Every parent has a 125 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: great deal in common because your number one goal when 126 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: you become a parent is what for your kids to 127 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: be highly educated as well as they can and hopefully 128 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: be more successful in life than you are, or at 129 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: least happy, right and productive. 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Nolan, 166 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Thank you for having me. 167 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: Just you gotta tell us, man, what is the state 168 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: of play right now? Because a couple of days ago, 169 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: news reports in the US were gonna be an invasion Wednesday, 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: as of yesterday was actually Putin's moving away from it 171 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: looks like there's not going to be a war. What's 172 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: happening in Ukraine? Right So, after months of the build up, 173 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: Russia now has enough military's firepower on Ukraine's borders to 174 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: execute sort of the worst case scenario, which is a 175 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: countrywide invasion, possibly in circumtious keys, most likely preceded by 176 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: ways of air strikes in this while at text to 177 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, and such massive casualties and ucras of the the 178 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: military rest at bat like a desert storm type of 179 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: conflict is what we're looking at. The US intelligence community, 180 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: I think determined based on whatever intelligence they have available, 181 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: that by today Russia was ready to attack. Whether or 182 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: not today was d Day or not, you know, I 183 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: don't think everybody knows, but today is the day that 184 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: they are capable of executing the attack. There have been 185 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: reports from Moscow that they had started to pull back 186 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: some troops, but today NATO, the US, and multiple open 187 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: source intelligence Oubservers noted that Russia is actually increasing its 188 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: military forces around Ukraine. So I think, you know, we 189 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: were in the dangerous period right now, the build up 190 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: phases of this is over. The waiting game has begun, 191 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: and so now Russia's tactic effectively is to just cloud 192 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: the information space, which is with as much confusion as possible, 193 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: to make us not know what's coming next, and to 194 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: make us second guests or assumptions, and also to have 195 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: the element of surprise. We know that they are poised 196 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: to attack, we do not know when. There is, of 197 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: course always the possibility that Putin could walk this back 198 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: and decide to change course, but at the moment we 199 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: have to take this deadly seriously because Russia does have 200 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the firepower in place to execute what would effectively be 201 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: the largest land invasion in Europe since World War Two Nolan. 202 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: When I think about living in Ukraine, I can't imagine 203 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: what it feels like to have this potentially hanging over 204 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: your head. What does it feel like in Kiev and 205 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: throughout Ukraine as the possible ability of this invasion looms? 206 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: What is it like in the streets. What does it 207 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: feel like among the populace? What are you seeing? Is 208 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: there a palpable fear or do people seem to believe 209 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. Yeah? So, an analogy I'd 210 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: use quite often recently is that I grew up in Florida, 211 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: and this really reminds me of those days right before 212 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: major hurricanes about to hit, where you're trying to decide 213 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: do I stay, do I flee? What do I do? 214 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Do I buy much of canned food? Do I fill 215 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: the bathtub up with water? Like? People are trying to 216 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: make these decisions, and you know, it's it's surreal. You know. 217 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: I watched the movie Schindler's List last night, and I 218 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: just feel like we're living through this moment that it 219 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: just can't believe that this is happening in twenty twenty two. 220 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: You know, here a European capital, some three to four 221 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: million people, people, families are making decisions like do become 222 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: a refugee in the middle of winter, do I stay 223 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: put and write out a potential rushing bombing attack, or 224 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: many people have decided to take up arms and potentially 225 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: fight should Russia invade. So it's really, you know, just 226 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: an extraordinary moment. You see life basically going on as normal. 227 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: Hearing keys. I mean, you know, what choice do people 228 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: have but to go on about their lives. And I 229 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: think that many Western journalists get it wrong a little 230 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: bit when they see life going on. They think, oh, well, 231 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: the people here don't think it seriously. But remember this 232 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: country has been a war for eight years already. Russia 233 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: invaded this country in twenty fourteen, so that people here 234 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: they're a little bit desensitized, I'd say, and that's right 235 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: of violence because they've lived with the war in their 236 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: country now since twenty fourteen. And you know, as an American, 237 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: I can say too that the Ukrainian culture is not 238 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: a culture where they wear their emotions on their sleeves 239 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: like we do in America and so their stoic nature 240 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: as they endure this very tough situation is quite impressive. 