1 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Podcast has officially begun. How only if 2 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: only our fans could see us, could see me in 3 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: my current state right now. Yeah, so we're doing things 4 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: a little bit differently here today. Um. You know what's 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: incredible about this episode that you are currently listen to 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: listening to is that we recorded the whole thing like 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: we normally do. We did the intro and then the 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: app um, but our intro here's what's crazy, was so 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: deeply unfunny. What's It's interesting because so often we do 10 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: an intro and then we comment on how unfunny we are, 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: and then we listen back and we're like, wait, are 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: we uh lonely Island. Yeah, we're literally crushing. We're literally 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: making million dollar deals off of this pod. And then 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: this specific when we listened back and we said, you know, 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: we actually were right and that we were not good. 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: We're funny. I mean it really and the spores I 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: didn't actually listen back to you, oh of course not. Okay, great, 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: But that being said, I remember I have the memory 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: of an lfall, and I just could tell that we 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: were so deeply unfunny. I remember being in a one Okay, 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: not to make an excuse, and I'm making excuses. I 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: was in an awful mood. That sounds like an excuse, 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: but okay, go on, UM two, that's actually my only, 24 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: um justification. That's all you need. Hunting. Yes, I'm moody, 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: and it affects my work, which is why was I Yeah, 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: what was your deal? Why couldn't you carry me on 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: your back when were we recording? Oh? You know what 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: it was like because of some weird thing we had 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: planned the episode last minute, and I just like, was 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: not in the mood. Also, here's another way and why 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: I know it's unfunny. Normally, we will um, we will be, 32 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: we will feel like we're not doing a good job, 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: and then we'll look at our guests in the zoom 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: and the guests will be kind of like suppressing laughter 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: or kind of giving us like some positive reinforcement. And 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: this time, and I hope Julie is not offended when 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: I say this, but this time I could see concern 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: in her eyes. I could see real concern and even fears, 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: that sort of feeling that you don't see much anymore 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: now that live comedy is is canceled. But back when 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: live comedy has happened, you'd see that fear in all 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the comedian's eyes when you sort of roll up to 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: the show and be like, oh, no one's here, and 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: yet we're gonna do it. That Remember the feeling I 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: remember like looking knowing your bombing and looking at the 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: audience and and making eye contact with another comedian. Oh 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: don't I know it? I'll you know. My favorite bomb 48 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: was bombing in front of Ray from HBO's Girls. And 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: I went up there and I said, I thought you 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: were gonna say Ray Sonny, no, no, no no, um 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: beloved um Brooklyn fixture Ray from HBOS Girls, Um. And 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: I you know, I see him in the audience and 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: I go, damn, after this, he's gonna be like, hey, 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: let's chill together. And that No. In fact, he was 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: sitting on my coat and me having to tell him 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: to stand up for a moment so I could grab 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: my coat to run out of the room was one 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: of the worst feelings I've ever had. I think I 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: feel like him. So to say is we bombed this 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: intro and it was beautiful. Hey, I feel like he 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: his He probably sits on so many coats, you know, 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: he's so desensitized. He probably sits on so many coats, 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: which which actually I just feel like that is that 64 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: is what he would like. That is what everyone's story 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: with that actor would be, as like, Yeah, he was 66 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: sitting on my coat. So I had to like reardly 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: like tell him to sit up, like stand up a little. 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: He was acting weird. And then also I noticed he 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: was sitting on my coat. But yeah, that intro it'll 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: go down in history as the it'll go with the 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Lost episodes. Yeah, it will not go down in history, 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: and thank God for that. So speaking of I want 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: to say sitting on coats, Oh God, here we go, George. 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: This is being recorded merely. I want to say, twelve 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: hours before it's going to come out, tell me about 76 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: where you are right now. Well, here's the thing I believe. 77 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out and say it. I had ask surgery, 78 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: You've got your you got you had an emergency elective surgery. 79 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I would not say it was the emergency, but I 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: would say it was a procedure, so purely cosmetic or yeah, yeah, 81 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: purely cosmetic. I'm actually getting a second hole inserted. That's incredible, congratulations. 82 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and there are gonna be two buttholes that 83 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: are parallel to one another, but it's not gonna look 84 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: like anyone else. It's so important in this industry to 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: like carve out your niche. Yeah, And I went in 86 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: because I was having some issues, and I said, make 87 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: another hole, but have it have the same issues. Damn, 88 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was. I know it's it's routine surgery, 89 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: which um is fine. But what happened was I said, um, 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you know what, how long is the recovery period for this? 91 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: Because listen, I have things to do. Yeah, um, I'm 92 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: a busy, busy um person. And uh, he said, you know, 93 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: he gave me painkillers and he said, you know a 94 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: lot of people don't even need these, Like honestly, people 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: go into work like the next day often and like 96 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: it's totally fine. Cut to me truly in bed for 97 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: four days straight on percoset, unable to sit up straight. 98 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: And also it's this thing like I can't sit up 99 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: so I have to lie down. But then I also 100 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I am not allowed to drink caffeine, so I effectively 101 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I am not allowed to wake up. Do you know 102 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: what it's like to wake up and then have to 103 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: keep like your only choice being to keep lying in 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: bed without coffee. It's on good morning. Um, please don't 105 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: do surgery on my hole til I've had my coffee. Literally, dang, well, 106 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Um, you know, I'm wishing your whole the best, 107 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the listeners at home will be saying 108 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: some extra prayers for that whole of your I mean, 109 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: it would be nice if I got some fan mail 110 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: about specifically my whole, but nothing yet. So yeah, so 111 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: so so before when I said if you could see me, now, 112 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: what I did mean was that normally I'm sitting at 113 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: my desk when we do these. Right now, I'm only 114 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: comfortable on my couch, and I the only place I 115 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: could put the mic is on a chair, So I'm 116 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: sitting on the couch and bending over. Um uh so 117 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: I'm kind of making a forward bridge shape so that 118 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: i can speak into the mic. Wow. Well, you know, 119 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: in solidarity, I'm sitting on the floor. I'm I'm trying to, 120 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, find find the pain that you feel and 121 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: sort of create it for myself. But instead I feel incredible. 122 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: And I'm back in New York. Did you notice? Oh wait, 123 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, this is New York. Oh wow, 124 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I guess it is New York. Congratulate. I literally wasn't 125 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: even going to invite you to my birthday party because 126 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think you were in New York. That is absurd. 127 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: You all would have been awkward, awkward Turtle. I mean 128 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: that literally would have been awkward Turtle. That would have 129 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: been crazy. But then imagine the episode afterwards of us 130 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: dealing with the aftermath of me not inviting you to 131 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: my birthday. I mean, it's good TV. It really would 132 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: be awkward, awkward turtle if I had a birthday party 133 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: and didn't invite you. And then I was like and 134 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I like, when are were recording next? And you were like, 135 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: I can see that you're at the park. Oh my god, 136 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Wow you're having a core beat. I guess. So, I mean, 137 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I haven't decided yet, and I should it's in a week, 138 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: but I also like, I don't know. I guess. I 139 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: guess having a park thing is is not depressing. I 140 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: think anything else is depressing. Yeah, my birthday was really depressing. 141 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: I think that's actually part of why I was in 142 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: a bad mood last episode, because my birthday was the 143 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: day before and it was just kind of inherently depressing. 144 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: What did you do. I was home right and I 145 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: went to uh swim in the lake, and that was 146 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: what I did, and I finished my book. I thought 147 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: for a second, you like you met you were you 148 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: finished writing a book, and I was like, oh god, 149 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: damn it. Not now, okay, don't brag about finishing writing 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: a book, right. You know I can tell um the 151 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: mental state you're in when you assume I finished writing 152 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: a book. That is such a leap that it really 153 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: is more of a peek into sort of your psyche 154 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: right now. No, you feel like we increasingly you hear 155 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: people saying I finished my book and it means they 156 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: finished writing it, and you're like, shut up, honey, writing 157 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: a book. I'm trying to finished reading one. Yes, yes, uh, unbelievable. 158 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: It's actually hard to read a book too, And people 159 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: don't give you enough credit I should get. I mean 160 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people who write books don't read them. 161 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: And I can tell based on the things I've read. Yeah, 162 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: that's true. Um well, I also want to talk about 163 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: one thing that has been incredible and we always knew 164 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: when we started a podcast is that this would inherently 165 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: shift the culture in huge ways. Yeah. Shift is even 166 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: too narrow of a term, because I think it's it's 167 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: more of a constant Simon says, situation where we say 168 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: something and then culture follows. It's not it's not one shift. 