241 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: And I you know, I have to say too, the 242 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: way civil society is stepping up and preparing civilians for 243 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: the war is amazing. You know. You see a nation 244 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: of people who are not waiting for their government to 245 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: save them. And as an American, especially American veteran, I'd 246 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: say I'm quite impressed. Inspiring. But what I've been seeing 247 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: here in Ukraine recently, Nolan we're speaking of Nolan Peterson. 248 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: He is on the ground in the capital of Ukraine 249 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: and Kiev and as he says, the calm before what 250 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: may be the storm of a major Russian invasion. Maybe 251 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: we don't know Nolan to that point, what would Putin 252 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: possibly get out of this such that it would have 253 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: been worth it to gather what over one hundred and 254 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: thirty thousand troops of preparation for really a three pronged 255 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: invasion if he wants it, and then nothing? What could 256 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: he get? What is the prize that would keep him 257 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: from going in? Right? So I think right now, you know, 258 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: if somebody subscribes to the notion is all bluff, you know, 259 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I would say, like, what is he achieved at this 260 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: point to justify his bluff? Right, Like Vito is certainly 261 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: more united. Ukraine has been receiving waves of weapons from 262 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: its Western partners, and the Ukrainian people is they are resolutely, 263 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, stepfast in their commitment to democracy and their 264 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: western trajectory away from Russia. So I'd say that Russia, 265 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: besides creating chaos, has really achieved nothing. Does all these 266 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: speculations about what this attack will look like, right, whether 267 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be another so called hybrid war or 268 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: a land bridge the Crimea or whatnot. And I have 269 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: a bit more pessimistic viewpoint because I think that you know, Russia, 270 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: the Kremlin isn't looking for a land bridge to Crimea. 271 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: They're not looking for another gray zone war. They're looking 272 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: to fundamentally reverse Ukraine's trajectory toward the West. And if 273 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: that's Moscow's goal, that they're not going to achieve that 274 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: with some little Green Men attack in the east. That 275 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: will require an attack on Keys to change the government. 276 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: And so I think that's why we should be really concerned, 277 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: because Moscow's intent here is to fundamentally reverse Ukraine's western trajectory. 278 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: And so that I think telegraphs you know the type 279 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: of conflict we're looking at, and that maximalist aim certainly 280 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: signals very very significant military action. Nolan, How will the 281 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Ukrainian people react? Not only the military you mentioned sort 282 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: of a Gulf War style invasion. What we saw in 283 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Iraq was many of the soldiers basically threw down their 284 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: weapons and refused to do the battle for for Saddam Hussein. 285 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: How committed do you think the Ukrainian people are too 286 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: resisting this Russian attack in the event it comes. But 287 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: that's a good point, and I think you know as 288 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: a as an American veteran who I served in both 289 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan, where we were prodding societies to embrace 290 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: denotion of democracy. Right, but this is a country that 291 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: chose democracy on their own eight years ago, and they 292 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: have fight tooth and nail for the last eight years 293 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: to keep those dreams alive. They're not fighting Ukraine, they 294 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: have not fought for the past eight years, and don't 295 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: boss to join NATO. They're fighting to remain a sovereign country, 296 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: to choose their own destiny, to be a free country 297 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: free from Russian depression. And so I think that, you know, 298 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: many Ukrainians see this as an existential fight, a fight 299 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: that they're you know, fathers and forefathers have been fighting 300 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: for generations during the Soviet period and the nineties to 301 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: get rid of this Russian malign influence over their society. 302 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: And so I have no doubt, based on what I've seen, 303 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: that if the Ukrainian regular art military is defeated on 304 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: the field of battle, the Ukrainian nation will step up 305 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and continue the fight. My fifty seven year old father 306 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: in law has vowed to take up arms and fight. 