169 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: It's not like, oh that was the cultural reset, and 170 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: then we kept going. It's like every time we open 171 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: our mouths, something happens. It's absurd. At this point, let's 172 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: run through this point. At this point, honestly, find something new. Culture, 173 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: stop copying us. We are just trying to do a 174 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: podcast that we literally we just want to speak. And 175 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: sometimes the things we were, the things we speak into existence, 176 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: we don't even want. We just made a joke. We 177 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: just were just joking, sport. We're literally j k ing 178 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: jk Rowling, jk Rowling. Who we love? Yeah I love 179 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: jk Rowling, um um j K. But we don't. But 180 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: but here are Okay, let's let's take them one by one. 181 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: I do think the first the first time I saw it, Yeah, 182 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: Sarah Highland, Sarah Hiland. We talked about Sarah first of all. 183 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: Not only did we talk about her, but during the 184 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Io Debris episode she came um and actually guested for 185 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: around three minutes. Yeah, she was on the pod. She 186 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: was one of our secret guests are dropping. We didn't 187 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: even include her in the in the episode description, and 188 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: then that week, of all people, she was a guest 189 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: judge on RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars five. And what's 190 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: crazy is I remember you brought up the use of 191 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: the name Sarah Highland and it's kind of another Alice 192 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: in Roman situation where was like, I have no idea, 193 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: you rarely know the names of women they a have 194 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: you have face blind us, but just for women's names. 195 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: But you said it, and I was I I just said, 196 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: just run with it, improv you know. Yesterday, Um, and so, I, 197 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: who did you think I was talking about Spilett? I 198 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: thought you were talking about the mom on Modern Family, 199 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: Julie Bowen. Julie bow famously dated Tucker Carlson. Yeah, like 200 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: in high school or something. No, I think like recently. 201 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: Oh damn weird. I'm not going to fact check that, 202 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: but I'm going to stand by it. Okay, I love 203 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: that fact So we mentioned Sarah Highland and then the 204 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: next week she's guest judging on drag Race. Okay, one, fine, 205 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: that's one. That's okay, that's a coincidence. I'm not I'm not, 206 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, saying anything bold yet let's do let's do 207 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: the third one second, because that's because then we're going 208 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: to end with the most impressive one. Of course. Of course, 209 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: So second thing, who who is the guest judge on 210 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: this week's RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars five? But bb 211 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: rexa who we spoke about, we spoke about extensively in 212 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: the Max Wiard episode and maybe in other episodes probably 213 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: not okay, but I will say, you know who is 214 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: out there talking about bb only so the fact that 215 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: we talked about her and then a few months later 216 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: here she is. It's like, you know, drag Race, I 217 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's there's a not bottleneck effect. What's the 218 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: what's the word I look for. It's like it starts 219 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: at the fringes of like what's considered mainstream gay culture 220 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: starts with the fringes, which is of course podcasts. And 221 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: so when we and there is someone one of the 222 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: producers that RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars is listening to 223 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, Stradio Lab. They are going to the d 224 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: I Y clubs, they are going to the secret basement 225 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: quarantine orgies, all of this very kind of punk rock 226 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: d I y queer culture that that you know, maybe 227 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: it's too sick and dirty and twisted for most audiences. 228 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: They're going there and they're saying, what's on the come up? 229 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: What are gay people on the fringes talking about? And 230 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: sure enough it's Sarah Highland and b b Rexa And 231 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: so you know, at this point it's weird. I mean, okay, 232 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: the b b Rexa thing, It's like, all right, fine, 233 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: it's been a couple of weeks. But Sarah Highland thing 234 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: to talk about her that episode and then have her 235 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: go on drag race clearly on Speed that week. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 236 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: And then number three, and this is a huge one. 237 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: I bravely came out about wanting to watch Chuck and 238 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: Larry have sex in the film. I now pronounce you 239 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Chuck and Larry. I. I gave a call to our 240 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: listeners to please put together some sort of I don't know, 241 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: deep fake sex scene. I don't care. I just want 242 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: to see it. And then it's put on Netflix not 243 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: a week later, and then it rises to the top 244 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: of the charts, and people, the way we're speaking right 245 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: now makes it seem like we're joking. This is not 246 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: a joke. Is Chuck and Larry is like trending on 247 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Netflix and a movie that is by all means should 248 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: be banished. It should it should be illegal. They should 249 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: give the last DVD to you so you can live 250 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: out your little sick and twisted fantasy, and then they 251 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: should banish it from everyone else. Yeah, because I want 252 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: it for good reasons. Yeah, you wanted for porn, but 253 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: then and then it's fine. And then people were posting 254 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: takes that were like it's like like, we don't actually 255 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: need to go into why the movie is problematic, you 256 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. There were people that were like, um, okay, 257 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: this is trending on Netflix. Miss me with that homophobia. Actually, 258 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: we don't need to like analyze it. Everyone's on board 259 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: with the fact that I now pronounce you Chuck in 260 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Larry is not like advancing the cause. I love that. 261 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I think, Um, some people are so dumb sometimes it's 262 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: really crazy. It's like just this movie is this movie 263 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: is so bad that it's yeah, you don't you're not 264 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: doing social justice when you tweet about how it's bad. Yeah, 265 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: that's like tweeting about like not eating shit every single day. 266 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, duh, miss me with that eating ship 267 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: every day, not nutritious, not good for you, just not 268 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: just not good for you, and not ethically sourced unless 269 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: you're making your own. That's right, plug Ben, moment for 270 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: my poop. Wow. Um well yeah, so yeah, where's the thing. 271 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: Have you had any desire to rewatch it now that 272 00:15:53,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: it's on Netflix? Um? I mean I am curious. I 273 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: never saw it. I never did it. No, I always 274 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: wanted to see it. I can't believe after all of this, 275 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: you've never seen it. Yeah, it's the one that got 276 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: away for sure. I I mean, I'm going to watch 277 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: it at some point. Yeah, you have to. I have to. 278 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean I since we've talked about it, I've watched 279 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: the trailer a few times. Okay, so I'm kind of 280 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, I do wonder what our next thing that 281 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: we've predicted will be. Like I'm trying to think back 282 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: to what was our last episode before this, the Udora app. 283 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Do you think they will start um changing the rules 284 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: to sports so that only tall and wide people get metals? 285 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think they already are, Like we're seeing 286 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: that sports are not sustainable in the COVID era, They're 287 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna wait, Yeah, it is true, measuring height and width 288 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: is something you can do via zoom, So like that 289 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: would actually be a good way to replace sports in 290 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: the COVID era. It would be so good. And you know, 291 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: if you could just hide all those facts from the 292 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: internet and then have people sort of guess and and 293 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: then we actually measure them and there could be sort 294 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: of a game about like putting things to scale next 295 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: to them to like give people hints so how tall 296 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: they will be. I think it could be any sports 297 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: are being canceled, and that is our influence. There's our 298 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: fourth and final influence. Um, well, this is very w 299 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: t F how we're doing this where um, you know, 300 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: we recorded this little intro sort of separately, sort of 301 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: taking away that general natural flow. But um, and when 302 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: it ends, we're going to go right into Julia and 303 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be jarring. It's gonna be immediate. Yeah, she'll 304 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: probably a reference things that we said in the normal intro. 305 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: It won't make any sense. And honestly, we're not going 306 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: to cut that out. I don't. I already told Sam, 307 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm still recovering from surgery, so I can't edit a podcast. Yeah, 308 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like trying to do an audition and I'm 309 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: like bad at them, so I don't really have much time. 310 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: I wish we could talk about your audition, but unfortunately signed. Yeah, 311 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: let's just say samancing to a dramatic monologue. Let's just 312 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: say auditions are just my way to give casting directors 313 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of blackmail material every single day. It's 314 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: amazing to auditions for stuff for years and never get 315 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: any of them. It's sort of like, why are we 316 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: doing this? No, you can't ask that. I mean, like, 317 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: please send me more. I love just talking talking it 318 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: for the experience. I love doing things for experience. I 319 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: When I start getting paid for things, I'm gonna quit. 320 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: That's selling out. Uh. Anyway, Um, if anyone wants to 321 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: cast me on High Maintenance or even Search Party, I 322 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: know technically I'm not on those shows, but technically I 323 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: could be a recurring character from season one even Yeah, 324 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: and if anyone wants a cast man HBO's Girls season three, 325 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: want to I'm more than willing. I mean, I'll just 326 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: I'll give my jacket so that Ray can sit on 327 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: it if that's what. If anyone wants to put me, 328 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: I want to be in a season two I think 329 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: maybe season three, the Beach House episode of Girls. I 330 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: think I would fit in really well, that's a great one. 331 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: You can play one of the gay guys. They can 332 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: just edit you in and I would just to play um, 333 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: Carrie Russell's part in the Americans. So if anyone has 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: any connections over at f x X, and you know, 335 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: while we're doing this, if anyone could just edit together 336 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: a quick little um scene of Chuck and Larry having 337 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: sex with each other, I think that would be actually 338 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: really helpful for our nation and they would solve all 339 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: the homophobia of the first edition of the film. Yes, 340 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: and speaking of homophobia, I think that um, I should 341 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: be uh in that show. Um um, I think I 342 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: should play and insecure. And I'm not gonna say any 343 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: more about that. Okay, case closed. Um I guess we 344 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: should start our real podcast now. Okay, well here we go, 345 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: bye and hello. Please give a warm stradio lab Stradio 346 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: LABL Welcome to the one and only Julia Clark. Julia Clark, 347 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Julia Clark, Julia Clara won if we just started saying 348 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: French phrases, but like incorrectly, l my dad does that. 349 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: My dad does that for real. He just says La 350 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: BiblioTech or did not tell you know speaking, I feel 351 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: like I actually read a lot about your dad on Twitter. 352 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: You post about your dad, right, I think your dad 353 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: is straight culture, but he also is Okay, yeah, I 354 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: mean the debate rages on. No, yeah, my dad is. 355 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, two things can be true at the same time. 356 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: I think if we've if we've learned anything, it's that. 357 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: And it is that my dad is in so many 358 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: ways straight culture. UM in that he is a fierce 359 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: devote of New Balance, sneakers and UM living in the 360 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Greater Boston area. I was about to say, and you know, 361 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: municipal government and things like that. But also, um, he 362 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: is obsessed with Bette Midler has seen her live multiple times. UM. 363 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Cry see, he sure does. He calls her Stephanie like 364 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: they are on a first name basis. UM was like 365 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: so moved by her Super Bowl halftime show and her 366 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: documentary Five Foot two. Of course he watched UM. And 367 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: he also watched the Case de Parry document documentary. UM, 368 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: and he cried in the scene where Russell Brand divorces 369 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: are over the phone. Um. I mean that's an incredible 370 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: document that's like, that's like true cinema like, now you 371 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: really woke sanmich shut up? Um, yeah, I mean my 372 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: dad he loves a musical, he loves he just he 373 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: loves all the gay icons. Um I feel does he 374 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: does he ever read your Twitter and be like what 375 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: the hell? Julia, Like, I'm piste off stop tweeting about me. Now. 376 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: My dad is very much of the all press is 377 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: Good press mentality, and he every time I'm like, I 378 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: had a tweet go viral about you about this thing 379 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: that you do that is bad, He's like, ah, what 380 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: a what a funny thing. I love that. At the 381 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: end of our segment, Julia is your dad. The all 382 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: press is good press is how I feel about podcasts. 383 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: It's like, sure, I'm not being funny up top, but 384 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: all podcasts are podcasts. I think. Yeah, all press is 385 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: good press is also the case when you are the 386 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: one putting out the press and no one's picking it 387 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: up right, which, and by extension that means kind of 388 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: just talking in generally is inherently good. Yeah. Making noise, clamoring, 389 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: if you will, it all counts. If you are not 390 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: making noise, you're not paying attention. If there's two things 391 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: we should all be doing it's making noise then taking 392 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: up yes, yes, talk more, listen less, I've got yes, 393 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: thank you, especially in this moment, in this climate. If 394 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: you're not just yelling into the void, you're not doing it. 395 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: You're not an ally. That's three's three white people. Absolutely, 396 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: we're not. If we're not speaking loudly, if we're not 397 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: listening as little as possible, we're not doing our job 398 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: as allies. Sometimes I listen. Sometimes I listen and I'm like, 399 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're getting complacent. Some nonsul pause and 400 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: just sort of reflect, and I'm like, this is the 401 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: problem of rangs. Things you can do is reflect. I 402 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: don't recommend that because when you're reflecting, that time when 403 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: you could be telling someone how they should be doing 404 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: stuff better. Exactly why reflecting it's so? It's so, I 405 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: would say, it's really, I think it's physically. So often 406 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: people get hurt and that I mean literally, like silence 407 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: is violence, Like that's a real phrase. Violence. That's why 408 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: you never can reflect or you know, consider your own 409 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: That's what nobody's talking about. Nobody's talking about, and that 410 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: is perpetuating the psycho This is crazy. We actually cut 411 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: the whole intro, we found something funny. Cut the camera's 412 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: dead ass, wow, Twitter one period I do love. You know, 413 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: there are I have to say, so much of meme 414 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: culture is a stain on society, But there are a 415 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: couple of things, and cut the cameras dead ass is 416 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: one of them that I do really enjoy. Another one 417 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: that I enjoy is when people have post that video 418 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: of Michelle Obama where she's like, um, hey, queen, you 419 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: have done it again, constantly raising the bar for I 420 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: have on multiple occasions just commented that on like a 421 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: female singers tweet. George, you just did my favorite thing, 422 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: which is when you pronounced hard singer finger Yeah, what 423 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: do I have? Singer? Singer? Singer singer? Huh? What about 424 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: finger fingers? You do do pronounce the hard gene finger wow. 425 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: Like to me when someone says, like a great reminder 426 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: that English is my second language and my immigration story 427 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: is universal. I love when people say singer because to 428 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: me it implies like someone in the Midwest who like 429 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: is like going on a reality show to make their 430 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: dreams come true, and they're like, I just always wanted 431 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: to be a singer, and that's um kind of that's 432 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: what I love. Now that's totally not what I'm like, Well, 433 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: is that what you guys think of? No? No, no, 434 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: no no no no no no. Um okay, wait, this 435 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: is feeling like very collegiate right now, this whole the 436 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: pod to me is feeling so college right why, Like 437 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys are like really college like 438 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: right now. I feel like I'm in some sort of 439 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: discussion like would that. Julia did use the phrase municipal government, 440 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's where the tone really changes. I 441 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: think I also identify both of you as um smart. 442 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: That's that's where you're wrong. I do consider Julius, well, 443 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: Julia is someone who knows about the government, which no offense. Julia. 444 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to place any labels on you, 445 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: but that is a very straight quality that you don't know. 446 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: I know, I know it's um. It's actually was on 447 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: my list of of pitches for for the show of 448 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: what my angle of straight culture would be. But yeah, well, 449 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: Julie's one of those people were like, you know, how 450 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: there are certain things we've all agreed, we don't really 451 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: know how they work, and you'll be like a yeah, 452 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: but like no one knows and then Julie would be like, 453 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: I do. It's like that's toxic. Well, Juliet, but you don't. 454 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: You don't see yourself as smart, not in the way 455 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: that George is that I would see someone like George 456 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: as smart. But we I mean, George and I go 457 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: back and forth. That's true about this all the time, 458 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: and it's usually just me conclusively saying it's George George 459 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: conclusively that's good. Okay, Well conclusively I mean yeah, I 460 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: mean yeah. George and I famously worked at the same 461 00:27:53,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: university for an illustrious period of time at very different positions. No, Sam, 462 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: not every university is a Harvard. Um and I was 463 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: a janitor with a secret and and I was played 464 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: by many drivers. Um no. But we had very different positions. 465 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: And I feel like, um yeah, I don't want to 466 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: put George on the spot, but he's very smart. You 467 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: don't know you you're he's very smart, and um I 468 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: constantly I feel just dwarfed by his by his cultural 469 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: references and his ability to well. But I think this 470 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: is a symptom of something else, Juliette. If I were 471 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: to psychoanalyze your which is that I feel like the 472 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: things you know you consider obvious, and then the things 473 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: other people know you consider like huge accomplishments that they 474 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: know them. Okay, I really don't want you to speak truth. 