307 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: He's a former Soviet Army soldier and he's going to 308 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: fight against Russians if they come into their own town. 309 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: So I have no doubt that the Ukrainian nation is 310 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: prepared to waging the surgency. That said, however, you know, 311 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: insurgencies aren't things that tappen overnight. You don't flip on 312 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: a switch and suddenly have an insurgency ready to rock. 313 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: So I think that that would take time. And I 314 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: think that, you know, a major Russian attack will likely 315 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: be extraordinarily violent and fast, and it may slip such 316 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: an amount of damage on Ukraine's infrastructure and military that 317 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Russia could achieve his goals with them in such a 318 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: short time that the insurgency wouldn't have time to take root. Nolan, 319 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: please stay safe out there, man. We'll have you back. 320 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Nolan Peterson, Senior Editor, Coffee or Dime Magazine. I was fantastic, 321 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, my man. 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Courage you to go sign up for the podcast. 336 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you just got in your car and you're like, 337 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: oh man, I miss that. Well. First hour of the 338 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: show will be up soon after the show ends. You 339 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search 340 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: out Buck Sexton. You can go give us five stars. 341 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: Dub is sitting here right now. Have you been reviewing 342 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: the reviews? He gives me a thumbs up to let 343 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: me know that he has. We will have those soon 344 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: as Dub as the reviews are and breaking all that down. 345 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: But from Ukraine to the United States, we started off 346 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: with the parent revolution that is sweeping across the entire nation, 347 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: even including California, where it's worth mentioning Buck. Joe Biden 348 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: has a negative approval rating right now in California. When 349 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: do you think the last time a Democratic president had 350 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: a negative approval rating in the state of California. I 351 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you of fan. I'm just happy to see 352 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: that it is possible to make commies so miserable in 353 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: their commie policies that they go maybe this isn't a 354 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: good idea. Remember Maryland, Hawaii, Vermont, Massachusetts. We talked about 355 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: that yesterday. The only four states right now that have 356 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: a positive view of Joe Biden's presidency makes me wonder 357 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: what in the world people in those four states are thinking. 358 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: But a big part of the negativity for Joe Biden. 359 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: There are many things we could cite. Certainly inflation is 360 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: right at the top of the list for everyone around 361 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: the United States, I would say, but also many kids 362 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: still having to wear masks, and the failures to get 363 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: back to normalcy. After Joe Biden claimed that he was 364 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: going to shut down COVID, he obviously has not done that. 365 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: And Rachelle Willinski was asked just a little bit ago 366 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: the director of the CDC, hey, when are you guys 367 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: going to adjust your guidance and tell people they don't 368 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: have to where these worthless masks that do nothing to 369 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: prevent the spread of COVID. She wasn't actually asked that. 370 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: That's me telling you that she should have been asked. 371 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: That's the question. If there was actually a legitimate media 372 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: looking at the real data, that's the question she should 373 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: have been asked. But she was asked when the mask 374 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: mandate is going to be gone? This is what she said. 375 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: We are assessing the most important factors based on where 376 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: we are in the pandemic, and we'll soon put guidance 377 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: in place that is relevant and encourages prevention measures when 378 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: they are most needed to protect public health and our hospitals. 379 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: We want to give people a break from things like 380 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: mask wearing when these metrics are better, and then have 381 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: the ability to reach for them again should things worsens. Yes, 382 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: she can shut up. We've had enough of her. What 383 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: have I been saying, Clay? Every day I'm losing. I 384 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: keep telling everybody they are not done. If you think that, 385 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: and for people say, oh, it's not my problem. You 386 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: ever want to ride a plane again? Do you ever 387 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: want to go into government building again? They are not done. 388 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: This whole game they're playing is yeah, we're just following 389 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: the science, So we're happy to give you a break 390 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: for a little bit before we bring all this crap 391 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: back next winter, even though it doesn't work. They are 392 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: saying this is a pause. They are not saying we'll 393 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: never do this again until we finally get to the 394 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: point where they will admit that they failed on everything. 