475 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't want you to speak truth into my life 476 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: right now. I'm so sorry. That was the one rule 477 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: you told the truth in your life. And um, I 478 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: feel attacked, and um I will not I will not 479 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: be reflecting on this. Okay, Okay, don't we got dangerously 480 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: close to reflecting? So wait, um, should we maybe going 481 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: to straight shooters? Wait? Would that be crazy? I mean 482 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: it would be a little crazy. What do you think 483 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: I feel? They were like flying through this podcast like 484 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna be done before lunch. I got it. You 485 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: guys just want to like get me out of here. 486 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: But no, no, if anything gets the opposite said, I 487 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: want to get to our topics, so I want to 488 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: get everything else out of the way. Wow. Well, but Sam, 489 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have any other idea, Okay, you're 490 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: attacking me today. I am on trial. You are. Just 491 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: take the debate debate cap off for once second. I 492 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: know it's true. Once it's on, it can't come off. Um, 493 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: what's the like? Debate debate culture is also like a 494 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: huge straight thing. Um, well, because it's like like the 495 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro style where it's like, come debate me, like 496 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: you coward, debate me. Well, it's also just like I 497 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: do think debating is like a useful skill, but when 498 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: you kind of fetishize the act of debating over like 499 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: having an opinion, Like when you're just assigned an opinion 500 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, now debate that, and the the kind 501 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: of like cheapens the idea of opinions. Do you want 502 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: to know something? What? I hate debate like more than 503 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: anything on earth that makes sense, doesn't listen. Ultimately, I 504 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: do too, I think I I theoretically do hate debate 505 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: more than anything else, And I think all it does 506 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: is breed little reactionary dumbasses. But at the same time, 507 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: has it shaped every fiber of my being? Yeah, No, 508 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: I can't stand it. It's like just we should all 509 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: be able to be able to We gotta let's agree, 510 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Let's like find the thing that is true drives let's 511 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: disagree and be okay with that or disagree and that's fine. Yeah, well, 512 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: but isn't that actually like I was never in I mean, 513 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't even think we had a speech and debate 514 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: team in my high school. But isn't that kind of 515 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: the spirit of debate is that, like we disagreed, but 516 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: both sides are worth hearing. I know which I guess 517 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: is equally toxic. That's toxic. It's very both sides culture. Well. 518 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: The thing with both sides is that the two sides 519 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: are either both sides can be good or both sides 520 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: cannot be good. And the issue is determining when the 521 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: first is true and when the second is true, because 522 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: some disagreements are healthy and some are unhealthy. Oh my god, Okay, 523 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm lost. I'm well. I just won that. I mean, 524 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: Burnee Brown order in the court. Renee Brown moved to 525 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: the side, please. I wow. You know, in college, I 526 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: tried to like audition in for like this like society, 527 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: because I was like, I want to be pretentious, like 528 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm smart, I read, and then like I love that 529 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: that being the driving factor, Like wait, I want to 530 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: be pretentious. Where can I audition truly? And they were like, 531 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: we hold him. We hold auditions all week. You like 532 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: come to this like dorm and you like sit down 533 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: at a table with like four other people and you debate. 534 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, who cares like I'll riff. 535 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm smart, let me go. It's like a it's 536 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: like a salon almost, like at and I like sit 537 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: down and I they're like, so what do you do 538 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: with the college? And I'm like, I do improv And 539 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: they're like and they were like, oh so okay, so um, 540 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: like do you actually think like that's an art? Like 541 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: how is that helpful in any way? And I was like, well, 542 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: it's all it's like, you know, it's useful and this, this, this, 543 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: this this, and they're like oh so, but like like 544 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: their debating was so stupid, but it like still made 545 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: me lose immediately, Like I got, oh my god. They 546 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: trying to bait you about whether improv is good or bad? Yeah, 547 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean that is that is the only debate worth having. 548 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: I think that's true, but it didn't even It's also 549 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: like if I and I will never defend improv, but 550 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: like you're a debater and you're trying to tell me 551 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: improv is bad, right, like your whole thing is to 552 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: chill out. Also, I think improv is fine. I just 553 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: think it's the improv industrial complex that is bad. Yeah, 554 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: which I guess you could also say about debate. A 555 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, A lot of people assume that I 556 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: did debate in high school because my personality is bad. 557 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, um, but I could. I mean, I could 558 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: obviously see you doing debate in high school. But I 559 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: also do think too. I mean, in regards to like 560 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: your belief that you are somehow less smart than you are, 561 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: I do think if you had done debate, you would 562 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: have developed more of a narcissist, a narcissistic personality disorder 563 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: in which you would not feel like you were not smart, 564 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: and that alternate universe me would have been so powerful. 565 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: I think we can you would have literally been president. Okay, 566 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: is debate or stand up comedy worse? Because it's stand 567 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: up is more fascist because it's literally just you on 568 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: a microphone talking to an audience. And then debate is 569 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: like neoliberal because it's like two people performing a debate. 570 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: But then like no one implicated in the issues has 571 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: any say in it. Okay, I'm a genius. I'm like 572 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: what Okay, So so here's the thing. It's like, debate 573 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: is mackenzie, stand up is gilllead pharmaceuticals? Right, wait, what's McKenzie? 574 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: It's consulting Okay, I knew that it's insulting firm that 575 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Buddha Judge was in. Okay, cool, cool, cool dude, is 576 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: was on my list of topics that are straight culture. 577 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great topic, do you Okay, yeah, go ahead, 578 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: But do him in Cheston like actually have sex? No? 579 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't think so. I think 580 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: that I they're both so sexless to me in different ways. Yeah, 581 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: like Chase and Julia. You have that iconic joke that 582 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Pete bouddhag Edge thinks the invisible hand of the market 583 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: through the first brick at stone Wall. Thank you, George. Um, yes, 584 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean he is true like he is a straight 585 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: person's dream of a gay person like not and I 586 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't say any straight like straight father, straight like octogenarian father, 587 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: right Like? Okay, back to your dad. Does your dad 588 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: love Pete? No? Who does my I mean my dad 589 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: voted for Bernie. Um but fa but it tooks some convincing. 590 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I like, I have to talk to 591 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: him about this stuff every single day of my life. 592 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: It's a full time job. Yeah, well, mission accomplished. Bernie's president. 593 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: So I think I think, I you know, I pushed 594 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: the revolution over the finish line and we can all agree, 595 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: oh good you uh, you know, there was a there 596 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: was a point where it was like, oh, he's gonna win. 597 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: This is gonna be incredible. I mean, I'll never forget 598 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: when stupid love leagud. Oh my god, not this again, 599 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: and I really thought, Okay, this is it, this is 600 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: the big turning moment in our lives. Yeah. Well, Bernie 601 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: is very much like Tanash in that way and that 602 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: you always think it's about to happen and then it 603 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: never does. I feel bad for her a little. I 604 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: do too, but you know what, I liked that last 605 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: album though, and she's a singer. She's a singer. Do 606 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: you think she could be a good VP? Depends on 607 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: what her debate skills are, Like I guess that's true. 608 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: Is Tnah more debate or improv? I think Donata is 609 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: actually more improv, but the label is more debate, and 610 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: that's why she hasn't been able to break through. I 611 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: think she's like like one of those Instagram choreographers where 612 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, like I like this, but like, what 613 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: are we gonna do with it? Yeah? You're right, that's 614 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: exactly what she is great. Wells later we should play 615 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: a game where we figure out if someone is improv 616 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: or debate. Okay, okay, wait, so Pete is Pete improver 617 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: debate debate in every couple? Probably? Do you think to 618 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: be in a healthy relationship one of the healthy non 619 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: poly relationship, I want to be inclusive. One of the 620 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: people needs to be debate and one needs to be 621 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: improv or can you have improv improv and debate debate? 622 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: I think I think you can have um trying to. 623 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: I think you can have those uh, improv, improv debate 624 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: debate relationships and I'm sure they would be very happy 625 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: with each other, but they would both be insufferable to 626 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: everyone else. Yeah, you need the balance. Yeah, the balance 627 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 1: is key. Wait not to be like one of those 628 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: like who are you fucking pods? But like Julia, do 629 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: you are you dating someone? No? I haven't had sex 630 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: since March and that was our segment. When was the 631 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: last time? Yeah? I wow? I mean, and I do 632 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: think that it's it's violence when any of my friends 633 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: are getting laid um during quarantine and I'm not um, 634 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: but it really is one of the starkest markers of 635 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: inequality in our society, like absolutely. I also, don't you 636 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of secret fucking happening? Yes, 637 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: yes I do, and I want to do some of 638 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: it and I can well listeners, this is a Juliet 639 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: Claire challenge, honestly, Julia, now that both of your roommates 640 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: have moved out, you can literally like invite people over 641 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: in social distance with them other than the fucking Yeah, 642 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: you could like hold interviews and stuff to see who 643 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: you want to suck Now, okay, maybe we'll do a 644 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: reality show. That's what I want. Yeah, that's why I 645 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: came on here. So, Julia or I guess Sam? Are 646 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: you debate or improv in your relationship? I unfortunately think 647 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: I am improv right, yeah you are. But I don't 648 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: know if I would identify Misha as debate, Like is 649 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: there a third category? I know that's the thing, Like 650 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm more debate than he is, but I 651 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't identify him as improv. You think you're more debate 652 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: than he is? Interesting? Do you think you have stronger opinions? 653 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: And does? I think I have stronger opinions? And I 654 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: feel like I'm like always talking really serious to him? 655 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, so I can talk about like who I 656 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: want to have sex with it I can't talk about 657 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: but I'm serious people that know you only from our podcast. 658 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: That is very funny for you to then like stop 659 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: recording and then go to Misha and be like, Misha, 660 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: we need to discuss Wait, so you so you both 661 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: are in relationships? Correct? Yes? Okay, so wow? You know, well, George, 662 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: who are you who? In your relationship? Is more improv 663 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: and more debate. Me. That's the thing. Here's what I'm realizing, honestly, 664 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: more and more is that I actually don't think this 665 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: is a good framework for discussing relationships. It really seemed 666 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: iron clad at the beginning. I don't know. I know 667 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: this is the smartest thing I've ever said. You know 668 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: this is because I do. I do think both me 669 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: and my boyfriend are more are varying levels of debate 670 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: rather than improv Well, we took a theory and we 671 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: tested it in the real world and of it to 672 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: be false. And that is science. I mean, you have 673 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: to take a hypothesis and then sometimes it's false, and 674 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: just because it's false doesn't mean it's not science. If anything, 675 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: more science even more, if you can prove me as false. 676 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: That's science. When you say something and it turns out 677 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: to be false, that's science. In speaking of science, I 678 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: think we should go right into our very scientific first segments. 679 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: Straight shooters, I think we should as well. And Julia, 680 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: as you know you've listened to the pout in the past, 681 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: this is the segment in which we gauge your relationship 682 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: with and complicity and straight culture by asking a series 683 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: of rapid fire questions. You have to pick A or 684 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: B and the one rule is that you can't ask 685 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: us ever any clarifications on how this works. Alright, right? 686 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: Should we start then? Kay? Um, Julia, I need even 687 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: bottles of beer on the wall or one gus, I 688 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: don't know what a geck is. Iconic gets Julia recycling 689 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: or composting? Um, recycling? Okay, Julia, all state, state farm 690 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: or police state. I'll state state farm being the same 691 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: being one of these, Juli, allowed, You're right, You're right, 692 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: I will say, I mean they're both equally violent, but 693 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: I will say all state state farm. Okay, Okay, cancel 694 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: culture or Western culture at large. This is uh, this 695 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: is hard because um, what I didn't reveal at the 696 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: beginning is that my dad is actually Jordan Peterson, and um, 697 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: well that really changes how adorable I find it that 698 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: he likes Um. Oh god, Um, I'll say it Western 699 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: culture at large, toxic. Um, Julia, they're taking the Hobbits 700 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: to Eisenard. Or what's the Elvish word for friend? What's 701 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: the Elvish word for friend? Okay? Okay, a really on 702 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: the nose New Yorker cover or a fashion photo shoot 703 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: that makes you go, okay, we get it. Um, definitely 704 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: really on the nose New Yorker cover. Great love that. 705 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: Um my dad is my best friend? Or my wife 706 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: is my best friend. Uh, my wife is my best friend? Okay. 707 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: Um having a right earring symbolizing homosexuality, or having a 708 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: left earring, which according to my grandmother means you are 709 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: a drug addict. Um, I'm left I'm left handed, so 710 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to say left earring. Okay, wow. And now 711 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: we'll have to rate you on a scale of one 712 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: to one thousand doves, Sam, what do you think? I 713 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: think us right? That's so low. Yeah, that's a good scale. 714 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: But it is a bad score. Okay. Yeah. In some 715 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: ways it's like golf, where the lower score is better, 716 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: but in other ways, it's not like that at all, 717 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: and you really want to get a better score. Golf 718 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: is the ultimate straight culture. Oh my god. I literally like, 719 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: you know how people it's almost like this weird thing 720 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: where like, yes, the obvious reaction of golf is that 721 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: it's bad, but then people are like, actually it can 722 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: be and it's like no, shut up, no, because it 723 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: combines a sport that is terrible with um improper land use, 724 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: which is straight culture. Yeah, and that's your biggest it's 725 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: my biggest, my biggest petieve well, because I'm like golf 726 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: courses seem nice, like I would love to go for 727 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: a stroll around the golf course, but like make it 728 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: a public park. It is just insane that you would 729 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: occupy a park and then be like you're arrested. Like 730 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: that's what golf is to me. Yeah, I can't stop 731 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: getting arrested on golf courses. And that is there should 732 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: there should just be like one golf course in the 733 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: world and that right, like and it's like okay, well 734 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: that's where the people golf on the golf course and 735 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: it can be a destination. It's like Disneyland and how 736 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: fun would that be? Um? So our topic today. Wait, 737 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: but I also in curious as because Julie you said 738 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: you kind of like we're thinking of various different topics. 739 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: I'd love to know what your short list was. Okay, 740 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: so my short list um as I said, Pete Buddha 741 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: Jedge at the top, um having having acne, Auntie Annie's 742 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: pretzels um, the concept, the concept of shame. Oh yeah, 743 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: and the two thou eight financial crisis. Huh w. I 744 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 1: mean I love that financial crisis. I think that's think 745 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: we're in the place right now where that's something we 746 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: can discuss. You know, you can also think of that 747 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 1: as like the two eight financial crisis parentheses Paul Krugman, Right, yeah, God, 748 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: I used to really think it's crazy that he's still 749 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: going to, isn't he? Though, I'm sorry to be this 750 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: person who is that. He's an economist that like writes 751 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: um for the New York he like writes opinion columns 752 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: for the New York Times, right, and he's and he's like, 753 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: he's wrong, He's wrong about a lot. He's wrong about 754 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: a lot. But also be like the syllabus before doing this, 755 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: damn po. I mean, you know how like there's a 756 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: I feel like, um, some of this happened in thousand 757 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: and eight, and then some of us happen and you know, 758 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen. But there's like a general 759 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: reckoning of people that were right that it turns out 760 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: we're wrong. I feel like Paul Kergman is like the 761 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: the perfect example. And Paul Kergman, JK. Rowling and other example. 762 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: And Nate Silver. Yeah, Nate Silver version. They keep asking 763 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: him for his opinion on stuff though, God, he's a 764 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 1: Nates Silver. It's like, how obsessed are you with numbers? 765 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: Natesilver also is gay? Right? Yeah? I remember when I 766 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: found Game and I was like, go off. I didn't 767 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: know that you didn't. Wait, Julia, you're the last person 768 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: to people are gay. Did you think George was straight 769 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: when you him in the past? Um? No, m interesting, 770 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: drag him straight. There's no way around this. Juliet, you 771 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: were definitely wearing boat shooes the first time I met you. 772 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, I look, you know, 773 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: I've I've done a note to Appology about my my 774 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: history of wearing boat shoes. Um, which is again why 775 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm an expert on straight culture. And that's why you're 776 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: here in fact, we Sam and I did the investigative 777 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: work and released the photo of you wearing boat shootes 778 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: and then you know, listen, I understand it was different 779 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: back then. I mean, this is kind of like it 780 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: was a different time and cultural boat shoes didn't have 781 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: the um I didn't have the connotations they have today. 782 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, you should have 783 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: known better. Yeah, Ultimately, something that um, I've had to 784 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time praying about and um and 785 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: again it will not be reflecting on it, but I 786 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: will continue to post very defensive subtweets about it. Good. 787 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: I have something that I feel like it's important to 788 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: admit at this point in the park. To admit it, 789 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: I sort of took part in roughly thirteen fourteen the 790 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: wearing of sort of hipster ironic boat shoes. And I 791 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: know now that like hipster ironic boat shoes are still 792 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: boat shoes and it's never okay, But I did it, 793 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: and I've I've learned so much since then, and like 794 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't have them anymore, Sam, ironic boat shoes are 795 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: not like ironic biphobia. They're serious, But you know what 796 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: I do think that's also like, remember the era of 797 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean to me, this is Vampire Weekend. Like, no, 798 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: I love that era. Oh, I mean, listen, they're maybe 799 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: Julius's favorite. Okay, unfortunately, yes they are my favorite. I 800 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: still I'm yeah, I have seen them. I have seen 801 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: them live like four times. I think. I yes, that 802 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: is the most embarrassing thing about me is and when 803 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: I was, like when I was in college, I dressed 804 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: up to go to the concert. When I was nineteen 805 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: with my friend Susie, we went to shout out to Susie. 806 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to Susie. We went to the Merryweather Pavilion 807 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, Maryland, and um, yeah, we we dressed up 808 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: in our our preppious looks and um went to the 809 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 1: Vampire Weekend concert and this guess what, It's the only 810 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: place that I feel safe dancing as a person with 811 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: no rhythm. Well, and I know this is probably you're 812 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 1: probably heating up with shame right now, but I want 813 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: to console you by saying that liking anything is embarrassing. Yes, 814 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: that's true. When people like stuff at all, it's oh, 815 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 1: it's sad. It's I forget about that too often, and 816 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: that's on me. Yeah. No, the most The healthiest way 817 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: to go about living your life is to just kind 818 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: of have an air of complete dismissal at anyone making 819 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: an effort. I think that's so healthy and important, especially 820 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: right now. Yea, when someone like attempts something, you have 821 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: to shame them into silence. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So now 822 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: that we've gotten that out of the way, should we 823 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: do our topic? Oh well, well, I thought the topic 824 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: that I settled on is the suburbs, because suburbs. I 825 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: love Arcade Fire. Yes, I know, I was going to say, 826 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: you can take that literally or you can take it 827 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: as the two studio album by Arcade Fire. Do you 828 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: remember like first seeing Arcade Fire and being like, well, 829 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: this is the future. Yes, the future is literally just 830 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: kind of like various people. I mean it's literally like 831 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: seventeen people on the stage. One of them is like 832 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: hop scotch, you know. One of those are jumping rope, 833 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: one of them is like banging on a helmet. One 834 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: of them is just kind of like snapping their fingers. 835 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 1: I mean, sprawl to mountains, beyond mountains, put it, put 836 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: it on the playlist. I'm in. But yes, I am 837 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: an expert on the actual suburbs. Says I. Yeah, well, 838 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: we've all at at various points in our lives lived 839 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: in the suburb. I mean when I was when my 840 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: family is still living in the United States, we lived 841 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: in suburban New Jersey. Truly, like our garage door, my 842 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: parents like we're foreign and they didn't know. Kind of 843 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: like this is. I don't want to drag them too much, 844 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: but you know, a suburban house has like a garage 845 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: door that's usually just like plain white, even though the 846 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 1: house can be like a fun color like a blue 847 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: or a pink or something of course, right, So we 848 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: moved into our house and my parents decided to painted 849 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: yellow and green, and normally you would leave the garage 850 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: door white, but instead the garage door was also painted 851 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: green with yellow squares like the squares are painted yellow. 852 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: And it was the only house in the entire street 853 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: that did not have a white garage door. Were you embarrassed? 854 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: Were you? Did you notice that it was different? Were you? 855 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it was that's the thing. It was, Um, 856 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: it really did stick out. What was your suburb experience 857 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: like now that I've shared that very vulnerable part of 858 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: my Julia at the same time, now o, um so, okay, 859 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in a suburb of Boston, which again 860 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 1: is you know, maybe the straightest of of suburbs. I 861 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: mean it's true that, you know, it's weird that we've 862 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: had an episode about Denver but not Boston. Yeah, I 863 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: mean I could have I could have also done Boston. 864 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 1: I am you know, I'm toxic enough to represent the city, 865 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: I think, Um, but yeah, my my hometown is eleven 866 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 1: thousand people. It's like white and um it is the 867 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: foundation of um my my dark years in vote Choose, 868 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know I rode crew. Oh my god, 869 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: I WHOA. The sport of the town was lacrosse. Um, 870 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: really dark really I I've talked about this publicly before, 871 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: but I one of the like lacrosse was such a 872 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: traumatic thing because it really was one of those things 873 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: where I was like, as soon as I thought I 874 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: understood American culture, like I spent a lot of like 875 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: the first years living like because we moved here initially 876 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: when I was in first grade, and I spent a 877 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 1: lot of the first years like understanding what was going on. 878 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: And then I was like, thankfully, you know, young enough 879 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: where I didn't I learned English, didn't have an accent, 880 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. But then like there will there 881 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: would be some like wild cards that would come my way, 882 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: and lacrosse was one of them where I was like 883 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: a new thing about lacrosse. Now, like I'm already, like, 884 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, twelve years old. I've literally learned everything, Like 885 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: I have a Spider Man poster in my room, and 886 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: I know who Derek Jeter is, and now you need 887 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: me to learn about lacrosse. Like it just seemed like 888 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: it seemed like I had done so much work and 889 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: it's like just further proof that I do not belong here. Sam, 890 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: did you play lacrosse? I did not. I lived in 891 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: like more rural um towns, um so I didn't like 892 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 1: we didn't have like the fancy sports like lacrosse where 893 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 1: in the towns where I lived. But I remember lacrosse 894 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 1: is mostly it is at it's it's peak of popularity 895 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: in the Northeast, specifically New England. Totally. Yeah, it's not. 896 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what else I feel about things like that. 897 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: It's like I feel like I left that behind, you know, 898 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: when I obviously when we like left America, and then 899 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: in my mind, lacrosse as a concept stop in two 900 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: thousand five, and sometimes I remember that it exists, and 901 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's so crazy. It's so vintage that we're 902 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: still doing this, you know. I I wear like I 903 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: thought like maybe like two years ago, maybe three years ago, 904 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: I was like, it's hot to have like a dumb 905 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: lacrosse penny and wear that to the beach. And I 906 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: still think it is hot, but I also now think 907 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: it's a little like, wait, this like looks too sincere, 908 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,399 Speaker 1: Like people just think I played lacrosse, Like I'm not 909 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: like edgy enough to sell the Well, it's it's because 910 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're so conventionally attractive that people look 911 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 1: at you when they say there's a there's a formal 912 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: lacrosse player, right, and and that's just not me, you know. 913 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: And that's and that's not that's like through no fall 914 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: of your own. That's just well, I get so judged 915 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: all the time by all these people. They say, oh, 916 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: you're so handsome and and and that that hurts because 917 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 1: it's on the inside, I'm so different, I'm so unique, 918 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: and I'm so Brooklyn and alternative. But on the outside, 919 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's the problem Megan Fox had. I'm literally 920 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: the Megan Fox of alternative, the Megan Fox of alternative comedy, 921 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: and that, honestly, I have to say sorry, but it 922 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: does not bode well for you. Ye damn well, that 923 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean I can feel it. I 924 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: can feel that bad space coming. I'm not going to 925 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: be I'm obviously not the first person to say this, 926 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: but yes, George is your Michael Bay Well, that's right. 927 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: That is in that I'm giving you this incredible opportunity, 928 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: and yet um, as soon as it's over, your career 929 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: is over. And also and also like obviously the verbal abuse, 930 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: the making you you know why car in a bikini, etcetera, etcetera. 931 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's okay. I needed the money. Um um My. 932 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: I had friends that lived in the northern suburbs of 933 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: Chicago that I like kind of lived with for like 934 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: a summer or two, and it was the most fun 935 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: I've ever had in my whole life. And I was like, damn, Like, 936 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: fancy suburbs really are it? Like everyone has a giant 937 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: house with a nice ass finished basement, their parents are 938 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: nowhere to be found, and when they are around, they're 939 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: bringing home like fancy takeout. Um I had. I had 940 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: Hummus for the first time, it was like being abroad. 941 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I will say the idea of a basement 942 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: even now saying that I can feel my muscles relaxed. 943 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything more comforting than being like 944 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the basement basically sitting in the bean bag 945 00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: chair with one of those things like everything else, you know, 946 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: there's such a sense of stress about like, uh, you know, 947 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: things being clean and and things matching, and like the 948 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: and the decor and stuff, and then the basement anything goes. 949 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: Anything else you can have. You can have a pile 950 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: of cardboard boxes, you can have couches that don't match. 951 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: You can have just like a blanket that has, you know, 952 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: a disease on it. It doesn't matter. I you know, 953 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm I really don't want anyone to think that I'm 954 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: uh kind of ironically expressing my love for the suburbs. 955 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: I genuinely love everything about it. I it is, you know, 956 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: every time I go back, it's pure xan X. It's 957 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: just I just take me to the Whole Foods in Debtham, Massachusetts, 958 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: and I will pass out. I will have and I 959 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: have and I will do it again. You've been hospitalized 960 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: many times, how many times in the den body relax. Um, 961 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: the Denim Massachusetts Whole Foods. Um, your life is just 962 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: you begging to go to Whole Foods, getting there and 963 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: passing out and then waking up in a hospital and 964 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: being like, should we get a Whole Foods. I've done 965 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: it again. That's like a groundhogs day. God did I 966 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: pass out in the denim Whole Foods again? Um? Yeah, 967 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: I love Oh God, I love a gazebo. Just okay, 968 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: a gazebo. There's really nothing like inject a gazebo into 969 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: my veins. But I think what people don't talk about 970 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: is I think gazebos are violently queer. Oh yeah, they're 971 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: They're not for anything. I mean, that's that's kind of 972 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: like the part of my sexuality that I haven't explored yet. 973 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: And I again, I don't plan to. I don't plan 974 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: to reflect. But that's just going to be like a 975 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: locked door that I never really visit. No, yeah, you gazebo. 