395 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: They annoyed the crap out of us for no reason, 396 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: and they're never gonna do this again. I'm not done. 397 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm not done, Clay. I get it. I think Joe 398 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: Biden's going to announce an into the mask mandate on 399 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: March first in a state of the Union. That's my 400 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: prediction that Joe Biden is going that they're waiting because 401 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: if you look at the data right now, Buck, it's 402 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: coming down precipitously. There doesn't I feel like I need 403 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: to knock on wood when I say it. There doesn't 404 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: appear to be a variant that is spreading rapidly anywhere 405 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: around the country right now. I remember they surprised a 406 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: lot of people last May when they came out and 407 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: removed the mask mandate then and then they almost immediately 408 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: had to walk it back while it was still summer. 409 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: I think March first, Joe Biden wants to do away 410 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: with it. And look, the reality is by March first, 411 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: almost every state is going to have done away with 412 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: the mask mandates. I really do think. Now. Unfortunately, they're 413 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: doing it backwards right, so kids are still going to 414 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: be a mask. But the first people who should be 415 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: out of there is no federal mask mandate, right. So 416 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: are you saying that he'll get rid of it on planes? 417 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Because I know I think, I think, I think the 418 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: CDs he will have and I'm proud to it. This 419 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: is my prediction, and I'm proud to announced that the 420 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: CDC is now saying that they are no longer recommending 421 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: a man. Right, that's what they did in May, and 422 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: he's just like that the walmarts and everybody else. But 423 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be so far behind where everybody is. Yeah, 424 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: a bright red line is planes. Okay, If it's still 425 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: on planes, it's the mask thing is not over. And 426 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: it's just a question of when they're gonna bring all 427 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: the crap back and they're gonna be masking up your 428 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: kids in New York and California again. If he goes, 429 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: if he says no more on planes, then I would say, oh, interesting, 430 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: they really had a sign that the polling was truly 431 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: awful if he took it off on airplanes, right, and look, 432 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: people could still wear them on airplanes. I take it 433 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: as a good sign buck that Southwest Airlines has announced 434 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: that they're going to start serving alcohol again. Fauci has 435 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: been asked about specifically. First of all the booze on 436 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: planes and all the fighting and all the things that 437 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: have been going on. It's because they're constricting your ability 438 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: to breathe normally in a very uncomfortable and high stress 439 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: environment where the rules are shut up in obey already. Okay, 440 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: that's why there are fights, it's not. You don't need 441 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: be a clinical psychologist to figure that out. And here's 442 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Fauci though, being asked about the plane masking issue. I 443 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: don't want to get ahead of the decision making crosses 444 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: because of a lot of it is going to depend 445 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: on what I mentioned just a moment ago, namely the 446 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: trajectory of that downward dynamic, because if things start plateau, 447 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: we get going up, which I don't think they will. 448 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: I hope they won't. But we want to make sure 449 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: that when we make a decision, it's based on the 450 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: science as we see it at that time, and it 451 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: continues to change. Fortunately fortunately for us, it's going in 452 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: the right direction right now. And I think when the 453 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: time comes for any kind of a policy decision to 454 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: be made, it will be based on the data as 455 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: it is. So why don't we just hold off before 456 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: we make any predictions about that? Isn't it fascinating to 457 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: hear Fauci say let's not get ahead of ourselves, let's 458 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: wait for the numbers, when in reality, this is the 459 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: guy how many times did you hear him say, Cleaver 460 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: the last two years, I am horrified at the prospect 461 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: of mass death and anarchy from the virus going, you know, like' 462 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: you know the surge is coming over there. Sometimes wrong, 463 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: usually wrong. Maybe once in a while he got it right, 464 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: because you know, he can't be wrong all the time, 465 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: and you're making predictions. But now he doesn't want to 466 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: give us, Eddie, why can't he tell us what the 467 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: metrics are, what the numbers are. At this level, we 468 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: will stop, Clay. They are obsessed with being able to 469 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: control everybody, you know, they're addicted to this. Well. And 470 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: remember it was only like six weeks ago that Joe 471 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Biden said if you weren't vaccinated, you were going to 472 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: have an awful winter of death. Remember that statement that 473 