976 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: We all have our internal gazebo, which is a part 977 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: of us that you don't want to go. Just like 978 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: every suburb is straight, but then there's a gazebo and 979 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,959 Speaker 1: it's like is this suburb by Yeah right, we also 980 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: didn't we didn't have a finished basement. Um, we did 981 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: have some really we still to this day my parents 982 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: house has like really weird, kind of scary murals on 983 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: the walls of the basement that were there before they 984 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: bought the house. And um, there's one of It's like 985 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: it's all these cartoon characters. It's really it's like the 986 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Underdog and Winnie the Pooh and um Snoopy and Woodstock 987 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: from the Peanuts. It's but they are like horrifyingly big 988 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: and my parents just never painted over it. I don't know, 989 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, our basement is not finished and it's very Um. 990 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I still get scared sometimes when I go home and 991 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I have to go down in the basement and I'm 992 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: the only one in the was still awake. I do, 993 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: um run up the stairs really quickly to make sure 994 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: that basement is kind of the opposite of the whole foods, right, 995 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: so to make sure no one grabs my feet, you know. 996 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Seeing you right now, I'm like, wait, you would be incredible, 997 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: as like the heroine in a horror film like you 998 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: running away from like a killer would be great. Thank you. Yeah, 999 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: Julia have you considered running away from a Killer. It's 1000 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 1: actually my most popular recurring dream. But yeah, wait, I 1001 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: want to just bring in something to the conversation, which 1002 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: is that, for me, you can't separate the suburbs from 1003 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: like media depictions of the suburbs like American beauty. Sure, sure, sure, sure, 1004 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: like the inherent Like do you remember when it was 1005 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: considered very radical and subversive to like point out the 1006 01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: inherent eerieness of the suburbs, like these people seem happy, 1007 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: but they're not. Yeah, I mean, honestly, to bring it 1008 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: back to Arcade Fire, I liked that album, but when 1009 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: it came out, like hearing the premise is like, well 1010 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: it's about the suburbs, I was like cool, like hot take. Um, 1011 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,919 Speaker 1: But then I was like, okay, I love it. I yeah, 1012 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I very earnestly loved it and thought it was a 1013 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: hot take. Yeah, I would honestly say that I have 1014 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: to agree. Yeah. So I think our Kaide Fire though, 1015 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: is one of those bands were like, um, kind of 1016 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: like al J where you listen to it and you're like, 1017 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm one of the few people that 1018 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: gets this, and then you go to their concert and 1019 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: it's like Okay, well you know hello Karen. Yeah, yeah, sorry, 1020 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I hate that I said Karen. I didn't mean it 1021 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: in like the meme sense. I just like was trying 1022 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: to think of a name. So I don't mean Fara 1023 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: our friend. I do mean far our friend. Okay, yeah, 1024 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Fara girl. Sorry you see you? What the next arcade 1025 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: fire show? Um? Yeah, I mean Georgie and I have 1026 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 1: talked about this, but I am so exhausted by the Karen. 1027 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: It's so hack. Everyone needs to stop. How do we 1028 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: feel about the Karen name? How do we feel about 1029 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: the Karen? And listen, I'm not gonna it is literally 1030 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,919 Speaker 1: it came from as you said, Julia, it came from 1031 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: like a Dane Cook joke. I also feel like that 1032 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 1: it's hate speech, and I'm like, no, it's not hate speech. 1033 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: It's just at hack. It's Yeah. Also, you can call 1034 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: someone who's like violent, like call them like something worse. Yeah, 1035 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the the woman who like tried to get the man 1036 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: in Central Park arrested and possibly killed is not a Karen. 1037 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: She is worse than that. And I can't think of 1038 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: a better name. Yeah, what's the better name? I mean, 1039 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: we're like that couple that that couple that were like 1040 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: holding guns in their yard and people are like, well, 1041 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: this is the ultimate Karen, and it's like, no, this 1042 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: is a yeah, like like Karen is like can I 1043 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: talk to your manager? Karen is not like I'm going 1044 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: to kill approach like that is like something. Karen is 1045 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: literally can I talk to your manager? Yes, Karen is 1046 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: not like death to Antifa. Wait, it's such a Karen 1047 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: move to be um, you know fascist nic Trump is 1048 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 1: the ultimate Karen. Oh my god, you actually should twet 1049 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: that and see what happened as an experiment, No, because 1050 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: so many people would earnestly retweet that and be like 1051 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: the ultimate take Oh my god, yes, sort of. I 1052 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: do think Internet humor is pretty bad. Internet humor is 1053 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: definitely dead. But then it's like, what's it being replaced by? TikTok? TikTok? 1054 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Is the Internet humor? I mean, I know, but you 1055 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Is the Twitter brand of Internet 1056 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: humor being replaced by just like TikTok? Well, you know, 1057 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: this is the issue is that the Internet is the 1058 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: only place we can go now, so there is no 1059 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: more in person humor. Really, well, now that's true, which 1060 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,919 Speaker 1: is why now there literally is no good humor. Yeah, 1061 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: exactly right, right, right right, Well except for this incredible 1062 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: and award winning podcast. Yes, that's right, Peabody Award winning 1063 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: and ye Pulitzer and then what's the yeah Mark Twain 1064 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: Award And I mean, I don't know if you listen 1065 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 1: to this episode, Julia, but Sam and I have talked 1066 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: about how we won the Presidential Medal of Freedom for 1067 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: Best New Artists in Podcasting. Yes, of course during the 1068 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: Obama administration. Yes, yes, and you know, but we were 1069 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: overshadowed because it was the same ceremony that he gave 1070 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: it to Ellen, right who no notes on Ellen? Perfect? No, No, 1071 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean incredible great, too great to work with, which 1072 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: we're going to really big help for us. Mentor Yeah, oh, 1073 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean a mentor. I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't 1074 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: even say family at this point, Yeah, I mean I 1075 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: call her mom. But then yeah, right, what is the 1076 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: peak suburban decor for you? Oh? Um? Well, okay, So 1077 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 1: a dining room that you only use like twice a year, yes, 1078 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: in the living room that you only sit in once 1079 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: a year. The thing is so true, like how it's 1080 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: like what is going on in your head where you're 1081 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: like Okay, we can only use this room that literally 1082 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: has tables in a chair when the Prime Minister comes over. Okay, 1083 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: would you say that obsession with like having things be 1084 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: like distinguishing between casual and formal. People are obsessed with 1085 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the thing, which I mean, yeah, you say that, but 1086 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 1: I literally would cut my wrist right open and bleed 1087 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: out to in order to have a dining room in 1088 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: my life. Um. I think I love the premise of 1089 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: a dining room actually and having like a special room, 1090 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: but I think the problem is because they use it 1091 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: so rarely. The furniture is always really outdated and looks bad, 1092 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 1: and it's like when you're going into people's dining rooms, 1093 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: they're like, we've never eaten here, and it's like, yeah, 1094 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: because the furniture is ugly. Yeah. I mean it does 1095 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: go back to one of the things that really Um, 1096 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like a foundational opposition. I have to improper land 1097 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: use Um. Oh my god, that's so true. It's like 1098 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: it starts at home. Charity. Charity starts at home. In 1099 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 1: proper land, you starts at home. I mean, looking, having 1100 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 1: a dining room is a slippery slope to golf course. Yes, 1101 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: that's actually very true. Yea, thanks, Oh my god, well, 1102 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,719 Speaker 1: you know we would you remiss. Um. I feel we've 1103 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,800 Speaker 1: put golf on blast so much, and I just I 1104 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, I do hope to both sides this argument. 1105 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: You eventually get comment from JP McDade, who is the 1106 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: the steward of of golf. Um, he's a straight, straight 1107 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: friend of the pod. JP McDade one of the tallest 1108 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: people I've ever made. Yeah. Yeah, he is truly up 1109 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: there as as far as height goes. He is one 1110 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 1: of the tallest. Um. He does have a toxic devotion 1111 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: to golf in a way that um, well, here's the 1112 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: thing with JP mcdaide. He did used to work in finance. 1113 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: That's true. I mean there's yeah, we had the golf 1114 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 1: he had to know. Yeah, to stay alive, Um, to 1115 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 1: feel safe, I mean yeah. I mean they're the toxicity 1116 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: of J. P McDade knows no depths. I think he's 1117 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: banned from this podcast. We can all agree about that. 1118 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: He keeps asking you to do it. He says straight culture. 1119 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 1: I know about that, and I say, JP, first of all, 1120 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: stop being so tall. You know, Tall Girl on Netflix 1121 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: is actually about JP mcdad ghost wrote it. He was 1122 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: like I want to write about how difficult it is 1123 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: to be a tall man, but people like only like 1124 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,639 Speaker 1: women's stories now because of the PC Left. So I'm 1125 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna make a tall girl. And I read the Tall 1126 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Man script and it was so really moving. Yeah yeah, 1127 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 1: and so I was actually really happy when that got me. 1128 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 1: But once again, you know, the woe Left just rot 1129 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: ruins another another creative genius all of Hollywood. You know 1130 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: what they do. They buy a script and then they 1131 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: change all the genders to face the gender flipped this 1132 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: there's a there. People are rabid with gender flipping. It's 1133 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: like it's like when when Cheryl Crowe covered Sweet Child 1134 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: of Mine and she gender flipped it and it was 1135 01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:03,879 Speaker 1: wrong that Cheryl Crowe fall back. You are on blast. 1136 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 1: You are on blast. Cheryl crow is not welcome on 1137 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: this podcast. I know everyone already made fun of Tall 1138 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Girl the movie, but imagine how much funnier it would 1139 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,680 Speaker 1: be if it were a movie called Tall Guy. That's funny. 