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: came out from the White House. And there were a 474 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: bunch of experts who said January and February, the hospitals 475 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: are going to get overrun again. And fortunately that didn't 476 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: end up happening with omicron, although the death numbers buck 477 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: got really close to the all time highs that were 478 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: set on now, I think a lot of that is 479 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: just death with omicron, right, which has been the case 480 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: for a long time, people are not dying of COVID 481 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: as much as they are dying with COVID. And you've 482 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: got so many people who were unhealthy and elderly and 483 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: they have three or four or five different comorbidities and 484 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: one of them is COVID. But I do think, I 485 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: do think that the desperation of the Biden administration is 486 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: going to lead to First of all, the CDC removing 487 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: the mask mandate is big because a lot of school 488 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: districts right now are saying the reason we have to 489 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: put kids in masks because the CDC still recommends it. 490 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: And I think Biden will take that away on March first. 491 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the state of the Union. 492 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: We've got our friend Sarah Carter joining us in the 493 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: third hour of the program today to talk us from 494 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: Fox News. You all know Sarah. 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I'm not 528 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: sure about a mask mandate, but how about a muzzle 529 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: for college kids that are walking around yelling reinstate the 530 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: mask mandate. I mean, you've got to be kidding me, Clay. 531 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: We've got people in their twenties in eighteen, nineteen, twenty 532 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: twenty one walking around demanding to have their faces covered 533 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: up and be unable to breathe normally because they really think, 534 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: now this is it's it's a virtue signaling maneuver for people. Well, 535 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the data show, doesn't matter anyone else. 536 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: This is what I mean. Though, there are people who 537 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: like to be controlled. They like that Fauci is this 538 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: little lab coat tyrant who walks around and tells them 539 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: what to do. They want this to continue. That's what's scary, 540 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: to me is can you ever remember a time if 541 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: you went to college, can you remember a time where 542 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: you were on campus demanding that people in power regulate 543 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: you more. I can't ever remember a time. I mean, 544 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: usually in college, you're rebelling, You're trying to sneak alcohol 545 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: into a dorm room. If it's a single sex or 546 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: dorm room, you're trying to sneak boys or girls into 547 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: the dorm room. You are maybe trying some illicit substances 548 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: that otherwise. I'm just saying, usually college is a time 549 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: of rebellion and experimentation. And so when I hear these loops, 550 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: first of all, they're a University of Nevada students. Nothing 551 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: is stopping you from wearing a mask if you want 552 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. All they have done this is 553 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: so key. All they're doing is saying everybody doesn't have 554 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: to wear one. And so imagine that you are such 555 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: a loser one that you haven't in two and a 556 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: half years been able to actually look at the data 557 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: and realize that every college kid on campus has virtually 558 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: a zero percent risk of COVID. You're more likely to 559 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: die driving to the COVID mask protest than you are 560 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: to actually, no doubt, not even close. Yeah, so they 561 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: don't know the actual facts. But then to be walking 562 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: around screaming. I mean, but can you even think of 563 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: a precedent of this on a college campus that you 564 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: would be walking around telling people in positions of authority 565 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: that you want them to regulate you more well speech. 566 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Actually that the left does this with They want college 567 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: administrators to shut down free speech all the time. So 568 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: I do think that there is I think there is 569 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: an authoritarian bent. There is an authoritarian scary to me, 570 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: think about where these kids get older, like, who are 571 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: there not voting for? Report? What you see is the 572 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: whole Berkeley free speech college sixties seventies movement and the 573 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: hippies and all that stuff. They were actually just using 574 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Olynskyite tactics to undermine a system so that they could 575 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: replace it and they could be in power. They weren't 576 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: looking for freedom. And this is why the modern liberal, 577 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: the actual classical liberals that used to exist somewhere in 578 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party have essentially effectively evaporated, because it was 579 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: really just about getting a shift in power, not the 580 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: dispersal and elimination of concentrated power. And I think people 581 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: understand that, which is the way we open the show. 582 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Even in San Francisco. They understand that the woke virus, 583 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't end sooner or later. You have to stand 584 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: up and destroy it, which is what I think needs 585 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: to happen in the midterm. Yeah, twenty percent of the country. 586 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: I always remember this, folks, The Bolsheviks never were a 587 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: majority in the Soviet or in the pre Soviet Union. 588 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the hardliners get to make the determinations 589 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: for everybody else. Twenty percent of this country, paranoid about COVID, 590 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: will ruin it for the rest of the country if 591 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: they can. So we're gonna have to keep fighting on 592 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: this stuff. And I mean, they really do deserve they 593 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: deserve humiliation for this. I'm sorry, but it's true. They've 594 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: been I'm actually not sorry. Sorry, I'm not sorry. They 595 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: deserve to be mocked in ridicule for walking around with 596 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: two masks on outside alone. It was dumb, and they 597 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: made other people do it, which was which was the 598 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: huge problem that I had with it. I think you're right, 599 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: by the way when you said the biggest obstacle we 600 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: have to normalcy is people not wanting to admit that 601 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: they were wrong, and all those red state Trumps supporting 602 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: redneck losers racist, you know, homophobic, however they want to 603 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: classify them, we're actually one hundred percent right, you remember, 604 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: And with the masks ending, you know, it's kind of 605 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: like remember William Wallace says, you know what happens if 606 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: we don't take that chance. Nothing? You know what's going 607 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: to happen if we take our masks off. Nothing, And 608 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: they'd be fine, there would be right of admitting that 609 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: they put their kids in masks for two years. I 610 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: a hundred percent believe this is true. And there is 611 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: a stubbornness to just a refusal to admit that they 612 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: were wrong. That is making them commit their worldview and 613 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: play as you know, I grew up in New York. 614 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm as I'm as New York in terms of life, 615 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: you know, life spent in this city as anybody could 616 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: possibly be. And I know it's the same. My friends 617 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: and people I know out in California will tell you this, 618 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: who are conservative. The identity of coastal elites is so 619 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: enmeshed with we are smarter than those red state routes. 620 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: It is, it is so deeply ingrained in their brains 621 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: and for them to now have to sit there and 622 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: go they were right the whole time and we were wrong. 623 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: It just doesn't compute. It's like the system melts down, 624 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, the terminator machine is being caught in between 625 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: the hydraulic presses. Like they just can't handle it. They 626 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: would rather keep their kids in masks for years to 627 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: come than acknowledge that they had no reason to put 628 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: their kids in mask for the first In the first play, 629 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: you got Roger an upstate New York patiently waiting, Hey, Roger, 630 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: what's up? Okay? May of twenty twenty, there is a 631 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: study on the CDC website done by the NIH that 632 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: flatly states that mask, these cloth masks are absolutely worthless. 633 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: Fast forward December twenty one. They don't do a new study. 634 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: They come out and that same CDC website they say, oh, 635 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: we've got new data that when we add to the 636 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: existing data, the PEP value is now positive and it's 637 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: a junk. There is one of the studies that they 638 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: put into this thing in a third world country where 639 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: a village elder is paid to determine who wears a 640 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: mask and who doesn't wear a mask. It's not a 641 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: phase three confirmatory study, let alone controlled. It's just junk. 642 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: Second of all, mister Fauci is a virologist. He treats 643 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: a vial. He hits the beaker with his finger, and 644 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: that's what he knows. And what drives me crazy is 645 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: to have him take over the entire country on how 646 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: to treat people is absolutely lunacy. The National Comprehensive Cancer 647 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: Network has an NCCN guideline for every form of cancer. 648 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: There are seventeen individuals, world renowned specialists in that one 649 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: cancer that vote on the evidence and come up with 650 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: a treatment parameter. Okay, thank you so much, Roger, Roger 651 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: that he brought a lot of info there. We got 652 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: a ton to get into. As we roll on. Roger 653 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: was Hannada Clay Canada truckers. People gave money to them. 654 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: They got in trouble. You want to dive into it, 655 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Love it Fleet, Travis and Buck Sexton 656 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: on the front lines.