1140 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying. They took JP's idea 1141 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: and they ruined it tall Guy, tall man, and that's 1142 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 1: like strife. I love that. And this is when Jenji 1143 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: Cohan met with JP and said, listen, I like what 1144 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,559 Speaker 1: you're doing, but I'm gonna need this to be a girl. 1145 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 1: You had to say yes, he had otherwise should be 1146 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 1: canceled by the radical left. The radical left Jenji Cohan 1147 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: goes around canceling people for not for writing scripts about men, 1148 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 1: and I've had enough of it. You know, when we 1149 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,799 Speaker 1: made up lies and deceits around Charlie Barday, I thought, okay, 1150 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: this is fine. You know, he's my friend making up 1151 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 1: lies and you know, slandering JP mcdate on the pod. 1152 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't know him that well and I cannot help 1153 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: but feel ours is going to get sued by JP lawyer. Yeah. 1154 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he looks like he would be ligitious, 1155 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 1: but he ultimately is not. He's just constantly um eating 1156 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: sodium and tweeting him. That's okay, cool. I mean I'm 1157 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 1: ready for him to sue me. So JP, have your 1158 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 1: lawyer call my JP please just sue us. Any press 1159 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 1: is good press at this. I've actually said I really 1160 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: want to get sued because I think the press would 1161 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 1: be amazing. I think the community would really rally behind me, 1162 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: and I think it would be extremely helpful for my UM. Well, 1163 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. You know how people um 1164 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: try to kind of like you know, trip so they 1165 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 1: can sue a company for having like unsafe stairs or whatever. Yeah. 1166 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 1: Um like yes, like I want the opposite of that 1167 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: when someone sues me for publicity. Yeah. The the Jackass 1168 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: films were just them trying to be able to sue 1169 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 1: public spaces. That was their whole goal, and they succeeded, 1170 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,799 Speaker 1: and they succeeded. That's why, and that's why this episode 1171 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: we're going to put in all of the Arcade Fires 1172 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 1: music every time we mentioned them, hoping that they'll sue us, um, 1173 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: so that we can get some really incredible press, not 1174 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 1: just clips like the full full tracks, full song. We'll 1175 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: actually just have. The episode will be first us talking 1176 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,759 Speaker 1: and then when that's over, we will play the album 1177 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: from beginning to end and then release it and it 1178 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: will be like two hours long. I think that's ultimately 1179 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: what people want. Oh yeah, no, definitely, our fans have 1180 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 1: been begging for it. Um. Okay, Sam, is it like time? Yeah? 1181 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,679 Speaker 1: Can I ask one more question? Yeah? Has this podcast 1182 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 1: been good? Yes? Yeah, Julia? What do you think? I 1183 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 1: love it? I I've gone on a spiritual journey. I 1184 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 1: think Um, you know, both of you are the first 1185 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 1: people I've spoken to in days. Um, so there was 1186 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: like a lot to unpack there. And then obviously, you know, 1187 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: talked about my father. So yeah, I did come in 1188 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: hot with that, you know what made me do that? So, Julia, 1189 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: we're really sorry we asked you about your father, especially 1190 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,520 Speaker 1: first up, I didn't even warm up. That was really right, Okay, 1191 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 1: it's okay, Um, yeah, anything else we should apologize for? Um, 1192 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm you know, the first segment. What should we apologize for? 1193 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's so much that that you should apologize for. Um, 1194 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 1: I also need an apology, George, when you assumed I 1195 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: played the cross that was so hurtful something I deal 1196 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 1: with every single day. You know, I've gone to meetings 1197 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 1: where they've been like, you play lacrosse, right, and I'd 1198 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 1: be like, no, Literally, what's weird is that there are 1199 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: people who have a condition known as lacrosse face and 1200 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 1: you don't even have that but you. But it's more 1201 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 1: of an aura that maybe in a in a previous 1202 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 1: life you did play lacrosse, because as we know, I mean, 1203 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: you really did live a whole life as a straight 1204 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 1: man before coming out. Well and we all did in 1205 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 1: some ways, did you really, Oh, only a little one, 1206 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 1: just a little life, A little life. A little life 1207 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 1: is about Sam, about not playing lacrosse. I just mean 1208 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 1: like you were like sporty. I was sporty. I was 1209 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 1: a jock. You were a jock and like, uh, but 1210 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: only like non contact sports, you know, the ones where 1211 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,679 Speaker 1: I could be alone. And do you like cross country? 1212 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: I was across country. I was a track I was 1213 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: a swimming Okay, I think we should maybe do our 1214 01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: final segment. Now, do you have one? UM, give me 1215 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: like one second, let's describe what the final segment. Yeah, 1216 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the final segment is called shoutouts, and it's where we 1217 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 1: um shout out to something that we like in the 1218 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: spirit of kind of like a TRL shout out on MTV. 1219 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:21,440 Speaker 1: UM talking to our listeners and and just addressing them directly. UM, 1220 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 1: do I have to go first? No? No, no, no 1221 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: no no, no, we're we should go first, and we 1222 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: are both blanking on a topic. I'm out of things 1223 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 1: to say. I can try to go. Oh, I have one, Okay, 1224 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,680 Speaker 1: you go, Okay, Hey, listeners, it's me. I would like 1225 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 1: to give a quick shout out to tapes cookies that's right. 1226 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,600 Speaker 1: It's those cookies that you see at every bodega and 1227 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: every supermarketing. You say, they can't be that good, they're everywhere. 1228 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: Well guess what, bitch, they are that good. And even 1229 01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,120 Speaker 1: if you like chewy cookies and you say, I don't this, 1230 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: these are crunchy. I mean, is this a cracker with 1231 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: chocolate chips? What's going on here? You will have a 1232 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 1: bite and you will say, actually, it's pretty good. And 1233 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 1: in fact, do you think it's you know, you think 1234 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 1: you get the chocolate chip one chocolate chip ones, and um, 1235 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: you like them, and you say, well, this is the 1236 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: end of this narrative. No, there's white chocolate hazel, not 1237 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: once or no white chocolate macadamia that one, which I 1238 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 1: know doesn't sound a feeling, but she was very good. 1239 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 1: And also I have had a full pack of them 1240 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 1: in the last four days. Whoo whoo, Um, I have 1241 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: one this kind of um related to a previous one. Okay, 1242 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 1: what's up, listeners, UM, I just want to give a 1243 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: quick chat out to that feeling when you finished a book. 1244 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,879 Speaker 1: That's right. Everyone said it wasn't possible, but I finished 1245 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:52,160 Speaker 1: a book by Ursula Kay Lugwin worrying for the most part, 1246 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 1: but by the end it was actually kind of good. 1247 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 1: And then at the very it didn't quite give me 1248 01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 1: the rush I wanted, but I still was glad I 1249 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 1: read it in the end. And now I am done 1250 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 1: and my check is in the mail from the government 1251 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 1: because I finished. I'm getting my trophy and it's gonna 1252 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,679 Speaker 1: feel awesome. I love to read. I'm going to start 1253 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 1: a new book in a month or two x O XO, 1254 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: saying wow, I'm so proud of that. Yeah, I actually 1255 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 1: forgot I think when we started this podcast, I genuinely 1256 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: was brain dead, um, and not in like a funny way, 1257 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 1: like I like, I really couldn't think of anything that 1258 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 1: had happened to me. And I was also in a 1259 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 1: bad mood, and I couldn't really explain why because it's 1260 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 1: not because of anything. Yeah, I'm also in a bad 1261 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually in a very bad mood today. And I 1262 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 1: also have had like insane dry mouth like I will 1263 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 1: literally I'm like truly pouring water down my gullet and 1264 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: then as soon as it leaves the immediate palette, I 1265 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: get dry again. I keep thinking I have COVID again. 1266 01:18:55,439 --> 01:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing that I'm at I got tested again yesterday 1267 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 1: because I was like, I feel it, and then I'm like, 1268 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 1: now I feel fine. I feel stupid for getting tested. 1269 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 1: But what I'm getting a COVID test on Monday. I 1270 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 1: literally this is my third time getting one, and I 1271 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:16,679 Speaker 1: like yelled the whole time. I'm getting worse at it. Yeah, Okay, 1272 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 1: I think I'm ready. Okay, Julia, what's up? Listeners? I 1273 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: just want to give a quick shout out to George's 1274 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:28,559 Speaker 1: dry mouth. He is literally pouring water down gullet and 1275 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,640 Speaker 1: there's nothing that can say his incessant dry mouth. I 1276 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 1: also want to give a quick shout out once again 1277 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,680 Speaker 1: to the Whole Foods and Dead of Massachusetts. It is spacious, 1278 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 1: the employees are friendly, it's well organized. Um I like 1279 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: to go there with my mom and um, Finally, to 1280 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 1: top it all off, I really just wanna, um give 1281 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: give love and praise and respect to going outside, which 1282 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 1: is something that you forget about that you just don't 1283 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: do and people talk about. You're not talking about it, 1284 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 1: You're not hearing the mainstream media say anything. And then 1285 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 1: you go outside again and you and that's the end 1286 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 1: of that. Um. Also, I want to give a quick 1287 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:23,760 Speaker 1: shout out to Julia's friend, Uh, Susie, you don't know you, 1288 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 1: but you were so influential on our girl right here 1289 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 1: and we can absolutely feel that. And I want to 1290 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to Julia having three different 1291 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,120 Speaker 1: shout outs inside her shadow. That's a very Julia thing 1292 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,640 Speaker 1: to do. I want to give a shout out to 1293 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Stradio Lab for having more shout outs than we've ever 1294 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 1: had before. There's a shout out heavy episode and that 1295 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,320 Speaker 1: is powerful and beautiful. Wow. And I want to give 1296 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 1: a shout out to Sam for really kicking us off 1297 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: with a really great shout out that made us feel 1298 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: safe enough to then each do another three shout outs. 1299 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to George 1300 01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,640 Speaker 1: for actually going first because I'm like god. I do 1301 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,200 Speaker 1: also want to give a quick shout out to me 1302 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,680 Speaker 1: for still doing this segment despite the fact that as 1303 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 1: as fans might not know. Every single time we record 1304 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 1: and then text Sam can we please stop doing shadows 1305 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 1: because I don't like them? And then he says, no, 1306 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,679 Speaker 1: I think they're fun, and I agree with that they 1307 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 1: are fun. If you don't think they're fun, debate me, bitch. Wow. 1308 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I guess we know who's debated who's prob in our relationship. 1309 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Well everyone, thank you for listening, and don't forget to 1310 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,719 Speaker 1: debate someone today. Uh yeah, debate the ones you love. 1311 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 1: It's the only way to start fights when things are 1312 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 1: going well. Start a fight, Start a fight, Okay By